Americans have to pay $39.35 to hold their babies after they are born

>it's another "insecure, inferior, and irrelevant countries hate on America because she's literally the greatest country in the world" thread
Don't you guys get bored of making these?

I guess there's always the mid-wife option but still. This is really sad. Imagine some vet who just got off early from his dead end koodo mobile salesperson job to go see his pregnant wife give birth, than finds out that he can't touch his first newborn son until he agrees to pay out 40 bucks.

I'm surprised you even know your own flag, Sweden

no basically everywhere for everyone

and hospitals have to treat you. you will just get a massive bill in the mail. the myth that hospitals are throwing people into the street because they are poor is laughable.

+tip

How are you going to get painkillers for your wife?
Do you know how to cut the umbilical cord?
What if the baby come out upside-down and choking?
How are you going to sterilize everything?
What if a complication arises?
How will you know the baby's healthy?

HEY THIS FAGGOT JUST TOOK THIS POST FROM READIT WHAT A FUCKING GOOF

Jesus christ. My gf had a c-section and it cost us exactly 0 dollars. It must suck to live in the US.

>not squatting a baby out at home

get out fucking newfags

Don't worry Obamacare has a 5000$ deductable.

>"skin to skin"
Something about that just sounds sickeningly bureaucratic

>yeah it's horrible here besides having the best doctors in the world
??? But Michael Moore told me that Cuba has better doctors

I'd try to dispute it. Hospitals get away with this shit all the time because people think they have to pay it. It's just the jew trying to nickle and dime you under your nose. They think with a $3k bill, who will notice an extra $40?

Is that why our life expectancies are developing world tier?

>c-section in straya

>he doesn't tip his doctor to get unlimited prescriptions and doctor's notes for time off from school and work

wow who would've thought delivering a baby required so much care? It's not like humans have been having kids without doctors for hundreds of thousands of years.

Maybe the dingo ate your baby.

skin to skin refers to wound closure, dumbass.

Shut up. Our health system is fucked up. The (((insurance companies))) and the (((big pharma companies))) complete rip America off. The German system for example is far superior. There are private doctors, no waiting lists and you can get private insurance, yet everybody that can't afford it gets government insurance.

no that's because of our opulent lifestyles

we are eating ourselves to death and it's because of our successes that we are dying in this way, has nothing to do with the quality of our doctors

I don't think I'm being thrown in the street by any means but I definitely find the system is very clogged with the elderly and illegals so if you have something chronic you'll find yourself waiting a lot. Also while the doctors are good staff can suck which causes more waiting issues like having to go to a lab for bloodwork since they are too dumb to take your blood there.

Kek this

that has nothing to do with the doctors and their education and quality. the system they are forced to be under is horrible i agree. they are still the best in the world.

>having kids
LITERALLY KEKING YOURSELF

You might want to look up mortality rates for both mothers and newborns pre 20th century famalam.

Jesus Christ

puhlease, that's not how our system works

you would get this bill 6 months later with all of the surprise fees tacked on and any $20 aspirins you took. That's the BEST part of the Merican way, you have no fucking clue what it will cost when you're getting procedures done until well after the fact, with random bills coming from different billing departments within a hospital

such a magical system, thank Christ almighty I live in a country where we'd rather give at least 10% of our income to a profit-driven corporation who gives no shits about a healthy consumer instead of 10% of our income to our government to ensure our well-being because only healthy humans get decent enough jobs to pay taxes

No it doesnt retard. Skin to skin contact is really important for the baby and mother and they try to do it the second the baby is born.

kek i'm sure a peasant like you would get to use them

c-sections aren't natural. we allow even the weakest to breed, where nature would kill the mother or child

In some special clinics we might have the best doctors in the world. But the average hospital doctor in America is no better than in Western Europe.

damage control

Fucking retard. There's a reason infant mortality rates have gone down in the last few centuries: modern medicine and hospital births. Try having a baby without any of that shit, you hippie fuck. See how many hours it lives.

that sucks, your baby will lack the natural defensive flora(s) and bacterium's the skin uses for life against viruses and foreign proteins.

nice job abo

Plus tip.

>13000 to pop a baby out of a vagina.

Someone has to pay Mr.Goldstein.

>/r/eddit

>costs about $1k to have a baby if you have insurance

Sounds totally reasonable. You know spics and niggers get to have babies for free, with better amenities than whites, right? Life is really easy when you either give a fake name to the hospital, or just don't pay your bill.

Nope. He's 5 and healthy as fuck.

>literally just a problem with the baby not fitting through pelvis
>ONLY THE STRONG SHOULD SURVIVE

please just fuck off you stormfaggot

Divide the "delivery c section" by its quantity of 79 (minutes of procedure) and you get the same price of skin to skin. It's not actually paying to hold your child, it's just itimized that way on the bill.

In Coatia, your main concern is that the nurse doesn't drop her cigar ashes on the newborn as it is being delivered.

And somehow our birthrate remains higher than yours.

Maybe the father secretly covered the bill.

>japanese have to pay a 2800 yen to have sex

top kek, just kill yourselves my men

>C-section
You're having 79 of them

>$40
To lift the child up and place it near you

>$60
For "2" consults on how to attach the child to your nipple. Presumably one consultation for each tit you possess

>$1600
Still owed after paying out the cunt for insurance to start with

At least it only cost you $200 to rank up to Level 3. The full Battlefield One experience is nearly as expensive.

>everyones face when

Actually it's a retarded neoparenting thing that won't really do anything, like eating your placenta.
evidencebasedbirth.com/the-evidence-for-skin-to-skin-care-after-a-cesarean/
(Summary: you put a backed baby on your chest)
And to OP this is not holding your baby.

fuck i'm going to ask my mom how much it was in the 80s for them to get c sections on my sis and I.

3 fucking k.

dkasjfaskasdfkl

>tfw you might get a corporate job with benefits day 1

anons. plz. I need this job so bad.

>paying $1.6k for doctors to help your wife shit out a kid

$1.6k for a hospital birth is nothing

Dude, when they put a catheter in my cat it was 1500, grow the fuck up.

>not fixing the healthcare system by having high deductable and an HSA.

Hey at least he can get free treatment for that SICK BURN

Infant mortality (deaths/1,000 live births) - 2015 estimates (CIA):

United States: 5.87
Croatia: 5.77

Pic related should deal with the mess you just made

Wait, I don't get it.

How can they charge for you to touch your baby?
That's not a service they are providing. Can't you just sue?

its free for me m8

$0 for one, like most other developed countries charge, is quite literally nothing though.

>greatest country in the world"
>greatest cancer in the world"
ftfy

>inb4 irrelevant turkland etc
yeah you're still a cancer to the world

>Get to use mummy's military officer healthcare (Thanks O'Bama)
>Get appendicitis one time on Thanksgiving day
>Go to nearby military base
>Get seen by a doctor immediatly
>Get surgery set up as soon as it's apparent what my condition is
>Appendix taken out in a short operation
>$0 charge after paperwork
The healthcare system works pretty well for me senpais. Make sure you peasants keep paying for my livelihood :^)

This would be a great place without shitskins.
the whole world would be i suppose.

A couple years back I went in for an appointment when I broke my little toe. Doctor who looked at the x-rays said there wasn't anything they could do - it wasn't broken enough for splinting or resetting, told me to try and keep off it for a couple weeks and left.

Whole appointment from the time the secretary called me back to the point he left the room was about fifteen minutes.

A YEAR later I get a bill from the clinic for $200 full of random 'surprise' fees that my insurance didn't cover.

Socialist islands.

>not understanding how insurance works
An hero when?

Fact: Australians are 3x times more educated, 8x times more intelligent than swedes, on ALL subjects. And i didn't know what country that fag represented.

What is niggers?

Too bad you'll never see them. Hell, you'll have to pay through the nose to see a mediocre doctor with only a few letters after his name.

I was going to say it's as bad as the NHS, but we get a pittance taxed from us, and that pays for it.

it fucking says it cost $61 to teach mothers how to breastfeed the baby.

C section. Quantity 79. Wtf?

>be american
>have to pay in order to have the privilege of kissing my wife's son
>"okay I guess.."

>2016
>Not getting a lactation consultant so you know the proper way to let a baby do what men do already

>don't count these people

Dismal performance regardless.

kek

$13k Plus to have a baby in the USA. What a fucking Joke!

Probably by the minute.

All 40 bucks of it per minute.

...and then it's time to pay for college so they can get the part time job in starbucks

It's total time the procedure took.

>How are you going to get painkillers for your wife?
weed is legal in my state
>Do you know how to cut the umbilical cord?
yes
>What if the baby come out upside-down and choking?
throw it away and try again, it only takes 9 months
>How are you going to sterilize everything?
soap
>What if a complication arises?
improvise
>How will you know the baby's healthy?
if it survives then it's healthy. if it's a runt then natural selection will take care of the problem.

if natural selection was allowed to work properly then modern society wouldn't be such a legendary shit.

Fuck that, do you know how much suicide costs here?!

having children should be free, but so should abortions

Why are americlaps always under the impression that every single person has gone to an ivy league school? The majority of doctors are your run of the mill doctors just like in Europe.

Fucking burgers, I swear. Just ask your doctor where they studied. I guarantee that there is a huge chance they came from a shitty for-profit university you haven't even heard of

Because the majority of Americans like the faggot you replied to () don't know how to take constructive criticism.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I WANT MY STUFF PAID FOR, WHY DO I HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR MY OWN CHILDREN AND CHILD BIRTH, THIS IS UNFAIR, OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR MY MEDICAL NEEDS

This.

The kid is owned by the united burgers. The parent should be renting the good little goy

for the prices you are paying they better fucking be

Im mostly surprised at how cheap the c-section is, their average cost is 20k i thought. That makes it seem like this bill is either

1) not from the US
2) this lady spittin out babies at the public hospital

my wife had her kid at a hospital. cost me 150$ after everything was taken care of by the insurance company.

>Probably typing this with one hand as his wife is getting raped by a pack of mudslimes

It's actually why most people didn't bother getting insurance before Obamacare made them.

In the US you're paying money even if shit does or does not happen. Why pay insurance if you have to pay anyway.

Must be why everyone goes to Norway to get experimental medicine.

>C-Section
>Qty: 79
I'm genuinely curious.

Thanks to shitskins your healthcare system is about to collapse. Why do you think our system fucking sucks? Different economic policies/modes of distribution, different problems rooted in the same source.

Probably by the minute.

Noice.

Though too much wit for an American. Are you visiting from mexico?

I remember this exact documentary in HS gov class. Absolute propaganda.

ha

Shit like this just makes me cry at this point.

So you have the best med schools in each state, you fucking moron?

Clearly not. Same in Europe. There are places with better med schools. It's almost like for every exceptional medschool there are a bunch of mediocre ones,and that is the reality everywhere.

Also, what difference do experimental treatments have to you? Not like you could ever afford it without selling your kidney

Yeah enjoy your checkups from Fahrook while they last, before he goes back to his dirt country to get rich off the locals

All the doctors in the US bitch about their pay and work hours, and multitudes of them are just waiting to go back home overseas

t. hospital worker

jew

there's worse parts to this, buddy

thanks kikes

>those last few hours when you pop out of a vagina are what give you the immune system

Did you know the jews make wallets out of foreskins?

It's so when they rub it, it turns into a briefcase

>Did you know the jews make wallets out of foreskins?
No, they make Apligraf (diabetic skin patches for fat fuck baby boomers) out of neonatal foreskins.

Don't they suck their dicks to stop the bleeding? Wasn't there a article a while back that a ton of kids got stds or some shit because of this.

What kind of backwards ass dumb fuck would let someone literally suck their new borns dick let alone cut them.

Yeah and it's also used in Oprah's facial cream
youtube.com/watch?v=b7JzdcZPvzg

It was a joke fuckface

...

-Checked- XYZ4 -Thailand-

>M-MUH FORESKIN

>best doctors in the world
But you're not Germany.

Look at this retarded amerilard trying to justify being jewed out.

>doctors that are good
>doctors that charge anything
Pick one cuck

bloody cocksuckers

The problems are laid out before your eyes dumbass.

It's really not that complicated, we're talking about a fucking delivery not an open heart surgery.

Unfortunately this is incorrect. We no longer have the best doctors in the world as immigrants being shuttled in by the thousands and are replacing doctors. The foreigners who are being inserted from arab countries and India are able to do so with 2 yr medical degrees from their respective countries. Arabs actually infiltrate caribbean medical schools as an easy means to enter the US. Hospitals are now fined if they do not take more minority residents that US born citizens due to Obama's bullshit. These foreign docs also take less pay than their citizen counterparts which makes more moneyh for the hospital. They also do not complain as their country is a 3rd world shithole and USA will very quickly become the same. Medicine is absolutely being infiltrated as a means to diversify and is bullshit.

>79 different cuts
It was a very special doctor

pic related

From laughter, I hope.

Human babies absolutely hate their mothers. They rearrange female organs lay down parasitic lines and in natural childbirth cause complications which result in the mortality of the birth giver. All other animals can control their pregnancy and can abort at will and pregnancy doesn't strain their host causing anemia, diabetes, and a host of other health risks. Human pregnancy are one of the most inefficient and horrific struggle of two entities trying to survive each other.

Way more babies were being shat I
Out in the early 1900s and not to mention everyone was too poor for them so they just left them in the streets

Huh, could it be because you have 324 million fucking people?

nope, that would be because of the googles, i think their life expectancy is less than 50, and that's 16% of our population...

not to mention we're an unloading ground for many other poor countries for their sick and elderly.

Cuck detected.

they include beaners and googles in those numbers too.

we're a dying people.
they're going to miss us alot more than they think they are.

unless you go out and vote for Donald J Trump, then we'll be just fine.

them loopholes baby
thats how you play the beauracracy game.

>rate
>canadian retards do it again
good job you numale faggot I hate you

Never let anyone tell you the NHS is the ideal healthcare system - it doesn't even come close. You have to pay in America, but at least you get treated. If you're genuinely ill here and you go to the doctor they will 100% tell you go go away and come back in a few weeks if you're still ill.
This means you never get any tests, x-rays, MRI's. I know this because it took them 2 FUCKING YEARS to decide to x-ray and MRI my knee when I was a kid, then decided to do NOTHING about it.
My legs are still fucked up and that was a decade ago because the NHS sucks dick.

hehe

>have to wait 1 month to fix broken leg
>get checked by nurse to assess urgency
>get wait listed 5 more months

>everyones face when socialized medicine

I'll just call information

Wtf ... you americans charge even for the air or what

actually yeah they charge you almost $5000 for a bottle of oxygen and if you need fluids its nearly $500 a IV bag

all this stuff mind you costs less than $30 to purchase

>thank the JEWS

Everybody here have tax paid health insurance? We also have the choice yo go private doctors, for the money that americans pay for basic health is completely insane

Cucks

partner had my son in april, cost 0$, biggest cost was getting myself something to eat at their canteen

Shut the fuck up aquafresh

Leave him in his illusions, just nod and say "yes every doc comes from an Ivy League school" even though that means shit all anymore considering they lowered the standards to the point your average Tyrone, LaSheequa and Jamal can enter just by being niggers.

Is this a joke? Did they really charge for that shit

No, broken bones are prioritized because it costs the state more if it heals badly.

I moved here from a country with socialised medicine.

It's fucking hilarious. I have pretty good insurance here but all of the doctors still tell me to go home if I need any serious treatment.

This entire country is one giant tax-farming scheme to obliterate the poor. It's so hilariously bad. The rich don't pay any taxes because they can tidily evade all of them just by getting a smart accountant, they completely monopolise upper education and all privileged postings.

I come from a country with a literal aristocracy that controlled all government offices and professions until a generation ago, and it's MORE free and meritocratic than the United States. The burdens are a dozen times less on the rich and a dozen times harsher on the poor.

I feel bad for America. Somewhere in its comatose and dying "middle class" are some very beautiful values and an incredibly strong commitment to them. And standing on the slowly expiring body of the middle class are thousand rich assholes and their poor lumpenproletariat janitor slaves.

Skin to skin after c section requires a nirse to sit in, in the event of hypothermia which is common in c section babies.
That is most likely just the nurses hourly wage plus payroll tax.

Thats exactly what happens to mexican system but the problems is that there are many fat related diseases so if you are not dying the doctos sometimes tell you get the fuck out, but if you are really ill receives every studies needed but still need to wait

Pretty much this.

The tree of liberty is rotten to the core.

Obamacare fucked us royally, it didn't use to be this bad.
I don't have insurance at all, and I've found when i go to a doctor or clinic and let them know in advance i have to pay for it myself, they cut through all the crap and just give me what i need.
Obamacare made a lot of people profit by kicking problems down the road and milking the most number of visits, since more people covered by insurance means bigger paychecks.

Jews this, jews that, but anytime someone points that pharma and insurance jews abuse americans murifats defend them with zeal of olgino bot.

>charging a mother $39.99 to hold her newborn baby ever
>not even having the decency to make it an even $40 with that 9.99 mind trick bullshit

TFW American
>No insurance before obama care
>Pay out of pocket for doctor visits
>65 bucks
>Obama care starts
>Cheapest is 400/month
>Only covers 30% of doctor visits
>Doesn't cover prescriptions
>Have 65 dollar copay
>Don't sign up
>Fined 1500 dollars
>Doctor visits still 65 dollars without insurance
Top kek fuck the government

>$1,600 for a baby delivery
>a lot

If you can't afford $1,600 you shouldn't be having kids you worthless parasite.

Careful Sven, that could be misconstrued as you sticking up for your country.

Forgetting about the generation that crashed our country into the dirt? Wasn't just in the US.

That's nice until you need a life saving surgery and have to wait several months, risking death.

>talk to libfuck parents
>obamacare fucked up the country hard, no more full time low paying jobs, higher taxes, mandatory insurance and it all goes to private companies
>durr but 15 million welfare recipients don't have to enroll in medicare now
>talk to Cred Forums
>fuck obamacare!
>yeah, goddamn pharma jews are killing us and profiting off it, we need to do something about it! the government needs to negotiate the best possible deal it can with our money so we can have the best healthcare
>HURR SHILL THOSE PARTICULAR JEWS EARNED THEIR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES AND MANDATORY PREMIUMS

Don't ever start a sentence with hell ever fucking again you piece of shit

>How are you going to get painkillers for your wife?
I'm over 21. MGD was good enough for mom it'll work for what's-her-face.
>Do you know how to cut the umbilical cord?
What, with like a knife?
>What if the baby come out upside-down and choking?
A two parter: 1. Make wife stand on head - nany now right-side up. 2. No one worth a damn ever died from choking.
>How are you going to sterilize everything?
Fire, brother. With fire.
>What if a complication arises?
Deal with it.
>How will you know the baby's healthy?
When it starts telling gay jokes.
Checked.

You came to this conclusion based on your one experience over a decade ago ?
You sound like my mate who doesn't like a certain food because the one time he had it, his mother burnt it.
Daft cunts

You seriously think it should take over 2 years to get a fucking scan done and then choose not to do the necessary surgery just because I was young and leave me with lifelong pain and damage? That was the best course of action for me? There is surely no other reason they took that long to do essentially nothing, right? We're just being too hard on them by expecting them to treat us, fuck us right

it doesn't matter how good he is if he costs one billion gazilion credits

I think he's saying it might have improved you daft cunt

Nah that's just fucked up desu. Some responsibility is with your parent/guardian on some of that though.

I had a bad experience at the dentist as a kid and sort of resent my mother for not speaking up. Most of it is down to ignorance thinking the doctors always know best, never question.

Yeah cuts and massive amounts of immigration typically make things better don't they?

>besides having the most well-paid doctors in the world

Fix'd that for you. Just in case you wondered why is American healthcare twice(now, after obamacare probably more than that) as expensive as Canadian or British while still being worse at basically everything, including cancer survival rates(which are highly dependant on having access to high-tech medicine and so on) - it's just Doctor Schlomo Shekelburger being pricey.

the actual cost of the c-section is c-section + skin to skin contact.

they just put skin to skin contact on there for record keeping purposes

I was delivered by the same Doctor as the British Royal baby.

It did not cost this much.

expensive =/= good

My original point was that you can't really have an opinion on the NHS as a whole based on your one shitty experience with them

Only a tiny part of them are actually great. Most of the doctors in America got there just for the money, and don't know shit.

My point was more than in America you're essentially paying them, so if you want an x-ray or MRI and it makes sense to have one, you can get one.
Here, if you want one, even if it makes sense to have one, they WILL just tell you no because it costs them. I was seeing doctors really frequently because of that problem for a few years, so unless you count that as 1 really long drawn out shitty experience, I think my argument has some merit.

Isn't that child prostitution?

i guess it all went downhill from there

Went into a doctors office for bronchitis today.
Walked out with a prescription for 2 different asthma inhalers, antibiotics, and fucking Xanax.
They tried to jew me out of $500 fucking dollars for the prescription, WITH INSURANCE. ONE INHALER WAS 250 BUCKS. WHO NEEDS XANAX FOR BRONCHITIS?!?
Mexican doctors man.

>$1600
>to have your child delivered by doctors and nurses in one of the best medical facilities on earth

If you can't afford $1600 to ensure your child is delivered in the best environment possible then you shouldn't have kids.

I wasn't born in a hospital, lived long enough to shitpost on here.

I can't wait for you to turn 4.

Also, so many people rely too much on doctors for absolutely everything, from a cold to cancer. I see hospitals full of working class scum with simple problems that could probably be sorted out with some digging around the net.

I haven't been the doctors or hospital in over 10 years because I have learnt how to cure myself

>kid is so huge and has such massive, natty gains he can't get out of his mums vagoo naturally
>hurr hurr only the strong can survive
Fucking babylets when will they learn?

I just, I can't even

New American Dad here. When the girl turned preggers, we got Medicaid for her and the baby.

This is the only way to have babies in the modern economy. Out of pocket expenses for a normal birth will range to 10,000 dollars. Complicated births requiring surgery can hit the 50,000 dollars mark easily.

And if the baby is born with a problem requiring surgery and the neo-natal intensive care unit + follow up care, well, hope you got 1 million dollars handy in your bank account.

Only way for White People to have babies in America now is to swallow their pride and ask for Gibs from the dole. But we are taught to never do this. Minorities on the other hand, par for the course.

the nhs is shit but it's better than nothing. it pisses me off how deferential people are in the uk to the nhs. it's an abstract that's worthshipped like a god. being have illusions of how good it is untill you need it and go through the system. it's shit and the doctors are unless pricks. nothing is availble and worse they deliberately do everything they can to avoid treating people to reduce costs they would rather give a few pills... and doctors are the fucking worse. old doctors 65+ are actually decent but they are rare. most are lazy arrogant greedy self absorbed asshole. as for the new junior doctor contract... fuck em they are already overpaid. the goverment should just fire them and hire cheaper more skilled and greatful doctors from abroad.

I remember a master sergeant in my Army unit. He had a premature birth for his soldier wife in an Army Hospital. They had to helicopter evacuate the baby to a NICU in Nashville, followed by 2 months of omg why.

2 million dollars out of pocket. But paid for by TRICARE.

kek, why don't they just include it in the price? Billing it like that looks really fucking bad.
>having the best doctors in the world

>How are you going to get painkillers for your wife?
Don't marry a weak as wife and then prepare her mentally.
>Do you know how to cut the umbilical cord?
You wait until its not red and then you cut it. In the hospital they cut if before it drains (bad for the baby) because its actually worth a lot of dough.
>What if the baby come out upside-down and choking?
Deus Vult, baby was probably a sinner in an earlier life.
>How are you going to sterilize everything?
Same way they do at the hospital dipshit. That is the easiest part.
>What if a complication arises?
Natural selection
>How will you know the baby's healthy?
By looking at it.
Does it breathe?
Does it make sounds?
Then its probably ok.

SHOULD HAVE JUST LET THEM DIE AT BIRTH LIKE THEY WHERE SUPPOSED TO.

FUCKING MODERN MEDICINE REEEEEEEEE

>Natural selection if a complication arises
>is willing to have his wife die so she can have Tyrones child the natural way
That's some admirable dedication Sven

>posting something from reddit
please, please kill yourself

S-sweden... no. Please.

>le old epic tyrone maymay
Kill yourself you inbred paki cum guzzling knifeless anglo faggot serf.

Jokes on you. It came from the interweb.

>Free

Socialism is not free; merely distributed.

Also, how many weeks would your wife have to wait in labor before the doctors get around to her?

I'm not even here to defend American healthcare, just to point out your delusion.

>Being able to kill the offspring of a 'Tyrone' in the hospital
Sometimes it's easier to get away with murder without a bunch of witnesses with medical gear on standby

I beg to differ.

I've heard that you can pre-pay for a delivery and pay way less than normal. Not sure though.

Also story from my dad:
>older brother is born
>the mother is getting ready to leave
>she's in wheelchair, baby in arms
>dad is talking to the administrators
>is young, doesn't have money on hand
>administrator says that if he doesn't pay, then "we'll just have to keep the baby"
>dad says "oh good" and starts walking away
>turns around once and says "keep the wife too"
>in a few seconds they come running after him saying "mr. xxxx, you know we can't do that"
>they set up a payment plan obviously...
This was decades ago, IDK how it works today.

>This was decades ago, IDK how it works today.
They do a late time abortion and sell the parts to George Soros so he can do his daily stem cell injection.

Pro choice, its her right

Is that before or after the Jews steal the foreskin, and do they have to pay for that too?

You have to pay for it of course.