Trumped up trickle down economics

>Trumped up trickle down
Reminder, Shillary paid thousands of dollars for this terrible straw man buzz phrase.

>How cute, he honestly believes that Hillary won't service the wealthy like a whore on cocaine.

Hillary won't follow them as massively as Trump will.

>Trumped up trickle down
Why is Hillary so shit at making memes?

The only way to preserve white america is with mass depirtation (including of children).

Will Hillary Sorospuppet Clinton do that?

Even if you was right (you aren't, Clinton is more shitty than Trump on that as she would keep on globalist Trade deals and outsourcing policies), Trump would still being the only choice.

It's a strawman argument because those that advocate cutting taxes for the rich do not claim that the wealth will trickle down through the generocity of the wealthy to their workers... nobody says that. What we do claim however is to have a basic of economics and effects of taxes on producers and consumers. A "tax on the rich" always gets passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. The money that is taken does not somehow go to the workers at the bottom or middle class to equalize income inequality, it is thrown in the government pot to be spent wastefully as always, or is given out as welfare to be do not work at all. Why do leftists always think giving more of our money to the government somehow helps workers at the bottom? Oh, right, nobody that works an honest living actually wants bernout tier gibsmedats. It is just an incentive for more people to not work, which niggerizes the workforce.

>everyone gets more money
>but it's bad because someone got more money than the rest

rising tide lifts all boats

saged

I'm doing just fine. I have 4 interviews this week and a full-time offer where I am right now. Anyone complaining isn't looking.

If you had done even a shred of economics youd realise increasing taxes is one of the worst things for an economy.

Lowering them as well as reducing welfare (incentive to work increased) boosts economic activity and allows for the multiplier effect of investment and growth.

Please, embarass yourself more.

so you're saying bill clinton was practicing trickle down economics? and obama too?
or is the distribution of income almost entirely related to outsourcing and mass immigration fucking the labor pool up and allowing companies to pay even highly skilled employees less?
and you're being shovel fed distractions like gender wage gap and taxes, by the same people who allowed this to happen?

> trump is anti establishment, hence both the Dems and Reps shaking in their boots
> hillary is literally the globalists cumbucket
> trump will follow them more

So when you said you loved the poorly educated, where exactly do you fall on that scale? Mental age of a malformed foetus?

>lash welfare program for poor and middle class people

Good, those entitled fucks don't deserve it

DUDE TRICKLE DOWN LMAO

I know that. Fuck niggers

>unironically believing trickle down works

unfortunately for you, the past 30 years of US history suggests the opposite

stay underage bong

muh trickle down

But I am in the top 20%.

Are you a google or something to be poor and pathetic?

The increase in the 1% is probably due to automation and computers which increase productivity exponentially.

Multipler effect only works when wealthy people keep their money in American banks which (SPOILER) they don't.

Wealthy investing in our economy and creating jobs is a meme

Is that truly only due to Keynesianism vs. Monetarism?

But not the top 1%. They're the only ones to get s real increase.

very true

But why haven't engineers and computer scientists seen an exponential increase in their salaries?

yeah those wealthy have done horribly under those people loving democrats

oh wait, nevermind, they also did everything they could to bankrupt the nation

saged

move on

>Trickle down economics has happened under ever GOP president since Reagan.

and what exactly was different about Democratic economic policy?

oh right nothing, except they tell you not to bother trying

>so let's vote Republican, so they have an even easier time!

>Trump would be Bush on steroids,

Obazma was Bush on Steroids

>Hillary won't follow them as massively as Trump will.

well she does know them better

Going to need some sources for all of that bullshit

you understand that "trickle down" economics is happening right now? and in every economy around the world currently.

That is because the "trickle down" is function of the economy, not a tactic. At its base level, artificial monetary supply is where we see efficiency gains in the economy.

So the real question is not if "trickle down" economics exists (it does), but how efficient is it at the time. Sometimes its works and results in mass consumption, but as it turns out, constant intervention into the process by the government dampens the sectors which would normally spend more in accordance.

Its like the economy is a bear just living its life on its own, and some asshole (government) decides to throw rocks at it in order to make it do what he wants and then gets ass-blasted at the bear for existing when it beats his ass down.

>Trump will massively cut taxes for the wealthy

you mean cut taxes for job creators? Sounds like a good idea.

>much money
>muh usury
>muh materialism

good goy.

Thank you. Libtards have no clue what multiplier or accelerator effects are.

>47 - 79
>demand-side economics
>yet heavily reliant on massive influx of monetary supply
>results in retarded amount of inflation
>idiots rejoice that they have more dollar bills

hooray.

> muh (((jobs)))
>muh (((consumption)))

Good little shiksa

Yes, good goy. Continue to promote the system that has systematically destroyed British society. We living in (((Hampstead))) are thankful for your sacrifice.

>job creators?

Nice fox news buzz word. You should work for them.

But democrats have raised taxes on the rich under obama
>what is expiring Bush era tax cuts
>what is surcharge on capital gains taxes
This is pretty basic stuff that democrats have been doing for generations - increase taxes on the wealthiest. of course she is going to continue on that trajectory if elected

Not sure what you mean by 'usury'.
However thanks to the american welfare system, and the upwards of 180+ programs specifically for blacks, it is a rare situation in that those on or below the poverty line are actually more likely to be massively obese, be hoarders, and own at least 2 flat screen tvs.
"We needs our weave! I dont use it but we needs it!!"

Except the multiplier effect doesn't work when they put all their goddamn money overseas and outside of banks.

OP learned new talking points today.

>LET ME GO BTFO Cred Forums!

>The money that is taken does not somehow go to the workers at the bottom or middle class to equalize income inequality

Uh, yes it literally does, if there are policies in place to guarantee that. That's precisely what the proponents of social democracy have instituted in several european countries to great success.

>Trump fixes economy, good Happening
GREAT
>Trump crashes economy, bad Happening
ALSO GREAT.

I've said it since May, but a vote for Trump is a hedged bet, no matter what the outcome I get something I want, either national restoration or hastening of country's collapse.

What good is growth when only the top 1% benefit from it? There is a balance to be had regarding maximizing total growth and maximizing median income growth. This is why we have a progressive tax code to begin with...

Reminder to sage this shit

Read Trumps policies on his website, poor people literally pay 0% tax

What has "destroyed" british society:
> welfare and council housing
> minimum wage (outpricing those who would work for less, deincentivising workers, restricting the boss in terms of how many people can be hired)
> large influxes of skilled migrants (poles) taking the jobs from lazy british NEETs who would rather get benefits than work BECAUSE of minimum wage
> wage price spiral meaning workers demand more pay, companies increase prices, workers demand more pay, companies increase prices
> government failure and budgetary cutbacks lowering total aggregate demand via C+I+G (X-M)
> government failure to get good deals and let the Chinese roll over our entire steel industry

But no youre completely right, the methods of multiplier effect increasing aggregate demand is DEFINITELY to blame. Not. Try harder.

>Read Trumps policies on his website, poor people literally pay 0% tax

Just like DRUMPF

Same fucking thread
100 times a day
every fucking day
nope no shilling going on here
SAGE

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You DO know that the British economy has been VERY Socialist prior to Thatcher?

Then it comes down to corruption and choice, which in either case of tax increase/tax reduction would still play the same role of removing money from the system.
If there was incentive to reinvest into R&D, expansion, new departments, more innovation etc, which would be spurred on by more competition resulting from tax cuts from small businesses, then it works well. Its not the system thats the problem, as per usual its the rich cunts at the top.

Thanks for correcting the record OP

50% of Americans aren't in poverty

Think I give a shit about business as usual? I'm more concerned with boatloads of Muslim rapists and Mexican drug cartels flooding into the country. I'm more concerned with the fucking TPP.

We have real problems. This isn't another tired ad hominem election. There's a reason why the debate got Superbowl ratings.

...yes mate.

I just find it hilarious when people say multiplier and accelerator effect doesnt work when it is one of the few investment side options that substantially helps to keep aggregate demand stable.
It is a free market method being tacked onto a state capitalist/socialist economic system. Wherever the government intervenes there is bound to be inefficiency.
Welcome to Econ 101.

>50% of Americans aren't in poverty

Yes THEY ARE

rt.com/usa/half-poor-america-poverty-909/

America is a third world nation thanks to low taxes.

Nonetheless, only the 50% top earners contribute more than taxes than they receive. Assuming a workforce participation rate of 70%, only 35% of Americans are net tax contributors.

>I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED
you must love your self. cuck.
dont worry there a nice black nigger cock for you suck on back at the ctr breakrooma

>implying welfare benefits most of the working class in any significant sense
>implying migrants aren't driving down the cost of labor and using up tax revenue in welfare programs
>implying clinton won't sign more trade deals that send even more jobs overseas
>all compounding into an environment where you have to fight for work and still get paid fuck all.
But what we really need is more gibsmedat, am I right OP?
That's totally great for our long term goals.

>50% of Americans live in poverty
>because of low taxes
Yea, we should tax people that actually work so lazy niggers get more handouts.
People couldn't be in poverty because there is little job opportunity for unskilled workers to make a decent wage.

>raising taxes on the rich just gets the burden passed down

I love how libertarian economics claims to know """''economics"""" while avoiding the history of American economics.

What was the top income tax rate per shill takeover 1970's again? Oh yeah I forgot somewhere between 50 and 90%.

This burden was not passed down to the consumers. Quite the opposite. Instead with a strong economy free of Chinese labour overseas and illegal labour down south, most companies were forced into investing in expanding their businesses or giving their employees more benefits that helped productivity. Which was skyrocketing anyways thanks to a strong government science finding and the corporations investing in new technologies.

Even other "socialist" moves like the nationalization of natural resource production are excellent ways to boost the budget and pull countries out of the dump. Ask Norway how their "socialist" oil policies went , hell even ask how it went for the gulf nations.

Sure that Soviet style socialism doesn't work (save a few scenarios where a country is poor and has more resources than money), but what about mixed market economics like in the European countries? Even Hitler was a fan of that.

Lowering taxes for the middle class and poor class is what ruins economies yes.

Cracking down on the rich and their international schemes? No that's what brought us to such strenght to begin with. See previous post for details senpai.

The trick with Keynesian economics is you have to pay back debt during the booms. Essentially suppressing the size of booms with increased taxes.

Nobody ever does this.

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>Leftists think telling people what their own interests are is effective persuasion
Do you even realize how douchey and elitist you sound? Shitting on the poorly educated as if that makes them lesser than? You don't what my best interest is. The government doesn't either. That's the whole point of this country, individualism.

I thought he was going to cut taxes across the board and raise the income required to even pay income tax?

Has he gone back on this? Why is this not more promoted if true because surely it means that: low income workers have more income, prices of goods may decrease from less tax at the top, and the only people with less money is the government.

>you are literally voting against you own interests

Wut?

well trump has stated he with lowering taxes across the board wants to incentives everyone bring their money back to the states

The past 30 years of US history has been crony capitalism aka corporatism, as well as the highest corporate tax rate in the world, and rampant over regulatiom.

>needing to take a class to realize this

If I was a rich guy, and some poor dick faggots told me I owe them money on account of me being so successfull, I'd laugh and then go elsewhere.

poor people are stuck in their neighborhoods. I could go wherever i wanted.

what it is, is politicians are thieves and they just want the money so bad they run for office so they can use political means to steal it. That's all. sure some of it is for stuff we need but look at our roads and our schools and tell me those budgets are actually going to what they're supposed to. Not to mention all the taxpayer money they give away to their friends. fucking cunts. I droppe out in 10th grade and even I know this. baka some people are just educated above their intelligence.

Trump is the only candidate who even talks about wealth repatriation.

>Wealthy investing in our economy and creating jobs is a meme
That's literally the only way the economy grows. People invest, people exchange goods and services, wealth is created when mutualistic voluntary transactions are made.

>I thought he was going to cut taxes across the board and raise the income required to even pay income tax?

>Has he gone back on this?

Nope, every tax bracket is still getting a deduction. Not just "the rich" (as if everyone who owns a small business is rich, I'm certainly not)

Second part of this post meant to quote

he will do the same as he does in his business?

what an autist fuck you are.

Companies only hire when they absolutely have to and to meet a demand. We've seen time and time again that when you give corporate tax holidays (i.e. Bush in '03-'04) it does jackshit

>welfare
>for middle class

It's not how it works.

And in the process balloon our national debt to the size of the moon. His plan is just recycled Gilded Age and Reagan stuff.

>beaner says Trump is a bad businessman with the biggest personal economic turnaround in history.