How did New York recover from the 70s? I have some family that lived over there during the crack epidemic...

How did New York recover from the 70s? I have some family that lived over there during the crack epidemic. They basically said that half the city was a no go zone filled with pimps, gangs and crazed drug addicts. The city seems to have greatly improved over the last few decades, so what happened?

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Giuliuani. That's what my dad, a brown Dominican who used to go there a lot during the 80's and 90's, told me anyway.

Donald Trump and Rudi Guliani

You know how liberals talk about the failed policy of mass incarceration that's destroying our vibrant and diverse communities?

It was mass incarceration that solved the problem.

they killed the niggers and aborted the nigger babies

Police state

How New York combatted its problems is fairly well documented.

The short answer is that they put cops on foot on every corner, basically acting as security guards most of the time which deterred anything from happening in that area.

They still have this in effect, as you can't walk down any street in Manhattan without seeing multiple cops standing around.

After mayor Koch (Jew) and mayor kangz dinkins (nigger) we got an Italian catholic and the rest is history

Not really mass incarceration. More like mass old school surveillance. Old school meaning eyes and not cameras.

>so what happened?

Donald J. Trump

Basically the FBI and DEA had their budgets grown massively that caused the sweeping cases catching the entire Mafia commission along with every big time dealer in the state. Their budgets just got bigger than the criminals they were fighting I guess, plus you had the broken glass policy and stop and frisk searches.

Plus Giuliani kicked all the hobos and sex shops from times square and caused it to become a tourist attraction

Giuliani plus improving economy. It became a virtuous circle - the more new opportunities that opened up, the more incentive there was to protect or build upon what was there.

Contrast with a place like Detroit, which collapses because there's no reasonable future for anything.

Giuliani turned it into a police state.

I'm guessing beat cops and patrol cars are a pretty common sight in NYC now.

Giuliani was a god who should have become president at some point. Also Trump investing in downtown manhattan, making New York City great again.

NYC is a fucking amazing place now. I'm planning on moving there next year (its mayor is a cuck and some of its laws are retarded, but i love everything else about it)

Looks dystopian, and along with the sense of impending nuclear holocaust at the time.

Priced the niggers out.

The NYPD has an intelligence unit that not only operates nation-wide (undercover NYPD agents in mosques is a known thing) but they also have a foreign intelligence unit. The NYPD was one of the first to warn the Belgian authorities about the Paris attackers.

It was due to an interesting idea.
Be tough on the misdemeanors and other petty crimes.
The idea was that small crimes lead to larger crimes.
They also worked on infrastructure in order to make NY no longer look like a ghetto.
They completely cleaned the trains full of graffiti.
The idea behind this was that if NY looked like a ghetto, then people would treat it as such.

Must have been an interesting time in new york..
Heres TIMES SQUARE in the 70s

Yeah, stop and frisk is what really cleaned the crime up. I saw it first hand staying at a hostel in harlem back in 2009 or 10.. I was out front drinking beer about 2 in the morning and some sketchy black dude was riding a bike around in circles in an intercection, looking like he was waiting for someone. suddenly and unmarked cop car came flying out of no where and came to a screeching halt next to him and 4 NYPD guys not wearing uniforms but just badges around their necks and guns on their hip jumped out and tossed him against the car and did a full pay down- then i guess they didn't find anything because they just jumped back in their car and left.

Its very sketchy constitutionally and they've stopped doing it (their new mayor discontinued it)- but thats how they cleaned the streets up and got a shitload of illegal guns off the street. Now even harlem is safe as fuck.

imagine working at one of those places... fuck.

times square nowadays feels like disney world.

As I recall they tried to install that greasy corrupt wop as president to hurry along the police state but nobody liked him, he never shut up about the terra of 9/11.

Why do nigs and libs always cry about Guiliani? He cleaned up NYC and made it a really nice place. The only happening there has been 9/11 in the last like 20 years.

Are they just mad they couldn't be criminals anymore?

This. Politics and real estate development/gentrification.

Wall Street and finance in NYC was beginning to explode in the late-70's. The influx of new yuppies required nice apartment housing within the city, but the whole place was a slum. Younger guys working in Manhattan didn't want to have to buy nice houses in Greenwich and commute everyday.

Its crazy to think about how in the 70's, 5-star hotels that were once frequented by movie stars and Presidents in the 1920's had become dilapidated, low-income housing heroin dens. Guys like Trump bought them for pennies on the dollar, and re-developed them.

A good example is pic related, the Grand Hyatt in Manhattan. It used to be a run down old turn-of-the-century hotel called The Commodore. Trump re-built it in the late-70's.

All of this real estate development forced low-income people out of Manhattan. This drove crime and poverty from Manhattan to the other boroughs, particularly to low-income housing projects like Co-op City in the Bronx.

NYC has had cycles like these throughout its history. Even though Manhattan is nice now, one day there'll likely be porn theaters and drug dens in Times Square again, and a new Trump will have to clean it up.

Something like 80% of stop and frisked New Yorkers were black and latino and the media made a big deal about how it was racially discriminatory..

>It was mass incarceration that solved the problem.

Zero Tolerance. They figured out the guy that loiters and pisses in the street is also committing more serious offenses. When they started cracking down on everyone, for everything, crime went down.

Its not just sketchy constitutionally, its directly in opposition to the 4th amendment.

like others have said, giuliani and his policies that led to mass incarceration.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory#New_York_City

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Crimes_Unit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#Rudy_Giuliani

now they want to end stop and frisk, release a shitload of felons early, decrease sentences for drug & nonviolent offenses, end mandatory minimums, etc. they don't remember the hard fought battles that drained the swamp of NYC.

It's crazy how much graffiti there was in the 80's.

They turned an island in the East River into the largest penal colony in the world.

But "reasonable suspicion" is a pretty loose term.

"In Terry v. Ohio, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a person can be stopped and briefly detained by a police officer based on a reasonable suspicion of involvement in a punishable crime. If the officer has reasonable suspicion the detainee is armed, the officer may perform a "pat-down" of the person's outer garments for weapons. Such a detention does not violate the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizure, though it must be brief"

Someone riding a bike around in circles at 2am in the middle of the street could fit that. But also the NYPD had massive files of known gang members, prior offenders etc. and all those could tie someone into "reasonable suspicion".

The subways were made safe again due to the actions of Bernie Goetz. He got Jewed pretty good in court, but the city then decided to put an end to the rampant violent crime on the trains. The results were fantastic.

They already got rid of stop and frisk.

Gentrification

they put in a hard ass Republican who put in zero tolerance policing turns out when you arrest people for pissing in the street they stop doing it

it's actually quite the culture shock when you watch a movie from the 70's or 80's set in NY, that place was such a shit hole, it's no wonder they thought it would be a mass prison by the 2000's

Giuliani.
By the way, the Mexican normality of extreme violent crime that oppressed American cities in the late 60s through the 70s was largely the product of progressive efforts to reform the criminal justice system, notably the Warren Supreme Court.
Kitty Genovese is what happens when you restrict what cops can do and let criminals out early.

god damn, I'm upset

Ed Koch helped a little, but mostly Giuliani. De Blasio is dismantling what Giuliani did and the city is fraying.

And stop-and-frisk.

Maybe, but it worked.

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>tfw Trump's gonna make him a Supreme Court justice

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bratton#New_York_City

basically stop/frisk + racial profiling + injunction on gangs

Pretty much this.

It's okay tho, Trump's talking about a nationwide stop and frisk policy. The standards of NY in its prime are about to become national.

Trump should pick Giuliani for AG.

MAGA

For some reason this makes me proud

I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing.

Its pretty neat. This is how it started. Pretty fucking impressive.

nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/n_8286/

For as liberal as New York is, kind of funny to see they got frustrated relying on the CIA and FBI (the feds) and decided they needed to just do shit on their own.

I fucking love John Rocker. He's still a regular on the radio here in atl.

Trump Fixed NYC

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There are now New York City police officers stationed in London working with New Scotland Yard; in Lyons at the headquarters of Interpol; and in Hamburg, Tel Aviv, and Toronto. There are also two cops on assignment at FBI headquarters in Washington, and New York detectives have traveled to Afghanistan, Egypt, Yemen, Pakistan, and the military's prison at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba to conduct interrogations. Members of the department's command staff have also attended sessions at the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island.

The article was from 2003, so about a year after that division started. so pretty impressive they'd already grown to that level.

I think gentrification played a role as well. Heaps of areas that were once no-go ghettos have become trendy hipster hives. The increased property values effectively force the scum out. I'll take Hipsters and their vegan cafes over crack dens and junkies any day. Its funny how these lefty types preach diversity and acceptance, yet they're the ones forcing minorities and low income earners out of their own neighborhoods.

It fills me with rage when one of my old HS friends post on FB about how stop and frisk and gentrification is rayciss. This mother fucker is in the city every day every hour, and has the nerve to pretend that Giuliani was a bad mayor

This nigger has not a clue.

>forcing

no ones forcing anyone to do anything. rents go up voluntarily by the landowner because people will pay them voluntarily. if no one pays higher rents, the rents stay the same or go down. there's nothing "forcing" blacks or mexicans to move out. if they could afford the higher rents, they could stay.

capitalism, in this case, unfair as it may be, is color blind

That's the irony of hipsters. I hate their faggot shit but they really do clean up places pretty well

Abortion and less lead in households probably had something to do with it.

cop dressed cooler back in the day.

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