Feminism or black people?

Which will be remembered as what ruined America worse?

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Jews, fucking kike.

Feminism

> literally "its equal jooooooes"
Lmao

cultural marxism

Black people made America stronger in the long run. Their slave labor led to the industrial revolution.

Feminism bombed the fertility rate in all western nations. Low birth rate = death to your nation.

The answer is unequivocally feminism.

True. America was at its best after black people had gained their freedom.

Feminism ruined everything.

Feminism

Because it's exclusively white women. Other races don't put up with such shit from their women. Only whites do. Feminism is the leading cause of the declining birth rate of white children.

If you arent being sarcastic, feminism is what destroyed black society too in the 70s.

You should have picked your own cotton.

>jk fucking jews

BLACKS literally weren't so bad after they earned their freedom

the federal reserve (ran by kikes for kikes)

and feminism are what's causing our women to get BLACKED and our finances to essentially get BLACKED as well.

Liberalism won.

White men brought a lot of those things on themselves.

Who brought black people to America? Who allowed Jews to immigrate to America? Who gave women voting rights? Who tolerated feminism in hopes of getting laid?

And if you look at the posts, you will find most modern white men are individualists. They are always willing to give other peoples a chance. This isn't a bad thing, it led to great societies. But it also led to us being taken advantage of.

>America was at its best after black people had gained their freedom.

Fuck off. My family had their farm implements stolen from them. I want fucking REPARATIONS.

Blacks weren't bad because they were kept separate from whites. There were no repercussions. Once integration kicked in, you all of a sudden had to deal with them and their problems.

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Neither, because it will be ruined.

Yes, the Jews brought over all the slaves and every single slave owner in America was Jewish.

That still begs the question, why did the Americans trade for these slaves? Not every Southerner was a Jew.

It's a honeypot method, if it exists then why not?

Blacks just seem to take the trashy white women. Wouldn't this just keep the poor in the ghetto and build a stronger, classier, richer white race?

About your image. I'm not sure what her name is but if you research her IMDB you will see she has been in many movies with her role being the love interest of a black man.

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No I wasn't being sarcastic and yes feminism burned the black community to ashes.

Feminism destroys everything it touches. It may be the greatest atomic bomb ever created.

The lefties

lolno, even after the civil rights bills and in the early 1900s in the north blacks were nigging.


your statement is inherently wrong

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But you said in your earlier post that they weren't bad, and now you say they were nigging. Which is it?

You faggots watch way too much porn. It's not representative of reality. White females are actually the group that MOST wants to date within their own race

Google males are considered least attractive while white males the most attractive

The liberal media for promoting nigger, sjw, kike, cuck behavior.

Was it feminism or was it the welfare state? Or were they bound to fail anyway because of IQ limitations?

Black people only destroy their own communities, when they chimp out. Not all of them are so bad.

Same can be said about Feminists. Haha, just playing. Feminists ruin fucking everything. Even if not all of them are human garbage, the few extremists more than make up for it by constantly oppressing others and seeping nuclear fallout. Entire countries are falling to their knees because of Feminism's """equality""".

Evolution is only good if it's naturally occurring. Forcing """evolution""" by pressuring people to breed with other races through a mass exodus which involves murder and rape isn't something anyone with a set of morals appreciates.

hello newfag. kindly kill yourself. thanks

>Black people made America stronger in the long run.
How?

How did the feminists come to power though?

Feminists were not in power, and then suddenly they were. Who gave them the ability to do this?

You'll note that men of other races do not give their women the rights that white men and white societies provide. You don't see African or Arab women doing as well in the rights department as white women.

Most couldnt afford slaves except for the ((((greedy elite)))

>Blacks just seem to take the trashy white women

This is just a meme that cucks tell themselves to soothe their ego. If it were true then interracial dating would be a positive since it would essentially be eugenics.

The reality is that ghetto trash black men have access to trashy white women when available. And successful intelligent black men have access to elite white women. There aren't many of them, but wherever they are they're a threat to take your women.

Combine that with the constant emasculation of white men and it's a toxic formula.

This.

Once you have women's suffrage, the welfare state is inevitable.

>America was at its best after black people had gained their freedom.
How?

卐 DESTROY BOTH 卐

Feminism.
Had Third Wave never happened The Black Lives movement wouldn't have started up either since they're pretty much the same group, save for BLM appeals to Black Knights and Fem appeals to White Knights.

It's like you all have your own inferiority complexes so you want to blame all your failures with women on white women and blacks.

They want white men. So do asian women and hispanic women. They just don't want pussy faggots who are feminine as fuck.

If you're a white male you have no excuse. Your threshold for attractiveness is higher than any other race.

If you can't reel in a white woman and mold her to see things how you do (women emulate the opinions and actions of attractive males they're around. It's a way for them to fit in, since fitting in to the tribe is the most important thing for a woman. If you're not the role model for them then they have none and just follow whatever the media tells them).

You're literally playing with a handicap because you were born white and you're bitching because a small minority of women choose flat nosed big lipped googles.

You watch an obscene amount of porn, and that, coupled with lack of actual contact with women, makes you think that they're flocking to non whites.

If you think a woman is acting out of line that's your fault. Women mature faster, but they stop maturing emotionally at around 14 or 15.

If you can't manipulate and mold them then that's your fault and your father's fault. This is something every man used to know.

>BLACKS literally weren't so bad after they earned their freedom
What about the racial crime statistics and the blm riots?

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Niggers wouldnt be an issue if we had a strong manly population that didnt take shit from people, and had a high moral compas. So feminism and the breakdown of the family is way worse. Niggers are only allowed to get out of control because our country is so weak and frail.
Feminism is only 1 effort by the marxist elites to break down our society, and push for more reliance on the government.
Feminism, homo-agenda, family breakdown, atheism, racial tensions.. these are all part of the marxist agena, which results in communism.
This is all heavily pushed by Jews.

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Feminism. Women gaining the majority of political power and losing their femininity is a recipe for societal disaster.

Why is atheism a problem? I'm an atheist and let's face it - Christianity isn't coming back to North America. That ship has sailed.

Feminism. Were it not for that, the slippery slope of handing out rights would've never happened.

People keep saying this, but what is it about Western countries that enabled feminism and allowed it to become popular?

Feminism obviously isn't a worldly affair. I wouldn't consider Central Africa or the Arab states to be feminist.

>Why is atheism a problem?
American Atheists = liberals
Liberals are pro: nigger, sjw, cuck culture

It'd be feminism. Without their namby pamby influence we'd probably straight out the negroes.

But how do you solve the problem of atheism tending towards liberalism as you say?

feminism for sure. You have to understand that feminism has always been the vessel used by cultural marxism. It is feminism that spawned the poisonous seed of "social justice". Their thought patterns are engineered to ceaselessly find something that they feel they have a moral obligation to destroy.
hate norms > hate men > hate self (own culture). Thats why it is the feminists that are converting to islam and handing the west over.

>What about the racial crime statistics and the blm riots?

That was after feminism. There was a period time where blacks were free and there was no feminism.

The black community, and America in general, was at its absolute best during this time.

Who gives anyone power?

People don't want to be hated, so they do things to look better. That's why people sometimes join religions but don't actually practice said religion. Simply saying you're religious automatically puts you above a certain percent of the country morally, just by saying it. It's all an illusion but it works.

Feminists do the same thing. They claim moral high ground by saying they're for equality and people naturally want to believe they're good people, so they let them do what they want. They gain momentum and support for being popular. They start doing questionable shit but because they're so popular and considered so widely to be a positive movement, people worry about being bad for questioning it. They invest in this by oppressing those that ask questions and labeling others as bigots, racists, sexists, rapists, etc... And doing so ruins people. It's defamation, which is illegal, but who is going to arrest an entire group of people for bullying someone?

So the Feminists gained popularity and an illusionary moral high ground, like any other religion in the past, and now they're oppressing the people that question them. It really is that simple.

Give the devil an inch and he'll take a mile.

I am an atheist as well, but you have to recognize that religious communities are much tighter.
Sure the religious teaching are literally stupid stories, but there'es a reason why they were so important to the men in the past.
These teaching were a compilation of thousands of years of reflection passed down, because these men knew what would destroy their community.
There's a reason all religions emphasize that women shoulnt sleep around, theres a reason why gays are shunned, etc.

I am honestly starting to think that our society allowing women to vote, and play a masculine equal role in society is the metaphor for taking the apple from eve.

hands down, niggers.
feminist don't suck our economy with welfare and crime. just bitching.

Yes, but blacks back then still faced a lot of discrimination. You can't say they were in the same societal position in 1910 as they were in 2010.

My point was that whites want to see the best in everyone, that is why we were more susceptible to feminism.

The answer is Black Women destroyed America

So you're saying it's possible to "act black"?

Race is synonymous with culture?

White liberals

I think race does have a correlation with culture. Oddly enough, I think I'd get more agreement from blacks on this one than whites.

I think Pat Buchanan said it best when he said "It is a lot easier to assimilate a thousand Englishmen to America than a thousand Zulu."

Europeans may have different cultures, but they are a lot more in common than any individual European culture is with another race. Same with the African tribes.

Interesting.

The black culture turned to SHIT in the 1980s... right when rap music started to come alive. It's fucking retarded. American black culture is doomed because of whatever happened in the 80s... It was doing perfectly fine before then, the nigger culture didn't exist, and now all of a sudden it does.

If blacks weren't niggers that indulged in a shitty victim claiming culture, America would be so much better.

A FUCKING LEAF!

It does have a correlation, there's no arguing that. Sure a culture can suck in people of ANY race, but it's when a culture is dominant within a specific race, then yes, it's a correlation in a way.

Industrial revolution started in England.

We had higher crime rates from blacks in the 1970s than we do now.

Also, people of all races listen to rap music, it hasn't destroyed the white community.

This.

Niggers by a mile.

The thing is, Africa and Haiti don't have "rap culture" or "victim culture" like you said, but they are probably worse off than blacks in America are.

By making it normal. Ironically what Cred Forums is wanting will make atheists more liberal, treating them normally would work. Look at gays, until a few years ago when it became normalized no gay would ever be right wing, but now it's different.

Honestly I believe in gay rights, other than that they can all burn in hell.

Men and women should be TREATED as equals. We are not equals.

>it hasn't destroyed the white community

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHA it did catastrophic, nigh irreversable damage on white culture

I disagree but you could be right. It could be in their genetics. However, I think we could use some information regarding interracial adoptions.

Kids that were taken from their birth parents and raised in different cultures might behave the same as the people they're raised with but might also feel out of place due to their appearances. It's hard to say, since hate is learned.

Personally, when I was a child and saw my first black person, I asked why he was so dirty. My mother explained that was just his skin. I said okay and that I was sorry to be rude. He said it was fine and we smiled at one another. I felt no fear and he didn't seem angry. I think white people give more of a benefit of a doubt because of the culture their raised in being less violent. I don't think it's entirely their genetics that cause them to be more compliant.

It was that same reasoning that slave owners used regarding black people that fooled so many into thinking blacks were content with their condition as slaves.

No, faggot.

>cheap labor to run your shit
>why'd you do it
>surely you're just as bad as the people who slaughtered their tribemen and brutally enslaved them, then sold them to jews for further exploitation
>because all slave owners were cruel
>none of them treated them well

It's not just rap music though. Blacks in America are CONVINCED that they're victims, and their culture supports that. It does have quiet a bit to do with race, but I had a friend who was half black and half mexican, and she looked completely white, yet she claims that people treat her differently because of her race, instead of blaming it on her appearance, how she acts, and what she does. It's an ideology that runs deep within the nigger culture. Sure white people listen to rap, but the mindset and culture of blacks within a certain area runs deeper.

Blacks have a culture of not caring about school, and accepting failure, idolizing the thug life, which in turns, makes them ignorant sheeple. That's where problems start to arise. If you're educated and you listen to rap, that's one thing, but if you're a fucking dumb ass and listen to rap, that's another.

Yeah seriously.

blacks duh

fpbp

This.

The black community was on the right track before feminism and welfare destroyed the black family

nigger kikes fatass feminists with blue hair numale cuck faggots and shitskin goat fuckers
>all of the above

You really think whites are doing as bad as blacks are because of a video of Russian girls twerking?

The problem with your theory is you assume that if every place in the world adopted western culture, then all countries would be equally successful since genetics has nothing to do with it. But how did these cultures arise in the first place? If there are no differences, then wouldn't we have ended up with the same culture anyway?

>on the right track
Prior to the 1960s they were segregated and faced heavy discrimination. They were not doing well, you just have a rose colored vision of how things were back then. Ask a black man if he'd like to go back to the 1950s, and you'll probably get a resounding "no".

I'm an atheist, but watching all this degenerate shit makes me value christian values a lot more. I don't even know if it's actually christian values, but American values, whatever the fuck it was, keeping those values is and was our best bet to keeping society in line. Now it's a cluster fuck, who in the FUCK allowed this nigger culture to thrive?

Lump them all together and just call it SJW's.

>HVdjHGrM
is it that bad?

honestly people on this board really do try to downplay black men fucking white girls.

On those occupid stats and stuff, black males in alot of them are only the 3rd least popular. Even when they are they aren't far behind other races.

In alot of them they still get pretty normal feedback.

i'd also like to see an age-range one

it's worse than what people want to realize.

That's because they're dumb
What will be remembered as what ruined america is a complete lack of a unified culture with a workable model for modern humans. Also general degeneracy. The higher likelihood that someone will take instant gratification over contemplation.

Poverty isn't the reason this culture came to be either. During the industrial revolution, MILLIONS of white Americans and other immigrants lived in far worse conditions than blacks did during segregation, yet they didn't resort to this shit cluster fuck of a culture.

>Support it all or fight it all
You some kinda autist?
I don't support letting you people breed.

Women.

Black men do ok when they are not around black women. It is their women, for the most part, that get them worked up. Plus they are only raised by women.

Also, feminist find cuck males. They keep them as a back up, insuring they will stay single by making them use words like, "mansplaining" or whatever the word of the week is. Then these guys stay on the hook for years until another comes along and steals the slut.

Women with two good parents, that are still married to each other is the only way to go. Also, it helps if her father is an alpha.

What? Nigger women are all "feminist"

>Their slave labor led to the industrial revolution.
No. European ingenuity led to the Industrial Revolution. Niggers led to the Africanization of American cities. Looking at you Detoilet, Chimpcago, Apelanta, New Poorleans.

"RAP music" is literally nigger trash propaganda. I dont know how any of you can even remotely begin to believe that it has any value what so ever.

the words that come out of their mouth and the lifestyle it promotes are literally the antithesis of good society.

blacks and their black culture is as destructive on major cities, in any nation, language or geography as a nuclear bomb. The victims are as numerous, the damage to infrastructure and order, the disruption of advancement, diversion of resources. you name it.

We must make them smart by eradicating their culture and forcing change in their shitty communities whether they like it or not, because the 14% aka 50 million isn't going anywhere. Sure we can slowly but surely wipe the black genome from our country by race mixing (sure we hate it now, but if we close our borders, there would only be HALF blacks and that would decrease the amount of skin color motivated ideologies that threaten America)... but the culture is what needs to go first.

>Muh reparations
Nigs gonna nig

>That still begs the question, why did the Americans trade for these slaves? Not every Southerner was a Jew.
Gave them an economic advantage, thus forcing everyone to adapt or go bankrupt

American Industrialism began because of WW2.
Positive we didn't have slaves at that time.
African Americans after they were freed eventually started to help Industrialism by moving north to fill the demand for factory workers in The Great Migration, but they were by no mean slaves at the time.

the industrial revolution was the direct result of the realization of how ineffective, terrible and incorrigible blacks were.

>If you want something done, you have to do it yourself.

or get a machine (who does EXACTLY and ONLY) what you tell it to do, for you. And thus the industrial revolution, in its current form "the information age" was born wooooooooooo

>pic related
"a black success story"

No. All niggers need to be exterminated both white and black. Especially you for obvious reasons. We have to go full eugenics with only the scientifically proven kindest, most ethical, intelligent white males being allowed to reproduce.

>It wasn't me it was the rap music and peppermint schnapps!

What in the fuck? American Industrialism started in the mid to late 19th century. Have you not heard of john Rockefeller, vanderbilt, etc? Just watch "The Men Who Built America". You're welcome.

The Industrial Revolution mainly started before Slavery was a big deal, but England truly didn't need African Slaves to work their factories because they already had The Irish and British common man that were so poor they saved money by trimming a few centimeters of silver off the edges of coins.

>started in the mid to late 19th century
>WWII: September 1, 1939 – September 2, 1945

out of your fucking mind.

literally look. literally look at every. single. african nation, from year immemorial, untill today. They have not shown a single, solitary IOTA of good faith, or human capability. This will never, repeat, NEVER change.

all that life has ever been for them or ever will be is collecting stones, wearing chains and beepoping inbetween

Black feminism.

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Jews ruined America

Delete your comment before anyone points out your stupidity.

good likeness!

No.

Feminists enable the nigs but history will remember the nogs.

>Blacks in Russia
wut?

Here's a hint: We're in the 21st century.

you got 4, troll. (saged)

Don't you mean googles?

Oh well.
You're still wrong even if not for the same reason.

Both are easily manipulated by (((them))).

>Which will be remembered as what ruined America worse?
whites

You're confusing becoming a global superpower with the industrialization of America. There's a difference. Look it up.

Did.
Not much difference.

Based Latino women avoiding the nog.

Are Latinas red pilled?

Boosie went to prison and got red-pilled.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FS8OYs8CF_I

Blacks got their freedom in 1865. America was only growing stronger until the '60s.

ali larter

Libs and Jews

We know that

Detroit is full of blacks. Portland is full of feminists. Take your pick. Feminists are just over-educated dumb people who will fail to breed.

>implying Latinos are any better

>until the 60s
Uhh I hate to break this to you but that's around the time blacks completed their migration northward.

>what is the first great migration

Blacks already had a reputation of being criminals in Chicago, by 1940.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Son

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Damn user hit the nail on the head

Niggers, Jews, and leafs.

>smacks lips
Are dogs niggers?

The black community was conservative and no-nonsense back then and black criminals were shunned as opposed to embraced and glorified.

Feminism.
Niggers gonna nig but they aren't subversient agents in themselves unlike feminists and muslims, they are just disruptives.

>black criminals were shunned as opposed to embraced and glorified.

I'd believe that. But again, let me give you a chart.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Detroit

In 1940, Detroit was 90% white. In 1970, it was 55.50% white. The second migration was far more significant and far more damaging.