Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Then, why do you support capitalism?

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They can just build their own home if they don't want to rent from the owner or buy their own.

I would instantly become a Marxist if it meant I could put my dick into pic related.

I want to support her worn out moose knuckle with my downtown hamjam slam I am ma'am.

Lust is a sin

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
Yes.
Welcome to life.

they can't do shit if they have no capital. face the facts this is not 10000 BC where you can just sit on land and build on it by chopping down trees

Of course I don't.

I pray to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to provide all of our material and spiritual needs.

Other people's choice of motivation and it's intensity isn't my problem OP

Hell will be worth it.

>Then, why do you support capitalism?

Name a better alternative.

The alternative is white genocide.

Watch, niggers. Listen to the only good Jew.

>Milton Friedman Speaks: Is Capitalism Humane?
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>Mexican sharpie eyebrows

She has to go back

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
You just told why.

How about i shove your bible up your arse?

I actually really respect this because you have good heart. I am a full socialist but some of the nicest people i know in my rural state are devout christians. I don't believe in your religion but i think it is harmless and i don't have anything against it.

Do you think it is ideal to have 70 million people who will work 24/7 to pay for home and food of those who don't want to work?

Lost

Do you think it's necessary for us to watch you on a daily basis?

Even going so far as to put devices inside your home? Or swapping your router out with an identical one? Or what?

Do you think it's ideal to post a hot chick and a socialist position?

Do you?

For your own good, stop before we have to bring you to heel.

In hell a screaming demon in the shape of Rosie 'O Donald rams a salt crusted needle made of frozen shit into your dickhole, always.

>Welcome to life.

The life we've made, sure. But I often wonder if our current socio-economic system is sub-optimal. It has to be because we can remember a better one when income inequality wasn't as bad. Begs the question of what an optimal socio-economic system would look like. Food for thought.

well considering they probably wouldn't work any other way, yeah it seems pretty ideal

yeah well maybe you should put your time to better use wondering often if you're retarded

You could say the same thing about nature pal

It was never 10,000 BC
It's worth the absolute worst torture beyond anything you can imagine? It's worth never having an eternal life in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Sodomy is a sin

I'll always take it with a smile on my face remembering the time I put my dick into pic related.

Jesus, this got out of hand.

I don't support capitalism..
I support feudalism

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

So do you just expect do just have food water and shelter as a given, without you doing anything?

Just take up oxygen and have your survival handed to you?

calm down bozo we're just discussing economics. i got bored of the 25 threads about trump, hillary and niggers. i want to talk about a different topic and i use hot girls because that always sparks a nice discussion believe it or not.

not everything is a conspiracy

It´s impossible to force income equality, when half of people are lazy, simple and greedy as fuck, and are always jealous of others who do more and take responsibilities and risks.

>threat
You don't work, you don't eat. That's not a threat, that's how the world is fucking supposed to work.
Socialism is cancer.

Why? Aren't these things worthy intellectual pursuits? What if we could model human behavior and interactions and build a simulation that allows us to test candidate socio-economic systems to determine a better way to live? This could be publicized and written about if we find a better way. Worthy, no?

I unironically support feudalism

You could live off the land, too.

you would make a great serf

>It was never 10,000 BC
Care to explain? Confused.

>It's worth the absolute worst torture beyond anything you can imagine? It's worth never having an eternal life in the Kingdom of Heaven?

Correct. I just really really want to put my dick in her. I don't even need to thrust in and out, just sort of wiggle the dick around inside her. That would be enough.

Are you fucking retarded or something?

> the life we've made

No you fucktard, this is the way things are and have always been.

If you were stranded on an Island you would need to work - or you would starve.. this is the natural order of life.. nothing we created artificially.

It's too hard for people to imagine a world without capitalism. It's like trying to describe living on land to a fish.

They honestly think if given the chance people would just sit on their asses all day long and never do anything productive rather than gravitate towards the things that interest them and become more productive than ever.

We'll get there, once AI and robotics disrupt the economy enough these retards will grow some imagination and come around.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes, it is a fair way to purge freeloaders.

you know if only I were to keep my inheritance.

The world is 6,000 years old, how could it possibly go back to 10,000 BC?
No it's enough, and stop posting your sick fantasies. Sexual activity should ONLY be between a HUSBAND and his WIFE!

poor bait leaf

Yes, because I like having things like plumbing, gasoline and food. And I doubt anyones going to want to unclog my shit filled toilet for the love of the job

>why do I have to get a job

>They honestly think if given the chance people would just sit on their asses all day long and never do anything productive
That's literally what I'm doing.
Thank you, socialism!

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes

No, I just hate good for nothing Commies since they killed half my family.
Don't like the fact more successful people than you can afford a property and don't want to rent from them? Then go build your own

you can't be serious

It's possible you either misunderstood my musing, or you lack the imagination to fully grasp it.

Nothing I said is incorrect or unbelievable it's just common sense

Capitalism works when there is not massive top down corruption.
Communism only benefits the top 0.01%

>leaf

>Implying poverty, starvation, and forced slavery isn't the hallmark of socialism/communism

trying too hard family

>The world is 6,000 years old
I've read like a dozen books filled to the brim with information that suggests otherwise. I suppose it's all lies.

>national symbol of your country and the name of your national anthem
Okay

Read the bible

actually, you wouldnt

>They honestly think if given the chance people would just sit on their asses all day long and never do anything productive
Many does that right now, youknow, and if productive people are punished for profits and doing what the like to do, only way there will be any production is forced labour, gulag-style.
Get to work, damnit.

...

The alternative is forcing people against their will with the threat of violence to pay for things they don't want to pay for, which is morally wrong.

I've read it cover to cover twice. The entire Bible could be true back to front, and the Earth could still be 4.6 billion years old. The Bible simply does not address science in any way shape or form. It's not that it's wrong, it just simply has nothing to say about scientific matters. Modern science emerged over one thousand years after the last book of the Bible was written, so it actually CAN'T address science. The age of the Earth is a scientific question, not a religious one. So Geologists would be the subject matter experts when determining the age of the Earth. I will be listening to them on the matter.

You can always sell your labor.

>people shouldnt have to work to live

in the future teeming masses of shit-covered skin-and-bones human garbage will still be wailing about how other people owe them things because reasons

and then one day they'll be dead

that will be a good day

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes, because you'd quickly find that about 3/4 of these people are just scamming the system and choosing to NOT work when they're more than capable.

Imagine the billions of dollars freed up by those lazy faggots actually doing work again and not being perpetual dole babies.

Stop being a dumbfuck and think with your brain and not your retarded liberal heart.

You must be a kid of one of those asshole rich chinks that are fucking up the Vancouver real estate market.

Fuck off back to china, Chang.

>Is it ideal that he who shall not work shall not eat

Unironically yes. Stop being a faggot and flip burgers while you search or scrounge for a better job. Only the most entitled pampered shits are bothered by working in this country where food is ungodly cheap.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Sorry, but I 'm actually having a hard time understanding your position.

Are you suggesting that people should be provided with homes and food by others, but could choose not to work?

No it can't be billions of years old because it's not
Religion and science are the same thing how can geologists know the age of the earth? Did they ask it oh this system (((they)) invented says it's billions of years old so that people will stop believing in God, turn to degeneracy and end up in Hell.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
Um yes.

I should also point out that people have to work in communist nations and those with mixed economies too.

humanity has worked under the threat of homelessness and starvation since day 1. they still will in your communist utopia - they'll just actually be homeless and starving.

kys faggot. free market capitalism is the best we have.

Technocratic National Syndicalism

>forced to work
Humans have been forced to work ever since they have walked this earth, if a person was too lazy to hunt fish or farm, what happened to that person? He would either starve or learn how to work to provide for himself, worse case scenario the fool would steal to survive and get whats comes to thiefs, all marxists are theives, why don't they work and provide for themselves when all the tools are in front of them?

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
yes

I'm Hungarian, and no we aren't rich. My family fought those good for nothing commies in the revolution unfortunately things didn't go so well so my grandmother and great grandmother had to live in a refugee camp for a couple of months before coming here to this great country and went to work in a factory. Unlike the ungrateful satanists from Arabia.

>Did they ask it oh this system (((they)) invented says it's billions of years old so that people will stop believing in God, turn to degeneracy and end up in Hell.

Yeah they did that.... or, you know, they just used Potassium-Argon dating methodology.

How communism is supposed to work is you have a very structured society with strong leadership for a few generations until people know the rules and their roles in society so inside and out that people just do what they need to do to keep society running smoothly, everybody has a job to do everyone is important, everyone contributes, the leadership eventually removes themselves and then what you have is anarchy, but nice anarchy where people don't fuck each other over. It could work if the whole world bought in and with the proper training and education.

We're closer to simply having a robot workforce than we are to global communism, so that's how we'll get our star trek future. I think we could realistically expect that with our lifetime.

Do you think everyone would succeed if everyone was a capitalist?

Totally. It's called survival and it's been happening since the dawn of man. Do you think it is ideal for millions of people who contribute nothing to society to profit from the labors of working people who do make contributions to society? If you say yes to that question, then you support thievery on a massive scale and you are immoral.

It's called doing your share. Ever aspect of society has an input, a labor that much be done. You do your work you get money and you exchange that for the product of others labor. You could always put your labor directly into what you need to survive by going into the middle of nowhere, making your own home with your own hands, and making your own food. You could go communist but the only times it's been used are the USSR and China, and I'd argue those have all the benefits of a capitalist society but with many individual freedoms stripped away.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes, no free rides.

Sad you actually believe this mumbo jumbo

>Sad you actually believe this mumbo jumbo

Didn't you just tell me to read the Bible in order to determine the age of the Earth?

I agree. That's why I'm a National Socialist...P

>Get to work, damnit.
Actually got a call from the employment agency yesterday.

>>Soo, what you planning?
>Oh I got applications going to X, Y and Z. Been to a few interviews, but no luck yet ;))
>>Oh really?
>Yup
>>Well that's too bad. Have you thought about getting another degree somewhere?
>Oh nah, I'm sure I'll land a job soon enough ;))
>>Good attitude! Ok, I'll schedule the next check-in for after.. say, is 6 months good?
>Yeah great ;)

The system is so broken it's not even funny.
I will shamelessly abuse this shit for as long as actually working isn't made so hard.
If the government de-regulates certain things, I will immediately start my own business.

>being this blue pilled

>everybody has a job to do everyone is important, everyone contributes, the leadership eventually removes themselves
holy fuck how naive can you be

People have to work if you want houses and food and any other kind of wealth to exist. But they aren't going to do it just because. So the question is, do you want everyone to work by incentive, or coercion?

Top tier slag.

Accepting the conclusions of subject matter experts makes me blue pilled, guys.

Would you rather have 500 million forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation; but have the satisfaction of trying to save them?

It's not ideal but aggressing against wealthy people to pay lazy poor people is even worse.

Even worse than a chink, some hungarian ayn randian jew rat.

Yes, exactly. Socialism.

Can't just build houses in America anymore.

That's retarded

(((Experts)))
Whatever
They won't ever find out America is huge

lol i'm a nazi haha lol

>WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE RICH AND POWERFUL!

>Whatever

I'm a Christian

>I'm a Christian

I'm a Jew because I don't want you to believe jewish scientist lies that turn Christians into atheists. Yup

how do you know, were you there?

No free rides, except helicopter rides.

One way only though, wanna take it commieshit?

You'd think if people wanted to make the world a better place they'd stop immigrating.

Every person ever is "forced" to work by threat of starvation. That's nature. That's survival, that's life.

Not exactly.

The vast majority of us have been living on Basic Income and we've just been hiding it from you.

Relax, it's just a prank bro.

That's how it's supposed to work, you just can't wrap your head around it because you're living in a world where that's inconceivable. In order for people to get to that point you need massive re-education and conditioning for several generations.

Don't be daft.

Cool. Look, even when people say they love their job, they'd pack it in if they won the lottery. You offer people a comfy life without work, they'll grab it, and it won't stop at 180 million, particularly when the ones remaining see that they're pulling a double shift to feed all the other lazy cunts. Everyone puts their tools down. Now what?

Thank you, countrymen!

Equality and labor for shelter and food is a reality of life.

If you want to know why everything is so fucking expensive it's because we have a massive federal leech on the economy whose sole purpose is keeping niggers and spics alive without them contributing jack shit.

Only because they're retreating the capitalist system. It's like how with three strike laws people facing a third strike will get in high speed police chases and shoot outs over a dime bag.

If everybody had a roof over their head and food enough to eat they're still going to have to do something with their lives. They're going to want to learn things, and pursue interests. Invent things, solve problems, and be clever.

We could have a system where everyone gets their basic needs met but you can still attain more than just your daily allotment of calories which most people would want to do.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
no i think they should be forced to work by threat of death by starvation.

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Key word: DISCRETIONARY

You fucking retard shitlibs do not understand federal spending whatsoever.

Not worthy until you've done the silly simulation and write about it

feel free to farm your own shit and build your own home.

alaskan land is free to live on.

i think we should be able to kill the retarded ones

So what exactly would you like your taxes to do?

You can access all those benefits too as long as you're a citizen.

Why don't you just sit on your ass all day and leech off the government?

You're a Jew because you're shitposting on Cred Forums about not being a Jew. You filthy rat.

Funnily enough, through my profession I've seen perhaps thousands of inventors. Almost all were motivated at least to some degree by money (or what it can buy), and the ones that aren't usually aren't wired up right. I really believe that without some incentive, progress would slow or reverse.

If you just said 'that's great, have a medal and our undying gratitude' the only people I'd see would be walking sticks that pick up dog turds and other insania.

But of course, I wouldn't see them, because I wouldn't both turning up for work.

nature would if they weren't fed. actual retards should be cared for though, they aren't going to reproduce.

Because capitalism isn't incompatible with basic income, and in-fact may yet be saved by the concept.

Well, their are inventions that actually solve a problem but their are also a shit ton on inventions that exist solely to create a problem and convince consumers they need them.

Elon Musk isn't inventing snuggies.

>Why don't you just sit on your ass all day and leech off the government?
I'm too fucking white for that and I don't want to live like a savage scheming criminal welfare fraud.

I'd rather just kick all the shitskins out or let them diabetes themselves to death.

Listen to any inner-city doctor, lawyer, firefighter, cop, or EMT and you will hear the most disgusting, triggering, repulsive stories of slovenly ignorant despicable niggers and illegal invaders taking advantage of our system and draining it of it's vitality.

If you want to know what the United States is, the United States is men on oil platforms in the middle of the ocean risking life and limb using the greatest technology the most brilliant petroleum engineers can devise, pulling million-year old organic material from beneath hundreds of feet of roiling ocean, loading it on literally titanic vessels, and shipping it to every corner of the earth, just to pay 30%+ of their income so King Nigger can send a negress hippo broodmare on a $40,000 ambulance trip to the hospital from her rent-controlled section 8 housing just so she can get her fucking diabetes medication without having to shell out for an Uber or take a bus.

Resources are scarce and Democratic market economies (I would lump Singaporeingap, Scandinavia, and everything between in this category) best serve their citizens from a quality and legenth of life stand point. This is the case without regard to population size, and with all other things equal.

By contrast, everywhere else sucks.

Isn't that also what communism is?

Nah, Elon Musk is just copying and pasting reality.

Not that impressive... yet.

Do you think its ideal to have successful people's money taken from them by force?

Then, why do you support socialism?

Read the next level based Jew Murray Rothbard.

You know, I was going to be really cheeky and sarcastic to point out that you've proven my point for me but you're probably too stupid for all that so I'll just say it directly.

You're not special in your desire to not want to simply be handed everything you're just like most people and most people want to make their own way in life.

You're also not smart and strong enough to be a fucking warlord who doesn't need government.


You stupid fucker, bless your heart.

You can stop being a lazy-ass bum and sell your labor.

News flash, people have always had to work to survive. You either work to provide the necessities of life (water, food, shelter, etc.) for yourself, or you provide a good or service of value to society that can be traded for these necessities. This is the way it's worked for as long as humans have existed.

It's only in recent times and thanks to all the excess wealth created by capitalism and free enterprise that lazy fucks like you can even fathom the possibility of sitting on your ass all day smoking weed while other people work to provide for you.

Literally none of that is a rebuttal to what I said.

I didn't say we don't need a state, I would like a white European-derived classically liberal state like the United States was originally intended to be.

I want this shit to be over. I am sick of IEDs in NYC and tens of thousands of black-on-white rapes every year. I am fucking sick of paying for all of this.

THEY
HAVE
TO
GO

racial hatred is a tool of capitalists to keep blacks and whites divided

>"Wow why do I have to work"
>"Well you don't, but we'll tkae that house someone else worked to build those roads someone else made, we'll stop delivering mail and taking your waste and letting you use our electric, sewage and internet."
>"Also, food, you'll be needing money for that so I guess you'll need to make your own."
>"W-WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FACISM"
Fuck off you lazy cunt, go live and die in the woods.

Racial hatred was created by God to demonstrate the superiority of the Anglo Israelites over the other races of the world.

>It's only in recent times and thanks to all the excess wealth created by serfdom and slavery

ftfy

>Anglo Israelites
what the fuck does that even mean is this some next level racist bullshit that i haven't heard of yet

Typical clueless marxist. Blacks and whites are divided because THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

Blacks are a violent, high time preference, low agency, r-selected race. They have an average IQ one standard deviation below whites in the US, and even lower in their native sub-saharan Africa due to white admixture in the US.

When exposed to welfare they degenerate to the most repulsive r-selected behaviors.

I only hate niggers because they're in my country and I have to pay for them. If they were all in Africa I'd consider them benign wildlife.

In the long run, it would've been a LOT fucking cheaper to have just picked our own damn cotton, but now that time is past and it's INFURIATING that I am forced to pay for the upkeep of this dangerous, decrepit, and outdated farm equipment.

If only that faggot actor hadn't shot Lincoln they'd ALL be back in Liberia which, mind you, has pretty much the exact same Constitution as the United States. Lot of fucking good THAT does, huh?

Race matters.

>Do you think its ideal to have successful people's money taken from them by force?
Yes, exactly. Sorta like taxes i guess.

How fucking sheltered a life do you live?

What do you think would happen if only white people were left?

Like, how do you think it is that you can go to the grocery store anytime of day any day of the year and buy a watermelon that doesn't cost $50?

race isn't real greeks have more in common with egyptians genetically than with germans

the boundaries of what constitutes the "white race" is totally made up and was invented around 1820.

post-scarcity resource based economy
green technocracy
democratic socialism

they're the exact same thing, user

Dammit, you're right.

it isn't though.

or you know, pure, unadulterated, 100%, USDA approved socialism.

no, what's retarded is only rich people buying homes and then having more empty houses than the number of homeless in our entire country.

it makes too much sense, user. they'll never go for it

except the wealthy were aggressive to get in to power in the first place and their descendants today stay aggressive to stay in power in the present

You literally can. Either by joining the Amish or going to the new frontiers in places like Alaska and Siberia.

It's too much work for a faggot like you I'm sure. You'd have to hunt to eat, make fire, not be a total wus, and worst of all, there is no way to get your estrogen suplements.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss

Oh no the market may have to adjust because Paco was sent back over the fucking wall.

Muh watamellun may be a bit more expensive while the economy recovers.

In the meantime, I won't have to subsidize the ONE TRILLION FUCKING DOLLARS A YEAR spent on keeping alive literally useless niggers and paying for spics to replace white Americans in their homeland.

Yeah no shit, Greece has served as a buffer between the Middle East and Europe for thousands of years. The "white race" was clarified in the United States in the 18th century specifically to differentiate itself from Orientals, Mestizos, Amerindians, and Blacks because before then we just considered the white race "people".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

I don't have fucking time for you "race don't real we're all the same skin color lol" science deniers.

>hurr durr public schools are violence incarnate

kill yourself

oh yeah, isn't that the idiot that said that the money supply doesn't matter?

The only way to go is with Anarcho-capitalism.

If no one works, we all starve, so yes. I think it is both highly motivational and ideal lacking strong AI.

>>hurr durr public schools are violence incarnate
Ever been to a black public school?

That'll give you a nice clue about how incarnated violence can be in public schools.

that's kind of the point.
you're probably one of those fagots who thinks everyone has the right to a _____ with a list of luxuries

>ever been to a black school

yes. i have. too bad that's non sequitur

White men were created in the image of God. Jesus was a white man, moses was a white man. God is a white man, and Satan is a black woman.

It is but I'm triggered to hell and back right now.

We need to remove shitskin.

Are you functionally stupid or just trolling?

Did you just suggest in all white society it would be impossible to afford food?

Public schools are violence. The shit they teach is an assault on truth and reason.

Actually I take that back, it's only half a non-sequitor because our public education system is so weighed down and poisoned with Semitism that for close to 70 years now we have been ruining the best public and private education system the world had ever produced in order to try and equalize the ever growing non-white population to races they will NEVER be the average intellectual equals of. Trying to close the "achievement gap" has created the worst, most expensive, most violent schools that exist in the industrialized world today.

Also this

No you don't understand. The market doesn't adjust.society just collapses because you remove an entire underclass of workers who are keeping everything running smoothly and cheaply.

Jesus christ.

well, we could let the state decide. but states make stupid decisions, and stifles individuality. I don't want to live like that
or we could try some sort of anarchy. some high-minded people might selflessly try to improve humanity. but i believe, sadly, that mostly, people would do the bare minimum and sit about of their ass for most of the day, like simple hunter gatherers. who live pretty contented lives to be fair. we'd have to reduce the population by several billion though.

Uh, yes?
>forced
If you don't like it, go live in the wilderness. No one is stopping you. You can't enjoy the fruits of other people's labor with contributing anything to society yourself, you lazy parasite.

Or you can just kys

Yes. His argument was that the market would adjust by changing the purchasing power.

without*

No one gives a fuck what you think? Marxist, socialist, dependent pussy.

This

No the market adjusts. Society doesn't collapse every time there's an agricultural labor shortage you fucking dolt.

Prices rise, demand normalizes, wages rise, automation increases, and the market regulates. There is some pain, perhaps, and some turmoil, but that's what happens when you withdraw from a drug like essentially non-citizen slave labor like we are using now.


We do not owe it to illegal invaders to keep our society running, and you shitheads who think that you need to sell your country out to illegals (~60% on welfare) and foreigners (~40% on welfare) so you can have "cheap watermelon" which is SUBSIDIZED AS FUCK ANYWAY are out of your fucking mind.

Stop taxing working, contributing white Americans to pay for their own replacements and criminal classes to reproduce, be educated, be "taught" English, and to go to "free" schools, live in "free" housing, get "free" healthcare, "free" food, and "free" retirement and I bet we could pay for a robot to pick watermelons.

You think you're some kind of economist, but you're missing the MASSIVE amount of fucking waste that goes into the government paying to keep this disgusting voter bloc alive whose sole purpose is to disenfranchise conservative and classically liberal minded whites.

I know that when you're working at a GameStop at a mall in a white neighborhood and getting your meals from the food court it's hard to understand, but there's a whole big complex supply chain that you're only seeing the end of.

Because it spurs civilization at the micro and macro levels. It motivates the citizen to work to elevate themselves, thusly adding and
Contributing to the society as a whole. The losers go to the bottom of the barrel. Just imagine if all these niggers didn't get EBT and shit.. If we were in a true unadulterated capitalist society they'd starve to death

If only if only

The moment you have anarchy, a corrupt ambitious person will seize power. That is human nature

capitalism is the foundation. Without it's there's no basis for a growing economy. It's how you regulate it that counts. ie funds going to the training programs to turn poor into contributing human resources. But this needs to pout way higher social responsibilities for current government/corp bodies for it to work.

That's not capitalism. That's just how life works.

With the amount of social programs for homeless people we have its almost impossible to go homeless. The peple that are homeless are addicts who know that if they get on the program that means rehab and sobriety.

If we want wasters to leave our domain we gotta give them an incentive to "return home".

The reason they are here is because their homes are garbage.

If we make recyclebots that turn their garbage homes into utopias than we can have peace at last.

stfu and gtfo.

If you don't have a social security number you don't get money from the government. Even if you have a temporary visa you do not get money from the government. Also all these non citizen workers still pay taxes and get nothing from it. Especially temporary workers who aren't just day laborers. You can be a software engineer and pay $40,000 a year in taxes and never get a cent in government benefits.

You're just not living in the real world, you're living in some white supremacist brochure world.

Maybe leave your basement and see the country that you think you're such an expert on dumb shit.

Anarcho-capitalism is the only way we can physically remove democrats and communists and restore the law of God.

Not if you smash and breed that shit out of people over the course of a few dozen generations. You dumb fucks are too short sighted and unimaginative. That's why you don't get it.

>post-scarcity
Kind of like "post-gravity?"

>What do you think would happen if only white people were left?
ha, okay, nice bait. Till about the 1950s, the UK was white, and guess what? We managed to feed ourselves.
Well, apart from that business with the irish, but i don't think a boatfull of niggers would have helped any with that, either.

>If you don't have a social security number you don't get money from the government.
They fake their number, or live in sanctuary cities, or have an anchor baby which opens up the gibs floodgates.

>Also all these non citizen workers still pay taxes and get nothing from it
BULLSHIT, they don't PAY anything if they're using a foreign worker tax ID then they are likely in such a low income bracket that they RECEIVE money back from the government via earned income tax credits, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE ANCHOR BABIS.

>You can be a software engineer and pay $40,000 a year in taxes and never get a cent in government benefits.
And it wouldn't fucking matter because you're suppressing the wages of native white citizens, displacing them with the literal indentured servitude that is H1-B and other worker visas, making anchor babies, AND fucking up the culture with diversity which creates a milieu of other social dysfunction (See: Bowling Alone).

>Muh basement
I'm living in the house I'm renting on a very substantial technology salary, thank you kindly fuckface. I live in the real world. I am FAR more aware of the realities of our corrupt welfare state than you are.

>having a physical body is a terrible burden and somebody should fix it

*teleports behind you*

Gladly.

I think the ideal is having an option. If you work, you are allowed to consume. If you don't work, you don't get to consume.

Ain't enough resources for everyone.

You don't need to threaten anyone. Just a simple trade. Resources for work.

I sure do!

We don't live in a post scarcity society, its true that when you go to the any store there's a lof stuff readily available there, but the entire chain of production and distribution, an extremely important but often disregarded part, of goods that makes this possible is supported by a complex structure that is balanced on the interests, that are based on real and perceived necessities, of the millions of individuals within it.

The market system that has arouse naturally from the relationship of all these factors has been historically demonstrated to be the most efficient way of maintaining the balance of this structure.

Why is it that fucking commies always assume that its ignorance that makes people not believe in their nosense? I understand exactly what communism is supposed to be, its a stupid fairy tale to anyone with an ounce of sense.

>massive re-education and conditioning for several generations
I'm sure that will work just fine, if the kind of humanity required for communism to prosper doesn't exist now, how can it set up the system that will create it without corrupting it in the process?

Because capitalism is shit until you look at the alternatives.

jewish national socialism

Interesting. What happened in the 1950's?

Oh that's right. All the brown people that you needed to fight your battles for you were given a free airline ticket anywhere in the empire.

That's just called Zionism.

Almost as much of a mistake as Hart-Cellar.

Fucking Lyin Ted Kennedy promised in 1965 that the Hart-Cellar act would not change in any way the racial demographics of the United States.

L O L
O O
L L

I'd fug her senseless, leave her a quivering mess on that bathroom floor

Yes, I do.

Hold up, if native american injins originated the whole, we are the earth, we are nature, we must remain pure and along with oriental asians being at peace with existence.

Than wtf did hitler do and why are jews and muslims following in his footsteps?

And wtf is white all about than if purity predated hitler?

Oh i know, scared white.

Now I'm not saying white people are to blame, but they sure did get lucky didn't they? and damn they gotta be some of the most generous people i know.

Sorry homie, you don't know what you're talking about. You're fighting windmills.

spics btfo

So you're saying people should just be able to live comfortably without actually working or doing anything productive?

Do you think those people would have survived 200 or even 100 years ago? The answer is no. Back in the old days you worked everyday to survive and you contributed to your tribe or whatever group of people you were with. If you didn't do your part to contribute to the group you were exiled and your lazy ass was left to die.

Things really haven't changed much. You work to live, except now you work to live comfortably or you don't work and live in shambles.

yeah, big mistake, we should have told them to fuck off.
but that's beside the point - white people are quite capable of feeding themselves, we will not starve if coloured folk were to decamp to africa (where incidentally, they cannot feed themselves).

I know this is bait but where do you think homes and food come from?

>Y-y-you don't k-know
Read "Adios America!" if you want to blackpill the shit out of your white ass. This election is -literally- a referendum on huwhite America. If Hilldawg gets in, white minority, balkanization, and RaHoWa, no questions asked.

White minoritization is a result of government policies. If government policies created white minoritization by prioritizing shitskin invaders, then whites can grab the wheel and reverse course. Just repeal Hart-Cellar, change the benefits system to promote the working- and middle-class birthrates (read:white), fix the fucking Anchor Baby problem, build the beaner wall, and completely repudiate Semitic political correctness (which is just a way to take away the language whites need to advocate for their own interests) and most importantly STAY THE COURSE and we'll be back to 85%+ white population in 50 years.

If you're just some fucking wall builder, then you might as well start working now because it's not going to get any kinder on you once it's state policy.

Also an incredibly small part of that supply chain is barely-literate indio goblins pulling tomatoes off of vines.

We can raise the wages of those workers or build robots to do it for the price of just housing their little spiclets and pretending to teach them English.

I'd vote for Hillary if she did everything Trump said he'd do in secret. Trump has good idea's he's just loud as fuck and unprofessional. Entertaining but not the least bit funny, not anymore.

That's asking for a lot of faith, though. holy fuck.

Pretty easy for the UK these days now that the sun's set on your empire and you're not speaking german thanks to mud bloods so yes you're correct Iceland does exist.

>you're not speaking german thanks to mud bloods
What the fuck kind of nonsense is this?

Nothing you say can be taken seriously hereon out.

So you would instead have those people force others to work so they don't starve? The food and houses have to come from somewhere

>huwhite America

laughed out loud

The state itself is so large in the UK it is a welfare system in itself. The people who work in government sector jobs are the biggest parasites of them all, their jobs are more self serving than actually providing usable services. Government sector workers are so large now it is essentially a deciding voting class that votes for itself.

I feel there is nothing left but to watch it fall in on itself. It will be very hard for the government sector workers to adjust to the real world when they realize their true value to others in their community.

I see universal income working in my favor, I get the concept. The only problem with it is when you give someone £3k a year and tell them fuck off till next year... it's just extra money in my pocket. But most people need the council tax discounts, free housing and a food allowance. They're gonna starve if you give them £3k-5k to live off.

What's even worse is they think they've got £10k pa universal income coming their way in a 'fair world'. You could give them 20k pa and they'd piss it up the wall in the first 3 months, even if they thought they were doing something productive with it. Every year like clockwork they'd piss it all right up the wall.

Sounds like the design of a reasonable god.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
Yes I do.

>Do you think it is ideal that people must obtain food, water, and shelter to continue existence.

Life is p2w bullshit, famalam.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
if that's what being white means, yes

Isn't that dumb twats solution that teenagers should be doing the jobs of illegal immigrants?

Like driving taxis, and delivery trucks and picking vegetables, making no mention of the fact that school aged teenagers would probably be in school when they'd be expected to be working.

Do you really think that the immigration policies in America are the way they are just to be nice and to fuck over white people? You don't think they're serving some greater purpose? Like ensuring that America stays an economic powerhouse?

you're trying to bait, but you're not making any sense. White countries can feed themselves. We can also maintain infrastructure, we invented the modern forms of it, after all. Honestly, if every ethnic type left my country, we would not starve, we would not live in huts and caves, we would manage to clothe ourselves, but thank you for your concern.

I don't think Ann Coulter covered that in her books but maybe crack a history book between the hardcover anarcho-capitalism erotica.

Are you really happy just mooching the system and not doing anything to further your career? Are you not bothered by the fact that you are being parasitic to your nation?

Your country is the size of a state these day, it's barely a country. I honestly don't know how you fuckers screwed up so badly.

That was a great labour weeze - to insert government further and further into our lives. Tax with one hand, and give benefits with the other.

Have a child? Great, the mother can get a low paid job, that doesn't cover the cost of childcare, so here's some benefits to cover that. Who knows, perhaps the mother can get a job in childcare. We're taking in each other's washing, and getting taxed at every point.

>Isn't that dumb twats solution that teenagers should be doing the jobs of illegal immigrants?
No, but it would help if teenagers had a economic incentive to work because they don't spent 100% of their time in school.

There is not a single teenager, outside of a handful of spergs and Asians, who cannot spend a few hours a day doing real work, which makes them more productive citizens anyway.

Regardless, we have an outrageously low labor participation rate for working-age men in this country. That needs to be fixed and it's sure as shit not by importing the third world to drive our taxi cabs and delivery trucks or work our construction sites.

>Do you really think that the immigration policies in America are the way they are just to be nice and to fuck over white people?
Yes, because the Democrat party realized it was not going to be an electorally viable left-wing party without importing third-worlders who reliably vote for larger government and more gibs. This is born out in the data on voting patterns so don't even try to fucking disagree with me.

>You don't think they're serving some greater purpose? Like ensuring that America stays an economic powerhouse?
They consume welfare, drive down wages, reduce social capital (creating expensive and litigious low-trust societies), burden the school systems, and VOTE FOR MORE.

Our country is, despite all this, still an economic powerhouse because of innovations of the past ~60 years, with a MASSIVE boost from the technological revolution of computing, and STILL we have flatlining wages and dying industry because big-government low-IQ high dependency high-time-preference voting blocs keep leftists in power to burden our state with debt and import more and more savages.

I literally said I wasn't anarcho-capitalist you nigger-tier shitposter. I believe in a WHITE, EUROPEAN DERIVED, CLASSICALLY LIBERAL REPUBLIC, but people like you make me feel more and more fashy every single day.

HELICOPTERS

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
Yes. No free lunch, faggot.

2 be fair i support harsher methods than passive ones like those

and certainly without gub'mint assistance and enabling of not working

and i certainly ain't no commie fucking shit either

There is so much stupid bullshit and contradictory non-sense in your replies to unpack.

You're either actually stupid or you're just regurgitating a bunch of shit you've heard elsewhere and don't actually understand what you're saying.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

You should listen to your burgerbro.

Even if the intention of the immigration act wasn't geared towards reducing the white demographic, it is.

Which means you have large foreign ethnic groups coming into your country. Those ethnic groups have interests, just like any other group. For example the AIPAC, La Raza, Black Panthers or Blm, down to the African student unions or Asian student unions. Non-ethnic groups like the dems, republicans and libertarians also have interests.

This is common sense. It seems like you dont appreciate the fact that white European blooded Americans have interests as well. Namely not being replaced by foreign people in your own country. It is really basic and natural and good to stick with your ethnic group.

Ask yourself why you dont align with your ethnic group. It might come as a surprise that these ideas you have been having stem from Judeo-Marxists from the Frankfurt School. (Another foreign people with a foreign ideology)

Fact check me, bro.

Essentially, we went all liberal and tolerant and decided we probably couldn't keep shooting the natives to keep them in line. Mighty white of us, you could say. And boy, they're so grateful to us it just warms your heart.

would you happen to be a person of colour or hispanic? You seem a bit defensive.

NOT AN ARGUMENT
I have dismantled every claim thrown my way by you. Nothing I have said is contradictory and all is backed up by well founded data and research.

Jesus christ you are even being outposted by A FUCKING LEAF I'm going to bed now, have to work in the morning and have stayed up too late spoonfeeding your ignorant ass.

>40,000 ambulance ride
Maybe if hospital bills weren't so ludicrous, niggers wouldn't be such a huge leech on society.

>Look's at socialist and or communist countries
>All starving, terrible political relations, peoples rights being taken away, poor, shitty military and shitty government

What did he mean by this?
>inb4 not true socialism

If it was economically viable to just close the borders every country would do that.

Walk around manhattan and tell me what you see?

What color people are doing what jobs?

Whites and certain Asians are killing it. While everyone else is basically a servant class.

It's not a race issue it's a class issue and if you think it's a race issue and you're white it's because you're fucking up.

Maybe if the government wasn't enforcing and paying for a ludicrous and burdensome bureaucracy and regulation MEANWHILE dumping no-moral-hazard funding into said sheboon's ambalamps ride we would have affordable private medicine.

The nigger is a leech and detriment to societies wherever he is not aggressively oppressed. Literally the only times in history stable black nuclear families have existed was under a heavy white thumb, and even that was a net detriment to the white societies holding them down.

LEAVE
THEM
ALONE

SEND
THEM
HOME

You are just a race traitor. You support other people over your own.

If you were in one of these chimpouts, you would be a target because of who you are, dont turn your back on family, family.

No I'm a white person who isn't a fuck up and don't need to blame my problems on brown people.

If you can't win when the deck is stacked in your favor you're the problem.

Yep. Why do you fucktards think that you're entitled to anything?

>If it was economically viable to just close the borders every country would do that.
Holy shit goverments are not profit-motivated businesses you stooge. They are debt-ridden political entities that use coercion and sell future generations into debt in order to maintain political power for the current stock of politicians.

I've travelled to white-solid parts of the United States. You go to rural Pennsylvania or Kansas. White people are janitors. Whites are flipping burgers. Whites are manning gas stations.

When you live in a cosmopolitan diversified place with a high population of foreign-born third worlders and their anchor babies, due to natural differences in IQ and the economic pressures of immigration, you get a society that is highly stratified by race.

Your view of the world is, without the slightest irony, so painfully fucking bigoted and racist that how you miss it is beyond me. Your society as you perceive it is one of racial castes, and it's SICKENING.

>If you can't win when the deck is stacked in your favor you're the problem.
Holy shit, you are missing the point entirely, and you certainly don't seem to be on the side of the "working class" who is currently deprived of labor, unable to increase wages, and cannot unionize due to a diverse, low-trust, and constantly in-motion foreign-born population which ALSO is a tremendous leech on government services and a detriment to public education. The deck is stacked AGAINST THEM.

Nah bud, it is an economic problem as well as a racial problem.

The banking system of usury is run by foreign banks, America doesnt issue its own currency, the "Fed" does.

People are different, cultures have different moral standards and expectations.

Trying to meld different people and cultures together is retarded, trust me, Im Canadian and would know. I dont even have to deal with black people on a regular occasion. Just asians and poo in loos, which tend to be intelligent people.

Who told you that closing the borders is not economically viable?

Each country should learn to be self sufficient and stop getting international bankers to lend their own currency to them.

We then could help our neighbours with the excess products we create. Bartering, trading, etc.

The idea that globalism is the only way is a lie, so is diversity being a strength.

well, there are lazy whites who have only themselves to blame. I don't know how it is in the US, but frankly, cheap labour from immigration is papering over the cracks of the UK's unemployable youth, black and white. And why won't they pick crops, or work in care homes? Because they can get by on unemployment benefits.

>threat of homelessness and starvation
WELL MAYBE IF THEY BECAME FUCKING FARMERS AND LEARNED TO BUILD 4 WALLS AND A ROOF THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH

What the fuck even is this shit, where are all these girls going where they're dressed like hookers

I saw a bunch once and they were just walking around on some dangerous road heading towards a gas station, but they were normal fucking girls, maybe even fucking underage, what the fuck is wrong with society

That racial caste system is because of globalization, and I agree it is sickening which is why despite understanding that I benefit from it and the rural burger flipper would benefit from it by becoming managers and upper class by the time the virus of globalization reached their home towns, despite that I still would rather have full blown socialism.

You don't even know what you want or what you're fighting against or for.

It seems like a racial caste system but it's actually an economic caste system which is why a lot of whites do end up in the lower rungs of society.

In your world there would be only whites and they would be guaranteed to be in the lower classes.

That's why I'd be all for regular old socialism until we can implement something like the venus project.

You on the other hand I don't know what your deal is. Try to keep up I guess.

globalization is a fucking government program and the politicians are literally electing a new people through immigration and trade policies.

This is not a mystery, this is not some "invisible hand" driving third worlders into our country.

I don't want a white world. I want a white COUNTRY, as it was INTENDED TO BE, because WHITE COUNTRIES ARE BETTER.

I'm not even totally against some socialism. I believe markets are more efficient, but whites in all societies are basically some degree of National Socialist if you look at how they poll on policy and opinions.

You are ignorant of the BURDEN that third worlders put on the socialist system you want.

I explained to you that importing third worlders is totally destroying the social safety net right off the bat but you are too up your own ass for that to register.

I told you over and over again that diverse societies are objectively more miserable societies that necessitate higher government involvement, I told you to look up Bowling Alone if you question this.

YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR SOCIALISM WHILE IMPORTING ETHNICALLY TRIBAL LOW IQ THIRD WORLDERS WHO ARE NET BURDENS ON THE SYSTEM.

IT CRASHES.

ALWAYS.

Look at where these people come from: there is not a SINGLE non-socialists country in South America. The only exception was Chile and that was after a fascist overthrow funded by the CIA and economic policy crafted by hardcore Chicago-school economists, and it didn't last more than a generation and a half despite the massive wealth that Chile was able to generate under these structures they went back to leftism.

Cultures and governments are created by the people who inhabit them. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Europe is Europe because of Europeans. Africa is Africa because of Africans. Japan is Japan because of the Japanese.

Get
This
Through
Your
Skull

I'm a fucking leaf.

You are a coal burning race traitor.

Sorry, I might have been too harsh. You probably have a mild case of yellow fever.

You pin everything on money. Socio-economic gibberish like a true marxist.

Racial "castes" exist because of biology not fiat currency.

You seem to think that the only reason open door immigration policies exist is so that political parties can retain power for power sake. I'm saying they do it to essentially create a slave class of people.

You can't grok that because you think that non-citizens are sucking up all that social safety net money and they're just not. That's the crucial difference between or trains of thought.

My attitude, as shitty as it may be, is accept the slave class of people because it's beneficial to whites and then fight for as many socialist policies as possible until technology catches up and can replace the slave class and then everybody gets to live in the star trek future.

I'm just being a realist. You want to get people out and repopulate with whites which will only slow the whole transition to technocratic resource based economy down.

>ideal

shut up faggot

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_and_Wonderful_Whites_of_West_Virginia

Why do they deserve houses? For being born?

Do you think it is ideal to have billions of non human mammals forced to hunt and labour by threat of becoming prey and starvation?

this is how retarded you sound

I'll reiterate what another user said

Nobody values your opinion, you dependent pussy

bring back property rights and open federal BLM to homsteading. If someone wants to live like a nigger in the middle of nowhere they should be able to do so.

That's basically my dream.

>non-citizens are sucking up all that social safety net money and they're just not.
I didn't say just non citizens, I said non-whites, third worlders and their children, and I'm completely correct in that.

Diversity is NOT beneficial to whites and has not been for many years. If you were right then whites would not be the only group with declining life expectancies due to suicide, drug addiction, alcoholism, and other preventable illnesses. Look up Charles Murray's research, the book Coming Apart is a must read.

You won't fucking get your technocratic society while we're literally spending a third of our GDP on sustaining the replacements for high IQ whites.

You get Brazil

Or worse.

You get South Africa.

You deserve to be thrown into the ocean if you don't "grok" (Reddit tell) that you jackass.

it's very easy to tell from your formating that you are from reddit. pro-tip: you don't have to double space newfag. Although it does help people when you scream so loudly that you are a normie.

>The director and producer
IT'S LIKE FUCKING CLOCKWORK

Is grok really a Reddit tell? It's from Heinlein.

Walls of text are hard to read faggot. I've been on Cred Forums since mid 2007

Go to hell nigger

you're legit autistic. people have been writing like that since the start of the internet, it's the standard for all forums. why? double line breaks are clean. it would look like shit with no space in between.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes. Here's a children's story you might want to check out if you don't understand this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Red_Hen

that is comfiest thing i have ever watched

Well, I'm not going to talk in circles about this shit. You're to fixated on race and can't see the forrest for the trees.


And try to enjoy the fact that you essentially have a servant class working for you put in place by people you're rallying against specifically so you wouldn't have to do shit work and could enjoy economic freedom and leisure time to read books and expand your mind, Which you're wasting otherwise you'd know "grok" is from stranger in a strange land, you dumb shit.

Seriously pick up a book that isn't written by some race baiting fuck nugget some time.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Yes, because if we don't build homes or farm, we all end up homeless and starve.

Actually, that makes perfect sense.

Yeah no shit dum dum, does it make me cooler if I spend all my time on this site instead of that one? Do I get extra street red if I bring up the SA forums?

Fuck off you big gay homosex.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

What's the alternative? Communism requires everyone to be productive members of society too doesn't it?

You are obviously retarded.

If nobody works, nobody eats. Everybody has to work if they want to eat. Capitalism is a system which is supposed to build on that, by providing incentive to further the produce made by work, so you can do less in order to have the same.

Fuckwits like you wouldn't understand that of course. Do us all a favour and kill yourself.

No, they have a servant class in place for their convenience, and they want us to join it or die.

Im fucking plying

youtu.be/nCKkHqlx9dE

I really enjoyed that too.

>Do you think it is ideal to have 180 million people forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
>
>Then, why do you support capitalism?


In 'nature' they would be forced to work (hunt and gather or barter) for food and other goods and services.

The only way this wouldn't happen is if the most powerful groups of people used force to acquire and defend the systems of control of goods and services, and then share them benevolently.

However, these goods and services would still need to be created by the work of some number of the population - what should they get? Extra pay? Equal universal basic income?

What should the most powerful group get? They control all the assets now, who is making sure they do or don't take advantage of their asset control?

The system you want to see is capitalism, this system is the manifestation of your ideal.

Taken further you want nobody to work, you want the robots to do it all. Who makes the robots? Who maintains the robots?

Didn't you say you work in tech and own a house and make good money?

You've got plenty of people beneath you.

Shut the fuck up.

I don't know what you're talking about. I did that shit work. I flipped burgers and worked construction on my way to better employment. I want that path to be available to other white youths and those who are not made for higher income brackets.

You are arguing for white genocide. For whites to be replaced and outbred in their own countries by tribes who are less intelligent and despise them, and to be forced to pay for it through Socialism.

And this is beneficial because you get to watch foreigners make your burgers instead of people who natively speak your language?

I literally do not even know what to say to that.

"Servant" class? Give me a fucking break. They teach you how to hate whitey in school you dirty kike.

These foreigners will be your family's replacements. They're too stupid for anything but slave labour and you're here using your high iq for mental gymnastics, convincing yourself everything's just fine when it is not.

Fuck you, you waste of a brain.

>A fucking lea-

He actually makes a good point

You poor fags are really bumming me out at how scared you are that you're going to get replaced by illiterate foreigners.

At a certain point that shit's on you.

Confirmed kike with this one.

It's only a sin if your god is Dante...

It's not a sin to lust for women, it's a sin to lust for your neighbours wife/familiar taken women.

>IT'S ON YOU THAT THE GLOBALISTS INSTALLED WORKERS WHO SUPPRESS YOUR WAGES

Remind me again how it's upto the literal dumbest and least influential people in society to increase immigration?

Demography is destiny for a nation. If you bring in ethnic blocks in a universal suffrage democracy who vote in their tribal interest to import more of their own and get themselves more power and resources then the native divided people will be replaced and disenfranchised.

Fact.

>180 million
lmao

Because I like getting laid.

If you'd just be better you wouldn't need to turn the whole country into a white safe space pussy.

The only real life people I've ever met that were worried about foreigners taking their jobs were lazy dumb shits who just wanted to coast and do jobs that give you repetitive motion injuries and bad backs.

You want to turn economics and politics into a racial team sport then start pulling your fucking weight and stop letting your team down, we don't need cheerleaders we need fucking 300lb line backers.

Stop being a waste of space.

You dont understand demographics and math. Piss off, Shekelberg.

Ps.
It IS on us. It is on us to take our western countries back. We're here trying to persuade marxist cucks like you, who should automatically be on our side because of ethnic lines and identity like every other group out there and yet you sit there and enjoy watching your females get taken by foreigners.

Honestly, this would be easier if you were a half retarded pavement ape. You're too smart for your own damn good, smug as all hell.

Sometimes you just need to take things at face value and not try to infer some bullshit socio-economic reason for it.

I make 70k a year at 25, and I'm fucking furious that my income is being disproportionately siphoned off, the resources I'd like to put into a nice home to raise children in, so third world savages who hate me can live in my country and eat and mate like stray dogs can replace me and my people's future.

Your strawman is intellectually bereft and fundamentally inaccurate

Don't get too upset with him. He's simply the victim of capitalist propaganda designed to pit him against the other workers based on trivial differences, in order to distract him from the real reason why products costs so much and jobs pay so little.

Homelessness and starvation are the natural state of any noneconomic agent. You literally have to do something to live. If everyone did nothing, then humanity would be extinct within a month

You're entire worldview is jejune.

You don't realize how much better you have it now than the alternative you propose which is exactly why things are the way they are.

Your image is completely meaningless. We're you trying to use it to imply something?

She's not even that hot. Whoever renamed this is a loser who's never slept with a woman.

2/10 would bang after whisky

I don't support capitalism. I support ethnic and racial based societies where people feel inclined to work to help their family/people/community.

Because it's better than slaughtering 80 million people for having different beliefs.

do you think its ideal for an elite few to control a nation through violence, intimidation, and force, while the masses have no access to basic necessities like toilet paper? then why do you support communism?

How do we provide them the goods and services they demand otherwise?

Because you're not entitled to a home and provisions. You have to earn it.

Either you work to earn something, or you starve and die. Soviets learned that first hand, when millions of them died of famines. They learned, at great cost, that they should've backed capitalism instead of communism.

...

>rants about oligarchy
>calls it communism

Yes it's ideal

I don't even fully support capitalism and I'll tell you right now it's ideal to having the whole pop on welfare.

how the fuck is this a thread, I support capitalism without kikes and niggers because I don't want 1 billion in starvation, like communism offers.

There's no other incentive that would compel people to work towards a society

>Capitalism and Marxism are the only choices
laughingaristocratsofthesoul.jpg

>forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?
Nature is cruel.
If you want to survive, you have to make an effort.

No one else is going to put work in just to keep you comfortable, without something in return.

Lest in Capitalism the trash die, but under Communism people don't really die but instead the trash continue to be leeches for 80+ years.

Humanity isn't worth helping. Think about it, over the course of 5,000 years of humanity they're still murdering, raping, stealing, lying, cheat, etc. and the only thing that has changed is technology, but they're still the same disgusting creatures. That's why I'll support Capitalism, because humanity will die out faster while Communism it will take longer for humanity to die out.

Hopefully before aliens(provided there are any) find any traces of humanity, because no being must know that humanity has existed so they don't get infected by humanity's evil and curse. Humanity must be forgotten so that it can truly die out.

Why dont they just... You know, buy more money?

You're assuming aliens are better than us.

Evolution produced us to be the lying, cheating monsters we are. What makes you think they're gonna be any different? Why is there this pervasive belief that intelligence=goodness? It doesn't. It just means you're better at whatever you choose to do.

>forced to work by threat of homelessness and starvation?

Considering that communist and socialist have a long history of just letting them die; it's not that bad a deal.

How in the holiest of fucks can 39 million people commit more violent crime (by a thousand) than 160 million?

Pretty sure that's why a lot of people move to Alaska.