Welp, it was fun while it lasted, guys

Welp, it was fun while it lasted, guys...

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youtube.com/watch?v=0RbWMvSJsTU
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>taking a loss on your tax return is illegal

That's right go- guy, pay taxes on that money even though you lost it

What? I'm pro Trump, what's your problem?

Published by the NY times, who paid no taxes in spite of millions of dollars in profit.

Published for the benefit of Hillary Clinton, who use the exact same carry over ($600k) in 2014

M-Maybe these will finally show that he did something wrong.

>zionist newspaper effectively making the zionist puppet candidate to the other zionist candidate

everything went according to their plan

vote third party faggots

The media is pushing hard to stop Trump's rise

But in reality, no one gives a shit about tax returns. The only people that do are hillshills and demented bernouts that now support her.

Regular people talk more about the Miss Universe stuff than his tax returns.

He's been attacked all through the campaign. This was his strategy all along. Nothing sticks anymore, even if it is legit.

HE CAN STILL WIN THIS RIGHT GUIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

Literally no one gives a fuck about a tax return.

I'm honestly happy they are busying wasting time.

Imagine if the Clinton Foundation was forced to release its tax docs. It'd be far worse.

...

>He thinks Trump 'actually' lost nearly $1,000,000,000 in a year

No wonder you're a Trump voter.

He is talking about the media, Hans.

Couldn't Trump just easily turn this around and say something to the equivalent of "Don't hate the player hate the game" and that who better is there to sort out the taxation system?

>i make 100k and lose 30k+ in taxes every year
>trump brags about making billions and pays nothing

the issue isnt the legality of it, everyone knows its perfectly legal, but to suggest that suddenly trump gives a fuck about the govt, or the middle class, or anyone but himself is laughable.

also the fact that people think he is a "business genius" while his tax return shows he lost almost A BILLION DOLLARS in a single year is equally hilarious.

i guess enjoying nigger cock in your ass goes hand in hand with being a trumpfag though--pic related.

nothing illegal or wrong .. report like its bad

jew media is the worst

Nobody I know cares enough to jump ship. They all take every tax break available.

>>taking a loss on your tax return is illegal
Nobody is saying this.

It just blows away the "Trump is a good businessman meme".

If he's not a good businessman, he loses his the paper-thin credibility he had as being a potentially competent president.

This puts him on the same level as Hillary in terms of competence.

And considering Hillary comes off as actually sane and mature, she wins by default.

Nobody is saying he did something wrong. We're saying he's shit. Which he is.

>But in reality, no one gives a shit about tax returns.
YOU don't. His hardcore supporters don't. But it was never about that. It's about swaying independents to one side or the other to tip the scales.

You have to make a billion dollars before you can lose it.

THIS

also, a vote for trump is a vote for (((them)))

well considering it wasTrump who sent the docs....it's obvious that's all she got from him

if he'd sent her more than that, she would've dumped the whole thing

also notice he sent it to her on saturday night when people don't watch the news so much

It almost as if he understands how rekt the tax code is and wamts to fix it

>publish illegally acquired tax documents
>get scolded by world
>"we're doing it again guys"

What the fuck do they expect?

>i made a billion dollars and then lost it all
>I AM AN AMAZING BUSINESSMAN

>this is what underage children actually believe

i honestly feel sorry for you. its gonna be tough going through life as an unemployable moron

No one cares. He's always, always said the system was corrupt because it allowed billionaires like him to pay as little tax as possible.
He has been saying this since day one, the JEws are just trying to make a big deal out of it when he's been saying since day 1-- "who knows the system better than me, I know how to work it, I know how to fix it."

At this point, the Jews are not trying to change anyone's mind-- they are simply trying to convince voters that we have already lost to suppress White turnout, bc they already know the nigger turnout will be atrocious.

The secret here-- just laugh at them and don't lose faith. LOTS of Americans )including me) are voting for first time in their lives.

All the Jews are trying to do is to suppress White voter turnout, because if it's an historic turnout, they are done given how low nigger turnout will be compared to '12 and '08.

all they are trying to do is suppress White turnout y trying to tell us we've already lost. Don't let them, stay positive, and if we get the White turnout we need, she's done. Period. Nothing else matters. 75% of all white males are voting Trump.
Yes, "le 62% meme," but the vast majority of non-Whites are under 18 (in case of spics) and niggers are felons.
DO NOT buy the Jewish bullshit anons. Their polls of "likely voters" mean shit bc they are not taking into account the vast amount of White voting for first time in their lives.

Take a look at the economy in the 1990's. A lot of people lost everything. He was able to regain everything he lost. This is quite incredible.

In fact he wrote a whole fucking book about it. This isn't news, stop trying to make it out to be.

Lets take a look at the Clinton Foundation taxes shall we???

>hint they have more illegal documents

huh

Same lame .jpg
same lame responses
step up your game CTR

as you queers like to say:

not an argument

HAHAHA holy shit how can you be this delusional? He is a jewish puppet

He had a casino go under, lost $900 million and is still worth multiple billions. He didn't pay fed income taxes b/c he doesn't have to for 18 years. He's had 4 failures and 200+ successes which puts him above a 98% success rate.

Explain how is he not a good business man?

> oh gee business can deduct losses from tax
> THAT IS NOT ALLOWED

Lel, then 90% of business wouldn't exist. Apple and Microsoft would not exist. It's just the media making themselves look like total retards to anyone who owns a business.

You really have no clue what you're talking about haha.

''oh look at drumpf supports dey be so duuumbb lel racists XD''
Kill yourself.

Fuck cuckchan why do I even go on here 90% off posts are shills like this dipshit German and this retarded American.

@91330016

you are really embarrassing yourself ctr

CTR really needs to stop using the Irish.

That or the Irish are just plain stupid.

>still worth multiple billions

but he's not--he just says he is. which as we've seen over and over again, is bullshit.

>nyt continues to break the law
>trump explodes

Pick one

yeah, Bernie Madoff 'made' 32 billion, before he lost it. Maybe, its down the back of one of Trumps Tacky Gilt Sofas?

>You really have no clue what you're talking about haha.
>''oh look at drumpf supports dey be so duuumbb lel racists XD''
>Kill yourself.
>Fuck cuckchan why do I even go on here 90% off posts are shills like this dipshit German and this retarded American.

see

Because we can't let the shills win

If you lose 1 billion but still have 10 billion after that, who actually cares? You can't pretend a self-made billionaire tycoon is bad at business, it just makes you sound like a Bern victim.

Prove it's bullshit faggot

>trump's grandhildren are/will be all jewish
>israeli people love him
>he loves israel

But we dont know what the billion dollar write down was. Was it a legit business loss? What business? Or was it some gay accounting trick? Is this write down the reason why Trump is admittedly audited every year? Not enough info was actually released to know.

He could just release his returns like other candidate in the past 40 years and all the speculation would go away

Also
>im good at biznus
>i lost a billion dollars in 1 year
That doesnt really add up

>Take a look at the economy in the 1990's.
Last I heard it was actually going pretty swell

>A lot of people lost everything.
That's pretty fucking vague.

>He was able to regain everything he lost.
Was he? Because even today he's sensitive about his net worth. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in debt to this day.

>Lets take a look at the Clinton Foundation taxes shall we???
Have a blast, I really don't care. My point is that Trump and Hillary are now on similar levels of shadiness and incompetence. The only distinguishing factor between them is experience and temperament, and Hillary wins that battle easily.

You know he's going to lose, right?

>benefits from a corrupt system
>should be entrusted to make it not-corrupt
I feel like you'd have to be a child to believe that those things add up.

He doesn't give a fuck about anything but his bottom line. I don't see how that isn't clear as day at this point.

Trump has been saying he did this for a long time.

Then again, you you have no concept of facts and just believe whatever queen hillary tells you, fucking LOL.... You lefties must get off on humiliating yourselves.... you're fucking pathetic...

How many shekels do you earn per post?

I don't care, I'm not voting for anyone anyway.

His assets are not liquid. He is most definitely worth billions.

>Last I heard it was actually going pretty swell

There is a recession evey decade buddy

Interesting how the HillShills are so uncreative they have to parasitise right-wing memes instead of coming up with their own shit.

How are you enjoying your first day on Cred Forums?

Trump is going to win despite the media's strongest attempts at bringing him down. Meme magic will soon be real.

It was Bill Clinton that changed the tax system to allow for what Trump and other corporations do now. Trump would have to be brain-dead to not take advantage of it.

Pretty sure Hillary's temperament is way worse then Trumps

WOW you sure corrected the record buddy!

prove its true.

trump lies repeatedly, so i have no reason to believe him about his wealth, especially when he refuses to release the documents (tax returns) that would prove it. that suggests to me that he is lying and covering up the evidence.

>also the fact that people think he is a "business genius" while his tax return shows he lost almost A BILLION DOLLARS in a single year is equally hilarious.

I love it. You people act as if you can be bad at business and still build a multi-billion dollar company.

Or that you would still pay federal taxes if you could possibly legally avoid it.

The mental gymnastics are astounding.

still not an argument!

>but he's not
But he is

fortune.com/2016/05/23/doland-trump-net-worth/

He literally wrote a book about how he lost 900 million and made a comeback. The fact that people think this is news shows how retarded voters are

The kool aid is strong with this one

>hahahah the right wing are sooo good at memes

fucking cringe. yes, we get it, you trumpfags are all 16 years old, anything else you want to share with the class?

>All these CTR shills

Hilary must be fucking desperate

This doesn't make them anything alike though. Hillary made hundreds of millions of dollars from pure public corruption in the form of pay for play. She's literally a traitor, one that sold American political influence to the highest bidder and has gotten away with it for decades.
To call these things equal is ridiculous, equal is her having used the same tax code in 2014, unequal is Saudi Arabia directing American politics because they paid her off you fucking shill piece of shit.

>one corrupt politician bought another
>this should surprise anyone
Hillary needs to divorce Bill and defeat Trump

BREAKING NEWS: Trump didn't go out of his way to pay more in taxes than he was legally obligated to pay.

Remember that this is a slide thread

He has more shit to come tomorrow

>no comment to a question
>this is bad news!
What?

see

Still not an answer. Is it less than 0.02? I have a group that can offer you more.

Maybe he really does have literally no money left. The 5 billion in American holdings he divested to Ivanka so he would pass presidential finance disclosure are obviously real, or the IRS would have strung him up by now. Just imagine, only 5 billion dollars in objectively provable assets. How could you afford to even eat?

trump would literally be richer today if he took daddy's money and invested in municipal bonds.

he's a spoiled little babby--but hey, you probably see some of yourself in him.

protip: get a job.

I guess it's over then. Pack it up.

>If you lose 1 billion but still have 10 billion after that
>have 10 billion

Citation needed (other than Trump's ass)

Hillary needs to be put into an oven is what she needs to do.

Is this their October surprise?

Pretty sad famalam

You don't understand basic economics at all huh?

>people should be productive and get jobs
>except for Trump who should have sat on his ass and done nothing. Lol what a retard. How is he so dumb that he didn't read the future and started tons of businesses with his dad's money instead of investing it into bonds

>Is under audit
>Durr whhy doesn't Trump release his tax returns

>Self funds primary run
>Durr Trump is broke

Hope CTR is paying you well for the treason you commit. Cock sucking kike faggot.

His tax returns would tell us absolutely nothing about his wealth. Are you fucking retarded? At least do the minimal amount of effort to figure out how taxation works in America.

>Trump not paying taxes using a tax loophole Bill Clinton created so both he and Hillary Clinton themselves could avoid taxes, is bad for Trump. Somehow. Because reasons.

Trump supporters are perhaps the biggest cucks with Bernie supporters

Taking shitposting to a whole new level here. A billionaire who has worked most of his life, a bloo bloo bloo he's such a spoiled baby and I definitely don't own my own business or anything. I must live in my parents basement for sure.

But shitposting about it on a Plutonian quantum checkers forum must make you feel great about your life.

Oh yes, because voting for a raggedy old globalist cunt who told white people should check their privilige because a black officer killed a black criminal is somehow not being a total cuck.

>Using legal methods of tax avoidance is a big deal

I understand you're trying to defend Trump, but do it right. Trump pays more taxes in a single day than most people here will pay in their lifetime. The retarded controversy was over federal income tax, not the countless other taxes and fees people like Trump pay.

>some stupid shit about boring business things
>ITS A TICKING TIME BOMB
>Meanwhile, hillary almost literally sold bombs to ISIS...GAVE them actually.

Hillary even at her mediocre self, is still ten thousand times worse than trump at his worst. Jesus fuck this dumb reporting.

The 90s was a bad decade for real-estate. A lot of investors lost money, Trump included. Rather, the fact that Trump is still very much in business and doing pretty well is testament to the fact he IS a good businessman.

You guys seem pretty angry, could you calm down and explain why Ivanka publicly receiving the 5 billion in American investments and assets Trump owned in name is not wealth?

>So we’ll assume a relatively low [Tax..] rate, for a billionaire, of 15%.

Lulz - try 0%. Fortune are bigger shitehawks than Tump, and even they say, in no uncertain terms, "Trump? His own wealth estimates? - Hes Full Of Shit."

Shillary and Obama are literally responsible for men, women, and children being beheaded in the Mideast and also leaving our troops to die

But... they are too busy telling us how Trump effectively and legally played the tax system, only pounding the point home that the government and IRS are inept little shits.

Will they show even more how he did nothing illegal and followed the law? Wew lads, that's totally gonna destroy his campaign!

>Wikileaks leak coming soon
>Clinton still not demolishing Trump enough for the leaks to not sink her

I smell damage control

the income tax is nothing more than a hedge on inflation. budget is drawn from treasury who gets shekels from the fed. the privately owned fed.
>dumbed down version

>municipal bonds.
Which municipal bonds have yields of like... 10000%?

Trump is probably going to win, partner up with May and stop your benefits, sorry bud

Trump literally gets audited every fucking year. I'd think the IRS would have caught on to this if it was anything illegal.

I already said this. They release trumps tax returns and he gets bumped abit. Soon after they wont be able to do or say fuck all about it. Trumps playing 5d chess

That's not true.

Every single one of those calculations fails to take into account the inflation rate. Every single one.

Let's do a quick little mental game. If what you and the other hillshills were suggesting was true - that he could have turned millions of dollars into billions by simply investing it - then any single one of our parents would have been able to get a similar, yet scaled down return over the same period. That is to say that had any single one of them casually invested $1,000 it would have grown into millions.

If such a thing were true, you would have heard many, many stories of the random people who decided to just casually toss $1,000 in the stock market, and walking away with Millions. Think about it. Millions upon millions of Americans and not a single one of them just casually tossed three grand in the stock market and are now worth millions.

But of course you don't hear about that. Those people don't exist. Because those returns don't exist. It didn't happen like that. And of course it couldn't happen like that, because some people actually understand how these things work and don't just post Hillary talking points all day.

I'm saying maybe this is the reason he gets audited every year...because this nearly billion dollar write down was not totally legit. The justificstion for the write down was not released. There is no way of knowing exactly what he wrote down and how legal or illegal it was.

his real estate in Manhattan is probably worth a few billion alone

The person who made this image needs to be killed. I think he's also a German.

>But we dont know what the billion dollar write down was. Was it a legit business loss? What business?
Yes we do. Casinos

Do some fucking basic research on the topic before opening your mouth.

NYT knows they're finished this is like the last whimpering cry of a dying animal.

None. It's a bullshit talking point that folds under the most basic levels of scrutiny.

I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of selective outrage. One of the best methods of coercion by the (((media))) is a lie by omission. And the Clinton's dodging taxes, especially with the Foundation, is nothing short of a national scandal.

As far as I know, Trump's never held office and never effected the tax code in his favor, as the Clintons have.

Try writing casinos next to a billion dollar write off and see how far that gets you with the IRS

>Trump releases his tax returns to the NYT
>They are trying desperately to make it look bad no matter what
that's all I see here.

>you can be objectively the worst Secretary of State, the worst Senator from New York, the worst boomer when it comes to cyber security and national defense
>but you're fucked if you lost money once

How fucking jewish are these kikes?

They've repeatedly claimed that he's gone bankrupt 4 times so how is this unreasonable?

>There is no way of knowing exactly what he wrote down and how legal or illegal it was.
Yes there is, this is why the IRS has a CID (Criminal Investigative Division), which has never opened a case file on Trump. They have the authority to wiretap, surveil, make arrests like any other law enforcement outfit.

IRS CID is better than the FBI at catching people. If there was something there, they'd have found it after over a dozen audits. Also the IRS is very political, the primary reason for auditing Trump yearly is the same reason the IRS targeted thousands of NGOs and small businesses for harassment with audits, subpoenas, summons, etc, because they were conservatives, or deemed unfriendly by the administration.

the IRS doesn't just let stuff go, if you're being audited.

and especially not every year

Are you not aware of his casino that filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy? It's pretty well known by now.

This is why he was never going to release his tax returns

He's never broken any laws and any ""dodgy"" dealings would be in his company's financials, he's paid a fuckload of taxes, just not one specific tax.

The reason is that only a small amount of people understand or are willing to understand how the tax affairs of the very rich work, so it's easy for the media to spin it for stupid people.

Pretty much, every news agency and their employees mother's will be hiring a tax expert to examine trump's returns. Once they find an "expert" who says what they want they will all start repeating the same story like they are now

Good luck Achmed.

Allah is bitch

I am actually a richfag, i know very well how this shit goes down. You can be highly aggressive with your taxes, use accounting shenanigans. Just because his casino went bankrupt doesnt mean he had a legit billion dollar loss. Maybe there was some shady dealings here. Maybe thats why the irs scrutinizes his taxes with audits every year now. There is not enough info to know.

They (MSM) keep talking about how bad this week has been for Trump. What an massacre the debates were, what a disaster these taxes are, what a holocaust the 5 am tweeting was. Well where's the evidence then? I've seen no national polls except the LA Times and UPI, which have both shifted towards Trump. Could it possibly be that the MSM is trying to create a false narrative because all their best tactics are failing?

>he thinks, Bongs still get 'Benefits.. '
IDS beat May to extinguishing any remaining ember of those. Last time 'benefits' here were worth the hassle of claiming, you lot were still being birched.

ah yeah, Drumpf btfo how will he even recover from a media failed attack and all that sort of things...

Yeah right wingers tend to have better memes. Look you can't even get the fedora stereotype correct.

It will be from 21 years ago AGAIN?

He got fucking ridden in the last debate. He'll probably get ridden worse in the next. And if the polls dont reflect that? The only thing they will then relaibaly reflect will be, Muricans are indeed a Nation of Morons.

I wonder what these shills are gonna post when Assange drops the bomb tomorrow.

95% of businesses fail in the first five years. Trump has had 4 failures and 200+ successes.

All those NYT kikes should be lynched.

>but to suggest that suddenly trump gives a fuck about the govt, or the middle class
OUR TAX DOLLARS DON'T HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS NIGGER. When trump said his money would be squandered either way, he was absolutely right.

Fucking checked

Only on the second half. The moderator wasn't really unbiased with his questions.

Rather be a nation of morons than a nation of globalist enablers if Hillary wins

You're speculating on a grand scale. And it's not "accounting shenanigans", this is a standard practice. Small business owners do it as well. You can do this shit with turbotax, you don't need a CPA.

For example, my uncle did a very shady tax shelter. He had a successful business that was growing like crazy, raking in millions a year. So he 'lent ' the business to a nonprofit for 5 years. For those 5 years, the business made over $100 million dollars. No taxes were due because the non profit owned it for that time.
The IRS eventually challenged this, but gave him an exemption from prosecution if he paid all back taxes in a timely manner.

>He doesn't give a fuck about anything but his bottom line.

Obviously false. It's about ego and winning.

I don't understand why he won't just release his tax returns. All of this bullshit would go away, and he could get back to talking about building the wall.

>Hello
>I know nothing about business
>call me a dumb nigger
You are a dumb nigger.

>businessmen only make money and never lose it

Hmmmm

Clinton is backed by Soros. He essentially proves the conspiracy theory that jews control everything.

Trump could stop all te specilation if he just released his last few years tax returns like every other major candidate for the past 40 years

only one way to vote now

>I don't understand why he won't just release his tax returns. All of this bullshit would go away,
Because it wouldn't go away. The media would do what they are doing right now, making a big deal of a fucking nonstory.

What they're doing is illegal. NYT is playing into Trump's hands

STOP RESPONDING TO SHILL THREADS NEWFAGS!

Report and sage

As a business person, I used the same tax strategy and received $5,000 back from the the state and federal taxes. I'll be buying myself something nice and pretty.(saving for retirement) Because, I BUSTED MY ASS TO EARN IT. If you want the same tax strategy, start an f'ing business and work for it and earn it. He did it. So did I. You can too! And I don't regret not paying the taxes that they so freely give away to other countries without one single though of how much I worked my ass off, or how I could have used that money myself!

The inflation rate wouldn't make the nominal money have a lower value.

Invest $1000 and assume a 7% nominal return for 40 years. You now have $15,000

Do it with a million and you have $15,000,000

Do it with $200 million and you have $3,000,000,000

No matter what inflation was you would still have $3 billion. The $3 billion would be worth less but you'd still have it.

>CTR retards think this "b-but i support Trump!" tactic actually works

If they really have them they're just trying to figure out who will take the fall.
But likely they're just talking out their asses for attention because increased traffic means more ad revenue.

Absolutely this

Trump is a cocky fuck who is both famous and rich, so now he's bored. Why not take a stab at being president? And if he becomes president does he just gg, or will he insist on being remembered at least as favorably as Reagan is?

Hillary's only motivation is leveraging more political power to auction them off as favors to the highest bidder. Now I ask you fence sitters: which is actually a bad thing?

*angry emoji

nobody besides you shitlibs actually cares about this but hey if you want to pick this hill to die on then by all means

>Is rich
SMART BUSINESSMAN MAGA

>Loses a billion
>EXPOSING SHITTY TAX CODE MAGA

Good old Cred Forums never fails to deliver top level hypocrisy. Next you'll elaborate why Trump screwing businesses out of free work then hiding behind the courts is MAGA.

Except he did because the market crashed and Atlanta was horrible he talked about it a long time ago.

>trailing by massive amounts in key electoral college states

yeah...... sure thing buddy.

>no firm data
THAT'S IT THEY FOUND HOFFA'S BODY
IT'S IN TRUMP'S GLOVE BOX

that's not hypocrisy buddy

CTR just wants to fit in so bad. They probly wonder how we notice their every post

>New Youk Times reporter Susanne Craig offered up a firm "no comment" when she was asked if the newspaper has more Trump tax documents
>HEADLINE: NYT HINTS THEY HAVE MORE TRUMP TAX DOCS

Yeah I know mate that's what I said

>NYT lies about hillary's numerous scandals until they are too big to hide
>they are releasing tax docs
>they expect most people to be too stupid to understand tax laws like they should be too stupid to understand benghazi

this is a non-issue

You won't get a response from them because your post makes too much sense.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Funny thing is it's probably true

>Trump is a cocky fuck who is both famous and rich, so now he's bored.
So bored that he blacklisted himself and his business to help MAGA.

live by the lulz, die by the lulz. Chan serves no higher purpose, and higher purpose there is none.

I say, gl/hf and gg, americans

I like how even to THIS DAY, THIS FAR into the election, theyre STILL pulling the same shit.

LOL TRUMP IS FINISHED THIS TIME GUYS XDDD

Like holy fuck is this their only method of attack? Its been a legit year of the same shit. ITS NOT WORKING

The speculation is entirely propped up. If there was some scamming involved you can bet your ass the IRS will leak it. In all probability, there will be some creative accounting involved, like you know, every rich person with a competent accountant does, within the constraints of the law.
Liberals will whine as usual. Ironically enough Trump's tax plan will be better than Obama's but hey we hate rich folk irrationally and there's nothing you can do about it.

But the media says that he always claimed to pay more taxes than anyone else.

The media also says he would deport all Mexicans and force Muslims to get branded with identifying tatoos, they can't be lying about these things or else someone else in the media (who isn't also a nazi, like Ben Shapiro and Ted Cruz) would tell us about it.

"No"

Literally all they have is demoralization at this point.

You should care about this. The reason it has become customary for poltiicans to release their tax returns is precisely because people care about these things. Its not just a matter of did he pay all his taxes or how much did he owe, there is also the matter of conflicts of interest. Not to mention the fact that for Trump, who's only qualification is that he is good at biznus, there is even more reason to demonstrate that to the American people. Why is this hard to understand?

Maybe for a couple of days, but it would be over, and no-one could talk shit about it anymore after that. He is creating an unnecessary distraction by not releasing them and allowing the media to portray the fact that he hasn't released them as something sinister.

>Trump should have invested money and done nothing his whole life!
>Fuck the thousands of people he has provided jobs for! He's evil!
This is my favorite argument.

Up to 10 posts. Impressive! You are racking up the shekels today. I have an idea. When you're done being Hillary's bitch today, get your shekels, go to the corner store, buy some bleach, and drink it. You dirty ctr kike scum.

>The reason it has become customary for poltiicans to release their tax returns is precisely because people care about these things.
Actually it's to make sure that said person is not in any other countries debt/pocket, etc. Stop being retarded please.

>trump is the representation of murica brain damage
lel

>propped up
There is a reason he is not releasing his tax returns. We can only speculate as to why until he actually releases them. Don't see why any speculation would be out of bounds.

maybe you shouldve finished reading my post, numbnuts

What difference, at this point, does it make?

>gaming the system to minimize taxes (which is legal) is good
>gaming the system to win the Democratic nomination (which is legal) is bad

No need, you're a moron. He transferred ownership to his kids. No more conflict, you guys will find anything to cry about.

STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO THE SHILL AND GET IN HERE

Oh, so he would have no conflict of interest in protecting his kids assets?

how you make money without slaves? geez

>so he would have no conflict of interest
Can't this same argument be used on Hillary and her foundation to though? Seeing where the money is coming from in their foundation screams conflict of interest. The rich and powerful hate Trump and that says a lot.

Whew, really happy to see my shill thread took off like this!

Thanks, Trumpcucks, it wouldn't have been possible without you :^)

>Donald Trump legally avoids paying taxes
>It's over
>Hillary Clinton murders Americans and is exposed as being in bed with everyone and do favours for everyone as long as they give her "legal" backhanders
>Ladies and Gentlemen please welcome your new POTUS

I don't believe Americans are that stupid, but I do believe the media is that desperate.

All of the documents for Hillary's personal tax returns and the Clinton foundations finances are totally public information tho. It is there in the open to be examined and picked apart. And indeed it has been.

Your right, but if you knew how to read then you would see that she is in the pockets of just about every 1%er and by their own admission Trump isn't.

>finally show he did something wrong
the only thing he did wrong was allow a reptilian sub-creature be in his presence

>(((Peter Hasson)))

Every time...

Top kek nice reference

why is it hard to understand that none of that bullshit means anything retard?

>2016
>can use internet
>does no research himself

You can go through their financial audits on their own website yourself and do the math stupid.

What is it you libtards used to say? Oh yes, " keep fucking that chicken!"

>keep fucking that chicken!

Done :^)

>reposting the same image with the same filename again
basically tripfagging
fuck off

Donations doesnt mean she is beholden to anyone but I agree it doesnt look great for Hillary.

But what would we find if Trump had similar transparency?

>posting while Swedish
basically fagtripping
fuck off

He already won, CHECK'EM

And it is for this, classic of the genre, 'Yu iz returd, hoho' non-response to a well-written and intelligently thought out post, for this, you and Trump will get fucked sideways, come November 8th.

This is both your and Drumpfs basic problem - you have no response. And you have no response as not the facts, but the lies and the BS, its all on your side, ever-increasing mountains of it, till you have nowhere left to hide, other than, 'yu iz tard'

Your candidate be lucky to finish runner-up at this rate, seriously. 'I'll release my Tax Returns..' - we're waiting, Drumpf.

>Lester Dolt
>unbiased
>wasn't throwing softballs to Clinton like she was his slave master's wife

Do you honestly think trump would push for changes in the tax code that would have a direct negative impact on his own businesses? I doubt it and I doubt that the majority of voters would buy it either.

>i made billions of dollars legally while using the tax code to my advantage just like my rival did last year
>because of this i wanna fix that so it benfits more americans
Jesus christ brah even my leftist radio station said he did nothing wrong. The head radio guy is a 100% stoner too

Apparently facts and the truth do not matter any more in the US political process. Sound bytes and memes and emotional appeal are all that matter to these retards. How did we get here?

>man tried to pay as least amount of taxes possible
>literally every person in the country does the same
>lolstupiddrumpf

Nothing to see here CTR, but lets talk about how your boss Hillary lost 6 billion dollars of the publics money

>40 years

Trumps dad only died 17 years ago

>200 million
The inheritance was split 5 ways.

Your math is all fucked up bro.

>a firm no comment

WOAH

TRUMP BTFO!

>no comment
Oh my this is serious

You are insane if you think this could be done with turbo tax. The NOL itself isn't a big deal. The shit that generated the NOL is not. The appraisals, discounting, and other accounting will take qualified professionals.

...

The New York Times is an absolute disaster. Sad! It would be, like, its the worst paper anyone's ever seen. Un-believable. Who the hell knows? Nobody reads it! This newspaper is loosing: big league. Believe me.

Not an argument

It was his Casinos in Atlantic City that he filed Chapter on.

THAT is why the JewYork Times picked his tax returns from 20 years ago... because THAT on wrote off two casinos worth several hundred MILLION a piece!

That way they can manipulate the retards who hardly know how to fill out a W-4 form and say:

>OMG SEE!!! HE CHEATED PAYING A BILLION DOLLARS IN TAXES!! IT SHOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN TO THE POOR AND BLACK PEOPLE BUT THE RICH RACIST WHITE MAN STOLE IT FROM YOU SO HE COULD BUY ANOTHER GOLD PLATED YACHT!!!

in the hopes people get mad and don't vote for him.

Plus they obtained them illegally and it'll be interesting to see how this is handled... because the NYT did indeed break the law by doing this.

Casinos went bankrupt in 91 and 92 not 95 tho

>how I picture them in my minds eye when I read their posts

this will be overshadowed by julian's #OCTOBERSURPRISE

All this is proving is that Trump is a shrewd businessman and that all the elite wealthy people, Trump/Clinton/NYT, all find the same ways to avoid paying taxes.

No, it was JIDF I thought? Jews, libs... im so confused iron pilled user

Incidentally chapter 11 would likely result in income due to cancelled debt. Some could be from the casino, this looks like a massive devaluation of assets - real estate losses.

>Welp, it was fun while it lasted, guys...

The amount of times I have seen this phrase on here is uncountable.

This is a non-issue.

Hillary actually has blood on her hands from Iraq, Lybia, Benghazi, and now the guy who released info to Wikileaks.

Clinton paid over 30% effective tax rate tho. How much did trump pay again? Oh you don't know...right. Cause Trump is hiding something by not releasing his tax returns.

Losing a billion dollaes to save a fraction of that over the next 18-20years in taxes. Truly 4d chess

how long do you think it took him to settle the bankruptcy proceedings on multi million dollar holdings?

You realize you can't write it off legally until that is done right?

A write off of debt results in taxable income.

If this were true there would be millions of billionaires

-Checked- XYZ4 -Isle of Man-

The fact you think having a job or a career makes you a slave speaks a lot more about you than it does about Trump. Way to reveal your power level.

Argentina, the land of the fucking gangsters who don't work and only move cocaine. Could you live in a shittier shithole if you could. Odd how it's always the braindead third world crime infested shitholes that act like their opinions on US politics matters and like they know what they're talking about.

You don't even know what a civilized society looks like, let alone one that doesn't fucking stink because it's people actually shower more than once a month in a bath tub, not in a fucking dirty ass garbage river, and with soap not just rubbing shitwater on your face.

Bet hey can't expect a pig to know it stinks. Can't expect a retard to know he's retarded.

>CNN's reliable sources

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHABAHAHABABHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAGAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

gawker 2.0 coming

Ah, yes. Who better than the villain to "fix" the security system? Engligger logic, right there. Go suck your queenis, serf

His mythology is based on his business "genius". He's a fucking fraud running a higher-stakes con.

Beats the woman who has spent her entire life creating that corrupt system, and helping it work for foreign entities

Unless he did it illegally, fuck off.

Maybe we could judge just how legal or illegal or shady his tax returns returns are IF HE WOULD FUCKING RELEASE THEM LIKE EVERY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN THE PAST 40 FUCKING YEARS

What would you do if your lawyer told you not to release your tax returns during an audit?

If I were running for president, I would release my tax returns.
How about 2014 returns? 2013? Are those being audited too?

This. Trump wrote about all this shit in his fucking books. But since the average American cannot read, they believe only images on TV or a computer screen.

Trump has been audited many, many times over the years. If he had been doing something illegal tax-wise, you can be damn good and sure MSM would be running with it.

All nominees have, not all candidates for president have. And it is, of course, not required.

"Of the thirty-four candidates who ran during that time period (covered by the article), only seven—Jerry Brown, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, Steve Forbes, Rudy Giuliani, Richard Lugar, and Ralph Nader—have refused to release their tax returns altogether."
mentalfloss.com/article/29757/do-presidential-candidates-always-release-their-tax-returns-also-photo-mitt-romney

>Jerry Brown, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, Steve Forbes, Rudy Giuliani, Richard Lugar, and Ralph Nader—have refused to release their tax returns altogether."
None of those assholes were serious contenders. But I stand corrected

No you're not.

>Trump has been audited many, many times over the years. If he had been doing something illegal tax-wise, you can be damn good and sure MSM would be running with it.

They may be starting to, as his returns seem to be leaking out.

He would have been wiser to release them months ago; if there is anything damaging in them, it would have blown over by now. Having it dribble out now, late in the race, and outside of the campaign's control, is dangerous.

My own suspicion is that there is nothing particularly bad in them, or illegal, but probably they indicate very little charitable giving (we know that he substantially stopped donating to his family foundation some time ago, from filings of the foundation ) and probably that he does not make as much money as he has bragged that he does (which would explain why he stopped supporting his foundation.)

But who knows?

The problem is that the monster in the dark room is always bigger and scarier than it is when you bring it into the light. Trump should have brought this into the light long ago.

This. I don't think I'm even being biased when I agree with that sentiment. He's a businessman who used legal means to pay less taxes. Nobody actually gives a shit about this, but the media has to come up with something because they know some October Surprises are coming up on Clinton soon.

the media has to come up with something because trump wont release his tax return. There, ftfy

>look at this dirt we've got on Trump!
>it's nothing
>well do you have anything else?
>no
>DRUMPF BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

Oh no! Not nothing!

>Trump and Hillary are now on similar levels of shadiness and incompetence. The only distinguishing factor between them is experience and temperament, and Hillary wins that battle easily.

This. These faggots think Trump gives a shit about MAGA.

I have to say this due to how shit both choices are for president but how is Trump the better choice? He is a terrible businessman after losing millions, terrible soldier after being considered unfit, terrible statesman after the debate showed and goes against the founding fathers as the quote goes by Benjamin Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Clinton is dodgy and shit too but I find this cult thing round Trump to be strange.

This is you in the Donald Duck costume. You're retarded and the entire nation knows it now. Fuck off.

>checks flag
You simply don't understand if you aren't a middle aged American who has lived in the US and seen all this shit since the 80's. The road to hell is the slow one, gentle under slope, no sudden turns, no shortcuts, no sign postings. America has been on the gentle slope to hell since I've been alive and conscious (born in 1975). Trump represents a change in that path, and while he leaves some things to be desired, I think he's the better of the two choices by a mile.

They're criticizing him for his tax returns though. Your post makes no sense.

>Trump audited every year
>Not in jail for tax evasion or fraud

Wow it's nothing

Hillary is far shadier and is responsible for thousands of deaths. Not to mention she seemed to be genuinely incompetent and sociopathic when perpetrating those deaths to boot. Her experience isn't good, certainly not for the people of the Levant and North Africa and elsewhere.

the tax returns we have were leaked and are 0 years old....it would be nice to have the more recent ones, but Trump has not released them, as is customary for presidential nominees

Why do liberals understand nothing about taxes?

Why do they think income tax is the only tax?

But they are criticizing him for the tax returns they do have, which were obviously leaked by him are a nonissue anyway. Again, I stand by:

*and are a nonissue

tax returns include wages, capital gains, dividend income, rents and profits from closely held corporations. The very large majority of any rich persons taxes should be on those tax return forms. what other forms of tax should we be considering?

your uncle is a crook and needs to use that money to pay for my college so says her majesty Lady Clinton

Guiiiiiiiiiiiilty :^)

polls are starting to look ugly.

even Rasmussen has Clinton up 3, today.

I honestly hope you are right as the world is going to shit as the state of society and politics we have is a sad broken reflection of it.

Some of the criticism may be over the top, I will grant you that. But in the absence of recent tax returns, folks gotta go with what theyve got. And if Trump leaked these himself, he made a very major mistake, they do not make him look good. Having a billion dollar loss on your returns is pretty nasty black mark for someone running on their business record.

Interesting that they wouldn't even spell his name correctly in the URL

some people have trouble speaking his name correctly

>folks gotta go with what theyve got.
No they don't. They want to find something to criticize him over because of the Bernie tape debacle.

>And if Trump leaked these himself, he made a very major mistake, they do not make him look good. Having a billion dollar loss on your returns is pretty nasty black mark for someone running on their business record.
That's not what they're criticizing him for. They're criticizing him for not paying taxes.

stump

>hurr durr we now love paying taxes since trump doesnt
the dissonance is incredible

Only Trump can be so stupid, to take the chances to go into business ventures, hiring thousands of workers and building something even at a loss.

Smart people are just giving 20 minutes speeches at 250.000 USD a pop, instructing bankers and wall street sharks how to do business, and 2 hours later naming those very bankers as the greedy 1%ers in front of a semi-literate student auditorium - also for a modest fee.

Since the debate, he's down in the polls by around 4 points.
It will be interesting to see if post-debate polls dump him even lower. And it will be interesting to see if this tax stuff keeps him there, pulls him lower still, or if he rebounds.

For now, he's down. For some reason, whenever people who're not already Trump supporters are forced to listen to him for longer than a soundbite (RNC, debate), he goes down.

Every time.

>That's not what they're criticizing him for. They're criticizing him for not paying taxes.
Oh, they are criticizing him for not paying taxes AND for losing all that crazy amount of money
>They want to find something to criticize him over because of the Bernie tape debacle.
I dont even know what the bernie tape debacle is. Is that the DNC email thing? I just dont see it that way. Of course Trumps business record should be 100% part of this debate of who should be our next president. Thats what he has offered up as his skill/expertise. Of course, any media outlet that gets new information about it should report on it. Whether such reporting is disingenuous is another question. I'm sure some of it is disingenuous.
>We love illegals now, cause overlord trump doesnt pay taxes, no one should have to
Talk about dissonance...

you have to ask who are they polling?
hint: women and niggers

>implying i liked paying taxes before i learned trump didn't
>implying i did love illegals before trump said to hate them
>implying

>similar levels of shadiness

Hah! No one I can think of comes anywhere near the level of that lying old witch. When she dies, the world will be a much safer place for it.

The New York Times used the same tax exemption
youtube.com/watch?v=0RbWMvSJsTU
zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump
Source is in the zerhedge article
>While not on the scale of Trump's business "operating loss", Hillary Clinton - like many 'wealthy' individuals is taking advantage of a legal scheme to use historical losses to avoid paying current taxes

>hint: women and niggers

How DARE they poll a massive voter block? :^)

I'm going to miss him desu

I would be richer if I could see the future and buy a lotto ticket. It wouldn't raise sky scrapers and create jobs though.

Get fucked.

can anyone tell me in which book did Trump talk about it?

>I'm going to miss him desu

We all are, his heart was in the right place. I just wish he could have had both the courage and the political capital do go after the bankers and reign in the finance sector a bit.

>Oh, they are criticizing him for not paying taxes AND for losing all that crazy amount of money
They're really not at all. The narrative has been all about not paying taxes because people already knew he lost money in the 90s, then got it back again. The NYT was reporting that months ago trying to connect his bounce-back to Russian financiers.

>I dont even know what the bernie tape debacle is. Is that the DNC email thing? I just dont see it that way. Of course Trumps business record should be 100% part of this debate of who should be our next president. Thats what he has offered up as his skill/expertise. Of course, any media outlet that gets new information about it should report on it. Whether such reporting is disingenuous is another question. I'm sure some of it is disingenuous.

Some? Kek, you're living under a rock. How can you not even know about Bernie tape leak, but you pretend to be an expert on the tax non-story? Hilarious.

Congratulations on your victory Madame President.

Trump is going to jump from the roof of Trump Tower before this is over.

What's ctr? Best I found was click through rate.
Can someone redpill me on internet shills.please?

>these fucking headlines

I saw one this morning that referred to him as a terroristic toddler.

>How DARE they poll a massive voter block? :^)

then present it as unbiased statistics

he didn't broke any law, he just avoided the taxes that every american tries/does also the taxes your Hillary helped raise

keep trying harder shills

CTR
correct the record
hillary's meme warfare pac

>I saw one this morning that referred to him as a terroristic toddler.

More like terrorist coddler. He's Putin's servant, after all :^)

>then present it as unbiased statistics

You should totally get to unskewing the numbers, buddy.

>people that will never create jobs for other people blasting Trump's business history

Why do so many liberals use his 4 bankrupts as an argument. It also pisses me off when people say he could have made more money if he just invested the money his dad gave him rather than acknowledge he has employed thousands of people with that money instead.

Doesn't the FBI recruit hackers to help with cyber-security?

This win bought, er brought to you by the devil. She got a bad deal, she should have stipulated that she also wouldn't age so horribly in her contract

>Drumpf

Why is this a meme? Isn't the dig against Trump that he hates immigrants and this means he is a bad guy?

Why is it then acceptable to make fun of his immigrant family's name? Because it sounds funny?

im sure there are already 50 threads dedicated to that

Letting non-landowners vote was a bad idea.

>help with cyber-security

The aspects of which are, I hear, very, very tough, which you would know if you had a 10 year old son who was, like, so good with computers, it's unbelievable.

Lurk moar before asking "durr, can u guyz redpilll me on X" or "I don't get teh joke!!1!1" next time.

CTR stands for Correct the Record. Do your own research on them, or lurk moar.

>im sure there are already 50 threads dedicated to that

So it's settled, then. Trump landslide victory. Book it. Done.

>They're really not at all.
Maybe you should go read the NYTimes articles yourself, pal
>Bernie tape
Had to google it. It wouldve made more sense to me if you had said the tape of Hillary making fun of bernie supporters...wouldve understood that...

Ha, I'm using that the next time I hear anybody say Drumpf.

The bankers were the one who backed his campaign over McCain's. That's why he won at all.

The guy is a war criminal responsible for millions of destroyed lives. He's a piece of shit.

Thanks user. How do people even get that job? It sounds comfy desu. Shitposting and all you can eat hit pockets are very tempting. that and you actually get paid lol
Hillary and memes I don't know about though. They must be pure cringe.

Please. The bankers own them all, which is why they give to both Republicans and Democrats equally. Just like Trump used to to.

hell yeah bby

>Maybe you should go read the NYTimes articles yourself, pal
I did. The focus is on his avoidance of taxes, as I've said (ironically, what the NYT is also "guilty" of doing). The story of him losing money in the 90s was not the focus because that is very old news.

>>Bernie tape
>Had to google it. It wouldve made more sense to me if you had said the tape of Hillary making fun of bernie supporters...wouldve understood that...
Yeah, that one was a real leap to make.

im not sure but they've already been proven to not make the memes on our claiber

You are incorrect. They gave more to Obama, and they've given far more to Clinton than Trump this time around (if they've given anything at all).

Can't he sue for this shit? Maybe the NY times is gonna be the next gawker.

I didn't claim they gave to Trump. I claim he used to same method of bribing both sides like the bankers do.

And I'm saying they give more to the side they prefer, which is what happened in 2008.

Kek
Where did I post about not getting the joke?
And I've been here longer than this board has existed. I can't keep track of everything all the boards do.
tl;dr go fuck your salty asshole

>And I'm saying they give more to the side they prefer

They, too, seem to prefer the lesser evil, much like the majority of the electorate.

Good.

No, they prefer the candidate more willing to do them favors. That makes them the worse of the two evils since we're talking about crooks like Goldman Sachs here who donated four times to Obama than McCain.

>polls are a conspiracy!!!!!

>hat makes them the worse of the two evils since we're talking about crooks like Goldman Sachs here who donated four times to Obama than McCain.

Maybe Goldman Sachs prefers people who didn't get captured by the Viet Cong.

Maybe Goldman Sachs prefers the young, unconnected Senator with no experience that they can easily manipulate and bend to their will?

>Maybe Goldman Sachs prefers the young, unconnected Senator with no experience that they can easily manipulate and bend to their will?

That's some 3D chess right there. Amazing, Trump must have taught them everything he knows.

>Oh, they are criticizing him for not paying taxes AND for losing all that crazy amount of money
It's a shame none of them will have a billion dollars to lose, and that none of them will bounce back.

You don't get to have that much power and influence if you aren't playing 3D chess.