I don't think anyone can conclusively say Trump won last night. That's alright. He didn't need to. And in case anyone thinks that's shilling, it's exactly what I wrote beforehand: → →
What you essentially saw was his A-B testing session, seeing how far he could bend the rules and interrupt her without running afoul of the moderator, and what her demeanor and responses would be like. At the same time, it was obvious that he was winging this debate, like he's winged nearly all his debates. The baseline for both of them has been established. She is seen as the fairly solid fixed fortification, and he is the brutish invader. Only one of these perceptions benefits from change. The Hero's Journey narrative, or ascendancy trend, is primed and ready to exploit.
He showed definite weakspots. Unfortunately for Shillary, those are the same weakspots that everyone has seen for years, i.e., they're not novel, not new, and they have very limited persuasive potential.
Anyone who tells you that this debate was conclusive in anyway, or that people won't tune in for the others, is delusional. Americans love drama. No one in their right mind would miss a chance to see Trump and Shillary go at each other. The audience is locked in to see Trump metamorphisize yet again in front of their eyes.
It's very clear that the person Shillary mocked against didn't think to continually interrupt her memorized speeches or antagonize her. Look for Trump to continue this tactic to a far greater extent. The fact that Vox and others are counting his interruptions shows you that it works.
For anyone who is still obsessed with whether he won or lost, understand this: in the current media environment, there's no losing. There's no winning. No one agrees with or even listens to the other side anymore. Every side is pushing their own agenda. The only way to blow away all that garbage is with an undeniable, clear trend. A trend of continual, unquestionable improvement over 3 debates matters more than any 1 debate. This is a unique situation because unlike any other presidential debate, people are tuning in for the sheer drama, expecting a dumpster fire. They can't not look.
If you still don't understand, look at Kellyanne Conway and how even the left is conceding she's changed Trump for the better. That is a perfect example of trends overwhelming opinion. It's also the reason why Shillary has always trended down: she has no narrative arc to follow, no fate to invest in. That would've worked fine against another rudderless politician. Not Trump.
i can't believe it...... i have to say that every since he descended that golden escalator....... that damn escalator..... i supported trump 100..... even 200%...... but that was so long ago......
after all this time.... looks like they finally got me..... no matter what way you cut it trump got destroyed last night....... and as a result... i just casted my ballot....... for lester hold.....
boys.... sadly i'm a goner..... but go on without me and make me proud........ this will hareby be my last post on this...... uh... website.... until next time boys........
>bullish mexican peso what is it at now, 500 pesos for 1 $? up from 550?
Grayson Reyes
WRONG! *SNIFFS* WRONG!
Daniel White
feels good to get out
Henry Hernandez
CTR'S NEWEST TACTIC IS TO SHUT DOWN ANY DISCUSSION BY CLAIMING IT'S ANTI-TRUMP.
SOME WILL EVEN BLATANTLY SAY "THE NARRATIVE IS THAT TRUMP WON", LIKE IT'S A LIE WE'RE FORCING
DO NOT LET SHILLS EXPLOIT YOUR PARANOIA. THEIR GREATEST WEAPON IS YOU.
Joseph Reyes
Does shilary actually think someone would not vote for trump because of his tax returns, or 40 year old legal disputes? How exactly do these things effect the average citizen? She is so fucking stupid
Owen James
DO NOT DESPAIR TRUMP WILL WIN
Wyatt Gutierrez
better than being a mouth-breather
Samuel Murphy
some more "Mexican Intellectuals?"
how many people originally thought Trump would be the nominee?
Brody Phillips
Remember when Romney landslided the election after winning the first debate?
Easton Morgan
>I'm a retarded southerner who can't read charts
Wyatt Fisher
NAFTA? THE IRAQ WAR?
Jordan Bailey
Check OP, reminder this is a shill split thread
here is what's written:
> >tfw ((kek)) was invented by ((blizzard)) to corrupt Cred Forumsacks and lead us from the light
Migrate to the real thread:
Matthew Martin
actually, everyone except Clinton News Network gave him the unanimous win. fucking retard
Logan Walker
Fuck off pedo. Stop posing pictures of underage girls.
James Brown
>WHY NOT?
Nathaniel Bailey
CIA is himself experiencing a fight club-esque identity crisis. doesn't the mantra "i'm CIA" strike you as the ramblings of a mad man? he uses it to cling to what he thinks, what he HOPES he is. he wants a purpose. he can't be a monolithic singularity like batman, bane or raja ghoul.
we see his instability when he projects it onto his prisoners. the perfect canvases with their silent tongues and blank faces. "who paid you to grab doctor puddle?". as we all know, CIA is himself being paid to grab doctor puddle. he's questioning authority and allegiance. "he didn't fly so good": here he refers to himself in the third person, in an out of body experience. he knows he's slipping, he's doing poorly, this plane trip isn't going to plan. CIA didn't fly so good. "a lot of loyalty for a hired gun". why is he loyal to the CIA, so much so that he considers them one and the same?
and of course, "why does he wear the mask?". CIA doesn't know any more, he doesn't know why he rises every day and wears the mask of a steely-eyed and hardened CIA agent.
and that, my friends, is why he becomes his own bane. think for a moment. CIA and his underlings enter the plane with doctor pavlova, bane, and the mercs. we're seeing all the events from the eyes of CIA. all we really know is that CIA enters and bane leaves. do we know bane entered? of course not! he wore the bag, and CIA/bane left so many corpses on the plane, it isn't hard for him to imagine he is finally free of his law-keeping vessel, having left it with his brother, a representation of the shedding of his other identity. he embraces the bane of his existence.
coupled with the heavy insectile metamorphosis imagery (shedding of the wings, the body of the plane hanging like a cocoon from which bane springs and flys out anew, the blood-sucking and the mosquito man, the body bag being opened like the amniotic sac of an embryo) i think it's fair to say this is entirely canon.
Joseph Jones
WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THE CANDIDATES?
Search and vote for questions about issues that are important to you! The "town hall" debate will feature questions from the Internet -- ABC and CNN moderators agreed to consider the Top 30 questions voted up on this site! Watch the debate right here on Sunday, Oct. 9, at 9pm EDT to find out if they chose yours! NOTE: Questions must not name or allude to a candidate and must be able to be posed to either candidate.
His show is basically Trump General: Safe For TV Edition, so I like him okay. I appreciate how he was one of the earliest voices calling out cuckservatives during Trump's ascension on a network that was overtly hostile to Trump.
Elijah Wilson
>he taks jokes literally japan pls, isnt Godzilla coming after you again this year?
Charles Torres
nobody uses the term "southerner" as a pejorative except dumb yankees who haven't crapped out all their bluepills yet
Owen Cook
Zake Garilaufiunasiksdfeh calling anyone mentally challenged
LOL!!
Charles Fisher
See Abandon fake thread, migrate legally to the non shill thread
Jason Howard
ATTENTION FAGGOTS: There is an ISIS terror cell operating in NY that is executing attacks daily. It is being covered up by the media because if the truth was known it would help trump. We need to keep pushing this. We expose the ISIS attacks in NY and the media coverups and we win this election
→ → →
About a week ago Anonymous5 said ISIS attacks would be covered up with terms like "Gas Leak" and "fireworks".
Today the fucking Chief of the NY fire department was assassinated in a mysterious explosion caused by "Gas leak"
This is the newest in an avalanche of ISIS attacks in America over the past week. American media is covering up the connection between these attacks in order to help Obama/Clinton.
If you are in NY, be safe. There is an active ISIS cell that is being covered up by the media.
Hudson Brown
This is real CTR, shutting down discussion.
Jackson Flores
No.
Shillcon 2
Benjamin Adams
BONG! *SIPS TEA* BONG!
Nicholas Garcia
...
Brody Lee
You guys are posting at the shill thread, read OP, some bullshit about deities
Migrate legally to the real thread
CTR is surely trying to split today
Luis Cooper
Media is using same tactics against Trump that they did against Bernie.Flood MSM with a million articles saying Clinton won despite what people actually think.
How fucking lazy are these people? You'd think they would come up with new tactics. I mean shit, even the dumbest liberal can see straight through this.
Charles Powell
fuck off shill, stop trying to split.
Juan Davis
...
Christopher Kelly
Stop caring about online polls, they are awful.
Most of Hillary's supporters don't know how to read, of course they can't vote in an online poll. They do know however how to vote, and that's what matters.
Asher White
>bernouts have been raped by Hillary >TWICE
poor bastards
Jeremiah Moore
Can we get the press to attack him on this?
Julian Murphy
Reminder that Trump didn't have to win debate points, he only needed to show people that he isn't literally Hitler. He did that and did it well.
Hillary didn't need to win debate points, she needed to prove she wasn't a scripted puppet of the establishment. She went for debate points instead with cheesy, scripted one-way liners without substance.
She won the game she thought she was playing. But she is losing the game that's actually on the table.
Brandon Gray
This. I found it kind of a let-down because neither side did anything new and neither side "won".
Nonetheless, there are still lefty wet-wipe newspapers screeching that Clinton won, but that was to be expected.
This will be the reaction when wolf blitzer reads that famous like we are now projecting Trump to become POTUS.. GLORIOUS.. USA USA USA youtu.be/jbn3rOPmR9w?t=34
Michael Reyes
Don't know which /trumpgen/ thread is shill or not so posting in both
Really good analysis that tears into Hillary, share it
Threadly reminder that people all over the country believe Trump won the debate, the shills are making it look more doom and gloom than it is.
Keep clicking polls, keep tweeting the trending hashtags and get the truth out there!
David Hernandez
My post office keeps delivering my family's mail to the wrong addresses. My brother almost never got his half of the insurance money awarded to the two of us when my mother died.
Make USPS Great Again.
Jaxson Long
I tried to explain this to my parents and friends last night by saying "Trump loves the character arc". They were disappointed he didn't hit her harder on certain points. Mind you, they are all fairly high information anti-clinton voters. Among low info and not necessarilyTrump supporting people online and IRL, I have been pleasantly surprised at their reactions to his performance.
Jose Gutierrez
we knew this was coming
next will be media polls oversampling dems again showing Trump is crashing
we don't believe it and we don't care
President Trump incoming
Sebastian Rogers
Listening to Hannity right now and a caller just brought up Cred Forums.
We mainstream now.
Adam Adams
Ever travel by aeroplane? Then you'll know how the air in the cabin can affect your nasal passage. Now imagine spending as much time in one as Trump has during his campaign. Perhaps he needs to stay home more and sleep - just like Clinton's whole campaign - but he won't because he has work to do. Go fuck yourself, weakling.
Kayden Morgan
Really? What did he say?
Brandon Watson
SING BASED NASHEEDS
TAKBIRRRR
'UMMATY QAD LAHA FAJRUN
Jacob Morgan
>Zacharius Joy Galifianakis >Joy Name your male child Joy and be surprized when you raise a faggot.