He won the challenge

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

He won the challenge. T'Challa had Zero (0) right to the throne.

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Christopher White
Christopher White

T'Challa didn't die
T'Challa didn't surrender

Nope. The challenge was still up

Alexander Carter
Alexander Carter

T'Challa needed invention from the gorilla nigs to stay alive

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

Intervention*

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

I was surprised he got beat. I suppose the takeaway is he was haunted by the sin of his father and his heart simply wasn’t in it? Brave narrative choice—they better not do that with Cap or I would be pissed.

Owen Ramirez
Owen Ramirez

Don't remember it fully but in the comic this was based off of T'Challa yielded to Killmonger after like a week straight of fighting or some shit. I think Killmonger was king for only an issue or 2 before he ate the heart shaped herb and fell into a coma since he couldn't handle it, allowing T'Challa to reclaim his throne.

Henry Perez
Henry Perez

What's the deal with the challenge anyway, at first I thought it was like weeding "Speak now or stay forever in silence". But does it mean that at any time some faggot can challenge you for the throne, what's stopping someone from challenging you when you get injured or when you get old?

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

Anytime a king does, any of the 3 other tribes can challenge his heir as weak.
Since Killmonger was of the same blood, he could claim to be the rightful heir.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

I think the movie sets it up where anyone can challenge for the throne during the crowning ceremony. Killmonger was only able to challenge him afterwords b/c he was apart of the royal bloodline/had a right to the throne/didn't have a chance to challenge during the ceremony b/c of this.

In the comics it's stated that any citizen can challenge the king at any time tho, so idk if that logic still holds here

Mason Hughes
Mason Hughes

I like his emo hair

William Rogers
William Rogers

Any faggot related to one of the main clans, like MBaku.
It was one of the things that seemed so weird to me: you're asking me to believe Wakanda is advanced because it has all this tech but they still decide on the leader through combat? What is this, TF2's Australia?

Parker Lopez
Parker Lopez

They were only allowed to challenge him during the crowning, the only reason he was able to challenge him again was because T'Challa let him.

Nolan Morgan
Nolan Morgan

Yes

Colton Gomez
Colton Gomez

I mean, luckily they sort of address this with how Shuri reacts to the whole ritual but it just seemed odd to me.
I mean, in the BP runs I've read, Wakanda is an ACTUAL third world nation until Tchalla gets back from his western education and realizes the potential of vibranium. So them having tribal traditions made sense in that context

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

meet 2 black girls from my uni today and they were talking about this
they were totally ecstatic, couldn't wait to see it
I'm in europe by the way

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

Doesn't change the fact. The challenge had rules. You win when the other person dies, or taps out.

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

because it's bretty gud tbqh

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

I was surprised he got beat.

Are you retarded? The fight happened with nearly an hour left in the movie. He was always going to lose the first fight. That's how these stories go.

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

years of combat experience and still hasnt learned to confirm his kills

I wonder how many of his scars are bullshit

Austin Miller
Austin Miller

t. person living in a society where they roleplay as being a democracy but really the leader is chosen by unelected representatives who can legally vote however they want and that still practices ritual sexual mutilation on their infant males

Leo Gutierrez
Leo Gutierrez

We'll but even the council doesn't vote in the next leader, it's based on physical strength in Wakanda.
I dunno, I was expecting more internal politics and less Game of Thrones

Nolan Nguyen
Nolan Nguyen

It also had rules about intervening. They got really upset when Forrest Whittakers character stepped in

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

Still within challenge perimeters.

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

t.some dumb faggot who can't tell the difference between a democracy and a republic.

Noah Martinez
Noah Martinez

So why was he crowned king without anyone confirming kill? T'challa not only needed intervention, but also the plant, which only kings are allowed. T'challa was not a king at that time.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

the number zero (0) was invented by an Indian
Whites btfo

Luke Barnes
Luke Barnes

Because movie

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

And wandering-eye was killed as a result. It doesn't mean click-click-smack automatically loses the fight.

Camden Morris
Camden Morris

Hey, the West is making progress (slowly) against the jew/muslim child genital mutilation fetish.

theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/18/iceland-ban-male-circumcision-first-european-country

Nolan Foster
Nolan Foster

being this much of an edgelord and clueless at the same time

Adrian Moore
Adrian Moore

presumed dead
literally needs the flower to survive because hes legally braindead only surviving in cyro state
B-BUT HE WASNT DEAD!

The challenge also states the king was to be stripped of the black panther, t'challa illegally used the power. DQ

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

But Killnigger also had Black Panther powers so the fight was fair

Leo Jenkins
Leo Jenkins

I paid to see this shit in the cinema. I didn't know how long was left. By the time the challenge scene started I was hoping it was almost fucking over.

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

How can you complain about freedom and colonization when you are a fucking monarchy decided by death match instead the vote?

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

So? Nothing says the challenger cant have it, just like nothing says presumed kills dont count

Samuel Murphy
Samuel Murphy

Only those of royal blood could handle the heart shaped herb and Killmonger wasn't.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

T'challa was not a king at that time.
Neither was Killmonger.
He still had the flower buffs though, so per the standards of the challenge, T'Challa having the benefits of the flower just reestablished the level playing field the king is depowered to attain in the challenge.

Jaxon Jackson
Jaxon Jackson

Nothing said challenger couldnt have buffs. Just the king was stripped.

Matthew James
Matthew James

Yes, because any buffs the challenger had paled next to the flower buffs. In that instance, and per overarching tradition, only the King was allowed the flower buff, which Killmonger was not. Therefore, Killmonger bent the rules, so T'Challa doing the same wasn't unfair.

Connor Miller
Connor Miller

Also T'Challa has his armor. Precedent shows only the Challenger could have armor.

Dylan Long
Dylan Long

The Ottoman Empire began its decline once its Sultans didn't kill all their pretenders to ascend to the throne, so I found it a fun bit of historical irony.

Aiden Cox
Aiden Cox

Precedent shows only the Challenger could have armor.
What precedent is that? M'baku in non Vibranium rags? Killmonger, who took his off before he actual began fighting? I'm seeing a whole lot of conjecture out of you, but nothing to back it up.

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

before the fighting began
The guy started the fight before he took his armor off. He took it off to show his dominance, not because he wasnt allowed

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

This is your last chance. Put down your weapons, and we can settle this another way
Puts down weapons, takes off armor, starts fighting
Viewing comprehension

Ethan Cook
Ethan Cook

really? not because of the industrial revolution that every other European country had going for them?

Nolan Reed
Nolan Reed

And T'challa killed him

What now, biatch?

Ryder Lee
Ryder Lee

its a confederate city state of tribes and shiet.
but then again its not real ok

Owen Miller
Owen Miller

I wasnt talking about T'Challa, I was talking about Zuri.

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

I disagree, but assuming you're correct, was Killmonger's Vegeta vest made of vibranium armor like the BP suit is made of?

I find it hilarious how the movie itself presents the challenge quite simply.

King is depowered and doesn't fight in his BP armor with the clear intent being that the assets that would guarantee a quick victory for the king be removed to establish a level playing field for combatants.

Whomever wins does so by killing their opponent or forcing their opponent to yield

Out of those two sets of margins, I cannot believe how much you are looking at the negative space beneath the two groups of parameters that are elevated, and focus on what wasn't specified as a blank check to make up your own rules and by extension reasons why the movie was bad, when by just adhering to what the movie actually establishes, it is entirely consistent.

Jose James
Jose James

THE GOOD
few quips, jokes were subdued (/co/ and /v/edditors will hate it for this)
decent characterization
decent use of setting
not very liberal
Armond White made a fantastic review on the surrounding politics and marketing of it
8/10, WAY better than the shitshow that was Ragnarok. Possibly better than Spiderman.

THE BAD
camera work is iffy during actions scenes, and often times a touch too zoomed in
when T'Challa takes Killmonger out to the sunset, we don't see any traces of the mine entrance/panther statue as they look towards the sun, almost as if they are out in the open
mediocre end to Klau
pretty sure slaves didn't throw themselves off ships, they were forcefully thrown off by the masters
Bucky should have made an appearance in the main movie

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

Their government is basically a wwe money in the briefcase stipulation

Oliver Watson
Oliver Watson

and bad cgi

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