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Was it a mistake?

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not naming the sauce on that ass is a mistake

Yes. Next question.

No

You can't keep 50% of the population subjugated and expect things to continue on just fine

The problem as it almost always is is with cucked white males who've bought into political correctness hook line and sinker allowing women to trample all over them in some vain hope of winning their affections

Well, considering most western women are sluts, and it's obvious they are sluts, and that behavior was looked down upon for most of human history, but now we can't criticize it, I'd say "yes" it was a mistake. What have women done with all their rights, and freedoms? Become sluts? Yeah, so progressive. You're really "FIGHTING THE SYSTEM" by doing that, you dumb cunts. Sure.

Thats Emily Grey for those wondering btw

Emily grey you degenerate.

Emily grey

Yes. Do we still need to ask this?

Cucked white males are mostly raised by single moms.

Misa Campo.

>Misa Campo

Good grief, that takes me back

Women have been sluts since the dawn of time.

This current generation of women is actually one of the least sexually promiscuous in one hundred years.

Yes
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I was talking to my grandmother the other day, and I almost burst into tears because hearing a female with feminine thoughts and feelings is so rare anymore.

They truly were a treasure. Now lost so that they can pretend to be happy while they're alone with 40k a year.

Fuck women's liberation. It ruined EVERYTHING.

>This current generation of women is actually one of the least sexually promiscuous in one hundred years.
You now realize your grandma is sluttier than you

Yes. Pic related is worth the reading.

Yes. And Emily Grey is one of the few whores I'd pay a premium for (if she shaved).

And guess who passed no fault divorce statutes and ruled them into common law?

Leftist white men

The current behavior of women is a symptom not the root cause

Politicians pandering for women's votes since men were fighting wars.

We fucked up

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short answer: yes
long answer: hell yes

Nah, just rescind universal suffrage, bring back land ownership+citizenship as requirement for vote, or literally anything else but what's on right now.

No not really

In fact it was politicians who were trying to prevent them from getting the vote because "can't be drafted shouldn't have a say in going to war"

So the women found a way around this in prohibition
"You won't give us the vote fine we'll take away your alcohol" and there were way too many moralfags and Bible-thumpers at that time for that to not gain any steam

Ahh yes the man who burned down a 1000 year old church and murdered his friend because he was a leftist

Real level-headed individual there

>hearing a female with feminine thoughts and feelings is so rare anymore.

Czech'd.
Trips of truth.

Plz someone tell me one way in which feminism has hurt me, a white male in his twenties. I legit cannot make sense of all the anti-feminist complaints I hear. You all sounds like butthurt virgins.

Miss dog eater

fucking normie reee

No, it accomplished exactly what it was intended to. Women are now going on massive "shopping sprees" to accomplish their delusional ideas of being as successful as men.
Women have spent so much money now just to force indoctrinate themselves with leftist propaganda in the universities.
Feminism accomplished exactly what it was intended to. It too an underclass, the women, and transferred them from the safety of the home to be left-voting, and left-dependent as surrogate girlfriends of the government.

Is your dick cut?

DEAD PEOPLE ARE BEING REGISTERED TO VOTE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. VIRGINIA, COLORADO, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, OHIO. THEY ARE PREPARING TO RIG THE VOTES IT IS HAPPENING NOW.

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Have you seen how many women are in porn? Did you see the OP pic? Are you aware of how many women are photographed or filmed nude on the internet?

The only reason the promiscuity rates have "declined" is because less males are seen as viable sex mates for these women. Also, people like me keep warning people about the dangers of slut culture, despite the backlash we receive. I have been in numerous conversations with women who feel absolutely defeated, they feel like western culture is forcing them to be a vile slut and they want a way out, but they can't. So even though it's taboo to criticize feminism and slut culture, a lot of women realize the dangers that come with it.

Regardless, women are still promiscuous now more than ever.

So that's it then? You're just a bitter virgin and you think you'd have a better chance of getting laid before feminism?

Yes.

>You can't 50% of the population subjugated
Even though they're predisposed to being subjugated.

Hell no. I have a beautiful intact dick. Are you saying it was feminists that took your foreskin?

YES

>yes and no...no because i can get random sex much easier these days and yes because getting married is financially too risky because of no fault divorce laws.

Feminist look at female circumcision as the worse things you could possibly do. (It's illegal in the 1st world) Yet never say anything about male circumcision. (100% legal)

Also how many shelters for men or boys do you know of?

When was the last time a man won child custody or got child support?

Why are we told don't hit women and not don't hit?

This here just sounds like a virgin that fantasizes about having an uneducated, naive and completely dependent wife that would never laugh at his small dick. Explain how leaving women no choice but to marry people like this isn't an existential nightmare.

how can i know?
i cant even know whether i know whether the world or not exist,

I'll try my best to answer that. Feminism is pretty much the government and leftist-controlled media taking the role of boyfriend and husband in womens' lives.
They're told they can do whatever they want, but they have to spend years in college regurgitating leftist propaganda. Then they're ushered into the workplace, where they're given a paycheck. If anyone tries to take that away, their big boyfriend comes in and puts the business in its place.
Then the women are told to meet their sexual needs however they see fit. If a guy isn't "working out" for her, she's encouraged to "dump" him.
Now you get to marry and try to raise kids with that. Good luck.

>You can't keep 50% of the population subjugated and expect things to continue on just fine
That literally worked for 99% of human history.

Are feminists responsible for any of this? Did shelters for men or boys exist before feminism? Is it women that give people license to hit men or is it other men? You can't blame people for not looking out for your own causes.

Women's right's should abolish the concept of "violence against women", otherwise they are misandrist or are admitting that they are weaker and deserve less rights.
Fucking hypocrites.

That's a bold claim rice-niggers, got any soy?

I take it you're the guy that I responded to above. You sound crazy, pal.

women are superior to men and should be given more rights actually

men are close minded, aggressive and stupid

literally mistake of evolution

>literally mistake of evolution
that's very edgy of you, but evolution in mammals kind of requires a male and a female. So...

>who will never laugh at his small dick
this is kinda base

short: yes

long: yyyyeeeeesssss

libarated women sit whole day at facebook shitposting but not Cred Forums style

>Close minded
Women can't move away from their ideas that they are "oppressed" while they oppress the opinions of men.
>Aggressive
Do you know what a feminist or a slut is?
>Stupid
See aggressive

WOMEN YES
GIRL POWER

I'm going to assume you're calling people "virgins" to highlight how, perhaps, you engage in promiscuous sex. There's a good reason for monogamy, and that's that we humans live longer than animals and so we moved on from reproducing like rabbits to lifelong partnerships that allow the most innovative of humans, that means men, to develop and improve technology.
>You sound crazy, pal.
I might as well stop here. You obviously have preconceived notions of what you want to believe. So instead of considering arguments in any depth, you're calling people names.
You're childish, just like the feminist sluts you're subtly bragging about fucking.

What's her name?

Absolutely.

I'm purely convinced we are living in the dying breathes of western civilization. Women are out of control and unbelievably slutty. Marriage is lost. Births over deaths are not even replacement level. Immigrants who will never assimilate are pouring in with no stop in sight. You can openly call for the death of the white race and you will not be charged for anything. Tons of young men never grow up getting lost forever in pointless hobbies. Educators are often liberal and female who indoctrinate children with ridiculous beliefs that would have been laughed at 30 yrs ago. Too many people on welfare. Minimum wage can't even sustain your existence.

I don't know if you're a virgin or not. I'm just trying to find a reason for your strange ramblings. I have nothing against monogamy and have been mostly monogamous throughout my adult life.

>tfw no programmer/EE gf

She's half-chink with no tits, why?

Yes.
Women are more emotional and vote more liberally. Liberals can't sustain a country for a long time.

Women were a mistake.
Why don't they like me senpai?

The only right a woman has to to hop right on my cock. Especially a woman like that

Plz explain this meme that feminism has caused women to be out of control. Men are out there commiting all the rapes, murders, armed robberies, and starting wars. Women have some fun and it's the end of Western civilization? Jesus, user.

without wars men are all useless, just look around

men should be gassed and women would form a perfect society with artificial wombs

>giving power to __ minority because something something morality
>act surprised hundreds of years later when those very same minorities now run the show and you're stuck in a state of apathy/self-flagellation because the nation your ancestors created for the Whyte man no longer exists in any way, shape or form

Lel white people are fucking retarded.

>inb4 chink
I may be full squint but at least I'm not kekked. You guys let women own politics, academia and media. Look at where it's got you.

It's not white heterosexual males who are asking for the 'refugees' to be imported into white countries.

>I don't know if you're a virgin or not.
Why is this such an issue for you? Virginity is a good thing.
As for the ramblings, I'm testing out a concept that "feminized" women consider the government-sponsored opinion, whatever it be at the time, more important than their husbands' opinions. So if the "new thing" is women divorcing their husbands and running free, will your marriage hold or will years of hard work and financial savings be ruined?
That's why this stuff matters and why it should matter to you. I just wish you go your guidance from your father rather than from strangers on Cred Forums or the (((universities)))

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>tfw no loving wife to make happy, healthy, smart, sucessful children with

You realize that men go to university too right? And that most university professors are men? How did feminists end up mind controlled by the government?

You need to go outside and talk to people.

I never said feminism but OK. It was injected into our society by jewish women to destroy the family unit. Women are unfairly favored in custody. Job hiring. Alimony. They believe in gender wage gap myth when the obvious explanation is they typically choose careers that do not pay as much as others especially high risk jobs. They overwhelmingly vote democratic party which is murdering traditional america. They can take birth control to have full control over child birth. They can get an abortion at any moment the father has no say in it. They can also lie about taking birth control to trick a man into impregnating her. Now the man is stuck having a kid he may have never wanted. Want me to continue?

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>You can't blame people for not looking out for your own causes.

Aye, but you can blame feminists for screeching like harpies when men talk about creating those things.

"Lol stupid MRAs can't handle the real world? Serves you right." she says as she's sipping her starbucks, proudly sponsored by the "patriarchy" or whateverthefuckitis they call it.

>unironically telling people to go outside on a fucking Mongolian cartoon message board

>"wowzers you sure sound crazy!"

>calling everyone a virgin

>small peepee meme

Fucking christ, I want newfags to leave already

GIRL POWER

OK, now this is starting to sound like typical religious conservatism. I'm sure you can find yourself a traditional woman of your preferred religion if you get out more. Have you tried okcupid?

actually you can and we've done it for thousands of years
women are naturally predisposed to subservience
and they're going to suffer for the damage they've dealt to society so far, by being put in even worse subjugation than ever before

I won't be surprised if 100 years from now women's rights activists will be fighting for things like
>metal collars with latches to open them instead of smithed to fit on their neck permanently
>more humane branding practices
>killing your slave only for egregious mistakes such as running away or not obeying
i just hope i can see these days

Do kikes have noses?

>Women have some fun
It's really not that easy. It's not. It may be easy to think that you can do whatever you want while you're in your twenties, but the societal structure that supports you will collapse if it's not maintained. It's your responsibility, as a man, to maintain that structure.
>You realize that men go to university too right?
>And that most university professors are men?
Yes I realize this.
>How did feminists end up mind controlled by the government?
Through a mass-media campaign designed to create a demand for a product. That product that is the idea that women can be as accomplished as men, which is a fantasy designed to rip women out of the home and turn them into a source of cheap labor.

[roastie intensifies]

Do you have a woman in your life who loves you and isn't a blood relative? If the answer is no, which it probably is, that's how feminism has wronged you and every other young White male who isn't Chad incarnate.

If only someone could give me a cogent reason why feminism was a mistake. That's the subject of this thread remember? The best explanation I can come up with is butthurt virgins because Occam's razor.

if you actually interacted with women you're not related to you wouldn't need to ask that

See

Feminism turns women into slave-tier wagecucks and cum dumpsters for all the men they are "sexually empowered" by.

YOU GO GIRL

Lawls that lost me at women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

So why would you ask for arguments when you're going to disregard them anyway?

Women shouldn't wrote, and why that is is in the picture.

okay then
>abortion
>demonization of masculinity
>rape being turned into some unspeakable crime and accused are assumed guilty
>divorce rape
>affirmative action in work and in school
>female-centric education system
>hillary
>50% divorce rate
>virgin women are extremely rare
>body positivity
>SJW's
>dissolution of the nuclear family
>hedonism
>declining marriage rate
>fatherless children
>can't even look at a little girl without being seen as a pedophile
>having to deal with female coworkers
>having to pretend women are competent
>most young women don't know how to cook or clean
>1/4 american women are antidepressants
>higher male suicide rate
>higher male depression rate

I think you get the picture you stupid shill

I'm sorry you guys can't find a girlfriend, but you're delusional if you think all men were in happy, healthy relationships before feminism.

>Was it a mistake
What do you mean by "it", Peasant?

Please don't rape anyone, user. Things aren't as bad as they seem right now.

you're delusional if you think divorce rate was nearly as high or that there were as nearly as many young people choosing not to get married or men that hated women

you can do the research yourself and see why it's an actual problem instead of closing your eyes, covering your ears and screaming
"lalalala virgins I can't hear you"

you'll probably just assume i'm lying but I have a fiance
a beautiful submissive christian woman who cleans, cooks, and gives sex on demand
and yes i've had sex before

kill yourself

Yes.

A man tried to open a men's shelter they ridiculed him till he committed suicide earl silverman

A much higher percentage were. You're just too ignorant to understand the matriarchal reproductive strategy of hypergamy.

oh wait you're a woman aren't you?

and here i was trying to use logic and appealing to the ideals of a male

not gonna try to argue with a female
literally not capable of understanding of logical discourse
see the pic i posted above plz (before the frog)

I believe there used to be more people in miserable relationships before no fault divorce. That's not a good thing. I'm glad it has worked out for you so far, but marriage is not for everyone.

>oh wait you're a woman aren't you?

I thought that was obvious from the first post.

>I'm sorry you guys can't find a girlfriend
I'm concerned about my daughters. I'm concerned about my sisters. I'm concerned about my mother.
A lot of women have been led to fuck their own lives over because they bought the feminism meme. This isn't about whether I can get laid or whether I can get a girlfriend. You're a complete delusional jackass for trying to boil it down to that. Women from my family are getting economically FUCKED because they bought into feminism. It affects me because I actually care about women.
So congratulations. You dicked a girl. She was delusional for allowing you to do that outside of marriage. You had a responsibility to guide her and help her do the right thing, but your dick was more important to you. Please never ever get near women again.

Yea fuck that marriage rate and birth rate. Also why don't feminist call for equal incarnation times? 63% higher that's an inequality that feminist need to handle don't you think?

>caring about tits when ass is the business.

Geez, I didn't realize that was you. I'm sorry you're in a bad place right now. Please seek help.

Now women are the largest voting base and men are subjugated.

Never post a picture more interesting than your topic

Explain how having no education or skills and being completely dependent on a man to provide for you is a sound financial plan.

Please provide the slightest shred of evidence that this is the case

>me, a white male in his twenties
lying on the internet again...

Definitely, they can't even take an order correctly at Starbucks (where I'm sitting right now.

Well I'm sure these immigrants they voted to let in will be sure to make sons with them.

>please explain x
>x gets explain
>lawls no

DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS SLAG

Gabriel (((Klein)))

yeah, that's exactly what feminist/liberal media will tell you
>everyone was miserable before feminism came along and liberated us from our inequity
>marriage is just a legal proceeding and you'll be happier if you can spring from man to man until you're old and need to settle
there was a reason we used marriage for thousands of years because it worked and made both men and women happy
then women decided they didn't want to be taken care of and made up the idiotic idea that they needed to vote

Sort of. They will always fuck up politics and vote on feels rather than reason. However, women will hold the opinions and vote in line with the beliefs of the men in their life.

You don't fix women, you fix men.

Men are the problem and when we uncuck ourselves women will follow REAL quick.

Men commit the vast majority of crimes, in particular violent crimes.

in the 50's when women CHOSE not to work, men, who didn't have to deal with women-oriented diversity quotas and 100% more workforce competition they were paid more than enough to raise a family, buy a house and car and have plenty of extra money to pay for leisure

The women shouldn't vote meme is ridiculous.

Black men, in particular. But blacks are merely victims of their circumstances, obviously.

the serious shit:

>almost 100% you gonna lose custody of your kids and pay alimony and child support if a divorce happen, which is not a rare thing.
>woman serve half of the sentences men do for the same crimes
>guilty until proven innocent
>single moms are state sponsored and live basically for free

the less bad stuff:

>employment quotas
>lowering physical standards for woman in the army and for firefighters, which can have serious consequences when engaging a situation which requires physical strength
>woman are more likely to get hired solely based on their gender for entry level jobs, in almost of all of them
>magazines and television push manhating narrative, and "the new woman"
>feminists say they strive for equality but on the expense of men, which raises the question what equality means.
>free votes for democrats

because women are physically weaker and can only overpower other women (who are usually protected by men)
I'm sure women would love to be more violent if they had the physical capability to expect sucess

Crime is crime if you get caught it should be the same sentence regardless what's between the persons legs. So why should a women get less time for selling drugs then a man?

to a woman

you might as well post tits and a timestamp at this point

stop.
it's a woman

its absolutely true.

Don't marry a woman that is completely dependent on you, have children with her, be a bad parent and expect not to pay alimony and child support. Marry a woman with a damn job and go on better vacations. The American dream is a lie. You've been cucked by capitalist pigs.

WEEEW SEXIST

the chart for men, for reference

American dream only works when feminism and atheism is eliminated
sorry you've been lied to

Women want bodily autonomy. So do you. Don't be a hypocrite. Wear a condom, etc.

You want you and your spouse to both be working 40+ hours a week? Why don't YOU earn enough to let her stay home and raise the kids?

my body, my choices = my baby,not yours.

>bodily autonomy
fetuses aren't part of your body
take a biology class
none of your organs have distinct human DNA

The utopia you're envisioning does not exist and has never existed.

It is more than just a mistake....

>missing the point this hard
>thinking a baby's body belongs to the mother

Isnt abortion already legal??????????


fuckin kek. must be nice being a woman

Where do fetuses live, user? Where do they make their little fetus homes?

You could also just lift and get a job to get a woman to love you.

>half-chink
The world needs more half-chinks like her then

if you don't men their parental right they gonna have artificial wombs which they bought with money and signed under their name.

you really want to reach that far or just give up already

This is getting ridiculous.
Like holy shit do you ever stop and consider the meaning of what you're saying? You want women to be working their asses off. You want women to be sexually "free." You want women to be legally able to kill their unborn children.
You're a fucking trainwreck. A waste. You're a low energy mess.
You're willing to kill your children to support delusional ideals.
You're fucked up, honestly.

>agree to allow someone to live inside your house
>kill them when they show up
>"b-but i was just protecting my property from this uninvited guest"
every time you post youre just further showing why women shouldnt be allowed to vote

Legislators are constantly trying to restrict access to abortions in the United States. These poll results are obviously a reaction to this.

Soon they'll push for post-birth abortion, where they have the right to drown their kid or snap its neck at any time before they reach the age of 3.

Jews may push it even further, define a kid as a "person" only after their bhar or bhat mitzvah.

Linus Pauling thought Vitamin C could cure cancer.

Smart people can do dumb things too.

That ass wasn't a mistake.

it's called the 1950's
it's the closest humanity has come to Utopia in the last 500 years
we held 1/3 of the world's economy
we created the most reliable technology and appliances, everyone wanted our products
we were looked to as the example of what a first world country's living standards should look like
men were considered head of the household
poverty was close to being gone
divorce was low
and 40% of americans when interviewed said they were "very happy" with their lives
more than 90% said they were "happy"
compare to the same poll conducted more recently with only 30% of americans felt they were just "happy"

Fetuses aren't people. Sorry for triggering your religious autism.

>Fetuses aren't people.
objectively wrong. healthy fetuses are closer to people than, say, severely autistic or brain damaged adults. not even religious.

STAY AWAY FROM MY CUMMIES! FEMINISM IS GOOD BECAUSE I CAN GET MY CUMMIES AND I DONT HAVE TO FACE THE CIONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS YOU BIGOTS!

Yes, actually.

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You don't get to cherry pick a short period of relative economic prosperity for certain segments of the population to support your inane worldview.

>bothered to use punctuation
>abbreviated the word 'please'
>'sounds' when you need 'sound'
If you're going to violate rule 3 by trolling, please actually use proper grammar.

spatial location does not make something a part of your body
and something being inside your body that has human DNA, seperate from yours means it has a right to life that you can't steal from it

your right to being comfortable does not supercede another human being's right to life
fetuses are human beings in case your cognitive dissonance was in effect with your usage of the word "fetus"
and human fetuses are scientifically demonstratable as human as well as seperate from you and not a part of your body
but nice try

Fetuses aren't people.

>certain segments of the population
>muh 1950's was racist meme
except 90%+ of americans were white
so the majority was very happy yes
and minorities were happy as well because they could get in on the economic prospoerity as long as they legally immigrated

Fuck off.

they're human beings and alive
please tell me how a living human being isn't a person, female user

>You don't get to cherry pick a short period of relative economic prosperity for certain segments of the population to support your inane worldview.
So we're limited to the vast periods of history where mankind has been struggling to survive, dying of simple diseases, and constantly at war? Do you realize how shitty the world is without the sweet technology you're using to shitpost?

Yes, most definitely yes

You're making no sense.

That was because the rest of the world was destroyed by WWII. It was in no way a sustainable situation. You can argue that the prosperity was mismanaged but you can't say that it was possible to sustain that lifestyle.

Of you're engaging with me because you think I'm a woman, i'm sorry to disappoint you.

Refute the arguments in the picture then, cunt :^)

If a person kills a pregnant women they will be charged with two murders. The women and the child. But if a fetus isn't a life the Ulysses shouldn't be charged with the second murder.

there's always rises and falls
but aside from economy, we did a few other things right
like majority being religious
women expected to submit to their husbands
men expected to be leaders
strict immigration
manufacturing within our borders

a few changes back to how things were would make our country drastically more prosperous
maybe not as good as it was but a lot better than we've done in a while

Person* not Ulysses I don't know why my phone did that

Human beings eat, breathe, move,
and communicate with others.
What part of "fetus" does this match?

define "people" without using some buzzzword or relying on a random stage of physical development

no, i know you're a woman
but your sad, emotion-driven liberal arguments are what are making me stay up until 3am to argue with you
not merely because you're a woman
you're just pretending not to be so you don't have to show tits and timestamp or gtfo

>why my phone did that
bcoz ur phone is a faggot,
like its owner

Move to africa. They have free abortions there. They just leave their kids in fields to die.
That's your ideal world.
>The women work.
>Free abortions.
>Fetuses aren't seen as people.
>No religious meanies telling you what to do
It's a perfect fit for you

That's rude.

I'm trying to improve your trolling (which violates Global Rule #3) and you're being an ass.

fetuses do literally all of those things, you mong

the qualities you mentioned are not defining factors of what makes a living organism part of the homo sapien species

also human beings, when they're in the fetal stage, do all of the things you mentioned.

Good job with taking hook, line, sinker and fishing pole instead of just revving up the report button.

>Burger so far gone he doesn't realize that besides technology everything is worse now than it was 100 years ago.

>Spain
>supporting race-mixing with people of asiatic descent, resulting in an entire off-shoot ethnicity
Where have I seen this before?

To Cred Forums I'm a degenerate not a faggot... it's because I have a black gf

Democracy was a mistake.

i bet her nipples are erect because she's horny not because she's cold

Chickens, in the fetal stage, become a delicious breakfast. Nobody calls a dish of eggs "chicken" though, because words actually mean something.

Humans exist without the need for significant medical equipment to keep them alive. Anything else is either a vegetable (Terri Schiavo) or a feuts. Humans also aren't directly parasitic like a fetus or blastocyst is.

If the thing isn't viable outside of the womb, it's not human.

Is Gabrielle Klein her real name? So she's half-jew and half-chink or what?

Right.

is it wrong I have this on my phone and a black girl sleeping in my bed?

The last part is wrong because nigger.

and you eat both chickens and eggs right and consider them both equally rightless?
so I'm not sure what kind of argument you think you're trying to make
try again

Sorry, user. One day you'll work up the courage to talk to women in person. I believe in you.

>Humans also aren't directly parasitic
>Implying

also you're just making up qualifying factors that have nothing to do with scientific consensus
being able to survive by oneself has nothing to do with humanity

>being so stupid that you dont know the difference between a haploid and a diploid cell
>being so stupid that you think the scientific term parasite applies to fetuses
>not even having an 8th grade education

i'm guessing you lost track but I'm the
>fiance with sex on demand
guy

and she likes my dominant demeanor
as most women do

Giving women the vote was the beginning of the end for the west

Words. Have. Meanings.

"Human" doesn't describe something directly parasitic, or non-viable outside of the womb. It describes something that can breathe air, consume water and food, create waste products from that, and otherwise be able to survive with the minimal, indirect parasitism of any healthy newborn.

It's funny how much Cred Forums's opinion on abortion changes when it's white babies they're talking about.

God bless all of you.

Suggesting yours has anything at all to do with science. Fucking laughable.

Most abortions are on blastocysts - literally less genetic material there than a housefly. But idiots like you wouldn't really understand that, and would still argue that "it's a human" because it's a fertilized fucking egg.

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why should it be wrong? diversity is a GOOD thing! it isn't wrong for america to have both you annd a nigger as citizens, it isn't wrong for you to contain both racist propeganda and african pussy.

As long as you aren't reproducing I don't care.

I've literally seen Tumblr posts trying to say that the right is 100% justified because of some court case.

>>being so stupid that you think the scientific term parasite applies to fetuses

Literally the definition of a parasite. Requiring a host to survive.

Get on my level.

>i bet
there is no wagering at Cred Forums, Grandpa

words have colloquial usage yes,
but when your aguing about rights, it helps to have accurate, well-defined terms and understanding
science provides that

parasites are well defined as are fetuses
and so far you've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of these well-defined terms
you can use words incorrectly all you want but it won't win you an argument, at least not here

The first part of this is absolute nonsensical bullshit. I could understand some arguments supporting the idea that voting should be based around the household, but she gives none of value. Whether a family gets one or two votes shouldn't bias shit, and male bachelors get votes regardless, while women simply don't.

The part about how women working makes it more difficult for everyone to afford to live the life they want is much more interesting and has much more compelling arguments. The effect this social norm has on housing prices is absolutely massive. Though this actually has the 'nice' side effect of making it more socially acceptable for multi generational family units to live together, which goes against the weird individualist rebellion that Americans otherwise encourage that only gives landlords a bigger slice of the pie. A society based on larger family units, but where not all partners were under pressure to work, you be more ideal.

i think sluts are disgusting, but the majority of sociaty looks disfavorably on virgins (both male and females) so yeah, sluts of both genders SHUOLD be proud.

>defining factors
Lrn2define fgt pls

Not at all, my opinion on black babies is that they should be biblically dashed on the rocks at all ages for at least 3 decades.

Abortion is ALWAYS a better option if you do not have the stability and means to provide without the government having to step in.

considering i didn't mention genetic material i dont see how that's relavent
unless you're implying that there's a certain amount of genetic material that constiutes humanity

also, unless germline cells don't have human DNA i think you're gonna have a hard time trying to say that abortion isn't killing humans

I feel lucky that I even managed to fuck 3 girls throughout highschool/college. Feels like Ill never fuck one again though now(23).

>i think sluts are disgusting
bcoz faggot

the problem lies in socialism than.

im too tired to decipher your autism, sorry

>words have colloquial usage yes,
>but when your aguing about rights, it helps to have accurate, well-defined terms and understanding
>science provides that


Cool, let's talk about rights.

Want to have a murder investigation for every naturally-caused abortion? Because that's where your idea leads.

>parasites are well defined as are fetuses

Well, either fetuses are human and parasites, or fetuses are NOT human and NOT parasites. You don't get to go colloquial one way and scientific another. Or do you think you're just special like that?

>thinking parasite applies to creatures of the same species who mutually benefit from each others existence
its like youre going out of your way to be wrong.

The arguments for this are completely stupid though. Is she seriously suggesting that a couple who have different political views wouldn't find it easier to anonymously vote separately, rather than either have the wife nag the husband to vote how she wants, or alternatively remain silent and not get a say? There are no downsides here, unless you value conformity for conformity's sake.

did you also read the part where i implied i also mean guys who sleep around?

>unless you're implying that there's a certain amount of genetic material that constiutes humanity

Enough to cause them to be able to exist outside the womb? Yep.

>im too tired
translation: "I'm too stupid"

>also, unless germline cells don't have human DNA i think you're gonna have a hard time trying to say that abortion isn't killing humans

So scratching my head is killing humans? What about removing tumors? At every resolution your argument fails.

>i also mean guys
therefore bisex

>an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.

Black people on welfare are parasites on society. What is your verdict there?

>>thinking parasite applies to creatures of the same species who mutually benefit from each others existence

google.com/search?q=parasite&oq=parasite&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.934761j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Get. On. My. Level.

On the South border, perhaps?

emily :3

They should never have had the right to influence politics by voting; so many problems could have been avoided.

>murder investigation for every abortion
now you're talking about ex post facto laws
which we don't do here
but if you're saying the death penatly should be applied to abortion doctors and the women who go through with it then yes, i agree

>fetuses are human and parasites
by the biological definition of a parasite a human cannot be a parasite in relation to another human
if you're going by the colloquial usage than there are many many humans who would be considered parasites, and by your logic don't have right to life
like wellfare recipients
and all children until they're allowed to get a job
and disabled veterans

I've been very careful to delineate indirect and direct parasitism. Niggers are indirect parasites. While they don't directly feed off our bodies, they indirectly do.

Niggers are subhuman. That's THE verdict.

>bisex
you missed my point.
guys who scored a lot are proud, so it stands to reason that girls who score a lot can also be proud.
capish?

>mutually benefit
jumped the shark there, Fonzie

>knows the names of pornstars
>calls others degenerate

Cred Forums in a nutshell

If women were in charge we would still be cavemen

she has the right to my dick in her ass

When was this post made? Seems like it was before the rise of welfare queens. I'd like to hear this guy's new thoughts on this.

i have been seeing a lot of posters BTFO of themselves lately

i think the pressure from the hillary shills are getting to the newcunts here

you must be pretending to know what you're talking about

idk if you realize this but human fetuses have indivdual human DNA seperate from their parents and any other human beings

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism
>In biology/ecology, parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.
>being an actual retard
>passing down your genetics isnt a benefit to an organism
>receiving love isnt a benefit to an organism
>satisfying your most basic primal desires isnt a benefit to an organism
>financial security into old age isnt beneficial to an organism

>guys who scored a lot (bisex)
>are proud
Gotcher point, Larry.

You have it wrong way about, Billy.
Without women we would still be
living in caves, wearing animal skins.

>now you're talking about ex post facto laws
>which we don't do here

No, I'm not. Learn to read, plebe.

>but if you're saying the death penatly should be >applied to abortion doctors and the women who >go through with it then yes, i agree

Cool, so women that lose their fetus to natural causes could be accused of abortions. /golfclap.

>by the biological definition of a parasite a human cannot be a parasite in relation to another human

Cool, and the biological definition of a fetus means it cannot be a human. Now "human" as a qualifier of the fetus is fine, but it's still JUST a fetus, and not a human.

>if you're going by the colloquial usage than >there are many many humans who would be >considered parasites, and by your logic don't >have right to life
>like wellfare recipients

Again, I've been very careful to delineate direct and indirect - yes, indirect parasites like niggers don't really have the right to life, in my opinion, but not in the same way a fucking fetus doesn't have the right to life.

>and all children until they're allowed to get a >job
>and disabled veterans

Learn to read, idiot. I've obviously argued this before, because I specifically said "directly parasitic". You must have been arguing against yourself in the mirror or something, because your points are garbage-tier.

women didn't invent or build anything noteworthy
wheels, fire, clothin were all invented by men
all the buildings you see around you were built by men
all technology was created by men
the only thing women have done is cleaned what we built

>you must be pretending to know what you're talking about

DNA. If human DNA is your litmus test, then I just ruined your argument.


>idk if you realize this but human fetuses have indivdual human DNA seperate from their parents and any other human beings

I'm pretty sure tumors and cancer take care of that, as they're not quite the same DNA as the host, now are they?

>love
>financial security
Lrn2biology fgt pls

He is right, you know?

>wants "parasites" to be killed legally
>claiming humans, under certain conditions, are parasites
So people on welfare are _____?

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism
>>In biology/ecology, parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.
>>being an actual retard

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_(disambiguation)

Being an actual retard.

you still have yet to define human without the use of buzzwords or arbitrary stages in physical development.
>failed to actually state how these two points arent valid
>ignores two other points
>guy who thinks fetuses cant communicate, eat, drink, ore breathe telling anyone to learn biology
kys

it's not about who invented or built
it's about why it was invented or built
Lrn2motive Billy

If women were another species and we procreated within the same gender, we would've hunted women to extinction a long time ago.

If a person kills a pregnant women they will be charged with two murders. The women and the child. But if a fetus isn't a life the person shouldn't be charged with the second murder.

I would like to get a reply if still on, I fixed my mistake from the first time I posted this

i see it's
don't understand english and make up facts day

you were talking about ex post facto laws

no part of the definition of a fetus makes it not a member of the human species

abortion has nothing to do with miscarriage

and if you're fine with admitting that abortion is murder than I have no problems with your reasoning
but if you think that a coma patient has the right to life but a fetus doesn't then you're just an idiot

>>wants "parasites" to be killed legally

DIRECT parasites that are not viable. Get on my level, retard.


>>claiming humans, under certain conditions, are parasites

Which are you even talking about, direct or indirect parasites?


>So people on welfare are _____?

Not enough information. Try again.

if this was any other board but Cred Forums id have figured you are pretending to be an idiot 2 posts ago, but here the % of idiots is quite high so last chance-

not all pride is gay.

madoka ref?

>you still have yet to define human without the use of buzzwords or arbitrary stages in physical development.

Arbitrary? Viability is not arbitrary at all. Do you even understand the definition of the word?

>to detriment of the host
see
>passing down your genetics isnt a benefit to an organism
>receiving love isnt a benefit to an organism
>satisfying your most basic primal desires isnt a benefit to an organism
>financial security into old age isnt beneficial to an organism

why is it the retards who think things like "fetuses cant eat" and "unfertilized eggs are the same as fetuses" are the only ones who argue that fetuses arent human? could it be that youre idiots and just dont realize it?

No kids but she is hinting that she would like some

>Viability is not arbitrary at all.
so people who are braindead or rely on machines to survive are suddenly not human?

>been debunked (without bringing in the debunks)
than don't mention it in the first place. stopped reading there.

except tumors have tumor, not human DNA
you thought you'd had me beat didn't you?

also individual human DNA is a recombination of their parents
fetuses have this
and nothing but humans have this
not viruses, not parasites, not cancer, not tumors

you lose

>these two points (love, financial security) arent valid
bcoz not biological, Linus Pauling
>ignores two other points
bcoz irrelevant, Sherlock
>thinks fetuses cant communicate, eat, drink, ore breathe
bcoz they don't, Doctor Frankenstein

>we would've hunted women
What do you mean by "we", Pantry-boi?

individual human DNA is a recombination of their parents' DNA*
nothing but humans have individual human DNA*

>you were talking about ex post facto laws

No, I wasn't.

>no part of the definition of a fetus makes it not a member of the human species

Ok, I'm sure a fetus inside of a cow is a human. And you have the balls to say,

>i see it's don't understand english and make up facts day

?

Wow.

>abortion has nothing to do with miscarriage


Are you an idiot? If you outlaw abortion, a woman is going to drink or smoke or do SOMETHING to cause it to die - or at least that's what you idiots will think when she miscarries.

Retard-tier

>and if you're fine with admitting that abortion is murder than I have no problems with your reasoning but if you think that a coma patient has the right to life but a fetus doesn't then you're just an idiot

1. A coma patient is not a direct parasite.

2. A coma patient may have insurance or money to pay for their forced-continued life.

3. You're seriously retarded for equating the two.

Maybe you're just a biological computer owned by the state.

>id have figured
Not a chance, illiterboi.

>her

>>to detriment of the host
>see

Have you seen what happens to a woman's body?

Also, it IS a detriment in resources, time, health, and mental health - some for at least 18 years. Often more.

>benefits dont count if theyre not directly related to your biological needs
>passing down your genes and satisfying basic human desires arent relevant to an organisms well being
>babies dont cry or need oxygen or sustenance before theyre born

ARGHEBEBRNDDN THHHICC. DBDNFJFJFNNFTHIGGGHTTTH BD THICH THICH THICCC THICCCCC THICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No

reproduction is a net gain for an organism. this is indisputable for anyone with even a basic grasp of biology.

GOYIM NO!

Your point (if you have one) is what?

>i was only pretending to be ratard
great. when will you stop acting retarded?

posting chico because

youtube.com/watch?v=ibdm_jE0hJk

>so people who are braindead or rely on machines to survive are suddenly not human?

There's a difference between needing machines to survive and needing something that hasn't been invented yet (an artificial womb). Also, there's a difference between needing a hospital room full of equipment, and a home device.

There's ALSO a difference between unwanted parasites inside a woman's body and an adult - or what USED to be an adult - that has the money and resources to pay for their continued existence, in the case of an entire hospital room of equipment.

>reproduction is a net gain for an organism
... if it is qualified as SUCCESSFUL reproduction, yes; otherwise, no.
Lrn2details fgt pls

it isn't that difficult with modern technology to determine whether a miscarriage was natural or an abortion
and since abortion would be punishable by death, if found guilty, there would be very very few (probably only the insane ones) women who would risk their lives just to kill their baby

and a coma patient cannot live without human beings directly providing them sustenance and living conditions
how is that possibly not a direct parasite, whatever you think that term means?

also you were trying to say that human fetuses aren't a part of the human species
you are factually wrong
every fetus is a part of their species
there is absolutely nothing in biology that can possibly dispute this

just stop trying, you highschool dropout

Eggs aren't even analogous to fetuses. For one thing the ones you buy aren't even fertilized, and besides the egg is the protective shell and source of nutrients for the baby chicken, not the chicken itself.

When will you stop acting illiterate?
(rhetorical question)
Answer: never.

>reproduction is a net gain for an organism. this is indisputable for anyone with even a basic grasp of biology.

We're not talking about a human hivemind, idiot. We're talking about an individual, and the 20-somethings now that don't have the means to provide for themselves will always be harmed by the advent of a child.

>it isn't that difficult with modern technology to determine whether a miscarriage was natural or an abortion


Great, we can spend the resources to check every one then.

Oh, and I don't believe you that it's just peas 'n carrots there.

>and since abortion would be punishable by death, if found guilty, there would be very very few (probably only the insane ones) women who would risk their lives just to kill their baby

You ever been poor enough that you didn't know where your next meal would come from, then get knocked up and forced to have and provide for a pregnancy and baby on pain of death?

Oh, and I'm sure you're just all warm fuzzies about all the unwanted children that will be beaten and abused because the parents didn't actually want them, but sick fucks like you force them to.

yup

>we can spend the resources
What do you mean by "we", poorfag?

>unwanted parasites inside a woman's body
It's actually really creepy that you refer to children that way. I get it that you're desperately trying to justify murder based on convenience, and that's also weird.
>Oh, and I'm sure you're just all warm fuzzies about all the unwanted children that will be beaten and abused because the parents didn't actually want them, but sick fucks like you force them to.
If you have a child, you take care of the child and do your best for them.

>Eggs aren't even analogous to fetuses. For one thing the ones you buy aren't even fertilized, and besides the egg is the protective shell and source of nutrients for the baby chicken, not the chicken itself.


My point was that words have meanings. Equating a fetus to a human is just nigger-style language mush-mouthing.

Words exist for a fucking reason, and you emo fucks want to change the language so that "table" includes the chair you sit in at it.

fetuses are not parasites by any scientific definition

>There's a difference between needing machines to survive and needing something that hasn't been invented yet (an artificial womb).
the only difference is the one youve made in your head.

>There's ALSO a difference between unwanted parasites inside a woman's body
not a parasite. see the last half of the thread where you got btfo

>an adult - or what USED to be an adult - that has the money and resources to pay for their continued existence, in the case of an entire hospital room of equipment.
is there? what happens if someone goes into a hospital room and pulls someone off life support without their permission or the permission of their legal guardian?

were talking about why fetuses are not parasites. even in the case of people who cant afford kids, adoption is an option that allows you to pass on your genes without the financial burden, all while avoiding murdering your child.

>What do you mean by "we", poorfag?

I mean the state, idiot. Unless you don't pay taxes? Try to keep up.

Mr. Italiano saves the day

I keep leaving this thread and being drawn back in. Holy shit, her ass is hypnotic

>Answer: never.
Thanks for answering my question, now ill answer yours:

I'm not illiterate nor am i acting like one. implying otherwise is perfectly expected of a retard tough.

>the only difference is the one youve made in your head.

So you're saying that there is LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE between needing technology that doesn't exist yet, needing a hospital room full of equipment, and needing a portable machine to survive?

Seriously, are you retarded?

Give an inch, they take a mile.

Women make decisions and vote based on emotion, not logic.

The problem with this is they seem to feel as if there is always some kind of endless oppression. Soon as you give them something they desire, this new ground becomes the old norm and they put themselves right back in the same spot again demanding even more. It's a perpetual wheel they have no qualms about exploiting this to their own advantage.

They have figured out that being permanently oppressed regardless the gains they make, keeps providing. So why stop? They will take and take until there is nothing left to take. And when they "feel" they have as much as any man does, they will begin the process to remove those equalities from men and reduce them to nothing.

yup

>human fetuses aren't humans
the moment I kill a pregnant woman and don't get charged with 2 murders you can come back and spout this bullshit.

>adoption is an option that allows you to pass on your genes without the financial burden,

No, of course, pass that on to the taxpayers, along with the almost guarantee that they'll need significant counseling, and are far less likely to ever become productive members of society.

Let's just pay for everyone to live because fuck darwinism, and we can afford literally limitless babies who won't have parents who love them, or jobs when they grow up.

>you don't pay taxes
Anyone who pays taxes is a serf,
and when you write stupid shit like
"we can spend the resources", it means
"your overlords can spend your resources".
Lrn2economics fgt pls

As opposed to what?
Taxpayers paying to KILL those genes?
fuck off, if you want to have legal abortion have it, but don't make it part of free healthcare.

>I'm not illiterate
>I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
Yes, you are.

>technology that doesn't exist yet
we dont need technology to do what the human body does naturally


but what im saying is that the legal and ethical differences in forcibly removing someone from life support, regardless of whether that life support is in a hospital, in your living room or in your uterus, are practically nothing after youve willingly allowed that person to begin using it.

>the guy who says fetuses are parasites suddenly decides he cares about other people and their psychological needs
youre right, kill everyone on welfare and those who dont pay into taxes. after all, theyre just non-human parasites, right?

>Taxpayers paying to KILL those inferior genes
Which part of that is bad?

>As opposed to what?
>Taxpayers paying to KILL those genes?
>fuck off, if you want to have legal abortion have >it, but don't make it part of free healthcare.

Are you fucking kidding? Do you have any thoughts about the future in your life, or do you just live for today?

Those little shitstain kids will have shitstain kids until everyone dies of starvation.

Give 'em free abortions, and STERILIZE THEM.

Read the subject, untermensch

>IM NOT A RETARD NOT LISTNING NOT LISTENING NAU NAU ILITIRATE!!!!!
Alright sensei tell me this: why in 'Answer:never.' you didn't cpitalize the 'never'?

If the genes are so inferior why not just outright kill the bearer of the inferior genes? That would be even cheaper in total.

Your argument is flawed and can be spun in any way because you decide to ignore morality enitrely.

>Anyone who pays taxes is a serf,
>and when you write stupid shit like
>"we can spend the resources", it means
>"your overlords can spend your resources".
>Lrn2economics fgt pls

I'm responding to someone asserting that the financial burden wont' be on a woman if she gives her little shit up for abortion. Try to keep up, retard.

>we dont need technology to do what the human body does naturally

We would if we took the thing out of the woman before VIABILITY.

Are you even trying to keep up, or are you just being deliberately obtuse in the most Ben Stiller kind of cringe-fuck way?

Lrn2pronoun, illiterboi

>Butthurt virgins

Who says this stuff anymore? Is this 2014?

>but what im saying is that the legal and ethical differences in forcibly removing someone from life support, regardless of whether that life support is in a hospital, in your living room or in your uterus, are practically nothing after youve willingly allowed that person to begin using it.


Bullshit from beginning to end. If you couldn't survive without me allowing you to live inside of me and I did for a while, then decided to kick you out, you have NO right to bitch, piss, moan, and neither does anyone else. MY body. That's why you can't force me to give up a kidney or lung so you can survive.

Don't talk about legal shit if you have no fucking clue.

>You could also just lift

Animal confirmed.

>If the genes are so inferior
What do you mean by "if", Aristotle?
How inferior is "so" inferior?
Lrn2frame-a-question, fgt pls

>We would if we took the thing out of the woman before VIABILITY.
>we would if we condemned the thing to death
thats my point, you mong. removing someone from life support is murder without their permission or in a situation where death is inevitable is murder.

fucking kekeroni

>the financial burden wont' be on a woman
wat

I'm literally just answering your question, it's your responsibility to define the inferiority since you brought it up first, Paco.

>if you truly care
I do not, so fuck off.

>the guy who doesnt understand basic biological processes suddenly thinks hes a lawyer too
you cant give someone your kidney and then demand it back, condemning that person to death.

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>literally
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

But I did use it correctly since I WAS answering your question.

>Wear a condom, etc.

Oh wow, putting all the blame on men again, eh?

If you don't want to get pregnant, take the pill.

yes, women are too sensitive to handle politics

>I WAS answering your question
No. You WERE asking a question.
Try to focus.

you need to kill yourself.

But in order to answer your question we have to estabilish how far you're willing to go to solve the problem, how else am I supposed to find it out if not asking you a question?

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>But, but, but, but, but, but, ...
fgt pls

In order to answer your question we have to estabilish how far you're willing to go to solve the problem, how else am I supposed to find it out if not asking you a question?

Are you happy now you massive insufferable raging cunt?

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