>well

So Cred Forums I've been browsing for about a year and a half and have come to the conclusion that there are distinctive differences between both the races and the genders (male and female; not the bullshit made up ones) so why is there a problem in calling out these differences?

Why are you called a racist when you say that whites are different then blacks genetically giving both races advantages and disadvantages in everyday life? Why have the normies been brainwashed to believe that all subspecies of Homo Sapiens are equal?

>pic related
How can you tell me these two subspecies are 'equal'?

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pnas.org/content/97/9/5003.full.pdf
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the honest answer is The Jews (the race)
and it's the ultimate irony in history.

Obligatory

youtube.com/watch?v=4pNn3gOELAg

Lets say there was differences (even though there are still stupid and smart people of every race), lets say there were 20 percent differences, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 1000000, ...


What then? Then what?

We end affirmative actions and we end calls of racism when we don't see equal outcome in society and representation in all levels of industry and employment. We stop stigmatizing those that seek to educate on that fact that lesser races produce lesser genetic offspring and how race mixing in fact includes a level of self degradation. We look to maximize each race groups potential such as segregated education and government programs.

cont. We also bring back immigration qutoas to insure non replacement levels of white citizens in white developed and settled nations as it will prove these differences do in fact cause results in culture and less compatibility with the original culture of the land and we stop pretending America and other nations would be the same if ANY race was a majority.

What if there was no difference, but a university existed that did not want to accept any of a different race?

If it was privately funded i see no problem

But there is differences and science agrees evolution did not stop at the skin level

In your example i think all races would do better if they had customized education based on these differences instead of like what i had growing up in baltimore listening to niggers stutter syllable words through class while we went to the same schools from k-12

3 syllable*

Pick up the latest scientific american, it has some good info on this.
its not reptiles, but (((extinct))) human species.

I asked what I asked, to try to suggest, that the first and foremost deepest aspect of this, is personal desire and preference. If you believe that a person could be racist, could have a private university that desired not to accept people b, or c, then thats that, it doesnt matter if they are right in being racist or not.

So affirmative action is a problem with public universities?

Should a public university be able to exist, that declares it will not accept people b, or c (in this thought experiment there is no difference, besides aesthetic)?

You would have to prove each individual person was denied due to race but we dont do that and to my knowledge not a single university exists that has a one race policy and tries to enforce it further more I said if its privately funded it should never be a issue what affirmative action is a quota system which ASSUMES racism based on lack of equal outcome knowing and accepting differences exist that will always result in different out comes makes affirmative actions irrelevant and a problem against nature.

You literally made up a issue to suggest affirmative action is the solution.

simple answer is a privately funded university should be able to but ALL public university's should be open to all but not based on a affirmative action quota system as equal outcome is not obtainable based on nature

I said. Should a public university be able to only accept a single race?

NO m8 but if it happens they accept a majority of one based on picking the best of the candidates due to the racial differences no one should enforce quotas or claim racism. Again based on these difference it would not be uncommon for acceptance years to show a lack of shit skins acceptance at all in the face of white and Asian applications.

Affirmative action is a quota system and even gives free points to shit skins based on a lack of representation which is not obtainable in nature due to where these differences fall.

So is the real problem, the lack of (vacancies in) public universities?

>ALL public university's should be open to all
I answered it already but
see for a extension

white people have been cucked so hard that when anyone has a discussion about it they are instantly shut down

I don't see a problem with it m8 this is where the thought experiment comes back on yourself.

I never said anything about the state of vacancies in the schools only that the current model of calling schools racist ant suggesting quotas is not compatible with nature.

Guess what, anthropology is a science mostly studied by leftists.

Also
>1 post by this id

And shit skins have been cucked so hard they deny the reality of race realism because it hurts their feels

What does that have to do with anything m8?

They will never conclude that there exists such a thing as a subspecies or race inside the Homo species.

It's more of a political thing to decide that, rather than a scientific thing. There aren't really any objective criteria to use. It's obviously not an issue of declaring separate species, for that there are criteria.

> or race inside the Homo species
Except we have racial qualifiers in anthropology and general science m8
forensic anthropology relies on these.

Your point is meaning less because the evidence exists and is truly undeniable evolution did not stop at the skin level so the science is already there the opposite of what you suggest is true the political side of the issue is what holds everything back .

humanbiologicaldiversity.com/

There are plenty of anthropologist and anthropological studies that suggest what OP is saying.

>forensic anthropology

I hope you're not talking about cranial morphology, because that's bogus. It's not a reliable measure. It's a known fact individual morphology can vary a lot within the same race, as between races.

This is akin to saying scientist that study physics before newton didn't believe and rallied against his theory's of gravity and therefore the government would never one day institute work safety measure based on heights and gravity physics because its political.

no m8 a African will never have Caucasians skull and neither a mongoloid skull it is used today in police work around the world same with teeth

you guys keep repeating this line but have no reason to suggest it.

Determination of ancestry[edit]

The determination of an individual's ancestry is typically grouped into three historical groups, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. However, the use of these classifications is becoming much harder as the rate of interracial marriages increases and markers become less defined.[33] By measuring distances between landmarks on the skull as well as the size and shape of specific bones anthropologists can use a series of equations to estimate ancestry. Typically, the maxilla is used to help anthropologists determine an individual's ancestry due to the three basic shapes, hyperbolic, parabolic, and rounded, belonging to the three historical ancestries, Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid respectively.[34] In addition to the maxilla, the zygomatic arch and the nasal opening have been used to narrow down possible ancestry.[35] A program called FORDISC has been created that will calculate the most likely ancestry using complex mathematical formulas.[36] This program is continually updated with new information from known individuals to maintain a database of current populations and their respective measurements.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_anthropology#Determination_of_ancestry

You being convinced of something doesn't make the idea true.

And people call racist ideas racist, because that's the literal meaning of the word.

>why do people call water water
Is essentially what you're asking. This is the type of shit that reminds me White People are retarded and racialism is bullshit.

The human dynamic is more like this.
Extremely outstanding humans that are in tune with reality
and
Retards with locomotive skills, that somehow have managed to learn languages but are incapable of maximizing its use.

Hence shit like "why is water called water, omg"

This is the most esoteric drivel I have every seen posted m8

>Race isn't real because my extremely personal reasoning
>Claiming and proving differences in race exist is racism
>evolution stopped at the skin level and to suggest otherwise is simply racism.

Until you find the scientist saying on race is wholly superior tot he other we simple looking at strength and weakness within each group and looking to identify and accept these.

It is literally impossible to differentiate between a black man and a white woman; they are identical in appearance.
Gender does not exist. I appear male, but I use female toilets... well, I linger in them just in case I get the urge.

You trolling, kid?

When did I say race wasn't real.
What do you mean by race.
When did someone post a quantifiable and scientific method of measuring qualities in which these different races outperform the other.
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Okay, just because you're mentally disabled and can't comprehend simple definitions doesn't mean that I've said something wrong. In fact, what is your point. That the textbook definition of racism is...not a preferable word to use to describe textbook example of racism because you don't like the connotations that it carries?
And no one proved that differences in races existed. Don't get ahead of yourself.
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If the difference that you propose fit in the textbook definition of racism's definition, then yeah. It's racist. Are you some sort of idiot? You don't understand how adjectives work?

Trying to sugar coat and minimize your beliefs as it being a simple acknowledgement of point where different human excels doesn't prove you right nor does it have any relevance.

Again m8 its a fact racial diffrecnes exist genetically and result in strength and weaknesses

the text book definition of racims is
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

So unless you can find someone suggesting one is wholly superior to the other and not different with its own strength and weakness you are misusing the word
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism

It has exact relevance because the differences in where races excel produce unequal outcome and therefore society can not be held to produce equal outcome by nature

you are construing this point to mean oppression of some kind and outright denying science and the fact evolution did not stop at the skin level and produces these strength and weaknesses.

Its that simple.

>When did someone post a quantifiable and scientific method of measuring qualities in which these different races outperform the other.
IQ test
genetic testing for alleles and genes attributed to predispositions such as disease, temperament diet requirements and environmental reactions

we can go on and on m8

Yes, they are gathering a big corpus of data but there's not actual reliable way to predict someone's race based on cranial and dental measures only. At the extremes you'll get it right. But there are some black phenotypes which may be tricky to classify.

For example, this study concluded cranial and dental measures are not a reliable way of establishing species phylogeny:

pnas.org/content/97/9/5003.full.pdf

>And no one proved that differences in races existed


wow m8 are you fucking silly

We're all part of the human race. "Race" as Obama has made such a big deal dose not exist. Our race is human.There are different shapes,sizes and types of fish but there all fish. Based on where the fish lives it will have specialized traits for it to survive but it's still just a fishy.

sorry m8 gathering data and currently suing this method effectively and for generations in the past are two different things
HAHAHAA

your simply grasping at studies that have no effect on the fact it is effective and being used today successfully

And some fish are smarter and or stronger than other fish by genetics

all sub species of the animal kingdom share this but humans think we are special when genetically we are more distinct than dog breeds

see

The people who get instantly "shut down" are the true cucks. Arguments are easy. All you have to do is ask them if they believe every species of dog or any animal is the exact same as another.

It's not. I know because I studied some paleoanthropology and this is a known issue.

We got lots of human remains in the Transilvanian region and it's basically impossible to establish their origins only based on bones. You need some type of tissue that can give you workable DNA data.

Sorry m8 your fucking repeating bullshit again forensic anthropology is used by the FBI daily your snow flake cases don't outweigh the rule and that's why ITS CURRENLTY BEING USED BY ALL POLICE FORENSIC LABS and getting more accurate with computer measuring.

Feelings aside, I believe that each race has their strength and weaknesses and true harmony is playing their strength and covering for others' weaknesses.
MMO Trifecta applies: Tank, Damage Dealer, Healer.
Asians can be the innovators, Whites can be the artists, Blacks can be the workers.

arguing whether or not you can determine race of someone by the bones of their dead body is like arguing whether or not 3 dudes on a jet ski is gay or not. Who fucking cares?

The moral of the story is that each race has distinguishable characteristics (physiologically, mentally, emotionally, etc.) and to deny that is absolute nonsense. The argument that you idiots have gotten away from is why is it "racist" to bring up these obvious differences

>Asian
>innovators

literally spending the last decades going from race farmer to making better versions of already established tech

Asians are engineers Whites are Innovators and blacks are laborers

race has nothing to do with strength. There are plenty of strong white people as there are strong black people.

It's bogus science, mate. As I said, the best data is genetic, this bone morphology variance is not a reliable anthropological measure. Whether or not the FBI uses it.

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here, because we already know races do exist. I think what we're arguing over here is about methods to study their differences (or similarities).

But there is genetic predispositions based on race that make ones potential different by nature m8 hence blacks have fast twitch muscle and whites have muscle made for more endurance.

Its like liberals and cucks become 6 years old when talking about race and don't understand averages.

honestly? it's dehumanizing and a little petty

There are great niggers, there are shitty niggers
There are great whites, there are shitty whites
The same applies to any race

What good does it do to make broad generalizations when there are always going to be individuals that falls outside of the mean? All it does it makes shitty whites feel better about themselves.

No m8 its not bogus science or it would not work and be effectively used.

I dont know how to make this simpler for you.

IT IS CURRENLTY IN USE BY ALL POLICE AND EFFECITLY

Determination of ancestry[edit]

The determination of an individual's ancestry is typically grouped into three historical groups, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. However, the use of these classifications is becoming much harder as the rate of interracial marriages increases and markers become less defined.[33] By measuring distances between landmarks on the skull as well as the size and shape of specific bones anthropologists can use a series of equations to estimate ancestry. Typically, the maxilla is used to help anthropologists determine an individual's ancestry due to the three basic shapes, hyperbolic, parabolic, and rounded, belonging to the three historical ancestries, Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid respectively.[34] In addition to the maxilla, the zygomatic arch and the nasal opening have been used to narrow down possible ancestry.[35] A program called FORDISC has been created that will calculate the most likely ancestry using complex mathematical formulas.[36] This program is continually updated with new information from known individuals to maintain a database of current populations and their respective measurements.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_anthropology#Determination_of_ancestry

NO m8 it should make all races understand their genetic predispositions and create a society that does not attempt to force equal outcome b based on these

things like calling it petty are emotional arguments and you frame of mind is white vs black when Asians and Jews for instance excel over others areas

your mind is too cucked to be objective

If you repeat things long enough they become real. Or maybe not. Maybe that's retarded. Maybe you're retarded.

You preposition that the lack of a "race" being superior in every conceivable means that there is no racism, or that you belief aren't racist. Take away from the practical application of your "understanding" of these difference. It's merely a talking point and you know it. It also takes away from the universally understood frame of reference and the only way in which these thoughts were applied. Mostly the societal measurement of the inherent differences that produce different results. At the end of the day the application of the word is always going to be related to the interaction between people and not a fantastical ideal in which people think one group of people is more efficient at clapping for example, than others. Disingenuous or simply incapable of using the word properly. Of course, taking into account you're a racist. You're clearly going to be pro diminishing the meaning of the word.

You only need to focus on the definition you posting, it's the measurement of a variety of qualities to come to a conclusion. The focus of racism, has always been on the final point and not a draconian idea of complete besting in every possible way.

I never implied oppression of anybody, actually. Notice the lack of focus on a group of people doing something but rather in the measurement of the qualities of a group of humans, and it's unscientific way.

>took over a year to figure out there are differences between different races and genders

By the information presented I can only deduce that OP is a blind, retarded, virgin.

>NO m8 it should make all races understand their genetic predispositions and create a society that does not attempt to force equal outcome b based on these
Why not?

Did you earn anything by being born white with your superior white brain?

It's dehumanizing, it's petty.
I agree, but why the severe backlash and strong resistance?

On the individual level, there should be the least racism.
But no person can ever meet every single individual there is and must therefore consult a model to understand general race descriptions.

IQ test does not become scientific because you say so. That's not how science works.
How does disease become relevant to this discussion?
"Temperant diet requirements" and "environmental reactions" Whatever the fuck that means....
Let me be nice, and assume that your scientific illiteracy didn't get in the way of your understanding of whatever paper you read that comes to these conclusions... At best, wouldn't these things be more revealing of being prone to something rather than a statement of people being only capable of "performing" at a certain level?
I mean, we are talking about the humans, right? The ape that walks upright. The ape that if you were to say, leave him on a jungle to fend off for himself would for all intent and purposes regress back to retardation? The ape that can pick and choose what to do above of the primal requirements and feelings? You're saying that this ape, with a consciousness, if it was prone to something, couldn't simply change his way through indoctrination into a particular set of behavior? Because you do realize this is human history right? Humans doing things unnatural to their nature. But environmental reactions is the limit when every single human that participates in any human language is a prime example of just how malleable humans are.

I am suing the linguistic text book definition m8 and your getting into esoteric bullshit

the measurement of differences and how they play out in society is not racist unless you suggest oppressing some one and out casting them based on said differences as fit they wholly are inferior or superior m8

your trying to stretch the word racism to mean any study and identification of the differences of races strength and weaknesses.

there is nothing unscientific about what we are talking about as science is the source of the genetic differences we are suggesting

your really making this more difficult than it is.

Well if you want more proofs, there was a study which examined exactly Fordisc's methodology and the concluded it's erroneous:

Our results suggest to us that Fordisc 2.0 is fundamentally
flawed not only because these types are culturally
mediated but because statistically defined populations
cannot adequately represent the biological
variation that characterizes individuals within each purported
group. The idea that human beings represent distinct
and divisible biological types is rather recent in
human history (Marks 1995), and the lines that are drawn
to make distinctions are based on socioeconomic factors
and historical circumstances rather than strictly on biological
criteria (Armelagos 1995, Goodman 1995, Marks
1995). The type concept relies upon an “idealized” individual
that describes only a minute fraction of the variation
it is intended to represent. Forensic anthropology
has often been called upon to substantiate typological
thinking and to reinforce the type concept itself.
The idea that head type is stable through time and
thus resistant to environmental factors was very popular
among natural scientists from the seventeenth to the
nineteenth century. Mid-twentieth-century physical anthropology
sought to trace independent human lineages
by associating craniofacial remains from past populations
with their supposed modern counterparts (Boule
and Vallois 1957, Coon 1962). During the same period,
several studies demonstrated plasticity of body type
through such processes as developmental acclimatization
(Baker 1969, Frisancho 1970) and migration to new
areas (Shapiro 1939, Bogin 1988).

=cont=

using*

i never understood why its ok to say blacks are more athletic on average but not ok to say whites are smarter on average

=2=

This may help to explain
why European Upper Paleolithic populations do
not resemble modern Europeans (van Vark 1994), why
Kennewick man does not resemble modern Native
Americans (van Vark, Kuizenga, and Williams 2003, contra
Jantz and Owsley 2003), why American-born children
of immigrants resemble their parents less than Europeanborn
children of immigrants do (Boas 1912, contra Sparks
and Jantz 2002), and why Mesolithic Nubians do not
resemble Meroitic Nubians (Van Gerven, Armelagos, and
Rohr 1979). This reflects simply what is known about
the patterns of variation in the human cranium: it is to
some extent an inborn characteristic and also developmentally
very sensitive to the conditions of growth.
While we acknowledge that many scientists are fully
aware of the problems inherent in Fordisc 2.0 and in race
determination generally, our experiment provides a point
of view that is rarely examined within forensic anthropology,
that is, that human cranial populations are suspect
as real biological units equivalent to the cultures,
languages, geographic regions, and social histories they
are intended to represent.

Link to study:

Forensic Misclassification of Ancient Nubian Crania:
Implications for Assumptions about Human Variation

anthropology.emory.edu/FACULTY/ANTGA/Web Site/PDFs/Forensic Misclassification of Ancient Nubian Crania- Implications for Assumptions about Human Variation.pdf

WTF again with this esoteric nonsense

IQ test are scientifically created and measures
Disease prevalence based on race is a fact and even medicines have to be administered and created taking this into account

Diet requirements and environmental reactions create racial differences that allow other races to preform better on different diets and in different environments.

Everything your writing is you shooting words on the screen to deny the fact humans are animals and predisposed to different strength and weaknesses and evolution did not stop at the skin level.

Studies do not make the rule m8 you are posting conflicting results when the simple fact is the methods we are discussing is currently and has been in use for generation effectively and only getting better.

>suggest
>this may

lol at your politically fueled study suggesting races are only seen as different based on "socioeconomic factors and historical circumstances"

your own study is suggesting race is not real m8
your done.

The textbook definition that has always been understood as a behavior in which a group of human think they're better in every possible way. And not one that focuses on the idea of a group of human being at a level above others.
Yes, you're definitely the one sticking to the source.

The measurement of difference and how they play out in society are not racist, true. They become racist when you implied that the difference are caused by the race of people. Again, the definition matters. It's all about the source of the difference, not the difference themselves. (In this case, because you used society I'm focusing on difference rates in quantifiable social positions)

Haven't used the word oppression if only to denounce that it was a part of my point, because it wasn't m8. That white iq is not helping you in dem reading comprehension, bro.

That science is the source of the genetic differences is the cutest way someone has accepted defeat. Blatant trolling out of a lack of argument. Or maybe you're retarded and truly don't understand how stupid that shit was. Either way, you just got btfo. Lmao.

Populations that are separated for 10s of thousands of years are going to evolve differently. If you know how evolution works you know that it doesn't stop at physical attributes.

Why are we even arguing about this? Do you think that all breeds of dogs have the same intelligence? I really don't understand how people are this stupid. It's basic common sense and reasoning.

Yeah, but you are lying about the fact that there is a consensus that this kind of data is reliable.

There are lots of studies which prove cranial and dental measures of racial differences are not a reliable method of identification.

In the USA, this seems reliable to you, because the racial groups which migrated there come from very distant regions, in which they have remained endogamous for a long time.

SO basically what you get in the USA are the extremes of racial characteristics, which make you believe measurements must be a reliable method of prediction.

But once you get out of the USA and try to apply this method elsewhere in the world, it doesn't work.

Now you understood why this is not exactly a scientific method, even though it uses scientific measurements?

It's like social science, they also use maths and measurements, but their conclusions are just volatile nonsense that can change from one decade to another.

well maybe normies don't believe you guys because you post the most nitpicked examples of all time.
>on top we have what looks like a SLP model
>on the bottom a negro with obviously exaggerated features

>think they're better in every possible way
You just fucked your own argument m8

you would have to show where anyone suggested this

The source of the differences do not change the fact they are there and prevent equal outcome based on genetic strength and weakness

everything else you have posted is a fucking joke because your triggered as fuck


HAHAHAHAHA

The Wikipedia entry is from multiple source spanning the world m8

your BTFO

It took you a year an a half? Slooooooooow

>normies
>cherry picking

It's simple you idiot. It's wrong because it's unnecessarily rude.

It's like the white elite viewing you and calling you a stupid white peasant/war fodder or the jews calling you good for nothing cattle.

Fuck you cracker, Slavs are the Master Race.

Obviously cultures played a major role in keeping racial groups together, inter-breeding.

There was a time, before globalisation, when races and cultures were pretty much contiguous.

Scientists do agree that genetic data reveals more about someone's ancestry, than simple phenotypical data, like craniometry.

So yeah cultures did play a major role until recently, since they were basically genetic pools of similar racial characteristics.

youtube.com/user/fringeelements
>IQ and National Statistics

I'm just gonna leave this here.

Nothing esoteric. I'm using your concepts and putting then into perspective. It's all a big analogy. "Humans b inherently differnecze cuz som be like repeatin minute patterns" Okay, but do you see the gigantic leap between a human who is educated and simply just part of society and one that would be left alone, the gigantic difference in molding behavior clearly beats your petty "environmental pre-programmed reaction" thingy. So what do??
BUT SO ESOTERIC, SO VISCERAL, PLZ STOPPZ IT MATE
Come on, kid. How hard is that to understand?

Diseases have nothing to do in a discussion about behavior, was my point, Dude. Jesus.

Nigga, fuck off with the diet shit. Literally, what does that prove relative to the indoctrination into society of every human? Honestly answer this, which one is a bigger and more thorough view at the capabilities of human? Just be honest. Jesus.

Repeating "muh skin not deep" meme doesn't make it any truer. REPETITION IS NOT THE SAME AS EVIDENCE.

It's simple, language and the domestication of every human. To patterns in reactions. WHICH ONE IS OF A BIGGER MAGNITUDE IN REFERENCE TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW HUMANS SHAPE THEIR BEHAVIOR.
Nothing esoteric, simple comparison.

No m8 its simple science and objective science does not deal with emotions the mere fact you used rude in your reply shows your cucked beyond objectivism

racial differences present strength and weakness that prevent equal outcome and to deny this is anti science

its that simple.

>wikipedia
>science

So is the entry for the history of anthropometry, quote:

>Although craniofacial race categorization based on skull indices is unambiguous,[23] races categorized using alternative methods yield different groups, making them non-concordant.[24] Neither will the method pin-point geographic origins reliably, due to variation in skulls within a geographic region. The United States has group ancestries from geographically distant locations, which have generally remained endogamous. As more migrate and Americans become more racially mixed, such craniofacial identification is of reduced utility. About one-third of "white" Americans have detectable African DNA markers,[25] and about five percent of "black" Americans have no detectable "negroid" traits at all, craniofacial or genetic.[26] Given three Americans who self-identify and are socially accepted as white, black and Hispanic, and given that they have precisely the same Afro-European mix of ancestries (one "mulatto" grandparent), there is no objective test that will identify their US endogamous group membership without an interview.[27] While this method produces useful results for the population of the United States, it is likely that it would not be reliable for populations from other countries[28] or historical periods.[29]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anthropometry

That's why the science and methods are becoming more exact to make up for the larger pool to mixed breeds as Wikipedia told you computer measurements are making the science even more exact

I see your jumping from one extreme to the other to hold onto any point you can but its simple really
the science works and that's why its used.

And I explained to you why "it works". It's almost like false positives in statistics. You get self-fulfilling predictions, because the racial groups in the USA come from very distant regions, so of course if you measure extremes you get differences.

But that doesn't mean you can use this method to predict any possible black on the planet or any possible chink. It just won't work.

>indoctrination into society of every human
This has nothing to do with genetic predisposed strength and weakness prevent equal outcome

>Diseases have nothing to do in a discussion about behavior
I suggested genes and alleles that are linked with temperament and things such as natural test levels do in fact effect behavior

Sorry m8 again like the other poster you keep going from one extreme to the other to try and make a point but the fact is

racial difference are real despite any environmental factors and they prevent equal outcome.


>nigga

we see the problem now
your a shit skin and upset


Your BTFO M8

You can use it to exclude any chink is black and vice versa any where in the world sorry m8

>US endogamous group membership
Annnnddd this is where none of this makes a deference to identifying objective racial catagories

There are differences, but acknowledging them has consequences. Would you like to be judged based on your race? To be told that you are not qualified, because on average your race has proven to be unqualified? That your gender is unqualified?

Such a system leaves no room for statistical outliers, for the geniuses. It is a dangerous game.

No m8 i would like the fact that when a large swath of my race does not make the cut it is not considerd racism but a result of racial strength and weakness and where they lie

Like the example of college earlier in tbe thread

No one suggested barreing anyone from competition but instesd to not expect equal outcome

with that said, I believe the only system that is fair is a system that judges the individual. Equality of opportunity is a system allowing anyone to prove themselves worthy, based on their individual talent.

"racial strength" only applies to the average. Once again, you don't make room for the outliers to prove themselves if you've already judged them based on the average of their race.

So actual quantifiable ways in how human are affected by environment to change their complete MO is not relevant to a discussion in which we discuss Human Pattern.

And this can be dismissive by environmental diet reaction shenanigans. Because even though one is of a much greater magnitude, and it's in the heart of this discussion.... That's it.. no reason. It's cuter that way. Nice.

I went to extremes? I question your evidence and use other examples that just happen to disagree with your premise. So it's extreme, "holy fuck ACTUAL REAL LIFE SHIT THAT'S OPPOSITE TO MY IDEA, TAKE DAT SHIT OFF THIS BITCH"
>Being fucking 12, the argument.

learn ENGLISH FAGGOT, IT'S YOU'RE.


(But on a serious note, you see how racialism is simply false when you try to look at it objectively? I'm only having this discussion because it pieces me off when people say that it's scientific when it clearly isn't. I also like to intellectually annihilate people, so you know. Next time you play the racialism game, just be a little bit more self aware that you're shit posting. I fear too many white being are being indoctrinated into unrionically believing this )

>inb4 another shitpost, im out faggot. LOL

Who said they are already judged the point is identifying differences and how they will effect said race on the average

We already provided a example with affirmative action and college

We work on a quota system currently instead of looking for individuals and cases of real racism preventing acceptance so when we see not enough blacks accepted despite not having enough qualified applicants we dole out free pointd and enforce quotas becuse the perception is equal outcome is possible and natural when in reality there would certainly be a distinct distribution of racial acceptance if the the college is looking for the most qualified at all times and that porbbaly would not even benifit whites as much as asians and jews.

We can all apply but if shit skins dont get in much its not racism as equal outcome is false

too bad he died, he's pretty based

he went to africa and learned some of the obscure bush languages

Never saw it before; looks interesting. thx

You mesn your btfo

Lol
You have said nothing that disputed racial differences and strength and weaknesses prevent equal outcomes on a level playing field

Its that simple cuck

Please show me some websites showing race exist. I am in college and could just be being brain washed by the liberals.

Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.
httppritchardlab.stanford.edupublicationspdfsRosenbergEtAl02.pdf
Common-sense racial categories have biological meaning.
httpwww.ln.edu.hkphilosostaffsesardicRace2.pdf
Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
httpwww.telegraph.co.uknewssciencescience-news12061787Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html
Human intelligence is highly heritable.
httpwww.nature.commpjournalv16n10absmp201185a.html
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
httpwww.sciencedirect.comsciencearticlepiiS0160289608000305
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
httpwww.jbhe.comfeatures49_college_admissions-test.html
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
httpwww.udel.edueducgottfredsonreprints1994egalitarianfiction.pdf
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
httppsycnet.apa.orgpsycinfo1977-07996-001
The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
httpwww.sciencedirect.comsciencearticlepiiS0191886912003741
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
httpwww.udel.edueducgottfredsonreprints1997mainstream.pdf
The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
httpwww.jbhe.comfeatures49_college_admissions-test.html
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
httpwww.wsj.comarticlesSB115040765329081636
IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
httppsychology.uwo.cafacultyrushtonpdfsPPPL1.pdf
IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
httppsychology.uwo.cafacultyrushtonpdfsPPPL1.pdf

nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982205002095

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369848613000460

science.sciencemag.org/content/298/5602/2381.full

nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1455.html

pnas.org/content/94/9/4516.full

genome.cshlp.org/content/14/9/1679.full

nature.com/nature/journal/v526/n7571/full/nature15393.html

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/tan.12165/abstract

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2271140/

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707610015

It does, it points to the fact that morphological measures of phenotypical traits are not an error-proof method of identifying/predicting race. You're better off using genetic data, which is more complex and holds a lot more information than bone shapes.

a lot of those links are fucked

No m8 you simply repeated your point after i highlighted wer your own post is making the distinction to us endogamous groups and has no real bearing on objective racial categorization across the globe it even is hanging hat on acception that make the sciecne at best 98% accurate instead of 100%
Just like your source that tried to suggest was not even real you are posting anything you can to try and make a point when the science is being used across the globe as we speak effectivly and of course genetics is better but you wouldent be using cranium morphology is you had tissue you cuck lol

Your done

This is all you need little one
humanbiologicaldiversity.com

Race was not real*

see the egalitarians are ALL frauds. And I will tell you how you can call them out. Just ask them why they don't live with black people and ask why they don't want to. point out how they live in a white neighborhood and avoid the black neighborhood.

Why would theY? Well you and they both know why. Because black people do not live in the same level of civilization. in fact they do not live in civilization at all and are incapable. and the facts always speak for themselves.

white liberal egalitarians are simply liars. they lie to themselves and risk the safety and happiness of future generations so they can socially appear "good". they are really cowards incapable of accepting the inner truth they live, and the outer truth they have created.

they cannot accept blacks are inferior, but also cannot live amongst them. what does this make them? unhealthy, mentally ill people.

so any "liberal" or even average person is just a coward. do they want to live in the black neighborhood, with the black people? do they want to patrol the streets of the black neighborhood, or be the "good cops" they cry for?

no. because they are liars. they don't want to live with black people, and don't want to admit this obvious fact.

in order to hide from this fact they will even go so far as to import a few black kids into the neighborhood, or be so vile as to combine their DNA with a black person to create some subhuman chimera freak.

but in the end what does it amount to? nothing. its just a pack of lies. and in the end either they will remove the black people and retake the land or they will be absorbed by the black people(which ultimately will mean certain mass rape and murder).

and that is just the truth. and only cowards argue with it.

Orly?

>A 2009 study found that FORDISC 3.0 "is only likely to be useful when an unidentified specimen is more or less complete and belongs to one of the populations represented in its reference samples", and even in such "favorable circumstances it can be expected to classify no more than 1 per cent of specimens with confidence."[10]

>In 2012 research was presented at the 81st Annual Meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, which concluded ForDisc ancestry determination was not always consistent, and the programs' recommended acceptance criteria did not separate correct and incorrect determinations. The authors concluded that the program does not perform to expectations and should be used with caution.

i don't understand why people argue about things like this.

i mean, do you want to live in the brown neighborhood or the white neighborhood?

enough said.

is race real? well, do you want to live in detroit, with the black people, or guatemala city with the brown people, or do you want to live in the civilized white city with law and order and clear streets, public sanitation and prosperity? where you are safe or unsafe?

who makes a neighborhood unsafe? the police? really? do you really intelligently, sanely believe the police make the neighborhood unsafe?

if you believe police make neighborhood unsafe, well answer this: if you are in a black city, where would you feel safest? By the police station, or by the black people?

if there were white cops and black cops, in general, who would you trust?

well then, there is your answer. did you need a bunch of stale numbers and printed ink and bloops and blips to tell you that?

or is the intuition better suited to answer such questions?

oh you want to rely on studies to tell you which neighborhood is safe to walk at night? or where you should or shouldn't park your car, or take your date?

Egalitarianism isn't the same as Equalism.

Egalitarianism says we're different but should be treated with a similar level of general equalness in the eyes of the law, but exploit our respectful strengths for societies game as a whole.

Equalism says we are all the same and should be treated the same.

Why is it that there are more blacks in the ghettos?
I was a huge Ben Carson fan and thought his views on race would solve lots of problems America is facing.