Who /noporn/ here? Please no delete mods, this is clearly mandatory for redpill status

>that pic

I have such a great gf that sometimes I'm afraid I'm dreaming or that meme magic is real and our universe somehow split off and I got lucky or something

here
no difference really tbqh, but at least i'm not a cuck watching another man having sex

Did you still jerk it? because test hits it's optimal level after about a week. That's when you should touch penis.

It sedates you, degrades willpower. I'm not doing research for you but it's there.

See above. Nofap is pretty retarded unless you overdo it or you are actually getting laid. Noporn is different.

God bless. I got a taste of being free of it, felt good.

I definitely did feel like a piece of shit. I can do that now.

W E W

That's the idea.

Good for you brah. Personally I'm fine with just using them for sex. Slaying puss semi regularly is good for the ego.

Gay. Good luck though.

I try to stop but it's hard.
At least I manage to cut it down to 2D only.

But I'm a kissless virgin, watching another man fucking a girl makes me feel super uncomfortable.

>Did you still jerk it?
Oh yea. The rate a which I did went down a little. I don't think test levels will be my problem, leg day sees to that.

>Slaying puss semi regularly is good for the ego
Yes it is. I don't know about you, but one night sleeps are the worst thing I experienced. Went on a streak once, everyday day after I would feel awesome for a few hours and like excrement the rest of the day. Decided to not do that anymore and get sex inside a relationship. Relationship ultimately went to shit. Now I fap, I can deal about how I feel about myself.

I've started no porn like 3 weeks ago. I have a gf and we fuck regularly, but i still masturbated to porn almost everyday, as sex felt good but i never got as aroused mentally as when i watched porn, many times i've felt barely any pleasure at all while fucking her. At first nothing changed, but when i reached the second week, sex started feeling amazing, i now have spontaneous erections, can get istantly hard and feel so much more prenetrating her tight pucci. When i go outside, it seems like flirting comes easier, as when i talk to a hottie it's like my sexual energy explodes, and i can't help but to flirt. Judging by how girl interact with me, i can tell they notice it, and i've received lustful vibes from them. Note tho' that i'm tall, fit and considered attractive, so i don't know how much it will improve your game if you are ugly as sin, but i surely feel more manly and confident around girls. I don't want to cuck my gf, but before i couldn't even get it hard naturally by seeing a girl naked irl, now every hot girl looks like the most delicious meal to ravage immediately, and i get aroused istantly. Given that i have a regular supply of sex atm, i don't plan on going back to porn anytime soon.

Sex without intimacy is pointless and damaging.

Is written erotica acceptable?

What about non-explicit drawings to help stimulate the imagination?

i've only ever watched amateur porn

never had any trouble with girls and still watch a good deal even though i have a gf

That's bullshit, personality is made up of habits. There are no strong, succesful men that jerk off everyday to BLACKED.com .

lmao, unless your cruising "leg day" has no fucking impact on your test levels

any natty difference in test is miniscule

I jerk it everyday, I don't like having sexual thoughts outside or at work.

That doesn't prevent me from going out and date girls. It actually makes me less desperate and more selective on who I choose. Doesn't prevent me from getting a bone when kissing a girl too...

Does it desensitise me? A bit I admit, need slightly more effort (from me and her) to Cum but then I'm not a slave to sex and the rest is more intense.

Fap away but make sure your mind is at the right place. Porn is not reality.

I think it is important to identify this is not Anti-masturbation or sex. It is specific to no PORN, as jacking off SOLEY to porn, which is often the case, it decimates a part of your mind.

Creativity and ambition is one of them I believe. When you are forced to use your imagination to get off you are using that part of your mind, and unfortunately many young men have 0 outlet of creativity these days.

In this one mans opinion it not only just improves you as a person skill-wise it genuinely improves your mood as well.

Fuck that no-fap shit though, those guys are just fetishists.

>lmao, unless your cruising "leg day" has no fucking impact on your test levels
Not leg day alone sven, but higher muscle leads to higher test. And the legs are the largest muscle group, the most bang for your buck in terms of increasing muscle percent of your body mass

Italians confimed for being able to read.

Keep abstaining and get laid/ a gf instead. Proud of you babe.

You should try again for sure. Especially if you're /fit/. Don't know about you son but lifting sure makes it easier to quit for me what with the increase of self worth and all.

Whatever floats your boat. Maybe the next relationship you have won't go to shit though.

Good to hear, continue on your way based wog.

Maybe in the long term, that's what settling down is for. Casual sex is miles better than porn and masturbation.

Nope. Stimulate your brain power, you don't need training wheels.

That doesn't mean it stops being degenerate.

Jerk to porn or no? Either way I think daily masturbation probably fucks with your hormone levels too much and you should let it rest more.

Top bloke. Feel free to shake my hand.

>lifting sure makes it easier to quit for me
Really? Its made it God Damn near impossible. After I cleaned up my diet and got a good routine down, my libido went through the roof

I know, I know, it;s very bad.

BUT I JUST CANT STOP, YOU ARE MAKING ME WANT TO GO AGAIN.

HOW DO I GET OUT

Bumping

NoPorn and LessFap are extremely practical, beneficial, and realistic goals that should be advocated by White Nationalists at every opportunity for the betterment of us as individuals and of our communities and society.

...

You bastard

Nothing better than rubbing oil over really tiny titties.

Agreed. Flat is best.

saus

Pornography makes you an alpha. It hardens your manly spirit against women's manipulative, deceitful ways. It's always easier to take the easy way out, and blame pornography for your problems, than it is to be a man, and accept responsibility for your decisions - and the consequences thereof. Millions of men who regularly masturbate to pornography lead healthy, successful lives. If you are unable to do so, the problem is not with the pornography.

who

Same here, but I use it as fuel for my journey. It gets easier to keep away from porn the longer you do it. Willpower is like a muscle, you know. And you might as well improve yourself on two fronts. Remember when you didn't workout? I assume you don't want to go back to that. You won't want to go back to porn either.

Rub penis to imagination and then watch movies, read books, lift weights, go for a walk, cook a healthy meal, call your family members, talk to your friends, write a story, draw something, learn an instrument, learn a language. Anything that's actually worth your time.

Porn is the biggest blue pill of today. You cuck yourself by masturbating to a screen filled with unlimited free porn in an fantasy that will never become real. No gf? That jizz you spew into your tissues is what otherwise energizes you to get one. Noone who has ever accomplished anything of worth in western civilization has ever done it by sitting home and fapping. Take the red pill!

Is having a couple dozen women sending you nudes on the reg porn?
I'm not proud but it's very easy to convince women online you are a stud.

what if i masturbate to my imagination, even if those fantasies are unrealistic?

>Remember when you didn't workout? I assume you don't want to go back to that. You won't want to go back to porn either.
You've inspired me, will try again.

>tfw fapped so much i can no longer cum inside a pussy

stop it guys, porn is a horrible addiction that will destroy your dick

>tfw been fapping so much lately skin is starting to rub off my dick

I just masturbate without porn.

Trying to reduce the amount I jack it but sometimes it's just nice to have a release.

>the aussie finds a way to shitpost, no matter the circumstances
>mfw

I did it for over a year before just to see if I could. It otherwise made absolutely no difference in my life beside having to wash sheets more regularly due to more common wet dreams

>sometimes it's just nice to have a release
I jerk it so I don't assault a sexy co-worker in a horny autistic rage

Does anyone have that video with two guys talking about how the Israelis used porn and the background video is twerking videos? Its been posted here before.

Thanks friend.

Convincing them you're someone else? Lame, dude. Make yourself a stud. Nudes are a vile practice perpetrated by insecure whores and easily pleased cucks.

Think about what you want to do to a woman that she would conceivably enjoy. No imagining giantesses or ponies or any shit like that.

We can make it brah. One day at a time until we're fucking gods.

That's pretty bad. You gotta stop the porn and cut back on the fap.

Good work burger-sama.

Did you think I meant nofap? If not you must be high test indeed and I congratulate you. Noporn though.

But you at least hit on her right? You're supposed to be a wild beast and shit, and channel that into other things.

youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0

Found it.

Anybody have tips for sublimation of sexual energy? I've begun a routine of not masturbating or having sex until the weekend as it saps my energy and motivation; it also seems to restart it, like I care about different things after getting over my lethargy. It's been fine this week and I know it just takes practice, but I have all this extra energy now, which is great, by my mind is so caught up on sex and sexual release that I can barely use it for anything else

I managed to quit porn, but still can't quit internet (or at least limit it to less than an hour a day).

my mind has most definitely been fucked because of porn. it isn't really possible to completely do noporn unless you stop browsing Cred Forums as well.
I do this as well. the thing is I imagine girls do porn to. I have a lot of sick porn taste like dp, atm, double vaginal/anal, facefucking, piss, rimming, etc. my favorite kind of porn though is definitely any hardcore nasty porn with white women fucked by niggers.
seen this video before. it's a good video. feels bad that I can't stop watching porn though. too addicted to it.

You can stop if you want to, you have just given up before you even started.

who /doesnt even like porn/ here?

I dont find watching strangers do a bad job of pretending to enjoy over the top sex arousing, coming up with my own in depth fantasies or reading someone elses is a lot more exciting since you can picture it any way you like

This works wonders, even in the case it was just placebo

My mind feels clearer, I feel more energetic and my boners are hard as diamonds

So you beans fap to dicks fucking?

I have tried nofap and noporn many times now. I always eventually keep coming back to porn and fapping because it feels too good not to. with porn I can see sex acts that are pretty much near impossible to impossible. most girls aren't going to allow a couple guys to literally pee inside their asshole for example. with porn I can see this and fap until I cum buckets.

>Hurr porn is ruining lives
Being a fat or scrawny piece of shit is what makes you a cuck, weak in mind and body.
Worried about your confidence?
Worried about your "manly spirit?"
Worried about your testosterone?
Worried about getting a girl, keeping her, and starting a familiy?

Fucking LIFT you lazy faggots.

Nofap isn't a redpill, it's the bandaid you put on being a fat or scrawny loser. Oh, you quit jerking off? Congratulations, now you're still weak but also horny enough to fuck any degenerate cunt that walks in front of you. Fix the mess of your life by fixing your mind and body, then it doesn't matter if you jerk off.

>No imagining giantesses or ponies or any shit like that.
well that sucks
imagining real women i want to fuck doesnt feel as good and it doesnt effect me well for the rest of the day
just makes me feel sluggish and lethargic
im a fucking degenerate and i dunno if i can change it

>Casual sex is miles better than porn and masturbation
Yeah, STDs and the potential to hand out your future paychecks in child support are amazing ways to set yourself up for a wonderful life. Nofap is self improvement for lazy tinfoilers. Fuck off kike.

Can confirm that no-porn no-fap lifestyle is for the true ubermensch. When you're surrounded by mostly porn addicted guys, you stand out like the shining sun you are amongst juvenile wrecks lost in a downward spiral of shame and lust. Women will literally flock to you, as there is truly something different, something with strenght and integrity about you, that they didn't even know they missed being immersed in the porn-brain culture. The real sweet part, however, is that after some months you'll actually kind of rise above the constant subliminal arousal that's currently running rampant in society, and detach yourself from it - so that you won't be blushing and shaking with desire every time an attractive female is around, but you can go into the erotic mode whenever you want to without being dragged into it agaist your will, if that makes sense.

It was weird, when I first got off porn, to see how much it actually changed the way I operate - for example walking around downtown was supremely difficult during the withdrawal period, but after that I felt like I'd broken free - I could mind my own businness and not be distracted by every insecure flirtatious teenage chick.

Force be with you, sweet user!

>But you at least hit on her right?
Nah, she's married and shit. Which I don't understand because she's a solid 10, and he is not. But whatevs

>i've only ever watched amateur porn
I bet it all happens to involve a motel room and a third party who always seems to have a certain characteristic, eh Sven?

Yeah it was no-fap

You realise you're the one who decides what you do, right? It's images on a screen. There are people who beat heroin.

I forgot about that. Your dick becomes an immovable object. Jerking it becomes better.

Are you serious? You do both obviously, lifting feels amazing. Again, this isn't nofap, it's LESS fap, NO porn.

You can change it, I did. Less and less degenerate shit, then none. Each time you look at porn it's filth becomes more normal until you aren't normal.

No one is telling you to stop masturbating altogether, boi. No one is telling you to fuck disease ridden whores without protection either. Sex is good for us, we're supposed to do it. Masturbation isn't terrible for you without porn but you're still cumming into toilet paper. Ideally of course you get a gf for regular sex and other beneficial things like cuddling.

Thank you my man.

Trying to reduce until 1 per week.

1-2 per week at the moment.

Feel the same tho.

Porn does nothing but give me ideas of things to do to my Nordic wife.

Porn doesn't make you a cuck.
The fact that you're a cuck makes you a cuck.

fucking disgusting face.

As a natty with 965 ng/dl who squats 4pl8 at 165lbs bodyweight - He's absolutely right.

Heavy compound lifting does wonders for your HPG axis, CNS and all around test production.

I'm 31 years old and I have the testosterone levels of a teenager going through full blown puberty.

Whenever I read a book with girls I want to fuck I fap to them.
Read a book about Nero for example and decided to fap to his mommy.

But other than that my tinnitus and life problems always come up and bother me to much to fap without porn.

doesn't your bf take care of you?

it would probably be a lot easier to do nofap and noporn if I wasn't such a kissless virgin. porn not only makes me feel great while I am fapping (because lets be honest who doesn't feel great while fapping) but it helps me cope with depression as well.

and I would never get with any of these gorgeous girls I see like this one for example. sex comes so easy for some where as for others like me I would have to try so hard that it becomes pointless. especially if I get some mediocre 5/10 30+ year old past her prime at best who doesn't even want to give me sex but does just to keep the relationship going since she is now desperate.

last time I lasted a full month.

then I relapsed for 3 weeks.

Last week it was my 27th birthday and I decided to stop on that very day so that it is easy to count from and use it as reference in the future.

It is working, my confidence in stopping forever is stronger.

13 years of porn will be hard to rewire my brain from, but I will be a better man.

>another porn thread up
>nigger mods haven't deleted it yet
reported
saged

>squats 4pl8 at 165lbs bodyweight
God Damn son

It still does damage to your brain. Why watch other people? That's what cucks do. Do something beneficial with your time. I'm sure your wife could be more thoroughly ravaged if she didn't have a husband who still has teenage habits.

You still touch willy. The point of noporn is to increase willpower and confidence, which will help get you laid. I'm ugly as a son of a bitch, and a manlet, I don't give a fuck any more.

Keep yourself strong, don't start thinking about slipping like a bitch boy.

go away you fucker. if anything this topic is extremely Cred Forums related. a certain government even used it as a weapon. people also continue to refuse to admit the damage porn causes to society.

I have lapsed here or there, but i started heading down the porn-free path four years ago. Porn reenforces the barriers that prevent you from having truly intimate relations with a woman, it weakens your orgasms over time, it either renders you a 30-second fuck or unable to cum. The way you look at women becomes warped - you wont notice how big of a difference porn has made until you've been cutting back or quitting it for a while. Also, When you masturbate, you should be focused on yourself, not an image. I don't think infrequent use of pornography is bad, but watching porn everyday is awful for you.

I'm convinced of the porn jew, breaking the habit is pretty difficult.

Congrats, bro.

(satanic trips)
I to am a ugly manlet. with awful acne as well. I really don't care about that stupid cuck meme bullshit. it's either porn or struggle so hard that I get even more depressed because the amount of work/effort I put in does not equal the amount of reward I should get for said effort.

until I start getting at least some sex I'll continue to happily fap to all the degenerate porn I want. while yes I do go into phases where I get depressed and want to stop the porn at least makes me feel good.

i exclusively jerk to sfm monster porn webms i find on /gif/. I keep a couple on my phone, but have enough clips stored on a flashdrive to last forever

Those fat legs. So hot.

You're all retarded normalfags.
There is literally nothing wrong with watching porn

I've been no porn for... fuck about a month now.

The cravings come in waves.

One tactic I've found really useful is physically slapping myself, hard, across the cheek if I do anything that starts the slippery slope to porn. IE, when I saw the tweet from trump about the former miss U doing anal, I googled it and clicked images.

I then immediately closed the browser and slapped myself.

This has been going on for a while now, but it's getting easier.

Funnily enough, if I do fantasise (mostly when I'm bed), it's about impregnating my wife instead of fucking traps.

Feels good man.

After years of masturbation, I now get some sort of weird panic attack or anxiety every time I masturbate (especially to certain kinds of porn for some weird reason). I don't know if it's physical or mental but I've basically been forced into nofap.

Been at it since 2011 bro.

It gets easier the longer you do it.

At first it was a huge struggle but now if i want to fap I have to spend hours breaking myself down before I finally do fap (when i'm horny and there are no other options since im a neet).

My advice to you is dont beat yourself up over any times you fap, just keep moving forward and redpilling yourself, keep building the connections in your brain of porn being bad.

And one thing you can do, well two really, is to fap without any porn at all, this helps to rewire your brain to not needing porn, which is better than the constant cycle of going on short streaks and then binging, and the second thing you can do is cut down your internet time in general.

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Also another tip is to make sure you remove as many sources of stress in your life as you can this will help a lot too, make sure to eat good food and stay full and eat healthy as well this will help you stay mentally strong, dont starve yourself

I've tried doing noporn so many times in the past 3 years. I always relapse. It's extremely hard.

In all honesty, I've lost interest to the real female human being. I'm only turned on by 2D art especially Vanilla tags. Real porn disgusts me.

Real women today are deluded by 3rd Wave Feminism. They're not feminine at all. They are extremely unpleasant. The millennial generation overall is like a result of successful sociological experiment conducted by the elite eugenicists.

I think I'll remain virgin for the rest of my life. I don't want to risk a divorce and pay for my children for 18 years that I would not see everyday.

Marriage is supposed to be a vow between a man and woman. Married couples are supposed to stay together no matter how hard life is. Human society has devolved thanks to Hollywood and music industry.

same, greatest ally
its a damn drug.

It makes you feel good temporarily, it's helping to ruin you for life in reality. Self improvement is it's own reward no matter who you are. You don't see this because you're so mired in your own self pity you've effectively become your own worst enemy.

That's pretty autistic but still great. I too fantasise most at night. My fantasies have become about intimacy and normal sex and I get rock hard like never before.

That's why it's worth doing, my ally.

What you've done is given into despair and dug your own grave. You're deluded and as disgusting to me as those people you hate.

>I've lost interest to the real female human being
>I'll remain virgin

lmfao you never tried a female human being how can you say you give up

Men will never reach the stars. Humans will extinct in this lonely blue planet.

says you.

what is this greatest ally shit. are we friends now.

she is definitely nice and thicc. I imagine myself fucking her or sometimes I'll imagine these girls I'm posting doing some hardcore porn. if that makes me a """""cuck""""" so be it. make no mistake about it though I would always prefer to have sex with these girls myself. would never be cuck in real life.
yeah I get it but I often wonder what would happen if I finally did get laid. ultimately my life would still suck. I know I am making a lot of excuses but I seriously am porn (and even worst) internet addicted.

Porn can be useful for desensitizing yourself to carnal urges. Otherwise you become enticed by even the slightest flash of skin

>Trump tweeted about former miss u doing anal

Wew lad, off to the Trump thread

you are extremely rude by posting these pics in a thread like this.

please don't.

Stop Cred Forums and instead study science. Working with a team of like minded individuals you could colonise mars.

It's not just about getting laid. It's about being a better person. Life is ultimately shit, we all know this. But right now you're the main reason it is so.

The thread was deleted but Turkeyguy:

hes on tumblr
hes not that cute anymore
sad times

I thought Cred Forums would be able to relate.

source please

never seen the video, maybe a webm once.

it's from a "I'll onl fap to pics phase"
(protip: they don't work, you always end up on videos, same thing with hentai)

ah okay, I'll dig around a bit. thanks

well alright then.
>It's not just about getting laid.

that is easy to say for people who have had it. look at /r9k/. tons of 20+ year olds that have never had sex. not even a single relationship.

the worst thing though is that women don't have to be this difficult. it's because they are so unwilling to be with anybody but the top men that the majority of the bottom men must suffer because of their actions.

>. it's because they are so unwilling to be with anybody but the top men that the majority of the bottom men must suffer because of their actions.

I think they are right.

men should always strive to be the best and this helps,
if any lazy piece of shit would get pussy the world would be destroyed in 10 years.

also something something genetics something something offspring

>stop wanking for about 2 weeks
>no noticeable changes
>haven't even been thinking about it
>been trying to stretch my foreskin for months cause (((phimosis)))
>can never do it right without a raging hard on
>only porn gets be diamonds

Even while I was whacking it twice a day I never noticed any downsides/benefits.

So I don't know, I think porn is degenerate as fuck but whatever.

also guys STOP BRINGING YOUR SMARTPHONE TO THE TOILET WITH YOU

this helps a ton

You make everything revolve around pussy, it's disgusting. Women aren't there to provide meaning for your existence you baby. Don't whine and instead become someone who doesn't repeat /r9k/ self defeatist drivel like it means something.

>implying there's any difference between whacking it to porn or having one night stands with women

Swapping a palm for a cock sleeve.

I would agree with you if women were reasonable. however if you don't meet their criteria in the looks department you have to essentially be an evil sociopathic richfag devoid of almost every emotion. chads can get sex easy because of their looks. a manlet has to literally move the heavens and earth by "trying for a better life" so much that it is beyond ridiculous. I mean seriously wtf? why should a guy who is so unfortunate have to put in that much effort and even then be considered """""lucky""""" if he even gets a 7/10 table scraps? it's fucking stupid and it is no surprise why so many guys have tuned out of reality and said fuck it all I'll just fap and play video games.

I mean seriously what is me getting 5 minutes of sex with a cutie going to fucking do to a girl if it's no strings attached? I'll even fuck off afterwards. but no stacies cannot have that. in fact nothing repulses a girl (any girl) more than a man with no experience.

as an attractive and rich guy who can get laid,
if I see a girl go with you she goes from 7-8/10 to 0/10 in a second, because she is selling her too short or just plain stupid.

like why would I go with a girl who sleeps with ugly short or loser people?
if she can't tell the difference it means I'm not worth much for her, as anyone can do!

so this in turns means we aren't fucking and thus neither my good genes nor her get a chance of passing off to offspring.
this is an evolutionary nightmare.

stay mad

again this is easy to say for a guy that has already had sex. hate to have to use that word but these privileged fucks have no idea how soul crushing being an old virgin with a shit life really is. they think it's so fucking easy to just change or get laid. because for THEM it is easy or at least they don't have to put in the extreme effort that those unfortunate do have to put in.
I really don't. it's just that this thread is about porn and getting pussy is obviously in my priority list. sometimes I just don't even think it would be worth it in the end. I work for years and finally cross the finish line only to realize I wasted so much time trying to get laid.

>a month and a half into noporn nofap
>depression is finally going away for the first time in a decade
>starting to remember why i opted for escapism in the first place

>stay mad

no instead I'll just not reply to your posts.

>starting to remember why i opted for escapism in the first place
what was it?

This.

Fun fact: no adult man gives a shit about you getting laid or not. This obsession over sex is feminine manchild r9k faggotry, just get over it.
Go do something worthwhile with your life.

people are overwhelmingly, irredeemably shit

>That jizz you spew into your tissues is what otherwise energizes you to get one
>Wasting time on the vaginal jew
Kek, that is like baby's first blue pill.

yea ~340 wilks breh

I don't even train for strength, I train for aesthetics tbH

But to stay on topic - porn is a cruel vice that has always perpetuated by the evil jew. The hypersexualization of young females is real. In my short three decades on this earth I've seen it first-hand. It destroys ambition in young men by subverting their biological impulses, which should be wanting to become the strongest and most successful mate they can be to attract the most female. Instead, they succumb to the instant-gratification because it is so accessible and wide-spread and pushed on them by the media.

Shit that would've been reserved to late night Girls Gone Wild commercials is now on daytime and prime-time television. The whole 'twerking' movement is a great example of this. Berlin was the city of Sin until the Nazi's cleansed it of porn and degeneracy.

All that being said - I am not holier than thou. I've watched my fair share of porn. Lets be fair, we all know how addictive and powerful it is. And like some of you, I have a GF and I still can't resist the temptation sometimes. I'd love to rub one out right now tbH

>tfw

>starting to remember why i opted for escapism in the first place

one moment I remember that made me so depressed is many years ago this really busted up looking girl liked me. she was fat and just gross looking. no more than a 4/10 at best. she somehow got my number though and I was forced to talk to once. I then purposefully pissed her off the next day so that she fuck off for good. she eventually ended up dating a nigger.

>people are overwhelmingly, irredeemably shit
I am fighting myself against this notion.

you know what helped? reading the book God's Debris
and realizing no-one is really rational, not even yourself

at 8 months

>Go do something worthwhile with your life.
such as what? nothing even brings me joy anymore. life fucking sucks. also men clearly do give some shit at least otherwise they wouldn't poke fun at the less fortunate. if I was working and somehow everyone knew this about me it's not going to be a good environment for me since people are fucking assholes. maybe not in your country but in america people definitely are when it comes to this stuff.

again you fuckers do not understand because you are normal. so you can't possibly comprehend how much it ruins a guys self esteem.

>at 8 months
damn dude can you fly yet

>on Cred Forums
>normal

pick one

What if I told you I was a virgin? I'm 22, never kissed a girl. I didn't say this before because I wanted plausibility for the thread but I'm sleeping soon anyway. I'm 5'7 and I have acne and I've never had a job. This is why I'm trying to get better, because if I don't I'll soon be a homeless person.

Are you so afraid of doing something difficult you'd rather wallow in your own filth all your life? Coming from a low position makes it all the more necessary to rise higher. As you keep getting better it gets easier to keep going, you slowly become someone who is worth getting out of bed for. I still think about suicide all the time. I'm not going to do it, because then they win. I'm gong to become terrifying to them.

>such as what? nothing even brings me joy anymore. life fucking sucks.

the same stuff can suck or look like the best shit depending on your chemical balance.

reality literally doesn't exist, only YOUR reality.

by becoming a FIT man with no vices, and a healthy diet and plenty of vitamin D, you will see the world better WITH NOTHING ELSE CHANGED

hell I almost smile going to work now

Make a strict distinction between reality and what you're seeing on the screen. No matter how hard you masturbate or concentrate, you'll never actually be in the scene in the porn you're using - you're still the loser bastard masturbating to the computer screen (an extraordinary sense of shame, I think, is very useful in keeping you away from the stuff).

I think the secret to permanent nofap is to seek the truth and follow the facts. Also, realise that actual reality is better and so much more satisfying than any fantasy you masturbate to - rather than be a useless, waste of space of a loser and masturbate to a computer screen, do something fantastic with yourself - find what you love doing and earn bucket loads of money and actually make it happen in real life, rather than be that pathetic loser with his porn. You'll not only be able to actually screw the models you look at in porn, you'll buy all the other things you've ever wanted - a luxurious home, a fantastic car, maybe be a Trump and apply your influence in making Western civilisation great.

>talks about manly spirit
>posts gay ass pic of some cuck wasting his time thinking of gfs

Having a gf is fucking stupid. It's a huge waste of time and potential. They call you and you have to talk to them 24/7 and it takes away all your personal development time. No time for exercise no time to have fun no time to read no time to sleep.

Having a gf is just enslaving yourself for some needy girl and it's definitely a cuck activity.

>men clearly do give some shit at least otherwise they wouldn't poke fun at the less fortunate.

The only males who gossip about other men's sexual lives are faggy beta cucks who are best avoided anyway.

Don't try to be a normie, be your own man. Make your own reality.
You've been consuming too much mainstream normie propaganda, that's why you feel miserable.
Go read philosophy or something.

Here are some further thoughts, in case they might help:

The benefits of nofap: having immense self-control and self-discipline and not being ruled by your primal urges and impulses. It'll improve your strength of will and character. The man of great self-control and self-discipline will always beat the guy who has his urges to satisfy. The man who allows his impulses, especially his sexual impulses, an important say in his life is easily manipulable, whereas the man of great self-control and discipline is free. Have you read J. D. Unwin's Sex and Culture? In a world where most people are just screwing themselves and behaving like wild, impulsive animals, the people of Cred Forums can have a real advantage in following nofap and being the calm, strong and grounded opponents against those who keep spreading this degeneracy.
I've always imagined army generals and the great leaders of history and today are men of extraordinary self-discipline, which makes sense since they usually have a great deal dependent on their ability to live a stable and well-ordered life, a life not so easily drawn to primal vices.

Also, permitting your impulses any influence, I think, can really draw you into women who'll use your need for sexual activity. Abstinence from sexual activity will give you that level-headedness you need in selecting mates and you'll naturally seek the kind of partner that'll fulfill you in an intellectual, virtuous and soulful way - you'll pay a great deal more attention to her personality and character, and therefore better at avoiding manipulative witches, rather than seeking to satisfy your lusts.

I also think that a man who has mastered himself is capable of mastering the world.

Perhaps you'll find this informative:
m.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/1uth8n/the_list_of_greats/

>realizing no-one is really rational, not even yourself

Human beings aren't innately rational, they become so with introspection and study of the world and experiences. Some people aren't rational until old age and some are rational in their early 20s depending on experience.

'God's Debris' sounds interesting, I'll have to give it a read. I love the term 'delusion generator'; so many people are restrained by negative, unhelpful thinking it's staggering.

I do think we, as humans, can overcome this state of mind though by reaching a state of objective perception. I believe this can only be achieved through observing oneself and observing the world we inhabit over a significant period of time. Always analyzing and observing, never taking a break.

Long live Western civilisation. Put all your energies into achieving greatness and surpassing your ancestors. Don't follow nigger-tier behaviour and waste your primal energies on such useless pursuits - the pinnacle of the West was founded upon self-control and self-discipline and abstinence. We need strong-willed, self-disciplined people with exceptionally grounded characters on the side of Western civilisation.

Find out what your interests are and the things you're good at and try to make lots of money with those interests and achieve immense success. And then use your newly acquired influence to help save Western civilisation. Maybe bring your fellow white sisters and brothers to your side and strengthen their wills and characters.
Direct all your primal instincts and energies into activities that’ll immortalise you.

Remember - they're fantasies. The reality is this: you're a loser masturbating to a computer screen or porn in some other form of media. Do your best to make this distinction every time. You could, instead, go out into the world and be wildly successful, and then perhaps have the power to make your 'quirks' come true with people who share them with you, instead of masturbating in front of a computer screen. The virtual world is no substitute for reality - you should instead try making your actual reality so satisfying and wonderful to live in that you'll have no need for such fantasies.

Fantasies are fantasies and will never be actual reality, no matter how strongly you apply your mental skills, unless you actually go out there and make something of yourself.

Seek the truth and the facts. Imagine how much better actual reality can be - instead of a life spent indulging in your fantasies, when in reality you're just pathetically masturbating in front of a computer screen.

i had to stop fapping because my balls hurt from masturbating for so long. i've had better dreams since i stopped, I regret nothing.

Does /noporn/ imply /nofap/? Because whenever I try going no fap my dick feels weird after 5-6 days. I start to feel like I have to piss often or like my dick is leaking. I don't know how to explain it, but when I fap it stops. Can I fap to something other than porn or what?

From another user:

Well known, now, is it?

Not by anyone who hasn't studied the life of Hitler so my original statement was incorrect

I'm a big time Hitler aficionado, not for the Stormfag reasons like killing Jews, but because of his will to power
He went from homeless man to arguably the most powerful man in the entire world in a very short amount of time

I also admire Stalin for possessing equally as much force of will as he also came from essentially nothing

Those men are a testament to the power of the individual and we live in a time where we are constantly told that the individual is powerless because the elites like it this way
They don't want people believing in themselves.

4 months. Feel like a beast, I get angry very easily.

People say that porn has no effect, but all you have to do is go on Cred Forums. Probably 90% of the people there started straight, but they go down the rabbit hole of porn, slowly on a slippery slope of becoming accustomed to degeneracy. Now most of them can't get off without watching trap porn, and eventually they will need something more degenerate, something they havent seen before. Porn is the work of the jude.

nope, we will never get to reality.
watch this video:
npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/09/06/492779594/what-if-evolution-bred-reality-out-of-us

IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND

Felt the same last time. Is it high test or is it just constant irritation that does it?

also this
youtube.com/watch?v=aAnlBW5INYg

Consider that Britain in her most glorious days hardly were so focused on sex as Britons are today. I especially have Enoch Powell in mind, since he's been the focus of my interests lately. Britain today has become so negrofied - that, in the mainstream, the most desirable traits in a man are the following: being laidback and not-so-serious (instead of being driven and ambitious in achieving success and prosperity), have a preference for 'having fun' (as opposed to intense focus on a goal, creation and production), direct a large portion of time and energy towards exercise and maintaining a certain physique (instead of reading tomes upon tomes on subjects that further our careers, language skills and our own enlightenment), applying intimidation, emotions, threat of physical violence and violence itself in order to resolve disputes, and so on (instead of resorting to calm, collected, reasoned, logical and fact-based negotiation and discussion). I suspect these conditions in our culture is why fucking niggers - despite being so insanely inclined towards committing crimes, unreliable partners, retarded, emotional, and having an obsession with playing the eternally entitled victim - can have any kind of dating market at all for them - and why whites are not doing as well as they should, seeing as whites are biologically predisposed to be more k-selected. And people always turn to the k-selected when shit hits the fan.

My friends - drop women - forget women - for now. Focus your mind on achieving glory and greatness. Understand that there's a great deal more to mind than females - there are men like Napoleon, Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great who were destined to write their own immortal presence in history. Enoch Powell himself never had a social life and devoted his time to devouring knowledge. He later fulfilled a military duty and really stormed through the ranks.

it's what it feels to be a man.

we just never experienced it.

it's like in the matrix "your legs hurt because you never used them"

the italian guy itt claims to be normal. now I don't believe everything he said of course but he did claim he was genetically gifted.
I am 28, 5'6 and never had a job. not trying to outdo you here but facts are facts. although yes I agree we have a lot in common in this regard.

I thought I mentioned it earlier but I am honestly even scared of women and sex at this point. it's hard for me to really put into words how I honestly feel in this regard. if I tried to explain a bit I might seem like a lunatic but honestly I think it's only natural that most would go crazy like this if they lived life as I have up to this point.

also my porn taste disturbs and depresses me sometimes. especially after a fap. I realize that if I inevitably get a gf it isn't like my porn taste will change. the only thing that makes me feel better is at least there are many on Cred Forums with far worse (as in morally offensive) porn taste then I have. even then I still feel weird sometimes fapping to white girls fucked by niggers.

I still have a GF though we fuck 3 times a week. I just got into a fight with a shitskin kek. I would have never picked a fight before /pol.

HIGH TEST
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Porno is fake as hell it fucking sucks.

I od still have a problem though when i see pics of women with nice butts, or tits. Even if they are dressed. I get horny and want to jerk it.

Been 2 days gonna make it to 3.

Honestly its like being addicted to pot. which is just sad. I wish I WAS FUCKING WORKING! SO I COULD SPEND MY MONEY AND GO OUT!!

But i got to wait untill the fucking 10th!!! untill i start my job as Forensic analyst.

FUCK!!!! I want to explore my beautiful STTATE! i want to go SHOOOTING!

I no longer live in a LIBERAL PUSSY FAGGOT tranny loving paradise

AKA WASHINGTON AND OREGON!

Pic related

AND WEBSITE related ITS NOT A MEME THAT PLACE NEEDS TO BE NUKED!!!

ihateseattle.com/

READ THIS SITE It not only applies for seattl.e ITS ALL OF WESTERN OREGON AND WASHINGTON

And the idiots let the faggots ruin that shit hole!!
and they believe in FAGGOT ass Cascadia memes.

PLEASE GET NUKED you arab loving tranny loving GOD HATING fucking faggotrs. GET a asteroid to crash and destroy that entire region.

>the italian guy itt claims to be normal. now I don't believe everything he said of course but he did claim he was genetically gifted.

I am not a normie, I still am on Cred Forums and watch (nowadays little) anime.

but I have a job, am /fit/ and can get laid.
I was an autist sperg in highschool and got mocked for it, but I am handsome so I managed to get girls regardless.

I think the moment you kick sexual activity out of your life, at the very least during the time you're gobbling up successes and achievements, you'll be able to commit the entirety of your mind, character and primal instincts to obtaining glory. And as you rise through the ranks in your career and through life, you'll find the right woman at the right time, and it'll certainly be the right woman since your faculty to choose won't be distorted by lust, and so you'll end up with a compatible personality and character - it'll all take care of itself.

Be alpha and assert your will upon the women. Be a Trump: don't give a fucking damn what society says and when they slander your name, and drag the rest of society kicking and screaming into decency, integrity, sophistication and civilisation.

In other words, be fucking alpha, like Trump - the guy just doesn't spare a thought to his critics and just marches on and fucking trolls them and leaves them utterly confused and desperate.
Men are just made to not give a fuck – the direction of society, culture, heritage and legacy runs according to what the men do – the next destination of a civilisation is lead by men. In our current times, the men are not only doing nothing, but they've allowed themselves to get stepped on all over. Be Trump. Be alpha.

youtube.com/watch?v=oZKUtW-aDHM

From 2:08 to 2:47: not too much empathy from the man, and that’s how it should be. Men have been competing with one another for hundreds of thousands of years for resources and women, so it’s only natural. I highly recommend films by Robert Mitchum, by the way, if you want to see what a rugged and gruff guy is like, and was produced in the days before the fucking toxic cultural marxism that we see today.

no I have had some bad real life experiences. I mentioned one actually right here I know it makes me sound like a dick but I was a lot younger then. at this point I'd probably be desperate for even that.

and hitler guy I am not going to read all that sorry. maybe if thread is archived and not deleted by mods.

I only make it a couple of days before I relapse.

Longest streak was 10 days.

I'm pretty sure this has everything to do with not finding new hobbies for myself, and/or forcing myself to go outside more.

I only watch POV porn with people with similar dick size and shape as mine as to not condition myself for cucking.

>Britain today has become so negrofied
Couldn't have said it better myself, but I think this applies to all of western civilization.

Use your imagination bro. Every once in a while I start to think about making the sex before bed time, then get it out of the way. Makes noporn easier. I think nofap is dumb, the balls need to release and keep manufacturing man juice now and then.

I feel you, but how is this an excuse and not a reason? There's nothing you can't come back from you fucking sperg, like I said before people have kicked fucking crystal meth and shit. Use your self disgust and fear and everything, use it to lift, to force yourself to speak to people for no real reason. I don't know, just do more than nothing. 28? Your parents fucking despise you. Be a human being before your life is over.

Thanks based bong. Skimmed some of these and will read soon.

You speak the truth.

Fuarrk, im starting my next dry perioud from today!

Gotta get those gainzzz CMON!!!

#HighTest
#OneDayYouMay

Indeed, indeed. Spread the word to help your fellow whitebros.
No problem, my good man. Spread the word.

Can somebody please give me a greentext list of why no-fap? Ive never understood it

Slippery slope indeed

Im almost certain that its paid shills that post trap and cuck threads on Cred Forums everyday. I feel like everytime i see them they have the same OP

Read my posts.

so it just makes you based?

I get what you mean but honestly? my internet addiction is far worst. in fact I really should get rid of that actually since it far out does my porn addiction. I can at least not fap for days if I try. but internet? I feel like I die a bit without it. I'm pretty much a sad meme at this point. I browse here way too much.

and imagination for me would just be me fantasizing about the same kind of porn I watch for the most part.

I dunno man, i dont really want a relationship or pursue women atm since its all so tiresome but the only thing ive noticed with the nofap thing is that it does just that, it makes you pursue women, lower your standards making anyone a viable option. But thats all lies you know after you had a good nut you dont even care to look at the woman that you would have wanted to pursue and waste energy and money on. Getting into a relationship in that clouded state of mind really isnt such a good idea since theres no telling when youll wake up and suddenly want out. You should migrate your thread to the hopeless hornbags of /r9k/.

>youtube.com/watch?v=AMmOAd2FVrE

My goys, listen to this shit. It's about the rise of sexual liberation and increase in pornography within Western civilisation brought in by (((them))).

Crazy redpills being dropped.

It's good motivation to not fap, just don't watch the video if you're super blue-balled.

It makes you as your ancestors were. It makes you in such a way as to not allow the white race die out due to the fucktard fear of hurting people's feelings and saying bad words.

No porn here
It's great

Porn really does mess up your mind
Stopped watching it have better self control, no faping, feel more motivated and focused.
All around just feel great.

Hitler giving sex advice. What a time to be alive

>I feel like I die a bit without it. I'm pretty much a sad meme at this point. I browse here way too much.
The internet isn't inherently bad because of the vast amount of resources it gives you access to.

Just go camping for a few days a month or something. It's insane how much better you feel out there in nature and how simple it is to just go drive an hour a way and go set up a tent. You'll feel stupid for not doing it more often.

I get anxiety driving.

>no jerking off when theres videos of anya olsen eating man ass

fucking plebs

I tried last month and made it to day 19

MY personal record desu. I blew it edging of course

Gonna try again for the full 30 days this Oct gonna keep the computer and phone locked down avoid Cred Forums and work out and eat better

Does that mean you can't and are physically unable to drive?

No it doesn't.

It's fine if you're anxious but you need to push through it if you want to get anywhere.

>I get anxiety driving.
you may in fact be a woman.

man up and drive you pussy.

fugg, I want to eat her ass so badly.

>Does that mean you can't

...yes?

No it doesn't. Stop making excuses dude.

Men always do shit that they don't want to do or are uncomfortable doing.

If you want to crawl out of the whole you dug yourself into, you need to start somewhere.

Go ride a bike or something if it's that big of a deal to drive.

that would take too long to get anywhere where I live. I also don't have one.

Is jerking off to pictures of women wrong?

Because porno does not turn me on. As much as looking at picture of a hot chick. and imagining what i would say to her and how i would try to get her to drink and sleep with her.

FUCK! i want to start working next week!!!! i have to go a whole nother week of BOREDOM@!

Well what do you do all day? Do you live behind the dumpster at McDonalds and brows Cred Forums on your phone?

you may want to fuck a hooker user.

your obession with cruel life not giving you the right card to get pussy is blinding you, once you fuck you may realize it's no big deal after all.

imho only women should have a definition of "virgin",
a virgin man is a pussified society notion.

I'm legitimately trying to help you out. Don't give me your life story, but what is your general living situation like?

>pic related in list of nofap greats

This is why I hate reddit. Your post was great, but you need to go back

You must admit, he was a ferocious boxer. World heavyweight champion at the age of 21.

neet life, browse Cred Forums all day because I lost interest in nearly everything else. watch porn a lot because why the hell not? it's basically a function for men. I mean it's not like I want to get horny sometimes. I just do.

I feel like life is pretty damn pointless and is being made to be too hard for a decent living. so I'm essentially in a negativity loop with no escape. sure I can finally get a job (maybe or at least I would hope if I tried) but at what cost? just work and be depressed instead of just do what I want and be depressed? at least with the later I can sometimes be happy.

He was 5 foot 10 fighting guys who were 6ft 7in, and winning very decisively against them. Not bad.

And, you know, there are some other great names on there.

>I mean it's not like I want to get horny sometimes. I just do.
That's fine and all, but what you really need to do is figure out something fun to do outside of porn. Basically your hobby has been jerking off instead of something tangible that you could really apply your intellect to and see your progress.

As for your other points, I agree with you and it sucks, but what else can you do right now? Not all jobs used to soul killing as they are now, and even if they were you at least could make a great living so it was well worth it. Times have changed and maybe we can go back, but we have to just accept that.

What do you do for income right now?

What about masturbating but not cumming? Not watching porn obviously. Is it good or bad?
It's addictive as fuck.

>implying he belongs in a list among some of the greatest intellectuals who were completely abstinent their entire lives

The guy threw his old lady down a flight of stairs. He's legitimately retarded. I'm not denying the man was a one of the greatest boxers alive, he just doesn't belong on that list. The guy probably fucked a new woman every night at some point in his life. Not exactly fitting the 'tremendous self-discipline army general' narrative ameribro was trying to portray with his posts

>The guy probably fucked a new woman every night at some point in his life.
sounds like a role model to me

Holy shit man I'm in the same boat

If I fap to porn now the resulting anxiety is day ruining. If I fap before bed I'll wake up at like 3 or 4 am sweating and having a mini panic attack. Truly awful shit.

I think it's feelings of revulsion and shame finally manifesting into these anxiety attacks.

It's for the best I suppose. I certainly don't fap to porn as much as I used to because of it.

Look, I never paid his appearance on the list very much attention anyway, so I don't know why you're being such a fucking leaf. I don't look to niggers for inspiration.

some girls have this fetish. tbqh thats basically cucking urself

>I'll wake up at like 3 or 4 am sweating and having a mini panic attack

Wew lad good luck on that, I would be terrified

>sounds like a role model to me

>If I fap before bed I'll wake up at like 3 or 4 am sweating and having a mini panic attack.
even without porn?

cucked by religion is my diagnosis.

there's no guilt or shame in fapping without porn

I noticed how bad porn is to me and my morality. The more porn you watch the more it lowers your standards and before you know it normal porn becomes boring and you start fapping to trannies, homos, furry hentai etc.
Luckily I noticed that before it was too late and stopped wanking exclusively to porn. Good way to do that is wank only after you watch some videos. I watch a few gifs on /gif/ to get me in the mood, then go to the bathroom and wank to my imagination. The more I did that the less I was actually looking at gifs, and often just fapped exclusively to my imagination.
It made me much more moral and away from degeneracy, made me last longer too, and I generally feel less like a failure.

Good luck on your path, and I hope my tactic works out for you too.

What did you mean by this

It's not cucking, it feels good, that's why I do it. Of course, I finish them sometimes. Cumming does not feel as good because I fap a lot

I tried doing so, but after four or so days I would constantly have a boner and become super agressive to the point of almost fighting. Confidence did go up a massive bit though and I for once felt a little bit Chad

dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2315126/Mike-Tyson-My-ex-girlfriend-cooked-ate-beloved-pigeons.html

Heh, just a meme. The guy is right though - Mike Tyson's a prick.

>after four or so days

it goes down after a couple weeks

you can fap btw

I have a lot of trouble talking with people in general unless I'm in an environment I feel comfortable in. like when I go to the gym I always feel comfortable there but it's not like I like having people come talk to me though. most of the time I would rather not talk to them.

besides this I like to be isolated. away from people as much as I possibly can.

I have a huge problem talking to girls period. even if it's something like say talking to the female cashier to pay for something. it's that bad. I hate talking to women period because women are fucking cunts and most of my experience with them has been highly a negative one. even if they aren't directly bitchy they may be passively bitchy or maybe they are too nice and I find it odd.

in school I always used to think women were always somehow fucking with my head even if they were nice. it's pretty weird and confusing to detail.

this is why I jerk it a lot to hardcore porn. I don't trust women at all. I feel they are almost evil deep down no matter who and what the circumstances. I just feel most women are purposefully like this.

my acne doesn't help. it makes things far worse than it should be. as for money I have no income atm. not even sure if I can get disability.

Porn is pretty damn addictive, and I have someone reasonably attractive that I can have sex with more or less whenever I want. It kills your passion for your partner, bros.

Everytime I do NoFap I always feel depressed at some specific number oh hours, and it lasts 3 or 4 hours too. Then it completely dissapears.
I mean, if I start nofapping at Monday, I will feel depressed during 3 or 4 hours on Thursday/Friday.

Anyone has the same problem?

>NoFap
MEME

do noporn

You dont have to be man, It really isnt that hard to go out and find a girl. If you can have, or hell, even PRETEND to have confidence, women will respond to that in the best way. Im not saying sex is the best thing you will ever come across, but it may take the weight off your chest and help you go forward.

I looked at porn like twenty times or so over the course of a year and a half and look at the shit I got for going on pictureswap. She had such a meltdown I almost got booted from my apartment

I've been noporn and yes camwhores for over a year.

Beats the hell out of watching other men fuck women like a beta cuck. Plus you can interact with the camgirls and befriend them so it's not that pathetic.

At this moment it's what I'm doing also. Nofap and Noporn for 3 days. It really is addictive, I had to delete a lot of shit to prevent me.

>I already talked to a few guys about the porn thing. 3 guys said it is WEIRD of you to still look at it when you're having sex frequently because they wouldn't do that.

Please remind me, why did we ever allow them to vote?

I understand all of that. I have tons of social anxiety myself, but I manage to just deal with it and go about my business.

Just go get a hobby you can do on your own. I suggest camping because it's something simple enough to do to get away from all the stressful shit of modern life and easy to have some freedom to dick around and it's very quiet. There's other shit you can do though, build some models, all kinds of shit. I could suggest things all day long, but try to find something you yourself find interesting.

As for no income, and you being on the internet I think it's safe to assume you're living with your parents. Not judging you because that's getting more and more common nowadays.

You can do plenty of stuff for income to give you some freedom in life. If you don't want to work at McDonald's or something find some stuff to resale on ebay. It's not going to make you rich or anything, but if you're living with your parents it's all the bills are taken care of so anything you get can go towards yourself. Ultimately you want to get out of that position and have your own independence and you need to find your own way. I'm just trying to give you some suggestions to help get your noodle turning so you can find your own solutions.

are you seriously this much of a bitch m8?

If you're not fucking someone else, it's not cheating. Look don't touch as they say. Tell your gf she's an insecure cunt looking for shit to make a big deal out of because she doesn't already have ENOUGH drama in her fucking life.

Jesus m8, my gf knows a masturbate all the time and we still fuck every single day and have been living together for like over 2 years now?

Trust me, that relationship isn't gonna end well if you keep rolling over.

im not fapping. but i have a problem. I do not get turned on by porno. but i get turned on by pictures of women

Just porn I think. I haven't tried to fap with out it desu

>To avoid the urge to masturbate stop going to porn sites,

What did the nog mean by this, Cred Forums?

Use memories of past experiences. Works with me

I don't know about how to treat that. I also had a fetish for pretty women. I would not fap, but just look at them. Decided to stop doing so too. And also with pictures of hot girls, so maybe you should. I consider these ones to be "soft porn".

Keep it going. After many more months, perhaps even a year, you'll be all fine. Just remember the freedom you experience from your urges. Remember also the people that are mired in the control they suffer from allowing their impulses to run their lives.

The psychological effects are far reaching and insepid. Don't try to down play porn, it is the fastest growing addictions in my area. I'm friends with a therapist, and she has had to start turning away clients bc her workload is too much. All addicted to porn. 60/40 male female.

>past experiences
he's probably kissless virgin tho

I think you guys are overthinking porn a little bit. Porn doesn't make you a cuck, destroy your manly spirit, etc. Too much porn watching/fapping just leaves you feeling drained through excessive release of dopamine, which can leave you feeling a bit sad and lethargic. However, occasional porn watching/fapping will actually improve your mood, is good for preventing testicular cancer, and will help prevent you from hopping in bed with the first roastie that looks your way. The key is moderation.

I just realized that nofap after your test peaks at seven days is blue pilled as shit. If you get no benefits from doing it why bother?

Noporn though is 100% redpilled.

This.

Though, I feel like it made me less apt to go after women. Having sex and masturbating feel the same to me desu, so that's a minus.

>and will help prevent you from hopping in bed with the first roastie that looks your way

go back to r9k

If that makes you feel better, sure wogboy

I would much rather sleep with a "roastie" and use a condom. Than sit in my fucking room all damn day and jerk off!!

Seriously i have waited 1 week to start my job and start makingh some good moeny again.

And i have to go ANOTHER week. of waiting. i feel like a fucking loser. but i only got enough $ to pay off my car. So i got no choice.

he gets panick attacks from fapping

it's safe to assume he never had sex.

I'm no porn. That damn stuff makes you less aggressive and waste your time.
>don't watch it lads.
>21 years old, I can't waste my life with that degenerate drug. I must succeed for my race, country, and God.

Porn pacifies people. Just look at the japanese men who are in their rooms all day masturbating, gaming, and fantasizing while watching anime.

Nah I've had a handful of sexual encounters.

There was only one that was actually hot/fap worthy

The rest is gross and shameful

I blame religion and indoctrination.

do you have a strict family?

>
>he gets panick attacks from fapping

wut

but what if you have degenerate fetishes? are you saying that's okay in moderation?

If you're worried about screen titties making you less of a man, then you were a faggot kuck bitch to begin with.

Stop being such a pussy.

I jerk off on the regular and still foam at the mouth with aggression when it's time to lift heavy or do my job.

>▶
no

If I'm reading this correctly, you are claiming you have to sit in your room all day jerking off because you have "no choice".

The problem is your way of thinking and nothing else. With your free time you can engage in a hobby, learn something new, do something to engage your mind. Don't get so focused on females as your only form of pleasure.

If you do other things I promise they will leave you feeling more fulfilled as a human being. Save the fapping for the weekend or every 3 days. It will feel a lot better.

I've been jacking off to porn since I was 13 or so. 28 now and probably been with 30 or more women. Some high quality ones and only one absolutely disgusting one.

Not fapping to porn won't help you get laid, stupid faggots.

yes. i agree. But i really. have no $ left and im 13 and live with my mom and dad.

I got bills to pay. And right now since i left my job at Microsoft to leave that tranny fucking liberal state. I was a taxi driver for lyft/uber. and i got another tech job. and im waiting for it to start. If i had the money. No fucking way i would be on Cred Forums.

I would go buy some ammo. and go shooting. i also would be in down town with some of the girls i met. I would go ride a boat on the river near my house. And i want to go rent a dirt bike or buy one so i can go use the trails around as i live in a "rural" area.

im just waiting. one more week! before i start work.

How degenerate? Are you at the point where you constantly think about doing them in real life?

>and im 13

LOL fuck. it is suppose to say im NOT 13. guess i typed to fast.

It's ok I was having a good laugh imagining some 13 year old uber driver pulling up to someone's house in their stolen parent's car.

I've only ever jerked off to pictures of girls, should I stop with that?

I also find that the more I jerk off, the hornier I get (contrary to what you guys say).

trap porn is the true redpill

Went for nowanks for about a month, got a girl's number at work, asked out like three girls irl and already went on a few dates. Helps that I work security and I'm motivated to not relax or go home until like 8pm but it really does make a difference.

The fucking second I jacked off after not being able to take it after 30 days though I fucking regressed. Nowanks gets you more than just 'realistic' perspective it gets you motivated to do shit you wouldn't do otherwise cause you're not wasting testosterone on porn.

The problem with a lot of people who try it is that they assume they'll instantly get laid, which won't happen. Even if you want some strange at a club or bar, if you've no practice you'll get jack shit. You have to bide your time and if you want a gf or w/e, that will take a long amount of time regardless: women like to play games and you have to make sure you're the one steering the ship.

I haven't fapped in two and a half weeks slightly longer for Porn. Feels good man.

I'd replied sooner but apparently these stupid idiots think I posted porn when I clearly didn't. so I'm done with this thread and shitty ass Cred Forums for now.

>Casual sex is miles better than porn and masturbation.
Who could be behind this thread?

Women aren't fucking cunts. Your perspective is poisoned and you're bitter from past experiences, and that's screwing with your head. Women are people too-- some are twats, and some are amazing. It's a full range. Stop making weak value judgments about 50% of the population because you got pushed around by female bullies and rejectors. Fuck them. But they ain't shit. There are so many women man, so many

>>because women are fucking cunts and most of my experience with them has been highly a negative one. even if they aren't directly bitchy they may be passively bitchy or maybe they are too nice and I find it odd

but not with this attitude.

You're weak, face it.

Change your ways and love women, and they will love you.

I don't watch porn much, I usually jack off alot to my imigatination or pictures of girls printed out. I tried nofap and managed a month last year but since then I've just fucked up. I'm just lonely desu, I struggle talking to the other sex, I'm a /r9k/ cuck. I went to join army and recruiter was a young girl (20s) and I came my pants in the interview, please help me Cred Forums.

No porn > no fap.

>he's literally addicted to nudity on a glowing screen
>using the le reddit meme to excuse your weakness

torrent the 77 laws of women and dating and listen to that shit on repeat.

study grappling every day

read the 48 laws of power over and over

>this much omega male delusion

also read lovingkindness by salzburg. probably an sjw but rooted in based undecaying eastern ideas of being a good person

noone can deny that the "numale" emerged once we gained the ability to see thousands of people naked and view any fetish at any time

All about that ojas, son. All about that jing, baby. FEED ME MORE MENSTRUAL BLOOD.

easy, just lift, have zero social anxiety, be charismatic (these two happen when you quit internet addiction and go outside), be well dressed, funny, etc.

very simple.

>48 laws of power
How to be a dissimulating faggot

>wah I have to work for things
>wah I'm addicted to instant gratification

((((they)))) have molded you into their perfect little weak, addicted cattle

Nice excuses.

I've been no porn for a year now.

First few months are the hardest to crack the seeking behavior.

For me after a few months something just clicked and I now see porn as silly. Almost like a nature documentary. I still appreciate still artistic photos when I see them on here, but the seeking behavior is gone.

>neet

you could lift, get social skills, and a job. because right now you're hurting the white race.

But when i lift I canny sleep and get horny as fuck

then join the ranks of us top men. I did it, it's easy.

>that face
Thickness doesn't work on Asians.

What about fapping to non sexual nudes of women?

Alright due don't give now

You shut your whore mouth

>study grappling every day
i know how to fight idiot, grappling is a stupid idea in a fight

is it possible to become asexual

friend wants to know

I fap to softcore and clothed all the time, is it really that different though?

Tried it, only made it in like a week.
Gonna try it again, who knows, it could work.

I didn't have sex till I was 27 and married. Wife was a virgin for sure, couldn't even fit my dick in the first time, broke her hymen, it was like a gunshot wound.

Anyways, sex itself was never that amazing to me. Masturbation was still better.Don't bother with pussy, find a good wife.

I've also been no fap no porn since I've been married which was 2 yrs ago.

But porn is better than sex

d/ic/k here.

What should I do if I need to look up pics of naked qts for anatomy drawing references?

I keep on relapsing because of this. But I need to practice everyday If I want to make it.

There's actually a very easy way to /nofap/ - binding negative attributes towards what attracts you.

For an example, look at this . Start imagining how awful her pussy would smell with all that sweat. Look at it. Imagine the sweaty smell of piss. Repeat for a while.

Then look at her ass. Imagine the smell of a fart. Imagine how bad her asshole would actually smell if she didn't wash it. Imagine the leftover shit in her colon.

Now back at her vagina. Imagine the balls of mucus and dead skin you could form by going through the sides of her pussy with your fingers. Sweaty mucus. Now imagine eating it. It's salty and has a strong taste of piss because she didn't wipe well enough.

Her tits are big and attractive, right? Wrong. After lifting them up, you can form a ball of relevant size by rolling the dead sweaty skin under her tits. They also happen to be right next to her armpits. Smell your armpit. Yeah, that's what you're gonna feel as well.

And so on. Keep repeating it for every picture that turns you on and you'll be an expert at it soon enough. I think that I'm actually turning myself into an asexual by doing this. The first thought that comes up after looking a woman is all the disgusting stuff I've attributed to those before it. The whole chain of the above just pops out uncontrollably within a second. I'm pretty sure that I'm immune to porn at this point, as I'm in my 2nd month of nofap and have only masturbated twice by forcing myself to do so, so I don't get cancer

All this does is turn me on. Theres few things hotter than the smell and feel of a sweaty woman after a nice hard fuck

Sweat isn't gross, it's pretty much laced with all the phermones and hormones that are supposed to turn you on.

...

Yes, true. I have a huge fetish for licking assholes and pussy, and love(d) their smell.

That's exactly the reason I'm doing it and so should you if you want to abstain from masturbation. It overrides whatever your brain finds as attractive with negative attributes that you forced yourself to think of.

I'm well deep into this shit and for an example, pretty much every time I look at an asshole of a female I imagine the smell of rotting children. My worst farts I've ever smelled, or those times when I barely managed to endure shitting out my own diarrhea. Or the time when I had to spend half of the toilet paper roll to actually wipe off the shit stuck in my asshair.
Worked flawlessly in curing my anal fetish. It's basically impossible to evoke a sexual response inside me after showing me a picture of an ass.

No he didn't, the obvious solution is to find a woman who is not shit but he decided that absolutely all women are shit (I would say that that is about 70% black and white thinking). Tired of it all, I am angry now, hopefully I don't have a seizure today thanks to you faggot.

Who

>one week

here ?

I try to beat the 2 week highscore.

No fuck that shit, porn is literally the only time I ever get to see naked women. Why would any non-normie cuck themselves by never getting to see tits and pussy ever again?

allright i will add my input:

>the one week thing

your serum testosterone peaks after a week which means that AFTER 1 week it starts to bind to the receptors and release a physiological reaction. testosteron in the serum is only as usefull as it can dock to the receptor, you fap --> receptors close

also evry addict here that backwards rationalises porn has felt the shame after a disgusting fap in his life.

EVRY SINGE ONE

but after a while and many different desensialasation processes
(porn, gore, loud music, brutal movies, yryl threads, circle jerk of hate towards: women, other betacucks, jews, blacks, feminism etc.)

have taken place so all you left with is a hollow and pathtic shell of masculinity.
a shadow of your former self.

also member when it felt great waking up.

not viewing porn definitely makes you a cuck. Unless you're somehow releasing your sexual tension another way such as with a female, but let's be honest. Women are complete shit these days, so why even take the risk to try and mate with them.

As a 23 year old male virgin who has never had a girlfriend and every date I've been on has never resulted in a second date, I've come to deeply desire the attention and affection of a female to find self worth in myself. Which I realize is detrimental to my self-esteem and not healthy.
I spend most of my day when I'm not already occupied with school, work or Trump, daydreaming about my waifu and how happy we are together, the times we say "I love you" to each other, the dates we go on, the situations we find ourselves in, the sex we have. It's all a never ending movie playing out in my head, and a part of me is disguised by how pathetic it all is. But I can't stop myself, because it at least makes me happy and my day more tolerable.
Escapism is a drug of the mind when you have little going on in your life and seek value from those that matter to you whether they're real or fictional.
>tfw you wish you were a normie

i guess it can be learned

look about how much normies love sports, there are some people who grow up not interested in sports and find it strange when they observe normies. they feel no need to have a passion for sports because they were not taught as children that sports are important in life. if an normie decides to no longer follow sports he might loose interest after some time if he finds other things to spend his time on

tell us moar
>how was the first time like
>how often to you have it
>was it worth the wait

You can still masturbate whitout porn dummy

What are you, 12?

Well i stopped two months ago, was supposed to stop porn AND Cred Forums, but only managed to stop one. Effects constated : i have nearly none random raging boner and fap less and less. Also i gain up all the time looking for porn to do something else

womyns are usless as much as porn. why ppl are obsessed with sex anyway ?

It's a widely misinterpreted study. What happens after 7 days? Your androgen receptors become more sensitive, meaning they are more receptive to testosterone. There will be less testosterone in the bloodstream, but more testosterone USED by your body.

I don't get this either

What's with all those people constantly crying how they don't have a gf. Literally who cares lmao

Self control, all things are degenerate in excess. Stop blaming what is consumed and start blaming the person that consumes too much.

Tried nofap + noporn which had some pretty unforeseen consequences.

Day 0
>hey I lasted

Day 3
>Hey, I think I'm doing pretty well..

Day 7
>A whole week, but why do my balls hurt...

Day 9
>Did I just cum in my pants!?

Day 14
>Okay, now I'm pissing out cum...

Day 18
>Lots of pain, lots of jizz...

Day 21
>FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

I might try a clean slate with only noporn but it still traumatized me to this day

im on day18 and i feel really tired in general, havent really gotten horny past the first week

I felt the exact opposite, I felt really anxious and excitable and working out didn't really burn off the steam.

Thing is, the state of men is so bad that it's not hard to become a top male. Work out and develop your body, get a stable job, and have some social circle/friends

You'll eventually have a girl just fall into your lap if you go out enough. They are 50% of the population, just going out and talking to them will eventually net you a girl

You'll see one huge commonality with 95% of the /r9k/ posters: Missed opportunities

They'll talk about how in middle/high/college/university there was a girl that was clearly interested but they either failed to persue or they didn't realise until later.

Without realising that if they just went out and were around females more, they would keep getting those chances

It wasn't until I made the commitment to never stay at home and to keep off the internet that things started happening. Just go out for a 1 hour walk in a crowded area, and chances are you'll end up interacting with a person (male or female).

Referring to the above point of just being slightly above average getting girls, if you want above average girls you need to be way above average. But this is way easier to do once you're "normal"

/r9k/ sits and thinks about how they'll never go from the bottom of the social ladder to the top, so they never climb the first rung. You can't hit the top unless you at least start climbing

> it's because they are so unwilling to be with anybody but the top men that the majority of the bottom men must suffer because of their actions.

Can't blame them for a second. You don't want bottom-tier girls, its insane to think girls should settle for bottom tier guys.

Just made this for anyone who wants it.

> a manlet has to literally move the heavens and earth by "trying for a better life" so much that it is beyond ridiculous.

Explain the literally thousands of manlets I have seen in bars, clubs, and universities with cute girls

I'm tall, I recognise that this bumps me up a few points and I end up trying way less to get female attention. But I have at least two friends who dwarf my lay count with REALLY high quality girls, and they are short.

One of them even looks like a fucking grade 10, but I'll be damned if he isn't talking to cute girls at every party

Womens are needy and greedy for attetion. They are not self-aware of their own acts.(basically they are niggers).And just like googles they need someone to carry them.

Mans form other hand don't have such a need. (but they are brainwashed)

Don't forget jews are in charge. So that's why niggers and womynz are always the victim , always on pedestal. Look around the massmedia.

>YES GOY - if you don't have wife/gf you will be veryyy lonely.Now go watch porn OR get a some whore that is literally usless.

>again this is easy to say for a guy that has already had sex. hate to have to use that word but these privileged fucks have no idea how soul crushing being an old virgin with a shit life really is. they think it's so fucking easy to just change or get laid. because for THEM it is easy or at least they don't have to put in the extreme effort that those unfortunate do have to put in.

That's because they're pissed off that they can't pull sick BMX tricks when they never learned to ride a bike

The first lay is a fucking mountain to move, every consecutive lay after that is easier and easier.

They are exactly analogous to someone losing their balance the first 5 times they try to ride a bike, so they never bothered learning and got mad at the bike.

Sure, some guys get training wheels. But thats life

Ask yourself, why do women don't want to have a second date with me? Unless you're an autist, you'll realize the errors you are committing. Fix them. Work on yourself and fix yourself.

Think about this, why would any woman be interested in you? What do you offer? What CAN you offer?

Porn porn doesn't excite me anymore. This amateur type of porn is lava hot though.

pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1227476778