If capitalism is so efficient, why does anyone die of diseases that have a cure?

Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

If capitalism is so efficient, why does anyone die of diseases that have a cure?

I mean, we have the medicine and we have the sick people. Capitalism just can't get the medicine to the sick people.

Capitalism has outlived its usefulness.

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Ethan Perez
Ethan Perez

i think you mean retardation not capitalism

Samuel Cook
Samuel Cook

Nice fridge op.

Adam Watson
Adam Watson

If Socialism is so efficient, why does anyone die of starvation?

I mean, they have the food, and they have the hungry people. Socialism just can't get the food to the hungry people.

Socialism has outlived its usefulness.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

Infectious disease with a cure is cured now. Pathologies like obesity, alcoholism, smoking and doing other stupid shit have a cost effective cure already. Quit. Some cancers don't have a cure yet. Some people are genetically disposed to disease. Culling the herd is the cure.We just don't use it.

Owen Richardson
Owen Richardson

Because people aren't a very valuable commodity.

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

What are you even talking about? What curable diseases?

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

capitalism is pretty effecient desu

Amazon and dominos off the top of my head are making huge leaps and bounds for customer satisfaction.

Because of demand, we now have a lot of customer support coming back from India to the states.

Ayden Anderson
Ayden Anderson

Only when you live in shitholes like USA that have no universal healthcare.
get cancer in USA
pay 300.000$ für treatment
get cancer in Germany
treatment is free

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

why does anyone die of diseases that have a cure?
Like what?

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

Yeah I forgot that in germany chemotherapy drugs just appear out of the aether

You fucking retarded faggot

Nicholas Young
Nicholas Young

wtf I love merkel now

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

talking shit about capitalism
with those tits posted.

Asher King
Asher King

why are you kidding yourself?

Have a serious illness in Europe that isn't a cold or a generic treatment
get put on a wait list for months

at least in the states our hospitals are god-tier

Eli Diaz
Eli Diaz

don't get cancer
pay 3000.000 in healthcare taxes for people that do over your lifetime
;^)

Michael Thompson
Michael Thompson

not knowing about vaccines
Yeah, you're a genius, wow. wtf I hate capitalism now

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

I bet you think companies have a cure for cancer but don't sell it because they make more money from treating it?

Fucking moron. KYS

Carson Smith
Carson Smith

keeping people alive no matter what is efficient
Capitalism BTFO I guess...

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

How do you think a company comes up with a price for it's drug? It takes tons of money and investment to create one drug, they have to recoup that plus make a profit. That profit incentive has driven the creation of countless new drugs and medicines.

Ayden Roberts
Ayden Roberts

What kind of retarded shit is this? Where is the argument?

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

Totally agree hans. Fuck this country's insurance companies, hosptial "non-profits", doctors, medical schools, MBAs that run the hospitals, janitors who work at hospitals, fuck them too.

Ian Long
Ian Long

There is cures for tons of shit, but in the USA the medicare company's don't sell it because it would put them out of business.

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Aren't you guys getting overwhelmed with TB and other third world diseases at the moment?

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

I mean, we have the medicine and we have the sick people. Capitalism just can't get the medicine to the sick people.
Capitalism gets the medicine to plenty of sick people, more than any other form of government. If you believe otherwise then leave the capitalist countries and see for yourself.

Sebastian Harris
Sebastian Harris

Perfectly said.

/thread

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

I don't know. Its almost like (((Someone))) heavily involved in the industry is inherently selfish or something.

Juan Powell
Juan Powell

IM14ANDTHISISDEEP!!!!!!!!

Caleb Watson
Caleb Watson

get put on a wait list for months
Nope. I had a serious pneumoni a few years ago and got very good treatment on day 1 in the hospital and stayed there for 2 weeks for FREE.

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

Yeah, Islam

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

you're talking about dominos i'm talking about healthcare. stick to the point.

people are more important than money. money as a concept was created to help people not the other way around.

name a single important drug that was created because of profit motive

Jason Bell
Jason Bell

Depends on which country you're talking about.

Jaxon Carter
Jaxon Carter

That's true you moron.

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

Ibuprofen.

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

go back to your liberal arts college

Benjamin Parker
Benjamin Parker

You're a fucking idiot. Pharma companies and public research institutions are constantly trying to one up eachother on cancer drugs

Jackson Lopez
Jackson Lopez

why does anyone die of diseases that have a cure?
Typically they don't.

Luis Green
Luis Green

Nice meme.
US hospitals are god tier
Oh you mean the places where people have to pay obscene amounts of money for a bag of saline solution? Where it's common to get false diagnoses of phimosis in infants just so their can be a profit made off cutting off part of the penis?

Jeremiah Martin
Jeremiah Martin

Nah, bro, every 15 year old that first learns of the profit motive is right: cancer cures are suppressed because existing treatments are more profitable. It's not like the first company to patent an actual cure to cancer would be able to virtually print money or anything.

Carter Baker
Carter Baker

a 15 year old's first post
Awww...

Kayden Bennett
Kayden Bennett

If If LeBron is the Chosen One, why doesn't everyone have a girlfriend?

I mean, we have even more girls than men and men want sex. Lebron just can't get the pussy to the penis people.

Lebron has failed us.

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

Look at the difference between Haiti and Cuba. Then try saying how great capitalism is.

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

Not an argument.

Hudson Martin
Hudson Martin

create concept of money to help people
act inefficiently and lose money
nobody can be helped
woooooow

Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

We don't have a capitalist system.

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

Yeah I'm sure cuba being 10% black and haiti being 95% black has nothing to do with it

Joseph Kelly
Joseph Kelly

le blame le niggers
Nice red herring.
Compare El Salvador with Cuba then.

Luis Foster
Luis Foster

I read a book so my opinion is true.
Two can play that game.

Brody Mitchell
Brody Mitchell

if communism and socialism is so efficient then why do people die of starvation?

Jaxson Edwards
Jaxson Edwards

Your post seems to negate the fact that every human action has a cost (monetary and not). So you first have to produce the medicine. What happens next is up to the producer: to either donate it or to rightfuly charge a price for it. Donations are noble, but do you think people will just produce for free all the time? Or that another system can negate this economic fact?

Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

socialism is not the antonym of capitalism.

fairly big government can bring cures to whom fairly big capitalism market failed to assign.
it is all about balance.
why do people want to go full socialism or full capitalism or full free market or full globalism?
ideological constructivism sucks whether it's communism or capitalism.
conservative opportunism is the most based ideology.

Chase Bennett
Chase Bennett

If Communism is so efficient why do people starve to death when there is food?

Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

we have 7.4 billion people user

you better earn your place in society

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

free

this board is over 18

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

Because medicine is actually a really inefficient way to deal with health issues. Excluding vaccines, triggered anti-vaxxers keep it to yourself, even if it does cause autism it's still an effective tool at preventing illness

Anyway, capitalism produces medical supplies, medicine, etc, but what you really need to make meaningful improvements in health are gains in the public sector, not private.

Why? Because, until you solve problems like sanitation, nutrition, education, population control, and control disease vectors, medicine is just shoveling water out of a boat with a hole in it. Fighting communicable diseases with clinical medication and treatments is a losing battle if you haven't drastically reduced the need for them in first place. If someone is bleeding out, you can keep putting bandages on them, but if you don't close up the wound first, you are doing it wrong.

Capitalism could and sometimes IS actually making improvements here, but that only occurs when there is a way for market forces to get a return on investment for improving health, without that coming from clinical medicine/healthcare. This occurs when some market force is able to invest in the development of a country/city/whatever and needs either health or productivity to go up to see a return on investment, in either case, improving the aforementioned categories becomes an option on where to direct development funds.

This usually doesn't happen for a number of political, but mostly logistical reasons. The most common route this comes in is when a very rich and powerful group invests in the currency of a country and can influence public policy to direct the funds toward projects which would raise health/productivity allowing the investor to see a return on investment. I believe this has actually been achieved in a few areas of the world, but off the top of my head I'm not sure. I know the topic has been written about before and I am loosely paraphrasing from various papers on the subject

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

Capitalism is working like it should. Sometimes it's more efficient to let people die than to help them. Anyways, we should in general not keep sick people alive because it destroys the gene pool. Just let darwinism take its course.

Joshua Powell
Joshua Powell

not be a pussy and join military. free or cheap healthcare at va.... cuck

Christopher Ward
Christopher Ward

why people have to die for gene or nature or future or whatever?
just fuck it.

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

third world diseases
Yes, a lot of muslim refugees

Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

which diseases with cures are you talking about?

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

you're so based senpai one of the first time i've actually seen someone on pol i agree with. thank you for this.

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

Nice ad homs

Nice argument. Have you read the book? Pharmaceutical companies try to squeeze as much money out of cancer patients as possible. You can't just say "W-well theres competition in the filed between better performing drugs" and make that any less true. Theres a profit motive to people being sick, and an entire industry which depends on sickness. There are inherent flaws in capitalism just like every other economic system.

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

Haven't heard of anyone starving to death in Norway recently... what about you?

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

You don't fucking get it. If someone came up with a legit straight up cure for cancer, which there isn't and never could be because "cancer" is a fucking lot of different diseases, they would become one of the most wealthy people to ever exist.

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

this cunt hair has definitely peaked

Jack Hernandez
Jack Hernandez

get cancer in USA
pay 300.000$ für treatment

Yes fur treatment isn't covered by any insurance companies. Not looking like a fox isn't a legitimate medical condition.

Julian Davis
Julian Davis

They would become one of the most wealth people to ever exist
He doesn;t include the profit structure to a theoretical cure to cancer

If he actually wanted to cure cancer, which in itself is virtually impossible, its not going to to be inexpensive and will be a restricted market for the elite in the beginning just like the cure for AIDS was. You don't just get rich from creating the cure, its how you implement it, that's how our current medical bureaucracy works.

Caleb Myers
Caleb Myers

As my grandmammy once said: "if it aint white, it aint right"

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

wtf i love socialism now

Carter Powell
Carter Powell

You seem like you know what you're talkng about. Answer me this, how do you get the rice to not fall apart in sushi?

Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

have superpower on doorstep for decades
other superpower prevents your total raping
great now i saved a bunch of money free tampons for everyone!

Eat shit faggot

Ryder Brooks
Ryder Brooks

Darwinism
Remove the laws and police so I can come and take your shit nigger

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

It's called Google: worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/

William Anderson
William Anderson

muh autism vaccines

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

rice itself is sticky.

Joseph Gutierrez
Joseph Gutierrez

After cooking they add a seasoning to the rice which is a mixture of salt, sugar and rice wine vinegar, the rice absorbs the vinegar leaving the dissolved sugar which sticks.

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

Makes my two neurons jiggle

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

Before you can have socialism, you have to exterminate all non-whites.

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

sumeshi is sticky enough.
if you fail to get it together, maybe your rice is dried up too much.

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

basically, let the sick die
this is your brain on capitalism

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

This is your brain on fascism and capitalism

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

The better alternative being....?

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

Different kind of rice, nip rice is a lot stickier in general(more gluten?)

Logan Thompson
Logan Thompson

Buy Californian rice pls

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

How did you get that from what I wrote?

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

Now compare them both with Lichtenstein.

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

EVERY COUNTRY CAN SHOULD BE A TAX DODGE HAVEN!!

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

Is it true there was no homelessness or unemployment in east germany?

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