>"When you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it but a lot of people can't handle it. They see horror stories, they see events you couldn't see in a movie, nobody would believe it," Trump said Monday, during a panel interview at the Retired American Warriors PAC, in Herndon, Virginia.
they're trying to spin it as Trump saying "suicidal people are weak", and since liberals are often suicidal it will give liberals a reason to think Trump just said they're weak, which in turn makes liberals hate trump more.
Xavier Fisher
(((CNN)))
Caleb Myers
It's true.
t. veteran
Nicholas Hernandez
I thought being a victim was considered a positive thing in this country.
Christian James
so it's a win win right?
Cooper Hughes
>cnn
Kayden Gutierrez
They're making it sound worse than it really is. He isn't calling soldiers pussies for not brushing off horrible, PTSD inducing shit
Grayson Mitchell
There's nothing wrong with it. He's playing it straight and seriously saying that they can't handle going on with their lives anymore. It's being taken out of context to suggest that he's insulting them, while he's actually sympathizing with them.
He's trying to say that their lives are being ruined and they're put into conditions so bad that they can't stand to live any more. There are so many things wrong with the spin on this. It's pathetic, honestly really upsetting.
The way they're treating this quote is made so much worse by the reality. He's completely right, and they're trying to direct people away from this fact. In effect, CNN is doing what they're accusing him of.
Elijah Turner
'they can't handle it'=== bored shitless. No amount of cocaine and meth can give you the high ever again.
t.Deus Vult
Juan Sanchez
>(((cnn)))
David Jackson
The problem is, a lot of people in the US military aren't fighters mentally. They didn't join to protect their nation and fuck shit up, they joined to pay for college or the """life experience""" or some other meme shit.
The other problem is the military is completely cucked. I was in one of the rare positions that carries a gun every day, and I STILL was told more about racism and sexual harassment than I was told about terrorism. Show ISIS' greatest hits to every soldier/sailor/marine/airman, and I guarantee you that PTSD rates will go down.
Ryan Ward
This, 100%. Some guys thrive on that adrenaline high, and are able to rationalize and cope with killing. Other guys are completely hollowed out and destroyed by the experience. You'll never know which type you are until you experience it. This hasn't changed since the dawn of civilization.
Trump said nothing wrong, and there isn't a legitimate veteran who would disagree with him.
t. USMC combat vet, OEF/OIF
Cooper Lewis
This is the other side of it. Civilian life is fucking gay and boring. I'm sitting here in fucking leaf land instead of shooting guns and raising hell with the lads. It sucks in a lot of ways.
David Diaz
We just fucking had this thread, the other one is still up
Fuck I hate this board, if I wasn't so depressed I would never visit you faggots
Ryder Sanchez
What's next, (((CNN))) saying Trump is a downer for believing in gravity?
Ryan Jackson
I'm a veteran.
I have PTSD.
He is not wrong. No shame in it. A rose is still a rose by any other name.
Michael Garcia
Well put.
Joseph Gomez
>veteran >PTSD Are you even trying?
Grayson Bell
Not anymore, no. Consider your record corrected.
Christopher Sanchez
>Not anymore, no. f
Brandon Adams
Ditto Oorah brother USMC OIF 0311
Mason Reed
who does this convince?
Aren't independents by definition more intelligent than the partisans? Doesn't this shit just act as masturbation material for people already shilling for hill?
Blake Jenkins
Well he's not wrong. By definition suicides are people who cannot handle life.
They should get help, but he's not denying that.
Gavin Peterson
No. Undecided voters are the biggest retards on the planet.
Levi Collins
It's obvious Trump is coming from a place of sympathy.
I saw a huffpo headline along the lines of "DONALD TRUMP ADMITS HE WAS ATTRACTED TO 12 YEAR OLD PARIS HILTON". In the interview Trump says he thought Paris was a beautiful 12 year old girl, but that he doesn't think of any under 25 in a sexual manner. He literally just said a little girl looked pretty. These shitty tactics are the reason people are so turned off by MSM and turning to Trump.
Noah Ramirez
Fucking hell.
Gavin Lewis
I'm sending you a virtual hug, user.
Isaiah Nelson
Goddamn this piece of shit, can't he just talk about kitties and puppies instead of controversial stuff?
I mean this is why we can't have nice things.
Talk about an adrenaline junkie, this guy is the same thing for controversy, you can't just say some soldiers are too weak, some are too strong, that's just going to piss people off.
Why can't he just chill for 40 days and win the fucking election with ease, rather than constantly evening the polls with him and Hillary because he HAS TO be Trumpian.
It's because he loves to piss people off, it's an addiction for him, that is my only explanation for how much self-destructive crap he spews.
Sorry I am not CTR just very frustrated, he could have easily won this election and if he loses we'll point to moments like these.
Levi Adams
How does the rest of the team feel? You should turn your offices into an insurance claim. If you arent trying anymore, then fuck it. Is Ctr really a magnum opus? Do something with your life bro.
Leo Gutierrez
This actually sounds like a sensitive comment to me. The media should be ashamed of themselves for trying to twist this into something else. He's saying what the soldiers witnessed is so horrible that their brains just can't comprehend it.
Jose Hill
Media wants to use ANYTHING to smear because nothing is working to stop him
Aiden Torres
Oh shit!!! Are you telling me CNN is embellishing a story and trying to smear Trump!?!?! WTF is the world coming to??!!!?!
Ethan Bennett
How is this controversial, and how can it "piss people off?" He's trying to remind people that veterans are suffering.
Hudson Richardson
Great, another artificial 'controversy'. Trump could say he loves puppies and the media would spin it in some way to be a controversial statement >Trump admits sexual attraction to puppies!!
David Adams
Is this one of those blue/gold dress things, and there's some perspective i'm just not understanding? How the flying fuck could you interpret "They see horror stories, they see events you couldn't see in a movie, nobody would believe it" as anything other than absolute sympathy?
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY FUCKING SEE THAT AS DISPARAGING
Leo Walker
>You're not allowed to talk about things that I'm comfortable with; such as veterans who commit suicide because they aren't able to handle PTSD
You're a sad excuse for an American.
Brody King
Nothing he said was wrong. Committing suicide usually means you can't handle whatever you're going through in life. I think that servicemen should be able to go to any hospital, doctor or psychiatrist that they want, enough of the VA. That would solve some problems at least.
Ayden Reyes
Trump will slash a puppy's throat on live TV and Cred Forums will defend him
Eli Morris
>soldiers kill hemseves because they can't handle the last 20 years of endless war perpetuated by the establishment including Clinton
This is TRUE
Parker Evans
In comparison to him, right here, shining a light on how veterans from time to time commit suicide because PTSD is so overwhelming?
Jaxon Smith
F
James Russell
Fuck, abhorrent as it is, I'd respect him for having the balls to do so.
Zachary Clark
Stay strong brother.
Christian King
It's actually really disgusting how they are trying to say these words were meant to be hurtful.
Rape,all the (((media))) to death.
Jayden Peterson
CNN acting like people willingly commit suicide because they're doing well in life?
Nathaniel Turner
Stay strong.
Michael Scott
It's funny how they're bungling this. It shows how scared they really are.
And I say that as someone who recognizes Trump is a complete fucking idiot, even if he seems to have his heart in the right place a lot of the time.
The point is if you want to attack Trump, he spits out a stupid comment every 5 minutes. Genuinely politically suicidal stuff. But instead they try their usual game and lie and distort. Which just means that the people who look it up or see two sides (that is, non partisan people - the very people they're trying to influence) just get more jaded.
We're amazingly in a situation where the media has less influence than ever despite wider reach than ever.
Camden Brooks
>Trump told the truth, but he's Hitler.
HOW DARE YOU!!!
Owen Martinez
My guess: Americans just aren't used to not sucking the veterans cocks. Your people get outraged at any bad thing you say about them.
Ryder Carter
Thanks for the service bro.
Angel Phillips
This isn't a bad thing to say. If you commit suicide you decided that you couldn't overcome your problems. This is true in and out of uniform.
Josiah Evans
stay strong, vetbro. thank you for protecting our country.
Gavin Watson
what's the alternative? why do liberals think that returned servicemen off themselves? haunted by the restless spirits of the fallen?
do liberals believe in spooky ghosts?
Noah Mitchell
It's true.
There is almost nothing in modern day wars that would warrant people being that fucked up that they go home and kill themselves. People in WWI and WWII saw way worse shit and their suicide rate was much lower.
It's because the military nowadays attracts people whose lives are generally pretty shit. Most grunts are married to fat whores who cheat on them while they're away. Their kids are usually spoiled brats. They're usually lower middle-class and even with all of the free shit they get, they're still stupid as fuck for the most part and are therefore unfit for any kind of job except retail and warehousing.
They kill themselves because their lives are complete shit and they're too weak to stomach it. The combat might contribute to that but it's not the cause.
Camden Jenkins
best part of this being taken out of context is how mad everyone will be when they hear the actual quote.
Liam Smith
F
Alexander Allen
Stay strong, we need our Vets to stand against the tides of Islam that will still try to knock at our door. Here in the States, you don't stand alone.
Bentley Green
H-have a hot chick, bro.
Ethan Garcia
>not anymore fug
Ryan Gomez
He is saying some veterans (the ones that commited suicide) are weak. That's bad enough for the cucks to go "b-but they defended our country! h-how can you say that about them?"
Cameron Hughes
How is he wrong? Many join thinking it would be like COD, and they completely lose their shit when reality hits them. He's 6million% right.
Adrian Butler
Implying (((they))) will ever state the actual quote on air.
Leo Lee
Trump couldn't even handle being drafted
Caleb Clark
>mfw this misquote completely backfires on the libfags and normies will hate them even more for it
Keep digging retards
Lucas Lee
Have you ever even met someone from the Infantry or SOF?
I've never served with anyone in my entire life who was like that.
Joshua Carter
Neither could Bill.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Thomas Taylor
>checked There's a lot more than seeing dead insurgents that go into a soldier committing suicide.
Jeremiah Green
soldiers are nothing more than welfare queen niggers too dumb for a real job so they want a free ride on my tax dollars when they get their feelings hurt playing butt buddy in the desert like a bunch of faggots.
Adam Allen
Stay strong, man.
Kevin Cooper
...
Levi Carter
Spoken like a true Liberal.
Juan Perez
trump lost
Dominic Butler
you're the cuck who welcomes niggers to stick their hands in your pockets and their dicks in your wives. Name one good reason we should support the largest socialist institution in the history of the world?
Elijah Powell
This phrase is all about context
Can't handle it can be construed in two ways: That they're individually weaklings who can't handle it That it's a thing that cannot be handled
He means the latter
Tyler Sanders
F
Jackson Sanchez
They killed themselves.... but they can handle it.
Angel Sullivan
I've spoken to a 31 year vet of the Marine Corps who served since Vietnam. Told me straight up those who come out of war with PTSD are just a bunch of pussies who couldn't hack it.
Jace Morris
I love you smsggs, i love you.
so does tay tay.
Kevin Thomas
Hey man keep it together, we'll all make it in the end
Nicholas Sanchez
nigga he is a veteran you fucking retard. holy shit. gas yourself.
Carter Davis
>Are you even trying?
>Not anymore, no.
i dont get it
Joshua Cruz
is there another reason to commit suicide aside from you "can't handle it"?
sounds like the only reason to commit suicide.
Jaxson Adams
he is a veteran who is depressed.
but we are here for him, anons are here for him.
Oliver Bennett
:( shame
stay strong
Christopher Scott
Liberals are weak though. That's fact.
Asher Carter
>literally changing my life path to become a clinical psychologist, something that will take me five years to accomplish, so I can help people with ptsd after my pal from highschool came home so fucked he couldn't deal with it >the lying press is using sincere words of support directed towards people like him for spin
I'm mad.
Eli King
I fucking hate the press.
Cameron Long
>people who can't handle it commit suicide This is a tautology. It's like saying that thirsty people drink fluids, or woodchucks chuck wood. It's literally an unimpeachable statement. Anyone who thinks this makes good ammo for a political firefight has fallen for a red herring.
Jason Miller
man, who dis?
Dylan Thompson
The only good liberal nigger is Kanye West
Easton Bennett
The entire suicide is for the weak thing is actually a horrible spin, since one of Donald Trump's own brothers died from issues stemming alcohol abuse and depression. This is going to turn into a massive Trump sympathy session.
Josiah Diaz
It is very true. 2015 JAMA article showed combat vets with honorable discharge are less likely to an hero than gen pop. Fuck ptsd goldbrickers
T. Vet
Anthony Johnson
Sounds like he's saying we need to provide more help to veterans suffering from PTSD, particularly veterans at a higher risk of suicide.
Trump could say that nobody should kick puppies, and the media would still twist it in a way that makes him look back.
Jace Robinson
1. How do soldiers with no combat experience get PTSD?
2. Is PTSD more prevalent in Army?
3. Why Marine is better
Ryder Sanchez
Well yeah, why the fuck would you commit suicide if you can take everything that life throws at you?
Charles Garcia
Hillary wasn't even eligible for the draft.
Charles Smith
Thing is though, not everyone who ever offed themselves after serving their country has been involved in combat. Some have strained families, some experience severe isolation after they get out, etc.
Nathan Long
If trump and pence are a lion and a wolf, what does that make americans?
Jose Lopez
This
20+ veterans a day have a hard time coping and choose to end it.
Democrats couldn't give a flying fuck until it becomes a political talking point
Joseph Cooper
The pride
Samuel Perry
Since when did dems and libtards even give a fuck about veterans. Oh I guess when it helps them insult Trump.
Jaxson Lee
PTSD combat vet also.
One day at a time user.
Hope you're just being salty like me
Chase Watson
If he talked about kitties CNN would find a way to twist it
Aiden Richardson
Accurate I remember the first time I lit someone on fire. I'll never fucking forget it. I didn't sleep for days.
Aiden Thompson
>I remember the first time I lit someone on fire. I'll never fucking forget it. I didn't sleep for days.
That's some deep stuff there
Asher Cox
How many soldiers actually enjoy war and combat?
The only way I can conceptualize it is from what I've heard, that' its a potent combination of fear, love, courage, sadness, adrenaline, feeling like a badass, scared shitless all at the same time.
Jordan Davis
Headline: Trump implies that some puppies 'deserve a good kick'
>5 clicks, a pop-up, and a 30 second commercial later.
10/03/16 Trump today gave a speech today to a dispropotionally white and male audience (not surprising) of animal rights activists. He was quoted as saying, "pets are helpless and they are innocent. Anyone that delights in say, the kicking of a puppy, or any such dependent creature, are cowards and do not belong in this or any civilized society." However trump declined to say whether he believes that all puppies do not deserve to be kicked. He seemed to imply quite the opposite in fact. I am sure we will hear more on his anti-pup positions at a later date. The man puts his foot in his mouth every other day and his past hate speech is well documented on this website.
Jack Bell
It's really getting hard to defend him. I like Trump but he acted like a complete baby in the debate. It was hard to watch, and now he's saying shit like this.
I want him still, but I think he's legitimately sub 115 IQ.
Josiah Evans
then why are they able to strong arm all the social policies and laws. You call them weak as they take away all yours rights.
Gabriel Allen
un fucking believable i knew there was more to the story than that i just don't care enough anymore to get to the bottom of every pseudoscandal
fuckin a
Levi Flores
Bet you are an 88M or something shitty.
marines suck
You can suffer from adjustment disorder simply due to how completely different living down range (even as a fobbit) compared to back home.
Yeah they'll pretend to care and then slash our budget to ribbons so our readiness is rock bottom by the time our new conflict comes.
I enjoyed it.
Kayden Jackson
It's fucking not outrageous desu senpai, it's the best thing he can say about our fucked up military without going tinfoil, because trust me the VA is a behemoth atrocity.
Brandon Long
Kebab was taking cover behind the wall of a building and there was an oil lamp burning just above him so I shot it and it turns out video game logic does work sometimes.
Julian Richardson
>How the fuck is wrong? Why is this an outrageous comment? He's 100% right.
It is totally correct.
>"When you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it but a lot of people can't handle it. They see horror stories, they see events you couldn't see in a movie, nobody would believe it,"
There is a trait called psychological resiliency. Every will react to traumatic events to different degrees. Some people are more psychologically resilient to certain trauma than other people. Some people will develop issues from trauma more than others. Training can even bolster the resilience of a subject. That's why drill instructors yell and get in your face. It's stress inoculation, so that you'll develop resilience in the face of stressful situations.
Yes it is. I had an intake appointment and literally never went back. Bought private insurance the next day.
Andrew King
Completely out of context. Cut part of the quote and then made a headline out of it. Liberals and Hillary drones jump all over it without reading the full transcript.
Should Trump go after Hillary's comments on millenials? They'll say she was simply characterizing Bernie supporters and not shitting on them. Of course the media is full of marxists and lies. Anything they can do, even break the law like the NYT to try and keep him out of the White House.
Cooper Watson
It's not wrong at all. The kikes just love to misconstrue things with their dirty lying mouths.
Luke Bennett
put me in the cap
Lucas Myers
Man, I love that headline.
They put a colon after Donald Trump to heavily suggest that he said the following quote. Yet they have quotes around the only 3 words that he actually said.
It's just pure deception. I guess that's (((CNN))) for you.
Camden Peterson
Same here. Just be aware there is a lot of progressive bull shit we have to wade through to get there
Joshua Edwards
How dare he tell me to quit smoking and lose 100 pounds.
Chase Price
My F-est F. Best wishes.
Jordan Perez
Fucking prick
Parker Cooper
This comment makes me so fucking mad. I had to live with a father with PTSD who abandoned my mother and i because he couldn't fucking live without waking up screaming and crying like a child
Fucking every night he would scream and I would walk in to turn on the lights while my mother held him down to stop him from clawing his flesh off. I was fucking 6. I had to live with his suffering. I had to see every moment where he devolved into nothing but pain
He was abusive but even as a fucking kid I knew that he was always hurting much more than I ever would
Fucking get murdered, CTR.
Levi Rodriguez
what war?
Owen Rodriguez
i really love 4chanX
Isaac Nelson
Killing yourself is the greatest possible form of not being able to handle things
William Lewis
I agree, but wasn't Hillary's basement dweller comment basically the same? Many Bernie supporters were literally stuck in their parents' basements because of a shitty economy.
Benjamin Cruz
How many on Cred Forums have an heroed in the past 2 weeks? Sort of a rhetorical question.
Colton Hall
>people commit suicide because they can't handle it this is the literal truth, this is why you commit suicide.
Aaron Long
Gulf and Iraq. He went to the Gulf to secure us citizenship from Canada and Iraq to fulfill his contract
Oliver Russell
Trump supporting servicemen are flipping out on the media rn.
She said specifically here that she disagrees with them and that they don't know what they're talking about. She said compared them to le right-wing racist extremists.
I agree with what she said, but Bernie supporters really don't think of themselves that way. She was saying that you shouldn't like or agree with Bernie supporters, while Trump was essentially saying you should feel sorry for veterans and support them.
She was telling the truth, but attacking them in doing so. It's not the same thing.
Brody Nelson
Sorry to hear that, user. It's not fair.
Colton Harris
fpbp
Caleb Anderson
How about those #BasementDwellers?
Alexander Walker
Did you expect them to say sheeples? lol
Adam Lewis
This >OMG HE CALLED VETS w/ PTSD WEAK attack has got to be the most contrived so far this election.