Federal Judge Rules That Obama’s Handover Of Internet Control Can Go Through
>Four state attorney generals, as well as Senators Ted Cruz (R-TX) and John Thune (R-SD) fail in their attempts to keep President Obama from transferring the control of the internet out of U.S. hands and to the control of an international body.
{Comment redacted by a joint effort from the United Nations Internet Safety Association, the Canadian Department of Cybermanagement, the Jewish Internet Monitoring League, and the International Centre For Hate Speech Prevention for violating sections (59-B, 40-CE, 76-R, 22-ST) of the United Nations Internet Fair Use Agreement as well as sections (3b, 4c, 5c) of Canadian Bill C-13. Continued violations will result in an immediate seizure of internet access and possible prosecution. Contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) for further information. Remember, a free internet is a safe internet.}
Evan Lee
Why the fuck would you do something like that on election time? It's suicide for your own party
Jace Morris
Because violent revolt (and not choosing the right party) is grounds for martial law. 4 more years, kids!
Justin Watson
>It's suicide for your own party
he is making sure Hillary doesn't have to make unpopular decisions in 2017
Elijah Howard
You are Cred Forums which means you are wrong, which mean we are right
Why the fuck would we give up control of the internet??
Ian Long
We could have nominated el rato and he would have saved the internet
God has forsaken us
Lucas Lee
why are you laughing at that you stupid Portuguese rape monkey? Say goodbye to freedom of speech
James Ortiz
Saudis are mad. Pissed their puppet got cast aside on the 9/11 bill.
Jeremiah Barnes
Because Obama hates America and the freedom it stands for.
Julian Martin
So the kikes can censor it
John Perry
{Comment redacted by a joint effort from the United Nations Internet Safety Association, the Canadian Department of Cybermanagement, the Jewish Internet Monitoring League, and the International Centre For Hate Speech Prevention for violating sections (59-B, 40-CE, 76-R, 22-ST) of the United Nations Internet Fair Use Agreement as well as sections (3b, 4c, 5c) of Canadian Bill C-13. Continued violations will result in an immediate seizure of internet access and possible prosecution. Contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) for further information. Remember, a free internet is a safe internet.}
Angel Hernandez
>Control technology so powerful and influential it brought about the Information Age, allowing almost instantaneous communication worldwide. >Give it away to a vague, international body.
What the fuck man.
Zachary Ross
because Obama just says that this is to stop terrorism/racism and your average retard believes him
just like when the mandatory gun buyback program goes through in x years, your average retard will believe it will be done to prevent gun crime
John Rogers
What the fuck does this even mean? The Internet isn't just one fucking place, there isn't some massive "internet control center" that the US has that controls the entire Internet, so what the fuck implications does this even have? It's a global network anyways.
Ethan Sanders
Yes.
Wyatt Kelly
>there isn't some massive "internet control center" that the US has that controls the entire Internet
Caleb Kelly
This post has been removed by the UN department of Internet Relations
Reason: Intolerant Views and Language
Carson Evans
You know how DNS works, right? If not, read that up.
Just be aware that some sites, including the one you're reading right now don't allow direct IP access and NEVER WILL EVER AGAIN because otherwise they'd get DDOSed to death.
Joshua Adams
There aren't enough cell phones yet. But there will be soon.
Gabriel Adams
The ICANN controls DNS and IPs
They can literally remove anything they want for any reason
Hudson Barnes
Sure he did. The minute Cruz took up the cause I knew it was going to happen.
Ayden Gonzalez
He gave away US control of the DNS servers, meaning any websites that are not already reached by IP will have to comply by the UN's rules or have their domain names taken offline. Possibly have their respective IP address shelved as well.
Kevin Reed
>Punished Cruze, a senator denied of his delagats
No but in all seriousness he actually does have intergrity and a moral compass. Thanks for fighting for us rato ;_;7
Caleb Adams
in case you didn't notice, obama is still president through the end of this week
Michael Gray
When Trump wins he'll just take it back, won't he?
Grayson Murphy
And Snowden isn't real person. Russian propaganda. Show us proofs!
Leo Fisher
What's the judges name? He and his family should be butchered.
Adrian Garcia
Normalfags ruined the internet years ago and king nigger is just putting the nails in the coffin.
Off to new frontiers.
John Sanchez
yeah boi
Thomas Gray
Ask obama
Isaac Evans
Trump will reverse this bullshit right?
Justin Parker
I told you guys in 2005.. we should have killed white traitors
Robert Morgan
Fucking amerifats, you better let wallmart sharting for later and go vote for Trump when the day comes.
I can't take it anymore, you were supposed to be an example for us. I already lost any hope for europe as well, don't disappoint me.
t. Alberto Barbosa
Henry Stewart
cant wait for arbitrary hatespeech censoring overlooked by a council of feminist retards.
Lincoln Adams
It's true, they are the biggest problem of all. I hate them more than any other demographic
Luke Carter
Why wouldn't Trump just take the military and force them to give it back? He's Trump.
Wyatt Baker
NUKE OREGON
Henry Perry
I've been telling this since 2005 We don't need to hate niggers and arabs. If wasn't for white traitors we would never had any problem with them in the first place. They wouldn't be living anywhere near us.
Noah Phillips
>Trump posters, everybody
Oliver Miller
Mandatory thread:
Spread it as hard as possible. Cred Forums must be mobilized and prepared for what's about to happen to the net in the next few months and years
We should arm ourselves with our own 2nd amendment that keeps anti-freespeech censorship at bay
Adrian Sanders
true this.
Juan Walker
Onigga's legacy
Mason Gutierrez
>you were supposed to be an example for us No
Caleb Morales
He did mingle with muslims when he was young.
Sebastian Walker
you guys realise this is actually a good thing, right?
the UN have cyberviolence experts looking to prevent harassment.
This. So Obama and his kike and muzzie friends can censor nationalists and nationalist movements worldwide and especially in the USA. To destroy freedom of speech everywhere. It is an act of war, basically.
Lucas Myers
I really begin to despise democracy. its such a shitty system
hillary is far ahead just because all the media and muh wacism. its fucking cancer ive no respect for democracy and I hope the people who died for 'my right to vote' rot in hell
Liam Flores
This made me ill
Chase Murphy
This is the fucking nigger judge, appointed by Obonobo, that ruled in favor of the transfer.
Andrew Williams
I need a bandaid, medpack
Aiden Gray
Just like William Pierce said 10+ years ago
If the white middle class was not so numbed and addicted to mass media and money Obama would never have happened.
Even Clinton would never have happened.
Nicholas Sullivan
They'll care when their edgy serial killer worship tumblrs get censored. It'll be too late by then.
Nathan Clark
he was not the only one, everyone that wasn't against it, was for it.
You guys are forgetting that the UN enforces jack fucking shit
Eli Ross
A few years back leddit, Google and the like were absolutely furious at potential censorship of the Internet. Now that it is their ideology that gets to stay at the top, they are 100% fine with it. There is zero complaint or mention of this development by these sites.
John Price
Democrats are all mentally defective, welfare serfs. They don't care about anything important. They've been bred that way.
Lincoln Foster
I don't see why not really. You could probably build it on the ethereum platform which would make it a lot easier to do
Jonathan Turner
Reminder: Saudi Arabia leads UN's human rights council.
Noah Harris
...
Carson Thomas
What the fuck gives Obongo the right to give it away? I mean seriously he had no fucking part in the creation of internet control, why does he get to just fucking give something away because he knows the UN will run it the way he wants. Also isn't he trying to get on the UN after his term? He's literally just trying to give himself control of the internet.
Zachary Perry
But that's Eddie Murphy. So that'swhy doesn't make movies anymore
Julian Adams
Now all he needs is TPP
Brody Richardson
Shitskins have an inferiority complex. It leads them to throw stones at everyone's stuff, after their tard-plans fail.
guys seems we have a plan DNS host across the world made by pol similar to tor network
Lincoln Scott
>wow look as this dumb politician doing things we like! I bet he only does it so we will like him and vote for him! let's vote trump because he will do whatever the fuck he wants regardless of the population wants!
Hunter Butler
MSM doesn't mention it. Neither do any of the liberal controlled websites. (which is most of them) And I bet a huge chunk of liberals would support it anyway.
Andrew Thompson
...
Gabriel Gonzalez
what does this mean for the animes?
Christopher Torres
>Why The Internet Censorship is A Good Thing
It's already happening in small leftist blogs. Open every liberal and leftist outlet in a few hours you'll see more and more.
Anthony Ramirez
Anyone else getting really really angry at this point?
Benjamin Richardson
Two questions, what does this mean, what changed?
And why did Obama do this? What was the reason given?
Dominic Hughes
>what does this mean Good for the goyim >And why did Obama do this good for the goyim >What was the reason given? Yes. You guessed it. Good for the goyim
Samuel Hall
Is that picture fake? Serious question. Earlier I saw a video of him wearing a jew hat and it was all legit. Idk if he just culturally appropriates each time he talks ti a different group or what.
Evan Peterson
Fucking pathetic, hypocrite shitstains. The same cunts were screaming bloody murder at the idea of their "progressiveness" being shut down. Back then freedom of speech was so important!
Logan Price
now any country in the world can request to remove the url of a site that "öffends them" and obama did it because muh globalism
Angel Sullivan
You mean bad for the Goyim.
Nathan Wilson
Do you want to know what is really happening or just bask in the fear porn? The fear porn is much more satisfying, and I approve wholeheartedly.
Camden Wright
>And why did Obama do this? I'm honestly almost thinking it's a bride. He wants to go to the UN after he finishes his term. Maybe he made an agreement, give the UN the internet (and the power to censor it) and he gets a seat
Ian Morris
Both
Owen Richardson
I don't know what you are referring to goyim, when was the last time anything bad happened to you?
James Parker
Leftist change their goals faster than Soros rob the goyim.
Censorship >if done by leftists Protection and assures good sustainable environment. >Not done by leftists Oppression. Fascism. Patriarchy. Control over the free people.
See how easy it is?
Kevin James
Probably for future employment opportunities from his handlers.
Barry is an opportunistic piece of shit.
Lucas Reed
Hey China you already have censorship how do you bypass it?
Jack Smith
I absolutely am
Jason Jackson
We could always just not comply with the UN, essentially rendering the law irrelevant.
Tyler Watson
The rightist fear porn version: Obama is handing over the internet to the UN.
The leftist fear porn version: Ted Cruz is attempting to take over the internets.
The actuality: The Department of Commerce (a US organization Ted Cruz wants gone anyway) is ending its superficial relationship with ICANN, the international group that registers new domain names.
Remember Ted Cruz vs Trump, in which he just took Trump's positions and said they were the opposite? This is slightly deregulating the internet, and he's arguing for more regulations.
Ted Cruz comes off as a defender of the internet and, having endorsed Trump, and has rebuilt his reputation if Trump wins. If Trump loses, well conservatives are in for a rough patch anyway.
Essentially Ted Cruz is attempting to seize control over ze internets under the guise of stopping the UN from seizing control over the internets.
Carson Allen
they use vpn
Camden Allen
>Essentially Ted Cruz is attempting It's more than 18 people. He is helping the cause to get public attention.
Aiden Peterson
okay, let's look for a silver lining: will the muslims and chinks start censoring feminist shit?
Benjamin Thomas
Hong Kong is outside that. Anyone in China that wants outside access uses a VPN.
Camden Reed
Are we pretending that the U.N. doesn't believe in free speech?
Angel Hughes
It's nigh we create our own decentralized chan ala TOR/bittorrent/bitcoin . I mean, a guy in the early 2000 created the torrent protocol innocently on his free time, what can we do now?
Bentley Green
“Is ICANN bound by the First Amendment?” >No
With ICANN no longer subject to U.S. agency control, the First Amendment freedom of expression no longer applies.
Nicholas Diaz
The UN isn't actually going to be able to do anything new whatsoever, and isn't involved.
On the other hand, because of Ted Cruz, the US, which had no practical control whatsoever (only the approval or disapproval of new analogs to .com and .gov) THINKS there is an emergency and will possibly seek to gain new power over the internet if this gathers steam.
It also tarnishes o'Nigger's legacy, 99% of lefties do not understand what is going on and will think that Obama ruined the internet.
Kayden Watson
The same UN that's actively trying to end Japan's free speech because feminists are offended?
Tyler Rodriguez
yes
Jose Barnes
As long as you dont say anything that offends them then yeah they are totally for free speech
Isaac Scott
Question:
Why the fuck would the POTUS even have the authority to give away the internet?
Someone spoonfeed this shit to me.
Jackson Brown
I'm aware its more than him, but they've conjured a very interesting movement. The only power America is losing is the ability to deny .fux or .gay or whatever as a kind of website address, but almost no one understands that.
Evan Collins
What's this about japan's free speech? Did I miss something?
Jeremiah Cox
{Comment redacted by a joint effort from the United Nations Internet Safety Association, the Brazilian Department of Cybermanagement, the Jewish Internet Monitoring League, and the International Centre For Hate Speech Prevention for violating sections (59-B, 40-CE, 76-R, 22-ST) of the United Nations Internet Terms Of Service Agreement as well as sections (3b, 4c, 5c) of Brazilian Bill C-13. Continued violations will result in an immediate seizure of internet access and possible prosecution. Contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) for further information. Remember, a free internet is a safe internet.}
Brody Jackson
You do know that UN is controlled by majority of shit hole countries right?
Lincoln Robinson
Been that way for a long time
Julian Gonzalez
>It's just a group that registers new domain names I don't think you understand how the Internet works.
Getting rid of this "superficial relationship" allows other countries to selectively attack domain names of US companies.
Basically, any website you use, including Cred Forums, can now be unlisted without the US getting much of a say. I hope you've been making an IP list, I have 40 websites on mine so far.
The UN literally has nothing to do with ICANN. Why won't you baby boomers learn how the Internet works?
Leo Lewis
Because obama is an actual asshole
He never gave a shit about america, democrats, the people or even money. He literally just became president for his own self inflates ego. He even said america was only great because he was president. Hes doing this because he just wants to piss everyone off
Joshua Rivera
You want to watch something very disturbing?
I hope you have stomach. It happened. Hollande and Merkel were there
You are aware this is a theatrical reenactment of a local Swiss legend, right? And what does this even have to do with ICANN?
Mason Barnes
Hell yeah. But what do? For now, i'm just spreading the word.
Lucas Green
Sorry, this isn't /x/.
No super secret conspiracy organization of the five jewish bankers and bildeberg illuminatis are going to secretly, but very publicly, make themselves known over a major highway tunnel construction.
It's just weird Europeans being fucking weird.
Elijah Davis
>local Swiss legend
Jace Roberts
>Can you imagine what will happen if our politicians in power can control the speech on the internet?
Povraca mi se od pomisli realno.
Zar cemo stvarno morati opet da idemo u brda?
Joshua Russell
>I don't think you understand how the Internet works.
Virtually no one does, which is why this fake controversy is gaining so much traction. I'm not even saying the campaign is a bad thing -- its great. Hopefully when this movement tries to reestablish stuff with ICANN, we will get more power than before.
I would think 2017 is the perfect time fuck shit up 2019 is another story
Kayden Gomez
Yes, a local legend involving the devil. I understand that Brazil, being a fake country of halfbreeds, has no culture, but that's not true for most of the rest of the world.
Colton Hill
We still can
Josiah Garcia
ICANN only has control over root level domains. They can't wipe Cred Forums.org from their host file without also wiping every other .org domain. Same goes for all the other top level domains.
Alright alright big question, this is just for websites and such, right? This is only control over URLs and websites and such Which is still terrible, but, theoretically it doesn't affect programs like Steam and such? So I can still use my free speech on Steam?
Also as an American I wouldn't be punished irl if I chose to state my opinion since it's still constitutional here, but every other country will fucking suffer?
Why not make a Cred Forums steam group.
Xavier Smith
Hilarious how you are physically incapable of even understanding what that word means. Kill yourself, you miscegenated kitchen sink of a human. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_Bridge
Isaac Gray
You have a giant statue of a man, who walked on water, witnessed the resurrection of the dead, heard voices, talked down Lucifer, and turned water into wine, right above your national capital.
Yes, keep trying to act like the Swiss are irrational with their crazy myths.
un has no obligations to respect free speach and it was made to give in to the demands of anyone with power to avoid ww3 if u gave the the power to remove urls what do you think china rusia or saudi arabia will do?
Adrian Taylor
>you miscegenated kitchen sink of a human Reddit rants are the worst rants. Not even funny.
Camden Parker
desu I trust a BR less than a Dutchman True, but accounts could be ignored easily not to mention every Steam account has a flag. Am I going to sincerely trust icann.org on icann's motives? Also >First optional language next to English is Arabic Can't make this shit up
Zachary Gomez
EVERYONE here is a retard
this change is mostly ceremonial, no, it doesnt mean the us no longer has control over the internet and china can come and ruin stuff, stop being stupid this isnt the greatest, but it helps a bit
I feel like America has to hit rock bottom before anything improves. Like Democrats controlling all three branches and just going absolutley nuts.
Of course there might not be much of a America left after that but people are so fucking brainwashed that they need reality to punch them in the face.
Of course like the Soviet Union, Maoist China or North Korea when leftist policy fails then inevitably blame reactionaries and begin the purges. They can never admit they were wrong.
Why are you people so fucking stupid? Do you even understand what you're saying?
Connor Watson
No, I just don't trust the possible threat promising me they aren't a threat I fucking knew it, filthy Dutch bastard.
Austin Scott
You too. Are you a proxy, liberal or a kebab?
Liberals are usually not racist but they play the racist card on Cred Forums to fit in
James Watson
>arctechnica
They're lying. This is a confidence game where whenever Obama or liberals do something that takes away our rights they go "haha you actually believe that you rightwing conspiracy loon?"
Isaiah Parker
>It's suicide for your own party This assumes that leftists have thoughts of their own.
Bentley Walker
I hope he likes to decorate trees. This shit won't be forgotten.
I'm clearly neither, because I actually know how the Internet works.
Carson Ortiz
Do you eat bacon?
Jaxson Smith
>No, I just don't trust the possible threat promising me they aren't a threat Why do you even think ICANN, who has been doing this since 1998, is a possible threat? You literally refuse to even inform yourself of what is actually happening. It's like you're proud of not knowing.
Ryan Hughes
The fact that his is being posted everywhere as truth is evidence that you guys are retarded as fuck.
Please just stop. It's as bad or worse than when leftism media lies about something that's you have in depth knowledge about. Just stop, Cred Forums, I though you guys were smart and internet-savvy. Why do you not understand what ICANN is and how it's not the Internet? Why are you all so stupid?
Kevin Stewart
post proof pic you shill
Liam Jackson
>who has been doing this since 1998
Because now they are no longer under the first amendment.
Free speech in US is different from Free Speech defined by the UN and leftist organizations.
Gabriel Jones
>Just stop, Cred Forums, I though you guys were smart and internet-savvy. Why do you not understand what ICANN is and how it's not the Internet? Why are you all so stupid? Baby boomers. They actually think the Internet is a series of tubes and the US is passing control of the main valve to the UN or something.
Adrian Hernandez
>ICANN, a California-based nonprofit, manages the database for top-level domain names such as .com and .net and their corresponding numeric addresses that allow computers to connect.
dailystormer will be closed down in a few hours.
Hudson Rodriguez
the changes are ceremonial though
ICANN arent being given any more powers than they currently have, only formally
Blake Thompson
They're not "under the first amendment" now, it's not a government organization. And again, ICANN can't censor websites. For the love of God, just look up what it does.
Nathaniel Gray
this this
Nicholas Richardson
>durrrr not being able to type in the domain of a website won't hinder traffic at all
Connor Foster
Stop being fucking retarded. You actually think that shutting down all of the .com domain to censor a single website is a realistic scenario? And again, ICANN can already do that now!
Benjamin Watson
>Hahahaha you really thing Obama is going to legalize pedophilia? fuck Fox News KKK conspiracy! Obama is a real democrat and will protect children Cred Forums 2009
>California Gov. Jerry Brown is approving legislation decriminalizing prostitution for minors and taking other steps to make life after human trafficking easier for those forced into it.
>The Democratic governor announced Monday he signed SB1322 to ban police from charging people under the age of 18 with prostitution.
They were.
Tyler Green
Nothing will change. ICANN has been, for all intents and purposes, 100% free and independent for almost 20 years.
Every couple of years the Department of Commerce signs a contract that says "ok run the internet" and ICANN goes "yeah ok".
The contract is a $0.00 contract.
A memorandum of understanding that stripped all government influence in ICANN's operations was signed in 1998 with the intent that when ICANN demonstrated that they could manage without government control, it would be fully privatized.
Commerce has decided after 18 years that ICANN doesn't need a piece of paper to "authorize" it to run IANA.
The only requirements of the contract are, simply:
Do this internet thing Follow the regulations. But oh yeah you write the regulations and then tell us what they are and then follow them Report to us that you are following the regulations that you wrote in reports that you would publish anyways even if not required to despite the fact that nobody in the government will ever read them
After the switch is thrown, nothing will change except that a single government official's signature won't be on a contract telling ICANN to do what it has been doing for years anymore.
Oh, and hundreds if not thousands of hours spent doing contract amendments (on a $0.00 contract) whenever personnel are hired or move to other jobs won't be wasted anymore.
>They were. No. The First Amendment is a restriction on government. ICANN was never government. It's a private organization.
Noah Perez
With that comment you just prove you are an idiot and a obongo shill. They were subject to the First Amendment because they had a contract with the federal government which expired today.
Brody Scott
You really have no idea how this works, do you. ICANN handles DNS. Not just TLD.
Noah Diaz
>transferring the control of the internet Republican tier understanding of the cyber.
Nolan Young
What is the point of handing over the internet? Why not keep it?
Andrew Moore
I'm afraid none of these idiots have the intellectual courage to read anything that might indicate they have been wrong.
Angel Sanchez
>transferring the control of the internet explain to me exactly how one goes about that? i mean since when did anyone actually 'own' the internet, much less control it
also if that is infact the case who cares >implying there wont be an internet2.0 soon anyway? im more than confident people would form a new form of internet or form of communication much like the onion network, just new, lacking in normies that is if it isnt already in use
Charles Peterson
Maybe you should actually read the First Amendment sometime.
Connor Price
Report: ID geJieB1W and ID RJc6eEWs
Obama shills spreading disinformation here. They don't know what they are talking about.
Hide their ids and report so mods can ban obongo shills.
Angel White
Deutsche Bank comes to mind as pol's latest """detective work"""
Ethan Harris
>believes ICANN only handles top level domain, like .com.
You're like that kid on AOL who got a punting script and told all his friends he was a hacker.
Angel King
They said themselves they were no longer under the First Amendment after the contract expires
Now US government has zero control over free speech in DNS .com, .net and sub domains
I'm only answering this to counter your disinformation strategy
Charles Morales
I think this thread is like 75% one Brazilian going bonkers fucking with anyone who will reply to him and 25% casual readers asking genuine questions.
Jose Nguyen
How does that contradict what I just said? How do you propose, in technical terms, ICANN censors a single website? You sure you quoted the right post, buddy?
Luis Fisher
>someone disagrees with you >ban and report them
Yea, great.
Benjamin Sullivan
>Politically Incorrect board
Go spread Obongo shilling somewhere else.
Lincoln Parker
oh did you type in the IP address to get here you stupid fuck?
fucking huehues you're a pox on the world
Liam Perez
>They said themselves they were no longer under the First Amendment after the contract expires No? icann.org/iana-stewardship-questions >Does the transition threaten Internet freedom?
No. The United States Government's contract with ICANN does not give the U.S. any power to regulate or protect speech on the Internet. The IANA functions are technical – not content – based >Now US government has zero control over free speech in DNS .com, .net and sub domains Right, it has zero control now and it will have zero control after the contract expires.
Matthew Ortiz
This fight is only interesting if you're both brazilian women.
Kevin Ramirez
The idiot is actually quoting icann like Hillary and Obongo shills quoted Obama in the past
>You're just wrong! It's Fox News and KKK propaganda
Politically INCORRECT board, remember.
Thomas Parker
>Right, it has zero control now and it will have zero control after the contract expires. The issue is about the ability to bring an issue to court. US courts generally side on the 1st amendment. That protection is now going away. This is simple shit, user. Why are you retarded?
Juan Martinez
Oboma is blowing up Muslims like our bombs have a two week shelf life, you're typing nonsense on a free message board. Who's really the politically incorrect one?
Juan Young
Politically Incorrect, not Factually Incorrect, you braindead hue.
Isaac Parker
>The Politifact/snopes shill
Hunter Thompson
Obama plans to try make a career in the UN after his presidency ends.
At the minute he'd get eaten alive as being useless and two faced unless he delivered a massive yet solely ornamental gift.
Ian Robinson
>Oboma is blowing up Muslims Do I smell rat?
Brody Wright
>you braindead hue. Says the guy who thinks ICANN would have to shut down all .coms in order to get eliminate the DNS of a website.
>does not understand the difference between TLD and DNS.
Jayden Harris
What protection? What the fuck do you think ICANN does? Again, ICANN is a private organization. What the fuck are you going to bring it to court for? The First Amendment only applies to government.
Henry Peterson
How the fuck can this happen without approval from Senate or Congress or whatever it is in USA? This is insane. The Internet is the most powerful tool mankind has created. Giving up control to the fucking UN is an act of terrorism.
Justin Wood
>eliminate the DNS of a website Jesus.
Tell me, how do you think ICANN could censor a single website? Explain it to me, in technical terms. I'm genuinely curious.
Adam Diaz
Probably, you are in Brazil.
Sebastian Jenkins
Lets say Trump become president, is there anything he can do to reverse this decision or somehow circumvent it?
Ryder Edwards
>The First Amendment only applies to government. And thus ends the argument. Enjoy your knocked over chess pieces mr. pigeon.
Alexander Morales
The UN is not related to ICANN in any way. When did I ever refer to either? Are you perhaps illiterate?
Brody Walker
kek
Aaron Kelly
There are Brazilian men?
Austin Cruz
Have you read it lately? >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Sebastian Green
Everyone here is mad for no fucking reason. All of you just hate it because Obama did it. You're all a bunch of cucks who don't even know what happened.
Lincoln Thompson
So er, the hats on all the posts, is this something to do with the end of the free internet?
Isaiah Foster
I don't know what happened, that's why I asked and then a Brazilian and Dutchman started slinging shit and other Burgers followed.
Easton Brooks
ICANN is a private organization, its not really clear how the American government could lawfully nationalize it.
He could put in motion the development on a new internet with it's on constitution. Incentivize it's use in the country, thus the rest of the world would follow.
On October 1, 2016 ICANN ended its contract with the United States Department of Commerce National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) and entered the private sector.
Are you aware that they were under Federal Law and that they are not anymore?
Means US Constitution means shit to them.
Eli Hill
See A guy on >reddit gave a good explanation of what it means, and why it actually doesn't really matter.
Cred Forums is overreacting.
Levi Nguyen
>Are you aware that they were under Federal Law They weren't. Do you honestly think that any entity that enters a contract with a branch or agency of the government is suddenly a part of the government?
Jeremiah Walker
>Are you aware that they were under Federal Law and that they are not anymore? > >Means US Constitution means shit to them.
Are you aware of how ICANN works?
If you made KILLOBAMA.COM, ICANN has NO POWER TO CENSOR THAT SITE.
They could take down all of .com if they wanted, but NOT your specific site.
Censorship of specific sites is done at the ISP/country level. NOT at ICANN. That isn't how the internet works.
Hudson Rodriguez
Now this is a country I can trust, not some creepy giant or a shitskin trannie Thanks.
Thomas Fisher
From reddit
> And they've got a really cool way of making decisions - consensus. Consensus is better than voting, because with voting you can have 60% of people screwing over the other 40%. With consensus, everyone has to agree. So everyone meets up at ICANN to make decisions about these kinds of things - which domains to let into the root (and other things). These people include private businesses, civil society, governments, academics, technical community, and others.
>society, governments, academics, technical communities, etc >cool way
Jackson Reed
Why are you linking that wiki page. Are you fucking stupid? That doesn't mean shit. This whole thing doesn't mean shit. It's literally nothing
Cooper Fisher
>academics
Adam Bailey
And all of them have to agree. ALL of them.
If even one person/group disagrees, the thing doesn't happen.
Mason Nguyen
How do I know you're stupid? Is it the fact that you're from Brazil or that you're getting triggered from the phrase "cool way"
Christian Powell
And the Internet has been run that way for almost 20 years now. If you want more government control over the Internet, you might be in the wrong place. Try China.
Brayden Clark
Agreed but risky example domain. I would've gone with something safer but still relevant to the censorship issue, like '3DGunPrints.com' or something.
Jose Jenkins
>They are going to invite any anti-european or anti-globalist organization to be part of the "elite group"
African Telecommunications Union Asia-Pacific Telecommunity Caribbean Telecommunications Union (CTU) Commonwealth Telecommunications Organisation (CTO) Council of Europe Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) European Broadcasting Union European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) European Space Agency International Labour Office International Telecommunication Union (ITU) International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement Latin American Association of Telecom Regulatory Agencies (REGULATEL) League of Arab States New Partnership for Africa's Development (NEPAD) Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development The Organization for Islamic Cooperation Organization of American States Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF) Pacific Islands Forum Secretariat of the Pacific Community (SPC) Inter-American Telecommunication Commission (CITEL) International Criminal Court United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Universal Postal Union World Bank World Health Organization (WHO) World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) World Meteorological Organization World Trade Organization
As you can see, all globalist organizations.
Austin Lewis
But nothing is changing. All the groups that had a vote before are the same that have them now, the ONLY DIFFERENCE is that the US Government no longer has veto powers. Which they have never used anyway.
Connor Garcia
It's been happening on major leftest blogs since well before today. They've been trying to get conservatives banned from twitter. They've been shutting down comments sections. They've been shadowbanning commentators. They've supported the arrests of canadians and englishmen for online comments. They really don't care about free speech at all.
Lucas Sullivan
It is changing since the contract with the US Government ended they have no obligation to respect the First Amendment
Their slogan >One World. One Internet.
>They called for accelerating the globalization of ICANN and IANA functions, towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all governments, participate on an equal footing.
EQUALITY, EQUALITY!
Ethan Russell
Let me see if i can too. Heil hitler, gas the kikes, deport niggers, kill all muslims.
Jack Perez
Those things have nothing to do with ICANN though. If you think ICANN can suddenly censor Cred Forums or anywhere else you straight up just don't understand how the internet works.
>their slogan
Again; IT ALREADY WORKED LIKE THIS. THE INTERNET HAS BEEN RUN IN THIS EXACT WAY BY THE SAME PEOPLE FOR 20 YEARS.
They are no longer bound to the First Amendment (not that they really were to begin with) but any changes still require full consensus.
I don't understand what you think they can do now that they couldn't before.
Nicholas Nelson
>It is changing since the contract with the US Government ended they have no obligation to respect the First Amendment They never did. Nor does respecting the First Amendment mean anything in light of the activities of ICANN. And again, private organizations are not bound by the First Amendment.
Easton Thompson
Your comment is contradictory.
First you state: >IT ALREADY WORKED LIKE THIS.
Then you mention the fact that these globalists Unions and "civil rights" organizations will control the decisions
>any changes still require full consensus
>I don't understand what you think they can do now that they couldn't before.
You answered yourself this question. Future decisions are no longer bound by the First Amendment.
For top level domains, yes. That's why they broke the contract.
Colton Bell
googles and skypes
bad types
Lincoln Robinson
>For top level domains, yes. That's why they broke the contract Nobody broke a contract, they're letting it expire, which is exactly as was planned in 1998.
Adrian Gray
Cred Forums said this would happen
Cred Forums is always right
Ian Perry
He has no chance of winning once they start cutting traffic to websites
It was nice shitposting with you goys
Bentley Reed
Of course they were not bound by the First Amendment > THE COMPANY Their activities however was controlled by the US government
Now it's going to be 100% controlled by the same people who control free speech in germany and sweden
I thought you were an arab but you are a libertarian shill.
Angel Brown
He'd be fully in his right to do so. The UN is unconstitutional.
Isaiah Jackson
>in less than 1 minute the Rethardland shill will quote UN website to show they protect human rights and are the good guys.
Anthony Cook
ICANN and its activities have nothing to do with free speech, censorship or content. You have no idea how the Internet works. >I thought you were an arab but you are a libertarian shill. Make up your mind slumdweller.
Cooper Cooper
kys
Josiah Ortiz
How long have you been on Cred Forums or Cred Forums in general? IN a few months we've turned pepe, the character from a seires of underground comic books about smoking weed in to a god of the alt right. 4 guys spammed twitter for an entire day to make TEd Cruz is the zodiac killer a meme. Every poll that every major new outlet makes get's instantly flooded with votes going against what they want because a few people on Cred Forums can spread the word do efficently that even halmark voting for a new beany baby isn't safe and don't even get me started on the number of videos and streams that go against the current narrative of what obama, the dems, liberals and the EU is trying to ti put in place.
The fact is the internet is the wild west where anything goes and as long as there is no control or way to monitor it there is no way for the people in power to be kept in power when you have forces that are against them.
It used to be that if you control the money you control the world. Instead it is the internet and the moment it no longer belongs to everyone then the world as we know it could be doomed.
Dylan Reed
Not an argument
Colton Diaz
He would look good hanging from one of my trees in the yard.
>Why the fuck would we give up control of the internet??
Because its 2016
Lincoln Long
Okay? Do you have a point beyond telling us that you don't understand what ICANN does?
Jace Brooks
is this a joke with this shit ? now way they are censoring comments
Samuel Scott
>Cuck posters, everybody
Parker Diaz
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Wyatt Nelson
I do give him credit. He did try to fight it and raise awareness.
He may have never gotten the delegates, but this was a sincere effort by him.
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Colton Edwards
Well then just in case I will prevent that.
The United States Constitution Article VI
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
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The Executive, Judicial, and Legislative Branches of the U.S. Government have followed the policy of the Unites nations Treaty approved under the U.N. Participation Act of 1945 in behalf of the Unites States of America by Harry S. Truman and the Unites States Senate, which treaty supersedes the United States Constitution under the terms of Article VI of the United States Constitution. The Council of Foreign Relations created the United Nations. Their member agents, Alger Hiss and Leo Pasvolsky did the paperwork, but the honors went to a special committee appointed by President Roosevelt to draw the first draft of the Charter. The members of the committee were: Sumner Wells, Isaiah Bowman, Hamilton Fish Armstrong, (((Benjamin Cohen))), and Clark Eichelberger - All members of the Council on Foreign Relations and members the JASON society.
Ian Martinez
[–]cryptovariable 93 points 7 hours ago
Nothing will change. ICANN has been, for all intents and purposes, 100% free and independent for almost 20 years.
Every couple of years the Department of Commerce signs a contract that says "ok run the internet" and ICANN goes "yeah ok".
The contract is a $0.00 contract.
A memorandum of understanding that stripped all government influence in ICANN's operations was signed in 1998 with the intent that when ICANN demonstrated that they could manage without government control, it would be fully privatized.
Commerce has decided after 18 years that ICANN doesn't need a piece of paper to "authorize" it to run IANA.
The only requirements of the contract are, simply:
Do this internet thing Follow the regulations. But oh yeah you write the regulations and then tell us what they are and then follow them Report to us that you are following the regulations that you wrote in reports that you would publish anyways even if not required to despite the fact that nobody in the government will ever read them
After the switch is thrown, nothing will change except that a single government official's signature won't be on a contract telling ICANN to do what it has been doing for years anymore.
Oh, and hundreds if not thousands of hours spent doing contract amendments (on a $0.00 contract) whenever personnel are hired or move to other jobs won't be wasted anymore.
The Charter was rushed through the U.S. Senate without printed copies to guide the Senators: it was explained to them by Russian-born revolutionary Leo Pasvolsky. The Charter conferred no real power on the General Assembly; all the power was in the Security Council where the veto was. The Senate would not have ratified the Charter except that the American delegation had a right to veto if our interests were threatened by action of other members.
Included in this Charter was article 25: "Member nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council in accordance with the Present Charter." No restrictions, no reservations. The is all of Article 25. Note the word "present," indicating that there might be other charters. The veto was a hindrance to World Government -- it had to be circumvented. In 1950 the General Assembly, without any legal authority, met and adopted what they named the "Uniting for Peace" resolution. This, greatly expanded since that time, permitted The General Assembly to exercise the powers of The Security Council. The Government of the United States recognizes the illegally amended Charter as the "law of the world," overriding our Constitution.
The General Assembly has for years been making the law of the world by ratifying resolutions by a 2/3 majority vote. When the Resolution is ratified it is sent down to the chief executive of the member state and the executive is obligated to accept and carry out the provisions in the resolution. The governments concerned must ignore, abolish, revise and rescind laws in their territories which conflict with the resolutions of the General Assembly, and to pass other laws which will put these resolutions into force.
Ethan Moore
Well the kind of globalism they are aiming to create is certainly illegal as of now.
I mean this is why Brexit was so fucking important.
I didnt vote for obama either time and truly despised him and everything he did.
Not that I had any say....but as an American I have to say this is fucking shameful. Im livid right now.
I feel like all the things you think are just a few searches away and have always relied on being there are going to start disappearing. Including this board.
We meme'd so hard that we meme'd ourselves into extinction. They just couldn't let us have this.
John Jenkins
Why does Cruz fail in everything?
Aaron Myers
"One man, one vote" comes through Resolution No. 1760. There are more than 2000 of these resolutions now in affect. They are the law of the land. Our civil rights laws, our agricultural laws, our health and welfare laws, our labor laws, our foreign aid laws -- all come from resolutions of the General Assembly or treaties of the U.N. ratified by our Senate.
Any law passed in your state will be rescinded or abolished if it is in conflict with resolutions of the General Assembly or treaties of the U.N. All of the intelligence organizations of the United States work directly for the United Nations in concert with the Secret Government toward the sole purpose of the destruction of the sovereignty of the United States of America and the bringing about of the one-world government. The authority cited for their efforts is Article VI of the Constitution, the United Nations Treaty, and the U.N. Participation Act of 1945 signed by Harry S. Truman with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate.
Carson Morgan
You don't own the internet
Luke Richardson
Sounds like it's almost 17:76 pm.
Jeremiah Cooper
For now.
Interestingly...
UN is in all US cities thanks to the "safe cities initiative"...
Internet control turned over to the UN...
UN 2030 is literally the most fucked up agenda I have ever seen.
Last but not least Obama plans to be Secretary-General of the United Nations.
Not to go full tin-foil here but...It is sketchy.
David Kelly
He's a fucking nigger
Ayden Bell
>Internet control turned over to the UN... ICANN is not the UN.
Logan Johnson
I'd prefer reading about the folklore behind this ceremony than edited simpsons stills of homer and bart smoking weed
Brandon Turner
...
Leo Campbell
thats it? That doesnt sound that bad, what else.
Where does the UN come into play?
Ryder Martinez
Ok dutchfag heres the thing...
They are ending a bureaucratic step by ceasing the commerce departments regulatory role. Fine.
What Is potentially an issue is "down the road". If ICANN seeks to give their new authority to a different organization.
There is no reason for a country like the US in a position of authority to simply cede it. Ownership should never be given away.
We aren't saying that THIS particular instance is troubling. We are looking down the road and trying to determine what the potential risks are.
As I understand it just about every large internet company approved of this. But their statements about it were platitudes. WHY do they all support this? Can we not raise our eyebrows and discuss this shit without your I know it all heres my ars technica link and condescending post replies.