Why are internet reviewers so bad at making films themselves?

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

Why are internet reviewers so bad at making films themselves?

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Levi Bell
Levi Bell

lumping James Rolfe in with the rest of those faggots

Caleb Green
Caleb Green

Just going to leave it here.
youtube.com/watch?v=lihimTMXT64

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

Those who can't do, user.

Bentley Fisher
Bentley Fisher

Who's the faggy 12 year old in the top left?

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

Well just to focus on one quadrant of your image OP, Let's just say that when future generations sift through the smoldering rubble of postmodern America, they would do well to locate a hard drive with RedLetterMedia content on it. They could study Mike and Jay and, with that thin slice of information, fully understand what it is that killed western civilization.
Those two are bitter, cynical nihilists. They have devoted their lives, the prime years of productivity, to pithily lampooning cultural ephemera and implying "we could do better than these idiot filmmakers, but we're too cool to actually try."
They are every strain of societal AIDS melded together into a super AIDS of cultural death...
Well into middle age, they're still obsessively analyzing adventure stories for children. They're childless, unmarried, stubbornly avoiding an actual profession, opting instead to beg for Patreon donations. They are subsisting on the patronage of even more embittered, more lonely, more cynical losers who need virtual friends to swim in their vast Petri dish of misery with them.
Look in their fucking eyes, man. It's a joyless, pointless existence they're living.
They are so afraid of sincerity or honest artistic effort that they'll leave behind hours of footage of them chuckling about Tommy Wiseau. They are artistic cowards and abject failures in every respect.
Each time you catch a glimpse of them, you're reminded that we peaked as a civilization a long time ago. We're done creating. We're done feeling real emotions. All we can do now is analyze, criticize, and ironically pick through the dessicated corpse of our once great nation.

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

because its easier to understand what makes a film bad rather than what makes a film good

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

only know Mike, avgn and nostalgia critic. who's the other guy?

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

Making a quality film on a low budget requires a lot of talented friends and a great screenplay. Making a decent youtube review series requires 1 talented friend and parroting or signalling against the opinions of online communities.

Tyler Ward
Tyler Ward

ralphthemoviemaker

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

I tried discussing this with my gf.

Personally, I would rather celebrate the worst movie maker ever than the best film reviewer, because putting yourself on the line and actually creating something for other people to engage with is what actually brings humanity forward, as opposed to simply using complicated word salad to overintellectualize childish schlock.

She's a big fan of many of these internet reviewers, so it led to major fight. Should I let it go? Can I learn to love internet movie reviewers? They just seem like such talentless hacks, abusing the modern day financial landscape to make easy money doing very little and contributing even less.

Mason Price
Mason Price

Probably the same reason regular critics are. Despite being Pulitzer-winning writer, Ebert was shit at screenwriting.

Oliver Fisher
Oliver Fisher

Can I learn to love internet movie reviewers?
You dont have to. You have to accept eachother for what you are.
On the other hand- growing up would do wonders for you, so I suggest you do that.

Christopher Martin
Christopher Martin

here I was baiting for a shitposts and you gave me decent, empathic advice, with only a hint of vitriol. Nice, thanks user.

Jack Diaz
Jack Diaz

Why would you expect more? Criticism isn't creation.

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

Redlettermedia are professional hack frauds. I know this is a joke/meme that even they buy into but in reality its the truth. Essentially everything they make is purposefully schlock paying homage to schlock. They’re essentially the gold standard for shit. They’re not “artists” and have never pretended to be anything other than, at best, internet comedians. And all of that is precisely why I love them.

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

Be James Rolfe
crowdfund $3 million to make a movie for your fans
hire competent actors
hire a good composer for the music
have actual production design that doesn't look like cardboard and duct tape
be tongue-in-cheek enough that you can get away with some cheesy monster movie effects
release movie
fans got what they paid for
end up making a profit

On the flip side...

Be RLM
decide to make a movie with no actual budget
don't hire actors, just use your friends
don't hire a composer, use shitty stock music
production design amounts to foamcore and spray paint
Try to be intentionally cheesy, end up being like The Room in how incompetent your filmmaking is
release movie
looks like dogshit, no one buys it
lose thousands of dollars of your own money

Cameron Edwards
Cameron Edwards

JOKAH BAYBEE

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

The best critics ARE artists.

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

The AVGN movie is still garbage, just like Space Cop

Angel Ramirez
Angel Ramirez

Someone post Jay's videos, I'm retarded and can't find the link in my history

Evan Myers
Evan Myers

Best internet reviewer coming through.

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

Ashens movie was alright. Not great, but I do find myself rewatching it now and then.

Camden Ortiz
Camden Ortiz

I enjoy James's documentaries about movie making or whatnot than AVGN.

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

People who are able to do something well can do that thing for a living, while people who are not able to do anything that well make a living by teaching.
-GBS

Noah Harris
Noah Harris

Don't you get me started. No they fucking aren't. Just no. A kid with a box of crayons has as much artistic vision as a film critic, the only difference is the kid works in a more complicated medium.

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

It’s easier to talk shit about a film than to make one.

Daniel Thomas
Daniel Thomas

People who actually make something will be the best critics of that process. He's not wrong.

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

yeah, those persona 5 and resident evil 7 let's plays this year are really raking in the viewers.

Jordan Nelson
Jordan Nelson

That would imply that these online opinion regurgitators were actually good at either of those two things.

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

Critiquing is super easy. It's hard to create.

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

Is English your native language?

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

They aren’t Cahiers du Cinema.

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

We are not all born Jewish and within the invisible walls of Hollywood.

Tyler Rivera
Tyler Rivera

why do you ask?

Joshua King
Joshua King

Man, I'm pretty good with cringe, but this is too much.

Josiah Diaz
Josiah Diaz

AVGN movie really didn't turn out great. He also had to deal with the harsh reality of paying to film on location which set him back significantly.

Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

james rolfe is a massive faggot as well. least fagotty is mike by a mile.

Daniel Mitchell
Daniel Mitchell

I don't know why James did this

He actually betrayed fans who just wanted to see their fav internet guys and game review on big screen

youtube.com/watch?v=02A6wZMOLxs

Lincoln Jackson
Lincoln Jackson

implying

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

I agree with this. Watching them grow over a number of years, it seems to me like their channel's expansion has been more of a happy accident than anything else. Popularity to ad sales to revenue to new shows and gear and such.

There's other more serious reviewers, but there aren't any others who's tone, attitude, and independence are like RLM.

Landon Jones
Landon Jones

Yeah, there was no jokes at all.

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

He couldn't make a decent movie either.

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

Wait do Ralph's movies blow? I haven't watched one yet, arr they worth watching?

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

implying Space Cop isn't KINO

Owen Stewart
Owen Stewart

it isn't

it's just bad with no fun factor

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

faggot

Alexander Cooper
Alexander Cooper

Look in their fucking eyes, man. It's a joyless, pointless existence they're living

They used to not have them is the thing, like them reviewing movies was just something they did on the side for fun but it has evolved into their jobs and lively hoods and I think theyve grown to realize that which is why they feel so dead inside now.

Tyler Morgan
Tyler Morgan

oh nice a fart smeller job

Jonathan Roberts
Jonathan Roberts

uhhh what the fuck

Alexander Martin
Alexander Martin

I like james, but his movie was actually the worst one, because he actually tried and was invested in it, and it turned out to be the biggest turd of them all.

Kevin Harris
Kevin Harris

Idk man I think Jay over time has come to believe hes an artist and Mike probably honestly had potential.

Kayden Kelly
Kayden Kelly

I hated his comedy relief so much.

I do give it props for that Warwick davis moment. That made me laugh pretty hard.

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

They have no taste usually.

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

The AVGN movie was awful and I defend some of his recent AVGN episodes

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

I find Jame's long hiatus to make the movie really made his popularity wane while other nerd reviewers overtook him. It was a bad move all around.

Jeremiah Gutierrez
Jeremiah Gutierrez

not even that, you just read off of a wiki. AVGN is a work of pure passion though. Rolfe is an autistic hoarder.

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

99.9999999% of all art made ever is bad, this is just how hard it is to make something that is good

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

Once you review that many modern movies you realize how much are absolutely shit. It is enough to break anyone.

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

modern culture is nothing but regurgitation of classics. 1999 is pretty much the cut off point.

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

This. And it actually surprises me to read something like this on Cred Forums.

William Taylor
William Taylor

I think Jay over time has come to believe hes an artist
Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

I'm inclined to agree, to bring it to a general sense, it's incredibly easy to criticise something and it takes a lot more effort to create something even a fraction of as good yourself. It's why I can't really criticise teenagers for say busking badly, they have the confidence to try something.

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

Because it takes a certain kind of passion to keep going. Reviews are easier and don't require circumstances to line up.

Cameron Jones
Cameron Jones

Hold your horses, Oprah.

Before you leave her, I would consider reading the dialogue by Oscar WIlde called "Critic as Artist."

online-literature.com/wilde/1305/

In a way, Oscar WIlde was a troll. But he just so happened to write great plays as well lampooning morons of his day.

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

those who can't do, teach
those who can't teach, criticize

Jaxon Cook
Jaxon Cook

Being a buff and a critic is much easier than being a creator, so naturally their movies weren't great (though some of those weren't even trying). That said, they're above most dumb critics simply because they actually did attempt to create something. Also Space Cop is the #1 movie in Uganda
made his popularity wane while other nerd reviewers overtook him
It made his relevancy with his fans wane a bit, because his content is has been so hit and miss and sporadic ever since, but he's still getting like 1.5m+ views per video, he's doing pretty fantastic actually. Too bad Mike and that one fat dude are taking over the channel.

Tyler White
Tyler White

agreed, when he reviews stuff he likes out of character he's genuine and aware of some of the evident faults the film has unlike the rest of these cynical turds

Henry Rodriguez
Henry Rodriguez

I agree. The AVGN movie is the worst. There’s zero sincerity and it’s just Rolfe celebrating himself the whole time. I didn’t even laugh once, the jokes are all so fucking lame

Jack Cruz
Jack Cruz

Cinemassacre has been unbearable over the last year or so ever since they decided not to hang on to Bootsy. The content sucks. Stupid business blunder on their part to refuse to pay the guy who was keeping their reputation afloat

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

Just watched the Cinemassacre review of some anime game where a horse has the face of a man. Fucking garbage video, there were some fucking basic observations (ROFL THIS IS SO WACKY AND THEY ARE DRAWN DIFFERENT XD). I think I'm done with Cinemassacre, it's a good gateway to old b-movies but that's it.

Julian Murphy
Julian Murphy

Ashens and the Quest for the Gamechild is the only good one.

It's not amazing, it suffers from some dated jokes and crowbarred-in talent from the YouTube network that funded it. But, it's competent, Ashens is a decent comic lead and is genuinely affable enough for the whole thing to just hold together.

The theme song was pretty kino too.

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

Making a film is a completely different set of skills from being an entertaining film critic.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

I tried to watch it earlier but turned it off immediately after Mike tried to talk in the girl’s voice. I was embarrassed for him. I’m officially done

Asher Brown
Asher Brown

Just unsubbed from Cinemassacre this morning. Nice to know it’s not just me. Oh well, all good things must come to an end

Kevin Hernandez
Kevin Hernandez

Mike and Jay aren't filmmakers, they're entertainers. Sure, they went to film school but they're basically just comedians at this point.

why put effort into making Space Cop when you already get piles of cash from your patreon for doing nothing
spit out a half in the bag or review a few times a month

Nostalgia Critic blows and should die

Daniel Anderson
Daniel Anderson

I think Mike is married and has a child.

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

His was arguably the worst
Ironically the only person who can make a decent film is Ashens, and hes not pretentious about it and offers it for free

Angel Sanchez
Angel Sanchez

lies
rich has a fiance
aids moby is married
mike's gf is that jessie chick or whatever her name is
jay is forever alone because he never got over lauren
rich evans is the only one out of them engaged to be married
that fat slob

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