How can Cred Forums improve National Socialism for the modern era?

Last weeks ideas:
>Compulsory military service at age 18 for 3 years
>Can not begin college until after military service at age 21
>Only people who completed military service and have an IQ over 130 are allowed to vote

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Those ideas are excellent. I would expand on the third with the introduction (to the discussion, it's not my original idea) of not only earned, but graduated franchisement.

Completing basic military service (and meeting other requirements) gives one vote. Becoming an NCO or and being the head of a productive household earns two votes. Being an officer, party official of ten years standing, having five healthy children with grandchildren, etc., earns three votes.

These are not hard requirements, just an example to illustrate the concept. Those with the most investment in and the most demonstrated loyalty to the folk should have more say than those who merely complete the minimum amount.

Thoughts on the concept?

Don't let women vote.
Don't let non-whites vote, unless they accept they live in a white country.
Don't let non-party members own any media outlets.

Wasn't Bernie pretty much a national socialist? I mean, he ran on a nationalist (relative to the status quo) and socialist platform

Why would we even have non-whites? Apart from the odd consulate/embassy staff or government-approved journalist, all of whom are closely monitored?

The "nation" referred to in National Socialism is not one of borders, but of blood.

1 year of service is enough to discipline someone. Don't take away the time men should be using to have children.
Also add completing a year long philosophy course to the voting requirements.

We need a racial spearhead

National Socialism is a concept specifically for Germany.

make europe germany again

Nazi Germany? Yeah. But we can have National Socialism for all whites.

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Then it's not National Socialism. That's White Nationalism or the Alt-Right, and looking at it, the Alt-Right is our best bet for returning racial politics.

Are you not a proud Frenchman?

Organised by German Americans. Yes.

>>Compulsory military service at age 18 for 3 years

Lower it to one year. Or even six months. Military training is useful, but the marginal benefit to society decreases the longer it goes on. It's good to teach men to fight and to have discipline. But it doesn't take 3 years to do that.

>>Can not begin college until after military service at age 21

Just limit college to "has completed military service". No reason to stick an age on it.

>>Only people who completed military service and have an IQ over 130 are allowed to vote

Dumb idea m8. If voting is dependent on military service, and every man has to do military service, that's a stupid distinction.

As for intelligence, NO. Cuckoldry increases with intelligence because the higher your IQ, the more likely you are to have evolutionarily novel ideas (like no in-group preference). You need the working class rabble to have a vote, because they tend to be more socially conservative than the "intelligent", and would provide a good bastion against a cuckold revolution in higher education.

>nationalism
>iq above 100

Pick 1

>year long philosophy course
I am guessing you mean for the purpose of educating about the Frankfurt school and their ilk so as not to go down that path. However we need to expand on what this is.

I don't know if you have these courses in Europe but we need a class about how taxes work, being a good citizen (ie. voting and stuff), and general money management.

The lightning and the sun should be required reading material.

I honestly don't understand your objection.

>military training is useful, but the marginal benefit to society decreases the longer it goes on

I think a rather obvious point that you might be missing is that any newly-formed National Socialist state may very well face survival challenges for quite some time as the liberal democracies of the world array against it. A robust military could be entirely essential beyond any values instilled in trainees.

I'm unsure about the IQ 130, I agree that morons should not be allowed to vote, but people with 120 IQ and up are relatively smart as well. Why not make 120 IQ the minimum requirement?

Unfortunetely, one problem with lowering it is that if we lower it once we give people the idea that it's ok to lower it again.

Thoughts?

>have an IQ over 130 are allowed to vote

Autismocracy?

The IQ part is completely unnecessary. But I do agree with everything else.

You have no idea how IQ works. None of you have 130, no matter what your online tests say

Minimum 105-110 is better

>modernity

Modernity is what killed the Third Way, Fascism would have been fine on its own but Hitler had to ruin it with his modern ideas on race. We need to go back to traditionalism.

My objection is that no one on this board knows wtf they're talking about and thinks that National Socialism is about "protecting muh heritage, muh race, muh culture from da j00z" and I'm not knocking that, but stop calling it National Socialism because it's not. The moment Mein Kampf was condensed down to the 14 words, it stopped being National Socialism. National Socialism was a doctrine of the NSDAP and no one else. Hitler found it odd when people tried to apply the same ideology elsewhere... because it was for Germany. It was about the Volksgemeinschaft, the Blutgemeinschaft, Generalplan Ost and Lebensraum. Do you think they cared about the preservation of Polish culture when they set up the General Government and tried breeding them out of existence? Do you think they cared about Russian culture when they carved up their land into Reichcommissariats? No. They were trying to Germanise it - make it German territory.

Enough with this meme already.

>Dumb idea m8. If voting is dependent on military service, and every man has to do military service, that's a stupid distinction

6 months is enough to learn the skills yes, but it should be more than just practical skills. But once it's over people would just forget the deeper nationalism elements they were taught. National service of 3 years will change people's personalities, it would change who they are entirely.

>As for intelligence, NO. Cuckoldry increases with intelligence because the higher your IQ, the more likely you are to have evolutionarily novel ideas (like no in-group preference). You need the working class rabble to have a vote, because they tend to be more socially conservative than the "intelligent", and would provide a good bastion against a cuckold revolution in higher education.

I think you have a good point here.

How about removing the "socialist" part

Of course those need to be taught, but those can be taken care of in highschool.

I think the IQ thing is quite dumb. IQ doesn't measure intelligence in my opinion. As I know an aircraft technician that struggled with this test....: test-my-iq.co.uk/en-us/iqtest/1

Unless someone shows me an IQ test that tests knowledge rather than your brain.

*Ethno-Neo-NationalSocialism.

Stop calling it national socialism

>national socialism
>voting

Except Hitler didn't ruin anything.

Yeah but like in the USSR. Where the people vote for the strongest leader.

So in your opinion, there's nothing of value to other people in National Socialism, even as a base template to adapt to other climes/situations/nations?

If not, it seems like you're being overly pedantic, honestly. I do understand your point, but of course they were trying to Germanize...they were German.

I think your objection that no one but you "knows what they're talking about" is a bit silly. Even the people who can't speak German can read the party's translation of Mein Kampf and make up their own minds.

1. Strip all ideology from national socialism.
2. Replace with Freedom and capitalism.

Proud of what. France has not been relevant for a couple of centuries. It's not ever going to be relevant again. It's over. I'm a frenchman form after France. This country is a weird product of history, not even an ethnic nation.
Had it not been for the Revolutionnary republic, a Breton and a Nissart, a Basque and an Alsatian, a Picard and a Provençau, a Francilien and a Lyonnais, wouldnt even share a common language.

And from an european perspective, France has constantly been, from the times after the death of Emperor Charlemagne, to the times of Francis I and Charles V, the main obstacle preventing the unification of the continent.

When Germany conquered France in 1940, they kicked the masons, the jews, and the republicans out. Even if they did not want a powerful France, their puppet government was more French than any regime since the Revolution!

I feel no shame to say that France doesnt deserve greatness. To me it's really close to a mistake of history.

France is over, only the EU is more destructive for the land and the inhabitants. This regime is constantly brainwashing, punishing, bashing its citizen and subsidizes their ethnic replacement, and it's been 60 years.

Time to change

Are you pretending to be retarded? It would be a knowledge test and not an IQ test

Your freedom and capitalism are literally anti-American. Our founders made a white nation for white citizens, not the "anyone's welcome, just eat McDonald's" failure we have now.