Is Greece the worst country in Europe?

Fucking turks

>social
Lord have mercy

It's a beautiful country with amazing food and a rich culture.

Most Greeks I've ever met were friendly and chill, the only Greeks I've never liked were businessmen. In my experience, they are unreliable, corrupt and will do anything in their power to screw you over, more so than in other European countries.

Still, it's an awesome holiday destination and I hope they'll pull out of their depression soon.

The social part is just...I have no words lol

>statisticaly impossible to be NEET
kill me

Greekfags need to go work like now

Work where? There's no jobs and if you do get a job you get paid like 3 euros and hour

When it comes to economics and politics, yeah.

yes, germany should stop helping them and give us the money instead

Nice, come over here, our minimal wage is like 2€/hour and we have plenty of jobs opportunities

>when your country has lowest unemployment
>tfw when you realize its because we all slave for germans

>mfw finally got a job after 6 months of being NEET

poď pracovať ku nám, potrebujeme nového baču

Gj, you're officially not a gypsy

Not a bad idea.
The main issue with our economy is that there are no reforms being done and instead they're taxing the shit out of the citizens to pay for the loans... that the EU and IMF INSIST onn continuing to give us.
Unless that stops (which is not going to because Germany is making profit out of the interest rates), we'll be at the bottom of the barrel for ever.

I actually live in california cause it's much better but I go to greece 3-6 months out of the year for vacation

Cost of living is much lower though.

The problem with greece is the anti-business attitude of our retarded politicians. If you have a small business the state basically takes all of your income and if you have a big business bureaucracy makes it impossible to thrive.

I think the Junta back in the 1970s destroyed everything. Not only because they were incompetent, but because of them left wing politics and communism grew bolder and people had to decriminalize communism after the regime fell.

Before the Junta, socialist garbage had no place in greek society and the economy was growing by like 8% every year.

>Is Greece the worst country in Europe?

Is until Turkey gets in.

>gets in
>Europe is a continent

6 month vacation
Average Greek
No wonder Greece is in crisis

lol slovakia REKT

>"zlowagia" stealing our workers and still sucking ass

its always the czechs
stop bully
why does czechia hate us
no for real though every greece hate thread you're competing with the turks for most flame

Yeah, living is cheaper here, but 2€/hour is still barely enough

We had the socialism bullshit here for almost 40 years

I'm onto your government's Jewish tricks regarding the unemployment rate. You won't fool anyone dirty hun on an ugly horse

bbj.hu/economy/hungarian-employment-figures-seen-as-not-reflecting-reality_101733

mby because here everybody has to work as the graph shows, even though we get paid eastern-like and have western-like prices

Europe ? Hell no, not even debatable
EU ? Economically sure, in terms of cuckness they are pretty solid with in, but so is the whole European union, though
Still, Southern Europe is cultured, something 90 percent of the world could wish for

>western-like prices
mmmm i wouldnt say so
compare for yourself too
keep in mind most people in entry level jobs (students and young adults) get paid 300-700 (700 at best)

numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Czech Republic&displayCurrency=EUR

numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Greece

It's not just us, everyone hates you because you're bunch of lazy wankers

also once or twice a year, aside from regular taxation we have to submit a special (((tax))) which can go up to 3000 in some cases
and I'm talking about middle class families

we would be worse than greece if we didn't lose 10% of our population to emigration.

two words: NEET hatefrogs

>lazy wankers
n-no you

>we have to submit a tax

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that one
these last 5 years

>Plenty of job opportunities
>Casting couch related

don't tell me you haven't been paying it you nigger

Erdogan shill detected. Are going to invade your islands the same way you invaded Cyprus?

YOU'RE A BIG HERR

By order of crappiness:

1. Albania
2. Moldova
3. Ukraine
4. Belarus
5. Russia
6. Bosnia
7. Macedonia
8. Serbia
9. Montenegro
10. Romania
11. Bulgaria
12. Greece

Note that Turkey is not a European country... if it were it would be in second place after Albania.

absolutely this

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>Notice that all the countries with double-digits unemployment are countries that accepted the euro, despite being weaker than Germany is economically.

Germany - 4.2% has Euro
Malta - 4.8% has Euro
Netherlands - 5.8% has Euro
Denmakr - 6.2% has 1:1 exchange ratio with Euro, thus de facto adoption of Euro
Luxembourg 6.2% has Euro
Austria 6.2% has Euro
Estonia 6.8% has Euro
Belgium 8.2% has Euro
Ireland 8.3% has Euro
Lithuanua 8.6% has Euro

Half of the EA19 countries have an unemployment below the EU28 and half above.

It is a perfect statistically tie (the median unemployment in the Eurozone is the average unemployment rate in the EU), so that we can say the Euro has not caused higher unemployment.

>Playing democracy 3.
>Start game as president of Greece.
>Abolish all taxes.
>.... Still have tax evasion.

10/10 for realism.

...Russia?

Plus, them Moldovans got some fine ass bitchez

>the Euro has not caused higher unemployment.

Sure, since achmed can boost a corporate based economy by delivering kebabs

Greece is not to blame. The Euro is.

youtube.com/watch?v=B6vV8_uQmxs

Lads, serious question: Would you prefer it if the EU let you go bankrupt, like you've TECHNICALLY have been for the past 5 years or so, or would you prefer the EU save you with loans that Greece will be forced to pay back?

Tl;dr: Default, or pay back the gazillion million you owe?

Yes, the great invasion of İstanköy and Sakız islands soon.

>Euro is the cause for unemployment in Greece
>Not the fact that you people don't produce or create anything
>Not the fact that you BARELY grow anything
>Not the fact that your infrastructure a shit
>Not the fact that you people seem to be inherently lazy and unproductive
>Not the fact that your politics are a fucking joke, and your leaders bankrupted your state
>Not the fact that you have no idea what 'living within one's means' means
>Not the fact that you made yourself so unpopular in Europe people don't even want to go on vacation to Greece anymoe

No. The Germans did it all, amirite? Kek. That mentality is exactly why Greece will be a poor indebted shithole for times to come, likely longer than you'll live...

We already in default aquafresh.

>Greece will be a poor indebted shithole for times to come, likely longer than you'll live...

That gust of bawwww following the three dots hit me like I was a stray crossing the freeway.

First of all, I'm sorry I don't grow tulips.
Second of all, why you hurt?

Yes, but you're currently being saved by international money... What I mean is an ACTUAL default, in which all debts are resetted, and you more or less start over, but debt free.. Rather than having these IMF/EU packages that aren't really free but will ensure that your grandchildren's grandchildren will STILL be paying off the denbt.

>EU save you with loans
that is impossible
it's been said over and over again but no one cares because the eu is making money off the interest
it's like we're on perma-life-support, they're giving us a litre of blood and when we have enough strength to make one ourselves they take it away and give us one again

also, national debt isn't something you just "pay off"
economies don't exchange with money basically, they exchange with debt

that's the "currency" so to speak

t. business"jew"

>That gust of bawwww following the three dots hit me like I was a stray crossing the freeway.
I'm sorry your country a shit.
>First of all, I'm sorry I don't grow tulips.
Your loss, not ours m8... Tulips make a lot of money.
>Second of all, why you hurt?

I'm not hurt. Whenever I see Greeks posting about their denbts, Germany and/or the EU/euro I'm overwhelmed by this mix of hilarity, disbelief at so much denial and a little pity for you lads.

>that is impossible

The alternative is a full default though, and that will hurt.. Not forever, but for a few years at least.

>also, national debt isn't something you just "pay off"
>economies don't exchange with money basically, they exchange with debt

Yes. But nobody wants to exchange bad debt for decent debt... So you're still fucked in the end.

So you'd prefer fully defaulting?

>being saved

Nope we isn't. The banks are getting it, so they don't go bust, so they pay government employees their salaries, so these can tax whoever they can get their hands on.

The way things are, the state going default (meaning: no government salaries, no pensions) would only be for the best.

T*rkey would get in only after us PIGS, France, and practically all of the western states leave. And even then they'd probably still get vetoed by the Netherlands.

>toothpaste
>having any emotions
>not autistic

>So you'd prefer fully defaulting?

The only way to not default and our economy to get better is to leave the EU, but if we do, the IMF will declare default on us.

So yeah, no escape, we have to default probs.
But also we have to lynch a lot of politicians.

>Whenever I see Greeks posting about their denbts, Germany and/or the EU/euro I'm overwhelmed by this mix of hilarity, disbelief at so much denial and a little pity for you lads.

...And why just cannot help but post.

Come on Ruud Gulit.
Lie back on the couch, loosen the tie.
Relax and tell me about your childhood memories. Where did you go on vacation?

Turkey first applied to enter the EU in 1959, they became a candidate 40 years later and another six years later negotiations started. Ten years later and only one of 35 chapters of the EU policy that they have to accept has been closed. They're never getting in.

>Is Greece the worst country in Europe?
They just can't handle money.
They are used to bribes and to bribe everyone, so they spend much more money than they have. Also when they joined the Euro they gave themselves annual 10-15% salary increases like in the old times when there was still an inflation on. That led to them being the least competitive country in the EU, with wages for unschooled warehouse workers or truck drivers being double or even triple of what they are in a well-off country like Germany.

Everybody knew this wouldn't end well. But everybody wanted the money to keep coming, so it wasn't stopped in time.

Why aren't your people voting for the default or parties that will tell the EU to fuck off?

>Anglo

Why not leave the EU/vote for party that will leave the EU?

>...And why just cannot help but post.

That's boards are for you daft fucking cunt.
>He comes to a medium made for posting to post.. S-so b-butthurt amirite?
Ayy.

>Where did you go on vacation?

France mostly. Also just enjoying the environment here (I live in the prettiest region in NL), going out with our boat in the summer, you know.. Good life.

>Good life.
>Cred Forums

Try again.

>Why not leave the EU/vote for party that will leave the EU?
syriza was supposed to do it so leftist faggots voted for them but surprise surprise they turned out to be commie money grabbing power hungry opportunists with no integrity or any weight of word

they quickly became merkels pets

boop

>>Good life.
chan

I was not on Cred Forums when I was a child, user, can you not into reading comprehension? Not that my life is bad now, mind you... But youth is a beautifal thing.

>Try again.

Well.. You're here, right? Aren't you just projecting, my silly Greek friend?

Why do you always end up voting for power hungry money grabbing commies in Greece? It's like the story of your lives...

>Why aren't your people voting for the default or parties that will tell the EU to fuck off?

The current ruling party run on that campaign. And the grexit referendum was a clear result.
What came of it? Nothing.

Politicians lie, lie to get into government, then pursue different policies. Surely you don't have to look past the tulip fields to see examples of that.

Anyway. Did you have a greek gf anytime these last 50 years?

GIVE COSTANTINOPLES BACK YOU FUCKING ROACH REEEEEEEEE

>Why do you always end up voting for power hungry money grabbing commies in Greece? It's like the story of your lives...

because people are looking to get comfy
they're gonna vote for whoever will give them the most gibs and whoever can fix them up with a public sector job etc

boomer logic basically
it's starting to die down now though

>Anyway. Did you have a greek gf anytime these last 50 years?

No, I typically date blond girls, and I haven't been sexually active for 50 years (yet).

>Politicians lie, lie to get into government, then pursue different policies. Surely you don't have to look past the tulip fields to see examples of that.

Ours lie too, but if they lie too much they get sent home within 4 years or sooner.. This will be the first government to remain seated until the end of their term since a long time. The previous 4 or 5 governments all fell over their own lies and issues.

>because people are looking to get comfy
>they're gonna vote for whoever will give them the most gibs and whoever can fix them up with a public sector job etc

But, and correct me if I'm wrong, Greece looks anything but comfy from the outside right now.. Greece looks poor, broke and stressful.

>it's starting to die down now though

I'm hoping so for you lads..

Of course yes.
A country where everybody is lazy and procrastinate a lot is bad.

>all of the western states leave
I meant all of the eastern euro countries, fug.

>But, and correct me if I'm wrong, Greece looks anything but comfy from the outside right now.. Greece looks poor, broke and stressful.

individually comfy
corrupt comfy
they're buying voters with illegal lures

LEAVE GREECE ALONE

It's pretty neat being a NEET

prove it faggot mahmood

Didn't the junta ban a bunch of classical greek writings? They sounded like dicks; just like the thirty tyrants.

You guys to blame Greece only, but you do understand most of the problems Greece has today happened because EU politicians were too retarded to understand that you can't simply apply policies that work in Germany or Finland to a country which has a completely different culture and economy like Greece. Greece should never have joined the euro. And the same would apply to my country.