>STILL doesn't believe in evolution >thinks his pathetic politics will EVER EVER take center stage in the world ever again >thinks people around the world don't want to round him up and murder him >thinks anyone with an IQ over 60 supports communism
AHAHHAHAHAHA
Samuel Reed
>STILL doesn't believe in evolution Nothing to do with communism, you silly leaf.
>thinks his pathetic politics will EVER EVER take center stage in the world ever again They will. Kurds in Rojava are attracting people from all over the world. Socialism is growing in popularity all across the West.
Grayson Thompson
>REACTIONARY ahahahhahaAHAHHAHAHHA
It's like some christcuck calling other people sinners that don't adhere to their religious beliefs.
Your religion is fucking stupid. There's a reason why the vast majority of planet earth hates your fucking guts.
Your country is INFESTED like a plague of roaches with marxist turds that have turned the average brit into a self hating piece of shit.
>Nothing to do with communism Everything to do with communism. Marxists believe all human behavior is the result of economic/social forces? Do they not? Of course they fucking do, you retarded creationist.
They don't even believe in race or human instincts. They have no idea how the structure of the brain works. For them it's just dialectical materialism and the "mode of production" somehow MAGICALLY controlling all of human behavior.
This is why academics and anyone with a brain laughs at you wastes of life.
>They will. lel
>Kurds in Rojava Nobody even knows or cares.
>Socialism is growing in popularity all across the West. All radical views are growing in the west. Nationalism is rising the most. Socialism is rising the least. In fact people that HATE socialism and hate the EU cucks that you support are rising.
People want to murder you, deal with it.
Levi Mitchell
>People want to murder you they can try
also I'm not a Marxist, socialism precedes Marxism by centuries.
Jonathan Myers
look at this bourgieoisie boot licker
Jacob Reed
>he wastes trips on a shit-tier shitpost >he's gonna reply to me with the same shitpost as before
I think it had something to do with miners or some shit in the 80s where every burnt-out hippy edgeleord went on a pilgrimage to Northern England to FIGHT DA POWAH and brought their kids along with them because good parenting
Asher Morales
Recognized Marxism as a tool of that certain rootless international clique meant to subvert countries
A lot of "coincidences" when it came to leadership positions in commie countries
Isaac Morgan
>classcuck
Evolution applies to human beings and it applies above the neck as well
Jordan Gomez
>Thinks anyone with an IQ over 130 supports capitalism Kek would be proud, young leaf
Henry Gomez
Finland is just as bad as UK for marxist infestation.
You have to be extreme untermensch to take marxism seriously.
>Hopefully Hitler could hear this when he shot himself >soviet national anthem LOL
Seriously though are you a 12 year old with autism?
You actually TRULY believe in dialectical materialism?
How can anyone actually be this stupid? It's like believing in flat earth theories or creationism.
Incredible.
Joseph Cooper
I dont think a Marxist style of government will ever happen, but please stop with this "genetics/human nature etc." unscientific crap. If the government and media can teach you that making other men fuck your wife is ok and that Black gorilla that just beheaded your mother is a rocket scientist waiting to happen, then it's clear that humans can be trained to accept any kind of ideology. Propaganda moves mountains.
Cameron Peterson
>Why is UK so infested with marxists?
I don't know that, what I do know is that they're going to make good target practice.
Elijah Flores
>germany Half your country was cucked by marxism for ages, yet you still support it.
Drooling brainwashed retards like yourself support socialism. They want to be slaves and turn into Venezuela where people starve to death.
You're so fucking stupid you actually want to live like that.
Logan Moore
I love how Western Europeans whose country haven't been fucked up under those cancerous leftist ideologies proclaim themselves as marxists/commies. You guys will need some white terror soon.
Samuel Moore
The material world is the only thing that matters and it's what shapes everything in the world, so yeah.
Josiah Gray
>You guys will need some white terror soon. I really hope another pinochet will rise up and slaughter every single one of these lefties.
Logan Hill
Hitler and Mussolini were both socialists like you Antifa scum.
Muslims despise you. When you try and cosy up with them you look pathetic and weak.
Better dead than red you filthy communist cunt
Charles Jackson
>Better dead than red you filthy communist cunt
Fine by me
Owen Evans
i thought all the reds were killed in the civil war
Liam Martinez
bls franco come back
Jaxon Cruz
It's human nature to create corporations. It's human nature for one person to hoard all the wealth and then others to do what he says for crumbs. Consumer society is human nature. It's human nature to use fallacious appeals to human nature to justify whatever you want.
>I like to project my own psychological deficits as "human nature" and the rest of humanity. >I'm so indoctrinated in capitalist ideology that I can't identify even what human nature is.
All your posts are literally m'feelz are human nature. Unfuckingbelievable. Go to tumblr, you're an SJW with an identity crisis.
Owen Rivera
>The material world There you go again.
What is "the material world"?
Marx's view of dialectical materialism and historical materialism are a fucking joke.
They don't even make logical sense.
It's just a bunch of word salad strung together to make gullible idiots like you think they make sense.
There are no magical "laws of history".
You can deny human evolution and INSTINCTS all you want but they will ALWAYS determine human behavior you brainwashed waste of life.
Austin Wilson
You fucking leaf have absolutely no knowledge about communism
Did you lived in the DDR? I bet no We lived in the DDR, the whole East of Germany, we learned about Marx, and still many of us think that communism is the REAL redpill
Ryan Fisher
>Implying I'm a Finn I'm here to spread the great teachings if Marx and Lenin. Current Finns are too weak to remove anyone.
Parker Cooper
You must be really upset the soviet union collapsed and socialism is fucking DEAD worldwide.
The countries it does exist in are complete failures that starve it's people.
You have literal shit genetics, that's why you're gullible enough to believe in this stuff.
I bet you were raised by a single mother as well.
You weren't meant to exist.
Jacob Ward
I don't like Nazis because they're socialists like you. You're on their side you stupid prick.
I hope you get Jo Cox'd.
Jordan Kelly
I love being controlled by the Jews too
Blake Kelly
thats what you get for collaborating with jews
Christian Taylor
Europe in general is infested with marxists.
Jaxson Scott
back to somalia with you
Christopher Campbell
Leftist brainwashing at the universities created a new wave of red subhumans, which are just as despisable as the commies of the early 20th century. But unlike commies who were at least against unnatural degeneracies like sodomy, most of these scum fucking embrace it.
>You must be really upset the soviet union collapsed.
due to Gorby's capitalist restoration
>The countries it does exist in are complete failures that starve it's people.
lmao, russia had famines for centuries before the bolsheviks ended it. capitalism has starved millions in Ireland, India, Africa etc
>I bet you were raised by a single mother as well.
Pic related
Camden Taylor
Anyone got that image that has the Zizek guy saying "communism aint free... *Clears throat* *grabs nose* its been littered.... And so on..." ?
Jaxon Carter
What are these "instincts?" Give citations since you're claiming to be talking about biological phenomenon.
If by "instinct" you mean eating, drinking, socializing, fucking etc there is no contradiction with this and democratic ownership of the means of production (socialism.)
What the hell are you even on about?
Kayden Evans
Slaveman lol - i hate that fat cunt
Logan Rivera
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Brody Nelson
Your country really went to the gutter since he died.
Brody Perry
>pic >muh exploitation and greeeeeed Of course greed is one aspect of human nature. When people are allowed to freely trade with each other. This trait of human nature can be used for good, for economic production.
You creationist cuckold
>It's human nature to create corporations. That's like saying "it's human nature to make Marvel movies".
>It's human nature for one person to hoard all the wealth Except one person doesn't "hoard" all the wealth. Countless people SAVE their wealth. and the wealth they save actually BENEFITS the poor and middle class. It makes the money the poor and middle class have worth MORE.
If the super rich simply gave their money away it would only result in price inflation because there's not enough goods to justify that new increase in demand.
Rich people don't exploit anyone.
>Consumer society is human nature. It actually is whether you like it or not. People like to consume.
>It's human nature to use fallacious appeals But they're not fallacious. lol
>>I'm so indoctrinated in capitalist ideology LEL you're so brainwashed slaveman zizuk.
You don't even believe in human instincts. You actually think they're meaningless and that all human behavior is economically/socially constructed. How retarded and brainwashed can you get.
Your ideology is prescriptive while mine is descriptive.
Camden Sanchez
THANKS
Tyler Nelson
Good to see some sense in here.
Leo Bell
>literally no argument >still wants to be a slave kay
>y-you're p-projecting You're literally posting a picture of projector after you couldn't respond to my arguments.
>due to Gorby's BAAAAWWWWWWWW lol if he didn't do that countless more people would have died of starvation
Dude even Stalin allowed a bit of private markets in the USSR. You're falling apart here. The USSR was never socialist.
You actually want to live in a poverty filled commiebloc lol
>russia had famines for centuries before the bolsheviks ended it What really happened: Russia had minor famines for years when the world wasn't fully industrialized and they had massive state control and feudalism. Then communism came along and they had about the same amount of famines and authoritarian bullshit. really proved me wrong there kid
>capitalism has starved millions in Ireland, India, Africa etc Capitalism has brought billions of people out of poverty and ended hunger in countless nations. The only nations still doing shitty are the ones that are still hardcore statist. lol
Ryan Jones
>If by "instinct" you mean eating, drinking, socializing, fucking etc I'm talking about the the desire to own your own property, to form small groups you share a close bond with, to be the best at things etc
Even if you claim to believe in human instincts. Marxism DENIES these things and thinks all human behavior is socially/economically constructed.
The guy contradicted EVERYTHING you were saying in this thread. You're not even a marxist lol
Carson Edwards
Crazy meme.
Tyler Baker
You want an argument? How about that after the DDR failed, because our brothers in Russia got sabotaged by the West, we got cucked by the fucking West.
How about that East Germany is the last bastion which has something to say against the refugees? Literally everything what happens now happens because of the West, because of the fucking capitalist. The real enemy is the US & its friends, the fucking leaf & the Anglonigger
Before the fucking West came, we literally had not even a clue how a nigger looks
Ryder Morales
>we got cucked by the fucking West. It sucks but at least it's not communism
What can I say? my life is pretty gud
>How about that East Germany is the last bastion which has something to say against the refugees? Marxists would absolutely accept the refugees.
Blake Parker
>You're literally posting a picture of projector after you couldn't respond to my arguments.
your argument was bollocks so it didn't deserve a proper response
>lol if he didn't do that countless more people would have died of starvation the mortality rate in russia has skyrocketed since the end of the USSR. Most Russians want the USSR back
>You actually want to live in a poverty filled commiebloc lol
>Then communism came along and they had about the same amount of famines and authoritarian bullshit. Nah. The Orthodox church was repressed, rightfully so, famines ended in the 1940s in the USSR, people were finally given freedoms under the USSR, such as abortion, divorce, homosexuality, equality of gender, freedom of religion etc. Far better than semi-feudalist semi-capitalist Tsarism
>Capitalism has brought billions of people out of poverty No, workers have done that, not the system which exploits their labour
Dominic Anderson
>The guy contradicted EVERYTHING you were saying in this thread. Not really. He was saying that basic human instincts are quite compatible with socialism and egalitarianism, as modern communal and hunter gatherer communities show. Private property is not an instinct, personal property is and communism allows that, but private property is cancer and has to go.
Jacob Foster
Real communism had nothing to do with the liberal bullshit you know in the West. This is your creation.
Dylan Reed
What do you mean by "human nature?" Instinct? Because it's obvious that greed isn't instinctual, most people in my life aren't greedy and have no desire to hoard wealth. Are they going against their human nature?
>and the wealth they save actually BENEFITS the poor and middle class. It makes the money the poor and middle class have worth MORE.
Literally trickle-down economics. /trash/
>Rich people don't exploit anyone.
Be honest with me here. You're a college student who is studying to go into a field hoping to make lots of money. How much of this is true?
>It actually is whether you like it or not. People like to consume
By this logic it's human nature for people to do drugs. It's human nature for people to be at risk of
>You don't even believe in human instincts.
Sure I do. See the diagram. Please list what instincts you are talking about.
Dominic Brooks
>It actually is whether you like it or not. People like to consume
By this logic it's human nature for people to do drugs, therefore it is good and should be encouraged. Shopping addiction is a thing, and the good feeling one gets from purchasing something acts literally like a drug, releasing dopamine. Christmas is consumer heroin for kids. Now add to this claims that X product will fulfill your life in different ways, making you more attractive to the opposite sex, more likable and socially acceptable, to act as a badge of status, etc. Consumer culture is a ubiquitous system of preying on human psychological vulnerabilities in every way possible for cash.
Leo King
The SF State University study questioned 1,600 people about money management, shopping habits and whether or not they are materialistic. Compulsive shoppers said they got a "buzz" from shopping, or a "buy high." They believed their purchases could help boost their self-esteem and improve their appearance, reputation or relationships.
Jose Williams
>bollocks LOL It's just like those cute british people on Cred Forums. I can't believe you actually talk like that. awwww
>the mortality rate in russia has skyrocketed since the end of the USSR Wow, one of the least economically free countries on earth has a high mortality rate? color me surprised
>most-russians-regret Stockholm syndrome is a pretty common phenomenon user. >AWWW I WISH WE STILL LIVED IN CONCRETE CUBES WITH NO PLUMING, FOOD OR WATER, THINGS WERE SIMPLER BACK THEN
>The Orthodox church was repressed, rightfully so, famines ended in the 1940s in the USSR Every single country in the world that experienced famines had them stop after them embraced free markets and free trade.
The ussr had industrialized and still managed to have famines. Really makes you think.
>people were finally given freedoms under the USSR, It was the most authoritarian country in the ENTIRE WORLD at that time. No free speech, massive brainwashing. HOLY FUCK ARE YOU A DUMB MOTHERFUCKER
>such as abortion, HAHAHA OH WOW
>divorce, homosexuality, equality of gender, Most of these things aren't even that great.
Also the USSR persecuted homosexuals and KILLED Christians. You idiot.
>No, workers have done that No, they didn't.
Capitalist advances in mass production an technology have done this.
The countries with the least amount of communism have had the highest growth rates and the best outcomes for their people.
Zachary Bailey
>Nah. The Orthodox church was repressed, rightfully so, famines ended in the 1940s in the USSR, people were finally given freedoms under the USSR, such as abortion, divorce, homosexuality, equality of gender, freedom of religion etc. Far better than semi-feudalist semi-capitalist Tsarism >homosexuality
The only barely good aspect of the Soviet Union was immunising the countries in the Eastern bloc to the sodomite propaganda.
>freedom of religion lol
You are the perfect example of the typical modern degenerate Western cultural marxist. The Soviets would have lined you up against the wall if their puppets came to power in your countries.
Noah Gonzalez
Desire to own land isn't a human instinct bro. Socialism isn't about not allowing personal property, i.e. cars, clothes, and household items.
>Marxism DENIES these things and thinks all human behavior is socially/economically constructed.
You read a wiki article and jumped to conclusions from there, lol.
Nicholas Morgan
>Not really. He was saying that basic human instincts are quite compatible with socialism and egalitarianism But they're not.
You can keep saying that but it doesn't make it true.
also marxism is incompatible with human instincts.
>as modern communal and hunter gatherer communities show All that shows is families and communities exist. This has always been compatible with capitalism. ALWAYS.
>Private property is not an instinct Neither is dialectical materialism. People actually WANT to own things. It's something programmed into our DNA whether you like it or not. It is not a taught trait.
>but private property is cancer and has to go. Socialists are cancer and every single one of them will suffocate. There's a reason their ideology is dead. People desire the will to fucking life and will kill socialists if they try to take it from them.
Zizek's a cool guy though. He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't believe in extreme anarchist-style socialism, isn't a huge fan of political correctness. He has an interesting take on current events without being arrogant and claiming that he has all the answers.
Grayson Nguyen
>Because it's obvious that greed isn't instinctual, most people in my life aren't greedy and have no desire to hoard wealth 95% of people "hoard" wealth It's called their savings, it's what they use to life their life.
>Literally trickle-down economics LOL It's called BASIC economics. Sorry if this triggers you. You have no rebuttal to what I said so I pretty much won here.
>You're a college student >college student You're a literal socialist projecting hard right now.
>By this logic it's human nature for people to do drugs. That's not "by this logic" at all. What a red herring.
People like to consume certain things that betters their life and gives them pleasure. some people with genetic differences will translate this to doing drugs, but not all.
You don't have an argument.
It's human nature for people to want to consume certain things and to OWN things.
>See the diagram. dumbest thing I've ever seen
Angel Young
Also a question to all the marxists in the thread, what is your current occupation?
Kevin Foster
I cant think of anything more honorable than being a reactionary in this sickening world we live in today.
Eli Thompson
>Desire to own land isn't a human instinct bro. Yes it is. In some people it is.
Desire to CREATE things be is a business or a painting whatever is a human instinct.
You can't magically change this through dialectical materialism magic.
You people are creationists.
>personal property Prescriptive bullshit into the trash it goes
>You read a wiki article nah nah Don't pull that shit.
>You don't really understand marxism. It's one of the core tenets of marxist belief.
Brody Edwards
>People actually WANT to own things. It's something programmed into our DNA whether you like it or not. It is not a taught trait.
Private property means land. That you would make such a retarded errors shows that you are an Idiot and underage.
Do yourself a favor: save these posts of yours so you can laugh at them when you become an adult.
Nolan Parker
>what is your current occupation? Rotten eggplant guarder. outside the dumpster of an italian restaurant downtown
I do this because I'm utterly useless and couldn't provide any value to humanity
12 years old and just got into das kapital
really made me think
Ryder Lopez
Oh so Rojava is true socialism then? Screencapped for when it inevitably fails.
Jeremiah Bailey
>Private property means land. Not necessarily.
>That you would make such a retarded errors Literally nobody except for you people believe in the retarded definitions of words changed the meaning for
Lol you probably believe in patriarchy too.
>become an adult. You're admitting you're a socialist that probably doesn't have a job, yet your claiming anyone else in this thread isn't an adult.
The rich aren't exploiting you, if you took over the means of production, you would actually be worse off and much less consumer goods would be produced. kys
Alexander Sanders
if it fails it will be due to outside forces, like assad, isis, turkey etc. productivity, education and political engagement has grown hugely there
"true socialism" is a strawman, it's a learning process. capitalists didn't perfect their methods overnight
Blake Martin
Going to sleep now.
Enjoy your useless arguments you'll probably repeat a million times without questioning yourself.
lol there's a reason socialism fails virtually everywhere
slavery doesn't work
top kek
Adam Russell
>NOT REAL SOCIALISM
>IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT OUR SYSTEM WAS EXTREMELY INEFFICIENT AND CAUSED MASS STARVATION
Bookmark it and watch it sometime if you feel like learning about what socialism actually is sometime.
I however doubt that you have the attention span to watch it, because your understanding seems informed by a careless skimming of wikipedia articles and reading Cred Forums posts.
Leo Taylor
>The only barely good aspect of the Soviet Union was immunising the countries in the Eastern bloc to the sodomite propaganda.
dividing workers on the basis of heterosexuality/homosexuality is another capitalist tool. Lenin allowed homosexuality, for good reason. It's true Stalin criminalised it, but that was a mistake, even Fidel Castro has said so
>cultural marxist
nice meme
Adrian Clark
the system was efficient though. A planned economy is much better than the anarchic nature of capitalism, which produces garbage for profit. the Kurds are the most effective fighting force in the region, despite being surrounded by enemies. educate yourself
Labour has been inflitrated by commies and jews since the 70s. At least at the lower levels. Same thing is happening again with thousands of rank and file radical shitskins and (((trotskyists))) voting for corbyn.
Easton Robinson
Corbyn is pretty based.
Levi Murphy
Kill yourself autistic commie neckbeard. Are you the same NEET loser that always whines about "blairites" on brit/pol/?
Adam Fisher
oh look it's the greek nazi. can't wait till your country gets overrun by turks and arabs again lel
Jaxon Roberts
Well, Stalin and Mao are the only commie leaders I have a bit of respect for. They were cunning psychopats, but they were pretty fucking efficient at that.
Planned economy was a failure, instead of using the SJW buzzword "educate yourself" maybe do that yourself. The economics of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc would be a good start. It was simply unsustainable and fucked up the economy of the whole region with hilarious things like Hungarian commies deciding that we are going to be the country of iron and steel without having any significant mineral deposits for that. Making peasants starve by the millions in Ukraine, one of the most potent agricultural regions is another "hilarious" moment.
Kurds will be fucked if Turkey sides with the Russians. With Erdogan's recent purges and anti-American statements it might be just a matter of time.
Looks like weed and meth really had an effect on poor Badger's brain.
Gavin Thompson
People like you are Left because you've failed at being white. You need brown people to make yourself feel like a man compared to them. There's nobody more racist, and more pathetic, than a Leftist like you. Your women are ugly too, and usually have more testosterone than you.
Angel Barnes
Was Gaddafi a socialism?
Noah Gonzalez
GET IN HERE LADS
i made a thread if you want to save western civilisation
please come and have a read/give me a bump
Aaron Brooks
The Kurds have been reactionary assoles themselves. They've been attacking non-kurds in Syria, are fighting a NATIONALIST uprising in Turkey and oh yeah, the helped genocide the Armanis. Dumbfuck lefties hold them up as something much greater than they really are.
Anthony Parker
They were not real Kurds!!!!!!
Xavier Nguyen
Just amuses me when leftists lionise them as the ideological purists. Like not all Kurds are shit but the shitty things they've done aren't widely known, so then you have dumbfucks like the guy I was responding to holding them up as an example of socialism done right.
Gavin Ross
gramsciism
Colton Jackson
>People like you are Left because you've failed at being white. You need brown people to make yourself feel like a man compared to them. There's nobody more racist, and more pathetic, than a Leftist like you. Your women are ugly too, and usually have more testosterone than you.
Far rightists tend to be the genetic failures tbqg
Isaiah Brown
It's really rather embarrassing. Communists need to stop following their weird pseudo-religion and get control of their lives.