MGTOW

Rape does not exist, What you call rape is nothing more than a survival mechanism, Rape is the most common female fantasy we are just making a women's fantasy come true PS did you know that Brazil is one of the largest producer of bestiality and scat porn you degenerate piece of shit.

No, my parents divorced - I'm a child of the 90s.

i see where you're coming from then

well either don't bother or try to have a successful marriage

>my parents are degenerate
>I was raised by my degenerate single mom

makes perfect sense

Convert to Islam and move to Saudi Arabia or any other strict Muslim country like UAE, And get arrange marriaged to virgin Muslim women, it's not gonna be easy but you still have an option,

Marriage and women is not for everyone, ok. Not everyone is lucky to be attractive and brought up with good upbringing. I just don't want to be pressured to not be myself everyday. Being around women means i have to not look/act ugly all the time, plus i can't do whatever the fuck i want, i'd lose my private space, i'd get cheated on, i'd be jealous all the time, plus now i just can't love anyone, i just can't. Idk why.

Being a loser is not something we can control.

People marry because they want to, because they like marriage.

Some people don't. And marriage when you don't want one will be very shitty.

I mean, why ?

he is not ugly, he is pretty enought - I'm not gay

ALL MGTOW should do this or plan to do it. how ? having an additional part time or simply put money aside. just one so you dont have to be alone and to help to calm you inner instincts.

>try
Why ? Did you ? Marriage itself is not difficult. It's the feeling of wanting one that's difficult. It's the feeling of even being able to care about someone, to love someone. You just slide, well my slide is not wet is not slippery don't blame me, my ride is harder than yours.

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>Being a loser is not something we can control.
t. a loser

And this is why losers are losers. Not because they can't do more, but because they think they can't do more and don't try doing more.

I personally do want to see society continue. I just want a peaceful happy white society. Women and sexuality are wrong, has it right. We can produce stable levels of happy people and live in a providence. If the niggers don't destroy themselves maybe they'll do the same thing one day.

I don't argue with omega faggots.

>not knowing how to wear the pants in a relationship

Why...?, Marriage is all about raising a family and spreading your genes. Survive and reproduce our biological need to propagate as a species, I can see where you are coming from in the west the entire legal and cultural system is designed to break the nuclear family that's why i recommend you move to country where tradition still matter.

Children can definitely be raised healthily in a boarding school like environment as long as there's any sliver of common sense and decency.

t. Some genetic lottery winner

You don't lecture a person about going through his traffic jam when you've been driving freeway your whole life.

Can't you even simply compare a person who lived 23 years with good features and upbring with a person who lived 23 with bad features and upbringing ?

It's not an overnight effort, to change something like that. Plus when the loserdom is getting more and more comfy everyday

>Becoming Mudslimes
No.

You sound like a problem that will solve itself.

It's easy when you're brought up that way. And no i'm just not interested in that stuffs. Just fantasizing that stuffs doesn't excite me. I don't want to have kids. I don't want my kids to suffer like me.

It's just me though, but i believe i will be a bad parent, just like how my dad was. I don't have a masculine figure to bond with, so i surely can't give one to my kids. People like me should not be permitted to reproduce, we're psychologically defect.

I don't get it

you will pay for your words

Marriage was good in the medieval times when there's no worldly temptation and women weren't cheater whores. Like nowadays men have hobbies, wtf, it steers you out from the real world's focus. Loving your hobby is just not ideal.

>lesbians have sued sperm donors for child support
>"Look ma, no wife!"

Kek

Women are pretty and warm, and we're slaves to our animal instincts. There really are very few things, if any, that are better than the intimacy of being with someone you love. The only drawback with moments like that is that they make you feel content.

I understand parenting and family is a big responsibility and not every one is cut out for it. I respect your decision, It is better to not be a father than a shitty father.

>making sure that their genes still continue
too bad india has poo genes

I wish i could feel like this. I wish i could just be normal. I wish i my natural effortless self could align with what's good and what's natural and what's supposed to be.

But if you have it easy, i must too.

That better be bait, faggot.

How the hell does a lesbian suing a sperm donor affect surrogacy, It's his sperm,

But when they're in america none of them is poor. Can you, south america ?

They didn't win though.

Why are Fins always the MGTOW faggots? Or is it just the same neckbeard trying to justify his existence?

When everyone else genes get weeded out this so called poo gene will become the master gene you dumb fuck

that may have something to do with Finns being cold and distant people
Why the fuck MGTOW angers people so much?

I just hope mgtow grows up. Like people shouldn't be pressured to be married.

also women CAN DO IT but if men do it then he is a virgin, a loser, a .... etc etc. men can never do anything but women can.

If you can find a virgin gf it makes sense to get married

TLDR of MGTOW: "I'm a loser asshole and literally no woman wants to be with me due to my insecurities therefore ALL women are useless/dumb and any successfully married man is a loser."

It's bitterness and narcissism taken to the extreme.

>binlan
>not wanting to put benis in bagina
FUG :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:

is that you Andorra?

All of those people got robbed blind by their wives, despite being some of the most sought after men on the planet.

How will you do better? The contract of marriage favors almost entirely only the woman, once that changes marriage will become a thing again. Women initiate the majority of divorce.

you sound like a roaste

Dunno senpai, I think people can do whatever they want but don't put your misery on the people who have a girlfriend and who are happy with them.

Nobody forces you.

my father did it, why shouldn't I be able to?

Shots fired

If you dont find a good wife and have some kids with her you are a failure as a man
It may have been easier in past time but thats no excuse

You aren't wrong, but trying to convert others is futile.
All the pieces are in plain view, those who don't have the skill or desire to complete the puzzle should just be left alone. Their way is the hard way.

Finnish men are ugly, boring and selfish. No Finnish woman wants them. They got no other option but to go their own way.

being confident is delusional, being insecure is realistic.

successfully married men are not loser, they're obviously better than me. it's just that i don't think i'll ever get to their level, not even close i suppose. i know my weakness, i know when i'd lose, and i avoid bad experiences.

I'm not into all the woman hating nonsense most of these mgtow fags spew, but I will share this.

I recently graduated trade school. There was a girl that worked there that was incredibly attractive and had a great personality. Naturally I asked her out the first week I came to school. She said she couldn't date students. One year later the week of graduation, I brought it up again and just got some other shitty excuse.

It sucks being alone Cred Forums, no matter how many positive things you make out of it. I just had a dream about her last night, which pisses me off because I'm trying to keep her off my mind and move on.

Life sucks ass some times.

Wise words from a country that's very deliberately destroying itself.

I guess at their final moments some people finally come to their senses.

>successfully married men are not loser, they're obviously better than me
this is where you are wrong

I don't care if some people want to avoid marriage but they should stop trying to spread propaganda around like its some superior way of living. We need people to get married and have children, we are are family based society.

why does it matter ? prude virgin girls will be worse.

Not if what you want is a lasting and happy marriage

no, they're just better, like them, not the women. admiring women, actually loving a woman, actually wanting to build a family with a woman, is just the superior personality, man. they, as people, are obviously superior. too bad women are shit.

you know why i shouldn't be married ? because if i was in his position i would mutilate my wife and send the body parts to her parents. that's why insecure men shouldn't marry.

just got back this mornin

virgin girls will be more curious than roasties. there'd be more temptation going on in their head. jeesh i couldn't stand that. i'm too insecure and jealous.

>they should stop trying to spread propaganda
Here is the kicker:
there are more views of what MGTOW is than actual MGTOW people
One spread propaganda, other just chill, some use woman as fuckholes, some despise them
I, for instance, ignore all the bullshit, collect /r9k/ mgtow stuff, and focus on improving my own life, not on chasing meaningless sex and relationships

and this one, this is a cuck

I'm not against marriage, but I've accepted the fact that my odds of finding a woman who enjoys fishing/hunting/camping/ATV'ing/snowmobiling etc etc is very slim. I wasted most of my college years with girls who's hobby was apparently watching Netflix.

Why should I waste time doing something I don't want to do just for an eventual payoff down the road (sex)? I can just as easily and cheaply pay for hookers, and the sex will be better because it's their job, they have to be good at it

I don't even want kids. Another waste of my time. The time/effort/money put into children never pays off.

If you get married you are the beta bux

Women will sleep with criminals, narcissistic assholes, popular "dad's money" frat guys, and other assorted horrible individuals we classify as "chads" for absolutely free with zero effort on their part. The guys don't even care about these women and they line up to suck their dicks then complain when he dumps her for some other chick.

Then your beta ass shows up and tries to get to know her by taking her on dates and spending money. You idolize her in a way that her previous lovers never did. They saw her as a temporary place to cum in, you see her as the missing component to your soul. For what?

Why would you make a long-term investment into an individual who gives themselves away like a free sample at fucking costco? Who would BUY a free sample?!

they were able to move to america because they were not poor already

>designated rapist

>I don't even want kids. Another waste of my time. The time/effort/money put into children never pays off.

Yess... good man.... good thinking yes... Wonderful!

Statistics say otherwise senpai.

>insecure men shouldn't marry.
what kind of bullshit is that?

Listen up anons
From what we can presume, we only have 1 life
It is our own, it does not belong to anybody else
Thinking that other people are superior is retarded, because only being superior than humans could judge it.
Just live your life, do not give a shit about other people (meaning: do not want their stuff nor girls), and everything will be fine

and no, loving a woman does not make you superior to people who do not love a woman

>T. delusional females and their white knight army.

>Why would you make a long-term investment into an individual who gives themselves away like a free sample at fucking costco? Who would BUY a free sample?!
this why I have given up on western women

This is literally what a women would say

Stay assravaged lmao, the demand for your pussy is only going to drop further as more men realize the scam they're getting into by submitting to their primal instincts.

I don't think I'll ever marry a Swedish woman desu, call me a cuck all you want, but trying cleaning out all of that post modern feminism isn't worth it.

Ofcourse if I ever meet a "red pilled" woman I would persue it.

In Uni right now, I have not met one in my life so far.

I'm not asking for somebody thinking
>1488 gas the kikes, 545467946 dead cops

Just a reasonable person that realizes that western society will go down the drain without conservative values.

Pic related.

So... MGTOW are cucks?

Im with OP on this.

I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she really really wants to get married. I don't see the purpose of getting married at all. It's getting to the point where i just might leave her. She treats me like shit without even knowing it. The house is full of HER shit. Life should be simple but yet here she is making it complicated on every level.. and im supposed to want to marry that? lol yeah right.

>what kind of bullshit is that?
a senseful and realistic one

hey, not wanting to get married means there's something wrong with you, like maybe bad upbringing, bad experience, or maybe insecurity. doesn't mean you MUST listen to other people.

and yes i know i'm wrong, i've accepted it. do i like it ? i hate it everyday with passion

ALL LESBIANS NEED TO BE PUT TO DEATH
BBEHEAD THOSE WHO REJECT THE MASCULINE, THIS MEANS ANY MEN WHO HAVEN'T DONE GAY THINGS

a virgin is just like a child who hasn't been introduced to candy and ice cream.

One of those people is about to make a long-term commitment to some dumb bitch who has fucked dozens of random "fun" guys before him and once she is faced with the reality of a long-term monogamously exclusive partnership, will inevitably stray and have sex with a yoga instructor or any number of men who don't share even remotely the same level of emotional investment.

The other is pulling in a massive grouper.

Who won?

I was raised by my betacuck dad.

>not wanting to get married means there's something wrong with you
welp, I disagree with your opinion
I do want to get married to women I love
I just never met her yet
I do not just want to "get married" because that is retarded concept, marrying somebody just for the sake of being married

insecure people deserve happiness too

nope, pic related are cucks
I have yet to see MGTOW who likes to watch his GF getting fucked before his eyes

>Not making more white qts for me to plow.

That's actually a perfect analogy

Most females who lose their virginity later really do "snap" and turn into massive whores, mostly fueled by a desire to fill the attention they lacked for so long. I know that because that applies to males as well. The only ones who would somehow be content with close to no sex or different partners are the ones who can't get them

What the heck is MGTOW?

I bet you are from a single parent household.

This is a fantastic picture, thanks.

What you want are the girls who have only had sex within the confines of long-term exclusive relationships. The girls who have been tested in the arena of commitment and passed.

Most men would prefer to date a girl who has slept with 1 guy 1000 times rather than a girl who has slept with 1000 guys 1 time.

I believe in a form of reincarnation
I'd like the chance to be white again
In a society where white knighting faggots have died off and women are kept in line
(post economic collapse)
marriage is the best place to raise children

Someone who tries only one flavor thinks hey this is pretty good and is happy with it, but after trying two or more you begin to make comparisons and imagine possibilities.

Men Going Their Own Way
Definition varies from dudes who do not chase pussy to hardcore female haters

pic fucking related :DDDD

>not wanting to involve the state in your relationship means there's something wrong with you

Sure thing, hoss.

Fucking hell. Do these people actually not realize the only reason men "dated" them was for the easy pussy? And that they have 0 actual personality or interesting things about them, so when the time comes to settle down they have nothing at all to offer?

you have seen nothing spurdo
check this one and think again about thinking that women inherently are better than men

>Prove me wrong.
Can't.

The issue is trust. Part of that issue is the issue of women thinking they know what they want, because they don't.

The Alpha sexualizer and Beta provider is a problem. Betas can pretend to be alphas if they hit the gym on the regular, and treat women like shit from time to time just for good measure.

This is not a healthy long term relationship, though. Unfortunately, being a beta provider doesn't make for a healthy long term relationship either because women just want to be lead, no matter how much they speak to the contrary.

Of course, feminism has made this infinitely worse of a problem to solve than worth putting in the effort.

Lol, no, it will just lead to a world full of dumb, smelly subhumans who shit in the streets and worship cows.

or maybe they're curious about how the strawberry ones taste like, after hearing ""reviews"" from their friends.

well, to be brutally honest, most people only "date" for easy pussy
Not many people actually want to put effort into building stable and healthy relationship

If your wife is red pilled, marriage can be a great thing. We got married and her parents bought her a house. I start living frugally and save money, I buy a house too. Our financial power is so much greater now. Rent cut in half. Able to pool funds together for houses and investments. Twice as much income to pay for luxuries like cars in lump sum, rather than on credit.

here is some user's opinion on Alphas and Betas and Epsilons

I want to have children

Well I guess
>They'll go their own way
>Go their own way
>They'll call it
>Another lonely day
>They'll go their own way
>Go their own way

Makes even more sense then tbqhwyf

I do not get the refference, is that from some ye olde Green Day song?

find good woman, marry her, have children
Good luck user, you will need it

>sex is not a big deal to me
This is literally the reddest of flags. How can ANYONE possibly find ANYTHING positive in that statement?

If I went on a date, and she drops that line, I would instantly lose all interest in her.

Fleetwood Mac
youtu.be/6ul-cZyuYq4

Way better band.

She got used as a fleshlight and confused the easy alleviation of sexual drive for popularity.

Common mistake among fat chicks.

Jew.

>tfw I saw that post happen live
>tfw r9k is now a shithole infested with mentally insane traps, attention-whoring "fembots", meme-spouting underageb&s, and orbiting enablers.

Pretty much. I find the very idea of becoming "good enough" to satisfy one uppity cunt exhausting. And I'd also have to pretend to be something that I am not, which is someone that treats women like peaces of meat.

Modern feminism teaches men to basically not make any moves on women, else sexual harassment and/or rape. However, they also would never ever encourage a woman to make the first move, so the guys still have to do it anyway if they want to date. All this does, is make getting a date even more risky for men.

The jews ruined women through cultural perversion yet expect you to save them in the end and lock yourself into marriage with a mortgage so you can be a happy little tax farm while she fucks the mailman all week.

Men living for themselves breaks the jewish system.

Not to mention recordings of mexican cartels torturing and killing people
>mfw

However, as a daughter of divorced parents I agree that marriage has very little to offer to a man. There's literally nothing wrong in having children without being married.

if i was told the happiest day of my life would be being alone fish in the sea, id kill myself instantly

Reminds me of this.

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>All you need is a woman who agrees.

user, I...

Hmm. Outside of gaming, to what does this apply? Fantastic description though.

I want an ai robot gf. She will be taller, and stronger than me, and we would cuddle and i would be the little spoon.

I shall check it out, thank you user

At least in Poland sex is still kind of taboo if not in commited relationship, casual fucks are rare

everything were better in the past, trees were higher and sausages were more tasty

God damn it I've seen it 2 times, never let woman play tabletop RPGs with you

I already have it, thanks for effort though

it applies to every hobby that can be casualised so every participant can feel more welcome
So, it applies to everything everywhere

...

I already told my mom and dad that i will not have kids, they're super pissed off at me, i rateher fuck around and kind of adopt one of my nephews once i'm old and leave all my shit to him.

dude should have married a colombian chick. bitch would've taken care of him the rest of his life... being grateful for taking her out of slavery

EDM, music festivals in general.

You have no idea how fast women get "westernized"

It's hardwired for them to constantly be on the lookout for more more more more more

there is no universal rule that girls from one country or the other are better than those from different countries
I bet that if I looked hard enough I could find beatiful german girl and redpilled australian chick

I don't know what kind of westernized shithole you are living in. Last time I checked, we still have our women in control.

OP is right.
Not MGTOW, but basically excommunicating females.
Think about it , what do females contribute in a relationship ? A baby. Get a surrogate, or even better, wait for artificial wombs, or at least human cloning.
Plus, imminen AI robot waifus. Maryying now when women are so close to go out of relevance is like shoving a cactus up your ass when you can buy quality butt plugs. One is the better choice, and you won't regret sinking time and money into it.

Your women are the biggest whores on college campuses.

Something about asian and indian chicks makes them go fucking crazy the second their dad isn't around. I know one that fucked 8 frat guys in her first month freshman year.

There really, absolutely should be more balance. Women are required NOTHING in a relationship. Everything you expect is sexist, but they can have a laundry-list of rules that they won't communicate to you. All this is of course made possible by men who go along with it.

The thing is, I don't expect anything to change, because it is a fact that men and women are biologically different.

>spreading your genes
I don't understand this. Why do I have to care about spreading my genes? I really don't care about what happens to my genes.
Will I understand this when I get old or something? What's the catch?

>what do females contribute in a relationship ?
depends on what kind of female are you in relationship with
I actually know few commited relationships where girl is actually not ball and chain that slows dude down, it enhances and inspires them

jesus fucking christ if this is true the btich is an animal worse than dog

That is why your genes are shit.

Wait are you allowed to fuck women as a MGTOW?

I'm talking about women that are in India. Of course they become whores after you feed them your western values of "independent" women.
Not that I care because there are too many women here. I guess that's an upside to being overpopulated? :^)

yeah, just don't date them or spend money on them

I see you've taken the infamous redpill.

yes, but dont commit

So it's fine if I don't spread them right?

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Aren't most of your attractive women essentially sold off to harems for wealthy men?

Isn't that what the Caste system does?

Either way, indian women smell like shit. The whole country smells like shit. You have fun entering their Vagandes.

>muh traditionalism

I'm married with three children. Ages 17, 10 and 6.
Also white - my wife is Highland Scottish, I'm northern English. pic is where we live.

What is wrong with traditionalism?
Bringing up kids well, being polite, eating good home cooked food, respecting other people, being generous, providing for others without self need. Being strong but gentle. Obeying the law, keeping a clean home, and above all, love for other humans.

what's so special about it then kek
virtually nobody commits nowadays, not even women

because its hard to do when love hits you

Women follow group consensus, m8. They are also biologically driven to fuck hot guys then find lesser men to support her.

I doubt you would be able to find a woman that gives a shit about traditionalism these days.

there is no win here
You marry and slave away to vaginal jew, you are cuck
You do not marry and live empty life - you are degenerate

I believe in golden rule, so fuck your bullshit assertion Greece

Beta males do. Then they end up divorced and living in a trailer while the wife fucks jamaal in what was previously his house.

Stop getting relationship advice from copypastas and /r9k/ memes you cringy permavirgin weirdo

>dat fühl when no traditionalist wife and white children

Traditionalism is ideal

Good luck finding that in the age of social media.

yeah but who is able to love in a world where your high school sweetheart fucks dozens of randos just to make a point about not caring about you anymore

souls this pure must really suffer

A prostitute is more loyal then a wife in current year.

>cringy permavirgin weirdo
Roastie detected

>Roastie

Back to your containment board genetic failure. We don't want weak effeminate manchildren on Cred Forums

Also stop repeating /r9k/ and reddit memes you cancerous tard.

>Good luck finding that in the age of social media.
Go to orthodox churches.
I've seen it personally how many players become religious.They experience the degeneracy first hand and see that people are weak and need to be controlled by some sort of religion or civilizations fall.
Orthodox is the only uncucked sect of christianity.

Or Islam. I won't judge.
This is the result of you wanting "muh science fuck yeah" and eliminating religions from society. You reap what you sow.

>unironically entering relationships with women
>not just waiting for artificial wombs to make women completely obsolete

>prostitute
>loyal
yes, but loyal to your bucks, not to you
at least she is upfront about it

>Aren't most of your attractive women essentially sold off to harems for wealthy men?
>Isn't that what the Caste system does?
Nah, don't believe whatever the media feeds you. It's nothing like that here.

>Either way, indian women smell like shit.
Atleast they are not getting screwed by immigrants and foreigners :^)

>yeah but who is able to love in a world where your high school sweetheart fucks dozens of randos just to make a point about not caring about you anymore

i dont know man, for me love simply hits and its painful and hard to cut myself off
all those mgtow stories backed with my own expierience make it a bit easier to stay noncomitted

A proper woman wants to be married. And by proper, I mean women who understands the values of monogamy and the family unit. A proper woman recognizes that sleeping around with random men is, at best, fleeting happiness and not long-term. There are women like this who exist, but they are consistently pressured into being "strong independent womyn" or, their fellow women ruin the reputations of marriage. Gold diggers, or women who marry then quickly divorce for money should be gassed. It's saddening that men are so turned of to marriage now, but I believe the view of marriage has been skewed by a vicious cycle of fem-nazis and beta males controlling the narrative.

I agree that the government is far too involved in marriage, which is why it has such a soiled reputation. Divorces are hell (been through one) and it's the most disgusting display on money grabbing I have ever seen.

this was written by some r9k lord with the specific intention of making you angry m8

just don't commit. women love pump and dump as much as you do

I was raised strict catholic. If you think catholic girls are any different you haven't heard of the poophole loophole.

Aw... Good for you guys, user.

>We don't want weak effeminate manchildren on Cred Forums
you should leave then, your faggotry is showing

there is nothing wrong in being in relationship with women
there is everything wrong in allowing having relationship with women to define every single thing in your life

You could spend 1,450 on a Prostitute to fuck you or you could spend it on an ex-wife who will fuck you.

You realize that his wife is LIKELY shagging the Shepard next farm over right?

Good job goy.

don't do it, it's current year. Forget about the tax breaks you'll get, it takes money out of our pockets.

It'll automatically raise your perceived level of integrity and cause you get better paying jobs. Again taking money out of our pockets goy.

It'll improve your chances of reproducing and raising children in a loving home that will then succeed to greater heights than you. Again creating successful offspring would introduce competition which would take money out of our pockets.

Falling for the Jew, not even once.

Science has nothing to do with religion you fuckwit.

>2016
>Getting relationship advice from ugly autistic 24 year old virgins

I seriously hope you guys don't do that

religious communities are full of hypocrites

Marriage is bullshit anyways, you can have a family and not get fucked over by marriage if shit hits the fan.

I have a girlfriend, and she's perfectly fine with that.
I also don't want kids, but I'll have that discussion when her clock starts ticking.

>Enhancing and inspiring
I got a family, and few good friends who'll support me through any problems in my life. Why do you think that me, or any other man would want a woman just for support and inspiration ?
Also, I'll repeat:
>AI WAIFUS

>Prove me wrong.
>>>

if you live in Illinois you lose parental rights but still have to pay child support

basically there is no reason to not get sterilized

>spending 1,450 on a single prostitue
Are you aware that this amount of money could buy you entire night with high tier escort, or multiple fucks with cheaper whores?

What you call love is mostly just lust. You'll understand when you're older.

You're not even sure what words are coming out of your brain, are you?

Not every woman wants to fuck 1,000 dudes. While outliers do not disprove the majority, there are still women who find sleeping around personally self degrading.

when?
when im 40? 50?
im 29 now btw
maybe you simply didnt feel love, my mate.
hah, he handled it perfectly, i wish i had that much self restraint

Which community isn't?
You hear liberals going "SCIENCE FUCK YEAH!" but when you point them the IQ differences between countries suddenly it's not so fuck yeah.

Ideally you want to find a religious community which hasn't been changing much till this day. The churches in USA are all happy rainbow singing bitches.

The full article is fucking amazing.

Every person in her life was telling her "Stay with your fiance. He is a good man. You will be happy together". Even her dad.

She couldn't resist the lure of chad though. She left her fiance, who cried and begged her to stay, for some italian artist. Sure enough he cheated on her repeatedly and within a year or so she was done with him. She tried to get back into contact with her fiance later only to discover he was happily married to a prettier girl and had a child on the way.

Women have to be strictly controlled by society. They mature faster than men in the same way they grow faster than men, yet get passed by men who eventually tower over them. Women mature sexually very quick but maintain the mind of a child. Men mature to that level around the age of 23, and then surpass them.

We have to control them. They can't make decisions for themselves. It's like letting a 10 year old drive.

Women don't want to fuck 1000 dudes. They want to fuck men they see as superior to the men they are currently fucking. It's called hypergamy. When women cheat they cheat UP.

This is how Julius Cesar fucked all of his senator's wives to establish dominance. He didn't rape them.

I've heard multiple men say their sex drive took a noticeable dive when they turned 35. I cannot confirm personally, but I am looking forward to finding out.

Dated an acquaintance for a few months. Everything was great. Thought it had promise. She tells me she doesn't want a relationship for whatever reason but I'm sure a A girl friend influenced her to stay single and "have fun". Few months later she wants to start over, another month in and she wants to be my long term so bad. I'm just like ok sure I'm supposed to forget that shit from before and give it 100%? Sure

This image fails to mention you should be Chad instead of being a whiney bitch nerd. My help ends here. Less competition means more pucci for me.

>When women cheat they cheat UP.
ha!

But there are no proper women left, user, and I'm not exaggerating when I claim so.
Trust me, all those frat parties, watching all those supposedly "innocent" girls being passed around faster than a blunt, its just too much.
All those cheating women, all those friends whose wives cheated on them while they were in bumfuckistan putting their ass on the line, I've seen them all.
I agree with you. But simply, the proper women you talk about do not exist.
In ye olde days, women were taught to act like ladies, a proper woman with grace.
These days, they're taught feminsim, freethenipple, notallMuslims , freebleeding,patriarchy and blacklivesmatter.
Hell, when you see feminists with their bleeding cunts just parading around in shithole supposedly "traditional" countries (many East European slav countries, hell, even India), you just know how deep this goes.
It's a lost cause.

Dude, shit just happens.
I'm younger than you and have had a steady relationship for 3 years atm.
You don't look for love, it just happens, simple as that.

In the meantime, enjoy being single.

I guarantee she had a better option than you on the back-burner and she was waiting to see how it would pan out. Women are very pragmatic when it comes to mate-selection. If they can't get the QB, they will shift down to the WR. Once they QB becomes available, they dump the WR and make their move.

They are natural sociopaths.

They do exist though.

Im in the exact same position. Except she didnt ask for me back, she just seems to be trying to push her way back and is constantly inviting herself into things she sees me doing on social media.

Those that take traditionalism and right wing conservatism into politics are naive.

Because they think you unsqueeze all that toothpaste.

no shit, i think you misunderstood me somehow

love happens to me but due to my previous failures and mgtow memes i try to stay noncomitted but its hard

Yeah and they are married early, so they're irrelevant.

Where are you finding these proper women?

I already live in the country and was a regular at church so if those are your answers you're dreaming.

The single way to fix marriage is to fix divorce laws. I could marry and knock up your average girl (which the bible would call a whore btw) if I didn't have to risk everything to do it. Inevitably she will spend 15 years watching tv telling her she deserves more, men are oppressing women, she's not happy she needs to go to Italy and fuck a stranger and I will be cucked by the government living in a van down by the river under the current system.

AI waifus are not plausible for now my brownish friend

yeah, sure, go fuck billions of girls, drown in alimony. I will be happy with my tomato bushes

You can promote an ideal without it being viable. It's something to aspire to at least.

Jesus fucking christ, this made me kek hard.

Thanks, user.

The Iwishaniggawouldist politics

The only way is THROUGH.

t.socialist

It was my pleasure my old ally

>You can promote an ideal without it being viable. It's something to aspire to at least
THIS
Even if you are not ideal, you should aspire to be better, in every way you want it

Women have beta males and white supremacists white knighting them all the while they parasitically destroy the majority of men's ability to function in society.

How can you be so paranoid about how greedy Jews are and yet be okay with women who initiate 70% of all divorces and get 97% of all spousal support?

There's a reason marriages have plummeted by 40% since the 1960s and it has nothing to do with what men have been doing.

And you can bash all the effeminate manchildren on r9k you want, but rich and powerful people aren't immune. Johnny Depp has fame, fortune, and a fucking island and it still wasn't enough. Listen to how psycho Mel Gibson became because of how awful they are. Tiger Woods' wife stole $750 million dollars and took his children from him and all she ever did was look pretty.

Nothing is ever good enough for them. It's everywhere.

But it's okay if you're not strong enough to embrace the bleak truth r9k has immersed itself in. We can't all be strong enough to face facts and struggle with their consequences.

One is dating me, so not quite that irrelevant to me.

This friend of hers had a couple guy friends from work. She obsessed over them but they friend zoned her hard. Only hung out with her for her friends. Typical game shit. I told my girl her friend is a naive train wreck waiting to happen and what these guy friends were up to. Always overheard how funny (obnoxious boys) they were but whenever I was around, total change in behavior trying to bro with me. They knew I could see right through them. When I told the girl I was seeing, "oh no they're not like that! Stop being mean! Blah blah". Sure enough a couple weeks later and we're over.

I guess she's trying to make up for it but I just don't care enough anymore. Great relationship potential huh

youtube.com/watch?v=QgQDJb40rUE

>tries to think of alphas
>names two of the biggest cucks on the face of the planet
lol I'm nothing impressive, actually pretty repulsive and even I can lead a woman.
5'10" 260 all fat. If I can do it, you can I'm sure.

>taking Hollywood "marriages" seriously

Take her off the pedestal. Most men feel that way about the women they date because anything negative directed towards her is interpreted as a slight against their own ego.

You will idealize and romanticize her right up until she feels that you aren't there enough for her and seeks the thrill of sending nudes to a "close male friend"

Keep an eye on her beta orbiters.

With the abundance of scat floating around in rio, it doesnt surprise me

the thing you dont realize is that when a hatchetwound complains, nobody fucking cares,
when a man rejects a woman it matters because men matter and women dont.

These threads are hubs for sad people who've had too many "bad" things happen to them.

Regardless of whatever delusional realities people paint here, the fact is that there are millions and of men and women, they are all different, some women are good, some are bad, some men are good, some are bad, and while people whine on these threads about the black and white ways that they view reality, better men and women will be enjoying beautiful lifelong relationships and marriages with their soul mates.

This.

High value men of any kind are slamming ass like you wouldn't believe. The idea that an earthly god would resign himself to one woman when he can choose from an available pool of billions, is lunacy.

Society isn't ready to swallow that reality yet so when guys like Tiger Woods fuck some of the women that throw themselves at him HOURLY, they think he's an asshole.

You don't find a woman to share interests with you, you find a woman to share a family with you. dating a tomboy is fucking hell anyways.

>soul mates

That's cringey as hell, you simpy faggot. Go get your balls back.

nah, complaining is waste of oxygen
people should just shut up and make it better

MGTOW=\=Feminism reversed

I have not a single thing to worry about.
Her, I can actually trust.
It's good having a girl who's a bit more old fashioned.

Of course she has her flaws.
But stuff like what you're implying has 0 chance.

That said, I'm still not gonna fall for the marriage trap.

Women adopt the interests and quirks of their boyfriend as a method of obtaining commitment. They fool you into thinking you found a 1 in a billion girl when in reality, when you break up, she will change who she is within a week for the next guy.

>I have not a single thing to worry about.
>Her I can trust

Test her.

>ahehehe the good boyim will never know!

List some of the things MGTOW has accomplished for men.

Check out my not dubs.

and that will prove what?

>MGTOW RED PILL
Homosexual deviants try to seduce naive straight males by pretending to bond a mutual hatred of women and then using alcohol and drugs to take advantage of them.
Pro Tip: faggots are master manipulators

Convince me MGTOW aren't giant manbabies.

It will prove your point. Nice Hitler dubs.

Just because a faggot convinced you to suck his dick it doesn't mean everyone else is just as gullible.

Most men are without realizing it. Most of the greatest advancements in man's history have been made by men who died virgins.

The alpha men of society form harems around them and their friends, sons, etc. This produces a net deficit of available women for everyone else so the men who don't get laid typically pursue other interests like hobbies, science, whatever the fuck,

convince me that woman are not giant moneyeaters with no value except pussy whatsoever
See? 2 can play this
>convince me
bullshit

tits or gtfo

>everything is homosexual degeneracy

I'm not a psychotherapist but I think you have cocks on the brain.

Itt

Faggots who have never lived with a female other then mom or sister.
Stfu the lot of you. Fucking betas.

>projecting

I've fucked my fair share of women and that's how I became convinced they are nothing but insane trouble.

kek
thats why I preffer trannies

what point? I am just funposting around

>2016
>Thinking marriage would ever benefit men
Lmao

kek

ITT: My life is shit, therefore I must convince others to live my shitty life.

No wonder these people are fucking mocked.

Good thin my qt3.14 gf who I love thinks marriage is dumb. But she also said she "loves me forever, and cant imagine a world with us no longer together"
Get wreeecked dorks

>who I love thinks marriage is dumb

Red fucking flag.

if your life is shit just because you do not have instant pussy access around, you should stop breathing, you are wasting oxygen

I too like to brag to internet weirdos from time to time

Same here my man

inb4hurrshescheatingonuwithchad/jamalandujustdontknowitxdddddd

then kill yourself fucking faggot

let me guess, one of those cringe r-eddit antinatalists? kek

She likes being choked

In my experience most woman do.

Don't they all?
I'd be more surprised if some girl didn't like choking.

what the fuck is
>r-eddit antinatalists
I enjoy my own life, and if I happen to meet right girl, whom I will love in love with, I shall take her with me and struggle to make her happy, to be happy with her, because this is how this world works
But for now, I can funpost, play vidya, and fart loudly with my doggo

Whenever nobody responds I kind of don't know what people think of what I say.

Just want anyone reading to know I hope what I said doesn't turn anyone into a bitter fuck like me. Honestly if you're well-adjusted good for you.

Try not to get caught in the vortex of despair. It's not fun constantly rationalizing yourself into being miserable. Hopefully your thought patterns and life experiences are better than mine have been.

this, seriously we have figured women out. they are demons

Never understood the logic behind women.

>finally find a guy worth a shit
>"oh noes, my life is passing by I must experience things and open his mind"
>blurt out the stupid ideas and get their relationship wrecked
>"I don't understand! I did nothing but suggest I could whore around while he puts up with it"
>trust gone forever since she reveled her true colors

Fuck man I give props to that guy for not putting up with that shit. Fuck that cunt, fuck her shit.

had to complete 6 captchas just now, I bet women run Cred Forums

this isnt feminism this is retardation

men can fuck over women's lives just as easily btw, sorry your judicial system is fucked

>logic behind women.
there is none

When you are 60 years old you will be lynched by nigger muslims.

>90737663
>Atleast they are not getting screwed by immigrants and foreigners :^)

You mean like...People looking and smelling like you?...Oh darn it.

>implying this is mine judicial system

>men can fuck over women's lives just as easily
yeah, and probably some do that too, but not as angrily and violently, and as common as women fuck mens life

You think I haven't?

Seriously though, that dude is lucky that she was honest enough to be upfront and ask him that question before they got married.

Having followed the men's rights movement for a long time and MGTOW for about as long I can tell you that you motherfuckers have been conned. MGTOW is not some lofty goal to be attained. It's not freedom, it's loneliness.

You basically become the equivalent of the fat aging feminist crazy cat ladies. Mainly because MRAs are really shit at accomplishing anything. So you come to think that the logical place is to boycott marriage and dating.

It's all because you see the inequities and you wait for other mother fuckers to sue the government for you. So when there are false rape cases, and obvious discrimination you don't think to ask Paul Elam to fork over some of his money to help pay for legal fees or any of the activists raking in money. Instead you think, hey let's become a male bitch hermit instead and wait for everyone else to sort things out.

>MGTOW is not some lofty goal to be attained. It's not freedom, it's loneliness.
and how that differs from usual loneliness?
Want a companion? Get a dog

but women only want to be trated with love

I don't consider myself MGTOW but I am 34 single, never married, have a successful career which lets me plenty of free time and money. Own a home and 2 cars, very comfy. I don't wanna trade all of my possessions for a vapid, self entitled and government enabled gold diggers.

Also, I am not depressed, bitter nor lonely, have friends and they know my views on marriage and just ignore it. I have no attachments, I answer to no one but my job. I have a hefty 401k and savings account. I travel wherever and whenever I want, Life is good.
It's all because you see the inequities and you wait for other mother fuckers to sue the government for you. So when there are false rape cases, and obvious discrimination you don't think to ask Paul Elam to fork over some of his money to help pay for legal fees or any of the activists raking in money. Instead you think, hey let's become a male bitch hermit instead and wait for everyone else to sort things out.

Dude I've seen article after article of male abuse. I've seen how bad it is, but instead of fixing things you dumbasses just like to bitch and complain. You devote yourself to self-improvement, working out, etc. but what's the point if no one sees it?

All of this shit is cognitive dissonance. You dislike women and their bullshit but all you do is spend your time bitching about women to other MGTOW and talking about how you don't need them. You spend all your time thinking and talking about women, just like feminists with men. You are like a step away from being a political gay.

All of this is happening because MRAs failed you and you are too stupid to admit it. So you let people who fail at life advise you on how to improve your life which is the exact opposite of going your own way.

>but women only want to be trated with love
love is all I ever asked for, and only thing I recieved in exchange for multiple favors for multiple girls was ignoring me, and lies
I will keep on my struggle to find good girl, but if I won't find her, so be it
Vidya is joy of my life either way

what is your career and educational background?

>You devote yourself to self-improvement, working out, etc. but what's the point if no one sees it
>if no one sees it
struggle not for somebody else to see, improve to be better person
Are you shallow faggot who does stuff just for aproval of other shallow faggots?

>love is all I ever asked for, and only thing I recieved in exchange for multiple favors for multiple girls was ignoring me, and lies

Polskibro, I...

So basically like a feminist who had some bad experiences with guys and decide every man is a misogynistic asshole, you do the exact thing with women and become a perpetual victim forever wallowing in misery and self-pity.

do not worry mate
I am liar too, and I am better at ignoring people than they are
I find my joy in simple stuff, like books, my animals, my friends, my vidya
I never allowed lack of gf to make me miserable, and I never will allow it

ok pajeet

>hurr durr MGTOWS are Feminists too goy, you must marry and pay for older generations mistakes, participating in perpetual scam of social justice economy
I do not wallow in misery, nor in self pity. I have my life and I enjoy it.

Who here thinks they are or can be more alpha then the hulk ?
dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2065541/Hulk-Hogans-ex-wife-Linda-scores-70-WWE-stars-assets-divorce-wrestle.html

How is it shallow to point out that people fix themselves up for others? The truth is you want to feel like a catch, and it gets your dick hard to imagine girls being attracted to you, and you being able to dismiss them. Probably because you had a bad experience or two with abusive cunts. You might meet a nice girl, but instead of giving that girl a chance you're more interested in wallowing in your own bullshit.

they should have wrestlemania match over marriage assets

It's retarded, all a woman has to do to strike it rich is marry a rich dude and divorce him. Why does she deserve a fraction of what the guy made on his own? And they call this justice.

lel. I alway find people like you entertaining. Are you really going to play with toys for the next 60 years of your life?

What about when you hit 40 and your friends are all dealing with their own family life and don't have time to go to the club with you like you would have been doing for the last 20 years?

Oh shit now your 50 and your friends are starting to die and you have no one in your life. Actually attractive girls want none of it and its too late to start a family.

Oh shit your sixty and all alone, if you were lucky you might even be wealthy! Cool! Now what?

Look, I don't get people that don't have kids. I have lived a very, very privileged lifestyle. Not because I am white but because my parents gave me a lot of money. Ive traveled all over the world, lived in much of europe, partied, drank. done drugs from ny to budapest to seoul. Its not that fucking great. I look at DINKs and singles and career focused women that really really want to have all this shit and you just don't get it. It's fun but it's a small part of life and you'll get sick of it pretty quickly. Honestly the fun wore off for me after around three months.

Then I quit, started working, and am now looking forward to starting a family.

I don't even have that much money - but just look at super rich people, most of them end up having families even though they could literally be doing anything they want. If they, with resources that you will never ever have, decide that it is something important, why the fuck would you deprive yourself of it so you could spend slightly more on inane video games, get a slightly nicer car, or a slightly bigger house (not that youll need it, may as well get a studio).

It truly boggles my mind.

There is no way to save muh white race without stopping shitskins from making babies faster

any man who gets married, then divorced, then married again is non-alpha. He might be a big dude who can lift Andre the Giant but that doesn't make him alpha.

>turn 40
>buy motorcycle
>buy boat
>laugh at friends who are dealing with bitchy wives and children

>people fix themselves up for others
this statement is wrong, people fix themselves for themselves
>You might meet a nice girl, but instead of giving that girl a chance you're more interested in wallowing in your own bullshit.
I gave more than one girl a chance, but I am not interested in convincing girls that I am some sort of supermale. I know my worth, my skills, my pros and cons. If she wants to tag along for the ride of her life, sure, c'mon, if she does not, tough tits, I lived 25 years of my life alone, and it became comfy as fuck
Also, you sound like a grill

>Are you really going to play with toys for the next 60 years of your life
Yes, that is what guys do, only toys got more expensive and fun

you forgot
>leather jacket and black glasses

You just gotta keep hunting out there to find the girl that's for you I used to think this philosophy but i think it's a bit dumb

Some folks will get lucky. If 40-50% of marriages end in divorce, 50-60% don't. Still doesn't mean they are all happy, but some percentage of that will be. And that's great if you can find a friend/partner like that.

In my case, raised two awesome kids and then divorced. Overall, that's fine with me. For you youngsters, if your kids turn out good, they are worth all the trouble/money/BS/crazy. If not, you lose twice.

Ultimately it's a crap shoot - there are good outcomes and bad. For those lucky ones with good wives and good kids, congrats. If you get one or the other, it's probably OK. But taking that roll of the dice - some are going to end up with a fucking crazy, crack whore of a wife and defective, delinquent kids. They lose hard.

So the question you have to ask yourself - do you feel lucky?

Pretty much nailed the whole reason most people are dropping out.

We know it's about sacrifices for the offspring, but the risks for those children you bring into the world are far too great and outweigh the benefits of bringing life into the world. Some of us here were raised by single parents. We know how much our fathers had to pay in child support. Not risking that shit.

34 and on Cred Forums, yep you are truly that to which we should all aspire.

How does this really differ from feminists who've given up on men? It's all about giving yourself a sense of control but even that is an illusion, because women are still controlling your life. You're living a life avoiding abusive women, meaning that they still control and mold your entire existence.

>everyone on Cred Forums is a basement dweller

It isn't 2005 anymore bro

>You're living a life avoiding abusive women, meaning that they still control and mold your entire existence.

You're living a life where you avoid being eaten by tigers. Does that mean tigers control your entire existence?

Logic.

I can't believe no one noticed the trips

>How does this really differ from feminists who've given up on men?
For example: I do not paint my hair in bright colors and yell
>KILL ALL WHITE MAN

>You're living a life avoiding abusive women, meaning that they still control and mold your entire existence.
So wait, If i live my life avoiding catching HIV, it actually controls my entire life?
You are wrong in your assumptions that I give a shit

Sounds like a midlife crisis to me. Maybe because you'll realize around 40 that you threw your life away?

Anyway, for the love of god don't buy a boat. You think kids are a money hole... wait until your teak trim get fucked up by a storm or your onboard plumbing gets fucked up. Not to mention the cost of fiberglass work, yuck. Plus slip fees, rigging, my god dude. Just rent a fucking boat.

White women are the devils spwan.

yes, indeed devil spwan
But there are no other colors of women where I live, and even if there would be, I do not want to catch HIV, or have dictionary every time I want to talk to my girl

If you aren't with someone that will stay with you with out being married then that is the smallest bump you will encounter in marriage and they weren't worth marrying in the first place.

Most people encounter potential candidates for healthy marriages whether that is until you both die or until you send your kid off to college it is far from hopeless.

There are economic reasons behind both marrying and not marrying.

But your a fool to make a blanket statement such as marriage is broken and doesn't work. The odds are against you but then again consider how many people make poor decisions in every other part of their life why would this one be different.

Happily married 15 years with 2 beautiful children. Although in my youth I was this close to proposing to my first love and that would have been a colossal mistake which I am glad to have avoided.

>be 40
>be established in career
>have boatloads of money
>be banging women ranging in age from 20-40
>have house

>life thrown away

You realize most of the mid-life crisis guys are idiots who have multiple kids, a mortgage, and fat wife and freak out thinking about all the fun they missed out on? They buy a motorcycle trying to recapture it and it just looks silly because all the stress of the daily existence has made them look like a goofy dad.

>Maybe because you'll realize around 40 that you threw your life away
I never got this argument and I never will
Who the fuck are you to tell him, other human being, that is life is worthless because he do not share your values?
Or maybe it is You, the Almighty God, shitposting from France, because it is nothing else to do there, because there are no Christians left?

marriage is a bond between soulmates and a contract to society u will find it when the time is right and the right person comes around OP god has his perfect timing and ordinances and everyone loves someone out there beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I am still waiting to find the unicorn and marry her
I don't want to throw my life away and rise kids have a shitty life because of divorce like my life was

maybe its not your lucky year OP you have to look at your zodiac chart