Long story short, there have been done pretty big research about test levels in man, and they are dropping fast. If you wondered why there is this nu-male explosion, cucking popularity explosion, weak libtards explosion, etc, (((they))) might not be the only reason.
Chemicals, including estrogen, are saturated into low level ground waters.
Average median testosterone level dropped around 0,4% per year, BUT it's falling median 1,6% per year with age at last trench of tests (2004-2006), level that was completely mad compared to earlier test groups.
This is researched and known, but it showed under the rug because breast cancer and (((stuff)))
Save yourself. Get yourself checked, ask your doctor about testosterone replacement therapy, or just get test from good sources and start cycling. Keep yourself physically active. DO NOT DRINK TAP WATER, and when buying water check if its from municipal water sources or is it deep drilled.
Is that why East Europe is so masculine? They still have some testosterone left
Juan Lewis
What are the positive effects of testosterone? How does this affect my mental state?
Lincoln Anderson
It's the main fucking hormone that allows men to act like men.
Same goes for estrogen for females, which they're getting MORE of.
Xavier Mitchell
Possible, but that means it will come to us since we are using the same chemicals now
You feel better You are stronger You feel more confident You have more muscle and less fat No erectile disfunction Lowers the chance of prostate cancer
So for water, what's a good plan? I hate the idea of buying water, so what can I do to process my tap water? Filter suggestions? Distill the tap water?
Isaiah Ramirez
It's all the xenoestrogens in the water supplies and environment that we are exposed to as children and in the womb.
FUCKING BIRTH CONTROL PILLS ARE PISSED OUT INTO THE WATER SYSTEM AND WATER TREATMENT CAN'T STOP IT
MIGHT AS WELL CHOP OFF THE PENIS NOW
Aiden Ramirez
Testosterone will give you
>High energy >better immune system >Healthier mind (you'll actually become much more of a leader, less of a wuss) >More muscles >Strength >Better sex drive >You'll want to do manly stuff like invasion, or building something
uncuck yourself with testosterone
Dylan Collins
no fucking idea, sorry mate, dunno if you can even filter something on that level
Juan Jones
Any graphs for 20-40? Ages 45+ aren't that relevant.
Elijah Ortiz
800 reporting in. Also becoming bald during my twenties reporting in. Not sure if I would trade for more hair but less testosterone, probably not.
Gabriel Bell
Also, any sources for pre-45 year olds? (or of pre 55-year olds in recent years) Nu-males don't tend to be pensioners
John Bell
maybe gather rain water or use one of those new machines that turn air moisture to water.
Samuel Baker
Are testosterone injections justified?
Jeremiah Torres
Learn basic biology.
Most 60 yr old women have more testosterone than men. Aging, you fucking mong.
>What is a thyroid?
Austin Edwards
So that's why I'm such a little bitch...
Isaac Lewis
>testosterone >good for mental health In balance it's okay. In high levels it's potentially quite nasty. >wanting to do manly things like invasion Invasion isn't a manly thing.
Thomas James
You missed the whole point Jimbo Men in the past had higher testosterone levels at young age. A man in his 20's for example pre war had much higher testosterone levels then a man in his 20's today
Kayden Hughes
If you inject it for the rest of your life, sure. Your balls stop producing it if you do.
Charles Wilson
invasion, innovation what's the difference? :^)
Jason Martinez
>Declining testosterone levels in men not part of normal aging
First of all: >science daily
Second of all men are also much fatter than they used to be and adipose tissue holds testosterone and produces estrogen.
All you stupid junior endocrinologists with no degree need to calm down. Plasma testosterone is meaningless because you don't know how many T-receptors you have to actually bind and use testosterone, which are much more important.
Let's also not ignore than testosterone is one of MANY androgens that effect masculinity.
Jacob Williams
Distilled water increases your chance of getting water poisoning and you'll miss out on minerals. I'd suggest filtration with activated coal but i'd like to know if this has been tested yet
Zachary Perez
>not having safe tap water sucks to be you
Cooper Green
I seriously think this is a major issue but all research and articles I've found on it downplay it as an issue.
Luis Watson
Don't get the pill shit. Get it naturally by working out and eating healthy.
Nathan Harris
>in high level's it's potentially quite nasty
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. The reason those "test supplements" are a scam and you'd never actually get a script for one from your doctor is because you can take all the testosterone you want, you're body can't use it and you'll just piss it out.
Fucking broscience bullshit goddammit Alex Jones
Nolan Perry
>you're ***your
Fuck me dead I just woke up
Josiah Flores
shieeet alex jones was right. ordering my water filter now.
Julian Russell
The jews are the biggest driving force behind this in the west (in asian countries it's because they eat tofu and other shit rich in xenoestrogens). Males of jewish origins are genetically and culturally low-test men and they can't have other men being more masculine and virile than them so they push a sugary diet and terrible pop-culture to stop the image of the strong male.
Fucking jews, kill them all.
Mason Smith
>le joo nu male cuck conspiracy
Josiah Scott
This is true and all, but a lot of it is thought to be due to increasingly shitty diet and lack of exercise, especially resistance i.e. bodyweight and weightlifting movements. Fix those things FIRST, if they are currently bad then this will increase your testosterone significantly for free, amongst other health benefits. You "should" hit your genetic muscle-gaining limits before you start to think about pinning, although of course most /fit/izens don't including the ones that recite that advice.
Recommended reading: - Testshock-lite-Edition.pdf - The /fit/ sticky
Jaxon Miller
no mention of beer? it is a source of estrogen many times all the things you mention combined.
Sebastian Taylor
That conspiracy is older then any of us
Connor Nguyen
Is there anyway we can feed xenoestrogens to Googles? Like putting them in KFC. Africans should be easy to poison because they dont grow their own food and just eat what we give them.
Tyler Campbell
this pretty much all true but its a vicious circle >you get low test because of behavioural and dietary reason >you feel worse and don't work out because of low test >your test lowers more >rinse and repeat, at 50 you have test level lower than 75 yo 20 years ago
Alexander Rogers
>implying we do you faggot You think our tap water doesn't have estrogen?
Connor Hughes
I got high test though My dad actually was given pills to lower his testosterone because some doctor said it was too high which is funny (he never took them)
every one has it now, problem is that its a cumulative effect, so westerners have it much worse then ex commie block, but its coming to us too
Owen Gonzalez
thats bretty good, bout you probably know youre outlier.
>dem genes through
You need to breed mate
Matthew Bell
Yes yes, Alex Jones told you that we do so it must be true. Now, do you want to show any proofs? I don't believe everything I read on the internet.
Nathan Nelson
just a question even if you would get estrogen through food/water... how would it decrease your testosterone? It's not like they neutralize each other or something. also: couldn't all of it be explained by obesity? Fat actually creates estrogen from testosterone and people were getting fatter and fatter in the last years.
Brody Rodriguez
>test from good sources and start cycling >a polish intellectual appears. that's the best way to destroy your test levels,once you start you can never stop bc natural production starts to shutdown,please refer to the daily gear threads on fit
Mason Rivera
estrogen in man makes you fat and lazy, that leads to less physical activity and ...well more fat, all that lowers testosterone
– Jos vesistön yläjuoksulla nainen pissaa omaan vessanpönttöönsä, se menee puhdistuslaitokselle puhdistettavaksi. Nykyiset puhdistusmenetelmät eivät kuitenkaan poista lääkejäämiä ja osa siitä päätyy lopulta jonkun juomaveteen, Rantala kertoo.
Kill yourself idiot.
Kayden Hall
Manual labor will significantly raise your test levels. That's why you never see a construction worker that looks like a faggot.
Jaxson Ross
I've never felt better since I started cycling test. 10/10 would recommend.
Julian Phillips
and that's probably why office workers should pick up lifting more than anyone
Gavin Peterson
Many xenoestrogens (not necessarily steroid based) function as an antiandrogen too, limiting the expression of the testosterone present in body.
Carter Barnes
Should add though, if you are currently fat there's the unfortunate footnote that it will increase your testosterone EVENTUALLY. The single best thing you can do in this situation is lose fat and increase LBM, until you do the excess adipose tissue will kind of keep a ceiling on your test levels. Consider intermittent fasting, the "just skip breakfast" version is the most realistic form for most people.
Yeah, it's shitty how your body actively sabotages you in that situation although there is an equivalent virtuous circle *if* you can get it going. I don't judge anyone who juices so long as it's a fully informed / researched decision and they have some actual "need" for external hormones, versus filling their glutes with Chinese bathtub oil when they're not out of puberty yet.
William Cook
balding is caused by higher testosterone levels if i recall.
Brandon Sullivan
>bad advice
if you want to raise test and cut estrogen out of your diet, then stop eating pussy.
Benjamin Wright
not T, but DHT (di-hydrotestosterone), coupled with poor genetics.
that said, better to go bald than to suppress DHT.
Benjamin Allen
My test must be pretty high if im horney enough to maturate every day right?
Luke Howard
testostore is literally irrelevant in our modern society, get over it.
Jayden Ward
DHT. But it also depends heavily on genetics related to androgen receptors in the hair follicles or something.
Dominic Rivera
Thanks shlomo
Xavier Baker
Same with running. And a little lifting. But running works even better.
Jack Cook
>pooland cannot into testosterone
breddy much
Jacob Kelly
>normal testosterone >not on bull shark testosterone
LOL WHAT A PUSSY I COULD STICK YOU UP MY ASS SMALL FRY
Xavier Thomas
of course it's falling. sedantery life style combined with xenoestrogens are killing us. it's hilarious how nobody is talking about this, men are essentially getting poisoned by estrogen and nobody gives a fuck.
John Thompson
!!!FRIENDLY REMINDER!!! Don't forget that the feminine social norms that have now been implented in our society are an even bigger contributor to an effeminate society!!!
Something I've written a few days ago, it's rather applicable here: Marxism and feminism are incredibly tightly intertwined and feminism and the emancipation of women are indeed, one of the most potent weapons for making a society gradually move towards socialism; this all, said by one of the most prominent Jewish Marxists which was associated with the Frankfurt school, Herbert Marcuse (link below). Marcuse explains how their biggest enemy, capitalism, is an economic system which in it’s core has overly masculine principles: competitivness, assertivness, efficiency, or the way he said it: “The rule of functional rationality discriminating against emotions.” So the one logical conclusion one could get to while examining this, is that feminine principles are basically the antithesis of capitalism, hence the conclusion he got to. What he proposed further into the lecture is slowly and cautiously instilling these feminine principles into the culture, so that a gradual and mostly unnoticed subversion of the man could happen. He spoke about how women should go more into the workforce, while counting that as these women understand that they aren’t as competitive and assertive as men, they’ll get angry, and call upon feminizing the work place; they’ll make the expectation bar slowly shift down and down, so that there’s no more competition, everyone is good, everyone is a winner! A truly equal, Marxist society. He went on to talk about the “masculine-feminine antithesis” some more, saying how this “receptive sensitivity” or emotionality in general which was known to have been an almost exclusively feminine characteristic, should now be instilled in men within this slow shift where female start becoming more dominant.
Cameron Morgan
That's feminism for you every time someone brings this out the response is: >yea, yea, but have you donated to breast cancer? Do not forget ovarian cancer too!!
Like when someone brings out male suicide rates he is called mysoginist
lol i take estrogen pills for aesthetical reasons and guaranteed none of you are capable of anything i do lol
nonetheless it all comes from my FREE will and not your arbitary unfree chemicals rofl so much for being a special human warmachine huh? lol you need pills or genes ROFL
really, fight me rofl you will be rotting under the sun in no time
Easton Ramirez
Food that blocks estrogen: champignon, pomegranates, red wine and red grapes.
Jace Jenkins
watching
Jonathan Gray
Natural T is "only" suppressed for a few months after a cycle, it can be managed by proper PCT and restored faster with HCG. (It is *possible* to permanently fuck your fertility up, but only if you take huge quantities constantly i.e. you're a competition bodybuilder.)
SARMs like Ostarine are probably the future, they promise the anabolic benefits with relatively minimal sides, but I've yet to try them myself and have no idea what sources are legit.
Ryan Ward
if this were true than the cases of breast and ovarian cancer would increase if there where more estrogen in the water.
Estrogen and Testosterone are hormones, and water is one of the strongest solvents in the world, how would it survive in plumbing?
>not even looking at biological and environmental factors
Camden Stewart
>Marxism I'm a socialist and I think this is insane.
Aaron Rodriguez
>he's a slav Kek, we're stronk what can I say.
Jacob Morgan
Fuck yea, MK-2866 looks like a dream
Eli Torres
>memeoestrogens
seriously, all you googles need to just STFU about how your poor nads are being poisoned by your diet. i can sum it up for all of you with one word: FAT!
bodyfat acts as an aromatizer to testosterone. it literally converts your T to E.
so lose some bodyfat you stupid fuckers. and don't go full retard. you still need about 15% fat to maintain optimal hormonal regulation.
Leo Cook
Shut the fuck up.
Lucas Rodriguez
Amerifat
Oliver Edwards
Bald men can get pussy
Just accept it. Like a beard.
Ryder Baker
...? You do realize that the goal of Marxism is a Socialist society i.e. the Marxist theory is only a tool with which they plan to reach a Socialist society? It's only different if you're a National Socialist, thought the word "Socialist" in it's name hardly means anything.
Andrew Rodriguez
IT'S THE WATER
Joseph Rivera
Probably deserve it for being shitlords.
Kevin Kelly
I know exactly what to do and eat and my dht/test levels are high as fuck and I used to tell everyone what to do but NOOOOO BODY LISTENED TO ME
NOOOO he's just a DUMB conspiracy theorist OOOOOo
NOW you want to know NOW you do well you know what world?
Suck my dick, this is AMERICA and you should of listened when you had the chance, now why don't you go and sit on each one of the four posts of your fancy fucking four post money bed and suck my dick because you might as well give up being a man now you fucknig traitor THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT LISTENEING TO ME
If you're not cruising on TRT and HCG then you're probably a retard anyway
Adam Nelson
make me, i'm the male lesbian while all of you are homos who love test-fueled dick up their muscled asses lol i can still whoop any of you by pure will though fear me rofl
Mason Cooper
My country has like the highest levels of estrogen in "fresh" water of all.
If we had gassed all of the skypes we wouldnt have this problem now
Evan Anderson
see he talks about cruising lol look at this big gay muscled homo
come on over here and fight me i'm the human definition of war, violence, will etc, son of zeus etc
yes i am the son of zeus and a male lesbian, i take estrogen and annihilate people big ugly homos who dwarf me in size while being a pretty boy (not ugly, not stupid, therefore no test)
Jacob Cruz
IT TURNIN' THE FRIGGIN' FROGS GAY
Bentley Robinson
What about fapping? I've heard everything really...
Ayden Long
Fapping does not help
Charles Jones
Just coming in here to say the filters you can buy and use at home will not filter out the xenoestrogens.
Chase Martin
>Estrogen and Testosterone are hormones, and water is one of the strongest solvents in the world, how would it survive Is this an abstract kind of bait? They "survive" in the aqueous environment of the human body. Water isn't a "strong" solvent per se (and doesn't tear steroid molecules apart as you seem to be suggesting.) It's inaccurately known as the universal solvent because it's weakly polar, so quite a wide range of chemicals dissolve in it to some extent.
Jack Martin
Seriously, do these work for Estrogen? If so I'm getting them.
>schizophrenia medication
kek. So first does this work? And second is it a good idea if I'm not schizophrenic?
Caleb Smith
>he doesn't own a revere osmosis filter
Jose Perry
maybe
Jonathan Bennett
>male lesbian Failure of evolution detected. Kindly continue taking your estrogen supplements until you are infertile.
Lucas Sanders
Why tho?
Ethan Peterson
reminder just drinking tap or bottled water is an estrogen supplemnt
Landon Clark
lol you're an animal and i'm not. literally, go back to zoo cage you chimp
here, come fight me in my territory i dare you *pisses in your territory* what you gonna do about it, chimp-man
Robert Reyes
well what do I do? I drink a few litres of tap water a day, I'd become severely hydrated if I had to stop Honestly this estrogen in the water conspiracy sounds like a ploy to get people to buy soft drinks and energy drinks etc
Joseph Gomez
im marking my scent all over your territory right now
>be me >cigarette smoker I may be killing my lungs but at least I'm not turning into some effeminate husk of a 'man'.
>creates own thread for attention
Grayson Taylor
buy bottled water, just check where it comes from. If its from surface or municipal sources it's basically tap water. If its deep drilled from underground its mostly gonna be fine
Owen Green
What about the bottle's plastic containing BPA?
Michael Davis
i am pure low test and pure violence
i dare you to fight me
Jackson Edwards
>BPA shit man, dunno, there is bottled water in glass but its expensive. I guess at this point its about minimising the effects
Basically, fapping *too much* chronically lowers your average testosterone. But that's VERY easy to do in our 24/7 free streaming hardcore porn world, so the nofap movement is partially correct.
Gabriel White
Luckily my water comes from my own welled aquifer on my property. Feels good.
Luis Thompson
Shine redlights on your testicles/sunbathe naked. Measure testosterone level before and 3 months after doing it few times a week.
Jackson Clark
sounds like a kike conspiracy to get me to buy bottled water you sneaky sneaky toilet cleaning kike
Jayden Collins
That's what concerns me. If all we can do is minimise the decline of the gene pool, things will get worse regardless. Don't worry, the free market will fix this!
Luis Morgan
This is a legit concern lads, but actually get yourself tested before taking steps to boost your stats. If you do it at incorrect levels you can actually fucking die because of hormone BS.
Isaac Watson
Will fapping increase my testosterone
Sebastian Young
>ask your doctor about testosterone replacement therapy Basically impossible, even if you are in a range where it already has severe side effects they will just assume you want some cheap drugs.
Isaiah Robinson
Dunno how it's in UK, here in Poorland there are many deep wells where you can fill your own bottles for literally pennies. I have a summer house with a natural well at 317m underground and its absolute purity.
Most people who pour it there use those 20l hard plastic bottles that are certainly BPA. You could always by a BPA tank and take your drinking water that way, but it's just getting more and more inconvenient
Jacob Gutierrez
I thought so, but it appears it's getting more and more common in the US.
You know, free market healthcare and shit
Cameron Peterson
...
Joseph King
>You could always by a BPA tank You could always guy a BPA free tank*
mfl
Robert Wilson
Dig into the actual science and find out what concentrations it's present at. I bet it's technically present in (UK) drinking water, but at vanishingly low levels that have virtually no effect. Also a hot cup of tea MIGHT be enough to hydrolyse it judging by ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21218831
David Johnson
My location makes such a thing inconvenient. Xenoestrogens absorbed through the skin are more potent than those directly consumed so I'll prioritise stopping absorption I.e soap, washing powder, shampoo etc
Elijah Bell
Also this post deserves to be reiterated, if you are fat then that's 90% of your problem. Don't just eat at calorific deficit though, you absolutely NEED to lift too or your BMR will plummet --> skinnyfat --> rebound into being fatter than ever plus you feel like shit. Been there, done that.
Eli Evans
>men become more sedentary >test declining
Wow I wonder why. Must be some fucking conspiracy.
Adam Walker
No, excessive fapping decreases androgen receptors which in turn results in lower amount of available testosterone.