EM Drive

>falling for a sheep

Wait until it works.

Put one in space and test the motherfucker. It's still pretty speculative right now.

>tl/dr: come back when it works

It does, we'll get it working correctly soon.

We're good at making Engines.

it does work but yeah.. it hasn't been tested in space yet. Don't see why it wouldn't.

They call it memedrive for a reason.

So how long until Thunderf00t or somebody says why it's all bullshit.

elaborate

>The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) has ended days of speculation by confirming it has indeed accepted a paper on the controversial space propulsion technology EmDrive, signalling that the Nasa Eagleworks paper has passed peer review.

I'm skeptical but I hope it works.

Maybe whites can steal it like in "Time enough for love" and become the master race of the galaxy.

Man becomes weak when he doesn't have new frontiers to conquer.

>Fetta has announced that he wants to put his Cannae Drive thruster (based on the emdrive) into a cube satellite and launch it into a low Earth orbit, with an altitude of less than 150 miles. The cubesat will be left in space for at least six months and serve as a real-life demonstration that a propellant-less rocket engine can work and keep a satellite in space

Getting to Mars in 10 weeks seems too good to be true. I mean, if you can do that, you can basically send humans *anywhere* in the solar system.

If it does pan out, though, *holy shit*. We're finally entering the space age.

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Fluxliners are used for over 50 years now.

It won't work.

t. actual (former) rocket scientist

>t. actual (former) rocket scientist

proof

Why haven't we made a moon Base yet? All this talk about doing it on Mars when we should at least do it on the moon first

Come back when it will be tested in space.

I want it to work. Other people what it to work. Kek want it to work. Everyone want it to work. We need it to start exploring our system and build better engines to eventually visit en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852
>In addition to the day-long dimmings, a study of a century's worth of photographic plates suggest the star has gradually faded from 1890 to 1989 by about 20%, which would be unprecedented for any F-type main sequence star.
>A third study, using light measured by the Kepler observatory over a four-year period, determined that KIC 8462852 dimmed at about 0.34 percent per year before dropping dramatically by about 2.5 percent in 200 days. It then returned to its original slow fade rate. The same technique was used to study 193 stars in its vicinity and 355 stars similar in size and composition to KIC 8462852. None of these stars exhibited such dimming.

becauuse there isnt anything of value retard

its just stones

>converts energy into thrust
This is literally impossible. When the hell did this happen, why wasn't this news? That's like discovering that you can make a perpetual motion device after all.

I'm ready

Why don't they just build pic related?

Q-thruster is the way to go.

There's more to be gained than just stones. The construction of a Base, overcoming any problems, testing new technologies etc would be invaluable to a mission to Mars.

you're an idiot

>soon

no

>implying the moon nazis haven't made a deal with the UN to keep people from settling the moon

It's been in the news quite a bit.

This could start the commercialisation of space travel.

>shit posting on Cred Forums while orbiting titan

>white people angry at other white people

go home shill you're drunk.

Can't wait tbqh

For those who don't know

The EM Drive can convert energy into thrust with some weird quantum bullshit.

The drive doesn't need fuel to shoot out the back of the spaceship, so you save on weight there. And because you don't need fuel to shoot out the back of the spaceship, if you could somehow continue to power the drive forever, you'd be able to fire the drive forever.

So could the drive take us to the moon in a few hours? Yes, if we could power the drive for the entire length of the trip. But in order to do that, we'd need some kind of reactor, or some sort of fuel to burn to power the EM drive, or maybe an enormous solar array to keep it powered. Which means in the end, we've merely changed the problem from one of fuel to one of how to keep an EM drive powered.

That's not to say we won't solve that problem; only that we haven't solved it YET.

>The drive doesn't need fuel to shoot out the back of the spaceship, so you save on weight there. And because you don't need fuel to shoot out the back of the spaceship, if you could somehow continue to power the drive forever, you'd be able to fire the drive forever.
Drive needs electricity, duh. And to get electricity you need some sort of engine. And that some sort of engine will be using fuel (since you obviously can't getting power from Sun forever and anywhere) to produce said electricity to power said drive.
tl;dr nope, you still needs fuel.

We already have the ability to get to Mars a lot quicker using black project tech.
We probably already have bases there.

source

It won't work. Every time the effect is measured, it's magnitude becomes smaller and smaller. It's probably just some Lorentz force originating from a current and the earths magnetic field.

Yes but I completely changes the kind of fuel we can use, because now you no longer need a combustible fuel, you just need to be able to generate electricity, so a small nuclear reactor could send you anywhere in the solar system and back again

>converting energy into a different type of energy is impossible

wow you're a retard

Where have you been? It's been discussed quite a bit.

Experiments have shown time and time again that this is producing thrust, even though it "shouldn't" by our understanding of physics. It could actually work or it could be experimental human error. I think there is some company who just said "fuck it" and they're going to put one in space within the next year to see if it works. Will be good to see the result either way, and something will still be learned regardless of the outcome.

Look up Gary McKinnon and some of the stuff he uncovered after hacking 900+ NASA computers over a 13 month period.

*97

>"black projects"
asks for source

>You really think we would be hiding stuff from you goyim?
wired.com/2006/06/ufo-hacker-tells-what-he-found/

a relatively small amount of power is all it would need, so better more efficient energy conversion and storage. Even if this thing only had an acceleration of 1 meter per second, it would be moving at 200,000 meters per second in less than 60 hours, thus it would only take 2.5 days to reach a speed of 200,000 meters per second.

Now if you consider it could run indefinitely...

This is why the EM drive is a big deal when it comes to interplanetary travel, it makes it so much more feasible.

>youtube.com/watch?v=CkVNv7PbeH8

>you still need fuel

You need energy. A pretty large ball of which we currently orbit, last I checked.

stones and helium 3

>Mars
>moon

No, you guys have it all wrong. We use it to go to Earth. We get a giant tungsten rod in a reverse solar orbit then hit the Middle East with it. Its relative speed would be like the earth's orbit around the sun, but twice that amount.

It would take a while due to orbital mechanics (might need a bi-elliptic transfer), but it'll be worth it.

spooky

Same thing as with solar power generation on Earth - if you can put and make work in space a small nuclear reactor, there's no reason to deal with solar panels. Especially if you ever intend to go beyond Mars/Jupiter/Saturn.

Isn't this the thing that supposedly is exploiting a bug in the fabric of reality which corrects itself and causes thrust from nowhere?

I don't think you understand this concept properly user.

Everything we have in space right now works on propellant fuel. Satellites go to space weighing 3 tons, and 2.5 tons of that weight is actually just FUEL to keep the Satelite up there in orbit.

The international space station needs a spacecraft to dock with it multiple times a year and use its own propellant to readjust the position its in so that it won't fall out of orbit.
With an engine that runs on solar panels? We're talking about making the international space station be able to stay in orbit forever. For Satellites to weigh 1/3rd as much (and be 1/3rd as expensive to put up) and be able to stay up forever.

We already have nuclear powered aircraft carriers that can run for 40 (FOURTY) years, and re-enrichment systems that could fuel those carriers for 200 YEARS.

Throw some uranium in a tube and your space craft can accelerate for as long as it damn pleases.

come on benz its time to get the toolbox out

>Satellites go to space weighing 3 tons, and 2.5 tons of that weight is actually just FUEL to keep the Satelite up there in orbit.

you mean rockets that carry satellites, right?

satellites orbiting earth don't have trust devices

It's only a bug if you are a cucked uniformitarianism materialist. If you are enlightened and understand that the geometry of the tetragrammaton is the fabric of space time then the EM drive is a simple mechanism.

I still don't understand why nasa is so fucking obsessed with mars instead of building a proper lunar base or even a space construction array on earth/lunar orbit so it doesn't blow up hundreds of dollars on blowing up space shuttles.
That way we could send construction equipment on shitty unmanned missiles and all the assembly would be done up there.

>satellites orbiting earth don't have trust devices

This is why you don't have a successful space program.

ebin

this is why you don't have successful education system

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_decay

I don't know why you think otherwise. But nearly every satellite you use daily, for your mobile phone, GPS, internet, television. Ect. Has to make course adjustments every month or so or it'll fall into the atmosphere and burn up.

Even the Sun's rays hitting a solar panel will eventually ruin the orbit of a satellite in much deeper space. It's just a standard thing.

My education system obviously went far more in depth to astrophysics than yours did.

NASA reviews are not a joke. I've been to at least 3.

It boils down to a technical board ass blasting an engineer on every single slide out of about 100 slides and you can't continue unless you pass the review. Takes 3-4 hours and sometimes it takes a 2nd or 3rd review...

>position thrusters
>2,5 tons of fuel

Mate, New Horizon had only 77kgs of hydrazine, and it's interplanetary craft.

Either provide example of your numbers or fuck off.

RACE WAR

Warp drive best drive, alcubierre for life

new horrizon isn't supposed to orbit a planet for decades

Robert Zubrin could do it for a quarter of the cost and you're a massive faggot.. Nasa a shit

youtube.com/watch?v=Kr6qQybfwEg

Love listening to a bunch of dumb faggots in an echo chamber try to figure out physics.

You know when you see a dog chasing its tail? It's like that but worse.

i'm ready to leave that shitty planet.

Take me to mars , let the earthlings burns in their own degeneracy

the warp drive requires exotic particles we dont have and may not exist. its a theory which has no working model

the EM drive has multiple working models has been peer reviewed and requires no special materials. in fact you could make your own if you had enough electricity to power it. maybe in 10 years when ceramic battery prices drop i will buy 20 that each could power a house for 17 hours and make a star wars speeder bike

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That looks fucking dank

>t converts energy
Where does that come from?

So when is this supposed to happen? They gonna wait 30 years to test it out? All of the European countries will be blacked or caliphate by then, so I guess it'll be the chinks or nips doing it.

>>white people angry at other white people
>implying this has never happened
Once upon a time, about 100 years ago, there was no "white" race. There were just ethnic nations. America and Australia were British Islanders, without the Germans and other trash. The only place that still has some semblance of that in America is the South, and what a surprise, it's the most based region that hates Yankees.

Isn't this the drive that provided something like a couple of millinewtons of thrust per watt when it was tested?

Fake science. Violates laws of physics. Even if works as advertised, produces much much much less thrust than required for anything useful. Also fucks up communications.

If all it needs is electricity send a nuclear plant up into space and strap an em drive to its arse. It could go for hundreds of years.

Law of thermodynamics says it won't work.
Stick to trump and happenings Cred Forums

They went to the moon and now they know to stay away.

Someone that actually understands space thank fuck

All these bitching about muh fuel don't understand that in space there is virtually no drag from wind so you could accelerate very slowly for a long time and reach a gorllion miles an hour

It does need fuel yes , but very very little

If this works, why the fuck isn't it replacing the hemi on my Dodge?

The kicker is conservation of momentum.

Assume I know nothing about physics (I don't).

Which laws is it violating and who wrote them? Because if the answer is (((Einstein))) I'd put my money on the EM drive over the sacred calf of mathematics.

EM drive is shit tier. It has not been proven to work in a vacuum, its over hyped from buzzfeed levels of """journalism """. They got less than 1mN of force out of it once, although it is assumed it was just air being heated up from the device and rising. EM drives are a meme.

Newtons 3rd law. Good anglo science.

>about 100 years ago, there was no "white" race.

There was a white race outside of Europe over 100 years ago. The race of one group is only readily observable in contrast with other races. This is why the current invasion of europe is a good thing (and temporary), as it will teach European societies about race.

The sad thing is people will continue to bite this bait.

It's a great way to get you to forfeit your Shekels... I approve Goy-kun!

fucking space niggers

This isn't true. The US spent 620 billion on education in 2012-2013 school year alone. Fuck off shill and die.

A light saber with 2 handles?