In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
What would stop me from also buying all the bottled water companies and accompanying infrastructure and selling bottled water at $100 a bottle? Or just replacing the bottled water with raw sewage also?
I'll also sell filters, so that people can filter their tapped raw sewage into clean water. The filters will be good for about 50 liters of water, and cost $5,000 each, or maybe more, would have to analyze the market.
Any competition would be far too costly, or take far too long to set up, so I will let them try, I will have made plenty of money before there is any viable competition, however if they interfere with my business there will be consequences. I will protect the business corner that is rightfully mine with libertarian principles, only engaging those that seek to usurp or interfere with my business with force to obey the NAP.
So, what is an average person to do? They have no choice other than to spend all their money on these filters or bottled water, or drink raw sewage to survive. I could also get in the pharmaceuticals/medical industry and invest in, and raise the price of, relevant drugs in advance.
>le you aren't rich you can't do this!!
What stops a super rich kike from doing this? Rothschilds could do this with their pocket money.
>muh NAP
Doesn't violate the NAP, people are still making their own free choice to pay for and drink my raw sewage or not.
Well I am now well and truly convinced that "libertarianism" is kike shit.
Angel Clark
congratulations, babbys first "(((Libertarianism))) is a kike conspiracy to destroy balanced white societies where money and profit isn't the be all end all" realization
Gabriel Bell
>from buying all the water companies and infrastructure
Laws.
Samuel Bailey
(you)
William Long
If you cared about profits maybe you would not be poor and worthless neonazi. Stay irrelevant, poorfag
Wyatt James
I figured this out a long time ago
Rule by globalist corporations (neoliberalism) is a very leftist "multicultural" goal that libertarians happen to agree with.
That's why they also just happen to love open borders and outsourcing.
Don't get me wrong I like the old anti war and anti outsourcing libertarians (Pat Buchanan), but modern libertarians are shit.
but neoliberals want to (and in fact already did) change the laws
Hunter Reyes
I guess people just sell cheaper filters or get their own well.
Robert Ramirez
Libertarianism =/ anarchy.
I think most libs would be ok with the government running the waterworks.
Juan Sanchez
>you should care about profit over the good of your country
why hello my long nosed friend
Caleb Gomez
>what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
people will kill you if you do that, are you that retarded?
Ayden Myers
Never said that. You should care for profits, though. You nazis never do, which is why you've been a failure since 1941.
John Adams
>but neoliberals want to (and in fact already did) change the laws
Good. It will make your weak neet ass tougher. Survival of the fittest.
John James
Slovenia is a Slavic shithole go away
Adam Cooper
Samefag
Jose Clark
>I'll also sell filters, so that people can filter their tapped raw sewage into clean water. The filters will be good for about 50 liters of water, and cost $5,000 each, or maybe more, would have to analyze the market.
Revolution. Because no matter how many private guards and weapons you have to protect you and your assets, there's always gonna be more of them than you. And your guards have families too. Families who are also family to people who you sell $100 bottled water after replacing their running water with raw sewage.
Grayson Bell
Wow nice logical fallacy. That is about everything you nazi suits are capable off. How does it feel that we're subverting your movement? Milo will be king of alt right
Brandon Rivera
>here let me propose this situation that will never happen libertarians btfo hahaha
Jason Wright
Slavic subhuman says what?
Jaxson Walker
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Angel Collins
Ooh you really got me with this one. I will think about it while I subvert and destroy nazi shit movement
Adam Collins
>invest in all the water in a region somehow >instead of selling it to beat the competing water company im going to fuck everyone over including myself
ok
Aiden Hughes
According to libertarians nothing bad will ever happen in their utopia anyway
>If you make society more corrupt you win
ok Trudeau
>You should care for profit
You should care about living standards in your country. It just so happens that private ownership of the means of production is good for living standards. But having the government pay for certain public goods and public services is still important.
Telling your own people to fuck off and die when your economy is being fucked up by globalism is a sign of having a completely judaized mindset
Lincoln Green
You're not subverting shit you will live and die in your decaying commie block apartment while your women sell themselves as prostitutes (Melania trump top kek)
Hudson Ward
libs are agaist everything (((caused by biased politocs))) that allows big corps stay big and safe from competition
neoliberalism is actually used to refer bce or fed methodology, fom central to right wing politics, this still socialists way of life
freedom does not cause or encorage current statu quo
incentives are reversed
Adrian Ortiz
also
>selling bkttled water at $100 a bottle >someone easily trucks in bottled water and sells it for $20 a gallon >youre fucked
Zachary Hall
No borders, no natons, only Shinra, Inc.
Connor Thomas
> In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
Competition you cuck. If the joos buy all sources of water, I go and distill clean water out of it. I can build a water distillation plant. Because of the huge demand, I can fund research into alternative forms of water. No matter the price of the procedure, the demand for it will increase, I become rich and make the joos my bitch. Where there is a artificially induced shortage, the demand makes workarounds possible. This is the entire point of the free markets. In your socialist utopia however, we end up like Venezuela where the price controls caused inflation.
Which is why you can't learn from their mistakes. Classic stormcuck, never change (and die as a result.
Jose Martinez
> No idea how economy works > Wants to live on welfare cuz muh hwite race Worse than a nigger.
Wyatt Wilson
Fuck public goods and fuck socialism. We're competing and may the strongest survive
You know you are losing. There isn't a single nazi institution relevant today. Protip: Even Golden Dawn is going to be destroyed by alt-right by the next election. Alt-right will be your worst nightmare
Angel Torres
Clean water ≠ Disinfected water
Leo Bailey
the "right" is now the "left"
Stopping globalism and neoliberalism is only allowed from the right these days. People have been pointing this out for years, including many leftist academics.
There is no competition when you have a land monopoly which is the whole point of neoliberalism
The result is ridiculous cartels and price gouging.
Libertarians have no idea how anything outside their autistic conception of reality functions.
The economy relies on more than competition.
It relies on basic government services like law and order.
You'd know that if you lived in a shithole instead your magical white utopia.
>fuck le government XD
Please come to Detroit then
you will have so much fun no police :^)
Jayden Stewart
>Please come to Detroit then >you will have so much fun no police :^)
Detroit and Somalia are both African. How can you compare them to civilized world. There is Singapore and Hong Kong which are examples of libertarianism and you're not going to bring them up, are you?
Asher Martinez
People live in literal cages in Hong Kong.
That might be acceptable living standards for a Slav but not for a white society.
Adam Scott
>How can you compare them to civilized world
You do realize that black people were kept in better control under segregation right?
It still requires force to stop people from being criminals, you just need far more force and propaganda to stop Africans from lighting everything they see on fire.
no government=anarchy=chaos
It's just far easier to create anarchy in any black society because they are naturally dumb and violent.
William Phillips
> Economy depends on state No. Economy depends on the willingness to exchange desireable goods. Transactions still happen even during societal breakdowns. Certainly, security and stability help in terms of facilitating production and exchange, but nothing more. No sane libertartian would argue the abolishment of the state, at least I don't. What I want is minimal involvement because the alternatives result in shortages and monopolies you fear the joos will accumulate. While we are on the topic - its interesting how you are blind to the possibility of the jews subverting your nazi party like they did in Germany with your one balled autist and gain control easier that way. You know why I can live in a white utopia and you don't? Because the jewish shit they are peddling is no match for Swiss products and ideas in a free environment.
John Myers
Libertarians do admit that some governmental control is required. Antitrust laws are useful to the population, and now a days you wont see much people advocating for absolute versions of any kind of government theory. Anarco-libertarians would tell you that competition wouldn't allow you to hold the market like that for long. The obsene profits you mention would draw competition willing to come up with new methods/technology, and willing to fight for your market share at a much lower price than you propose
Samuel Edwards
What? So there are archaic conflicts over influence in a libertardian society?
Who could've guessed it?
James Parker
It would violate the NAP so no one would do it because that would be wrong :^) Also it would be expensive and no one would collude because people are incapable of banding together for their mutual self-interest without screwing each other over the first chance they get (but also we don't need a government because people will naturally self-organize in the most efficient way possible) :^)
Asher Gonzalez
Please never forget that my country is white. Thank you!
Logan Allen
>sane libertartian :*}
Brandon Moore
Where is your segregation now? How are you going to implement it when you're probably a weakling while niggers are tough and feral? You're dreaming boy, wake up.
I'm not opposed to government. I'm opposed to government intervention of trade.
Juan Sanchez
>No sane libertartian would argue the abolishment of the state
kek
what world do you live in? They talk about it non stop in fairly mainstream libertarian thought.
>Certainly, security and stability help in terms of facilitating production and exchange, but nothing more
So what you're saying is you do need public goods and services like law and order, courts, defense, infrastructure, etc? Why then are you a libertarian?
>jews controlled Nazis
that's rich
>You know why I can live in a white utopia and you don't?
Because you haven't been flooded with Arabs and Africans yet.
William Myers
>How are you going to implement it when you're probably a weakling while niggers are tough and feral?
A government would imply collective action not singular action
Collectively US whites could deport all blacks back to Africa in a few months if they felt like it.
>I'm opposed to government intervention of trade.
So plenty of outsourcing, mass immigration and no health or safety regulations
Wow great so when are you moving to China?
Chase Johnson
Are you fucking twelve or are you fucking iq70 that you can't write a single reply and have to divide it like a fucking autistic little shit?
Austin Fisher
actually autism correlates with higher IQ not lower IQ
you should know that being a libertarian and all
Nathaniel Price
>Libertarian free market allows the kikes to have complete control
That is the whole point of Libertarianism - unaccountable power.
Justin Murphy
I think you are thinking of anarchism. Libertarians do believe in some government, just not a lot. The classic example is "libertarians don't believe in borders!" Only that moron Gary Johnson thinks that which is why actual libertarians hate him.
That being said, alot of degenerate shit would be legal if the USA was libertarian. Imagine Amsterdam where you can smoke weed and fuck a hooker all while a cop watches.
Parker Miller
Actually, autism correlates with zero EQ. And zero EQ would be you dreaming of segregation while Jamal is fucking your mommy in your 60% white country.
Isaiah Butler
>Libertarians do believe in some government, just not a lot.
I thought government was considered "immoral"; or, is a little bit of immorality OK?
Ian Jackson
>They talk about it non stop in fairly mainstream libertarian thought. Who does? Ancap and libertarianism are not the same thing, and any one who claims to be a libertarian and wants to completely abolish the government is an ancap, no matter what they "identify" as.
Connor Foster
In a statist society what stops the government from monopolizing water and replacing it with sewage?
Wait, they already do. #Flint
Brandon White
At no point did I get the impression that they dislike government because it's "immoral"
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought they didn't like alot of government because big government is impractical, unfair, and inefficient. At no point did I hear a libertarian argue against big government on moral grounds. I could be wrong though, I don't follow many "top" US libertarians.
Grayson King
Come to think of it I'm guessing many US libertarians would argue against big gov on moral grounds, just to get the christian vote. Ben Carson's tax plan comes to mind, but he isn't a libertarian.
Chase King
>At no point did I get the impression that they dislike government because it's "immoral"
Isn't the entire Libertarian position on government based on the fact they think it's immoral?
They claim taxation is "theft", non?
Do they think a little bit of theft is OK?
Leo Gomez
They mostly believe a minimal government is a necessary evil. But only what is needed for the society to function in it's most basic form.
Ayden Sanders
What stops me from sage? Nothing, kiddo.
Ryder Harris
>Survival of the fittest. You realize that "the fittest" in this situation are the people who breed without regard to consequence and the poeple who are skilled at manipulating buracracies?
If you have read Turchin, you'll know this shit took down Roman Republic.
Kevin Morris
There's a middle ground between full natsoc and ancaps. It's called conservative here and I quite like it. The state can be used to account for certain nondesireable societal changes (Islam comes to mind) and to set basic parameters where absolutely necessary. Everything else is determined by the free citizens. Of course, you need chritian values to make it work (or at least some form of self improvement menatlity) but that is another story. Switzerland is full of niggers, arabs, alboshits and germans. The difference is they don't get state gibs, they have to work. This arrangement makes Switzerland very unpopular with the sandnigger vacationer crowd.
Lucas Garcia
lol they think it's theft if it isn't being used properly or inefficiently, such as huge government programs like obama care or social security. Obviously they are ok with paying for things like roads or firefighters to stop buildings from burning down.
I guess you are trying to troll by saying libertarians think ALL taxation is theft and taking their main argument to such an impractical extreme to make it seem their position is invalid.
Kevin Long
>the society to function in it's most basic form. Somalia? Pakistan? Nigeria? They function in basic forms.
Matthew Thompson
>Do they think a little bit of theft is OK? Basically. You have to decide what you support people getting shot for. >need mo money fo dem programs No >it's brown dawn! Dindu paratroopers are descending on the capital city to rape and murder and we need you to pay for its defense Yes
Zachary Bennett
>Isn't the entire Libertarian position on government based on the fact they think it's immoral?
Libertarian position is based on a perfect system. That simple won't happen. It misses 2 important human factors:
1. People are fucking retarded 2. People are fucking selfish
That's why it won't work, but it sure sounds nice. What you should do is be as self-sufficient as possible. I believe within 5-10 years that's going to be a lot cheaper to achieve and I think it's gonna hurt governments. But on the other hand, there's gonna be a shitload of retards for a long time. If you want an example, look at the US presidential elections.
Brandon Walker
Ya do know how to boil water aye?
Cooper Hill
Are you saying it won't work because people are retarded and will demand welfare? If that is the argument then I can't really deny that.
Hopefully a new america will emerge somewhere that used to be like the old america where the country wasn't a welfare state but a place for enterprise and hard work.
Gabriel Roberts
The alcohol goes out if he does that.
Lucas Brown
> Obviously they are ok with paying for things like roads or firefighters to stop buildings from burning down.
So, tax isn't theft when you like where the money's going?
Even if you still get thrown into jail for not paying it?
Christian Rivera
>Hurr durr The government can provide certain services, namely those that cannot be contested on a free market (police, firefighters, armies). The problem is when the state aquires a monopoly in an area that should be subject to the market and builds a bureaucracy around it to defend their privilege. You know, socialism.
No country has a libertarian free market yet kikes have complete control. Rly maeks u theenk
Dylan Perez
That's the same argument I used, at least the kike's wet dream argument. Capital does not supersede tradition and culture, an-cap future is all chinese/mexican. Anarchism is cancer, we aren't all white you retards.
Imagine relieving them of their "shackles". No regulation, no nothing. This time, they don't write the regulations.
Joseph Morales
So, "Libertarianism" is simply Minarchism?
It's just a rebranding exercise?
Adam Reed
It's common sense. I'm no radical libertarian, but call me whatever you want.
Nicholas Ortiz
>common sense.
That's an oxymoron, unfortunately.
"Common sense" will take you so far, but to understand a complex reality requires critical thinking.
Liam Johnson
In a truly free market only the most savvy will reach the top. No Corprotist trickery. So if a Jew gets rich in a libertarian society, they got rich fair and square. Why does it matter if their business is successful? Go make a better good or service and compete with them till bankruptcy
Dylan Gray
>In a truly free market only the most savvy will reach the top
In a truely "free market" system those who already have power will be at the top.
Same as it ever was.
Brayden Davis
>he thinks only a "company" can distribute water wew
This is how retarded statists are - they believe that only a pre-existing company can do things, no one else can do it, no one to come can do it.
Wyatt Campbell
When big business aren't given government handouts and middle and small businesses aren't put under regulations they can't afford, big business will be forced to actually compete rather then use the state as a tool to remove threats to profits. Things will balance out. "Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations"
Jayden Cruz
There are high barriers to entry in some markets.
No company in a free market system would invest in technology to compete with the likes of Intel. The costs are too high, and the risks too substantial.
The only way for a free market system to work is if all companies, their assets, and their patents are disolved and we reset the clock to year zero. This would breach the NAP, of course.
Jose Gonzalez
>Things will balance out.
How long does the correction take?
In the meantime, what do people do who can't afford to partcipate in the market for essential services while the markets "adjust"?
Grayson Hughes
Give it a few financial quarters and you'd see a change.
And they can find work wherever they can. Society will still run even if a some people are poorer then others. Who cares that the welfare leeches don't get their fix? I honestly don't care that people will have to take responsiblity for their own actions
Leo King
>Give it a few financial quarters and you'd see a change.
A few? Six months... minimum?
That's a long time to go without essential services like water, electricity, sanitation, food, shelter...
What if you have a medical condition?
If you're honest you'll acknowledge it could take decades for unsupported corporate economic power to unravel. Indeed, it might even strenghten with the removal of anti-trust regulation - initially, at least.
> Who cares that the welfare leeches
I don't think you realize, that's you.
Colton Allen
In the case of DB about 3 months. In the case of your car industry 50 years. In the case of your local lemonade stand about two weeks. Let me ask you a question: Would you rahter have an industry that produces plenty quality goods at low prices or a state supported industry that produces shitty goods and too few of them?
Camden Kelly
What is your proposal? Nationalize all industry deemed "of strategic value" and then everything will work out fine cuz the joos won't be in charge?
Justin Perry
If I was a CEO of a corporation and faced the removal of State support I would do the logical thing - buy resources. Buy all the productive land available, all mineral rich assets. I'd buy all the base material for wealth preservation that I could.
If you're a student of history, you'll recognise what I'm doing. And, you'd recognise the society that's being created.
It has a name.
Leo Nelson
>what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
The companies you intend to buy will have signed a contract that prevents them from selling their infrastructure to anybody who refuses to guarantee some minimal standard of cleanliness, because communities were unwilling to use their services without such a guarantee.
>What would stop me from also buying all the bottled water companies and selling bottled water at $100 a bottle?
Nobody in their right mind would go for such a move in the first place, knowing that people would just have drinkable tap water (see above) until competitors crop up and totally destroy their monopoly by selling bottled water at reasonable prices.
Wyatt Smith
Congrats, you have just made everyone with a plot of land where a well can be digged filthy rich. Also people who purify rainwater. Anyone having land near water and lakes whose water can be purified with simple means. Of course, buying water from local well-owner sucks, compared to having tapwater from your company. But eventually you go bankrupt and someone sane buys the water company. Or people create new one. Plus - how about the landowners whose lands your pipes are going to pass? If you fuck with people, they can easily fuck with you back.
Christian Young
You think there will be any small land owners left after the great corporate resourse rush? Especially if the land was once owned by the State...
Corporations would simply price the little guy out of the market and snap up all the resources. Land, and its productive capacity, would be the basis of wealth preservation in the new State free society.
Labour would be indentured, of course.
Easton James
>pointless speculations not backed up by any logic or evidence >refers to my post while literally failing to address anything i said
Jose Richardson
Then you would drive your corporation into the ground because resources are only worth for what they can be used immediately. What you plan on doing already exists btw. If you already are on state support something has gone terribly wrong. You were never profitable in the first place. You don't have any money to spend on your world domination fantasies. Nice try though. Let's explore the more likely scenario: You are a successful businessman and you have outsmarted your competition. You have a lot of money. You spend it on your castle and sexy housmaids. You produce your good, you have your castle, and you spend your money on luxuries. If you stop guaranteeing the quality of your good your competition will tear you apart. The state doesn't help you. If you stockpile cash inflation will make it worthless. You can invest it in new enterprises, but remember that because you don't have state support, people still have to buy the stuff you produce out of it.