In reality, the far-right/radical-right/hard-right (whatever you want to call us), has far more ideological commonalities with Islam than the Western left and perhaps even with the Western moderate-right.
We share the same attitudes on gender-relations, sexual conduct, aversion to liberalism, respect for authority and adherence to traditions.
Most criticisms of Islam in contemporary political discussion are from a left-wing framework. For example, "Muslims reject homosexuality", or, "Muslims treat women terribly". These sounds pretty pathetic to me.
On what grounds are the far-right supposed to criticize Islam, then? A nationalist might say, "every group has their right to a homeland but Islam already has its part of the world (between Morocco and Indonesia) and has no place in the West", but I doubt that would garner much support among political moderates.
>it's a "muslim tries to claim the far right should be their ideological allies" thread How about not acting like dirty fucking shitskins? Because if you're not a muzzie you're sheltered as fuck if you think that acting like a civilised human being is high on the list of muslim priorities. Child molestation, incest, rape, threats towards anyone who's not them, chimpouts, constant demands for special treatment. These are standard wherever Islam is found even before the terrorism. Plus they hate dogs, beer, bacon and boobs. Fuck 'em
also, >images.jpg I want mobileposters to fuck off.
Leo Peterson
>far right is 1 person
I might like traditional gender roles but to no where near the extent of islam. I think gender roles should be valued and encouraged. It should be made clear that it's what society wants from you. But I also think the door should be open legally speaking if a woman or a man wants to do something else.
I dislike liberalism but I have a different tolerance level and a different idea of what the punishment should be
>Most criticisms of Islam in contemporary political discussion are from a left-wing framework.
Far right is a pretty vague term. Im very likely to be considered far right by almost anyone and to me, Islam is too extreme. The far right of today was a standard right winger of 1 century ago
You could say Islam is super-far right now since everything is so cucked to the left.
Daniel Thompson
Leave this site Ahmed. It's not for you.
Zachary Carter
I don't oppose Islam, I just don't want middle easterners coming to my country
Do the Akbar all you want, just keep it in your countries
Nicholas Thompson
How far do you think you're going to get in a formal public debate if you just say, "they're incestuous, primitive rapists that chimpout and hate bacon"?
Nolan Jenkins
Libertarian is still far right
Logan Scott
>far-right/radical-right/hard-right (whatever you want to call us), has far more ideological commonalities with Islam than the Western left and perhaps even with the Western moderate-right. Yes, and you are also politically irrelevant. Call back when you are more than 20 people around the London area.
Xavier Moore
What is your definition of "far-right"? Neo-Nazis? UKIP supporters? Libertarians? Trump supporters? Fascists?
Jonathan Peterson
>I don't oppose Islam, I just don't want middle easterners coming to my country >Do the Akbar all you want, just keep it in your countries This. I don't want to ban the Koran, however, don't expect me having to read it in order to partake in social life.
I don't care about religion, but mudslimes make up a large movement in society and that is a threat to western way of life.
Asher Foster
Realistically, not much. The far-right basically disagrees that their prophet was the correct one, thinks that beer, bacon, and dogs are okay, Islamic rituals are unfamiliar, and that English is better than Islam. Other than that, we agree on > Traditional gender roles > Moral absolutism > Belief in a higher power > Fondness for guns > Tribalism
The real redpill is realising that many posters on Cred Forums represents the interests of the equivalent of Western Muslims.
Justin Phillips
>far right freedom fuck yeah >wear this or we stone you bitch
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Brandon Bennett
Pretty far if the person he is sharing this dialogue with is not a dumbass sensitive to blunt comments.
Owen Evans
>What is your definition of "far-right"? Well, in your definition it's people who share more traits and opinions with mudslimes than other european ideological camps.
Josiah Rodriguez
I know it's hard to grasp but the alt-right is libertarian.
As in let the gays fuck while they hold guns and protect their property from your kind Ahmed.
It's not about left or right anymore. These are economic policies are really everyone in the world simply acknowledges the Capitalism won. Even China the bigest communist nation or so they say.
Today Right vs Left is about social issues. Authoritarian vs Liberal.
Economics are Capitalistic freedoms or Capitalism with safeguards and protectionism of sorts. Do you want free college or should we tax people and give people "free colege" and so on...
Nobody on the left in Western Nations and even Europe is saying let's go back to Planed Economics and One Party state communism.
And very few people on the right want actual national socialism because it would be just like communism. You'd lose a lot of your freedoms and privileges as an individual because your country/race/whatever comes first. That means your property can be taken because you race needs your property to build a highway for this great nation of ours.
Matthew Cruz
Muslims call their Semitic war god by the wrong name
Lincoln Gonzalez
>On what grounds is the far-right actually supposed to oppose Islam?
They want to kill us and take our land.
Commonalities are irrelevant.
Wyatt Hernandez
>In reality, the far-right/radical-right/hard-right (whatever you want to call us), has far more ideological commonalities with Islam
No. Stopped reading there.
Gavin Hill
are you fucking joking? sand nigger are still stuck in the Middle Age and kill people for shit nobody else cares
Samuel Young
You realize that virtually all mainstream European political parties that advocate national identity (UKIP, Front National, AfD, Freedom Party), are routinely referred to as "far-right" by the mainstream media?
Far-right, to me, is authoritarian right-wing politics; i.e. fascism.
Samuel Thomas
But you're speaking about a small minority of muslims. Doesn't that make your argument kind of shit?
Nolan Foster
Just because right wingers support traditional gender roles or respect of authority doesn't mean we're going to throw you from a rooftop for being gay or cut your fucking hand off for stealing some bread.
That's the difference.
Ethan Thomas
Reminder that the only principled conservatives in Western countries are Muslims
Blake Young
>MUH NORITY
Jack Martin
Social libertarianism largely what got us into this mess.
You tolerate a bit of "diversity" and the next thing you know you're being demographically replaced by people who reject your culture and despise you.
You tolerate "women's rights" and the next thing you know every college-educated female under the age of 30 things, "cis White men", are to blame for every ill in the world.
You tolerate "homosexuality in the privacy of people's homes" and the next thing you know your Church is practicing gay marriage.
If you give Liberals an inch, they will take a mile. If the West is to revive, it will require an authoritarian right-wing movement.
Wyatt Morris
I want to kill every muslim I fucking see. I want to strangle every muslim whore who is wearing a burka with her own clothing. I want to genocide every middle eastern nation. I want to drop a nuke on Mecca. I want to destroy ever child-raping, wife-beating, gay-killing, goatfucking "human" that is and ever was.
William Campbell
>t. dumb Paki
Sage this thread people. There is no point in responding to peanut brain inbred goblins.
>(UKIP, Front National, AfD, Freedom Party), are routinely referred to as "far-right" by the mainstream media? Sort of. I think the most common denomitation is populist parties, as they know they will not get away with outright calling it far right. Mostly left wing political commentators try to use the far right terminology.
Afd is probably no more right wing than CDU used to be some decades ago. They are only considered right wing due to a political shift towards the center of the political spectrum in mainstream Europe.
Exception might be FN, which until recently could be described as extreme right.
However, I do not in any way consider the parties you list as far right. And they certainly don't share more traits with Sharia-law than with ordinary European political movements.
And you are right, far right is authoritarian fascist. And that political movement is pretty much as dead as Anarcho-Syndicalists.
Nathan Walker
convert or be banished seems fair.
Just because we are similar in some aspects still dont make us remotely compatible
Carson Bailey
Hijab preserved in blood, sweat and tears? Sounds unhygienic to me.
Jackson Ramirez
They oppose, magic, bacon, dogs, divination, alcohol, certain competitive games, gambling, and fun. I do not want Mudslimes to fuck up my world.
Eli Taylor
>In reality, the far-right/radical-right/hard-right (whatever you want to call us), has far more ideological commonalities with Islam than the Western left
The "western" left is no more western than Islam is.
Begone shill.
Adam Bailey
This leaf gets it
Michael Butler
Free Speech
Free Thought
Isaac Nguyen
>"Muslims treat women terribly". These sounds pretty pathetic to me. You're saying treating women like shit is a rightwing ideal?
Ayden Cooper
This too. What a stupid notion that you have to befriend a mudslime just because you both dislike furries and fags.
Adrian Lopez
agreed. Every other form of "conservative" has lost it's meaning
Brody Lee
> And that political movement is pretty much as dead
That doesn't necessarily mean that that will always be the case, though. Political parties and political movements come and go; their popularity is largely dependent upon the social circumstances of the present day.
An example of this would be the growing popularity of nationalist and populist movements almost immediately in Europe following the refugee crisis. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that, if things continue to deteriorate in the West, and people's towns and cities continue to be changed beyond all cultural recognition, authoritarian right-wing groups who promise to end all immigration entirely begin to seem quite attractive. In Britain, for example, a party like the BNP might begin to gain ground.
Isaiah Watson
>On what grounds are the far-right supposed to criticize Islam, then? And to answer your question, you criticize islam due to it's effect on society and that an alien group are taking over public life. That is what you dislike about them, is it not?
Samuel Ramirez
Traditional gender roles and advocacy of the nuclear family were (and still are to an extent) typically conservative positions. But now because there are so many single-parent homes, centre-right parties can no longer criticize this dynamic without alienating a lot of their support base.
Most religions are on board with this idea but, yes, admittedly Islam takes it too far like they do with everything.
I'm in favor of clearly defined masculine and feminine gender roles but forcing your Wife to wear a bin-bag and beating her is pitiful.
Adam Torres
>if things continue to deteriorate in the West, and people's towns and cities continue to be changed beyond all cultural recognition, authoritarian right-wing groups who promise to end all immigration entirely begin to seem quite attractive. I certainly think these movements will grow due to idiotic policies of current governments, I will certainly concede to that.
Dominic Collins
What are you defining as "far-right/radical-right/hard-right"? Alex Jones is often accused of being far-right, when really he's just anti-govenrment.
Alexander Lee
As Jonathan Bowden said their are two philosophical schools of thought that can not be absorbed by mainstream monolithic American culture. Right Wing Fascism, and Religious Extremism such as Islamism. Both are alienated systems that cannot be adopted and so must be eradicated by the bourgeois Neo Liberal world order.
Gavin Ward
It seems that these days far right is just opposing the ideals of the social justice movement.
Not allowing gays to marry is far right. Saying there are two genders is far right. etc etc.
