Why aren't Europeans allowed to shoot home invaders?

"Because were are above violence and there is absolutely not a single scenario where we should lose our civility and attack anyone. Tolerance to evil is what makes us superior, this is a good thing, anyone who thinks that this mindset makes us weaker has an outdated definition of strength"

>t. Sven alSweed

we don't have guns so it would be pretty hard to shoot people without guns in any case

If you shoot your home invaders, they win

Get ready to thank America again!!!!

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Trips of truth

Just throw them from your balcony and tell the police they fell of while escaping.

that's what the do with kurds and gypsies

What are you supposed to do? Have a parlay where you declare your intentions and weapons that will be used?

No fucking idea. Probably run away and call the cops according to the judges.

If its just some kid trying to steal your silverware and you shoot them in the back while they're trying to escape, then it is unreasonable to shoot them.

If said kid turns around and tries to attack you or runs towards your child's room, then it is reasonable to shoot them.

If the person is incapacitated on the ground and unable of harming you, and you put another bullet between their eyes, that is unreasonable.

The law hinges on the reasonable apprehension of death or serious injury.

You can. As long as you can show that shooting the intruder was reasonable and proportionate.
You can't use self defence as a reason to apply for a fire arms certificate, but once you have it, you can sort of get away with murder.

Yeah it's like that here too, if you have reasons to believe the guy wants to harm you you can shoot to kill, if he's running away and you shoot him in the back you'll go to jail

Sounds like fucking shit.

If a stranger broke into my house uninvited, he has relinquished all rights to live.

Because we have no freedom.
Best thing is to buy a friendly doggo like this one.

how barbaric

In the UK the government would rather you, the homeowner, have your skull battered-in than any harm come to the gang breaking into your house.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30213462

We are truly under the boot here.

Thanks politicians.

Yeah, breaking into someone else's house uninvited for any reason whatsoever is pretty barbaric, I agree. Retarded as well because you could get shot.

I agree. If the fucker doesn't want to get shot, he should just not break into my house

We had a petition about improving our self defense laws, more than one million people signed it.

repubblica.it/politica/2016/06/01/news/piu_facile_sparare_per_difesa_un_milione_di_firme_per_il_si_alla_nuova_legge-141046867/

It's even worse over here. If someone breaks into your house and accidentally gets himself killed while trying to rob you, it's YOU who will go to prison!

thedrinksbusiness.com/2013/11/winemaker-kills-thief-with-poisoned-wine/

>we don't have guns
Absolutely false, stop being a cuck.

Not really. If they can prove he was in the act of retreating, or he was on the ground, you murdered someone.

But as we all know, it's your word verses a dead guys.

This

because you should be able to take pleasure in destroying your foe with your bare hands and claimining to act out in such away due to shock and terror that you were incapable of dealing with.

And if you fail and become a victim then your not worthy of being a european.

That really depends on where you are. In some states, you can shoot people stealing from your neighbor (no threat to life involved) or kill a hooker for "stealing" from you by refusing to give your money back if the sex act is performed (the idea is that you're "retrieving stolen property" by force, which is legal).

*not performed, rather.

You're not allowed to leave spring guns / booby-traps in the U.S.

Hi Cody!

>(the idea is that you're "retrieving stolen property" by force, which is legal).

In no U.S. jurisdiction can you use deadly force while trying to retrieve stolen property.

the dutch are. if your in my home and a threat or have taken something i can fuck you up. only law rutte ever made right.

Says the Australian who's ancestors were deemed unworthy of being a European and shipped to a penal colony.

>live in texas
>learned today I can shoot someone in the back while they're running for taking my neighbors property

Fuck yeah

Can't speak for Western Europe, but in Poland a home invader is generally expected to be a drunk hobo who mixed up doors. I mean, a serious robber would wait until you're not home. Drug-crazed maniacs with automatic guns, like the kind we hear about in American stories are unheard of.

I've personally been pickpocketed a few times but never robbed.

This would be a good choice in theory, but in action...
>Cutie gaurd dog pup rips home invader's throat out
>"Excessive use of force, rabid dog"
>Weep as your pup is euthanized for doing it's job

But you're absolutely wrong, so there's that. :)

>A Texas jury acquitted a man for the murder of a woman he hired as an escort, after his lawyers claimed he was authorized to use deadly force because she refused sex.

>Ezekiel Gilbert shot Lenora Ivie Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve, after she denied his requests for sex and wouldn’t return the $150 he had paid her, according to the San Antonio Express-News. Under Texas law, an individual is authorized to use deadly force to “retrieve stolen property at night,” and Gilbert’s lawyers cited that provision as justification for Gilbert’s action, reasoning that Frago had stolen $150 from him by taking his money without delivering sex.

Again,

>under Texas law, an individual is authorized to use deadly force to “retrieve stolen property"

thinkprogress.org/jury-acquits-texas-man-for-murder-of-escort-who-refused-sex-a4504fe9b053

The world is not what you imagine it to be. You're ignorant.

Pretty good detail on the brass vs bullets for the most part, but the grenade launcher firing the entire shell is too lol.

>>Trips of Truth

Witnessed

Pimpmygun is what possibly singed the decline of /k/.

The important part is to kill the intruder and not to shoot them in the back.

That way there's only one story.

Yours.

T. Police officer

Lol Texas.
People's republic of California here. Bought a gun because I'm not sure how much longer I'll be allowed to. It's getting to the point over here where I might lose it on a fishing trip in international waters.

Because a person's life has more value than a TV or laptop in Europe.

>Europe
>Home invaders
I have bad news, you aren't Europe any longer if you have home invaders, you are nigger-Arab land.

In europe you even get sentenced for sadism if dindu sues you, if you put nails on your car sit and someone while stealing the car sits on it.

I meant, the point of no return. Its humor went to somewhat bearable old Cred Forums shit to facebook cancer and new Cred Forums overnight in 2009.

It's not so bad because Finnish prisons are basically terraced houses where you get to play Playstation and study. You even get to take trips to the town during the day if you're good.

WE ARE! BUT if you kill the invader, you are send to court. And when they send you to the court, hundreds of people will protest outside of it so they let you free (not that they would punish you anyway)

>Thanks politicians.

Whom you elected.

You brought this on yourself, Nigel.

That's booby trapping and it's against US law as well. Property rights are important to a free society, but nothing is more important than human life.

Because it's racist goy. These poor men had troubled youth due to the flithy whites.

>Modern Europeans knowing how to properly use weaponry.

No...no...

>property rights are important to a free society, but nothing is more important than human life

You say this, but at the same time, it's entirely legal for many of us to kill people who fuck with our property...

thousands of years of being trodden upon by their kings and lords has made them incredibly passive.

though don't think the elite ruling classes don't have armed guards protecting them

The kind of people in the US who invade homes with people in them are thrill seeking types. These home invasions escalate extremely to violence and the invader is usually not averse to violence.

Exactly, that's my we must not figth, we are better than that

laugh all you want, burger. Your country wouldn't exist if it weren't for the French

Yeah. Like Trumpfags are not servile at all. lool

If someone tries to steal from you on your property or even breaks into your property without your explicit permission it would not be immoral to end their miserable life if you were there.

For the 100th time, booby trapping is not illegal if:

the trap is unattended it must
>not be lethal, maiming, or cause permanent damage
>not be in a place where someone obeying the law could trigger it by accident

the trap is attended
>it cannot maim (either have to go non lethal or full lethal, no in between), BUT it has to be proportional in response
>it cannot be in a place where someone could lawfully be and accidentally trigger it

Examples
>razor blades on a trump sign
Illegal, could maim.
>mace filled orange explosive dye packet under a Trump car sticker
Legal
>mace filled orange explosive dye packet in your mailbox
Illegal, mailman could trigger it.
>shotgun rigged to fire at door while you are on vacation
Illegal, there is no threat to you so lethal response is not needed
>shotgun rigged to fire at door while you are reading in study, but you are renting a room to someone
Illegal.
>shotgun rigged to fire at door while you are reading in study and you live alone
Legal.

Banks rig bags of money with dye all the time. And there is no difference in killing someone with a shotgun if they invade your home whether you do it or a switch does it as long as you are nearby

>le trumpe xD
amazing talking point. as a canadian I truly and really care about an american presidential candidate

bacause of socialism :DDDDD

Many leafs here are supportive of him as well (guess the fever went over the border). I would be surprised if you are not one of them.

because they are already trained in letting other men come into their home and fuck their wives

You are just salty because you support china ripping off the west in trade you scum

IT'S COMING STRAIGHT FOR US

"nodverge" so in cases you can get away with it yes, if convicted the sentence will be reduced very much.

keep strawmanning. its really impressive

I'm positive I could, and nothing too serious would happen to me.

That is American barbarism

right to self defense*

Ahhh, this is why can't sympathise with leafs. in any given abhorrent situation. You don't seem to care about your own life, which is really disconcerting.

Luckily I've played SH3, so I'm not falling for this

No person is worth more than my meme collection.

you're supposed to take your meds and get out of your schizoid fantasy world where everyone is out to get you

why are mentally ill people allowed to kill innocents in america?

Hillary will take your guns away.
You are 60%.

>Hillary will take your guns away

She'll rethink once she understands the logistics involved. There literally aren't enough boots to kick in doors, user.

>europoors dont have a shower gun
enjoy getting enriched by achmed, faggots.

No we can't kill home invaders legally. Neiter can Eastern Euros. Communist legacy.

Still you are more likely to get killed trying to rob someone here than say the UK where they will offer the burgler a cup of tea and their teenage daughters virginity.

Socialism - abolition of private ownership. this is the heart of not being able to defend your home and property.

I'll just leave this here.

You should hang yourself.

...

What's the matter EU shill? Can't handle the truth?

You are clinically retarded it seems. I'm shilling for 2nd amendment all across the Europe.

>b-but america is LE DIFFERENT
>you cant compare a country to other countries
>muh apples and strawberries

plz overlay with black population stats

You are a complete retard. We have less crime than 1st world country USA, even when we have 3 times more crime than in Yugoslavia. We aren't even on that graph. Gun faggots need to be all castrated. We don't need guns, we need extra high punishment for owning a gun, extra high punishment for drug addicts, then everything will be fine. If guns are illegally on streets government just needs to increase punishment for having a gun by 10 times and if it doesn't works, punishment by 30 times. Faggots like you make me sad of your existence.

america isn't the only country with niggers

You guzzle jizz in your free time don't you?

It seems you're a massive faggot!

>firing the entire shell is too lol.
You see, Ivan, when firing grenade you fire shell too, so grenade is more effective because of shrapnel.

I do care about my life

Some kid trying to escape out my window is not a threat to my life. I don't feel the need to take out my insecurities and bloodlust on unarmed children.

They dont have a 2nd.

USA is also the only country on that list which has a significant google population.

But Denmark takes the most meds per capita

>If you shoot Tyrequeise, he wins

Do you know how to transform a gypsy or nigger into a friendly guy? Dedicate a town for them, give them normal living standard. But when they sell drugs, guns and get into fights, simply give them less food, lower standard and if they go out of their own town, simply beat them up until they get it.

also we really don't have a problem with home invasion like the burgerland

>God tier
Deer-posters
>Shit tier
Everyone else

5/10 b8
>consider pic related

this

Fucking this. It's not my fucking responsibility to care more about the value of the intruder's life than he does himself.

>DEY WERE GUD CHILLEN DEY JUST TRYING TO GET DEYS LIFE ON TRACK.

No its not.I live in a castle doctrine stand your ground state.

If you walk into my home uninvited I could put a bullet through their head and wouldnt even go to court.

>HES WAZ SPREADIN THUH WORDS OF JEZUZ WIT HIZ BOOK
>DA POLIC IS RAYCISS MAIN
>OOGA BOOGA KILL WHITEY WHERE DA WHYTE WIMMIN AT

You know gypsy crime on white guy wasn't a thing during Socialism, there wasn't a chance for illegal gun or drug trade, but then some international faggots thought it was a good idea to throw gypsies together with white people in schools and homes and they also through it was a good idea to give them warnings when they are loud on streets and annoy people, instead of giving them sleep time in jail. Now theft committed by gypsies on white folk has increased, even when EU gave gypsies so much money that they could build big houses. Gypsies get more welfare than any other nationality or race, but they steal the most, just that you won't know it was a gypsy, since they will be gone by time you come home, but i know it's gypsies, since i know them personally. I know who runs prostitution, it's a gypsy.

Not my job to care about their life more than they do. It's a good thing to do but I might just not be in the mood.

Burglary does not justify a sidewalk execution

What next, are you going to start cutting off the hands of thieves? Beheading those who insult Islam? Sounds pretty barbaric to me.

>implying im going to read all that

Nice imaginary scenario retard. What happens when the invader is a man with a weapon who would rather just kill you than try to escape and risk being caught by police, now that you are a witness? In reality you're fucking dead if you aren't ready to defend yourself when you need to.

Leftists always present imaginary best case scenarios when it comes to this stuff, of course in those cases no one needs to get shot. But unfortunately for you, fucktard, reality is real.

>Why aren't Europeans allowed to shoot home invaders?

But Germans and Dutch people are.. It's just not encouraged.

>You're only allowed to defend yourself with equivalent force.

That's retarded though.. Don't most continental systems just have the thing where once it's deemed you reasonably fear for your safety, you can do whatever it takes? That's what we have, more or less.

If someone comes into your home to fuck with your life, fuck them. If I wake up and some dude is in my house, guess who isn't going to take the chance that I get murdered. Me. You can get take the chance that you get murdered and your family gets raped if you want, but I'm gonna protect my fucking family and home.

If there is a reasonable apprehension of harm then you defend yourself with reasonable force.
If there is no reasonable apprehension of harm, then shooting the kid is manslaughter at best.

Where are you getting lost here? It's not complicated.

So use a burda club to defend self against a knife. Fuck rather shoot the asshole than cause brutal pain , then again it would be fun going all celt on them.

It's mostly niggers and spics.

Jesus Christ I really hope you are just trolling and you aren't that much of a retard. Give it a rest already...Yugoslavia is dead and it's not coming back thankfully.

we don't have home invsders

>Home invaders
I'm sorry Hans, but first of all the correct term is "pre welcomed guests", "home invaders" implies deep racism and biggotry. Secondly, the notion to own guns is already prehistoric, you're forgetting that we are living in the 21ths century and not the wild West, so please remember that.

longbows? isn't filling invaders with arrows in your blood, bong?

German gubmint doesn't like simple, easy to follow logic.
It must be "reasonable" use of violence against a fucking person who breaks into your house and might just stab you to death to get your money.
Of course, when you are actually in such a situation, you just react and can't think straight like you are John fucking Rambo but the judges don't give a fuck about that, they expect you to be able to concentrate like a shaolin master in a situation of life or death.
Welcome to the modern progressive times where even the most violent, deranged piece of scum "deserves a second (and third, forth, fifth etc.) chance, because we are all humans".

Because human rights are a totalitarian scam, just like Juche.
And unlike 10 commandments "You shall not kill" which is an order from God, you have a claim/demand "I CANNOT BE HURT, MUH HUMIN RIGHTS" made by everyone, enforced by beaurocrats

We drink a lot. At home. With people.
At some alcohol level, guests become invaders, either in your head or irl.

Too much of a mess to sort out later

Before that there's one more question
>Police will blindly open fire on fellow countrymen, whom they've sworn to protect

Because Americans have been dealing with niggers in our country for centuries and have implemented common sense policies to deal with it.

Euros haven't dealt with niggers in their home countries for very long and there are many in Europe that cling to the comforting thought that race is a social construct.

>he thinks criminals care about gun laws

That's no regular retardation we are dealing with here.
Your state of retardation is more advanced than we even thought was possible.
Holy Kek.

Can you be anymore scum and without arguments? Did they release you from zoo or something? There are plants who teach me more than you.

How the fuck do you measure "Equivalent force" should i ask the guy breaking in whether he knows any martial arts so i can duel him, or what kind of weapon he's wielding so i can arm myself accordingly?
>same shit is in Poland as a bonus: a lot of judges are ex soviet
>girl who stabbed a rapist between the ribs got 3 years, because "she went overboard with self-defense"

How the fuck do you come to the subject of Islam?
We are simply talking about home invaders here, fucking pull yourself together, Trudeau.

Of course they won't, but that leads to another conflicting mantra of (((those people))),

>no one should have guns but the government
>the government is racist and evil

>he thinks criminals have less guns if you have more guns
How can you have such low span intelligence? Babies understand more, you need to unblock your brain from this Christianity bullshit Merkel been raping you with. There's no positive statistics of people defending their homes with guns, since those rare % of successful protection are rivaled by much more increased gun carriage by criminals. Most gun nuts can't even shoot correctly and rather injure other people if they play hero. Leave John Wayne to rest, he's a fictional character, while you are a real retard.

>you will never go through your life suffering from extreme cognitive dissonance
Feels good not to be a leftard.

barbarism is barbarism

Killing a person who does not present a reasonable apprehension of threat is barbaric, Mohamed.

>he thinks criminals will just turn in their guns once new laws are passed
>said laws turn good citizens into criminals
>bin that glawk.png
Wew laddy.

In open prisons yes. A actual prison is another matter entirely. Some cells don't still have those EU mandated toiletseats so you have to shit in a bucket and sleep in the smell of your own feces.

Depends on the Nation you talking about. Could shot a child breaking into my house if it is dark an I can prove it made a lot of noise so I couldn't be sure it was just a brät being stupid

Fuck you Israel! It's your relatives who push for this liberal shit all over Europe!

Why can't you just take them. The way they continue they will either be burned alive by muslim invaders or gassed by the rising neo-nazi deathsquads.

I have a 100% working plan how to solve 100% of all illegal guns.
A gun dealer sells weapon for 500$, you give him punishment of 500000$, if he can't pay, send him to worker camp. Very simply. Not only you don't pay for his prison cell, he makes money for you and you also got rid of illegal guns. So very simple, but capitalists simply can't stop selling weapons.

7/10 trolling.

>He doesn't know every self respecting farmer has his grandpa's unregistered Mannlicher stored somewhere in the attic
There's just no reason to use them with crime rates so low (specially in rural areas)

I approve guns for hunters, but under condition hunters don't carry guns on streets and that they sustain animal population. Also a red pill: those that sell you guns to "protect" yourself also sell guns to ZiggyB who runs illegal gun sales.

That's from hundreds of years of living under kings who think of you as nothing but cannon fodder. Your lives aren't worth anything to most 'leaders' even today.

>tfw home robbery occured for the first time in my life last week
>security footage from cameras on the building next to mine captured 3 arabs loading my stuff into their shit turkmobile
I don't even know what I would have done had I been home when this happened. Fairly certain I'd be beaten to death or sitting in a jail cell had I stabbed one of them with a kitchen knife

yeah and we don't fantasize about killing each other all the time
you should try it

Americans don't understand law and justice, they do not even understand their own twisted version of it

Checked and respect

>why are mentally ill people allowed to kill innocents in america?

It's actually against the law, which is why they get arrested.

Good news, we don't either

Because we dont have niggers(for now)

No other white majority country comes close to our google concentration