Which is more important to you, Cred Forums? Where you are from/grew up, or what physical characteristics you have/where your ancestors are from?
Do you feel more kinship with people who look more like you do, or people who have grown up and lived in a similar environment?
Explain your reasoning the best you can.
Jason Ortiz
Anyone who says race is lying. >Inb4 muh white race
Levi Lee
hopefully we'll see if that's true or not. i'm really interested to hear some answers. I like the memes and banter here, but I'm curious what drives people here and why
Dylan Brown
Easy, Race stands out to the masses but through nationality you can identify the multitude of sub-species within the race
Alexander Ward
>through nationality you can identify the multitude of sub-species within the race please elaborate. Also, which is more important to you personally?
Tyler Campbell
It's a bit of both, mate. Though it's a different situation in Europe.
I don't feel at ease next to a Norwegian who just arrived here, but I don't feel at ease close to a nigger who grew up here either.
A Norwegian because the Germanics seem autistic as fuck and hard to approach, and it feels like you're stepping on a mine field if you try to tell a joke. Very rigid sense of humour.
A nigger because he might suddenly chimp out, who knows? You can't take the jungle out of them.
I feel more at ease with an Italian than with a Swede, it has to do with racial and cultural proximity.
I'd feel at ease with a Dane born and raised here though, no doubt about it.
Noah Hughes
interesting. How about this: would you feel more at ease with the Dane that grew up there, or an American of Portuguese descent that moved there?
Luis King
I don't care about either tbqh, most white people are huge cucks and most brits are huge faggots.
Chase Brooks
fair enough, there isn't a wrong answer to me. but who would you consider /yourpeople/?
John Price
like if SHTF and you were in a crowd of all sorts of people, who would you seek out and look to for camaraderie, if anyone?
Henry Hernandez
The type of American who would return to his European nation of origin is probably already heavily invested in the culture and nation of the target country.
He or she was most likely raised by Portuguese parents as well since we haven't been in the USA for long. They probably also have deep-rooted family here like most of us do and were taught some of the language since young. So they'd already be familiar with it for the most part, plus they have the similar appearance bonus.
Like this, the American would be a bit better after about a year of living here properly. Hypothetically, that is. We're not taking differences between people into account. The Dane could be pretty cool while the American could be a complete sperg.
If you mean an American with diluted blood and no understanding of the country then obviously no.
If you mean an American of full portuguese ancestry but no understanding then that's still a no.
Daniel Hernandez
thanks for answering. So for you, it would be fair to say that on average, Nationality is more important? Someone who has an understanding of the country and culture is more of a brother than a stranger from far away that has the look and genetics?
I'd still like to visit regardless. My ancestor jumped ship a hundred years ago, he was from Sao Jorge
Cameron Gray
>Culture and History* of the target country. They also most likely have a lot of pride in it as it's a significant part of their identity.
Jason Moore
>So for you, it would be fair to say that on average, Nationality is more important? I was trying to say that it's not that easy. The idea that nationality exists apart from race or ethnicity is a recent thing.
Portugal for example. Our flag unites (or used to, anyway) one tribe/ethnicity, one culture, one religion, one history.
Anyway, this dicussion is pointless unless you establish what your final goal is. What are you trying to decide?
Mate, you're welcome to visit. Just act respectable and nice like a normal healthy and functional human bean. In the West the international cultures are very different but not completely alien to each other. That's why we're the West.
Let me make this easier: I wouldn't welcome a nigger no matter what. It's just not happening. I'd welcome racial Europeans if they were truly willing to assimilate and work for their new fatherland. As long as it's in small numbers so as to not displace the natives.
Hell, my woman is slavic herself and she sees more in this country than most of us combined. We've already agreed that our children will be completely raised as Portuguese.
This is where I draw the line.
Now, if you're a stupid faggot fuccboi then you can have a direct lineage to the founder himself but I'd look for an excuse to stop you from coming in even if you were raised as a Portuguese outside of Portugal.
The moral of the story is: if you're a swagboi end it all before it's too late.
I get it you're an American and you gets tend to get super autistic over topics like this thread's, but chill out.
>regardless This is what I meant, no one's gonna kill you. No need to be so tense.
Julian Stewart
yeah i don't have any ulterior motives, hell I probably won't see the azores for some time, I just don't have the money yet.
I was just trying to gauge your response. But it's pretty clear there is no definite answer for you.
Since this thread is dying anyway, here's my answer: Nationality trumps race for me. Exceptions aside (niggers, chicano spics) I'll take an American of any color over my own ""race"" any day. And the culture is the reason. Not saying I don't like Portuguese, but they know little of the local culture. It's not like it is on TV. Everywhere is different. Even within a region you would think would all be the same. But I believe I would have a better chance of getting along with an American than a Portuguese citizen if I absolutely had to choose.
I just wanted to see if Cred Forums was on the same wavelength, white memes notwithstanding.
Noah Robinson
Race is more important to me, but I call it 'heritage' because I don't like the 'white race' meme. I am a white man in California in a very, very brown area of the state.
>Explain your reasoning the best you can.
Mexicans, Mexican Americans and Hispanics do not, as a group, share the cultural values of USA, which is mostly just an offshoot of European enlightenment values. Many of the hispanics are vocal and clear about their desire for California to be part of Mexico, and they want California to be run like Mexico. They have to some degree achieved this already with the support of liberal fools. They do not live like I live, they do not hold the same moral code that I hold. We are truly two separate peoples living side by side.
>Anyone who says race is lying. you strike me as someone who grew up around people of your own race. I did not. When I do find them I get along much better with them than I do mexicans from my city. I have a question for you: If you went to a new city as a tourist or to settle and you saw a group of 10 people, 5 like your race and 5 like some other race - both groups homogeneous, which would you pick to socialize with? Or would you not socialize at all with anyone ever? In this new place you hypothetically go to, would you be more drawn to people that look like you or who are different?
Charles Scott
Of course I would choose people of my own race. That is mostly biological. Growing up, did you not make friends with the brownies then?
Brandon Adams
Why is race in quotation marks?
There are three factors at play here:
1. Race/ethnicity 2. Culture/religion/history 3. The individual
Most people will say 3>2>1, even I say that.
I'm best friends with a half spic. He still has to back, though.
When you're talking about races you're talking about well documented general trends, which is what you should go by when dealing with mass politics.
Race has become one of the major issues of this era, which is why some people are going ballistic and even overboard with it in my opinion. What is troubling you are the waves created by the forging of a new identity born from racial tensions.
You'll have to figure it out by yourself.
Genetics is destiny at a massive group level, Europeans appear to be the most accomplished group by a colossal margin. That's why racemixing is heavily condemned here, not to mention the kids will be fucked up. This leads to the solution being either segregation (which some view as temporary), deportation or extermination.
Ayden Bennett
Race is meaningless. Culture and nationality is important. If you create and then impose a culture onto a group of people sharing the same border, you will have a unified people. A nation bound by the same mores, ideas, language, and beliefs will be strong as steel.
Jason Thompson
Race counts for essentially nothing in my area. Ethnicity is what most people care about.
I don't care about how people look. It's whether or not they share my values. I wouldn't want to live in a neighbourhood full of blond, blue-eyed Muslims, but I wouldn't mind living in a Catholic Filipino area.
Henry Bell
Race people who are brown are fundamentally different from me on an unchangable biological level. culture can be learned