No path to victory for Trump, now. PPP post-debate polling shows Clinton is pulling away in: >Colorado >Florida >North Carolina >Pennsylvania >Virginia With these states the election might as well be called now. >INb4 "M-Muh B-Brexit!" >Inb4 "M-Muh, O-Oversamples!" >iNBfour> "S-Sage! C-CTR!"
flash news, clinton was beating trump in VA and PA before the debates and in NC trump is up
Austin Moore
if only polls were accurate. if only it were possible for the numbers to change in the next month.
sage this garbage
Christopher Howard
inb4ing valid arguments is not a refutation. They are over sampling democrats.
Yes, there are 3% more democrats than republicans. But these polls are sampling more democrats than independents, who Trump is winning with.
Josiah Rogers
>Meanwhile, in reality.
Wyatt Myers
It's always "They're oversampling Democrats by (insert percentage Hillary is winning by) so correct the polls by subtracting the new arbitrary amount."
Didn't you guys learn you lesson in 2012?
Luke Parker
b-but muh twitter polls
Ethan Ortiz
Saged for lying
Luis Miller
>trump was just 12% in august >hahaha the election is over drumpf has no chance >skip forward two months >omg hillary up over 60 again election over hahahaah
Henry Barnes
>FL >blue >CO >blue
Connor Hall
>PPP
Austin Johnson
I wouldn't be bragging but Trump's retarded, so all these coming debates he'll just lose. Therefore the debates will bog him down further as each one is watched less, and election over. >I expect Nevada and North Carolina to turn for Hillary as well in the coming days.
Jose Peterson
lol Trump is likely going to be ahead in those states again (and more than once) throughout October. calm down CTR you fuckfaggot
Christopher Reed
>guaranteed replies
Ethan Gutierrez
>((NYP))
Aaron Gomez
Back to discord
Thomas Miller
You do realize there's two more debates right? Trump didn't even touch Clinton's biggest controversies in the first debate, he's saving the killing blow for latter.
James Garcia
trump wont win. just there to build his name and make money once he loses.
sucks bc i want to see his taxes. he wont win and willnever have a reason to show them
Josiah Baker
Oh my god, a purple state and a blue state are blue. Lets see >Colorado: Hillary +6 >Florida: Hillary +2. Hmmm.
Brandon Ross
>jew nate silver being wrong he wont be
Jacob Carter
>Florida >blue Top kek
Asher Long
First of all, I don't think that's true, Trump just doesn't know anything, but why? Each debate is watched less and less. Holding back attacks are fine, but was he also deliberately being a retard on stage?
First debate matters the most. Second debate gets a few glances. Third debate nobody remembers.
So, this next debate is his last chance. And he's way too stupid. On top of that, Hillary will counter with his own scandals. Motherfucker had rape charges against him and admits to being a tax-cheat, I mean what the fuck
William Powell
it'll be blu for sure user. don't be mad
Julian Gray
fpbp
Isaiah Anderson
Ofc he is finished, dude goes into a debate and speaks with less eloquence than a fucking 8 year old, broken sentences, scattered thoughts and constant ad hominem.
If he actually participated in the debate instead of talking to himself, perhaps would have been better.
Inb4 hillary shill, no, i hate that bitch, but he was beyond terrible on that debate.
Matthew Smith
Live near I-4 corridor in FL. Trump stickers everywhere Literally zero Hillary stickers
Nolan Ramirez
You're just making shit up. I can smell the shilling.
Gabriel Gonzalez
>job takes me all over the state >all I see on I-95 is trump and gary stickers >only place with hillary signs is on I-4 >almost every yard has a trump sign Mhm
Cameron Lee
its a single poll YOU FUCKING RETARD, look at aggregates. your parents must be ashamed, if they arent total retards themselves
Jeremiah Peterson
Brexit
Oversampled Dems
CTR
Thomas Wilson
>colorado >blue state
Luke Diaz
>the jewyork kikepost
Kill yourself
Oliver Diaz
>PPP Literally leftist drudge
Alexander Harris
>Didn't you guys learn you lesson in 2012? I didn't vote for Romney in 2012
Justin Brooks
Democrats truly are useful idiots.
>No fly zones in Syria >Resulting in direct conflict with Assad and Russia >Trump is a Putin agent because he wants to fix relations with Russia >Trump is more likely to start nuclear war
I want off this ride.
Sebastian Smith
Listen, redneck trucker, nobody cares where in the state you drive to deliver moonshine, Hillary is winning through scientific polls. You understand that nate's prediction here: Hasn't even factored in the PPP data yet? Its using the current aggregates from RCP which are underscoring cause PPP not in yet. Bitch.
Ryan Perry
>((your)) polls
Luke Sanders
>PPP >over sample dems by 20%+ >up by 4 >trump btfo
Im just saying, dont unpack yet fugees
Ayden Mitchell
Dude go to hell and stop spamming this board with your horseshit
Grayson Cox
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Ian Evans
>First debate matters the most.
Actually if you look at past presidential elections, candidates who won the first debate went on to lose the presidency.
Noah Williams
>Cred Forums in full panic mode cause they don't know what to do with their Trump Pepe meme folder if he loses
Nice.
Cant wait for the "Hillary wins!" Sticky and some annoying song forcibly blaring on Cred Forums come November.
I'm so excited for THE biggest shitposting extravaganza in the history of Cred Forums, like you have no idea.
Isaiah Perez
Are you triggered by reality, Trudeau?
Kayden Johnson
Clinton underperforms polls by more then 20 points on average.
That's because candidates usually were running much higher pre-debate than Trump was, and had a decisive comeback by the second debate. That's impossible for a retard like Trump.
Grayson Rogers
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Evan Thompson
Except the NY Post doesn't oversample Democrats. It's readers are amazingly more Republican. You don't know fucking shit, nigger.
>MUH TWO MORE DEBATES
Ah yes, the typical Trumpette argument. The first impression always matters today.
This is exactly what will cause Clinton to win in a landslide. Forget all the Trump scandals. Hillary has A LOT more ammo to use. And she'll pin the Trump scandals right head on while Trump himself refuses to change.
I support Trump too and I get this amount of hatred for saying what I say.
>a single poll
Try the majority of polls.
Justin Allen
But Michigan was an anomaly in polling. No other state had such discrepancies. So saying "on average" as though that happened anywhere else, is retarded.
Thomas Bennett
>Motherfucker had rape charges against him and admits to being a tax-cheat, I mean what the fuck no, he admits to paying as little tax as he legally can.
you know, the exact same thing you accountant does for you when you file your taxes?
the way hillary has framed this is hilarious. people actually have the cognitive dissonance to think trump should intentionally pay more taxes than he needs to
Easton Thompson
There is no reason to oversample dems when dem participation and confidence is 6 points lower then Repubs. Flawed polling methodology
Ethan Thomas
LOL Trump thinks he won the first debate. He thinks he "held back" cause he didn't mention Bill's sexual liaisons. He doesn't study for debates and he's going to go on the attack and faceplant HARD at the town hall.
Cooper Phillips
trump fucked up the debate hard
i've never seen more than 3 Hillary signs in my florida town (a college town even)
but since the debate, i can count 25 Hillary signs on my way to work, which is only a 8 minute drive.
They have also been fucking playing TWO Hillary commercials on the radio every day on my way to work.
which again is only an 8-10 minute drive.
Either shes freaking out Or trump lost
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Luke Roberts
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH PEOPLE ACTUALLY THOUGHT TRUMP HAD A CHANCE????
Jace Myers
>primaries show significant reduction in turnout for democrats, significant turnout increase for republicans >trump is incredibly charismatic, while even leftists will admit that hillary has no charisma >hillary's campaign platform is, across the board, the polar opposite of what a large portion of the democratic party wanted (bernie) >trump rallies draw 10x-100x more people than hillary rallies >early ballot requests indicate a significant increase in republican enthusiasm, reduction in democrat enthusiasm >models that do not involve polls (primary model, 13 keys, etc...), which are historically more accurate than poll-based models, point to a trump landslide
All logic says that Trump is leading by an enormous margin, and yet "the polls" indicate otherwise. When we see strange results in private industry, we don't just throw up our hands and say, "welp, the data is always right!" No, a result that defies logic warrants investigation. The data is worthless if you can't explain it.
I'm still looking for a leftist to explain why "the polls" are correct despite defying all logic. In previous elections, the polls lined up with logic. Why is this election different?
Yes, the vast majority of leftists are amazingly dumb, dumb enough to think that buzzfeed is a journalistic publication, but I would think that there would be SOMEONE who could offer a logical explanation to validate the poll results. All they can do is say, "well, that's just the hard data, man", "the polls are the polls", "you're just mad that trump is losing", "nate silver can predict the future today since he has hillary leading". Those explanations are only good enough for idiot leftist cattle.
Gabriel Thomas
your point was that the election might be lost based on these 5 states, which you base off of a single PPP poll. you don't get to bring 538 into it you fucking mong. articulate yourself better. you're a chubby pathetic faggot and you should drown yourself, nobody likes you, and your parents wish you weren't such a waste of air
Parker Adams
Add in Trump's dealings with Cuba in 1998 that were just revealed, and FL is lost.
Jayden Williams
And do we know about Trump's rape scandal coming up in the next debate? Look forward to that one, Trumpette
>Either she's freaking our or Trump lost
The latter.
Robert Robinson
Kek demands Trump to win, get over it Hillfags! Praise Kek
Leo Brown
Said the increasingly nervous "man"
Colton Collins
There are several rape scandals, on of which Ivana testified on. He's toast.
Lucas Green
Why is the LA Times poll disregarded everywhere despite being listed by RCP?
Josiah Walker
You understand primaries are a bit different than the general, right? Primaries and midterms aren't relevant to the general. Republicans will always dominate midterms and primaries, but most apathetic dems and left-indps. wont vote, but will vote come November. This has been done like a trillion times and you still dont get this.
Evan Smith
It's a consistent outlier from the onset.
Ian Morales
Because it's the only poll you Trumpettes use. Find another one. We're showing you at least 20 more and your response is MUH ONLINE POLLS R OVERSAMPLED
Matthew Robinson
Because LA Times has the record to be included, but its an obvious outlier using odd methodology that'll likely get it booted just like Gallup was in 2012, come the next election. We use it to gauge direction, but not actual standing.
Jackson Gray
So using Bloomberg/NBC/PPP is fine but LA/Brietbart/Rasmussen is not? Why?
Grayson Nguyen
The real question is, will Hillary bring it up? She ought too, if Trump brings up Bill.
Asher Allen
Are you seriously asking why serious people don't take a Breitbart poll seriously?
Justin Baker
Because the first one is using a weird methodology, Breitbart is a right-wing biased entity, and Rasmussen isn't valid enough to be included in the main polling department.
Besides, defend how he broke the Cuba embargo. I'm waiting.
Josiah Thompson
There are only 2 outliers that don't follow the win primary turnout winning the general both of which can be explained
Ryan Adams
>durrr uh uh uh uh bbbut da general is different uh uh uh but polls!!!! uh uh me right u rong!!!! Are you braindead? You leftists are all exactly the same, and all drooling retards. You didn't explain anything here, you have literally no argument. All you can do is parrot what your owners tell you. Try again, or don't, you're out of your league... kek
Easton Ramirez
Which should be taken seriously and why?
Luke Williams
If by Brietbart, you mean Gravis, we do use it. And Gravis showed Hillary's post debate bounce. >Bloomberg/NBC/PPP Those polls have a history of being accurate >LA/Brietbart/Rasmussen Rasmussen skews right because it uses landlines. So its taken less seriously, Breitbart (Gravis?) is taken moderately seriously. And LA openly admits their methodology is different.
Brandon Morgan
More Republican candidates attract more voters
WEW LAD
Samuel Ward
lol, same reason noone takes huffpo or vox or any other leftist rag seriously?
538 doesn't disregard it. It's right there under USC Dornsife/LA Times sept. 22-28.
Benjamin Gomez
Personally I think her best response is this: "I'm here to talk about what I can do for the American people. You just dumped a dead horse on the stage and insist on beating it, and I don't think a response would be appropriate. Let's talk about what matters going forward."
Andrew Johnson
Come up with your own argument then. While your at it. Please defend why Trump broke the Cuba embargo and how it will INEVITABLY cost him the election along with rape scandals AND tax returns.
Zachary Nelson
>Well, the IRS and other agencies that have investigated Trump for the last 15 years have never found that Trump did anything illegal over the years, but our reporters say maybe he did.
This is you.
Christopher Cruz
BTFO by Fucking lol!! How does it feel to be an idiot, leftist? Go back to ledit, it's more on your level.
Reminder that Reagan, Bush and Obama all lost their first debate (in which they were worse than Trump) and still won in the end.
Asher Gonzalez
>90873865 Come up with an argument first.
CTR doesn't exist.
Leo Cox
Wait, you don't trust the Murdoch owned right wing rag? Good move.
Aaron Wilson
>but will vote come November.
Sorry honey. Hilairy isn't a meme candidate like Obango. Blacks wont turn out in droves like they did for King Kong. There is absolutely NO enthusiasm for her. Thats why King and Queen Kong are shilling so hard right now to get out the meme voters. They know they are fucked.
Brayden White
They studied and knew they lost.
Isaiah Perez
Oh, have you finished the election? No? Then wind your fucking neck in >'inb4 argument which proves I'm a stupid cunt'
Julian Lopez
But Trump also violated the Cuba embargo, is the center of multiple rape scandals, and still has yet to release his tax returns.
Do the math. This is going to crash down on him next debate. You're not aware of what will come.
Easton Baker
nobody is going to turn out to vote for that dried out cunt witch, Hillbag
Trump has this election.
Dominic Ramirez
What argument? I asked for an explanation as to why the polls diverge from all other indicators, when in other elections they lined up. You just said "duhhhhh no! duhhhh u rong" like a typical drooling leftist regard. Work that atrophied chicken brain!! I'm humiliating here.
Tyler Torres
>PPP >Democratic pollsters >agenda push polls to push a narrative
Nice try, cucks
Robert Garcia
>He DID Well he'll surely be held accountable then since there's so much credible evidence.
Julian Morgan
Now Trump is successfully un-scary.
The next debate he can take her apart on policy.
Why not on first debate? That would make him scary.
People see ok Trump's not scary, but he still appears to be more of an entertainer than they expect from a president.
Next debate he could bring up the low blows he has against Clinton, but maybe he won' t. Maybe he'll establish himself as a thoughtful intelligent candidate, keeping the ammo in his pocket.
This is what happened. People who were scared of him aren't but now they think he's a lightweight.
Time to go wonk on Hillary.
Landon Gray
>NY Post >right wing
Fucking retard
Easton Rogers
Next debate is a town hall. You win those by being touchy-feely. He will go in thinking he needs to be hyperaggressive alpha and in attack mode. This is going to be spectacular.
Elijah Rogers
i hate to say but the woman card might fuck things up. oh it will be so historic right
Luis Gonzalez
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Nathan Allen
I think she should say: "Firstly, that's not true. You're reading right-wing conspiracy theories, and unlike me, you've been accused of rape and testified against by your wife. Which would be in-line in the way you treat women. But I'm not here to attack you on that issue, I'm here for the American people, not silly Esquire-like headlines." >This would trigger Trump >He would spend 20 minutes rambling on the rape accusation by Ivanka >While Hillary smiles and looks presidential, thus winning
Bentley Mitchell
>Nate "Wrong About Literally Everything To Do With This Election So Far" Silver Lel
Jeremiah Russell
Oh you don't know? Look that shit up, boss. NYP is right wing as you can get.
Sebastian Jenkins
I asked a question, you gave no answer but typical leftist "duhhhh me owners tell me dis duhhhhh". You're worthless I already won the argument, im just humiliating you to give a morale boost to other anons.
Daniel Brown
>they know they are fucked
No, they're just voicing their opinions. This is not desperation. Plus, Trump charges less for his rallies. This is why the poor people can attend! If Clinton lowered her rally tickets, you can bet your behind we'd fill up a lot of venues more than Trump could ever do so
Julian Perez
Yes, it's a close race but Trump is the better leader. People are partisan and love their team, but regardless Trump would make a better president.
Julian Flores
Except I've provided examples, you've yet to provide all but one.
Carson Hernandez
If you look at statistics with which side wins the presidency, it's very common for it to switch every 1 to 2 terms. Since Obama won 2 terms already it's not in the democrat's favor to win it again. That doesn't mean it will happen, but statistics do show this trend.
>This is why the poor people can attend! If Clinton lowered her rally tickets,
>this is what the shills actually believe
im laughing my ass off right now
Parker Hill
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Eli Jones
>Trump is the better leader Explain this
Jace Williams
Still angry that our tax payer dollars are going to publicly campaign for Hillary and against Trump. Not that Obongo cares about the laws, likely would find a loophole if confronted.
Daniel Anderson
>in which they were worse than Trump But they were smart. They study for their debates. And they weren't worse than Trump, the fuck are you talking about?
Nicholas Flores
You are obviously not in South Florida. The rest of the state always votes Republican you fucking retard, did you just turn 18? South Florida is where all the Democrat votes come from, hence it being a swing state.
Joshua Diaz
Charge for rallies? You thinking of fund raisers bro? Rallies are free.
Jayden Jones
>their opinions.
Yes. Their opinion they are fucked. You think he'd be this hard out shilling if they thought they were up? Head Dems are FREAKING out right now.
Eli Kelly
fpbp
Jonathan Thompson
Oh wow, a bunch of shit that doesnt matter.
Mason Stewart
>>Colorado Colorado is still +0.5 for Trump in the RCP average. NOT A MUST WIN >>Florida Yes, Florida is at +0.5 for Hilldog in the RCP average, but because of one outlier small sample poll that has Hilldog at +5 >>North Carolina Solid Trump, what are you even talking about. We are talking +0.8 here for Trump in the average >>Pennsylvania Yes, that is barely for Clinton in the average and it is NOT A MUST WIN >>Virginia NOT A MUST WIN
Only NC and Florida are MUST WINS, idiot.
Leo Reed
RCP shows nothing. Where are you getting state polls?
Liam Price
>just give up goy there's no point in trying I wonder if this tactic has ever worked
Blake Hall
A small else within the main of error in 4 out of 5 states from a small poll man he is btfo! I'm a hilpdawg now!
William Baker
(scientific polls)
Lucas Gonzalez
Yeah, but you're going to have to take into account demographics shift. Minorities and left-leaning whites are increasing, while Conservatives and Republicans are dying with the Boomers. Frankly, as Bush senior says, this is possibly the last presidential election Republicans can get.
Gabriel Kelly
And yet Trump still broke the record for most primary votes.
Brandon Gomez
Who are you trying to convince?
You don't even make a single case for why Hillary is better, you just say stupid shit.
Mason Jackson
See Raw charisma, talent with persuasion, gravitas.... leadership is a personality Hillary doesn't have. She comes across in her best light as an equivocating lawyer. Now, that might trick you into thinking she's smart.
Either way, see my referenced post - her negatives are huge and will in fact reduce her effectiveness in DC. Shes a partisan through and through and... no one likes her.... that matters.
Im trying guys.. But north carolina is still filled with protestant cucks. No one here supports trump.. I fucking hate this state when it comes to politics. Our governer is a big fucking cuck too after seeing his plan of action in the charolette riots.
Xavier Sanchez
Either he gets his shit together and hammers home the next two debates or he may as well not bother to show up.
Dominic King
PPP has not been factored into RCP yet. CNN's polls skews right, but are still factored in. Only post-debate Colorado shows HRC +6 in Colorado. And without the PPP poll, 538 has HRC likely to win Colorado still at 66%.
>Florida Get ready for another Florida poll that has Hillary +2 four-way and +5 two-way.
All your other shit doesnt matter. The polls are being factored into RCP's average now, Nazi.
Isaiah Jenkins
>increasingly nervous man says there is no path to victory for trump for the 8 billionth time this year
Hunter Anderson
>PPP Ask yourself why RCP didn't bake these into the average yet.
Isaac Powell
Flip CO in that map and see what happens. Not a must win, eh?
Lucas Wilson
Cause it takes time? They dont just spring in action and put it in. PPP is a commonly used poll in RCP, Canuck. Go back to Tim Hortons and stop being obsessed with American politics you obviously know nothing about
Jayden Morales
you guys better hope Trump brings his fucking A game in the next debate because if he fucks up that one like he did this one it's over
Samuel Nguyen
I honestly don't understand why CTR even comes here. Sure there are a lot of lurkers, but it's not like they will just accept completely whatever CTR is saying without at least some research. Clinton's money is better spent on more facebook/reddit/twitter shit than spamming Cred Forums and having it spill over into Cred Forums
Hilary is gonna win but its gonna be really close due to people being to apathetic to go out and vote for Hillary.
She is gonna lose florida and win a few others and its gonna be 272 or 263 or some shit and its gonna be lots of drama and so close that the establishment will be able to rig it in their favor and not get caught if need be.
Oliver Bell
The first debate is over, Trump messed up.
The election is more than a month away.
Easton Jones
No it doesn't take time. The Rasmussen polling us up within the hour it was published.
RCP. Ah yes the good old "Romney beats Obama" announcement.
Kevin Thompson
What does Trump's A-game look like? He's never been any different at any other debate. But he can hide when he's on the ropes in the latter debates that didn't matter.
Now he's front and center, and the contrast could not have been clearer.
Jeremiah Wood
>being this desperate
Chase Bennett
>Frankly, as Bush senior says, this is possibly the last presidential election Republicans can get.
But, IF republicans do win, then the dems are soundly fucked, as they have been running on identity politics for the last 10 years?
Who the fuck do they have left on their roster? Hilary and Warren and Bernie will all be too old. And they have no token blacks or hispanics left in the pen to take up the reigns.
The senate COULD flip but the house is going to be soundly red for awhile. If Trump wins and packs the supreme court then all 3 branches of government will be red at the federal level.
And God forbid Trump does a good job. If he does a good job then that EIGHT YEARS and not four the dems have to wait making congress presence even LOWER and totally strikes out all the old faggots I mentioned that still wanted to run.
Plus if the two terms are fruitful, then we can say >lmao all 3 branches were red and look how things went, fuck y'all
That would be a killing blow for dems. Totally game over.
A lot hinges on this for both sides.
Jose Hughes
PPP is the equivalent of Breitbart polls.
Bentley Gomez
I thought so too at first, and it would've helped with Trump talked more actual policy instead of usual sound-bites, but later I rewatched the debate and notice that: Trump had to deal with having two opponents constantly on the attack instead of one. It's hard not to mess up when almost every question is either direct attack or meant to put you on the defencive.
Kevin Nguyen
You're such a twerp. When it does get put up, what's your complaint going to be, then? You honestly think they're ignoring PPP? They use it all the time.
Jaxson Perry
I didn't vote in 2012. Romney was an establishment joke who would have sucked marginally less cock than Obama, and he still would have taken all the globalist dicks.
Joshua Barnes
RCP chucks pro-Trump polling that fails to meet standards all the time.
This round of PPP polling is so junk it isn't being baked into the average. Get over it.
Lucas Gutierrez
Trump will win. He will be further ahead than this, after the upcoming debates, more wikileaks, more Hillary blunders, etc.
Just like Trump's tax returns and the birther "issue," amirite?
Cooper Hernandez
Dude, there is nothing he can do.
He literally has no plan, all he does it repeatedly say he is going to fix it and "trust him"
>fix inner city crime? >LAW AND ORDER >defeat isis? >She couldnt do it for years Trust me I'll get it done >Negotiate trade deals? >Listen, I'll do what no one else has been able to do ever because I'm Trump >Immigration? >MAKE BORDER STRONG! >fix economy? >Tax cuts and deregulations! There no way american business will ever take advantage!
I really dont get the economy decision... All Hilary has to do is go "2008 recession" over and over again and he looks like a fool.
It's like he really is a moron and didnt listen to anyone when they tried to get him to put something in his platform that would sway the undecideds over to him.
Stupid stupid stupid
Kevin Rogers
>constantly lying and being racist >not important This is easy, how do I get CTR to pay me?
Lincoln Brown
Trump will get impeached unless he becomes and establishment bitch boy in office.
The dude acts like he is running for emperor, if he crosses congress or acts a fool in foreign relations he is gone.
Both sides will be happy to do it.
Jaxon Gray
Have you, just saying, but have you ever, like ever, like do as much as like, go on the actual candidate's website and read his clearly outlined plans to make america great again? Or would you rather shitpost about how Trump uses words that sound nice to average voter but offer no substance to more intelligent people?
Austin Martinez
A HAI SEE TEE ARR
John Reed
>Listen, redneck trucker, nobody cares where in the state you drive to deliver moonshine,
You realize that this kind of generalization is losing her votes right?
Tyler James
What is BREXIT and oversamples CTR faggot.
Lucas Davis
Kek, don't worry maybe you can just skewer some useless online polls to say you won anyway.
Matthew Ortiz
That's not the case at all. In most cases they're over sampling Dems by double digit, under sampling IND by 20+, and Clinton is winning 1~4pts. This is far from "Romney all over again".
Parker Rodriguez
>PPP
Juan Parker
Hey tell your candidate to go read his website then if his plans are so clearly outlined because he sounds like he knows nothing when he speaks.
and his website has very vague "plans" relative to say Shillarys website
Grayson Turner
And now Nesweek just came out hat Trump knowingly violated the cuban embargo. Just as early voting is about to start in Florida.
Welp.
Alexander Cooper
>and his website has very vague "plans" relative to say Shillarys website
You've never read either website.
Jonathan Robinson
>Hey tell your candidate to go read his website then if his plans are so clearly outlined because he sounds like he knows nothing when he speaks. Looks like: >Or would you rather shitpost about how Trump uses words that sound nice to average voter but offer no substance to more intelligent people? Was a hook, line, and sinker.
Hi CTR.
Gavin White
Unfortunately that's the spin. I'm curious how it will resonate though. Do Cunans really take what white liberals have to say about them to heart?
Adrian Wood
>90880576 No plan (which is a myth) is better than a bad plan.
Mason Morales
>inb4 CTR
Really OP? Im not aware election day is tomorrow and we only have one debate. Suck a dick queer, anyone with a brain could tell Holt was working for hillary.
>muh conspiracy
Listen, there comes a point where someone is crazy for saying there are conspiracies, tinfoil hat, whatever, not this time. She has had way too many fucking scandals for them NOT to be questioned in that debate. So no user, go learn arab you cuck election is not over
Luis Jenkins
You know he started off really well in the first half of the debate then he just went to shit. He needs to address the causes of that work on it and focus. I don't want to see his dumb ass holding pressers when he should be spending the entire fucking week with his team practicing for the next debate.
If he can't be fucked putting in the effort then he should have never run to begin with.
Zachary Perez
Do you realize that the same god damn things have been said and the polls have been accurate for american elections for 20 years now?
Do you know what a scientific poll is?
Get the establishment boogeyman out of your asshole.
There will be no massive error in methodology that will have Trump winning against all of the evidence to the contrary.
Polling is peoples livelihood, their profession. And you sit behind your pc and screech about why they are all wrong.
Cameron King
I'm likeable come on guys, here let me find a picture holding a baby, or me as child....Im human!
Connor Williams
He couldn't stay strong because of Holt's questions being clearly biased and meant to place him on defencive rather than talk actual policies (which the debate was suppose to be about).
Atleast READ the questions Holt asked each candidate and how Holt responded.
Evan Bennett
answer the questions on this post with information from his website.
I fucking dare you.
Asher Miller
Frankly Im not voting for King Debater.
I want President, a leader, someone who loves this country.
Ryan Phillips
Not to this extent. Romney unskewing was trying to correct polls which were outside the margin of error and with much less sampling issues. There's also other issues which makes this year's polling inaccurate just on the face of it.
Zachary Gomez
Or you could do something useful with your life and actually read the website instead of asking others to spoonfeed you.
Robert Reyes
Thr Trump phenomenon defies logic. The fact that he wasn't even supposed to come close to winning the GOP nomination, yet still did, shows that the urban elitist kikes who run the media are way out of touch with the average American. Look you nigger loving kikes, fly over country i.e. everything between Jew York and Fag Angeles, is tired of your bullshit. Trump might be an idiot but he's our idiot and he's going to win. The people have spoken. Keep ignoring us if you want. The globalist shills are about to be assraped and your old hag of a candidate doesn't stand a chance. Now fuck off and go Correct The Record on how the my nutsack tatstes. It's good, bitches.
Luis Miller
> referencing Nate Silver-Jew >being this obvious of a shill
we know #yourwithher, but you're not changing any minds over here.
Andrew Bell
Exile cubans FUCKING HATE Castro - them being such a massively important vote bloc in Florida (and one that traditionally went republcan) is literally the only reason why the embargo is still a thing.
If this stuff has any substance to it at all, Trump has just lost Florida.
Colton Barnes
No they don't realise. They are going to shout that Trump will win until the results come in and he gets BTFO.
Jacob Murphy
A moderator does have a job to do, and unfortunately for trump there has never been someone so willing to blatantly lie in the face of hard proof. The clash culminated in Trump claiming he was never in favor of the war, we have a quote from an interview in 2002 showing trump says he was.
Holt was easily within his role as a moderator to point out why he initially asked the question of Trump changing his mind.
All the other bias questions was a moderator simply trying to get an actual answer out of a candidate as all moderators have done in every debate ever.
and finally because Trump had to respond to every single thing Hillary said and refused to not have the last word and caused long back and forths all the questions Holt had prepared were not able to be asked.
So in fact you have no way of knowing if more Hilary hard questions were coming.
I guarantee you benghazi was on the list though.
Andrew Morgan
I trust Trump to be guided by the correct principles of America first, when he is instructing his underlings.
SHe can write books about policies.
She is fundamentally flawed as a decision maker, she's a felon, she's corrupt as a politician - she's fucked.
You can fill reams of paper with type....you cant write away her fundamentally corrupt and untrustworthy personality.
She a fucking corrupt liar and felon.
I dont give a fuck if she writes a library full of policy papers.
Guess what, she didnt write the ones on her website.
Stop shilling so hard. Wake up and smell the coffee, she's deeply fucked up. You picked a lemon, stop trying to bury us with "paper" on how great she is because she posts 100WPM on her website.
Fuck off.
Isaiah Sanchez
Did this happen because of the debates? I don't remember him a lead like this without having virginia
Eli Hill
Don't forget
Brayden Harris
You realize nobody fucking reads or trust mainstream media anymore. That's what you fucks don't understand. Nobody is tuning in
William Ward
>Clinton >winning florida
I wish they would stop pulling numbers out of their ass
>The payment by Trump Hotels came just before the New York business mogul launched his first bid for the White House, seeking the nomination of the Reform Party. On his first day of the campaign, he traveled to Miami, where he spoke to a group of Cuban-Americans, a critical voting bloc in the swing state. Trump vowed to maintain the embargo and never spend his or his companies’ money in Cuba until Fidel Castro was removed from power.
Eli Nelson
LOOK AT ALL HER POSTS ON HER WEBSITE ABOUT POLICIES....IGNORE THAT SHE IS A CORRUPT FELON WITH TERRIBLE JUDGEMENT
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Kevin Barnes
>PPP Discarded. >muh "muh reasonable reason as to why this shit it fucked up"
Jayden Taylor
Threads move too fast for that level of break down. I'll do this:
>fix inner city crime? >LAW AND ORDER Not demonizing the police or their methods publicly every chance you get while simultaneously racebaiting is a start.
>defeat isis? >She couldnt do it for years Trust me I'll get it done That's truth. While he hasn't outlined a specific plan for it, he does want the Generals to propose a military plan to make it happen and he had sensitized the American public to what such a war will look like under his administration.
>Negotiate trade deals? >Listen, I'll do what no one else has been able to do ever because I'm Trump This is true. We haven't, in a very long time, sent our best to negotiate deals in the interests of America. He wants to give China to Carl Icahn, that already sets him head and shoulders above anyone else claiming they can negotiate a deal. He also wants to end multilateral trade deals which fuck us and make bilateral agreements instead.
>Immigration? >MAKE BORDER STRONG! This one has been on his website for over a year. He got tired of explaining it and has reduced it to "build wall".
>fix economy? >Tax cuts and deregulations! There no way american business will ever take advantage And removal of excess labor and rebuild the infrastructure.
Bentley Turner
>North Carolina Calling bullshit on that. We're a lot like Florida red as fuck except for around a couple of big cities.
Leo Walker
Doneso
Jacob Barnes
I have read the website.
You cannot sufficiently answer the questions I pointed out to you with the information there.
Go ahead, try.
Noah Gray
I dunno. They hate Clinton for sending Elion back.
Angel Evans
>not saging clickbait poll threads It's called Cred Forums, not /poll/ Sage
Aaron Cruz
Moron,
see this, she can post a hurricane of words on her website, its not going to change her past and who she is. Nothing will change her horrible past and horrible judgement. No matter how many white papers she copy and pastes onto her website.
Tyler Lopez
when will dumbfuckistans from the shill hills realize anyone tuning in to the MSM is now the equivalent of TPing the trees of a grouchy old woman on halloween. You only go there to get some fun at the expense of the old, out-of-touch hag
Nathaniel Green
Was that meant for me? Cuz I dont get it if it was.
Jaxon White
So, you admit that your candidate basically shits on the poor. And you wonder why the poor are starting to defect.
Nicholas Nguyen
It was for the pro HRC camp, sorry if mis tagged
Easton Thomas
First of all user, thank you for Correcting the Record.
Now, to your statements: >A moderator does have a job to do, and unfortunately for trump there has never been someone so willing to blatantly lie in the face of hard proof. You mean how he was "fact-checked" about stop-and-frisk being unconsitutional and ineffective, despite the fact that this was a lie on moderator's plan and stop-and-frisk has shown great results? >The clash culminated in Trump claiming he was never in favor of the war, we have a quote from an interview in 2002 showing trump says he was. You mean where Trump dismissively said "yeah I guess so" to move on to different topics and then in January 2003, couple months before the invasion, he made a press-statement on Fox about how he's against the war? >Holt was easily within his role as a moderator to point out why he initially asked the question of Trump changing his mind. Only for Trump and Trump never changed his mind. Simply he didn't have an opinion on it in 2002 and then in 2003, before the war, he made a statement how he's against the war before the war even started? >All the other bias questions was a moderator simply trying to get an actual answer out of a candidate as all moderators have done in every debate ever. So calling Trump a sexist, tax dodger, and a racist are completely find questions while Hillary gets a pass? >and finally because Trump had to respond to every single thing Hillary said and refused to not have the last word and caused long back and forths all the questions Holt had prepared were not able to be asked. Hillary was given more floor to speak than Trump, and the questions constantly came towards Trump. Maybe if Holt decided to do one-personal question per person then it'd be another story, he did not. >So in fact you have no way of knowing if more Hilary hard questions were coming. So your argument is that because Holt spent so much time attacking that he ran out of time to ask anything of Hillary. Ok
Charles Bailey
No worries. Just confused me.
Anthony Reyes
Sometimes I think these people will never get it. This election is gorilla warfare and we have 40 more days in the jungle.
Camden Gonzalez
A felon is someone who is convicted in a court of law by definition. She was not, and so is not a felon.
She may be corrupt, she may have self serving interest and happy to help friends for a price.
What you and everyone seems to misunderstand is that none of that means she isn't capable and willing to run the country and make it a better place.
This is her fucking legacy we are talking about, first woman president.
You think she just wants to do it to line her pockets for the 15 years of old age she has left?
Trump is fucked up and a liar but you love him because he wants to make america great again.
Why can't hilary be the same? why cant she also be a greedy ambitious egotistical conniving cunt who wants to be president and do the job right?
Do you really think TRUMP of all people isnt going to try and fuck the system, circumvent laws, play by his own rules??!?!?!
And you call Hillary unfit for barely doing so?
Backwards fuckign thinking.
Wyatt Cox
As much as I want trump to win, he really fucked up massively in the debate and undecideds eat debate shit up. He can only win now if he does something insanely attention grabbing in a good way.
Matthew Ortiz
>tfw almost every one of those states have been Democratic locks over the past 20 years and now Democratic polling firms (((PPP))) are upbeat when HIllary is barely winning any of them
It's gonna be a fucking landslide for Trump
Christopher Lee
> Why can't hilary be the same? why cant she also be a greedy ambitious egotistical conniving cunt who wants to be president and do the job right? Because we already have years of Bill Clinon and Obama showing her plans ineffective. What do you call someone who keep doing the same thing, over and over with no change, while expecting different results?
Connor Carter
You mean how undecideds moved to Trump 34-5 as opposed to Hillary, after the debate?
Landon Perez
DELET THIS GRRRR REEEEEEEEE
Tyler Butler
Brexit Oversamples Sage CTR
Juan Rogers
We haven't had months of investigations, so no.
Christopher Allen
>stop-and-frisk has shown great results? It really hasn't. Why are you faggots still trying to push this?
Connor Thomas
that really corrected my record
John Howard
>Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Virginia being swing states. >Trying this hard.
Top cuck.
Leo Cruz
Are you a nigger or a woman?
Angel Jackson
>President has zero control over how media portrays police. Not even close to a plan.
>implying generals haven't proposed hundreds of plans before.. >implying he is jsut going to launch offensive after offensive until one works >implying that is an effective "plan"
>again, me and my people are better than everyone else, trust.
>ehhh its still kidna pointless but something does need to be done about border, Ill give trump points here
>Adding the unspoken line that somehow makes trickle down economics viable this one really irks me, we have a plethora of data and know the american economy is basically an oligarchy and the vast majority of wealth created by tax cuts and deregulation will go to the top 1%.
What makes you think the culture of big business has changed in the slightest?
Camden Wood
>Trusting media polls >Memory holing Brexit.
sage
Ian Wood
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Ayden Ramirez
>Florida >going blue this election
Kek, more than 2 million Reps showed up to vote in the primaries, only 1.6 Million showed up to vote Dem.
Maybe Trump won't get most of the Rubio votes, but Shillary won't get the Bernie votes either.
Joshua Moore
Oops! Better check your pants for shit, because you are a far right retard.
Bush won every one of those states except PA in 2004. Romney won North Carolina.
Are you just willfully ignorant, or trying to lie to your fellow babydicks to try to keep them hard?
Drumpf is finally done. Every post-debate poll confirms it. #SHEWON
Give it one more week. King Babydick will be back down to a 10% chance of winning on 538, same place he was in August.
You pantshitters already shot your slimy little loads with #Hillaryhealth too. Guess what, she did collapse in broad daylight, and two weeks later nobody gives a single fuck.
Nobody cares if Hillary has terminal cancer (she doesn't). If something happens, we get President Kaine, which is a million times better than a racist, grossly unqualified oompa loompa ruling the most powerful country on earth.
Grab your spoon, kiddo. You're going to need it to dig the shit out of your pants on election night. Maybe sooner, by the second debate, when Drumpf spews rotten diarrhea all over himself on national TV again.
Ryder Hill
You're dumb and childish, even for this board.
Can you leave Cred Forums please?
Juan Harris
He's too low energy to defeat her
Ayden Taylor
So because he didn't scream it from teh rooftops he wasn't for it? Obviously something changed if he went from yeah I guess so to statement of fox denouncing it right? Thats what holt was asking him, what made him change his mind...
There are no questions about Hilary dodging taxes being sexist or racist...
Trump has 5 minutes more speaking time than Hilary and quite literally never gave Hillary the last word. He harped and repeated himself on the same issues for far too long.
There is not much "attack" questions for hilary besides email and benghazi and clinton foundation.
If trump had actually followed the rules of a debate at least two of those three would have been asked.
Trump by his nature and history has very many "attack questions" that is a moderators job to ask about because the people want to know the answers.
Nathan Martinez
>PPP not factored in yet. >Not even right since Hillary leads by pre-debate polls in Florida.
Chase Johnson
fpbp
Ryan Scott
HILLARY CLINTON BLAMED A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL FOR HER RAPE.
Pretty much this. The moderator is not a chaperone that's supposed to keep the candidate from going full retard.
Oh boy, a criminal defense attorney got someone off the hook and got evidence tossed out on technicality. Not like that's her job or anything.
Correct way to go about any accusation would be: "Well that is simply untrue, what happened actually was bla bla bla" Incorrect way to go about accusations is: "WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, I never said that, WRONG".
Mason Brooks
>Breitbart
Jayden Watson
No. The more you want me to leave, the longer I stay.
It's a dirty job in this alt right pigsty, but someone's got to do it. Who else will remind far right pantshitters that their dicks are small, they will never get over their crippling social anxiety, and they secretly want strong feminists to use them as human footstools? WHO???
The best part is I won't stop after the election. I'm going to rub every wild success of Madam President in your bitter little faces. I'm going to remind you every single day how you beat your chests before that first brutal debate, how you swore up and down that the poor sick little woman would be obliterated by the big loud man who totally doesn't look like a walking heart attack.
Fuck you, pantshitters. You're going to be reminded King Babydick lost night and fucking day.
She's inevitable, but I'm not. You have three easy choices to make me go away: stop hating brown people and women, get yourselves institutionalized, or find a fucking rope to end your pain and suffering on election night.
Henry Williams
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Gavin Robinson
>nate silver
aside from being a blatant hillary shill, he's been continuously adjusting his "prediction" over the entire course of the campaign. >h-h-he always predicts right!
Just some shitter with a democrat bias, move along.
Samuel Cruz
>last debate before the election takes place >nobody cares about it
Wew, this is some dank retardation.
Justin Green
LOL
> t 7 inches get the fuck out of America you illegal swine
Jayden Cooper
Is this a pasta?
Why are people giving cringeworthy speeches all the time on Cred Forums lately? Is everyone just trying to get their post saved for posterity?
Christ you're not Patton, fuckoff already.
Jose Gutierrez
CTR you better fuck off.
WE all know your into that "kiddie" stuff
Liam Ortiz
Got any compilations of comments of Trumpkins claiming he'd win. Kinda like the 2012 crap where Romneytards thought he'd win.
I need some for posting on November 9th.
Reality has this annoying liberal bias doesn't it.
Austin Richardson
I LOVE YOU
Luke Sullivan
>adjusting predictions Oh my god, it's almost like predictions in polls are based on numbers, and not some fairytale magic powers to see the future. >retarded Brit saying something Dude, what happened in the last Romney v. Obama debate? What happened in the last Republican or Democrat debate? Nobody remembers, limey.
Christian Robinson
>nypost pays for views
>shill writes ctr-sounding shitpost >guaranteed replies who fucking cares anymore
? electionfags need their own board. youve done nothing but spam cringey shitposts like this one. everyone who replies without saging is shit tier too
Elijah Young
>he thinks he's proving his point by staying stay here while I kek at the fact you're wasting your life and time posting here
Oliver Gonzalez
He doesn't need to go up, with the current polls properly sampling independents and democrats puts him at a victory and adding turnout makes a landslide. He just has to stay where he is and he wins big, although he will be assassinated if he doesn't go down in the polls.
Joseph Green
>HURR HILLARY IS AHEAD IN THE POLLS
No fucking shit Sherlock, she's been ahead for the entire campaign, but the margin has narrowed substantially over time.
There are other factors which have already been described ad nauseum that suggest that Trump could win, and is possibly even likely to.
What's very definitely clear is it will take very little for Trump to overtake Hillary with the difference being as narrow as it is and he is one successful debate performance away from potentially having a lead.
Isaac Bailey
You honestly don't even seem like a ctr intern, I think they and Hillary campaign already realised it's over for hill. You're probably some retard rand supporter. Hillary will be utterly crushed by trumps media campaign. Most trump supporters don't hate brown ppl BTW we just hate illegal brown ppl
Daniel Richardson
Debate #1: Romney shifted to the center and came really prepared. Obama got btfo.
Debate 2 and 3: Obama learned from his mistake, go up to speed and put Romney in his place.
I agree with this. Cred Forums goes to shit every time there's an election. You come in and there's 10 threads about it and a: TRUMP GENERAL - SNIFF SNIFF EDITION REGISTER TO VOTE VOTE.US TEXT KEK TO 88082 to GET A BULL SENT TO YOUR DOOR. TRUMP TOTALLY WON THE DEBATE, LOOK AT THOSE POLLS WE RAIDED WITH SPAMBOTS.
Ryder Garcia
Right. Reduction of 2500>500 homicides during the years stop and frisk was policy, and an increase in violent crime since the policy was ended. Correlation != Causation, but that's a pretty strong indicator that something was working.
Owen Russell
Obama completely floundered the first debate, but was on much better form for the last two debates. The whole "binders full of women" meme came from the second debate in fact.
Parker Watson
>Predictions
Is the fucking key word genius, he PREDICTED certain patterns would emerge in the polling numbers and was demonstrated to be WRONG and when he was wrong he ADJUSTED.
He's shifting the fucking goalposts.
Drink bleach.
Jaxon Gray
I think you misunderstood my post or didn't read the dates of those tweets.
"Reality" is Trump wins the presidency.
Both your original post of nate's retarded shitter map and his older ones confirm he's out of touch and fallible. He used to think Nevada was going Democrat for example, and his update makes it a toss-up in slight favor of Trump, when the reality is Trump alone received 3 times as many votes in the primaries than Bernie and Hillary combined.
Nevada is hard red, California is a 50/50, and there are plenty of states that are red now that he still incorrectly thinks are blue.
/that's/ reality.
Reality is you're too retarded to realize what's been happening in Syria recently thanks to king nigger's administration and how it's fucking up relations with Russia, and you're too retarded to realize Hillary is just going to continue that line of action as a puppet Democrat.
Leo Stewart
You're an idiot. There simply won't be 11% more Democrats, like yourself, than Republicans voting, and that is how how over-sampled the leftists are in these polls. The leftist pollsters are being far more corrupt than ever before this election. The LA Times ones are the most trustworthy, and they have him gaining after the debate.
Nicholas Walker
>Hill shills are now so desperate that they have to take data about electorial votes from a single national poll, and one from PPP, which is literally paid for by liberal and Democratic clients
Meanwhile in the real world, Trump is now leading in Colorado, and in a recent poll, Hillary is only up 6 points in the deep blue state of Washington.
Oliver Gonzalez
>Dude, what happened in the last Romney v. Obama debate? HORSES AND BAYONETS
Justin Scott
ya it's the 22km of this race and now I should quit backing The God Emperor. Gee where would I be if it weren't for you corrupt faggots telling me what to do.....thanks shills.
t.kys
Christopher Bennett
Who'd win today actually puts NV at blue. Polls only puts it at just barely red to account for the fact that opinions don't swing that rapidly and will fall somewhere between two extremes. Still, NV is a toss up at the very best.
>California 50/50. Sure. Maybe lets declare DC a battleground while we're here.
the polling in the UK was wrong for both the 2015 GE and the EU referendum
Anthony Lewis
Trump will win every state cuck
Colton Jones
>President has zero control over how media portrays police. Not even close to a plan. Our current president has shown up on Tv everytime a black thug has been killed by someone in authority and blamed it on whites and guns. That practice can end.
>implying generals haven't proposed hundreds of plans before.. >implying he is jsut going to launch offensive after offensive until one works >implying that is an effective "plan" Generals have proposed effective battle plans. Then summarily ignored and fired when they go outspoken about being ignored.
>again, me and my people are better than everyone else, trust. Icahn is better than everyone else.
>ehhh its still kidna pointless but something does need to be done about border, Ill give trump points here
>Adding the unspoken line that somehow makes trickle down economics viable this one really irks me, we have a plethora of data and know the american economy is basically an oligarchy and the vast majority of wealth created by tax cuts and deregulation will go to the top 1%.
What makes you think the culture of big business has changed in the slightest?
Picrelated. Our business culture actually used to be much much different. The business culture Trump came up in and wants to restore. His plan isn't "trickle down economics". It's actually fairly Keynesian with a bit of demand side economics thrown in.
Carson Evans
It's almost like professional liberal shilling poll companies produce shill polls
Adrian Gonzalez
You're so full of shit, CTR. he was asked 16 questions while Hillary got 2; 6 foll-up questions while Hillary got none; all his scandals were covered while none of hers were mentioned; he lied about the state of the economy to favor you libtards. And she's far more dishonest than he is, and only he gets "corrected". Kill yourself.
Ryder Smith
>D-Dumpth has lost, g-get over it says nervuous man for the 2847349759320quintilionth time this year
Jackson King
Being fair, that's not comparing like for like.
As far as I know the GE polls didn't account for the massive gains in Scotland by the SDP
Isaac White
>nevada >blue Man you're even dumber than nate.
Benjamin Bennett
I hate white people so much, wish they could just disappear one day and never come back.
Liam Allen
>Try the majority of polls
Ok
Caleb Bailey
>in the real world, Trump is now leading in Colorado Gravis poll is now "the real world"?
Isaac Torres
>Reading newspaper articles from >washingtonpost >When you can read the actual data on Stop and Frisk from the official .org website and check frequency of crime in relation to stop-and-frisk.
Juan Ortiz
If trump is winning by 5% that means he is actually winning by 15%. If he is losing by 5% that means he is winning by 5%. He's going to BTFO Hillary in the election.
Austin Ramirez
>California is a 50/50 You're not just wrong, you're stupid.
Dominic Ross
Then who would pay for all your shit?
Jace Wilson
so flo guy here. everyone i talk to is voting trump except for illegals and visa indians. e.g. uber driver
Austin Edwards
yes, so polls can be wrong and the people who do them have an agenda
Aiden Barnes
>inb4 valid responses I refuse to refute
Carter Clark
>they don't agree with me, so they're wrong What .org are you talking about?
Noah Wood
It's not like their money would disappear with them.
Logan Allen
And Trump's only up 6 in the red state Texas. Trump's lead in Colorado just got raped anyways.
David Allen
Those damn liberals at fox, rassmussen, and breitbart.
Lel we had a higher primary turnout. Like that ever fucking mattered. It's like saying that Rmoney should win because more people voted in republican primaries in 2012. (Yes, democrats did have a primary in 2012). Romney got 10 million votes to Obama's 6 million.
Everyone who wasn't a retard knew Hillary was going to win the primary from the very start. She could sleep through the entire season and still win.
Julian Anderson
Hardly anyone remembers that
Parker Murphy
lets remember hes a nigger
Adam Clark
What happens after you run out of money after a week?
Bentley Garcia
And Emerson. And the CNN poll in a 4-way race.
Kayden Cox
This. The inb4s on OPs post are valid points.
OP can't take the heat.
Hudson Reyes
Everything meaningful the money represents would.
Low quality b8, get fucked.
Samuel Anderson
>none of that means she isn't capable and willing to run the country and make it a better place
In fact it does, the Felon, Mrs. Bill Clinton, will have to deal with all the politicians she has fucked with for the last 30 years, who all hate her.
She'll just continue gridlock.
She's flawed as a candidate and as a person, and in her ability to lead and get people to find consensus on her policies...she's never been able to do that.
She's just not a leader.
Levi Wood
REEEEEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE POLL NUMBERS WHO DO I LISTEN TO
That's fucking retarded. Their own charts show a correlation and their response is "nuh uh".
Easton Murphy
>California is a 50/50 What the fuck
Zachary Cooper
pretty sure he has all those qualities x1000 compared to hillary
Aiden Lewis
South Florida here. It's all Trump. Trump also is already winning the state in terms of actual votes if they want to get all scientific. He won all the early votes in this state so it's a lock.
>Fuck Miami
Julian Walker
>cause they get refuted in every other thread,
Austin Morales
Our voter form uses the honor system
Ryder Campbell
CANT WE JUST PUT THE POLLS IN MSPAINT AND DRAW TRUMP'S LINE HIGHER? THEN WE CAN LORD IT OVER ALL THE CTRKEKS, IT WORKED WITH THE ONLINE POLLS
Angel Scott
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Isaac Hall
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Connor Rodriguez
I remember that thread. The regular poll manipulation wasn't doing the trick, so instead they were going to make it seem like Trump was doing better than before, then drop him right after the debates.
Austin Adams
>And Emerson The poll from Sep. 9-13? Wew, lad. Getting desperate.
Jayden Clark
Why even having polling agencies when we have tardos on Cred Forums who can speak for entire geographical areas?
Caleb Brooks
It must be rough to be this stupid. I pity you, libtard.
Daniel Ward
Trump's ILLEGAL dealings with the Castro regime are going to cost him Florida
Elijah Cruz
First debate matters the most? Romney won the first debate.....
Adrian Baker
I would pay good money to see Trump win, the reactions of lefties after, and the Cred Forumsacks who put bets on during June/July to make mad money.
I think there would be actual livestreamed suicides.
Parker Flores
I love that pic
Thomas Jenkins
Trumptards are this delusional. Texas will turn blue before California comes close.
Since when does primary turn out matters. Now also ask yourself how many of those came out to vote AGAINST Trump.
Do it via congressional district rather than this population density map.
Why is Trump's line blue?
Jordan Mitchell
>(((d0H50Jew))) delete this
Lincoln Myers
For whom are these polls?
Do people decide for whom they're voting based on who leads in the polls? I hope not.
So the candidate I like [X] is trailing candidate Y in national polling, am I supposed to then switch my vote?
I just don't get why I should give a shit about polling before an election. It won't change my vote.
Cameron Williams
The NYpost didn't conduct the poll you stupid nigger. >"Hurr hurr Cred Forums is one person" How new are you? None of us actually thought Romney would win nor did we give a shit. Obama and Romney were two sides of the same coin. Nate Silver changes his predictions once every 3 hours.
Gavin Ward
texas is full of beaners
Easton Brown
There's nothing there that shows it had an impact on the crime rate decrease.
Josiah Gutierrez
>Everyone who wasn't a retard knew Hillary was going to win the primary from the very start compared to bernie? yes. compared to Trump? no. The primary turnout of republicans was far more than democrats, and Trump has gained the majority of the republican vote while blue states were divided practically evenly between Hillary and Bernie, one of which is no longer even in the race now.
You're not good at math.
Lucas Brown
Just print more.
Luis Green
>everything that doesn't agree with me has no credibility Yep, seen this episode already
Nicholas Brown
No they're fucking not.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about some minor shit like that - and it is minor.
Hillary has done so much illegal shit that she makes a mockery of the legal system of your country that she's walking the streets let alone running for office, and yet here we are and it hasn't even particularly depressed her poll numbers.
The public is very forgiving of past sins if you say the right stuff now.
Parker Morgan
He already won the state. First time in Florida history a Republican won the early vote. Polls are meaningless at least as far as Florida is concerned. It's solid red.
Landon Johnson
Why do people still post anecdotes like they mean something?
Dominic Martinez
>Why even having polling agencies That's a good question. It's because the 24-hr news cycle demands a constant drip-feed of bullshit to air out, and unrepresentative samples generalized 10000x and fit into pretty bar graphs can chew up dead time AND you can pick and choose which polls to report on to build a narrative.
Landon Phillips
>6969
Dominic Wilson
>Get started Obviously you'd go further and start checking the New York crime data, then studies on Stop-and-Frisk, then keep going to come to a conclusion. Even the articles list some data as mentioned.
Benjamin Harris
It wasn't an anecdote dipshit
See
Josiah Stewart
>only up by 100k >won
Henry Jones
Republicans have higher primary turnouts than democrats. Proves nothing.
Gavin Edwards
>Florida blue again
kek, he really fucked up the debates
Carter Miller
>there are more republican voters than democrat voters >it proves nothing >we're gonna pull another Obama
you literally have no idea about anything and I suggest you lurk on Cred Forums for a while to see what's going on in the world.
Camden Taylor
>None of us actually thought Romney would win nor did we give a shit Delicious revisionism
Levi Carter
>Thinking primary turnout of Democrats means anything when Dems always come out in the general and not for any other election
Jacob Morris
It's almost like there's voters that don't vote in primaries and vote in the general. Crazy right?
Ian Diaz
The crime rate was already dropping significantly by the time stop-and-frisk was implemented
Samuel Cox
>Doesn't realize almost every election is 51% winning over the 49%
Jordan Jones
You're not fooling me, satan.
Thomas Morris
>None of us actually thought Romney would win So Nate was right when he said people falsely recall who they voted for based on who won.
Kayden Price
The primary turnout in 2008 was reflected in the general election and is what made Obama win by a landslide.
Asher Evans
Care to point me to one ofthose refutations :^)
Colton King
Glad to see a fellow Democrst here.
I fucking hate Cred Forums.
Andrew Lopez
Gooby pls.
Kek. None of us here supported Romney in 2012. It was solely an Obama board. Same how none of us have supported Trump in 2016, in 2020.
Charles Russell
No. Only a few retards thought he would win. The rest of us knew Obama would win. Of course I voted for Romney. Still didn't think he would win.
You know there's a hint of confirmation bias in your quip.
You and the guy you're replying to are engaged in it.
Xavier Sullivan
I'm trying to find my Romney Landslide Collage, give me a minute.
Robert Bennett
I was bluepilled at the time and thought Obama started off his first term strong and was still pretty alright by the time of the 2012 debates but I could also tell how weak Romney was. He didn't stand a chance. The 2nd and 3rd debates really screwed him over, especially the 3rd one.
I also remember that I believed Obama was better than Hillary (and even after being redpilled I still think so, just that I now think both are shit). Maybe the only difference for this election between bluepilled me and redpilled me would be that I wouldn't actually want Trump to win this badly.
Camden Kelly
Oh here it is
John Ramirez
Leftist need their "we're OK" fix on the halfs now. The echo chamber must not be operating at peak capacity anymore. Diminishing returns knows no partisan ideology.
Jeremiah Brooks
Still, a low level court in NY struck it down as unconstitutional and no one appealed that decision on either side. So it stuck in the jurisdiction of the court.
If Trump would've said: "Yes, you're correct however no one appealed that decision and I doubt a higher court would affirm it being unconstitutional. The ruling remained unchallenged due to the major's position on it" then he'd be be better off rather than rambling about an anti-cop judge.
Problem is there's a way to argue things correctly and being a moron.
Been a while since I seen it. Thank you. I will now proceed to read it and lol.