Who are you going to vote for in the Bulgarian Presidential Elections, lads?

Who are you going to vote for in the Bulgarian Presidential Elections, lads?

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Why is this even a question? There is no debate. You should never (ever) vote for a woman. They will only fuck things up.

What is she is a puppet for this guy?

comi general is better than the rotten hag.

Who's the tranny on the left?

Guy on the right has a cool nazi-esque uniform. He's got my vote.

Lady on the left is a lawyer from a right wing party, man on the right is an air force general from a left wing party. Both of them ex Communist Party members, but then again pretty much all older people of means were.

meant for

Not sure, as I'm not a Bulgarian citizen

My condolences.

It's not a good feel

Is the guy on the right going to finally invest in the army properly ?

I mean , our army has sunk in the past years but ...you guys have outright fallen into a pit :[

Money "invested" in the army is money thrown down the toilet.
We will never have an army to rival NATO or Russia, so why bother? You have to be in one of the two camps, and you might as well let them guard your ass while you spend the money on infrastructure instead.

But yeah, he wants to chase out foreign planes, and buy our own planes.

im gonna sell my vote in some ghetto

This will be my president

pros:
>homosexual
>pedophile
>into little gypsy boys

cons:
>literally NONE!

>We will never have an army to rival NATO or Russia, so why bother?

Because these might not last forever ? Because if a 3rd world war were to start u'd still have to rely on your own equipment to do your part? Because the EU is slowly drifting away from the US and might make its own alliance to be able to exit nato? Because with no proper military (or air force for that matter) , in case of a world war you'd be 2 much of a liability to defend . Because if you don't meet nato requirements...u might get kicked out of nato.

Your mig29's are basically on life support , they're at their air worthiness limit.

>But yeah, he wants to chase out foreign planes, and buy our own planes.
Yeah , you guys keep saying that since be4 we did ...and we've received our first batch of truly not the best fighters ...but you guys plan to buy the same type of not best fighters...and you still haven't even made proper plans yet.
And to be honest,looking at bulgaria's airforce history...it's kindof sad to see it a "Throwing stick" away of being dependent of a foreign country for something as small as air policing.

>Your mig29's are basically on life support , they're at their air worthiness limit.
i want this meme to end, desu

>Mig-29 Introduction July 1982
>F-16 Introduction 17 August 1978

both planes are basically equal and what we need is more of any of these.

Its not the design he is talking about, its our polish serviced individual planes, and he isn't wrong.
However, he is wrong about everything else.

>new war
Our allies will keep us safe better than our army ever could, due to sheer size.
>join US despite EU
Same thing, with US army.
>join EU despite US
Same thing, with EU army, which is coming.

Little states have zero reason to keep an army, its an economic burden.
Bulgaria simply can not fight Turkey, or USA, or Russia, or EU, or any other regional power, so why spend money on a fight that possibly won't occur, and if it did we'd lose for sure?

So we've got two communists, one of them who is now staying in the strongest right wing party for the shekels and power, and another one who is a complete retard, got elevated to his position by pure connections and is unable to even read properly.

There is no good choice here, lads.

2 puppets and a lot of shit to come our way.

If anyone can say anything positive about these two, I would love to hear it.

>EU army, which is coming.

The guy on the right can fly a plane.
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I don't want it either, rather be a US slave in NATO, but Germany wants some independence and so the EU will have its own army soon.
Wouldn't be laughing if I were you, we are paying for it.

but the guy on the left can legally enter in women's change room.

It's a hard choice, user

It's not a question of wanting or not wanting it. The EU is in an accelerated state of decomposition. If anything it's going to be unwinding in the coming years, not integrating further. The EU army is an unrealistic pipedream.

I think you are confusing the first bump in the road with a cliff. Time will show.

they both look like fat gypsies, lmao when a bulgarian insists he is """"European""""

article 50 when?

His ideas for the military are literally every jew's dream. He's so out of touch with economics and anything remotely resembling modern politics and bureaucracy, that it's making me feel.

If only. The EU is exhausted and has run its course. If historical constants are anything to go by, it should have a life expectancy roughly equal to the USSR, after which it will dismantle more or less uneventfully. When I was a kid in the eighties everyone believed the USSR would be around forever, and a few years later it was all over.

>article 50 when?
yes, when? weren't you backpaddling cuckolds leaving?

Which one is going to steal less?

Who's the Russian cuck?

>If historical constants are anything to go

The USA is nearing 250 years of continued existence as a federation of more or less independent states. It is comparable to USSR and EU, or was until Obama forced a government law on all states despite their own independent law (the homosexuality thing).

this As I said , you have requirements to be in nato. Without requirements you can just get kicked out. On top of that countries rarely fight big wars alone.(nowadays at least) . In a fight with turkey for example most likely greece if not even us(depending the context) would be involved. Not to mention that countries that don't do anything but "Get invaded" don't really get anything post-war.
You were a little state when you took part in taking down the ottoman empire.

Can you please tell me his ideas for the military? I'm genuinely interested

>rather be a US slave in NATO,
I disagree. The EU at least has some incentive of keeping the population satisfied . NATO will continue to seek war . Which you are also paying for , since nato has military requirements for nato , not for your military needs.

Left is NATO and EU leaning, right is independence and Russia leaning (yes, I know).

Neither of those two fuckers.. Traikov is the only decent candidate... Is there a voting station in Dresden btw

Why is Boiko actually based?

Then Left.

Nothing, nothing, is more cancerous then Russia.

Is that Rado Shisharkata. (Rado the pine cone)

>as a federation of more or less independent states

You don't actually believe that, do you? The US states were largely created ex-novo from the same people gradually expanding into untamed lands. The only federal states that actually survives are those that de facto behave like nation-states (Germany, the US, Australia). Multi-ethnic and multi-national federations pieced together from pre-existing states actually have a very short life expectancy.

As soon as we make it clear to the rEU that Romanians and Bulgarian gyppos are to blame for Brexit.

We don't have problems with qt Swedish and French girls, we object being swamped by pic related.

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>Multi-ethnic and multi-national federations
Switzerland?

Radev is the lesser evil but why are all the candidates ugly

Fuck this shit

A president should have charisma

Now that I think about it, we haven't had a leader with charisma since Tsar Boris III

There was a section in Dresden last year. Traykov is the most inadequate person imaginable though. I wouldn't let this cuck take care of a goldfish, let alone a country.

The USA was formed by british, french, spanish, dutch and german people. A hundred years ago it still had german language national newspapers.
And it was "invaded" by irish and chinese, and now mexicans. Its the most multi-ethnic and multi-national state on the planet.

>any non UK thread
>mandatory BREXIT poster invades

Every time. We don't care, lad. Go be british in another thread, where its relevant.

>socialism would work, look at Denmark

Irrelevant sample size.

>implying accepting and assimilating immigrants is the same thing as merging pre-extant states

I constantly hear Europhiles cling to the US as if they were in any way comparable to the EU, be my guest. But don't be surprised if you get the USSR or Yugoslavia instead.

>Now that I think about it, we haven't had a leader with charisma since Tsar Boris III

Is this you

no

no that's Vlado "if i give you 10 leva, what are you going to do?" Kuzov

You mother fucker stop propagating this shit that they're only two candidates in the style of the retarded US elections.
You are a worthless piece of shit if you vote for either of those two pieces of shit.
At least we now know it's over with GERB. If that is the only candidate they could come up with , lets bury them already and stop prolonging their misery.
GERB=BB , and that idiot has had enough at trying to pretend to be a politician. It's time for him to fuck off too, soon.
If you don't want the power to go back to the fucking nomenclature commies or the Turks, the only right wing alternative is Radan Kunev and Traikov.
Let's at least once habe someone in power who isn't a total shame

>Can you please tell me his ideas for the military? I'm genuinely interested

Take loans, buy hardware, build bases, forbid NATO to place troops and shields in the country.

>he hates on someone wearing that shirt
reported to the Queen

Enjoy your SHARIA LAW and Aghani mayor, European

>the only right wing alternative is Radan Kunev and Traikov.

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Kanev is right-wing like the pre-Trump GOP were "conservative"

Kanev literally said that it doesn't matter if we are ethnically replaced

Fuck you, stay in your German cuck shed and never come back you fucking faggot

>mad Radan Kunev spotted

>Ramadan Kanev, the gay muslim terrorist
>((((right-wing))))

You need the communists back.

Seriously, except from the city center the country looks exactly like it did in 1988. I visited again this year and i was shocked, the response from most people as to why there had been little development was 'beaurocracy'.

It will be an american election, with the older lawyer lady and the popular everyman macho grandpa. Other candidates won't gain traction. They just aren't interesting. We just got done having an intelligent new-man younger guy as president, people didn't like it.

>Seriously, except from the city center the country looks exactly like it did in 1988.
Objectively false.

getting skype vibes from the woman on the left

What's his foreign policy plan then ? Has he mentioned us at any point?

>You need the communists back.
So they get embargos from countries arround them ? How do you imagine a single communist country would last in europe?

People didn't like Plevneliev because he is a fucking faggot and his constant anti-Russian frothing gets really old. Not because he's relatively young or "intelligent"

He was one of the better presidents Bulgaria has ever had

Bulgaria has only had one good president, agent Gotse.

>What's his foreign policy plan then ? Has he mentioned us at any point?

Independence. Meaning distance from EU, no migrants, closer to Russia.
He wants to do something we economically can't afford. Bulgaria exists on EU handouts.

Huge loans, which will supposedly help the military modernize and be a more helpful force in the EU.

Forcing everyone aged 18-33 to have 6 months of army training. Now that being said, the so called army training, will be 90% free work, you'll be forced to build/repair roads, spend shifts guarding useless hangars of old equipment, base and military building maintenance or so on. You will basically become a free worker for the army and in exchange you will recieve the many benefits such as:
Outdated weapons training
Physical training - limited and with close to 0 medical expertise in case of injuries
No payment for any time spend or work done.

That being said, I'm sure there are many other schemes, that he'll try to exploit the army with, I'm meeting with and old associate of mine in a few weeks and he can give me details about it.

>tl;dr He will exploit the army and leave it even more pathetic, than now.

commies should be expelled from this country.

Nah.

I mean, in terms of development, nothing has really happened of note. I'd be interested to see why you think otherwise.

To be fair though, its not only a Bulgarian thing, lots of the eastern block has the exact same problem. But compare to Eastern Germany, Baltic's, parts of Yugoslavia, Czech ect... Bulgaria is a long, long way behind.

Fucking lovely country though, great people and cool things too see.

Also your tolumbutchki things are 10/10.

>How do you imagine a single communist country would last in europe?

That was just a cold war thing, in reality nowadays so long as you dont ally with Russia you would be fine.
The one thing that they wouldn't really like is single party governance, but it happens around the world frequently and so long as your interests still lie with the big players you will have no problems. I mean it is possible to have a western communist nation.

>Bulgaria exists on EU handouts.

Bullshit. The net EU "handouts" are irrelevant.

Leaving the EU will bring lots of new opportunities.

What opportunities? We have to consider ourselves lucky that the elite of Europe are even planning on including Bulgaria in their state.
What other opportunities do we have in this globalized world?

"After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists."

Sergei Dovlatov, Soviet dissident

I would say that the supposed anti-communists turned out to be an even bigger cancer

Yes goym, we are totally lucky that we will be a minority in 20 years and in the same superstate as Turkey and half of Africa and Arabia (hello new Ottoman empire)

>muh minority white masterrace
i forgot where i am posting, i guess

yes, now go back to plebbit you fucking cuck

did i hurt your wittle safespace ;(

I don't know. Maybe you could figure that out for yourselves

Never vote for a woman, senpai

are you kidding? even terrible poverty would be better then that (and that wont happen barring some disaster)

You are hurting my country by existing.

All faggots should go to the ovens along with the gypsies they defend

>Communism an absolute scorge on every nation it is manifest
>Those anti-commies tho, they are even worse!

Yeah. USA should have never been involved in WW2. Cold war just brought a new dark age

you clearly haven't lived in a shithole that is still recovering from the russian occupation. siding with the developed world is fully in our interest.

town square in my town now looks amazing to both natives and tourists. EU funding helped a lot to our country and I don't see any reason for it to stop.

Yes, they are.

The Western bootlicks have ruined us in a way only comparable to the Ottoman invasion.

During communism we had borders, military, science and education, working institutions, low crime high trust society, cultural spending, national identity was not being erased from the history books.

It had serious flaws but basically we had a country.

Now we don't.

Plevneliev could've gotten a second term if he wanted one. The fact that he didn't should wory you more than who the next puppet will be.

just kill yourself, ok? thanks.

Conscription, especially in countries like ours is absolutely fucking retarded.

It costs money that produces a "force" which in today's wars is literally useless. We've seen it in ukraine very clearly...you can't send people with little to no war experience and expect them to perform , there were "conscripts" in ukraine which at the sound of bullets would literally get out of their vehicles (if they had any) and run. All of this at the expense of providing proper training to soldiers that want and are ready to be there.

We don't live in the age of "everyone can fight" anymore . Even "rebel" forces in the middle east are composed of former soldiers...those that aren't usually get trimmed out quite quickly or are trained by real soldiers. We also saw the same shit in iraq where they just left fucking Abrams tanks and ran away

>That was just a cold war thing
It wasn't though. I highly doubt there would be no sanctions on bulgaria if this were to happen

>Leaving the EU will bring lots of new opportunities.

Like what,bankruptcy? Unless you enter a new union based in the balkans , I highly doubt bulgaria's going to have any pros of leaving the EU
You don't have the friends or economic resources to pull off a norway or a switzerland here in the /balk/ , and look at the great performance of the other non-eu countries in europe .

I disagree that eu handouts are mandatory , but leaving would fuck your economy beyond belief .

It did though . US's involvement in ww2 was the biggest genocide in European history.

Vote for Dinko

>town square in my town now looks amazing

"Boko put some new asphalt in my town, the EU is so based"

During communism a border fence would have been built in 2 weeks, not two years.

Of course, during that time we had a border in the first place.

>Plevneliev could've gotten a second term if he wanted one

lol no

>During communism a border fence would have been built in 2 weeks, not two years.

Yeah, with conscripted labor by people who don't want to be there, and by slave labor by prisoners.

yesterday you got BTFO'd and become a laughing stock at Cred Forumsbalk/, now you are trying to get same result at Cred Forums ?
Absolute madman is what you are.

Plevenliev didn't want a second term because during this one his party abandoned him, his wife got in a fight with him, and his son died.
His personal life is in shambles. Being president is fucking terrible.

just ignore the commie faggot
literally tumblr

And you believe that leaving the EU will help us against Turkey? How exactly? US and Russia don't give a single fuck about us and are much closer to Turkey. And we have the largest muslim population (percentage-wise) in the EU.

Xpozed, you are the laughing stock of /balk/ with those srs bzns propaganda posters for every time someone tells you that you are wrong. People type in a short message and hit submit, you take it as a declaration of war and go full autismo.

>slave labor by prisoners

yes it's so much better for the prisoners to be parasites on society, just like gypsies. So enlightened, muh gayropean values

Yesterday you were being a retard by trying to connect completely unrelated posters with obviously drastic different opinions.

I see today you are being a retard as well.

My prediction is that tomorrow you will still be a retard.

It's incurable, this is why we need eugenics

The burkas should be banned because they are a direct provocation...

(Mfw .. Don't you hate it how so many sand nigger words are now into daily vocabulary. Burka, sharia, islam,... Etc

During the communists everyone with a different opinion than the government was jailed, prisoners weren't just murderers and rapists you know?

Russia has good relations with Azerbaidjan but it's still the main protector of the security and continued existence of Armenia.

If we move to Russia's orbit (for example in their equivalent of NATO) Turkey will never attack us, and there is nothing wrong for the Russians to otherwise seek good business relationship with the turks, just like we can.

>If we move to Russia's orbit
If you do that , you'll be the next ukraine

>It wasn't though. I highly doubt there would be no sanctions on bulgaria if this were to happen

You only get sanctions if you do something that is very bad.

Look at countries like Ukraine and Belarus, different ends of the spectrum, both getting away with a fuckload of things. Even places like turkey, clear institutionalized human rights abuses and political oppression and still nothing.

Its who you know not what you do.

Also i'd like to point out Romania isn't much better than Bulgaria.

then, people should learn that if they are starting a srs bzns argument, they should have enough balls to finish it.

But that is my point. The only relatively competent president we had for the last 25 years is gone and the possible successors look terrible.

Yes, and now it's the same in much of the West, and it will be the same here soon.

Even in America anyone with the wrong opinion gets fired. Trump supporters are beaten up on the streets while the police does nothing.

In any case nobody wants to bring communism back, I am only saying that in many important aspects now it's even worse.

LOL

But I don't think he is competent. He didn't do anything. He isn't recognizable abroad. Borisov met with foreign presidents more than he did.
He just didn't do anything terrible, that doesn't make him good. It makes him inactive. He didn't do much at all.

>Yesterday you were being a retard by trying to connect completely unrelated posters with obviously drastic different opinions.
i want to believe there is only one retard posting under my flag. It just makes my life easier.

>If we move to Russia's orbit

>It just makes my life easier

OK, I guess you need this.

Yes dear, everyone who disagrees with you is the same guy, probably a Putin shill, working non-stop.

>everyone i dont like is a fascist

>probably a Putin shill
why use "probably", when it's pretty obvious you are a Putin shill.

HINT:i'm not the OP

Looking how many Bulgarians there are on Cred Forums, one can almost believe that we don't have a demographic crisis

He used his veto power all the time and for all the right things. He defended Bulgarians abroad after the prime minister of the country BB has publicly offended and let them down

Oh, Bulgaria, I forgot you were there. You may go now.

So who are you going to vote for again?

>LOL
Why are you lol-ing ? How hard do you think it would be for the us to take down the bulgarian government? Or do you think russia will risk a war with nato for bulgaria?

It didn't happen in serbia and it sure isn't going to happen in this case. Nato isn't going to risk losing complete control over the western black sea .

During work hours too.

any website where i can see their political beliefs and plans in the presidency?

Wow, so many. Like 6, or even 7.

15-20 posters
100+ lurkers.

i just love when a solid tfwnogf virgin start bragging about muh demographic crisis. qt af!

...

Is there an alt-right party in Bulgaria?

The president of Bulgaria has little power to initiate anything, so they won't have detailed policies.
In general, GERB want to continue whats done now, the general wants to spend more on military and not allow foreign military influence and bring back mandatory service, and the reformer candidates want social policies and government control, such as minimum bulgarian goods in supermarkets or food in schools and so on.

Old lady - status quo with less insulting Russia than Plevenliev.
Old guy - status quo + spend more on army and move closer to Russia.
Young guy - government intervention in economy and distance from Russia.

> Russia has good relations with Azerbaidjan
You are a fucking moron. They are direct competitors in the oil and nat gas markets. Remember "South Stream"? It was the competitor of Nabucoo and Souther Gas Corridor that were the EU's plan to diversify away from Russian imports. Guess where most of the nat gas for the EU/US was goint to come from? Guess who owns fossil fuel extraction in Azerbaijan.

Russia and US don't care about small regional players. They play the long game. In the case of Armenia, Russians have direct interest in an ally lodged in the mountains between Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey.

no, this is something I've been thinking about and it's seriously depressing

Based solely on that picture, I'd go with the guy. How could you not.

which guy

But that guy had a wife and child, if memory serves.

Isn't Azerbaijan with the USA on the Armenia dispute? And Russia with Armenia?

This is like saying that Iran and Russia are not close because Iran can be competition in the oil sphere

You clearly have no clue about the relationships between Russia, Armenia and Azerbaidjan

Yes, Armenia is an important ally for more than one reason, but they have good relations with the Azeris too and are actively trying to improve them further

>underage pro-commie Cred Forums poster
>wife and a kid
pls

eh, just steal the normal right party and make Bulgaria Great Again

What about Kalfin?

Let's be through with this GERB shit. This party only bases itself on the charisma of a dumb as fuck former nomenclature bodyguard, who has more than close ties with the mafia and who proved himself to be nothing than a messenger boy between the big powers...
This is what your "man of the people" has brought you. Only shame and poverty
GERB is dead and good riddance

dude on the right has that secret commie police vibe

Well, you really think they don't know that? It's not just our countries.
They will exploit you especially if you are young and willing to do anything for money. They just exploit nationalism to further their own war machine in the strong armies and to get cheap labor and steal money in the weak ones.
If you want good soldiers, not even elite ones, you better fucking train them for years and offer great compensations to them and their families (only if they have children, who are theirs)

Alright, thanks for this post.

That was my point.

> This is like saying that Iran and Russia are not close because Iran can be competition in the oil

No. This is to say that in geopolitics there are no "close relationships" and only aligned interests. Russia is not "close" with Armenia and Iran out of friendly feelings but because they are an important allay in the current configuration of powers in the relevenat regions. And yes if that was not the case, Russia and Iran would be competitors in the Oil and Gas markets because currently this is the strongest Russian weapon against the EU.

I can't vote for BSP-lite. m8.
I'll also wont vote for Cacheva, i really can't believe they elected her.
I would vote for the general, even if he go for the president elections out of butthurt if he wasn't used by BSP and stayed as a non-party elected (for real) candidate.

It will be a hard choice for me, and for now i think i'll be voting with the last option - "None of them".

Kalfin is a jew

Don't do it faggit!
Dont you realize what ur doing? voting for BSP? Are you that retarded
Choose someone else bit not there two.

>they believe their votes matter

do you even get my post?

I said, i would vote for the general IF he wasn't elected by BSP and stayed as a non-party candidate. Since he is de-facto elected by BSP, i'll probably vote with the last option they added - "None of these candidates".

You can extend an airframe's service life IF you are upgrading it with the latest and greatest.

Are you?

prepare for the first woman president

Clinton?

>mfw another country falls for the female president meme

is hillary slavic?

>he didn't start his own квapтaлнa gang of pepe acolytes

Step up your game famalampai

>blond
>blue eyed
>rich
>in a position of power
>gets cucked
>makes deals with muslims

Apparently not.

There is a limited amount you can extend , and the bulgarian air force already extended their life once. Eventually you can't upgrade them anymore and the bulgarian army announced 3 times (Since be4 we did) they'll buy sh 4th gen aircraft (last time i checked 8 till 2018-2020 and 8 more after 2022)

Regarding the existing aircraft They've recently opened a contract requesting new parts for mig-29...which is weird cause a Ukrainian company one it.

Now ukraine sure has the means to somewhat upgrade mig-29's ...but to provide brand new parts ?(the bulgarian government requested documents to prove that they are new parts) With the sanctions between them and the russians? There's something really fishy about that contract.

ironic question

i implied that we will have our first woman in the presidency

>limited amount

Technically. Our recent upgrades to our B-52Hs (from 1961) will extend their service like to the 2040s.

dsds

They were upgraded overtime of course, no one uses the base models.
Things are that there's too much of a lobbying in here - one pulling for the Russian side, others pushing for the NATO side.
That's what stops the progress from "let's buy/modernize our planes" to "job done". It works the same for big projects like Belene NPP or South Stream pipe.
Worst of it is none of the politicians care about the country as long as their lobby side wins.

The general. Slavic brotherhood!

oh another slav/Balkan/turk thread that turned into stupid chest thumping. what a shocker!