Farc Peace Deal Fails

Can any Colombians tell me about why there is so much oppositions to this?

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>now a bunch of leftists will get blown away by Obama ironically enough
i'm ok with this

Not Colombian but I'd wager it has a lot to do with the fact that FARC is a drug cartel with communist revolutionary trappings.

columbians are worse than niggers

im serious, watch any documentary like narcos and you will see that its true

columbians are such fucknig animals that blacks are actually upstanding citizens in that country

The communists are the one's worse than niggers. But that happens in every country they establish themselves in.

Colombia needs a Pinochet.

This is a war we probably started or inflamed at some point, yes?

This. The deal provided amnesty to FARC leaders and promised them seats in the senate and a vote to get into congress. Pretty much validating them as a political party.

So uh how can a government not defeat rebels in 52 fucking years.

Based

No peace with commie drug dealers

Same way you guys couldn't deal with rice farmers in vietnam

FARC wouldn't have entertained the idea if they weren't up shit's creek.

> Venezuela, Cuba, nor Russia cutting them checks anymore
> 7,000 fighters left with no money to pay for the ones who die/desert
> Possible Republican admin looming that would give CIA blank check to wreck their shit

They know the end is nigh. And the Colombians rightfully didn't give in. They know the only good communist is a dead one.

We all do

Well we had a bit of protocol and scruples to deal with. Columbia could have just mowed them down without international backlash.

I meant that quite literally, though, FARC is a guerilla, so they have the advantage of not being as assembled and centralized as a full blown military, hiding in the jungle gives them a pretty big advantage so I'd imagine it's harder than "just mowing them down".

They should do what we did to our commies. Get a strong intelligence organism, figure out who they are and throw them all off helicopters.

Yes people were a bit arrogant, all confident, convinced yes would win.

But they should've been more open minded, more thoughtful, more humble, now we can truly start true peace negotations, to construct a true lasting peace.

>without international backlash.
Aktually.
The reason we haven't killed these sons of bitches is because other countries tell us that is inhumane, and they would nuke us (not literally), if we try to get rid of our own guerilla.

Make Peace not War. XDD?

They did the only thing they could do to keep from being turned into a socialist state by FARC and an influx of socialist-voting refugees from Venezuela.

There is no peace with communists.

Their ideas don't work and like every extremist in the end they will blame their failings on you

if it wasn't for the capitalist communism would work ect.. ect..

Yup, the UN would do to Columbia what they did to Rhodesia, and with identical results.

Hang in there as long as you can, guys, and hope the EU self destructs before they start dropping embargoes on you to help FARC take over.

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Looks like Colombians made the right choice today

Because Uribe love those american dollars so he wants to fuel war.

And ignorant people tend to follow this kind of "leaders".

You're a bit of an idiot. Violations of human rights do not help win wars, outside of dropping atom bombs. In fact, you've probably missed the little fact that many people ended up in FARC because of anti-communist massacres and repression.

Because Uribe is a moron, but he's a popular moron. Like Trump.

You don't get away from centuries of bloodshed and propaganda that easily. Especially considering that Colombians are the most blood-thirsty people in the continent.

Delicious leftist butthurt both here and on twitter

This. There were too kinds of voters today, the ones who wanted this war to end at once without caring if FARC got a better deal than they deserved, and the ones who didn't want FARC to get a good deal even it that meant to risk war.

Under normal circumstances the first ones would have won, but the hurricane caused a very low attendance from Northern departments that were a guaranteed "yes".

Of coursh. Look up Plan Colombia.

does any of these have anything to do with pablo?

Escobar's money paid for lots of these left wing terror groups types

But lots of his soldiers worked for right wing paramilitary groups as well

If there's peace then the drugs can easily move to the Us

>you're ignoraaant

every time

The deal was horrible: all crimes perpetrated by FARC would be pardoned while as a bonus they would get status of a political party.

Imagine a terrorist organization such as Black Lives Matter. Imagine they would murder 20,000+ people and in the end they are not punished and their crimes are forgotten. Not only that but they become a political party.

Because it's so difficult now, right?

there will be peace when the last commie dies

>be terrorist group
>kidnap, mutilate, murder, assassinate innocents, sell drugs for over 50 years in a jungle
>"my feet hurt, i wanna go home. can we get a slap on the wrist :3 ? oh also we want our own political party"

you you allow Osaba Bin Laden or ISIS form their own political party and treat them like innocent people?

That is some faggotry.

Kek, do leftists always have the same fucking response to everything? The fuck would you let a narco party into any legitimate power? Bless God for sending that hurricane.

"En Colombia, durante los ultimos diez años mas de 6,140 ninõs y ninãs han muerto em combate"

Translation: More than 6,140 kids died in combat in Colombia in the past 10 years.

youtube.com/watch?v=ILLfRGgjYXE

I mean, the US has pretty much done that for the Muslim Brotherhood

>The fuck would you let a narco party into any legitimate power?

Don't you know FARC makes billions of dollars per year in cocaine trade?
Cuba needs FARC money.

follow the money. See who is behind FARC.

All the little bitches that voted ''No'' watch the war from their living room.
The people that voted for peace, are the people that wake up amids gun fire every day, the people that get pushed around not just by the guerrillas but by the army as well, the people that can't get on with their lifes and progress because they have the army raping their daughters,stealing their crops, humilliating them. The colombian army it's perhaps worse than las FARC, they traffic just as much.
Just a month a go a police captain was captured because he had been trafficking for years.

Go ahead and pretend las FARC are the bad guys,when the paramilitar forces got a WAAAAY better deal less than a decade a go, and the paramilitars were by far the worst of them all, and every colombia knows it.

user is right, Ignorants won today and there is no other way to put it.
Pic related, these are the departaments with active conflict in colombia, They voted for peace, for obvius reasons.
The parts of the country that Voted ''NO'' never seen a guerrilla fighter in their life.

when commies gibblets are hanging for their own sport than we will have peace.

Porque crees que las Farc existe?
Las FARC empezo muchisimos años antes de que el narcotrafico existiera en Colombia, Y la razon es porque el estado esta compuesto por las mismas 8 familias de magnate turnandose en el poder, Miles de niños mueren incluso hoy en dia de hambre. Por eso existen guerrillas en colombia, Porque el estado es el peor criminal en Colombia.

Look up the crisis in La guajira, thousands of kids waiting for help,every year hundreds die of hunger, while La guajira is once of the richest states in Colombia, with the second biggest coal mine in the world.
These are the ''Good guys''

proxy, communist and redditor.

Do not give this guy (You). He ID is already in my blacklist.

Right-Wing parties here respect Mr. Pinochet

war is peace

>no arguments
>better call him a redditor

niggers from Brazil shouldn't be allowed on Cred Forums.

Que se siente saber que tu puto voto desde el exterior no sirvió para nada? En un país realmente civilizado no deberías tener derecho a votar para empezar, pedazo de mierda

Jajajajaja

Says the migrant scum

Confirmed

Esos miles de niños se seguirán muriendo de hambre si aplicáramos las políticas de las FARC, de hecho ya no serían miles, serían millones, así que su rebelión es totalmente injustificada. Ándele, a otro lado con su discursito, su "floro" comunista, mijo. Me hueles a rojo.

Even the huer huer have reason.

Do you think Esperanza Gomez voted? Is she a Colombian celebrity?

This same thing happened 20 years ago in Guatemala. After making a peace treaty with the Guerrilleros (left wing militia group), a plebiscite was passed on to the population to vote on wether the state should also provide amenities for the Guerrilleros.

The amenities that the Guerrilla wanted were almost identical to those of FARC. They wanted to receive Guatemalan land from the state as reparations from war. The Guatemalans voted NO too, mostly because the Guerrilla was composed of violent entitled pieces of shit who competed with the corrupt military on who was the biggest shit stain to the country.

No side was right, but the people wanted peace, not to give expropriated land the left wing militia. This compromised peace, because the Guerrilla could have continued the war. However, in Guatemala's case, that didn't happen.

No jodas huevon, esa no es una excusa. Si tal fuera el caso habrían militias en todo pais pues todo pais tiene una aristocracia que detenta el poder.

Se nota que eres uno de esos izquierdistas que consideran el terrorismo como una "lucha social"

Idiota, Harambe no murio por esto.

>hueles a rojo
A mi no me huele a rojo, es un zurdo bolchevique de mierda como tantos que habría que exterminar.

Hablan de otros astrosurfeando la guerra, cuando él mismo astrosurfea comunismo sin vivirlo en carne propia

Por culpa de esta mierda migrante es que los comunistas llegaron al poder en tantos paises

Deberían ser los primeros en ser colgados en una plaza pública, y sabes de dónde? DE LAS BOLAS

tldr; Colombia has nothing to worry about. The only difference between what happened in Colombia and what happened in Guatemala are drug cartels. That is a huge issue though.

No one joins a side that constantly get massacred with no remorse as long as they have other options. UN stepping halfway through the war when one side has the upper hand is the real human rights violation

yea you and/or russia

No war ends when the last soldier dies.
All wars end with negotiation.
The crimas of las FARC were horrible, So where the crimes by the army, las FARC surrended peacefully 30 years a go and formed a political party, the won seats in senate and congress and they were all murdered by the Army, police forces and paramilitar forces. (It was acknoledged by the goverment and they asked for forgivness but not a single official was convicted, go figure)
The colombian army traffics just as much as the guerrillas, kidnaps just as much and kills more.
This was peace for the common colombian that just wants to work and get on with their life.

I'm here for holidays nigger, stay poor, i'll be posting from singapoor in 2 weeks.

Y porque aplicariamos las politicas de las FARC?
Nunca dije eso, pero gracias por reconocer que el estado es tan criminal como las FARC.
aprenda a leer.

Encima él vive muy tranquilo en Australia

>Literalmente tienen un presidente guerrillero.
Deberiamos de exterminar uruguay.
URGAY always being a faggot.

white shirts and behaving like businessmen calling for peace, be aware: they are hiding their intentions.

Holy shit did he break the sound barrier?

>FARC
>drug cartel fashioning themselves as revolutionaries
>FARC__

Holy shit.

>colombia actually voted to live in a shithole

Sudacas never cease to amuse me.

>las FARC surrended peacefully 30 years a go and formed a political party, the won seats in senate and congress and they were all murdered by the Army, police forces and paramilitar forces. (It was acknoledged by the goverment and they asked for forgivness but not a single official was convicted, go figure)
Actually that was a different guerrilla, get your shit straight. I think that one was the M-19

>stay poor
Yeah, sure, poor, with the government (that I didn't vote btw) paying for my travel expenses, education and so on.

Enjoy your tour commie, hopefully it may be your last

¿Cuándo dije que el Estado es tan criminal como las FARC? Tú pintas la pobreza como la justificación de la existencia de las FARC, cuando el Socialismo a sido el creador de la pobreza, así que su lucha es injustificada, pero al reflejarlo así delatas tu simpatía, porque no lo vez como terrorismo, lo vez como lucha social, incluso para no perder quieres poner al Estado al mismo nivel con tal de no condenar a las FARC como los criminales que son. Que haya pobreza en Colombia no justifica lo que hicieron las FARC, a diferencia de lo que quieres hacer ver, porque además las FARC defienden algo que genera más pobreza y es criminal. Sorry rojo.

>Mujica
Now, now, don't insult me. The military here commited one and only one mistake, that Colombia almost made

Not killing every -last- one of them

Don't give him yous. The mexican in Australia is a communist propagandist.

You never, never discuss with communists. The only language they understand is violence.

They want to murder and destroy you at the same time they wear a white shirt calling for peace.

Wait, he is a mexican?
Is this shit real? I am being called a third worlder by this spic nimrod from a country where the same corrupt party rules straight for 90 years? This keeps getting better

The peace deal would have been a huge victory for FARC. They would have got land, money, power, and none of them would have gone to jail.

See what i meant with ignorants.

YOU NIGGERS SHOULD NOT BE TALKING OR PARTICIPATING IN SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Union_(Colombia)

I know about the m-19 dumbass, I literally was there when they surrendered.


I've had plenty of tours, paid by the goverment and by myself. Suck my dick.

Las FARC NUNCA abandonaron las armas y TODA las masacres fueron por que ELLOS INICIARON la guerra. Lo gracioso es que como estaban ARRINCONADAS, vinieron con esta estrategia del tratado de paz, que es parte de la estrategia de Alfonso Cano para llegar al poder ahora que ya no pueden seguir con la lucha armada. app.eltiempo.com/opinion/columnistas/carta-a-mario-vargas-llosa/16708814

Could Colombia try to get Russian support or would Obama spread peace through tactical weapons drops in FARCA controlled jungle, and letters of tolerance delivered by firebomb to Bogota?

People are pissed because the people who have been terrorizing them as they rape and pillage their way through the country for half a century in the name of the very people they rape and pillage are being let off scot free and rewarded for it.
Imagine if assad had just told isis they were cool now and gave them positions of power in the government.

"paid by the government" welfare bitch

I bet he is mexican or venezuelan. For the kind of love he has for drug dealers and his instability it seems he is mexican.

Mexicans are known to call other people niggers and sub-humans while having 95% of indian blood. Venezuelans on Cred Forums used to do the same but now things are really bad over there I bet they don't have access to internet anymore.

Why the fuck are you in Australia, you commie piece if shit?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Union_(Colombia)
THEY FUCKING DID.
How are you niggers so retarded? This is basic south american history....
Did you guys already finish highschool or are you legit a nigger?
I honestly don't know at this point. I'm arguing with idiots that don't even know the facts....

Colombia has no welfare jacinto retrasado.

God you're such a pussy

>someone disagrees with me
>better call him a communist shill instead of refuting his point
Sasuga Cred Forums

I honestly didn't know about that one, I beg your pardon in that instance

Oh, so you don't know.

Nah, he probably is argentinian

Weather has been having an unusual effect on voter turnout in historic votes this year. Neat

I'm not a commie, and I'm here for holidays.

I want to exterminate the guerrillas and the army but that's impossible, since I actually want solutions for my country, unlike fat weebos fighting from their computers,(you).

...

Lo gracioso es que tenían ese brazo político, pero sus guerrillas seguían activas y totalmente operantes. Nunca se rindieron ni pidieron perdon por los crímenes ni pagaron por ellos. Además es básica historia, lee lo que dijo el mismo Alfonso Cano. En la carta de Vargas Llosa está todo bitch ¿Te debe doler que tus amigos terroristas no puedan candidatearse para que los votes no?

"paid by the government" congobiano

Its what the Broad Front in Uruguay did, it operated as a fifth column to fuck the democratically elected government through propaganda while the MLN-T fucked it militarily

>I want to exterminate the army
You want to destroy your own cunt's army? How dense can you be?

>he probably is argentinian
Possible but I think he is a mexican.

In one post he posted about peace and then he rant about niggers and wanting to exterminate people.

That kind of instability is very common from them

dont care about this but anything that makes beaners cry like this must be a good thing

No. Me duele que mi pais siga en guerra por gente a la que no la afecta la guerra.

Que se supone que debia hacer la guerrilla entonces rendirse totalmente para que los masacraran como lo hicieron.... Acaso tu te rendirias si eso significara que tu y tu familia van a ser torturados y asesinados?
Muchos de los combatientes de la guerrilla son literalmente soldados pagos, no creen en communismo ni esas pendejadas, estan ahi porque no hay mas trabajo o estan obligados.

We should exterminated all when we had the chance m8

These are the only people crying in Colombia. The degenerates and drug dealers.

That's not welfare.
Goverments needs me and they pay for my services. Sorry I'm not a useless nigger like you my man.

>This is basic south american history....
Even in Uruguay, where we pride ourselves in our education, history stops being taught after the 1900s, literally. So I wouldn't be surprised other countries can't tell shit from beyond their noses

Everything I know literally comes from me actually studying a little bit of history on my own, obviously it has huge gaps

Not every country has the balls to do what Perú did in the 90s

Do any of you south American anons have a little, brown skinned sister with blue or green eyes that you would like to sell to me?

how do i have a sick time travelling through south america without getting cocaine shoved up my dick and narco guns shoved up my ass?

i hate tourist traps

Colombians have gorgeous traps. It's not relevant to OP but I just wanted to put it out there.

Do you even know shit about Colombia?
The army is the biggest trafficker in the country. Ideally I would exterminate all the criminals in the army and outside the army but that's not gonna happen, so best we can do is pace, and we couldn't even do that.

What's your job and how come it requires you to travel from time to time?

Are you a teacher or something? I am thinking you may be, because that's how I get my free travel tickets

He works for Johnson & Johnson

Because the Marxists literally get unelected seats in Parliament.

>stay in big cities
>stay only in the richest parts of the city
>go to costa rica instead.

we don't like commie guerrillas
pic related
they put a collar bomb to a woman who refused to pay an extortion
she died, duh
and our president Mr. cuntface wanted to give the country to those shitheads, but we said FUCK YOU
>libtard tears are delicious familia

¿Entonces porque no hay más trabajo me voy a hacer criminal, voy a secuestrar, matar y torturar inocentes? Cualquier persona que realiza un acto criminal debe pagar por lo que ha hecho. Piedad para el culpable es traición para la víctima. Deben rendirse y ser llevados a prisión y si lo merita, ejecutados. Mira la carta para Vargas Llosa, allí explica que eso no sería paz, sería entregar el país a criminales para que lo transformen en Venezuela o peor. Necesitamos paz, ¿acaso los sirios tienen que darle poder político a ISIS a cambio de que dejen las armas? Eso no es paz, además, nadie tiene el derecho de imponer totalitarismo sobre otro. ¿Qué mensaje dan, que se puede masacrar y luego salir impune y encima postular y que te aseguren curules en el Senado?

>a real collar bomb
holy shit columbia I am impressed

This colombian gets it

>libtard tears are delicious familia

Are the tears of our farmers and kids delicious too famelan?
Seems like we also hate them, it's cool to be edgy from the city. Go to Cauca, or putumayo, live there for a couple months and let me know.

They just want to sell drugs in peace. Every drug dealer has the right to sell their products without being bothered by the army.

Government paying muh travels for spreading leftists ideas. Government only should pay for police, courts and military, anything else is welfare

I know its not a first world country but if the terror times return to Colombia, Ecuador is ready to take as many of you sexy refugee colombian girls as possible...huh .... the men can come too, i guess....

Colombia has a right wing party in power, we have no welfare AT ALL.
They're not paying for my holidays.
But they pay me to travel to shit countries like peru and be a consultant for the embassy.

Shit like this is why nobody takes Yes voters seriously, the process didn't end with the No vote, it was just damaged temporarily

Uribe and his ilk will now be at the negotiation table and the FARC will be forced to accept quite probably humilliating terms, which I agree with

Or they'll be destroyed, whichever comes first, I personally feel little sympathy for them, which from your standpoint should be good, you would do well to expect me to feel none

>,every year hundreds die of hunger, while La guajira is once of the richest states in Colombia, with the second biggest coal mine in the world.
>These are the ''Good guys''
The motherfuckers up there receive the gibs and don't fucking use them. The politicians try to set up hospitals and the indians won't let them.
Nobody wants to invest in the Guajira anymore. They're Colombia's drunk natives.

First of all, Narcos isn't a documentary you dumbass. Second, Columbia is a beautiful and captivating country. There's a lot more at play then you can wrap your small penile mind around.

>welfare
In the case of spreading pro-FARC ideas it's lucrative.
About 70% of world's cocaine comes from them.

>or go to Australia
shut up cunt
you lost
I won

Oh trust me, Colombia's party is not right wing enough for the region. Colombia should have Uribe still up there, and Keiko in Perú, and some filo-Pinochetista in Chile, and so on and so forth

I'll be honest, I won't be satisfied until every damn last filo-communist is in the sea with cement-shoes for all the crimes they've commited and whatever they are yet willing to commit

Look up who Uribe is.
He is literally worse than las FARC.

Also he cut a sweet sweet deal for his paramilitar and narco friends just a few years a go.
Not only did these paramilitar got money, land and didn't have to pay for their crimes, but they continued trafficking and back in bussiness right away.

Pic related

>it's cool to be edgy from the city. Go to Cauca, or putumayo, live there for a couple months and let me know.
You mean go to the towns that the guerrilla owns, and don't hate them?
Guess what. The ones who come to the city were stolen everything and the ones who stay became the guerrilla's milking cows. The rest, well, those ARE guerrilla.

polls btfo

You're just one of those nu males progressive cucks who's just giving opinions out of feelings. First of all in theory they should have been killed, and as a matter of fact they were getting their asses kicked. Uribe has those animals pushed the fuck into the jungle and was heavily closing their scape routes to the borders.

Everyone knows before Uribe you could not travel within the country through land. Everyone knew the civilian population was getting bombed and there were constant terrorist acts against the infrastructure.

After Uribe all those started to fade away to the point in which it was safe to travel throughout most of the country. You very well know this so don't try to deny it.

The problem is an interest in conflicts here on the cocaine trade. Uribe was obviously with the paramilitaries who also export cocaine. I'm sure the production of coke didn't cease to exist while Uribe was taking over, because his group were taking over.

To summarize it, it's all a shithole and it is a narco state. But I would rather have the right and capitalism rule Colombia instead of goddamn communists.

Third world leftists are completely different to first world leftists. The former actually want to change the status quo, what make them enemies of the free market rather than allies. To be fair, the FARC has been a drug cartel for so long that they're capitalistic now

yeah, im not Colombian but the FARC killed over 200k people. that's plenty of animus. people don't reconcile easily. think the south will rise again. some of those faggots still arbor confagerate flags n all

There was a hurricane the suppressed the cuck vote apparently.

Los paramilitares literalmente desmembraban todas sus victimas con motosierras.
Te acusaban de comunista por no contribuir con su operacion de narcotrafico. No es que uribe este encontra del comunismo, Es que son la competencia en el negocio.
Asi de simple. A Uribe le vale verga la politica, por eso cambia de posicion cada 2 años. Lo que le importa es sacar la competencia del negocio y conservar las millones de hectareas de tierra que consiguio gracias a la guerra. Ya que si hubiera paz esas tierras serian devueltas a los legítimos dueños.

>To summarize it, it's all a shithole and it is a narco state. But I would rather have the right and capitalism rule Colombia instead of goddamn communists.
There we go, the best summary of the last 50 years of politics in Colombia.

Its just excuses

Just like 75% of people under 30 didn't vote in Brexit. Liberals are losers

Ignorance speaks. Right now we have a traditional bona fide neoliberal in power

i'm enjoying watching videos of butt hurt beaners crying over getting btfo

95%?

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BTFO

I'm surprised the only guy in the thread that knows what's up it's a fucking gringo.

You're right, But peace wouldn't have meant the guerrilla taking over, they were getting 10seats out of the 120 seats in the senate,
That's it. Peace would have meant that the lands in the hands of Uribe and friends would be given back to the rigthful owners and farmers who had to run from their homes.
War is a lucrative bussiness for Uribe, of course he doesn't want it to stop, ever.

Mirá, para mi el cálculo es cruel, pero sencillisimo.
Mientras la izquierda siga librando sus guerras en contra de nosotros, sólo puede haber una solución: llamese paredón, zapatos de cemento o como sea.

No me importa que el diablo en persona sea mi aliado, y lo digo en nombre de buena parte de la 'derecha' latinoamericana que 'piensa' así

Cuando yá no exista la izquierda... ahí hablamos, pero mientras existan los gusanos que pretendan que los idolatren como Mujica y demás, que pretenden ser perdonados y adorados como heroes? Gracias pero no gracias

Uribe será un criminal, pero para mi representa la esperanza de una latam LIBRE de Comunismo, PURA y con ORDEN

Estoy de acuerdo sin embargo que miles seguiran pudriendose en la carcel por crimenes por drogas, mientras los verdaderos capos siguen impunes y toda el demás verso

The majority of beaners voted for not having peace with the criminals so that mean a minority is butthurt

>brexit vote is to leave
>uk stays anyways

>colombia votes to stay in a war
>gov says theyll end it anyways

Whats the point of voting?

>No war ends when the last soldier dies.
>All wars end with negotiation.

bullshit. plenty of wars end because one side gets their shit kicked in so hard that they're on the brink of annihilation and have to accept any demands made by the other side.
see:
>germany in WW1
>ottoman empire in WW1
>france in WW2
>germany in WW2
>japan in WW2
>serbia in the kosovo war

This Right-wing governments are very pro welfare and statists. Also, a Governments gets cucked by a Communist guerrilla, somehow is a Right-winger. Well, to be fair, it's a "cuckservative" hahahaha. Also, greetings to Colombia for the victory of No, but a COLOMBIAN calling shitty country to a Peruvian. Well, that's funny. If I remember correctly, WE ACTUALLY DEFEAT SHINNING PATH.

Can somebody nuke us pls?

Thanks, we do not deserve to be part of this world.

No se negocia con matones, hay que iniciar una guerra contra esos malparidos, que atentaron contra el pueblo del dorado. Hay que matar a Timochenko con bombas atómicas yanquis por todo lo que hicieron.

Did all nazis die during WW2?
There u go ahmed.

The guerrilla is accepting terms they would have never dreamt of agreeing to 20 years a go.
what they're offering now it's a good deal.
To get them to completly surrender won't happen for at least 5-10 more years, billions of dollars and at least 100k more deaths.
We could have peace right now for less than 50 million dollars, no more deaths and all we have to agree to is something that is a fact, That some people agree with the guerilla and they should have a saying in our democracy.
10 seats out of 120 could be detrimental but won't turn colombia into Venezuela.

BAD, BAD GOYIM!

Me daba rabia ver como los progres celebraban que la FARC iba a poder participar en las elecciones. Me hizo recordar como los progres de Perú apoyaban por lo bajo a Sendero Luminoso. ¡Hipócritas de mierda! Tanto hablan del pueblo pero los terrucos eran los peores enemigos del pueblo. Cada vez que los progres colombianos aparecían en las noticias sentía asco y vergüenza ajena. Muchos simpatizantes de sendero siguen libres y nunca sufrieron repercusiones

what are you on about? They're still in it atm, but are they not going about the process of leaving?

Good work Colombia. Now finish the job properly, like the Sri Lankans did with the Tamil Tigers.

Acá en Uruguay, hay gente que se fué del país durante el proceso Cívico-Militar y que recibió jubilaciones gratis por no hacer ni mierda nada en sus putas vidas y ser zurdos

Ni mierda nada, excepto vivir en Suecia, Holánda y otros lugares, como verdaderos duques

No hay que perdonarles nada, hay que matarlos a todos a la primera oportunidad

Pensar que si salia el si, Colombia literalmente se ponía de rodillas y le hacia sexo oral a las farc.

>That some people agree with the drug dealers and they should have a saying in our democracy.

>and gave them positions of power in the government.
Thats something that would actually work

>Did all nazis die during WW2?
they probably would have if they demanded to have a say in the peace deal at all. but they recognized that their full defeat was inevitable, so they offered a full and unconditional surrender.

and that's the only acceptable outcome of this civil war against a bunch of fucking narco commie rebels. anything less than that, and they WILL keep starting shit, and find new ways to fuck up colombia in the future.

The latest is
>The UK will begin the formal Brexit negotiation process by the end of March 2017

It will just get pushed back and they'll continue negotiating with the EU until they end up staying.

Sri lanka is a small country, the guerillas in Colombia could go on with the war for literally centuries, thanks to the USA and their insatiable appetite for drugs.
It's been 60 years of war, and it seems like it's going to be 60 more.
I hope Farc manages to bring war to the cities so all the faggots that voted NO, feel what the people that voted yes has been suffering for half a century.

Delcious libtard tears. May our lord emperor Uribe command us to victory the next 20 years.

Is the colombian government actually that weak that they need to make treaties with a drug cartel?

Am I missing something? Why don't they just arrest/bomb them?

Timoshenko pensó que se le iba a perdonar todo lo que hicieron fácilmente. Mereces la horca, y todas las ratas de la FARC.

Human Rights

Dude, our goverment is full of drug dealers too....

Literally everyone and their grandma trafficks drugs in colombia....
our last president is known for having links to Pablo escobar... His dad was killed in a drug deal that went wrong....

Can someone resume what's happening? Didn't follow any of this shit.

People who fled the rural areas go to the cities where they voted YES faggot

we've been doing that for 60 years.
Also the colombia goverment is literally a drug cartel....

We already did that but the vicious cycle of war economics makes it impossible to end it. This country was founded to be destroyed itself without actually doing it completely for its sustainability. Eternally cucked by ourselves and our burger masters.

Lo importante aquí es que estos resultados no van a hacer que volvamos a la guerra, sino van a conducir a que Santos vuelva a la mesa de negociaciones con las Farc esta vez incluyendo a la derecha.

By now, I am starting to believe you are just shilling

The deal went down because of the ignorance of our own people. Despite we are living in a shithole, despite we are ruled mainly by corruption, violence, racism and ignorance, some of us wanted the peace. We wanted to have one enemy less for Colombia. Other important point is the conservative nature of the people, and their lack of acceptance, hatred, racism and lack of tolerance rules most of colombians. People are fucking racists assholes, that are not open-minded and mentally abled to think by their own. They only think for what Facebook, Twitter, Uribe or other politician said. I am ashamed of our lack of reasoning.

>Also the colombia goverment is literally a drug cartel....

Comfirmed to be a leftist retard

Who is she

>surrendering to communist rebels because you live on the front lines
Seem's pretty ass backwards if you ask me.

The most conservative pro-war people in old South Africa, for instance, were the people right on the Angolan Border who saw terrorism daily.

What's funny in your post is how it reads like something I just saw on twitter from some butthurt liberal

>Colombia it's been in war for 60 years
>Narco groups fighting each other
>Narco group that won the elections negotiates with the guerrillas for peace
>proposes a plebiscite for peace
>people vote NO
war continues
protip: war would have continued regardless, so not much to see.

>Everyone is a drug dealer
>Drug dealers are a problem
>But first let's give a drug cartel political power

Such a good goy that George Soros will consider you one of them even if you don't follow the Sabbath

Nice bait faggot.
Made me reply 3/10

Nice one dude

What exactly would this deal entail? Giving up land to FARC on an official basis?

>and the ones who didn't want FARC to get a good deal even it that meant to risk war.
Aren't they already waging war on your legitimate government? These people are thugs, once you capitulate they won't stop.

Enserio negro?

Te invito a revisar todos los presidentes de colombia, revisa sus apellidos. Son los mismos 8 apellidos durante 200 años.
Eso te dara una idea de lo pendejo que eres.

>government recognizes FARC as a legitimate political party
>they all come out of hiding
>government genocides them once they are exposed

I've seen Narcos thats how it will work once they nullify this vote

>>Narco group that won the elections negotiates with the guerrillas for peace


Stop this. What are your proofs about the santos link with drug business?

dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/522192/wardrobe-malfunction-playmate-playboy-daisy-lea-sean-stewart

you dont supposed to deal with criminals. Well voted Colombians. You need to start a war vs the criminals, and nuke them all instead of drink a cup of tea with cookies, and talk about peace.

Letting them have rep spots in the parliament too, without being elected. Now that's a beauty

Yes actually. He funded MS19 early on, which had connections with FARC if I'm not mistaken.

>But lots of his soldiers worked for right wing paramilitary groups as well
That was after he went into hiding and his empire was being dismantled by Los Pepes (praise kek).

Y eso justifica todo lo que las Farc hicieron?

>hope Farc manages to bring war to the cities

Im actually not kidding. Yes. Both sides (goverment and FARC) have fucked up. But its not possible to set a difference if the people its not open to the sacrifice and new idea of including those who didnt had their same chances or ideas. You can see the UP. Or the Buenaventura comunnity

It's like you're implying we should legalize drugs.
I'm ok with that.

Most NO voters dont want war, but peace with a better agreement

>Turning the country into an official narcostate is how to fix the civil war problem
wew

That's a maaaaaasssive difference. FARC has a financial incentive to keep warring.

Well, to be honest, Colombia is a narcostate, if you listen to this leftist numbskull parroting on the thread

Not true at least in the past 15 years

That's why I said "official". It's not really a narco state technically. Panama under Noriega, that's a narco state. Politics is massively corrupted, but a criminal enterprise is not the official ruling entity.

I said, if you listen to the leftist numbskull, didn't I?

FARC members who trafficked drugs would be off completely scot-free, and those who commited crimes against humanity (such as the massacres of natives, peaceful civilians, women and children, rape, torture, extortion, theft, etc.) would only have to serve between 2 and 4 years in landmine removal (rather than prison);

FARC were granted 5 seats in the Senate and 5 in the Chamber of Representatives, no matter how many votes they had in elections, and would get the lion's share of political party funding (which is otherwise proportional),

FARC wouldn't have to fork over any of the money they've earned over fifty years of drug trafficking, ransom for kidnapped civilians, and extortion of peasants,

Every FARC member would be given a salary for two years plus lump sums of money of 2,000,000 pesos when they turn over their guns and 8,000,000 pesos if they want to start a business,
Around half of FARC membership stated they wouldn't demobilise,

Imagine your President offering even one of those terms to a domestic terror group in America

And if after 52 years of failed attempts to erradicate them they crawl again into the same acts of violence? After all this time fighting to get them out of the view, we cant get rid of them. Then its necessary to take a plan B. Not to fight fire with fire. Instead, have a deal with them. And yes, there were several points of the agreement that were fucked up. But its necessary to swallow some things if peace, equality and a better society wants to be.

>FARC is a marxist-leninist terrorist group
>They should have a voice in our democracy

Sweden-tier brainwashing in this thread

To be honest, you are a narco state when the US government says you are a narco state

... You get what I am talking about?

You don't represent this shithole country faggot, we are all in or all out. The "No" had to win or polarization will just keep going. This is what our war emperor delegated on us, he's the voice of reason and what will end up fucking him up at the end. So, don't call others ignorant cause they don't want what you want or think like you do, that's literally fascism you retard fuck face cuck. This is the time for reasoning and shit to hit the fan, it will be glorious.

Usted como cree que empezo las FARC?

las FARC empezo muchisimo antes de que existiera el narcotrafico.
las FARC es la respuesta de la gente del comun a las atrocidades de la familias, Santos, vargas,pastrana, lleras.
vease; masacre bananera.
Es injustificable lo que el estado o cualquier grupo armado en Colombia ha echo. Pero pretender que El estado es menos culpable o criminal que la guerrilla es ridículo.
Incluso hoy en dia capitanes y generales de la policia son capturados por narcotrafico.
Como el ex jefe de seguridad de Alvaro uribe que hoy se pudre en una prision en estados unidos por narco trafico, Fue general de la policia bajo ordenes de uribe por 8 años y fue su jefe de seguridad. Uribe no tenia idea de que ese marica traficaba? NO SEA TAN GUEVON.

Delicious leftist butt hurt on NPR twitter.
twitter.com/NPR/status/782726067274547200

>peace, equality and a better society

Same language as Georoge Soros
twitter.com/georgesoros/status/781844361457917952

>There is no greater force than peace to create open, free societies. Colombia has an historic opportunity this weekend.

>Imagine your President offering even one of those terms to a domestic terror group in America
This actually doesn't sound so farfetched.

>I hope Farc manages to bring war to the cities so all the faggots that voted NO
It's the risk we took dummy. Didn't you listen to Santos:
>"In case No wins we go back to war and they are going full urban, intelligence told me".

He just got caught bluffing.

>muh tierra, paz y libertad
Muerete de una vez por todas, Lenin

Los orígenes de las Farc y sus motivaciones iniciales no justifican todo lo que se hizo: Ni los secuestros, ni las extorsiones, ni los atentados, ni las minas, ni nada.

Es como la gente que justifica a los paracos diciendo que al principio solo querían defender a gente que ya estaba cansada de los secuestros de las farc

I'm afraid Santos will make sure FARC punishes the cities who voted no.

He is a narco puppet

Oh, I dare him to, imagine that, throngs of people clamoring for Centro Democratico's people to get elected and to bring down the hammer

Shit man, thought I was a loner here. Saludos

Just don't descend into anarchy long enough for Trump to become President. With the level of surveillance tech we have we could help you locate and destroy drug labs and other FARC assets.

No amount of war will fix this problem, the cancer has to be cut out from the source. Much like cutting ISIS off from their oil. What you guys really need is a Pinochet to throw these motherfuckers out of helicopters.

Y porque los paracos recibieron un proceso de paz con mejores garantias que la guerrilla?

Es que... el dotor uribe... esque usted no entiende... No sea marica.
La paz hubiera significado que no pueden tapar la verdad con pantallas de humo por la guerra, Hubiera habido un proceso de re distribucion de tierras que hubiera mostrado la profundidad de la corrupcion en colombia y QUIENES se beneficiaron por años de la guerra.

Well, i agree that some of the arguments of the NO were pretty rigth. But most people were choosing NO without even knowing what were they signing for. They were following the wrong reasons. They literally thought they were going to "deliver the country to las FARC" so majority of people know shit. The same goes for those whom voted YES.

What hashtag would this belong to on twitter? Want to see butthurt.

Today was election day in Brazil. PT (the biggest leftist party) had such a massive defeat that it will take decades for them to recover.

They are so desperate and so fucked up they are thinking to close their doors and migrate to another existing leftist party.

In Sao Paulo every, I mean every single district voted against them. Rich, poor, miserable, favela niggers, middle class. They lost every single district.

Such a beautiful sunday

Los paramilitares no recibieron bancas en el parlamento sin votar

colombiadecide

Are you somehow insinuating that Pinochet was, in any sense, a neoliberal?

>id
>diaper

Las FARC nunca surgieron en respuesta de la gente común. Los campesinos no quieres vivir bajo un régimen comunista, no quieren ni nunca lo quisieron, si hubieran querido las FARC hubieran triunfado. ¿Cómo un movimiento comunista puede representar a la gente común? El comunismo le quita el pan de la boca a la gente común. La gente común quería otra cosa, quería tierra y libertad. Las FARC eran un grupo de sanguinarios megalómanos. Pero el hecho de que tú creas que hayan surgido del hombre común revela que afecto que les tienens y cómo piensas que son luchadores sociales. Jajaja, ¡aunque se los podría exterminar a todos enseguida tú preferírias darles poder político con la excusa de la paz, aunque extyerminarlos signifiacara más paz! Otra cosa, que el Estado sea criminal como lo pintas y aristocrático no justifica su rebelión, porque sus ideas eran más de lo mismo, pero allí está la cosa TÚ NO CREES QUE SON MÁS DE LO MISMO, TU CREES EN SUS IDEAS, te engañas tal vez diciendo que no eres tan radical pero sientes que en esencia tienen razón. Te digo algo, no lo tienen, y los pobres del mundo lo saben.

Why is there an opposition to making drug cartels a political party in order to instill "peace"? I don't know, my fellow burgerbro, you tell me.

Porque ellso no tenian ninguna intencion politica ademas eso si hubiera sido ridiculo considerando que ellos solo eran narcos y nada mas.
Pero encambio si recibieron MAS DINERO, MAS TIERRAS Y 0 CONDENAS.

Y si el problema son 5 puestos en el congreso y 5 en el senado, dejeme explicarle como funciona.
El senado tiene 120 puestos
el congreso tiene 200.
Con 5 votos no puedes hacer NADA.
Simplemente le da una opcion politica a los comunistas de colombia, que son bastantes, nos guste o no.

Ni te calientes, es un shill de la guerrilla, un concern troll

Thank you for accepting this country its in both sides ignorant and we are all cucked.. by ourselves again.

Night.

speaking of which I gotta go pee

-Con 5 curules no haces nada
-5 curules simplemente le dan voz a los comunistas de Colombia
Total contradicción. Puta pero se te nota que eres recontra comunista, mejor admítelo.

Las guerrillas comunistas Solo empezaron durante los 50. Antes de eso Colombia tenia Guerillas Liberales Y CONSERVADORAS.
Pero gracias por mostrar su ignorancia, y abrir la boca sobre asuntos de los que no tiene la menor idea. Espero aprenda su lección.

I doubt Trump. He's just another skype's puppet

You're welcome user. Night

>Guerillas
>CONSERVADORAS

South America really is the inspiration to a lot of the Fallout Games.

Precisamente pruebo mi punto, que eran MAS DE LO MISMO sin embargo TU DICES QUE ERAN LA VOZ DEL HOMBRE COMÚN, pero NO DICES eso de las guerrillas liberales y conservadoras. COMMIE DETECTED

Ah, yá pensaba que no me ibas a responder más.

>Con 5 votos no puedes hacer NADA.
>Simplemente le da una opcion politica a los comunistas de colombia, que son bastantes, nos guste o no.
Y sin embargo esto no es justo.

Sabes que sería justo? Que se abriese un proceso mediante el cual lo comunistas pudieran presentar listas al congreso/parlamento o como le llamen allá

No entregarles bancas al santo pedo, por decir algo

Mirá que no me opongo a que los izquierdistas tengan representación, solo a que la tengan sin haberselas ganado. Más allá de todo mi odio hacia el izquierdismo que haya expresado

Y también está el temita de la plata que les van a dar por algunos años, que debería ser de total público conocimiento y demás cosas, pero que en realidad no me preocupan tanto como las bancas

>Commies be negotiated with.
I miss AUC, I want them to be relevant again.

For the record 'Conservatives' do, indeed wage Guerrilla wars, like they have in my own country

For further reference, read about my political party, the blancos, or better known as the National Party of Uruguay

...

Negro, esas guerrillas nacieron por las masacres y brutales represiones a la democracia por parte de la elite colombia. 8 familias que se han turnado la presidencia atravez de 200 años.


>GUERRILLAS
>CONSERVADORAS

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Chulavitas


>BRAZIL
>NO RETARDED
that took me 20 seconds on google.

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolución_de_1904

'Conservative guerrillas' here too

Happiest day of my life

with how much murders they done in Columbia the only real peace deal would be for them to cease to exist.

That (((hurricane))) really only was a problem in la guajira, it didn't even rain here

Haber, hay varios puntos aquí.

Por la plata no me preocupo en lo absoluto, sino cómo putas harían ellos para sostenerse dado que no tienen nuevos ingresos? Asi que prefiero que les den una salario (90% del salario mínimo durante 2 años creo) mas incentivos económicos si van a crear una empresa, prefiero todo eso a que esten trayendo mas inseguridad a las calles. Por otra parte, está lo de los curules y esaa mierdas. Si, les deberian dar algo mas de participación politica. Pero si se les da más, ya no seria del todo justo. Aquí se les esta dando la oportunidad de incursionar en la política y ver cómo se desenvuelven con tan poco reconocimiento. Otro problema vital es la inclusión en la sociedad. Si no aceptamos a los gays, a los de ideales diferentes y demas, como putas los vamos a aceptar? Y si, yo sé, la han cagado con atentados y resto de mierdas, pero a pesar de eso, son ellos los que dan la mejilla para que les den caza al estilo de la UP. Ellos estan realizando un salto de fe con beneficios. Eso es todo

I and many others have done a LOT of research on this subject, and I don't believe it to be the case. Also he basically told AIPAC to fuck off right in their faces.

nO NACIERON POR NINGUNA MASACRE NI POR QUE SE TURNABAN EL PODER. Así no hubiese habido masacres, era megalómanos que querían tomar el poder por su ideolo´gia comunista de la Revolución Mundial y toda esa patraña. La lucha armada y toda esa cojudez, se iban a rebelar pase lo que pase, pero tu les atribuyes algo único, que ellos representaban al pueblo y que por las masacres actuaron, que gracioso ¿por qué no dices lo mismo de otros movimientos? Los comunistas tenían planeado expandir su ideología a todo el mundo, ellos no estaban conectados con el pueblo, porque si estuvieran conectados con el pueblo sabrían que el pueblo no quiere lo que ellos proponen, ellos utilizaron las masacres como excusa, SE IBAN A REBELAR SÍ O SÍ POR LA TEORÍA MARXISTA DE LA LUCHA DE CLASES. Pero tú LES ATRIBUYES UNA CONEXIÓN INEXISTENTE CON EL PUEBLO, QUE FUE POR ELLOS QUE SE REBELARON, CUANDO NO FUE ASÍ. Se nota que te gusta su programa, tal vez no seas tan radical, pero los consideras luchadores sociales y piensas que la lucha armada en su é´poca estuvo justificada y que la pobreza es la causa de la existencia de los movimientos de izquierda (jajaja cuando es al reves) se nota que tienes todas estas ideas. Por eso te duele tanto la derrota del no.

Yet, Mexico recieved refugees from Uruguay and Argentina when they needed. I cant recall the last time Mexicans went down there asking for asylum.

>es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolución_de_1904

Although these days it is 100% drugs with communist imagery. Few if any of them are actually communist.

PT is dying but PSOL is growing. Brazilians are so dumb they don't see it's the same shit or even worse.

FARC are drug trafficking Communist terrorists.

US is to South America what Great Britain was to China/India. We learned a lot from dear old Dad.

Yeah, I know, the internets does not take tildes nicely and revolution has a tilde on the o in spanish

God knows why they didn't name the page revolucion instead

Where are you from?

The people who voted No were southerners. Northerners who watch from their televisions were the ones who wanted to vote Yes but the hurricane suppressed turnout

Should have looked at the flag before I responded.

¿Por q no dices que los liberales surgieron de las masacres eh? ¿O que los conservadores surgieron por la falta de Cristiandad, que se yo? ¿Por qué a esosmovimientos les atribuyes razones concretas y no ideológicas y a las FARC al revés? ¿Será porque idealizas a las FARC? ¿Y deswde cuando los comunistas son muchos? Son sololas Farc, a pero allí está tu gente jajjaa Y revisé eso de las 8 familias, anda a otro con ese floro, eso es falso.

Yes. What's your point?

Are you a qt3.14?

>fucknig

Apt.

I'm done.
Colombia had a chance to move foward and allow people to be productive and work without getting fucked in the ass by either the army or the guerillas and they voted no.
Seems like most people in the thread agree with that, If you do. You'll be able to see how fucking wrong u were in the years to come.
Good news is, it won't affect you all, so you can see people die and suffer, from afar. comfy in your bedroom.
Good job tho, you sure are a hero of decency and a champion of justice.

Not at all. Why?

>Yet, Mexico recieved refugees from Uruguay and Argentina when they needed
You can send them back if you want, actually, send them back tagged in bags if you want, I don't wanna have anything to do with the (quite probable) commies that went to Mexico

Te entiendo, pero Colombia no debería ser tán tierra de nadie, que un país extermine gente pacifica por no estar de acuerdo con sus ideas no tiene nombre.

Los comunistas y socialistas siempre tuvieron partido político legal y bien constituido en Uruguay, y a nadie le importo nunca un pito hasta que empezaron con los paros, con las guerrillas y todo lo demás

Y ahora que se dejaron de guasadas, y que se achancharon en el poder, ván a volver a caer y a nadie le vá a importar de vuelta cuando caigan y vuelvan a ser una minoría dentro de una minoría

El problema es que cagan al país en el proceso

Massive woods. Guerilla tactics. A country left ravished by cartel wars that escalated to unseen levels by Escobar. And the poisonous idea of commie rebel hippie scum

Barranquilla

> referendum declared at 50.2%
> margin of error +/- at least 1%
> not using a supermajority of at least 60% for a decision of this magnitude

no sympathy

Fuck you.

Get the fuck out nigger.

I met a Colombean last week and she was really qt.

Where can I get one?

La ignorancia, querido user. Y la falta de escuchar al otro. Solemos ser individualistas, con la ley de "primero yo, luego yo". Da pena que hayamos dejado pasar una oportunidad de este calibre. Habrá que esperar meses e incluso años hasta una renegociacion

Not every country has a North vs. South ideology, m8. In Andenean countries is more of a coast vs mountains thing.

Join the last line resistance
~
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Medellin.
you have to have money and not be fat tho or have enough money to make up for ur fatness

I thought so.

They were not responsible for that.
caracol.com.co/radio/2000/06/17/nacional/0961221600_093544.html
And how exactly signing a peace deal will give the country to those "shitheads", people keep saying this but I don't understand how this will ever happen. Little participation in politics doesn't imply that the country will be ruled by them. Peace deal doesn't mean accepting communism as a way of life. Peace deal means a fucking PEACE DEAL

>huuuurrrr lets vote no to peece

Enjoy your forever war dumbasses.

>half Colombian

Fuck me, I was so close to being a white man. At least you can't tell I'm half spic unless you ask me. I look really white.

Oh, te puedo decir una cosa u otra sobre ese 'individualismo', se llama tribalismo

En Uruguay nos matamos entre nosotros por 100 años, por una disputa que yá todo el mundo olvidó de que se trataba (Blancos/Nacionalistas vs Colorados/Liberales) y sin embargo, tenemos una de las sociedades más democráticas del continente a estas alturas

Todavía me pregunto porque el resto de latam está en el estado que está

Y no creo que sea mucho la educación, porque la educación uruguaya dista mucho de ser de las mejores

Come on. Look at that guys face. You can not tell me that that guy believes in a single antifa cause.

Look at him. It's like he's being forced to do it.

Only 10 000 broken losers who are at their weakest in any point in their history

They can be beaten easily

Really?

Bojayá Sí 95,78% No 4,21%
Caloto Si 72,9% No 27%
Cajibio Si 71,1% No 28%
Miraflores Si 85% No 14%
Silvia Si 73% No 23%
Barbacoas Si 73% No 26%
Tumaco Si 71% No 28,8%
San Vicente del Caguan Si 62% No 37%
Apartado Si 52% No 47%
Mitú Si 77% No 22%
Valle del Guamez Si 86% No 13%
Macarena 73% No 39%
Puerto Asis Si 57% No 42%
Turbo Si 56% No 43%
Toribio Si 84% No 15%

The support from the real victims of the conflict to the peace deals was overwhelming. All of those places are the most affected zones by the conflict, where the worst massacres occurred, you can check that by your own.

What you're saying is absolutely wrong

Thanks! And Peru is better than Colombia, much better! (But we'll be better someday)

Es por los propios valores de la familia colombiana. Generalmente las familias son o catolicas o cristianas. La mayoría detesta lo diferente. Desde pequeños se nos enseña a mirar mal al diferente. Y mucha gente vive y muere en ese mundo de "mente cerrada", gente con la que discutir no sirve de nada debido a lo arraigadas que se encuentran sus ideales. Aquí hasta hablar de ser ateo es ser el demonio en persona. Ahora imaginate que piensa la gente de un guerrillero, que tras de ser diferente, ha causado daños irreparables a los colombianos

> [INSERT COLOMBIAN/FARC VERSION OF "NAVY SEAL" PASTA HERE]

Probably where the guerillas live too kek

>Generalmente las familias son o catolicas o cristianas
Ah.

Acá los colorados separaron Estado de la Iglesia al principio del siglo XX, aunque la influencia de la iglesia siempre fué infima en Uruguay

Además la educación es hyper-laica (sin catolicismo en aulas o proselitismo político)

Seguimos siendo 'católicos', en algún sentido, pero somos uno de los paises más seculares del mundo.

Quizá sea eso, o me educaron en un contexto anti-religioso muy fuerte, nunca lo sabré.

>They can be beaten easily
...they said in 1965, 1970, 1975, 1980, 1985, 1990, 1995...

De hecho, la iglesia en Uruguay ha sido acusada de ser simpatizante de la izquierda

El PDC (Partido Democrata Cristiano) es miembro fundador del Frente Amplio (coalición de izquierda en la que participa el Partido Comunista del Uruguay)

Pablo Escobar did nothing wrong.

Has Colombia ever asked or receive assistance with this obvious problem? I mean 52 years is a long ass time.

Mention the Falkland Islands - if El Rojo is an Argie, you will get the whole "Malvinas" diarrhea in his responses.

It was a NEGOTIATION, of course that are some important points. But...

I think really helping the community is way more productive than staying in jail doing nothing. Landmine removal is an important task that must be done.

Participation in politics is not a great deal... I mean, they started like a political alternative, having another point of view won't hurt anyone, besides that, there are 268 members in the congress so 10 people is not a big deal. And in the first 5 years of existence as a political party they can only share their opinion but they can't vote the things discussed in the congress.

FARC anounced will to repair the victims with money obtained from drugs.

How do you expect FARC rebels will reintegrate into society without any money. If people have no money they are more likely to become burglars or criminals in the big cities. They need some money to start their lifes.

Where is the source that says that half of the membership wouldn't demobilise?

The things are not like the country will collapse and will become communist.

No, it seems he is a colombian, if you read further in the thread you'll be able to tell, I think

Que carajos ha dicho de mi? pequeño maricon?
Me gradue primero de mi clase con tiro fijo, he estado en vuelto en mas de 300 ataques terroristas, tengo mas de 300 muertes confirmadas, estoy entrenado en combate de gorilas y soy el mejor francotirador de todas las guerrillas castro chavistas, usted no es nada para mi mas que otra extorsión. Lo voy a hacer mierda con una precision nunca antes vista en la tierra, marca mis putas palabras. Cree que puedes salirte con la tuya insultandome en la internet?. Piensalo de nuevo, neoliberal.Mientras hablamos estoy contactando a mis espias en venezuela y cuba para que rastreen su IP, preparese para la tormenta oligarca de mierda.Estas muerto cerdo facista.

If si, he should use their baby shampoo to get rid of all those pathetic commie baby tears he's splashing all over this thread.

Kill yourself, fucking retard.

Yes. Mainly from Daddy USA.

you're missing the fucking point
they are LITERALLY using violent terrorism to try and bully your government into giving them free shit and a permanent position of power. this shit is absolutely unacceptable and completely at odds with the rule of law.

Qué mierda dijiste de mí? Zurdo de mierda
Me gradue primero de mi clase en el comando del ejército, he estado en más de 300 ataques comando, tengo más de 300 desaparecidos a mi nombre, estoy entrenado en tácticas anti-insurgencia y soy el mejor francotirador de todas las fuerzas conjuntas, no sos nadie para mí más que otra desaparición. Te voy a desaparecer con una precisión jamás vista en esta tierra, marca mis malditas palabras. Crees que vás a salirte con la tuya insultandome por internet? Pensalo de nuevo, maldito bolchevique. Mientras chateamos estoy contactando a mis contactos en la armada Chilena y la CIA para que rastreen tu IP, preparate para la tormenta campesino de mierda. Estás muerto cerdo comunista

Every FARC member, supporter, and enabler needs to be eliminated. Colombians will do the right thing.

guerrillas didnt live in rural towns, they used to live hidden in the fucking jungle.

however, my point is that is widely known the support from most of the victims and also of the people from the affected zones that aren't under the influence of the farc anymore.

wat, germany didnt lose WW1 that badly. others are ok tho

Where the fuck is Columbia anyway? I know its our country but I'm too lazy to look it up. They're so lucky so few of us actually know where they are.

This is Palestinian-level barbarianism. Let's hope Colombians fit out each FARC leader with their own necklaces just like these.

ITT: Westerners whose information on colombia comes from Narcos show

I don't know much about FARC, but mst drug cartels only exist because consumer countries (like the US) have banned drug use so there is no cheaper, safer, non-black market option to get your drugs (and for many not taking the drug is also not an option). Cartels are just the free market filling a void in supply. The solution is ending the war on drugs and regulating them like alcohol and tobacco (which would ironically make them safer).

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How hard is to look that shit in Google? It's easy to remember because we have a frontier with Panama.

They are not doing that, they are not even in war anymore, I think you're not informed of what's happening. Hostilities between the army and the FARC ended a while ago.
The peace deal is already signed, they were only asking to the Colombians if they wanted to accept the deals. They will sit again to try to do some reforms to the deals with a greater political participation. It's a NEGOTIATION not an act of surrender.

You Uruguayans are nice. You come across as South America's version of Canada, in a very good way.

Oh believe me, that's a fact, I have a firend that comes from one of these towns where the guerrilla has had the control for years and he always tell me how much people fear the guerrilla there, basically what the guerrilla says they do it without questions, so it's not a surprise that these places got a +90% of votes for the SI

Brilliant. Bravo! Very, very well done.

>tfw a fucking leaf

Yeah, but then another cartel would rise in its place. The only way to end cartels is economically remove them (cartels only exist because of government intervention (banning of drugs) in consumer countries banning any legal options for drug suppliers, so you end up with illegal suppliers with more expensive and more dangerous drugs). If the US were to end the war on drugs every cartel would die out (the only possible exception is los zetas because they've diversified into kidnapping, killing for money (effectively as mercenaries, los zetas was originally the armed wing of the gulf cartel and before that they were soldiers, many of them commandos), extortion/racketeering, and other non-drug related activities, but an end of drug revenues would severely cripple them).

>the thread is auto saging
>its 3.36 am
>23 minutes until I have officially lost control of my life

I think am calling it a night

Oh God, this is fantastic too. Two South Americans have successfully placed Yanqui sides into a perfect, stable geosynchronous orbit.

Thank you, anons.

you have no clue. I actually went to one of those towns a few weeks ago and they were really enthusiastic about the peace deals, they are just really tired and wanted all of that they had to suffer comes to an end.

you can see it in their eyes.

Yeah by submitting the rest of the country to the whims of a narcoterrorist communist party. Fuck them.

How voting for a peace deal is submitting the country to the communism. You people have no idea of politics and economics. Political participation in the congress doesn't imply the implementation of communism in Colombia.

Try to explain the logical steps on how the communism will implemented in Colombia by accepting a peace deal, which has NOTHING to do with an economic model.

>It's a NEGOTIATION not an act of surrender.

if FARC get anything beyond the status quo ante out of the peace deal, then it ABSOLUTELY is a surrender. and last time i checked, they definitely did NOT have fucking guaranteed parliament seats before the war.

> Germany
> coming out of two world wars ok

"It's just a flesh wound!"