New poll from today. It's almost getting silly

New poll from today. It's almost getting silly.

At this point I think we can all pretty much agree that if you support Hillary, you're an intelligent, well informed person and that if you support Trump you're just subhuman garbage.

It used to be that Trumpfags could damage control this, but with this new poll you'd pretty much have to be schizophrenic to deny the reality. The gap just keep widening the longer the campaign goes on.

Keep in mind that this is just college graduates, it doesn't include postgrads, among whom she fucks him up even harder.

tl;dr, Trump is only winning thanks to low-IQ genetic waste. If only smart people were allowed to vote, he wouldn't win a single state.

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truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-used-agents-as-pawns-to-insulate-hillary-aides-clinton-foundation-from-prosecutions/
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>Low IQ genetic waste
>Ph.D. in Women's Studies is valuable and proves intelligence

Go suck your dog's dick, Leaf.

Now post the charts breaking it down by income. The welfare Googles overwhelmingly support Clinton.

this thread is about intelligence, not income

Why I Switched My Endorsement from Clinton to Trump

blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to

Farage: ‘Hillary Clinton Is an Outdated Twentieth Century Candidate’

breitbart.com/london/2016/09/25/nigel-farage-hillary-clinton-twentieth-century-candidate/

FBI Used Agents As Pawns To Insulate Hillary, Aides & Clinton Foundation From Prosecutions

truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-used-agents-as-pawns-to-insulate-hillary-aides-clinton-foundation-from-prosecutions/

>sage

Why are you posting all this shit? What does it have to do with my thread?

Nice set of presumptions you got there leaf.

Also, very nice red herring. Sorry.

A fucking LEAF

>Nice set of presumptions you got there leaf.

It's literally a graph with numbers and data.

...

"tl;dr, Trump is only winning thanks to low-IQ genetic waste. If only smart people were allowed to vote, he wouldn't win a single state."

That's funny. That's exactly how Obama won twice.

Why do leaf posters always make the dumbest threads?
There is no proof of this, every one I associate with has 4 or 6 year degrees, and hates Clinton.
This graph is from her campaign, and she has a long history of lies.

>That's funny. That's exactly how Obama won twice.

>Obama has a cult of personally and appeals to people without any substance with celiberty status
>Trump is the same

You don't have 4 or 6 degrees because if you did, you would know that anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

> same butthurt leafcuck spamming threads while the tears roll

How does it feel to be that inferior to us?

Actually the graph shows that you're inferior.

>AFL

> your thread
> your

Kys

Where do any of these graphs indicate intelligence?

> le graph with no le source data shows we le better

Yeah no, Cuckada is a shithole

education doesn't mean intelligence. in fact, those may as well be "indoctrination" charts.

Yeah I was pretty sad when she lost in 2008.

Hopefully this year the intelligent candidate will win.

Thanks God, Murrica doesn't have a free higher education. That is how Trump gonna win.

Now post voters by annual income. Middle classclass -the people that do jobs that actually need intelligence - support trump.

Hillary Clinton is definitely very intelligent. A shame she never once in her life used her intelligence to make the world a better place. Instead she used it to become one of the most corrupt and power hungry politicians the world has ever seen.

>read first two lines of post
>look at flag

>middle class jobs need intelligence

Why you didn't show the polling by income?

I can well believe that every single Women's Studies graduate is voting for Hillary.

Let's see the breakdown for BAME shall we? Or even Medicine?

Half of all modern degrees are a joke, a means to keep the unemployment figures lowered for reports.

The only thing it proves is smart people are stupid, leaf google.

Every day, every night, every hour, you spout this dreadful bait just to have it repeated to you for the thousandth time that gender studies is not a relevant degree.

Go back to crying about your AI gf, please, anything, but you leafs are just being insufferable right now. Maybe it's just all the praise us Aussies have been getting thats making you take your shitposting to the next level? One day Kek will have the lot of you range banned and the board will prosper.

A. Fucking. Leaf.

You can't even read, moron.
4 or 6 YEAR degrees.

Thanks for proving how stupid Clinton supporters are.

Don't get mad at me, get mad at the poll.

> being this cucked
> leaf

Why do you continue living?

>statistics and facts are cucked

k

Just like Youtube 'rebalances' likes/dislikes in order to be more 'fair', google manipulates search results, facebook suppresses conservative news, and tv networks present an unashamedly biased view, etc, media controlled polls are no longer reliable. Less than 6% of Americans trust the media anymore, due to their biased presentation.

Observable indicators that the media can not control nor manipulate tell a completely different story.

Organic polls that are not media-controlled, show universally that Trump is in the lead.

Rallies are a good indicator; 10s of 1000s of attendees at Trump rallies, with Clinton rallies unable to cough up even 200 people.

Drive across the country; there are 100 Trump signs out to every 1 of Clintons.

Pro-Trump/anti-Clinton books on Amazon are best sellers. Pro Clinton books on Amazon just sit.

Anyone with eyes to see, can tell the media controlled polls are likely 'rebalancing' a huge Trump lead. Perhaps media can continue to hide the color of criminals, present pro-muslim, and call burning, looting and rioting 'protests', but they won't be able to hide Trump's wide lead forever.

Here's an organic, worldwide poll for the election. Take a look...if you dare..and see what the media is hiding about Trump support.

worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/results

Man, look at all them sources. It's fucking source-topia in here. Sources raining from the sky itself.

Hello, CTR.

this just shows that college brainwashes you to not think for yourself

another example of Hillary insulting half of the voting block which is exactly why she will lose

sage

...

College= Intelligence

OP confirmed as a college grad working at mcdicks thinking he is so much better then everyone else with his degree and back load of debt

>Trump is only winning thanks to low-IQ genetic waste
>Trump is only winning
>Trump winning
>winning

Feels good man

Indoctrinated virtue signalers support Clinto, what a surprise.


How about this. Let's have an IQ to qualify for voting, or written test or pol tax, or must be property owner etc etc

>Leaf is advocating for an IQ test for voting
I am ok with this

show me a chart of post grad doc holders.

Nobody who understands the implications to US national Sovereignty and values what their forefathers fought bled ,sweated and died to win them could ever vote for a person who belongs to a group of thinkers who hope to eliminate their nations individual identity to merge it with a global form of governance stripping your fellow citizens of their god given liberties and making us a Canada tier slave race.

I never said that he wasn't winning.

the average middle class IQ is 120.

middle class is significantly above average. they're the top 10%.

>College grad or up

>Supports Clinton

Well looks like liberals are the party of the wealthy, connected, and privileged.

This has been a talking point from your friendly honorable Aryan.

KEKED

>no reply

>making us a Canada tier slave race.

Feels bad bro

Fucking King Cuck is trying to pass a law that we would have to follow the UN gun laws which means say goodbye to all semi-autos

Fuck this place is a hellhole don't believe anyone who says diff. Brainwashed bunch of cucks who almost die if they see a gun.

Most "college grad" is arts and muh feminist studies.
Hardly a surprising result.

People with college degrees work around cry babies. If they openly supported trump, they risk getting fired.
14% of those called didn't answer for this reason. They are all voting trump. 50 to 50.

And what degrees, might I ask, do these people hold? What field of study?

Someone once said to me 'Well at least I have a degree.' It was in film studies. He was thirty grand in debt, and I was debt free and he was not working in anything to do with film studies.

It's a testament to people's naivete and shallowness that merely having a 'degree' makes you intelligent. What this graph shows is: Quantity over Quality.

If you are a trade master race then you support Trump.

>tfw college grad in an actual degree (physics) and support Trump

Guess I'm a minority hehe I need gibs because I'm not being represented.

The left: Champions of a fantasy working class that is liberal, obedient and grateful.

But really fucking hate the working class.

rekt

Kek leaf getting Emprired

Common core becomes a thing.

The result is a standard in which the main objective of school isn't to land kids a job, or even make them think about a career they would like, but to make them all go to college whether or not they know what to do with their lives.

The increase in college demand leads to an increase in tuition costs, which, along with the higher influx students, many of whom find out thousands of dollars in that they don't need or want college, increases the drop out rate.

Colleges appeal to the social justice movement to keep some of these potential drop outs by telling them to pursue a degree that changes the world instead of giving them a job.

In come gender studies, multicultural, an increased range of philosophy majors that do not require logic classes, etc. etc.

Colleges have set up a great scam, but the kids who go for other degrees mgiht see through the ruse. Colleges shift the blame of tuition costs to our lack of a socialist government- to the right wing, the patriarchy, the straight cis white males who make decisions for us. Meanwhile the same professors telling people to fight the capitalist, racist, sexist system are raking in cash from all the SJWs who wont get jobs when they're out of breath shouting at the wall.

Kids graduate or drop out of college angry at the wrong thing. Socialism is what makes them unable to get a job; socialism is what caused their tuition rates to climb; socialism is why they have no idea what they should be mad at. Socialism is why college grads are both underemployed and liberal.

The solution- end common core. End education at the federal level. Let each state make its own standards, written by board members, district officials, and educators who know the local state's economy. The standardized system tried to coddle every child telling them they can be great, and the result is higher loan debt, higher tuition costs, and an overall less accessible system than the one we used to have.

Being in uni it's hilarious replying "I actually voted leave" or "I actually love Trump" when people try to virtue signal liberal bullshit to me.

Also it's funny seeing champagne socialists shitting on the working class for not thinking like them. Shows that they really care about the proletariat.

By that logic parrots should vote too if that what constitutes as smart

Delete this

Many People with a high intellect get kicked out of schools and have bad grades.
School Education ist based on repeating Information instead of learning useful Information.

Everybody knows dump Students and intelligent "worker".

It's interesting to see here, on the bottom of society, that this lower class people split in 2 completely different kinds.

>ultradumb nigger
>genius with bad luck in life

>Lives in Canada
>My gun rights!

Grow up and find another hobby. You couldn't stand up to tyranny any more than you can stand up to a strong wind.

Stop it with the lets-make-believe heroism and admit you like bright lights and loud noises.

Go buy a flashlight and stereo. Your self-defense fantasies are making us look bad.

It's 45-55 college grads. 45% of college grads are voting Trump. What's your point?

>making us look bad.
look bad to whom? Degenerate globalist cucks? You're hopeless.

Cuck cuck cuck

I make us look bad lol

Go suck a cock faggot, you are whats wrong with this country, I bet you think the police are evil but they should be the only ones with guns right

College grads also overwhelmingly supported the USSR.

Higher education is not necessarily positively correlated with intelligence.

>"Our education is shit"
>"I can't believe people are actually voting for Trump!"
Like pottery.

This, i am not even that smart 120-130 IQ but my highschool couldn't handle my questioning so I dropped out and went to junior college. I needed up getting a philosophy degree from a popular state.

I love guns, but I realize that in contemporary society they are just toys for big children.

If you need something long and thin to put in your asshole, they make dildos.

> inb4 muh blued steel

Call me a cuck all you want, I'll be over here benefitting massively the advances given to us by open trade in commodities, technology, and information.

>liberals still haven't figured out intelligence and (((education))) not only inversely correlate, but everyone knows it
maybe it's their (((intelligence))) showing them a different (((truth)))

This.

Literally only poor faggots and women vote for Hillary.

>uneducated white men

This is the demographic that overwhelmingly composes the skilled tradesmen who make this world go round.

They are the foremen who whip illegal alien crews into getting shit done, the are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, mechanics, handy-men, self taught engineers, basically, the type of man that makes faggots like you piss their pants and run to reddit/university to feel the comfort of your safe-space echo-chamber.

Before the French Revolution and the following 150+ years of Jewish propaganda and cultural warfare, the values and lifestyles of these "uneducated white men" were the gold standard of society for anyone born of good stock.

You know, people who actually do shit. You are not and will never be one of those people, outside of your compulsory status as a shill.

Generally speaking
high intelligence = high income

generally speaking

high wealth = high income

Few current millionaires and billionaires are self-made.

The few exceptions are intelligent, but also predominately liberal.

> sad tuba from The Price is Right

then why do such wealthy intelligent people find the prospect of having their wealth at death taxed at 65% substantially depriving any heirs of much of their bequest a supportable position?

If nothing else Killery's policies should be anathema to the wealthy.

There really is no definable substance to such types support for Clinton.. its all just a head trip.. progressive egoist fascination with appearing iconoclastic ..essentially 'muh vagina'

Barely an edge, my school's entire Engineering and STEM related departments and labs are overwhelmingly republican. Most degrees being music and art and sociology might have a bit to do with it.

>Dur majors where we brainwash students and rob them blind and blame republicans are more likely to be subdued by our years of propaganda than people that don't go through it.
> BTFO you stupid republicans.

Also, aren't Democrats enthusiastically the party of the poor uneducated? Why don't you want to represent poor or uneducated people as soon as they are white?

All Donald Trump supporters are underage brainlets raging against the machine. Wild teen donkeys.

> benefitting massively the advances given to us by open trade in commodities, technology, and information.

Globalist shill confirmed
Willing to give up your freedoms for some imagined gain
Why do you think we have to give up everything for that stuff, I mean free trade and all that has done this country so much good.
Fucking retarded get your head out of your ass for once in your life, the economy in this country shrunk by 1.6% last quarter( and that is what they admit), tell me again how we are doing so good.
Pic. related you and this country in a nut shell.

If you play the game you do just fine.

I "gave up" my ability to piss and moan in my mothers basement when I got a job.

Now I get to have 90,000 a year at my entry level position. I'm 23 years old.

Sometimes you have to "give up" something that is fucking useless anyway to get a better thing.

I know, it's crazy that I would give up my right to loud toys and fuckin watch the world burn, but I look out my window and I see the very same sawtooth of incremental growth that's been going on since... ever?

Since the dawn of civilization?

The economy lost 1.6% and you expect my to cry? You of all people are going to start asking me to give a fuck about something that's not myself?

This is what I'm talking about. You're not the future, you're just loud, petulant counter-culture hipsters.

If it's the thing that's popular you've gotta be against it.

>fucking normies
>cucks

All you can do is look at people who are better off than you and complain. You've got no drive, no determination to figure out how to do better.

You just cry jew conspiracy and pretend that your problems are something to do with degeneracy and/or racemixing.

Your problems are due to a lack of ability, insight, and determination to succeed.

PapaTrump will tell you that America's not great anymore because of the gaht dang moosleemz

It's not great anymore because, even more than the fucking SJW feminist studies kids you whine about YOU don't contribute enough to society to keep shit running.

You want to live in America so badly? Go there, because if I were in the USA I would certainly move the fuck out to move to one of the most consistently top-rated countries in the world.

I'm gonna stay up here, true north, strong, and (yes) fuckin free, enjoying the huge freedom while giving away a tiny piece of it to keep from reading about how many preschoolers got shot up today.

Educated ≠ Intelligent.

>the indoctrinated liberal demographics are voting for the candidate they've been indoctrinated to vote for
Color me surprised

If going to college supposedly means you're intelligent, they why do so many people do degrees is philosophy and gender studies?

No one does more damage that intellectuals that think they know better than everyone else.

top tier bait

>90k at 23
>after being NEET

rich people vote republican... for obvious reasons... its always been like that..

Ok people, it is 6:00am where I live and I am freaking the fuck out.
WTF with Trump being so close in the polls? How is this even a thing? What the FUCK is wrong with our country???
Im 42 fucking years old and I swear to God I have never been more scared about our country than right now.
I had no fucking idea there were so many racist, misogynist, assholes. No fucking idea. Oh sure, I figured there were like maybe 10% of people who could vote that were "deplorables". But it is almost 50%!!!! How is this even an option???
How did this happen????

>a leaf making salient points

Is this bizarro-pol?

does this mean the "educated" cannot not see obvious corruption? is this s sign of being a sheltered suburbanite?

Lived with parents, got a degree in robotics and welding.

Voted NDP.

>such a fucking stretch of the imagination.

>i never said that he wasn't winning.

Leave it up to a fucking leaf to use a double negative.

>Sometimes you have to "give up"

wow hes right time to shut it down and be slaves

subjective assertion
also baseless
also inverse holier than thou fallacy

only an Idiot would think that you absolutely need university to be "intelligent"

>Now I get to have 90,000 a year at my entry level position. I'm 23 years old.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>Look at me I'm projecting

First it's your guns
Then it's your freedom of assemble
then it's freedom of the press(like that's not gone already)

I bet you agree with this pic ya

Another one of those incremental growth things right

You are a slave and will always be a slave, enjoy your chains

Your non-pozzed prairie provinces are welcome to join America.

The U.S. wont ever give up our guns. Whether the world thinks its crazy or not, the fact is that violence has only increased wherever we've done so. Chicago is the best example of this. Most of the shootings on tv took place in Democratic states, and many in places where people wouldn't have guns- like government buildings and schools. On top of all that, the U.S. doesn't have a good history of prohibition- taking alcohol away was a disaster, good luck trying to forcefully take away guns.

That said background checks for criminal activity, mental illness, and terrorist links make perfect sense.

Please explain how $35k to $75k is "rich". The $75k+ group is fairly evenly split.

This has nothing to do with intelligence or how much education you have. Colleges are very liberal in nature and being exposed to that environment is obviously going to affect you in ways that will influence your political affiliation.

Fucking leaf

If they are smart why aren't they rich?

;^)

>degree in robots and welding

could you meme a little harder

Since nobody else is going to do it, let's walk this out together. Cred Forums

You've got a whole board of people complaining that the world won't give them every single thing they want at no cost to them and at great cost to everyone else.

Then that same board complains about feminists and welfare queens?

What even the fuck this is?

You're gonna tell me that I'm an idiot for my liberal values when I've given an unnoticeably small amount of ground and now I get to be at the adult table?

I don't see how any of this makes sense. You're no different than the kids in the leather trenchcoats trying to look "cool" and then wondering why girls won't fuck them.

You don't get anywhere by playing by your own rules. The things you think you deserve are things that are actually given to you as compensation for participating in society.

If you don't want to give up any of your precious values, then expect to be left out.

Just like if you want to only talk about anime and stomp around in your fucking rawhide duster, you're not gonna have a lot of friends.

It's a social economy and it doesn't work if you have nothing to trade. You're unlikeable, unfuckable, and unusable. You offer nothing, you receive nothing. Simple as that.

What exactly can you learn in college that you can't learn from reading books? Congrats you're 50k in debt and dislike Trump.

I can't handle all this edge.

>Subhuman garbage detected

The paper that prove you """know""" your shit. Fucking HR people not recognizing your ability if you didn't get that debt like they did.

Not an argument.

>a fucking leaf

>this fuckin guy

>Cannot fathom a person being happy or successful
>Accuses them of projecting

I also dig how you assume that I want to do away with all of my rights because I believe that my right to play with toys that go boom is something I can stand to lose, I will give up everything else.

I'll lay it all out for you.

Idiots with words don't kill people. Idiots with guns do.

The press fucked itself. This wasn't censorship, this was just the sad decline of an industry that failed to adjust to the digital age.

Maybe if you stop imagining nefarious intent everywhere you look, for just a moment, you'll realize that most people just want to be happy.

Being happy doesn't mean you need to make someone else sad, it just means that you erect the rules in such a way that people are happy.

Some people will CHOOSE to be sad, but they will always have Cred Forums

This has got to be some shitposter on a leaf proxy

>degree in robot welding
>if you don't give up your values you don't deserve a place in society

Thanks brother

I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be arguing at this point.

The whole board is just a poorly choreographed moving of the goal posts.

kys

>has never heard of compromise

>does not realize some jobs are better than working at McDonalds

This doesn't take into account college graduates having arts degrees. Just because you have a degree doesn't mean you know a lot about politics.

Also, it shows that there are some college graduates that support Trump too.

Canada, this is why your country is the running joke of the western world. Libtards have to try and use these pathetic "studies" to try and prove that they're intelligent, because what they believe is completely contrary.

Your beliefs are fucking stupid on their face. They're fucking backwards, failed ideas, all of them, regardless of how many liberal professors you get to run polls trying to make you smart.

It's fucking sad that you can't rely on the integrity of your political beliefs to "prove" you're smart, and instead have to try and convince people through these endless hilarious studies that everybody laughs at.

Goddamn I'm happy to be a conservative. Liberals are so pathetic it's literally sad.

How "intelligent" is it to back a candidate that's been proven incompetent and corrupt, but not prosecuted by an even more incompetent and corrupt FBI?

How "intelligent" is it to back a candidate that's reckless, warlike, and dangerous to American national security and backs foreign policies that make things worse and cause floods of refugees and insurgent uprisings?

How "intelligent" is it to back a candidate who embezzles millions of dollars, sells her office to the highest bidder for favor and perks, and participates in the fake race-baiting designed to inflame the emotions of minorities and cause hatred of the police, all based on lies that are disproven easily by statistics and reality?

Man you guys certainly are intelligent! How do I get some of that intelligence?!

>Idiots with words don't kill people. Idiots with guns do.
So do idiots with knives, explosives, motor vehicles, fertilizer, poison, etc.
>most people just want to be happy.
And some of those people will only be happy at my expense. Everyone has the right to the PURSUIT of happiness, but not a right to happiness itself.
>it just means that you erect the rules in such a way that people are happy.
Rules or laws aren't established to ensure happiness. They are established to ensure equitable application and to discourage people from usurping the rights of others.

You still think that government has a stake or interest in keeping the citizenry happy. It's categorically terrible at that. Only the citizens themselves have the motive to pursue their own happiness. Trusting anyone else to do that for them is naive.

kek tertiary google reveals that it exists at other schools too!

conestogac.on.ca/fulltime/manufacturing-engineering-technology-welding-and-robotics

Confirmed CTR shill thread. Sage and report

Anyone can be stupid. To be a complete fool requires a graduate degree.

Why are you here then man
Go back to what ever shithole you came from where everyone agrees with you

You are arguing that it is okay to give up your rights

>B-but we're smart because this p-poll says so! Don't mind that what we actually believe is failed, dangerous trash and our candidate is the most corrupt and evil politician America has ever seen!

>Look at this poll! It proves it! We're smart you're dumb lalala!

Liberals, everybody. Observe the mental disease.

wikileaks

You actually raise some good points here. I disagree with some of them, but you don't just spit venom, so that's a plus.

Guns are not anything more than toys. You've already lost the war against tyranny. It's just the facts. You'll get F35'd into space, so let's not pretend it's more than a hobby.

The self-defense fantasies are sad and it is actually really lame. Might as well start a katana collection for self-defense. Yes sometimes a good guy might shoot a bad guy, but mostly people shoot themselves or their families.

2nd point, I agree with your pursuit of happiness point to an extent, but I really genuinely do not believe that most people are bad and out to suck the life out of you. Probably you are overestimating the threats around you.

As for part three, you're actually almost completely correct. That was a poorly thought out argument by me and I'll bow out completely from that bit.

My only reservation is that if most people want to be happy, and the government is by and for the people, then if follows that the government should at least lean toward making people happy.

when we slam our baseball bats against the communists heads what will their iq be then?

One would think if you were of high intelligence you would be able to produce a higher income....

This is just because in the past 10 years, it went from 60-40 men women college degrees to 40-60 due to years of special programs and lowering the bar for women

The modern education system is a jewish brainwash factory.

Typically people without higher education entered the work-force earlier in life, or know a trade. Their opinion is more valuable because they have functional knowledge, rather than hypothetical knowledge.

So what you're saying is that the proletariat supports Trump?

College Education, for the majority of people who obtain it, is a sign of a lack of intelligence.

I think it says more about what "college education" really is, that a notable majority within that spectrum only support communistic presidential candidates.

University is a re-education camp. An indoctrination center, and all you are doing is proving that.

lmao please tell me how much someone in the 90th percentile of income makes?

95th?

Where did all this straw come from?

I mean, kinda? But not really. I'm arguing that there is some degree of limitation on activity that is wise if we want to ensure some kind of utilitarian "better world."

Further, I think that some places already have that pretty much down. For instance Canada. Where we enjoy most of the same rights as the United States, but have a lot fewer deaths by bullshit.

Sure our super-rich aren't quite as super-rich, but hell the average person is better off. It's almost like there is a balance between pure capitalism and pure socialism.

It's almost like we've found a pretty good place to hang out for a while and live fulfilling lives and see some art and beautiful landscapes and not worry if things are gonna end in terrifying disaster all the time.

Some of us (You) still CHOOSE to see the worst in everything, but those that don't actually have a pretty good time. We drink a few brews on the weekend, fuck our girlfriends, and work in industries where we do interesting things like work on nuclear power plants.

Life, it seems, ain't so fuckin bad to be a canadian.

What's up with all these foreign people trying to get involved in our election? I was rooting for Brexit but could care less because it's on the other side of the planet. And all Canadian posters should just be banned due to shitty content. Nothing good comes out of that country except Crown Royale

Ahh you are saying you got a degree in manufacturing and you are for free trade?

Enjoy your job will it last(if you do have one), this country has lost more jobs to free trade then we will ever get back

>You've already lost the war against tyranny

So your answer to that is to give up roll over like a dog, I am glad my ancestors and yours had more courage then you do or we would still be ruled over by kings

Hillary and Bill are rich as fuck and they do not vote Republican.

Bill Gates doesn't vote republican.

General Electric literally the richest corporation in the world owns and funds MSNBC, which never supports republican candidates.

Crown Royal is garbage. Get some 40 Creek in your life.

We are intrinsically interested because you have the biggest economy to heave around.

>EVERY
>FUCKING
>TIME

No. Rich people vote Democrat, because the Democrat platform is to "equalize" the poor, to make being poor a "good thing," and then ban the poor from ever not being poor.

Republicans think poor people should be able to become rich, so already rich people are less likely to support their view, from a survivalist standpoint, if it's harder for others to do what you did to become rich, your position in life is more secure.

Some dude becomes rich polluting the environment, then, once rich, has a "change of conscious" and uses his money to lobby to make whatever he did to obtain wealth illegal for others to do.

That's what being a liberal is really all about.

most college graduates are voting hillary because of college debt and they still hope that she will cease their debts,also because of women studies graduates(which are most dumb as a rock) and liberal arts majors

cherry pickign examples that support your argument does not make you right.

Just look at the data, the top 20 percent of income votes republican way mroe than dem.

its always been like thats

Congratulations, I'm glad that you believe that people who happen to have been born into circumstances that limited their ability to either pay for, attend or meet the requirements to attend tertiary education should be deprived of any and all choice in their own futures.

I'm sure the orphans, the poor, those living in rural areas, ethnic, religious and social minorities who were born into circumstances over which they had no control should be simply termed "genetic waste" and be trampled into the earth.

Moving along from there, the self taught need to clearly not be allowed to have any representation, tradespeople, craftsmen, women above a certain age because universities wouldn't accept them along with people who chose to be housewives or househusbands within their own generation and of their own choice. I guess they don't need a choice either and your eugenics bus will just pick them up too.

I sure hope that you leave at least one plumber because you're full of crap.

Bruv, the tyranny would be impossible to fight, but it's a good thing that (spoilers) there ain't no jackboots marching down my street.

If there was something to resist, you would have bigger problems than your 4 round magazine cap. You have larger issues to contend with than a lack of sufficiently short small arms.

I appreciate your ability to punch the shadow of my arguments all the time, but you're just swinging at the ground my dude.

>Cucknadian with all the life experience of a bar fly clutches his wimminz studiez degree and weeps

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>i have 200,000.00 in debt and liberal candidate says she'll remove my debt but the conservative candidate says i entered into an agreement and it's my honest responsibility to pay it back.
FTFY

All you are doing is demonstrating how Hillary is tricking stupid college students, who were already dumb enough to go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt and so shouldn't be taken seriously at all, into thinking she'll erase that debt for them if only they elect her president.

The term is called "useful idiots." Even when she does become president, that'll just be an unfulfilled promise.

also, you forgot to point out that a "job in manufacturing" actually means "a job that bridges the gap between a skilled trade and a STEM career"

Look for the gap in your economy, fill it, then keep getting more education so that you can edge out competition.

It's actually for real not that hard.

The reason why liberals have higher iq on average is because they've gone through the college liberal brainwashing. If colleges taught conservative values, Democrats wouldn't have a voting base.

It's really that simple.

>implying you can't be part of the 36.7% of college graduates supporting Trump

I've seen you post this shit bait about 30 times now, leaf. Don't you ever get tired?

This just shows that it should be illegal for the state to use university as a defacto mass indoctrination center.

A fucking leaf

Before we get to the "hurr durr ur dumb" think about it.

People without college degrees or wathever you call it in the US will end up in trades, creating some small bussiness or working for the lowest wages at the closest oportunities.

These people have clear disadvantages over the "elite workers", they can't leave their country, maybe they can't even leave their city, they can't save money and are more exposed to small local crisis and unless they want to do big bets with their own future, they're stuck as they are.

That means that they live in a labor market that is 1860 level of competivity and conditions, if they ever get a job they have to thank to whoever gave it to them since they know that it was pure luck that the employer chose him over the other 10.000 aplicants. Now, what do you think happens when jamal/Jose comes over and says that they will work for almost nothing and make as much extra hours as needed without complaining and of course they can do it, they're desperate and the employer, unless he is nationalistic or something, doesn't give a shit over the who does the job, at least at this level.

So these people, that would usually be law abiding citizens like anybody else, will find themselves in a market with an excess of work offer and no way to increase their value since they can't save money to add worthwile things to their CV, so their only option is to either get in the same level as Jamal/Jose or wait until "things get better", and as you can expect he can't actually do the last.

So, if you were a person that was barely making money for himself and suddenly finds hiimself of a situation similar to a prostitute, you would be angry, right? Truly angry, and then appears this man that is saying that will not only kick jamal/jose out of their posts but also create economic protective barriers so what happened to you never happens again and suddenly you see some hope at the end.

Thats what Trump is, hope for the US citizens.

>Guns are not anything more than toys.
Guns represent autonomy and individual sovereignty. Any society that doesn't consider the right to own firearms to be worth respecting doesn't respect the rights of the individual citizen.
>You've already lost the war against tyranny.
Oh, so I should just roll over and die without a fight then?
>You'll get F35'd into space
Perhaps, just perhaps, there's a sizeable portion of the military that won't follow the orders given to them directing them to slaughter their fellow citizens. And perhaps the citizenry having arms will enable them to seize military resources with which ti fight back.

The whole point of the 2nd Amendment according to its 4 authors was to act as a check against the thread of a standing army.

>The self-defense fantasies are sad and it is actually really lame.
It's not a fantasy and it's not just about protecting from other citizens. I also currently live and have lived in areas with wildlife that it would be foolish to live amongst without owning some firearms. Especially so if said animals can contract rabies.

>Yes sometimes a good guy might shoot a bad guy
Protip: You are simply outsourcing your right to self defense to a substitute "good guy" who is otherwise known as a police officer.

>but mostly people shoot themselves or their families.
You're conflating the reality that most homicide of every type take place between people who know each other, with statistical probabilities of increased risk of negligence as a result of owning a specific item. Just like owning a pool increases the risk of drowning.

>I really genuinely do not believe that most people are bad and out to suck the life out of you.
Me either. But I was referring more to you specifically. You want to curtail my rights based on your opinions. You sacrifice nothing and lose nothing because it's a right that you personally do not value. That's your choice to make for yourself, but not one for you to make for me.

Your argument is to be a slave, that you and your kind know what is best for me, that I should trust some bureaucrat in the UN to make the best decisions for me, ya no keep that shit for yourself and it's more than clear that you enjoy being a slave

>Bruv, the tyranny would be impossible to fight

Has been said many times in the past and proved to not be true

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>people without college degrees will end up
They often end up very rich, this isn't bongistan.

Public Education is indoctrination. The poorly paid teacher teaching your kid is less intelligent and less capable of teaching your kid than you are.

The state encourages this bad behavior because it benefits the state, not because it benefits the individuals in school.

>Probably you are overestimating the threats around you.
And maybe you have no survival instincts. And maybe you don't have the same risks in your life that I do. And maybe you live in circumstances very different from mine.

Not everyone is you. Not everyone is as oblivious as you either. But you're more than willing to infer that what's good for you is good for me too. Because again, you have an authoritarian bent on certain topics whether you want to admit to it or not.

>My only reservation is that if most people want to be happy, and the government is by and for the people, then if follows that the government should at least lean toward making people happy.

Or perhaps it should stop attempting to make people happy and just loosen the reigns so that they can do the work of pursuing happiness on their own. If each individual doesn't know how to pursue happiness on their own, nobody else is going to be better equipped to do it for them.

What makes me happy isn't always the same thing that makes my wife happy. Or my parents happy. Or my siblings happy.
Happiness isn't a one-size-fits-all object. And many people are happier at a far lower threshold of obtainment than others.

Some people only need or want their base desires and physical needs met. But others obsess over higher rungs in Maslow's hierarchy of needs that other people wouldn't bother to be so pedantic over.

It's my opinion that Liberals have become exceedingly obsessed over minutia that doesn't actually impact anyone and as a result have lost sight of real actual societal issues that impact everyone.

>They often end up very rich, this isn't bongistan.

Maybe before 2008, but I seriosly doubt that there is any real social mobility after a financial crisis(that is one of the roles in society of the banks)

>cherry pickign examples that support your argument does not make you right
No, but it does undercut any unilateral claims previously made that rich = republican

You can doubt it all you want but I've both experienced and witnessed it.

After the 2008 crisis liberals imposed a lot of laws that attempt to remove upward mobility, under the guise of "it's good to be poor!" though.

Oh look, it's another "liberal intellectuals" thread.

Why don't you look at the top 1% wealth bracket.

Being in the 80th percentile of wealth is VERY different from being in the top 10%, 5%, or 1%.

Clinton and Bill are not 80th percentile voters.

The slimiest, richest people in the world, are usually liberal.

Retard Liberals at it again

>thinks being indoctrinated means you're intelligent

This is too hilarious. In almost evey case, the exact opposite is true.

>guns represent
lemme stop ya right there Mr "it's a metaphor" your autonomy is not boxed up in a fuckin glock .40. Should you choose to define it that way you make bad calls. The citizenry is better served by gun control. real shit. You say it yourself later in this post.

>Just roll over
I mean, probably, actually. I admire your nobility but at this point in history you're pretty much fucked. Being realistic w ya d00d. Your peashooters aren't going to fix your Abrams problem.

>perhaps... etc.
if the world is as bad as your NRA bullhonky would suggest, then yes. Us dirty libs are comin for ur guns and the ol guvmint is gonna tell the patriots that joined the military that it's the right thing to do. I suspect you still lose in this scenario, regardles of how much Art of the Dynamic Carbine you've watched.

>bears.png
Again, we're looking at canada for a model in my scenario. practical firearms for stopping large animals exist and I could buy one this afternoon if I so desired. We don't need a vickers gun to drop an angry cougar.

>cops exist
Yep, that's kinda how this works.

>people with guns kill more people with those guns than people without guns
Yes I agree. In fact that's what I said. decrease the availability of guns and force those people to kill with hammers and suddenly you get more amicable divorces.

>Curtailin my riiiiiights
I really don't see how your whole life can be tied up in guns, so you're right, but you're missing the point.

I genuinely doubt that you are a perfectly responsible gun owner.

You know your four rules and shit, but at the end of the day people get angry or drunk and shoot people when they have too many guns around. If I was your neighbour and you shot me you would be curtailing MY right to not get shot.
It's not just about your right to keep and bear arms, it's about the right of other people to be safe. Simply put, the data does not hold up your side of the argument and neither does YOUR argument.
>pools = drowning

Ayyboii

Actual good points in here. Specifically on the Authoritarian bent. Didn't think of it that way.

I've read Rand, I did my time as a right libertarian. I just don't see it borne out by data is all.

The fact that you keep bringing this back to guns as if that will settle all the issues in the world kinda makes me wonder who's worrying about minutia tho.

I agree with you that one size does not always fit all. You got some good points about my world not being your world. I wish we were in a forum more conducive to you and I sharing this information rather than just shitting on one another.

At the end of the day, yeah, my city has some crime, but I'm pretty insulated. My jobs pretty kush and my education was pretty cheap.

I don't worry about my right to shoot guns because I still shoot guns and enjoy it, but I don't see them as anything more than a hobby. In practical application I have never had an opportunity or even heard of an opportunity in the city I live in where any good guy has ever fired a round and struck a bad guy.

It is always bad guy fired round at other bad guy, good guys show up and bad guy turns self in.

Our good guys flashbang a lot of dudes, but the only people doing the killing here are the criminals.

I would love to hear more of your experience so that I can wrap my brain around your position.

Also, to clarify, the criminals have killed a whopping >10 people since january of this year in a city of half a million.

Reading this post gave me cancer.

>The citizenry is better served by gun control.
That's your opinion. But my opinion is that if there is a threat to my personal safety or that of my family, having the tools available to deter or stop that threat as soon as it presents itself has way more utility than depending on someone else to act on my behalf and waiting for that bystander to show up adds more risk to that situation than I'm comfortable with.

>at this point in history you're pretty much fucked.
Perhaps you're ignoring that there are multiple levels of government. And that not all tyranny is insurmountably large.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

>We don't need a vickers gun to drop an angry cougar.

Did i say I did? No. But given that limp-wristed faggots who can't tell the difference between a barrel shroud and a gas-impingement system would be writing these stupid laws, don't bet on them accomplishing anything other than an inconvenience.

You have no statistically accurate argument to provide that these laws accomplish what you claim. There's no consistent relationship between restrictive gun laws and reduced total homicide rates.

There's a variety of laws even within the United States and there's no correlation to be found here.

>Strawmen strawmen strawmen
Go fuck yourself.

>I really don't see how your whole life can be tied up in guns
It's not. But it's a right that's vital to ensuring the continued existence of my other rights. If it goes away, then there's considerably less recourse available for me to protect them.

>I genuinely doubt that you are a perfectly responsible gun owner.
I doubt you've ever used one.

>but at the end of the day people get angry or drunk and shoot people when they have too many guns around
You can make a partial case for suicide. And you can make a case for gang violence and illegal ownership. But there's no case to be made for a link between homicide and legal gun ownership.

means "less than" types "greater than" undermines argument. : (

This proves that just because you have a gender studies degree doesn't mean that you're smart.

>An unintelligent person cannot be courageous, wise, clever, social, or possess any leadership traits
>Being a good orator means you are smart

>defending my family
could you not defend your home with four 12 gauge shells at a time? I just wonder why you need the things you claim to need to accomplish a task such as defending a house against a burglar.

>battle of athens
solid point. I'll give that one to you completely.

>Gun laws don't stop murders
Never said they did, they just make murders slightly more difficult. also Japan is my response. Murder rate of less than 1 per 100,000

I have no guns in my home, but I've shot plenty. I also served as a reservist if that counts for anything in your mind. Guns are fun as shit, but I don't see them as something that is "vital to ensuring the continued existence of your other rights" the jackbooted thugs are not much more than a black helicopter hero fantasy.

>no case for legal gun ownership correlating to homicide
hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

I want to get some of the shit you're saying. I really do, but the fact of the matter is this is tied up so much with the fictionalized story structure behind the American Individualism dogma it's tough to sort out.

>I don't worry about my right to shoot guns because I still shoot guns and enjoy it, but I don't see them as anything more than a hobby. In practical application I have never had an opportunity or even heard of an opportunity in the city I live in where any good guy has ever fired a round and struck a bad guy.
Cities aren't stagnant things, and your perception of safety or the stability of your surroundings could change over time. Or your perspective might change if you move to a city that's less safe and you don't feel as trusting of local law enforcement to provide you protection.

>but the only people doing the killing here are the criminals.
Yeah. And they get their guns illegally. Your laws are not likely to make much of an impact on them.

>I would love to hear more of your experience so that I can wrap my brain around your position.
I don't actually own anything more than a pistol. I've moved 20 times since I was born. The reason I value firearm ownership is because I've been to and lived in enough places to understand that their utility is broad and variable.

If you live in a small town with a low population density, law enforcement isn't available within 45 minutes to do anything for you. So if you have a problem you're on your own.

If you live in a city with an inept police force, you frankly don't want the police showing up mid-event because they won't be of any use to you nor will they be ready to protect you from anything. It's better for them to show up and haul the perp away afterwards.

The whole point of providing multiple layers of government is in recognizing that there are no universal solutions to these problems. And citizens have more direct access to local politicians to address local problems anyways.

Laws that work in certain circumstances are disastrous in incompatible circumstances. Having stringent gun laws in Baltimore clearly isn't doing jack shit. They need to stop banging that drum and try something else.

your poll says nothing about IQ. Just level of education.

I would also like to see what *kind* of education these college grads have. If you have a BA in underwater basket weaving you may as well have not gone to college at all.

"I got a degree in gender studies! I am now officially smarter than that high school drop out steve jobs!"
>t. dogfucker

Obviously you haven't seen the worldwide poll....

Why are you such an idiot? Do you enjoy ignoring facts? Logic? And reasoning? Not to mention literal illegal activities and the death of Americans?

wow... am I being education shamed? check your fucking privilege. RAPE!

I'm just hoping that you guys make america great again.

That would make sense only if liberals were objective, but they're not, and are just pathetic & ironically hilarious.
>muh ideolwogy vs a future for my kids
hm which do i care more about

May as well avoid Cred Forums some more until after Trump is elected. Then the shills can just shill into the ether.

I hate this shit. My brother and me both have above 120 iq and we both went into trades instead of college but we are somehow less intelligent.

That might be because Japan is completely homogeneous, developed culturally, and therefore has little crime to begin with. There's no Jamal there to cause crime

>cities aren't stagnant
I agree, I really don't want to see my city get worse, but it's actually been getting better crime-wise for like 10 years running

>They get their guns illegally
True, but they're just stealing guns that were already here. They're not importing mac-10s, they're stealing weird old collector's items. Genuinely exclusively using revolvers or early 20th-century self-loading pistols.

The cops seize guns from drug busts on the regular and then they put it in the paper. It's all modified shotguns and old handguns. No full auto ever, and almost nothing newer than 25-30 years old.

Your population density point is something I didn't think about though. I'm never more than 5 mins away from a cop. Just the nature of the city I live in. If I had to wait, I would want something available with which to defend myself, but even still I would more readily trust an 870 than a little polymer frame piece.

As for situations that occur outside of the home, all I can say is "wut". We got almost no guns, therefore, no situations in which a gun is a necessary tool. Worst we get is fistfights among drunk idiots. Drug dealers mostly kill themselves and if the gf was gonna stab me she'd have done so by now.

I suppose a ccw would be nice in the event of a mugging, but in that sort of fight I would be more concerned with getting the weapon out of HIS hand than getting mine to shoot him.

thats not new, nor is it representative of anything except maybe liberal brain washing in universities

TFW Just about everyone in my family has a Phd in a scientific or engineering field, and they all support Trump.

>could you not defend your home with four 12 gauge shells at a time?
Maybe I should be able to just pick whatever I want to use? Like I currently do? A .308 is obviously useless for concealed carry or home defense, but would be pretty useful if you own a lot of land and need to explode stumps or kill a moose.
But why should this be a choice that I can't be trusted to make?
I'm already trusted by you and my neighbors to operate a motor vehicle. And those kill 3 times as many bystanders each year as firearms. 8 times more if you're going to consider demographics into the equation.

>Japan
Perhaps Japan has a huge pile of other factors that lower their homicide rate? Say for instance a unified culture as a result of being a much smaller country with a much more homogenous population?
Switzerland is similarly small and has a similarly low homicide rate, but has an extremely high gun ownership rate.

>David Hemenway
The guy has a hard-on for attempting to prove that guns cause everything bad in society. He's also fond of a metric called "FS/S" as a substitute for actually compiling data on gun ownership. But his method for sorting FS/S keeps changing every time he makes a new report. If his proxy were that predictive it wouldn't need so much revision.

He's always shifting his methodology to paint the picture he wants to paint, even if it means "removing outliers" or "updating his model" for FS/S because it doesn't produce consistent outputs that match his premise.

He's also one of many who want to use "Gun Deaths" as a metric proof that gun laws work. Even when the means through which you would try to reduce homicides are not at all similar to the means you would need to use to try to reduce suicides.

He has an agenda and he sticks with it.

oh good. I was wondering when this would finally become the issue in this thread.

>wif no guns how i kill da niggurz?

boy oh boy, I could liberal values up in here for days I suppose, but I know you've got a stormfront quote for every situation.

I struggle to imagine how it must feel to have to categorize assholes into white and black assholes. Generally I prefer to distrust criminals, which in my experience is white dudes who take a fuckton of oxy, not black guys who steal my bike.

Keep calling Americans who dont support Hillary garbage. Please.

Trump will win and there is literally nothing you can do, Leaf. The 100 rehashes of this thread you make day after day will serve no purpose other than venting your own impotent frustration.

You are powerless. As are all your educated idols. With all their brain power, they couldn't even work out a way to win. They couldn't even beat Donald Trump.

The west will now change. Everyone will now copy America. I hope you enjoy your new leaders.

You have lost.

It's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled. Most of these college grads have their ego invested in their own gullibility.

Degrees that actually matter guarantee high income. Face it leaf, your college educated Hillary supporters come straight from some sweet liberal arts major.

>They're not importing mac-10s
That's how most of the guns in the United States end up in areas with stricter laws. They get smuggled in from more lenient states after straw purchases. All the guns in New York City are being bought in Virginia and then moved across state lines.
And that's how criminals in Australia are getting guns. They're smuggling them from other regions. Or improvising them through machining.

But, the average age of a firearm used in a crime tends to be around 15 years.

>handguns
Make up over 80% of all homicides. But there's no way to ban them and the only cities that tried to had those laws struck down.

>We got almost no guns
Canada's per capita firearm ownership isn't actually all that different from the United States. Your Western Territories are likely pushing the average up tremendously though so it's probably something very location specific.

Hillary will fall and snap her neck.

>if only smart people were allowed to vote

College grads are fucking well cucked and indoctrinated.

That must be why she has given u on Ohio. Everyone's going to vote for her. LMAO The ONLY people voting for her are liberal strongholds/retard mills full of trendiest who THINK they are intellectuals. This is beyond Twilight Zone at this point in the game. If she fucks up tonight she is out. Period. They will replace her because she cannot win against Trump.

Cute. Now post the average income of Hillary supporters vs Trump supporters. Make your move, leaf.

>can't I choose?
To a point. in canada we decided to restrict the purchase of concealable weapons and magazines of any respectable size because people were killing each other.

In theory the option still exists, but in a limited capacity. You may use 9mm, but you may only have 10 of them. Someone else fucked that one up for you when they killed a bunch of girls at a french college. That's the mentality and it's kinda working.

Japan is an outlier, sure, but if we're throwing out the outliers, then there goes the swiss.

Canada's murder rate is less than half as high as yours. That has nothing to do with guns? I suspect not.

>Hemenway's methodology
I mean... you're probably right, but your familiarity with the guy makes me suspicious. It smells a lot like you've been researching ways to defeat his arguments. Which is respectable, but you must at least admit that the harder a position is to defend the less likely it is to be true.

If the prevailing expert opinion is that I am wrong, it gives me pause.

I have two bachelor's degrees and most of a master's (all credits, but never finished thesis). I voted for Obama in 2008, didn't vote in 2012, and will be voting for Trump in 2016. College does tend to make you into a liberal, but not all liberals are beyond salvation.

college are brainwashing mills, not surprising one bit

120!? No more like 110-115. That's way WAY too high considering the threshold for "Gifted" falls at 130 and the average American is estimated to have a 100 IQ.

>2 bachelors
>incomplete masters
I would bin your CV in an instant.

My grandad is the dumbest person I have ever known. He never graduated high school, and he works at a trailer park. He supports Hillary, and literally gets triggered when he hears Trump talking.

>Not having 200k in debt from a useless liberal arts degree
>Uneducated and uninformed

Pick one shill.

This is just the logical end result of liberal arrogance and condescension. Most of the country has been and still is an undulating mass of uneducated hillbillies, nesting in the forgotten hills and crevasses of America's disused midsection. For almost twenty years now, liberal politics has been unimpeded because they no longer have to cater to these half-breed morons. Trump has smartly inflamed this situation and re-engaged uneducated, typically apolitical Americans.

I'm not sure why you're making my points for me, but here goes

>they're moving things around.
That's why our laws are federal and not provincial (state)

>Handguns are more criminally useful than long guns
Yes, that why they are a federally restricted firearm and treated differently than other guns.
>lots of Canadian guns
But they're not criminally useful.

You're basically saying that Canada is safer and you don't like that because #freedoms?

I am half as likely as you to get murdered in general, I don't even want to look up gun-murdered because it will just make me sad, but I'm sure it's not looking good for you either.

We make handguns harder to get because they're really good for crimes and we do so on a national scale.

and finally our guns are not really good at killing people because of the legislative restrictions.

I'm... I'm not even trying to be rude, I've just not got a lot left to argue with you about.

That's kind of a cheap shot.

If you don't give us your shekels you are subhuman waste. Good job, Kikes.

At this point I think we can all pretty much agree the left as successfully subverted the American post-secondary education system in order to receive voter support and further their agenda.

Keep protesting for minimum wage to increase to pay for your meme degree unpayable debt you've incurred, faggot.

t. Grade 10

>Canada's murder rate is less than half as high as yours.
Canada doesn't have the predominantly black cities fucking up your homicide rates. The United States has a gang warfare problem. And nobody is ever going to fix it so long as nobody is willing to hold the Black community itself partly responsible for harboring the gangs and excusing their continued existence.

Our homicide rates are very geographically specific to certain locations and demographics. There are no other metrics that correlate consistently. Even population density and income don't correlate as well.
> It smells a lot like you've been researching ways to defeat his arguments.
No, I read any and every study I come across on a variety of topics. Guns are fascinating due to how polarizing they are and how integral they are to history. It's obvious within any given study as to what their assumptions are when they start. And Hemenway's studies are complete garbage in terms of making even a slight effort to find any truth in statistics on that topic.

FS/S if you aren't aware is the proportion of Firearm Suicides to Total Suicides. I've attempted to recreate his results with the same data he claims to have used and I could not reproduce his results.

The question is how will canada survive after Trump sacks Hillary in the debate tonight

>At this point I think we can all pretty much agree that if you support Hillary, you're an intelligent, well informed person and that if you support Trump you're just subhuman garbage.

Way to alienate half the fucking population

Mark my words as a britbong, this election is becoming a repeat of brexit

The political establishment is tripping over itself trying to shit as much as they can on the common people, and the common people are going to stick it to them and vote 'wrong'.

Your butthurt in November will be glorious.

So sucking a teacher's dick and being a gokd little schoolbitch for x years is more important to you than, you know, people who actually make money and get something worthwhile out of their time?

>the common people are going to stick it to them and vote 'wrong'.
Democracy was a mistake, we don't need no water let the motherfucker burn

You = retard

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Cant we just nuke Canada?

I respect your desire to do further research on multiple topics. That's admirable as fuck. I don't do as much of that as I should. I question your potential for objectivity, but I also question the objectivity of those studies so I guess I'm stuck in the middle. I struggle to imagine that Harvard would be so intrinsically biased toward limiting the rights of the American people that they would consistently publish bad studies, but I am probably just another bluepilled cuck shill or something of that ilk.

The black community homicide rate is something that does truly trouble me. It's not as visible a problem in Canada, but we also tend to distribute minorities way better than the USA does. I'm not going to engage in the white supremacy debate because it's simply not biologically real. The prevalence of violence in black communities is objectively a societal problem, not a physical one, so while I agree that the black community needs to do a better job of self-policing, I'm not going to make the jump and say that Canada's White Wonderland is the reason I'm not currently being murdered in gangland warfare.

I suspect if you went a little further and broke it down you would find massive, long-term infrastructure failures in those areas. I also suspect that the murder rate and the amount of education possessed by individual murderers is going to have some significant stories to tell.

I don't like the violence in "black cities" any more than you do, but I also don't have a lot of "black cities" to compare to your because Canada isn't divided into ghettoes and suburbs in quite the same way.

I live in a city that almost has a majority of minorities and even though there's crime, a lot of our criminals are white as fuck. We divide people differently here and those shitty little holes that we put our undesirables in just happen to be equal opportunity.

So the more indoctrinated you are, the more you support the establishment.

That's why Kim Kardashian is so rich.

These people (and that company) are major players in the political game. They don't have to vote, their money and influence speaks for them, they influence others to vote the way that benefits the executives the most.

>current year
>still baiting with intelligence

define "intelligence"

if education = intelligence, explain why 30% of billionaires don't have a college degree.

pretty much this.

a majority of degrees go to non-stem fields (60% men, 75% women), which don't require actual resourcefulness and problem-solving capability and therefore "intelligence".

gr8 b8 m8 8/8

Holy shit. Hold your horses here.

Is it just me or is this an EXTREMELY positive trend for conservatives?

I mean the vast majority of people with 'high school or less' are, well, kids that haven't got there yet (or the working class of course). And the largest portion of 'some college' by far is people still in college.

So this looks to me less like the newest generation is actually more conservative than their parents (which is what I have been reading recently).

Get fucked shillary, if Donald Trump did one thing it was to make not being a liberal okay.