>Gilbert was tried for murder. Last Wednesday, a Texas jury ruled that his actions were legal. That’s because Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
>Texas A&M Professor Mark Hoekstra, who studies the effectiveness of lethal-force provisions in self-defense law, says the protection-of-property element of the deadly force law is “pretty unique to Texas.” Within Texas, however, the case was not unique. In 2010, the law protected a Houston taco-truck owner who shot a man for stealing a tip jar containing $20.12. Also in Houston, a store clerk recently killed a man for shoplifting a twelve-pack of beer, and in 2008 a man from Laredo was acquitted for killing a 13-year-old boy who broke into his trailer looking for snacks and soda.
>Texas law also justifies killing to protect others’ property. In 2007, a man told 14 times by a 911 operator to remain inside during a robbery gunned down two thieves fleeing from his neighbor’s house. (“There’s no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?” the operator said on the call. The shooter’s response: “The law has been changed….Here it goes, buddy! You hear the shotgun clickin’ and I’m goin’!”) He was acquitted the next year.
Don't B&E, don't get shot. Pretty simple really. When you consider how vastly empty parts of Texas are it's very understandable that killing a criminal who's fleeing would be for the best, you don't want some crooked fucker to hide out in the hills and murder you as you sleep because, from their perspective, you were rude enough to interrupt their robbery.
Jeremiah Howard
Based
You know why that law is there at night right? Because the chance of you ever getting your property back is much lower.
Gabriel Wilson
>Don't B&E, don't get shot Pretty hard when people are literally starving
Lucas Morgan
I should be able to shoot someone just for having Mexican license plates
Jason Mitchell
>barbarism
It's more barbaric to tell a private citizen he must cower and beg "please don't hurt me--all the money is in the jar" when someone is stealing from him.
Cameron Powell
>people are literally starving >in America I don't habeeb it
Joshua Foster
Killing people over property is the definition of barbarism
Cameron Gomez
>killing thieves is wrong
Maybe they shouldn't steal then.
Oliver Adams
Not everybody lives in your lily white suburb Maybe you should check your privilege
Juan Harris
>Pretty hard when people are literally starving
>stealing a tip jar containing $20.12 >shoplifting a twelve-pack of beer >looking for snacks and soda
If I'm starving to death and I'm in front of a taco cart, I would probably ask the owner for nearly expired produce rather than stealing his money or I'd probably shoplift a staple food rather than some beer.
Kayden Howard
Don't try to steal shit and it wouldn't be a problem would it?
Hudson Davis
No this is:
noun 1. absence of culture and civilization. "the collapse of civilization and the return to barbarism" 2. extreme cruelty or brutality. "she called the execution an act of barbarism"
Nathan Russell
And robbing it isn't?
Jose Morris
When you shill so hard you tell pol to check its privilege
Adrian Evans
yeah they're starving because they spend all their money on fucking jordans
Austin Morris
>absence of culture and civilization. I think killing people over property fits this >extreme cruelty or brutality. and this
No if you need to so you can survive Corporate ad campaigns brainwash people
Grayson Jenkins
>told 14 times by a 911 operator this means absolutely nothing dispatchers like to pretend they matter but they have no authority
Jayden Moore
>"you hear the shotgun clicking and i'm going!" fucking badass
Aaron Walker
So if someone stole your grandfather's watch you'd just wave to them as they ride off into the sunset? Because killing a theif is obviously more barbaric than thievery itself
Jose Gray
this is how it should be fuck thieves
Ethan Anderson
Killing people over property has been a defining characteristic of civilization since the beginning.
Joseph Hernandez
>I think killing people over property fits this
GREAT OPINION. Can I come to your house and rob you?
>and this It's cruel to protect your property? Make you are a faggot.
Ethan Jackson
>There’s no property worth shooting somebody over, OK
Oh boy, we have cucked 911 operators now. This is a disaster. Sad!
Kayden Kelly
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Tyler Jenkins
>Corporate ad campaigns brainwash people
So now it's not their fault they buy shoes? What else isn't their fault?
Juan Torres
I donated my grandfathers watch to the holocaust museum because he was a fucking fascist
Sebastian Bennett
>i take all your property >you die?
Obviously, you've never worked for the things you own. You've never had the products of your labor stolen. Rot in a pit.
David Williams
Well at least I know you're trolling now
Angel Davis
>le told 14 times
Good thing that citizen didn't heed the words of a cucked nigger faggot like that operator or OP.
Now two dead criminals and the guy still has his stuff.
Great world.
Noah King
based texas
John Perez
Entire country needs those provisions. It doesn't matter how little something is worth, other people aren't entitled to my property.
Bentley Edwards
so white people should be punished for prioritizing better then blacks?
you sound like a true liberal
Dominic Perez
>GREAT OPINION. Can I come to your house and rob you? Sure my parents are fucking Drumpf supporters I would laugh so fucking hard
William Reyes
As a Texan; Don't steal, don't get shot. The fucking nigs should get on welfare like the rest of them if they need food.
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Connor Thompson
>What else isn't their fault? Nothing lrn2 systemic racism
Nathan Rodriguez
Fortunately, there's a simple alternative: Don't steal people's shit.
Elijah Stewart
Barbaring is cutting someone's hair... baka...
David Bailey
>The law has been changed….Here it goes, buddy! You hear the shotgun clickin’ and I’m goin’! Based as fuck.
And no, I support this. I always assumed that I would be killed if I was dumb enough to try to break into my neighbour's house.
Easton Perez
It's pretty simple, really: Don't steal, and your chances of getting shot go down drastically.
Reminds me of when some people condemned the Korean shopkeepers who defended their stores, homes, and families against gangbangers and looters. Amazing what some basic training, even unpracticed for decades, can accomplish.
Aaron Edwards
Do you even know the amount of food that gets thrown out by restaurants and grocery stores thats still good? If you're "literally starving" then dumpster dive or go to a charity. They may not have laws that protect property down in Mexico but they do in Texas and its a model we should adopt throughout the states.
John Brooks
>government literally gives you money for being a nigger >still have to rob and steal shit cause you spend all your farechecks on sneakers and cell phones noose yourself you fucking nigger
Adam Evans
>Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
Good. If only the rest of the world had the common sense that Texas had regarding guns...
How hard is it to get this in your tiny heads: if you don't wanna get killed, then DON'T. FUCKIN'. STEAL!
Joseph Brooks
it's used to prevent them from fleeing the scene. there's nothing wrong with it and it's perfectly legal. also Texas is YUGE and its normal to drive for three hours and come across two 300 pop. towns an hour away from actual police and not just a sheriff
Jackson Sullivan
>Justify crime just cause you're poor. Get food stamps you retard.
Elijah Smith
>defend this barbarism
You mean protecting your stuff?
Easton Carter
>people not realizing how big Texas is >people not realizing laws like this exist for small towns where the nearest police might be 45 minutes out
William Sullivan
You're an intelligent white man, its hard to grasp your head around it but your average low IQ nigger thinks completely different than you and I.
They think very simply, only capable of processing a few thoughts at a time and pursuing them in a linear manner. Much of their life deals with satisfying immediate wants, like hunger, thirst, pleasure, and they are incapable of fully materializing the consequences of their actions.
Jace Scott
you cant live off food stamps
Asher Lee
>What are food banks >What are charities >What is work >What is growing your own food
Nigger.
Luke Jones
This man is a hero.
Jackson Bailey
it should exist even if police station is beside your home
chances that my 12 gage will recover my property as a thief is fleeing with it is 1000x more likely than the police recovering it
even a pack of beer is worth more than a thief's life
Michael Bennett
Mind your own business cuck, sincerely Texas.
Cooper Myers
then sell things. get a fucking job maybe? go dumpster diving, it's legal in Houston and all of Texas id believe unless there's a private property sign on the actual dumpster.
Leo Williams
Sure you can.
Brody Ross
>The customer, who has a concealed handgun >license, pulled his gun and made the three >suspects get on the ground.
Anyone against this hasn't ever been to rural texas. People out there live 45m or more from the nearest police station. If you can't shoot intruders legally, there would be no way to guarantee safety to yourself or your family
William Rivera
>don't steal anything >don't get shot
It's that simple
James Smith
It definitely should, I'm just clearing the air as to why the law was put into place
Jackson King
>steal from people >get shot
Ryan Edwards
Some Asian woman shot some armed niggers breaking into her home a week ago, she killed one. Fuck, my wife probably would've been cowarding and raped and our shit stolen in that situation. I should get her a gun.
good, can't wait till those laws are passed in leafland.
Who am I kidding, our politicians are too cucked for that.
Leo Martin
What seems to be the problem? The law is working, much better than others I might add.
Hunter Diaz
heres what you see > a Houston taco-truck owner who shot a man for stealing a tip jar containing $20.12 heres what I see >an owner shot someone for stealing heres what you see >a store clerk recently killed a man for shoplifting a twelve-pack of beer heres what I see >a clerk killed a killed someone for shoplifting heres what you see >in 2008 a man from Laredo was acquitted for killing a 13-year-old boy who broke into his trailer looking for snacks and soda heres what I see >a man killed someone who broke into his trailer
You are focusing way too much on the irrelevant details. The bottom line is stealing is wrong and we believe people have a right to protect their shit from being stolen and broken into.
Easton Reyes
We need those laws on a national level.
Chase Hernandez
Of course you can't when your selling them for drug money and then cry.
Jordan Cruz
(you)
Cameron Edwards
If you're calling that barbarism, you're a weak cuck who doesn't see a need to defend the lives and property of you and your community's.
Gabriel Harris
That's a violation of civil rights but a real cool one.
Cooper Russell
Stay in California and you won't have to worry about what Texas does. They don't want you there either.
Jackson Green
So what exactly is the problem. I read your whole spiel and found nothing wrong except when you implied that a man willfully shot two men with a shotgun after consulting the police phone operator about a robbery. Obviously all is taken out of context to highlight that he seemed excited at the chance to legally kill two men. The police should have a quicker response time at the time in order to avoid these situations.
Asher Foster
Welcome to Texas.
We'll shoot you here.
Asher Brooks
God I love texas
Jason Cooper
This is a bait thread, no one on Cred Forums thinks criminals have a right to live after breaking into a someone else's shit. OP is trying to sound like those California transplants in Austin that are not Texan and do not belong in this state.
Isaiah Clark
Fuck off fatass.
I am living on food stamps right now. You don't need to live off steak dinners every night.
Jackson Cooper
Not at all.
If you are ordered to exit your vehicle (due to probable cause of committing a crime or otherwise), an officer can break into your vehicle in order to apprehend you.
Christopher Long
we're just supposed to advise the person to do whatever they think would be safest for them. No actual authority
t. emergency dispatcher
Isaiah Nguyen
Letting people threaten your family and home without recourse is extremely shameful cowardice, and you should probably kill yourself for thinking otherwise.