Why haven't you accepted the ultimate red pill: Communism? Specifically, Stalinism

I'm not a fan of China's style of communism, but I like Stalin's whole cult-of-personality deal. Stalin brought Russia into the new century, and gave the Russian people someone to follow into glory. Trump will give the United States that sort of change. I can't wait to see America turn into the bright, futuristic kingdom it was meant to be. Welcome to the Age Triumphant.

capitalism destroys incentive to work hard, incentivizes jewish swindling (finance). under capitalism the people who work hard are ruled over by the jewish swindlers.

I eagerly await the inevitable "well the myriad examples of communism turning a country into a shithole are because those countries weren't actually communist and furthermore..." response.

Or as I like to call it, the "No True Communist" fallacy.

The fact that Venezuelans are lining up in droves to get into fucking Colombia because somehow that drug war ravished country manages to have their shit together better than the glorious people's republic of Venezuela should tell you everything you need to know about communism.

Not an argument.

But with communism you destroy the whole country.

>hey that guy who says he's a vegan but eats meat isn't a vegan
>LE NO TROO SGOTSMAN XDDD

>Why haven't you accepted the ultimate red pill: Communism

Venezuela: communism, people starving to death, big oil reserves but still shit economy, high murder rates

Chile: neoliberalism, good economy for a south american country, no oil reserves, one of the safest countries in south america

Chile is centrist at this point.

Communism is a meme. There is a reason the USA and Europe leads the world is innovation and quality of life. Communism invariably stagnates the economy and technological advancement.

Not economically.

None of these are arguments either

>mfw an american was communist near me

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Just gonna leave this here brothers

Wow a slide thread about blue pill life style of communist living. How fucking degenerate fuck off CTR. #squash

Except Stalin fought the International part of Communism. Kind of reversing Communism.
-The ‘fatherland’ or what was called again especially during World War II, ‘Holy Mother Russia’, replaced international class war and world revolution.
-Hierarchy in the military and elsewhere was re-established openly rather than under a hypocritical façade of soviet democracy and equality.
-A new technocratic elite was established, analogous to the principles of German ‘National Bolshevism’.
-The traditional family, the destruction of which is one of the primary aims of Marxism generally[30] and Trotskyism specifically,[31] was re-established.
-Abortion, the liberalisation of which was heralded as a great achievement in woman’s emancipation in the early days of Bolshevik Russia, was reversed.
-A Czarist type discipline was reintroduced to the schools; Leon Sedov condemned this as shackling the free spirit of youth, as if there were any such freedom under the Leninist regime.
-‘Respect for elders’ was re-established, again anathema to the Marxists who seek the destruction of family life through the alienation of children from parents.

Stalin was right wing. That is why he is considered unworthy of Lenin's legacy. Now fuck off to your caves, you fucking animals.

>Communism

Name ONE time it did not end in genocide.

Cool rebuttal.

Okay, so those "communist" countries weren't actually communist. Great, the ideology is so perfect that it's a fucking utopia and unimplementable by dirty humans. Enjoy the corner you painted yourself into.

It's basically just invoking Plato's perfect forms to retreat into an idealogical fortress which is lazy as fuck.

>Godlessness is a good thing
>Shortages are caused by ebil capitalist
Communism is a fucking joke. You give the state your power as a free individual to mortal buecratic bourgeoisie fucks for fucking bread. Your desire to elimate a class system only creates another that is on par to feudalism in terms of political distribution.

Not to mention if you don't praise kek you are not red pilled. You are just a faggot.

He said specifically Stalinism

If your lazy ass doesn't work you get sent to Siberia

I think that's incentive enough

I dunno, I think enticing someone with a "reward" for their work - food, money, shelter, etc results in better work.

Incentive =/= Punishment

Fuck off

>Yes. Penalty by death or slave labour for vpicing any criticism of the system or the leaders.
This should be advocated under a Nationalist regime, no? How else will we prevent subversion?

Only when star trek becomes a reality and we have food replicators and holodecks

Nice straw man.
The closest 20th century "communist" state to anything Marx envisioned was Titoist Yugoslavia.

it is not democratic and doens't respect individual freedom

Because I'm not a pathetic 14-year-old manlet looking to get back at the cool kids.

True

But I was saying it's still technically an incentive to work

The only one of stalins ideas I like is "death is the solution to all problems no man no problem" if we had these globalist kike fuckers under 6 feet it would solve a lot of problems

What is going here? You degenerating the workers again?

>democratic
Democracy was a fucking mistake
>individual freedumbs
Why the west is in decline right now and the white race is going extinct

I'm not a Stalinist though. More of a national socialist

Because I'm OK with my weight and I don't feel the need to starve.

You're an idiot.

>implying Trump-sama won't have eternal golden hair

It's not a strawman, it's an either or proposition given "communism"s 100% failure rate in implementation.

You can have your perfect system, but for that claim to hold water you have to make the 100% failure rate in implementation irrelevant. You do this by invoking the perfect forms shit and you're not wrong, just lazy. All "communist" countries aren't actually communist, therefore the system is not discredited.

Or, you can admit that communism is flawed, but still worth fighting for. Okay, that's fine, at this point we step out of the ideological fortress. Now we talk about the myriad of ways that it fails in implementation because that's relevant to the discussion. At which point the "remind me how this doesn't end in genocide every time" argument ALSO becomes very relevant.

Frankly I don't completely blame communists for choosing the first option, because it's the only option that doesn't put you on the defensive immediately.