Wait, so you're against socialism because blacks would benefit too?

>Commies
>Helpping Negros

Actually if socialism were in place blacks would most likely be deported to africa.

Go to best Korea.

I'm against socialism because its victims are invariably people who would be successful otherwise but aren't allowed to be under socialism due to socialist academic elite equating them to the bourgeois.

Socialism is anti human. It is literally dysgenic.

>blacks would benefit

Wasn't my original reason for hating socialism, but a good one to add to the list.

>capitalism
>not anti human
Yeah, big corporations that control everything including politics itself is a sure sign of pro human.

You're full of shit.

Capitalism is a natural system that arises from barter and trade. Marxism came from the mind of an angry Jewish NEET who, despite never working, concluded that all work is alienating and a paycheck isn't enough redistribution.

No, I think competitive systems are the most natural systems, provided measure are made to preserve competitiveness, like fines for companies who employ diversity policies.

i'm against socialism because i owe the poor nothing, white or not

>muh bootstraps

You have such good memes. Where can I get good memes?

>muh altruism

>implying socialism helps poor people
Found the flaw in your argument

Socialism isn't going to help anyone in America, it won't work in America, it barely works in small European countries

Human beings are tribal animals, the most natural system of them all is communism.

Capitalism is disgusting jewish greed that promotes not quality but name brand and marketing.
They sell you inferior products that people buy because they've spent countless millions marketing those products to you, its the very definition of a degenerate system, a system where you see hipsters buying MACS which are inferior to a PC in every conceivable way, degenerates who buy the same phone every year with little to no improvements while a small gush of wind breaks the phone in 2 forcing you to buy another.

I don't see how anyone can defend the degenerate system that is capitalism with a straight face.

Against socialism because it historically doesn't work and reliance on the government is for fags. Nice try though.

FUCK ALL SUBVERSIVE COMMUNIST AGENDA DRIVEN POLICIES THAT TAKE THE DECISIONS MONEY AND POWER OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

listen bro i agree with your arguments but there is no need to be antisemitic. Us socialists should not be dividing the working class by alienating jews.

>communism
>no tribes
>natural for tribal animals

>I don't see how anyone can defend the degenerate system that is capitalism with a straight face.

Same way I feel about people defending Communism with a straight face. Oh wait, I forgot, Stalin and Mao weren't practicing "true communism", just poser communism. If you really like Communism, South Korea, why don't you head on up north? I'm sure you'll be quite happy up there.

Also, no, under communism you won't get your penis size increased to match everyone else. :^)

what do you mean by this, honestly, my friend?

if it is a genuine complement, i am gushing :-)

WHEN WE PULL OUT OF SOUTH KOREA YOU WILL BEG FOR CAPITALISM.

Jews made socialism...

WHEN YOU ARE HEATING YOUR HOUSES AND COOKING WITH COAL LIKE YOUR PEOPLE IN THE NORTH YOU WILL BEG FOR CAPITALISM.

north korea disavowed socialism twenty years ago but facts probably don't matter to you

>DISAVOWS SOCIALISM
>BEGS AND RECEIVES HANDOUTS FROM ANY COUNTRY IT CAN JUST SO THEY DONT STARVE TO DEATH.
>ACTIONS AND WORDS ARE THE SAME

What does stalin and mao have to do with anything?
This is like saying capitalism is destroying germany because just LOOK at all the refugees invading germany now.

MUUURICAN education.

I'm against socialism because it will become a huge corrupt burden and then slide into a form of totalitarianism where millions of people will starve or be purged or die in civil war unless they get lucky and manage to doom their children to a life in a poor and oppressive 3rd world country.

WE CAN'T WAIT TO TAX SAMSUNG PRODUCTS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND WATCH YOU FALL.

No one benefits from socialism be he white, black, asian, or hispanic.

>yeah being a virgin is an interesting time in life
good sissy cuck

Blacks hurt themselves. We've done enough for them.

yes

They praised Venezuela for its socialism and now the hungry people there eat garbage to stay alive.

What are some examples of this "white" privilege. It's been a couple years now with you SJW's throwing the phrase around, but I've yet to see any proof of its existence.

>Venezuela is suffering against sanctions by rich countries
guise sometimes good countries cant be self sufficient i promise its big evil imperialist usa thats so mean omg dont even get me started

Scotland is a socialist state. They elect commies EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>MUUURICAN EDUCATION
>USES ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION CREATED BY MUUURICAN EDUCATION TO PROCESS INFORMATION FROM A PARTICLE COLLIDING SYSTEM TO BASH MUUURICAN EDUCATION.

NEXT.

I've never heard anyone say this, you fucking retard.

Sage

There are no socialist european countries. The nordic states are capitalist countries with free economies, but relatively high taxes to provide health care/education.

No I'm against it because socialism isn't the best way to help poor people and it takes away rights and makes the government engorged.

>You're against having your money stolen to give to people you dislike?

don't tred on snek, etc.

fun fact they are also a leach on government funds from the rest of the uk

Being so hostile is why no one likes you

Nice try. No one 'benefits' from socialism.
Take your weak low energy race baiting elsewhere
sage

Pretty accurate though.
Every commie country USA completely embargoed.

Cuba, NK, russia....etc
You blame it on the countries themselves but you intervene every single time.

yes

Correlation does not equal causation. Commies crying about restrictions to their trade is hilarious btw

>communist country
wanna know how i know you're not talking about actual communism

name a country where socialism hasn't caused suffering and mass graves.

> Pretty accurate though
the fact that they were embargoed is accurate but saying that this is what causes socialism to fail isnt a good argument for socialism
>socialism cant exist without trade with the outside world
sick point dude

Blacks are already living in a socialism , the problem is black people just choose not to work , instead they supplement their welfare money with crime

>every country has plentiful resources of all kind
This is how I know I"m talking to a retard.

And yes you are the cause.

you are confusin radom people with black people, you evil jew you.

Again, commies talking about restrictions to trade is hilarious.

Commies can't even have a plentiful supply of toilet paper, so don't start crying about embargoes.

>things no one has said: the datamining thread
Kill yourself.

Technically they are working. Crime is a "job". Probably the only job they can get considering you have outlawed working for less than 7 bucks and made everyone leave your country to manufacture goods elsewhere.

I"m aware, there has never been actual communism.
I just call it that because most people view those places as such.

>the fact they get embargoed isn't the reason they fail
Legit, WHAT???

It can exist, it just wont flourish because obviously resources don't just appear from thin air, some countries have more resources than others.

Jesus...

Both Stalin and Mao professed themselves to be socialists, and similarly John stewart has called America a social democracy now. Coincidentaly ever since we became more socialistic in our govt arms, and policies, we have been in decline. I'm sure it's a coincidence, and and capitalism is to blame...right? lmao

In capitalist country bread waits on a shelf for you. In communist country you wait for bread in line

commies, fitlth of the earth, I agree.

>embargo them
>w-w--why do these people not have X things?
Geex golly I wonder...
Perhaps you missed the lesson in your MUUURRICAN education.

I will wait for you to retake them, I am patient.

so if people viewed 2+2 equaling 5 would you conform to that too?

if you can't even have toilet paper or food because of countries who are idealogically opposed to you have embargoes on you then maybe your economy and model isn't so good after all?

But no, it's the capitalists fault that you can't even fucking feed your people or provide them with enough paper to wipe their ass.

Really hope your shitposting retard.

The best thing for all is to be born into a world that wants them where they can thrive independently. Welfare enables and encourages the creation of useless people and robs people of their freedom and independence and the dignity that comes with it. At the least you are robbed of your money to pay for it.

that's one of the more commonly cited reasons why UHC could never work in the US. Our population is too "diverse"

Look at what they gave niggers in South Africa. South Africa is now a complete shithole, further proving that you can move the goalpost all you want to fit your fucking narrative but low IQs will never be able to morph beyond the locust plagues they are.

Actually yes, its because you're very stupid.

Liberals back then in your country were the people who gave rise of the KKK for a reason.
Communism requires people to work in a community in benefit for said community.

This is why you see the more socialist welfare countries like sweden, germany, denmark...etc to be 90%+ white while America a capitalist through and through to be 60% white.

Communism require homogeneity while capitalism requires tons of low wage foreigners.

just too stupid even to argue with

>muh Venezuela
There are capitalist countries that are much, much worse right now. In fact, Chavez's social programs (which btw aren't alone socialism) raised living standards from 2003 to 2007. It's just that he overspent on things like the military, enacted irresponsible price controls, and refused to save money in case of an oil price crash just like other OPEC countries were doing.

In this argument yes because the 2+2 isn't the argument its the 5 we are arguing about.

How people got to the 5 is irrelevant.

Not an argument.

My samsung refrigitor working fine, keynes.

Sweden, Germany and Denmark still have capitalism, they just have tacked on social welfare bullshit on top of it.

You're asinine if you think those countries are examples of anything bad about capitalism.

>a communist fucked the economy

Woah

Actually, communism requires people to be of a different species. Sweden, Germany and Denmark are in many ways more free market than USA. That's rapidly changing as their social welfare system is collapsing and society is crumbling, but hey. That's where the wealth came from.

Perhaps you should consult a history book in the success rate over all of socialist countries in global competition. Socialists seem to operate under the assumption that giving all of our money to the govt. would somehow eradicate poverty, but as we have seen time and again it breeds more elitism. Socialist alway attribute dissent to their antiquated, failed ideas as a pathology of the mind. This is what makes them unreasonable from just a basic logic standpoint. It also is especially ironic, given that they are the the ones who profess themselves to be tolerant

So you're not saying communism is bad because the system is bad, you're just saying its bad cuz then everyone will embargo you, starve you and treat you like shit until you are forced to change it to capitalism.

I agree, this is why communism is bad in the current year.
Maybe other years when we don't have countries with MUUURICAN education dictating things things will come out better.

If people are naturally cooperative, there wouldn't even be capitalism in the first place. We would've headed straight towards communism. Communism doesn't even work in small groups. Have you ever lived with other people before besides your family? Everyone has a different opinion and attitude towards work, sharing, etc. What you think is a personal responsibility, others see as another person's responsibility. What you see as an consensual agreement, others see as oppression. If you work hard, they are people who still think you're lazy even when they're doing nothing of value themselves. The list goes on. There's never a true consensus within a group.

>hunter gathers stay self sufficient on a relatively small amount of land for hundreds of thousand of years, other animals have done this for millions of years. both humans and even the most rudimentary of animals can do this. many nations do this aswell.
>socialism cant do this with a nation sized plot of land
ok

I am from a socialist country and sincerely fuck socialism.

meanwhile, immigration is being pushed all over Europe

just in time for the trade agreements that would give poor embattled pharmacy and med tech companies an avenue to fight anti-competitive practices, such as government power to negotiate prices

America won't get UHC. Europe will sooner lose theirs

no they didn't follow db stocks, ecb policy, federal reserve poliy

>dysgenics
Literally a boogeyman used by pseudo-intellectual political activists who prioritize agenda over actuality. There are cases of dysgenics happening, but they're nowhere near what most people would expect. The closest thing to it I've seen is the retention of a formerly useful genetic trait in an environment where it is now destructive. See: diabetes mellitus II genes in Nauru and some Southwestern Amerindians of the USA.

They are capitalistic but they have tons, and tons, and tons, of socialist programs which makes them pretty close to socialistic anyway.

No I'm saying that for those welfare programs to exist its because it requires homogeneity, USA doesn't have that which is why you will never be able to be socialist country.
You're only 60% white so capitalism is the only system you will be able to survive in.

I'm saying communism is bad because the system is bad you retard. Embargoes aren't why your people starve to death.

It also speaks volumes when the only nations who can afford embargoes and are wealthy enough to actually have that mean something, are capitalist.

I'm sure the reason North Korea can't even feed its people is because of fucking capitalism right?

Socialism doesn't work because the middle class are the ones who are punished. It should be the big businesses and rich who help the poor. NOT the middle class

Give some (You)'s to this bloke. His gubment mandated interweb quota is about to expire for the year, he will never comment again.

>trying to write in the Roman alphabet with similar Cyrillic characters
That image gave me cancer.

What? Are you saying they aren't capitalist countries?

It doesn't work for anyone, look at any socialist country without a valuable commodity.

>different species
No, communism requires the same species.
Low wage low intellect workers ONLY benefit capitalism because it drives down wages companies get richer and easy labor.

A socialist country requires high skilled workers moreso than low skilled workers because it needs to make sure people are contributing to the system and not leeching.

Yes success rate is low cuz USA intervenes I know that.

Sorry, is hiring based on identity instead of meritocracy going to give incentives for strength as a worker? Or for skin colour and genital shape? How is this not dysgenic.

My argument is entirely about competition. Yours is basically hate speech.

I find it very Ironic that you yourself claim communism requires homogeneity, while in the same breath claim capitalist ideas give rise to the KKK. If you were historically competent in any capacity you would realize that the KKK was founded with large cross over from the democratic party, and favor heavy govt. assistance, and subsidies for their industries. Much like socialism demand heavy assistance, and subsidies for the benefit of the masses, but it's just a side effect that the administrators of these benefits become enriched themselves almost always. You are clearly unable to reason very well, and I can only surmise that you are very very stupid in a dunning-kruger way.

>embargoes aren't why people starve to death
HAHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHA
HAHAHA
HAHAHA
HAHA

Doesn't work so it doesn't benefit them either way. Best to not give the hopeless false hope; their subhuman brains cannot handle the concept.

I mean different species as in not human. Maybe something like a mass produced android.

>South Korean
>complaining about America's historical opposition to communism

Hahaha. You can always hop over the DMV and go try it out for yourself.

Chavez was a clown, and Maduro is a total moron. That being said, it's not implausible that the USA and other countries have taken action against Venezuela, given the USA's rather unsavory track record on such matters.

No because their economy is still capitalist, having social programs doesn't mean you're socialist. They do not have worker owned means of production in entirety, they are not socialist.

>hurr 60 percent white so capitalism is the only system you survive in

We have social programs too, less than Scandinavian countries but that isn't the point, homogeneity may promote more of a willingness to give up money to """""help""""" your countrymen but that isn't the point at hand, the point is all of them are capitalist nations along with the United States and you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what socialism even is despite you fellating socialism and communism the entire thread.

>capitalist ideas give rise to the KKK
The KKK was founded by DEMOCRATS turbo retard

Wait, so you are against tax cuts because it would help

>Scotland
>Socialist

I'm against all forms of communism no matter what mask it hides under.

Yes, (don't forget your comma next time) Socialism can succeed as long as it operates in a vacuum, and doesn't have any, more attractive options existing in the world.

Absolutely. 100% socialist. They 100% support EU too.

Name any country with such a spotless record.

socialism hurts everyone. theres thousands of white people on this website who stuck in their bedrooms with autism bux and knights and army figurines by their bed. they have pictures of animes on their walls and no work

>no trade from evil capitalists is the reason we can't grow food!

you are a mental fucking potato

Please move to North Korea, I can't bear the thought of my tax money going towards the military who protects your useless faggot ass.

Can you read? Please try next time slow Korean friend.

>the DMV
kek

Give me one succesful (and democratic) socialist country.

Who the fuck benefits from socialism besides the government officials lol
nobody

every fucking time they try it it fucking blows

You're stupid.

USA wouldn't even be able to stay afloat if it even had HALF of the socialist programs scandinavian countries have.
You know why???

Homogeneity you turbo retard.
That is what is needed in a communist country, capitalistic countries is the opposite you NEED low skilled foreigners imported daily to supply the quote of low skilled labor.

I'm against socialism because it's a failure everywhere it's implemented because once you deplete the rich of their money, the social programs have no funding. Plus I really don't give a shit about anyone besides myself and refuse to pay for the degenerate behavior of niggers and spics.

South Sudan

>USA
>socialist
Do the workers own the means of production?

Welfare isn't in and of itself socialism.

Even if that were the case why would I care? For years whites have bent over backwards to appease blacks in this country but it is never fucking good enough so why bother trying to be anything other than the villain they perceive me as?

Niggers wanted a demonic white boogyman to blame everything on and the more they push that fantasy the more whites get fed up with their shit and start to make that fantasy come true

>Chavez was a clown, and Maduro is a total moron
weve already confirmed that they were socialists this is redundant

Lol yeah I slipped up

>That is what is needed in a communist country, capitalistic countries is the opposite you NEED low skilled foreigners imported daily to supply the quote of low skilled labor.

so why have the CAPITALIST Scandinavian countries you're tirelessly blowing in your mind succeeded so much?

Address my core points you slimy slant eye kike. The nations you're listing are not socialist economic ones and they sure as hell aren't communist ones.

What is there to read.
KKK is something socialism gives birth to because for socialism to function it has to remove foreigners and create homogeneity, it is a MUST.

>enrich themselves
Yeah ok mr. tin foil

Chavez isn't a communist. That being said, he was an irresponsible buffoon.

>scandinavian countries are CAPITALISTIC
You saying countries that tax you over 50% of your income are super capitalistic?

KEK.

They are more socialist than capitalism, your MUUUURICAN education is super cringeworthy

>how can you say those nasty things about our lord while eating corn that was produced by feudalism???

>rekt him

>So it is more important to you to hurt black people than it is to help poor white people.

Correct.

Tax rate has nothing to do with the economic model being capitalist or not you dipshit retard.

I'm a socialist, I just don't believe in the current version. Race is clearly real, all scientists and intellectuals know that. Trying to pretend everyone is the same is anti-intellectual as well as destructive, doesn't lead to the best situation possible. The current left wing is completely debased and corrupt, full of liars and opportunists who don't actually give a fuck about anybody but themselves. I'm more left wing than they are.

Don't listen to those morons.

In comparison to USSR, Cambodia, China? Take your pick of any county that hasn't overtly taken control of all non-strategic industries in peacetime. They all are places that don't have problems with defectors and refugees fleeing glorious socialism. People vote with their feet by literally running from socialism to Capitalist countries, and we could rightly call this a phenomena, because it happens always.

>So it is more important to you to hurt black people than it is to help poor white people.

This user just nailed the Southern strategy and Republican outreach in a single sentence. Thats why poor whites vote for people cutting their welfare, cause they dont even realize it, they just hate blacks.

Its quite easy faggot. I can be taxed less and spend my tax money solely on whites as opposed to on ghetto nigs.

you kill niggers
>then you have socialism

youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

>Race is clearly real, all scientists and intellectuals know that.
The current constructs of race are not. External differences indicate nothing, and you can draw a line as to where races begin and end, tardo. Back to school you must go.

except it does???
The majority of what they make goes for socialist reasons.

They are more socialist than capitalism, yes they are a mixed economy type like in USA but difference is that they lean WAYYYY more towards socialism than they do capitalism unlike USA hence their increase taxes hence the amount of socialism programs when compared to USA.

Jesus you are stupid.

Jews minted both sides of the capitalism/socialism coin. They ultimately win in both systems.

A pragmatic economic policy inevitably contains elements of both, see fascism.

Hillary Clinton is a prime example of somebody who has made over 100 million dollars in the public "service". I understand if you need to insult me. You can't develop a line of reasoning, and I can see now why you would support socialism, seeing as who can't think and all...

>one is embargoed by everyone the other is not
Geez golly I sure do wonder why one's economy is going down the drain!

Their economy is capitalist you imbecile, look up what socialist actually means next time before you defend it.

I can see why superior Japanese hate you now.

Don't know if it has been said yet (though it probably has). Handouts ultimately hurt blacks.

how about we embargo you for being a protectionist cocksucker

I don't need my new samshit that bad

>welfare states
>helping anyone

>muh embargoes

Literally your only argument and its a baseless one. You're a fucking waste.

>they don't have socialist programs
>they are 120% like USA!!!
Yeah no, pls stop.
You are incredibly stupid.

Reason everyone calls you full blown capitalism, no one is as capitalistic as you, countries still lean heavily to socialism.

Chile was actively embargoed and condemned during Pinochet's junta, while Venezuela is the third largest oil importer to the USA. Try again

>you can be a poor white n have privilege

WHITE PRIVILEGE DOESN'T EXIST

I ONLY GOT INTO COLLEGE FREE BECAUSE I TECHNICALLY AM HOMELESS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WILL GAS YOU WITH MY STINKY BREATH

>They sell you inferior products that people buy because they've spent countless millions marketing those products to you
What is inferior and superior? If the consumer prefers it is it not the superior product? That's not how natural selection works, pepsi.

>blacks would benefit too?
blacks would be the ONLY ones that benefit. socialism on benefits those that don't

JUST DIE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH! ALONE! RACE BAITING ASSHOLE

SOCIAL PROGRAMS /=/ SOCIALIST ECONOMY

how many times do I have to repeat myself?

>protectionism is bad
>I want my 60% of white
>I want whites to be minority in my own country
KEK

Yes good boy, exterminate yourself, retard.

If embargoes don't mean anything why do all the capitalistic countries do it to communist countries?

Hint hint, they are afraid.

Feel free to move north then.

>protectionism having anything to do with demographics
>korean education

ZOOMED IN
Jaundiced eyes

SO niggers are superior to whites cuz whites are becoming extinct.
Natural selection.

You convinced me.

Socialist economy is all about social programs, RETARD.

Capitalism has nothing, NOTHING to do with socialist programs.
Horrry shit.

...

Except it does, which is why you're 60%.....

No
I'm against socialism because I actually have job and see no reason to give part of my earnings to people who don't.

user already addressed your stupid embargo point in regards to chile you lying rat.

>they're afraid

No, they embargo countries when that country has nothing to offer them.

Capitalism helps poor whites more than socialism ever will.

Jesus Christ do you even know what protectionism is needledick?

I'm against "socialism" or welfare in general because it's theft. Should people help out those less fortunate than them, absolutely. Should you donate to charities helping poor people, absolutely. But under no circumstance should you be mandated to do these things. How is a government forcing you to pay for someone else any different from that person just stealing your money? I guess the point is that you should have the right to be a shitty person if you want to.

Pic related sould give you some insight into the dangers you should associate with regulators being blindly trusted to deny lobbies. Why people choose fallible legislators, and regulators over natural competition to produce industry standards, I'll never understand...

SOCIAL PROGRAMS DO NOT MEAN SOCIALIST ECONOMY YOU FUCKWIT

Index of economic freedom, check who is right behind the US, and who is in front, you dumb fuck.

>capitalism has nothing to do with socialist programs

What? That's what I'm saying you dipshit, social programs does not make a country not capitalist. Are you illiterate now too?

Look I've even circled it for you so it's easy to see little kid.

>implying MUUURICANS know anything about other countries

Apparently its what you don't have 60%

Correct that RECORD!

Lol wtf ur not rel socilism!!! Xddd gib me bree sheet now

Correct the record bud

>So it is more important to you to hurt black people than it is to help poor white people.
that's the nihilism that greed and bigotry bear out through the agency of ignorance

You can scream 60% over and over again and it's still not an argument. You are the most uneducated person I have ever had the displeasure of speaking to. I'm not even white, I'm a fucking nigger

Except it does, retard.

And like I said it has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with socialism.

Some Asians, contrary to popular belief, are very stupid. I really enjoyed Correcting this record!

You have to be trolling, are you just going to ignore everything I've posted?

Jesus I really hope you're trolling and not really this fucking stupid.

He's correcting the evil, capitalist record!

Really makes me think.

And this is why your country is on full blown decline.

Maybe stare at a mirror to spot your overwhelming ignorance.

Please tell me all South Koreans are not this retarded.

I don't think disagreeing with swamp rats is what's put America in decline, Charlie Chan.

Bitch we could pull out of your country in a month and leave your ass for the Chinese and north Korea. I'd be careful talking bad about your masters.

Maybe we will stop spending our hard earned tax dollars protecting you and NK ((the glorious peaceful and would be prosperous (if not for those meddling capitalists!)) will nuke you.

For someone who has benefited immeasurably from capitalism and capitalist nations you sure do despise it.

Overwhelming ignorance is denying the vast amount of evidence that suggests capitalism is the best way to distribute resources based on merit. Also Thanks for correcting the record!

he's probably an American GI on base...FML

Or a ctr proxy shill

>Pick related

You're probably right.

>welfare queens

And economic freedom does not mean capitalist.

In my experience the best thing about socialism is that the poors and the blacks that voted for it are the first ones that are dying of starvation.
I'm not too far behind but damn its feels good to see them fall first.

^

>The Index's 2008 definition of economic freedom is "the highest form of economic freedom provides an absolute right of property ownership, fully realized freedoms of movement for labor, capital, and goods, and an absolute absence of coercion or constraint of economic liberty beyond the extent necessary for citizens to protect and maintain liberty itself."[10]

Social democracy Stewart said, and Communism is means of production. Socialism is taking the fruits of production for the benefit of all (which is inherently unfair to laborers on a sidenote). What happens is almost inevitable, and certainly in every practical reference we have, govt. mismanagement, and outright contemptible use of those fruits.

Reminder:

Pick related is where socialism comes from...Eternally

Holy shit this just got real. So user, seeing as you live in Venezuela would you recommend glorious socialism?

He doesn't even posses a basic grasp of the ideology he is trying to shill let alone something more nuanced such as protectionism

Tbh i think its a false flagging shill all things considered

No unless you want to lose some weight...
and then die

Damn, I'm really sorry you have to deal with that kind of austerity in your country. I feel guilty by association that my legislators enabled this to happen with their continued support. Sorry man ;_;7

Thanks for proving me right.

I mean even a state owned enterprise could fit under all of that shit.

>and an absolute absence of coercion

You're retarded.

straw ass nigga

>what is Haiti
>what is Central Asia
>what is India
>what is almost all of fucking Africa
>what is most of Latin America
By the way, Pol Pot would never have come to power had the USA not intervened in the region.

White privilege is being among the poorest people and not getting benefits black people get.

Perhaps poor whites should be as violent as blacks?

Not an argument.

fpbp

>People choosing to operate a state owned enterprise is coercion

>Pinochet's junta was embargoed
By most of the Eastern Bloc. The USA and the rest of the West went nuts with trade.

i hope everyone realizes the point of these threads with hot chicks as the image. it gets your neurons going. (internalization of memes)

Its ok. You guys stopped Sanders so I am happy for you.
You guys are right now in a mess because haha Trump is Hitler hahha Hilary killed a Gorilla but you guys probably be somewhat fine either way.

On the eyes of Sanders, however, I saw the same specter of death I saw in the eyes of the malnurished children that are constantly begging me for food.
I cant give them any thou, cause I am also in a highway to hell.

You can't expect an argument when I'm provided nothing to argue against, him posting "muh embargoes" as a retort with no basis is akin to saying "God exists prove me wrong".

Are you just being deliberately obtuse at this point or what? Read the definitions and go look up the index for yourself.

Wait, wut? You actually think the issues in Venezuela started a year ago and it's being cause by the USA government saying "you, the people being shits to your countrymen, don't come here."

How do the UKs chavs compare to US blacks wrt violent tendency?

I understand they engage ultraviolence / knock out game style behavior too

Socialist are just hypocrites

This is Bernie Sanders freaking out on a liberal girl for questioning the racist apartheid state of Isreal and its settlements
youtube.com/watch?v=iPVKSiTmU8s

How does one support walls for Isreal but not for the US and Europe?

Socialism isn't taking profits. It's the production of wealth being put in the hands of those who are responsible for its production.

>people choosing
>state run enterprise

pick one. to autists like me if you don't put a gun against my head you don't count as a state.

>this thread again

Stay awhile OP, we got some delicious red pills for you

I'm against socialism because I don't want to end up like the fucking Venezuelans

In case you are all ignorant of the moraality of the left right facade

Isreal is a racist apartheid state with racial Jewish only settlements in the west bank. Its border walls wrap around the racial settlements in an obvious land grab.
This is why rockets are falling on their heads and why the rest of the west suffers terrorism for supporting Israel.

Leftist in the US are the only ones who do not oppose this imperialism. Why is this so?

If you support what isreal is doing to the Palestinians you are not a leftist. End of story.

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Good job, I like you leaf.

>Read the definitions and go look up the index for yourself.
I did. It isn't my fault you don't know what you are talking about.

There is nothing that necessitates that a state owned enterprise must exist through coercion. Not every state is authoritarian. A state can exist because people freely chose to have one and that state can do things that those people freely chose including running an enterprise.

having social programs IS socialism
repeat yourself all you want

socialism in a capitalism society leads to communism. you can quote karl marx on this

>implying what most Westerners call "socialism" is what ruined Venezuela

States exist through taxation (force) and coercion. All states are force.

You're being stupid and obtuse. Look at the list, I am not even convinced you have read my snippet of the index description let alone the whole thing.

So if having any social program means socialism the United States is socialist and every nation is.

Daily reminder that canada is socialist

The rulling party is called "The United Socialist Party of Venezuela" for fucks sake.

So no true scotsman, sorry, capitalism has existed?

Just saying I haven't read it doesn't help you other than to evade.

Look, in the list posted the UK is above the US in economic freedom yet about 10% more of its economy is taxed and it also has a massive state owned enterprise in the NHS, 5th largest employer in the world. So how is the UK considered more economically free with all this stuff you consider going directly against what is free?

My point was that people we often mislabel as socialist (see: most of the American "left") isn't actually socialist.

I went over this all thread, social programs do not equal socialism, I don't know the exact metric they judge economic freedom ask the heritage foundation. Doesn't change that they are capitalist.

I'm getting so frustrated repeating myself in this thread.

Shut the fuck up

And the "Socialist Group" is in control in France. Party names don't mean shit.

Suck my dick faggot leaf

What? I am not talking about social programs.

How evasive can you be?

You're talking about taxes and healthcare.

The best part of a Trump Presidency would be him cutting off all the fucking freeloaders in the world that eat and live by the American taxpayer while at the same time damning and blaming the US for all their problems.
This goes for Eurofags too. Good luck paying for rapefugees and healthcare when the US stops providing your military protection.

Nationalism and Capitalism are incompatible.

Anyone who says otherwise is seriously deluded.

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I brought up tax as you marked it as a criteria of an economy not being free and therefore less capitalist as you think how free an economy is how capitalist it is or some such retarded shit.

So the UK taxes its economy way more than the US, the US being about 27% and the UK being about 38%. Yet you showed something saying the UK was more free. How can that be when it taxes its economy about 10% more. That is a big fucking chunk of the economy.

And I bought up a state owned enterprises. Something you also think cannot be considered as part of economically free. The UK also has one of the biggest state owned enterprises in the world in the NHS. Yet that plus the tax still makes it somehow more economically free than the US.

Could it be that you just don't know what the fuck you are talking about and that economic freedom does not actually equal capitalist? Unless you think state companies and higher taxation means capitalism?

I marked taxes as force that doesn't mean it's a judgement that the heritage foundation uses.

This whole thread I've been arguing that tax levels and social programs do not make an economy socialist.

>Could it be that you just don't know what the fuck you are talking about and that economic freedom does not actually equal capitalist?

are you saying that the uk isn't capitalist you fucking retard? What do you think it is then? I welcome you just as I did to the other fucktard in the thread to look up the definition of socialist. I've even posted it up not far.

blacks hate socialism.

its the reason NO blacks voted for bernie.

Not true.
They fucking love it.
They just voted against bernie because that would piss up the most the white starbucks drinkers that are so fucking obsessed with microagressions while massively pandering down to them.
And it worked, It was beautiful to seem them desperate not to insult the blacks for fear of being called racism. Good googles did something right one.

Yeah OP here that korean guy is not a socialist nor does he understand even the basics. He's one of those people that thinks socialism means slightly higher taxes.

Just ignore him.

Consider killing yourself

I'm against socialism because it hurts everyone, blacks included.

>Poor white people
You're a nigger and should be slaughtered slowly

>I've literally never seen someone use that as a reason to be against socialism. In real life or on Cred Forums.

Op is having fun with his strawman.

>Wait, so you're against socialism because blacks would benefit too?

I'm against socialism because it has impoverished and destroyed every single group that has embraced it and in its terminal stage is inevitably repressive.

The GOP has hurt the US to make the black man's terms bad.

chink-nigger venezuela isn't just "not flourishing". its a fucking nightmare hell hole. i'd love to drop you in the middle of it.

No that's not why. You can't have socialism and Google's. It just doesn't work. Socialism also makes the lazy whites act like Google's which is even worse.

So you are against radial tires because of peanut butter?

So is the price of tea in China more important to you than Crispy Crème Donuts?