Theories on Where the Fuck, the Soul Stone is:

Here's my two possibilities:
> Heimdell has been the keeper of the Soul Stone (or manifestation of a human form) the entire time. He is able to see everyone in the universe at once, he sees their souls
> Its buried deep under the soil of that funky garden in Black Panther, those plants allow you to contact the souls of your ancestors
Any other possibilities?

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cbr.com/adam-warlock-avengers-infinity-war/
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but the real question is... who cares?

I do, next question.

Well gee, the biggest film franchise in the world has sort of being leading up to it so a lot of people probably.

Look, I haven't watched Black Panther yet, but I assume Soul Stone is not in it or this thread wouldn't exist.

Why could the stone not be introduced in Avengers 4? If we believe MCU's claim that Avengers 3 and 4 is about Thanos being the protagonist, then it makes sense that he would end up geting the missing stone himself, from an alien planet. Remember that in the original comics the stones were scattered everywhere and not just hanging around Earth. So why would it be surprising if at least one of the stones is not actually introduced until Thanos started hunting for it?

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You have to admit that would be a tad weird, even if it is the most likely case. Every stone has had a whole film dedicated to how power it is to make each stone look like a dangerous force of nature. It would be odd if they just decided not to give the last one any time to showcase it's power.

>Space Stone
>Asgard
>Heimdall

Um.. what? The Space Stone is inside the Cosmic Cube, which is being held in Odin's weapons vault. Or, at least it was until Surtur destroyed Asgard. Now Loki has it.

The graphic was probably made before Ragnarok

All we knew was that Thor brought the Tessaract back to Asgard and used its power to recreate the Bifrost (which he broke)

didn't a spoiler somewhere state that in order to summon the soul stone one needs to acquire the other gems to reveal its location.
This reminds me of the illuminati issue where reed found a gem between realities when he had control of the gauntlet with the other gems.

but seriously why doesnt thanos embed the gems in his spine

now you say heart

that could mean heart of the universe that was in the spoiler where the soulstone would be located after thanos assemble the rest of gems

>All we knew was that Thor brought the Tessaract back to Asgard and used its power to recreate the Bifrost

I never got that impression. Always figured they just rebuilt it with their own labor force. Even at the end of Avengers it seemed obvious it was going to go right back into Odin's vault.

The shitty noncanon tie in comics had Thor give the cube to Heimdall so that he could use the energy to re-create the Bifrost

And then when Loki pretended to be Odin he banished Heimdall and took the Tesseract away from him to put in the vault.

Nowhere, because souls don't exist.

You should know that with how everything in the MCU is ran by science that the soul stone doesn't exist.

Klaue has it and will revive

You know what I bet? Ike Perlmutter was pushing for the stones to be central to the plot of so many films, and now that he's gone, they stopped pushing them. Isn't it coincidental that the stones stop being used in the films the moment he's gone?

It’s underneath Wakanda. Everything seems to hint at it, Wakanda was built on top of a asteroid, Black Panthers are able to speak to the souls of the dead etc.

Thanos steals it from the trunk of Iron Mans battle car

>Any other possibilities?

inb4 it's the macguffin of Ant Man 2

>Carol has been trapped inside the Soul Stone for 20 years

We all do faggot, this shit is hype as fuck to me.

I hope it's not on Earth
There's been too much interaction with infinity stones on Earth

Maybe Thanos already has that one?
He has been after these things for a while, soul stone could have been the start of his collection.

Maybe
It feels weird that he'd start this without having at least one already

I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if it's on Earth or Asgard

>Space Stone/Tesseract
was hidden in Norway
>Reality Stone/Aether
was sealed away by Odin's daddy in a realm that conveniently intersects midgard
>Time Stone/Eye of Hellomoto
was kept by the ancient one at hogwarts
>Mind Stone/Scepter
Thanos had it, gave it to Loki who brought it to Earth because that totally wasn't a retcon

the power stone is the only one that was hidden somewhere else.

they could have had a way out by saying that Odin himself had the gauntlet at one point and separated the stones which would explain why 3/6 of them were on Earth or Asgard AND explaining why he had the gauntlet in his vault, but Ragnarok already said that gauntlet was a fake so... I'm betting they didn't plan any of this and the soul stone is gonna show up on earth somewhere and they're never going to bother explaining why.

He did, with the Mind Stone (which Loki lost). Loki is SO dead.

canonically, the only device that can actually control the power of the stones is the gauntlet. people as powerful as thanos can handle a single stone, but once you get more than one you're fucked without the gauntlet.

It seems odd he'd go after all of them without at least having one on his titan

which is funny because initially, the "gauntlet" was just the glove thanos was wearing when he stuck the gems to it

I'm honestly somewhat counting on it

To be fair the whole point of Thor the Dark World was that all 9 Realms were randomly intersecting because of a cosmic convergence, and Jane was specifically seeking out weak points when she encountered the Aether

Wicked ass armor, it'd be a shame if he didn't wear it tho

The stones were scattered everywhere though.
>Space Stone: Tesseract, found on Earth
>Mind Stone: Loki's scepter; given to him by Thanos
>Power Stone: The Orb, on a distant planet, then given to the Nova Corps
>Reality Stone: The Aether: iirc it was in Asgard's vault or one of the other 9 realms
>Time Stone: Eye of Agamotto: Found on Earth

Only 2/5 were on Earth, which is an astronomical coincidence but the magicians in Dr. Strange go through dimensions the way i go through porn so it was bound to pass through Midgard eventually. No clue as to why the Tesseract was there.

Anyway, since we know that Thanos had the Mind Stone and gave it to Loki, it's not a huge stretch to guess that he had the Soul Stone the whole time as well

>soul gem is in the meteor under Wakanda and is the reason heart-shaped herb works as it does
Oh shit nigga, I like that theory.
Why else would we have so much Wakanda stuff in Infinity War trailer, if it's not Thanos' guys trying to get the gem from there.

We just had this thread and no one bought your Wakanda bullshit speculation. In fact, the rumored spoilers are looking more real by the day, and the Soul GEM is said to be in a pocket dimension

It's because they're housing Vision there for protection. Notice how he's absent from the fight

THIS

Harry Potter is over, man.

Loki can just say that The Other tricked him.

You have to wander how the fuck Loki forgot to fetch the sceptre after Thor knocked it out of his hand.

I think the Asguardians had the Teseract first. Red Skull said himself it was left on Earth by the Gods themselves. I think Odin left it on Earth but Thor took it back for safe keeping.

The films have already suggested that a different form of magic was used; after all, the original bifrost didn't require the tesseract as far as anything has stated.
Most of those differ from the film (in particular the Cap prequel comics, for example). The films themselves contradict this.

Actually to build more on my post, I bet the Asguardians did have the Teseract and they used it to build the original Byfrost. Also in the flashbacks of the Dark World, Thors granddaddy went to the Elf world and fucked shit up. I bet he used it to travel there. He then stuck the Aether somewhere else as he knows it's dangerous to keep two Inifinty Stones together.

Do you guys think the Wakandan spirit world has anything to do with the visions Thor had in AoU or nah?

It should be Adam Warlock but the MCU basically said ‘Muh casual audience won’t understand’ So Panther God garden

soul stone?
you mean the reality one?

idk man maybe galactus has it or something

The reality stone was the plot device in Thor 2

>Black nation has the Soul Stone
You racist ass honky ass jive ass motherfucker.

I share your autism, but having the Soul Stone magically pulling all the others towards it would actually be an acceptable justification for it.

Klaue has it

I think that Realm of the Dead is basically a section of Astral Plane ruled over by Bast, and the dead king spirits are astral energy absorbed by the Vibranium rich soil.

Scarlet Witch gave him those, so no. The Waters of Sight just jolted his memory. The extended scene is a lot more elaborate though.

youtube.com/watch?v=zLxEDaA9j2E

It's in Wakanda, it came on the Vibranium meteor. It's in the earth under Wakanda, and they may or may not know.

Or, like the Aether, it's taken a separate form and is the orange sand that the Wakandan's use to commune with the afterlife.

That's stupid

Meh, sucks for you then.

Thanos is attacking Wakanda for a reason, it's there. Cry more.

The sand isnt there for communication. The herb does that.

It's because Vision is being held there

Or Steve takes Vision there because he's injured and made of Vibranium and it's the most heavily fortified location to defend him?

Nah, we've seen the scene where Vision loses the Stone it doesn't fir the Wakanda part of the film; Cap has no shield and Scarlet Witch is happy/surprised to see him, the Wakanda fight will be the end of the movie.

Unless they get through Cap fighting out in the open and then he comes out of the shadows after that to fight Proxima Midnight.

>"I love the Infinity Stones as much as any comic book fan, it’s just Wakanda already has its thing, which is Vibranium.
>For us, that was special enough, so to throw in something like another special thing didn’t feel right. It felt like we should stick with our one MacGuffin for the country and explore that, let that be the important thing because, frankly we didn’t need to have another piece like that,” Coogler explained.
>“[Marvel Studios] never really was interested in putting a stone in there, either. "

slashfilm.com/black-panther-infinity-stones/

These anons are right

Vision gets rescued by Cap, Widow and Falcon. My guess is they go to the New Avengers facility, hijack a Quinjet, and take Vision to Wakanda. It's tough to tell, but it looks like he still has the Stone here.

He doesn't love the stone, he gets severely wounded ALMOST losing the stone. Super Bowl ad shows Vision walking behind Steve, hurt, still with the stone. Vision is their final line in the sand, their only stone, and Wakanda is the only place capable of healing him/protecting him

No. They're not. Vision will get hit near the beginning of the film, it's where they'll learn about Thanos wanting the Stones.

As we saw in the Superbowl trailer, an injured Vision will be taken to an Avengers facility where we'll then be introduced to Thanos' mission, the Black Order, and Vision learning to live without the Stone before joining the final Wakanda fight.

We don't even know if Vision CAN live without the Stone. And even if he could, he wouldn't have any fucking powers any more. He'd just be a synthezoid with no power source.

Which is why he loses it in the beginning and learns to live without it, then he joins the fight later (that's the audience "surprise character joins the fight moment")

>Vision reduces to a final battle surprise character for the 3rd time

I hope not

ultron did fine without it, why not?

I guess Vision could survive without the Stone, but he still wouldn't have any powers. Literally all of his abilities are derived from the Stone. A second act training montage isn't enough to make him relevant for the final battle.

I don't think any character will be a surprise in this, man.

but scarlet witch does though, which is what they'll probably do

They've been setting up Vision living without it already: "You know, I don't even understand what this does" - Vision THINKS he needs it to survive.

And Witch beating him by manipulating it expresses that it can be a weakness of sorts.

Vision losing it will be a step on the path to becoming more human.

>WAAAAH! IM RIGHT!!
You're the same underage baby from last thread who doesn't understand speculation

Nah, this is the first thread I've been in, you're the one getting upset dude.

I was responding to a "no, you're wrong" with a "no, you're wrong". Settle down. As you say, it's just speculation.

yup, totally agree, the writing seems to lead there

What about the density manipulation?

>which is what they'll probably do
So, you think Scarlet Witch is going to animate Vision? Or at least repower him. I think that could work, but I dunno if they'd do it in Infinity War. It doesn't seem like something that you settle in one film. They'd stretch that out into Avengers 4, I reckon.

Alright, fair enough. It's just that people swore up and down before that Hela had the soul gem, and look how that panned out for them

well, I think they've been avoiding the "power of love" trope for a reason but yeah, don''t know how or where it would fit, just feel it will happen

What about it? Scarlet Witch manipulated the Mind Stone and made Vision really, really heavy. I'd assume the density manipulation comes from the Stone.

Corny, but maybe it'll be a "power of love" thing. Scarlet Witch's love for Vision allows her to reach a power level that she hadn't reached before and she grants him at least some of his power back, and maybe Stark/Wakandan tech will grant him his phasing back for Avengers 4

Or she manipulated his mind as she's been known to do.

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(you)

>Literally all of his abilities are derived from the Stone.

Are they? Other than his laser blast we don't know if they come from his physiology or the stone.

I don't know what you mean by that. Whenever she's manipulated people in the past it's been a way of showing them visions. You think she mind-tricked him into making himself heavier? He was fully cognizant the whole time, so I dunno about that.

They are setting up Vibranium as some almost magical shit in the MCU.

Perhaps Ultron understood a way to manipulate it that hasn't been used before.

Dafuq is dis samefag shit??

Or the macguffin in Captain Marvel. At the end of her movie she "dies" while holding it, and then in Avengers 4 it resurrects her to explain why she's in the 2010s now.

It's in waukanda. They need a reason to be attacked early and bring black panther into it.

Movies have cliche tropes

He did have his line about how it's the most versatile substance on the planet and retarded humans just make a frisbee out of it.

That's the most obvious, uncreative shit ever, and that would mean 3 fucking stones were on Earth the entire time.

I think the Skrulls will be too important of a plot point to push the Stone in there, gotta make sure that the audience fully understands them for the rumored big Skrull stuff in Phase 4.

I doubt they would have gone an entire movie without mentioning it if it was in Wakanda

Man, they've gone whole hog on Vibranium. It does pretty much anything imaginable in Black Panther, it's ridiculous.

(me) poster here
its two different people coming to the same conclusion
I feel its nice that others look at it in similar ways

That could go for any other movie though, too.

I see three things: we've either seen where it is already, they'll try to introduce a new area into a pretty stuffed film, or Thanos already has it.

It may be unoriginal, but that's movies a lot of the time. If there are three of them on earth that means that OUR home is being destroyed, not just some random planets. Simple emotional connections.

Pay no heed, lads, we're doing good shit here.

I'm gonna refer you to my earlier post where I provide a quote from the writer and director of Black Panther in which he states that there is no Infinity Stone in Wakanda, and that Marvel Studios didn't ever want there to be.

Given Oshtur rules the Astral Plane, this is feasible as Best is allied with Oshtur and Gaea, assuming they exist in the MCU.

Could be with Adam Warlock since he was often known to have it.

I'd like to remind everyone of the recent leaks that are gradually becoming more valid with each bit of info rolling in, which state the Soul Stone is only accessible through a pocket dimension when all the other stones are collected. Why am I bringing it up? Because they got the Stormbreaker plot point right

Vibranium may be metal altered by the souk stone, this would explain its flexibility and durability.

He ain't showing up till Guardians Vol. 3 according to James Gunn.

That's what I wish they'd do, but they already gave the "forehead Stone" thing to Vision, and Warlock apparently won't be seen until Guardians 3

It was set into Adam Warlocks sarcophagus cocoon at the end of Guardians 2. Why is anyone still making theories when it was literally shown ok screen right next to its original comic book location?

Huh, that'd be pretty cool actually.

We already know that part of is not most of IW takes place off Earth
I doubt the Nova Corp have it but it's more likely that they have it than Wakanda
Besides it's the whole fucking universe that's in trouble

thats dumb imo

Corvus will try to draw Wanda out by some tactic.

Vibranium has always been magic bullshit. And its not exactly a hard metal, it just absorbs kinetic energy, thus making blunt force attacks useless
Well I left out a crucial tidbit, but thats a real spoiler
Dumb or not, that's the most concrete theory we have right now. And the means to get it is actually the most secure safeguard of all the stones

That breaks like every other incarnation of the infinity gauntlet

Besides, it wasn't too hard to guess the Stormbreaker plot
They had already shown Thor getting an axe in concept art

>Breaks every other incarnation of the infinity gauntlet
These movies haven't been accurate since day one. The Space Gem certainly wasn't originally in the Cosmic Cube for example. And the reason why the Stormbreaker leak holds weight is because its handle clearly was made by Groot, something not seen in concept art, and only stated in those leaks

Gee I wonder where the fuck the Soul gem could be...

Literally none of this is like any other incarnation of the Infinity Gauntlet, user.

Adam's not being introduced till Guardians 3, stop crying about "muh space Jesus". Much as I'd love to see him with the Soul Stone, it ain't happening.

What, the big YELLOW dot on top of the cocoon? The Mind Stone is yellow, the Soul Stone is orange.

It's possible it's there, but this plot point apparently won't be visited again until Guardians 3.

The reality stone wasn't even a stone, it was like the monster from Lost. I don't see what picking over hue is meant to achieve.

Except it was literally there on screen.

The colors do matter though, the Aether may be a liquid, but it can't suddenly be blue.

Warlock won't have it man, Vision took his carrier of a Stone role in the MCU.

It what natural way could they incorporate Adam Warlock in this plot that doesn't seem heavy handed? You know what he was in the original Infinity Gauntlet storyline? A know it all asshole.
Actually, they don't, the mind stone is proof of this. It was in a blue casing, later revealed to be yellow.

>tfw Infinity War releases and the Soul Gem is not Heimdall, Adam Warlocks cacoon, or any other stupid fan theory

>make up random rules from my headcanon
>It's impossible!!
>makes up random bullshit like it being under the heart shaped herb with no evidence or hint at all besides your own headcanon
>wow so plausible! Let's debate this for days! It's so likely! Let's ignore literally seeing the fucking stone with our eyes on screen!

Just like how the yellow mind stone was being kept in Loki's blue sceptre since it got retconned to being in there.

>I didn't like Adams character in the comics so he has literally not place in the MCU
What, you think he's not going to be in a movie? What kind of fucking idiot are you?

Adam Warlock

You're getting pretty upset about this.

How are you gong to feel when Warlock does NOT have the Soul Stone?

Was it a retcon thought if Loki was able to control people’s minds in Avengers with it?

>Thanos has it all along

>name calling means I'm upset
Get some thicker skin you fucking pansy. Adam was already confirmed on screen to have it, unless they retcon anything else is impossible so your question is moot.

James Gunn already called dibs on Adam Warlock
He's not gonna appear until Guardians 3

Yeah, the yellow stone was housed in a blue casing created by the guy who is the master of knowing how to control these things.

That aside, it was clearly approached this way to throw people off the trail. Let's ignore that literally every other appearance of a Stone has the colors being very specific.

>“Adam Warlock will not be in Infinity War,” Gunn stated, bluntly.”He will have a future in the MCU. But will it be in Infinity War? It will not.”

screenrant.com/adam-warlock-not-involved-avengers-infinity-war-james-gunn/

Warlock isn't appearing until Guardians 3 dude, why are you intentionally being ignorant.

Vision literally took Warlock's gimmick. He's not in Infinity War.

So maybe Warlock doesn't emerge until Then, good thing the stone is visibly on the outside of the cocoon so he doesn't have to appear. Also, never trust Hollywood leaks. Remember the actor who played Darth Vader didnt even know they were going to dub him out until he saw the movie premier.

user, I am laughing.
That's one of those Annulax batteries that the Sovereign were so protective of. At the start of the movie, the tower the Guardians are defending even has the winged headed falcon from Warlock's staff.

I never said that. All I'm saying is that he's had no lead up nor mention to being involved in the Infinity War plotline, or at least Part 1. He was heavily implied for Guardians 3 however. These movies have been wildly off source material already, so its not hard to assume Adam won't matter in this plotline. We'd be lucky to get the Cosmic Entities like Eternity or Death at this point

You're accusing people of ignoring other stones when you're literally ignoring a stone. Also who the fuck said Loki is master of controlling it? He's god of magic and illusion, not god of cosmic artifacts.

>Adam is confirmed to have a stone
No, he hasn't

And Banner has replaced Silver Surfer crashing into Doctor Strange's house to warn him.

The movie won't follow the comic to the letter. Warlock isn't appearing.

How the fuck is the same scene lead up in one case but not in another? That's just willful stupidity.

Pic related is the best shot I could find on Google, but they get right up close to it in the opening sequence.

I just wanna know what the fuck happens in 4

Well considering we saw him on screen with a stone, yes he was.

Thanos dummy. He made the scepter. I have four examples, you have one.

It was only there to throw people off, because the colors matter. "It's not the Mind Stone in Loki's Scepter, the gem is blue there" get it?

You watch for the colors.

In what way does Adam's cocoon imply its leading to Infinity War, that isnt your own personal headcanon?
That's your headcanon, not a confirmed stone. Are you the same guy last thread who was whining up and down that Wakanda had the Soul Stone?

So there's an eagle, so what. His new lore is that he comes from these people anyways. It still doesn't look anything like the batteries.

Now you’re just baiting at this point

Spoiler alert: It's on the planet Iron Man, Spidey, and the Guardians are on on that leaked trailer

It implies that Adam is in a movie confirmed, you're the one trying to headcanon in which movie that applies he's in.

And no, that's just making up random shit. When we literally saw something in screen it's not a headcanon to say what it was.

>no
>yes
>WOW NO ARGUMENT JUST BAIT
or it's responding in kind.

The eagle is a visual cue to Warlock's comic book design. It's a hint. An Easter egg, if you will. The eagle is perched on a tower of Anulax batteries in between two other towers of Anulax batteries.
You're probably baiting, but Jesus Christ you're autistic if not.

I wish I could see your face when those movie comes out and it’s revealed to be on some random ass planet where Iron Man, Strange, Star Lord, and Spider-Man face Thanos

It didn't imply anything other than Adam is coming. The only reason you think a stone is involved is because comic Warlock is heavily tied to the Soul Gem. You're jumping the gun a bit here. Hell, Adam's cocoon in Guardians 1 was an easter egg mistake, and look at all the wild speculation that created

What are you even trying to say? You're arguing against what's literally confirmed, it was the mind stone and it was blue. It shouldn't surprise me that you willfully ignore what's I'm screen when you still are trying to figure out where the mind stone is after it's been confirmed.

Post yfw Adam stays in the cocoon all the way through Phase 4

A hint at what? You're grasping at straws here. If it really was a battery why would they secret that information away and hide it behind hints if the answer just doesn't mean anything anyways? Again, you're just making stuff up.

Loki talks to Hawkeye as if the Tesseract is what's controlling him after Selvig talks about it showing him things. There's juuuuust enough leeway to get away with it.

You directly said in no uncertain terms right here that you think it implies a specific movie, so miss me with that "I'm not claiming any specific movie" bullshit. Get some self awareness, your claims are hypocritical.

Really? This is still going on? We've seen it already.

You're getting awfully defensive about this for some reason. The only reason I said it implies Guardians 3 is, guess what, its sequel bait thats in a Guardians movie. Do you have ANY evidence to suggest that its instead for Infinity War other than a speculated stone that you pulled from your own headcanon?

Hint's the wrong word. But you're focusing real hard on what's essentially a light source. The Sovereign's society functions on Anulax batteries. There's an Easter egg in a scene with a bunch of them that references Adam Warlock (the eagle head). Why are you more attached to the Soul Stone idea over the battery idea? Heck, when Warlock first emerged from his cocoon, he didn't have the Gem. Even the second time he appeared he didn't have it. It wasn't till Roy Thomas took him on that he had the Gem and even then, it wasn't an Infinity Gem. It took about twenty years before the Gem was referred to as an Infinity Gem. Adam's spent more time without the Soul Gem on his head than he has with it on his head.

I know they're not canon, but the tie-in comic for Age of Ultron implies there's a connection between the blue casing on the sceptre and the Tesseract's energy signature.

>the only reason I think it's for G3 is because it is
And Thanks being shown after credits in Avengers means he was supposed to be in Age of Ultron right? Just because it was at the end of one movie doesn't mean it's for that direct sequel, all these movies intersect. The scene at the end of Doctor Strange was a scene directly pulled from Ragnarok for fucks sake.

You keep calling it headcanon but we both saw an object and both are trying to name it, the only bullshit headcanon stuff here is people claiming it to be in Wakanda or Heimdal.

>muh "so defensive, so mad" defense
We're both stating our case, what next are you going.to ask me why I'm arguing while presenting an argument in the same post? I see that same shit from people who make weak arguments like you a lot too.

>Heck, when Warlock first emerged from his cocoon, he didn't have the Gem
Interesting defense from someone who's been projecting "but this isn't like the comics!" at me. And it doesn't have to be embedded in his damn skull, I'm claiming it's on the outside of his cocoon not in his epidermis so keep trying to project arguments I'm not making on me I guess.

I'm sorry but exactly when or where did they imply the BATTERY on top of the cocoon was of any importance or make it visual cue to make it important? The only thing important was the cocoon itself, and the stinger "Hey Adam is finally coming!".

>or make it visual cue
First of all its clearly the focal point of the entire shot, but second of all even though this reality would help my case, I have to say that it being the focal point doesn't have anything to do with what it is.

I haven't made any "not like the comics arguments". I'm this guy:
My whole argument hedges on comic book references. I'm asking you why you're ignoring one Easter egg in favour of a lesser substantiated idea. It makes more sense that the cocoon has a battery in it, and not an Infinity Stone. It's just less fanciful.

I'd like to make it very clear that you're arguing with several people on this, not just me, and evidence is weak at best.

Oh ok, thanks for telling me I can completely disregard you. He movies aren't like the comics and that's all I need to say. I appreciate you saving us both time.

I know I am, and that reply is only referencing one point raised in one post so I'm not sure why you're bringing up that there's more people here.

Might point is that all you've done thus far is argue with several people demanding up and down that Adam's cocoon has a infinity stone, when your evidence to support such a claim is wildly speculative and suggestive. You have no hard evidence to support it, other than "it looks like a stone". This is like saying the Casket of Ancient Winters is a stone.

I'm not saying the movies are like the comics either. Your attachment to the Soul Stone idea is what prompted me to bring up Warlock's history, but I'll admit that that was unnecessary. My main thing is that I'm referring to an Easter egg from a movie that's a visual cue to a character from the comics, and that character is teased in a post-credits scene. That character's whole origin has been altered to fit a new universe, and he comes from a society that keeps a very large supply of a very particular power source all to themselves. If the Sovereign wanted to make a "perfect being" they'd probably use the batteries.

And what's your theory? That it's under the garden in Wakanda or something? Absolutely nothing in this thread has any value besides speculation, it being the object at the head of the cocoon is the only thing that has even a modicum of evidence.

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Nice deflection. I never said anything about Wakanda, and that theory is dumb too. You still didn't answer my question.

The image itself isn't evidence. Provide another piece of evidence.

I didn't deflect I asked what your theory was. It's a valid point to make when you're criticising the lack of evidence. I'd bet a lot thay whatever you think has even less.
Also you didn't ask a question for me to answer, I don't even know what the fuck you mean with "why won't you answer my question".

It's a hell of a lot more evidence that Heimdal literally being the soul stone. You might as well say Thanos' yellow glove isn't the infinity gauntlet just because nobody has verbally identified it yet. Just look at it, we all know what it is, don't be obtuse.

You have yet to present HARD EVIDENCE that its a stone.

What do you think a theory thread is? Why are you here? Is there literally any theory at all that satisfies you here or are you just shitposting?

Part of creating a good theory is having proper evidence to back it. Like a few ideas in this thread, you suck at forming an argument to convince people.

Literally nothing in this thread is based off of anything aside from off-screen assumptions. Look at the damn OP for fucks sake, the two most fanfiction dot net theories I've ever heard. At least mine is based on this we have literally seen on the screen instead of making shit up. For the third time, what is your theory? If you don't answer me this time I'll just have to assume you're only arguing for the sake of arguing and I'll ignore you.

If it's a fact, it isn't a theory.

Wasn't there some throw away line about Heimdal having a garden in one of the movies?
Heimdal's garden is Wakanda.

Literally what.

>"Literally nothing in this thread is based off of anything aside from off-screen assumption"

So this: And also this:
>During a recent Q&A session on Facebook, James Gunn (the director of both Guardians of the Galaxy films) revealed that Warlock would not be appearing in the upcoming Avengers: Infinity War despite his introduction into the MCU. “Adam Warlock will not be in Infinity War,” Gunn stated, bluntly.”He will have a future in the MCU. But will it be in Infinity War? It will not.”
cbr.com/adam-warlock-avengers-infinity-war/

If you're right, and I doubt you are, then Warlock would have to be in Avengers 4. Which they just recently finished filming. And we heard of no casting for Warlock.

TRIPS OF TRUTH
IT WAS HEIMDALL ALL ALONG

Hey I'm going by the current "Leaks" at this current time given how they're starting to line up. Could be wrong, but more tangible than the Warlock theory.
Never said it was fact, only that his arguments weren't convincing

Those aren't theories, and as I already pointed out earlier directors lie. I'm done now, asked you a simple question 3 times and you refuse to answer. You're clearly a shitposter, have fun wasting your time in another thread where someone will reply to you.

You're not going by anything, you're just shitting on other people and presenting nothing yourself.

You didn't specify theories, you said that everything in the thread is based off of off-screen assumptions. I'm glad you've given up. And also, I'm not the user you were asking questions of, I'm the guy who was talking about the batteries. Y'know, the one whose been presenting proper counter-evidence for you to shrug off.
You should get better at recognising when you're talking to new people.

I just answered your question, and that wasn't me. I just said I'm going by those leaks. Since they're not officially confirmed, it's the theory I'm going with
Again, not true. You're just throwing a fit because people aren't agreeing with you

>You didn't specify theories
Interesting, >For the third time, what is your theory?
So either you're clinically impaired or you're confirming you're a shitposter.

Motherfucker you've been asked on repeat what your theory and you've said NOTHING. That's the definition of presenting nothing yourself. Just stop.

Can we ignore the Cocoon autist? He's successfully derailed the thread.

Did you ignore the part where I said I wasn't the guy you've been asking for a theory from? That was my response to your "What is your theory" question. The other stuff I posted was in response to the fact that you said that the thread is full of unsubstantiated claims. Meanwhile, you're making the most unsubstantiated claim in the thread.
If you must know, I'm with the guy who's basing his theories on the leaks. The Soul Stone's in a pocket dimension accessible via the assembly of the Gauntlet and a human sacrifice. The reason I believe the leaks is because they made reference to Thor going to get a new hammer with Rocket and Groot, and all the footage we've seen from the movie makes me think that's legit.

>a theory details a theory thread when someone refusing to state a theory does not
Nice try, we all know it's you.

>We
You're alone, dude.

Turbo autist, its a single reply. I don't care if that was your first post in the whole thread it was still a question unanswered that you're STILL not answering. I don't care if even THIS post is your first post in the thread and you're a new guy altogether I'm still asking a question what is your theory that you're still not answering. I don't get why you're trying to pull this "I'm not him" garbage when I'm not implying that you're anyone in particular at all. Answer the question already or fuck off.

Alone in what? You're saying this thread is just me and you? Nobody is fooled by you, everyone can see you're just the same salty faggot trying to avoid answering a question.

I just answered your theory question. I put it right there are the bottom of my post.

You think that because Thor has a new hammer, that means that the soul stone requires human sacrifice, plus some extra entirely made up stuff about a pocket dimension. And you think THAT has more basis than "the soul stone is probably what was attached to Adams cocoon."

Yep.

What fucking leak says any of that

What does the hammer have to do with literally anything else in that theory? You are completely pulling it out of your ass. If i tried to make up a.comicallt exaggerated bad theory it probably wouldn't sound as bad as yours.

I didn't think anything could top "Heimdal IS the soul stone" in absolute ridiculousness.

>His race switching was a plot point all along

taking these two
>not in Vol. 3
>not in IW
>Avengers 4 doesn't have a title
AW will appear in A4

where did the said that?

It's possible, but also directors flat out lie to hide plots twists commonly.

This is next level.

Lotta people referring to leaks, so might as well provide 'em. No source provided, but these were posted today. I recall seeing similar threads a couple o' months ago. Can't find any of those threads in the archive though.

They don't have to follow the comics exactly.

Personally I feel the cosmic cube is a lazy mcguffin.

Same thread was posted on Cred Forums, but refers to the leaks being old. Still looking for the originals.

Retconned yes, but potentially a great retcon if you have the blue case be an attempt by Thanos to hide it that Ultron BTFO, or a ruse by Chthon to smuggle the mind stone to Earth.

God, I wish The Other had been Chthon. I remember when everyone was so convinced he was going to replace Mephisto.

It wasn't a retcon, it was just subversion.

He's hard to introduce in a movie that has a ton of characters.

I just told you my theory you illiterate; Pocket dimension

IMHO Banner and Wanda both replace Surfer.
Vision broadly fills Warlock's role.

The hammer confirmation gives validity to the other info posted, including the pocket dimension theory

Reality Stone/Aether is there. Guardians go there after learning from Collector, and Tony Strange Spidey arrive in the Freaky Circle ship.

It's just random idiots posting of the internet.

A'ight, I found the old thread with the leaks. It's from November.

desuarchive.org/co/thread/97093866/#97100368

Those spoilers were posted weeks before we saw images of the Stormbreaker toy, which directly confirms Groot made the handle. That alone gives some credit to them, and this isn't the first time spoilers were posted on Cred Forums prior to release.

The second makes sense honestly

It's an easily predicted guess, and j ist because the handle is wood doesn't mean it's directly confirmed to be groots. You guys are assuming an absolute shitload of information just because someone guessed that Thor gets a replacement weapon.

I understand that you probably don't wanna be spoiled, but the thread I posted here was two days before the first trailer even dropped, and since then, every trailer, TV Spot, and toy has only served to verify a lot of the information in the leaks.

Spoilers don't bother me, I honestly don't get why they bother anyone. I'm just saying you have to approach leaks assuming they're fake until they prove real, not assuming they're real until disproven. He got one lucky guess, it doesn't mean everything is true just because the barest minimum simplest thing was true.

Then why is Thor shown to be with Rocket/Groot, and why does the handle have leaves? Properly forged weapons don't have green fauna on the handles, they're sculpted and properly leather griped just like Thor's old hammer

>One lucky guess
That was one hell of a guess, user. It's a minute specific detail that ended up true

Astral projecting in Dr. Strange established souls. They used the word.

i thought it was in visions forehead. thanos is going to rip it out and kill him

Groot has like 2 or 3 leaves on his entire body, sometimes none. Leaves are not indicative of groot. It a possibly it's a branch from Yggrasil. His old hammer wasn't wood at all, only metal and leather.

That's the Mind Stone.

They also mention that Doctor Strange, Iron Man and Spidey end up in the ship over New York. And like I said, this was two days before the first trailer, and three/four months before we saw those three together in the ship in the Super Bowl Spot.

>It a possibly it's a branch from Yggrasil

In the movies, the world tree is a tree-shaped nebula.

Or a tree-shaped energy construct that grows out of the Bifrost if you leave it running for too long. It's not entirely clear. Either way we see it in Thor 1 and it's not a real tree, it's a metaphor for the way the 9 realms, which in the MCU are planets not separate dimensions, are connected in space.

Groot has been shown numerous times to grow vines covered with leaves, and be able to detach from them at will. And Yggdrasil isn't even a real tree in this universe, its a network of wormholes the Bifrost can access

also predicted months before confirmation that bruce would be piloting the hulkbuster

The Soul Stone is linked to every Sentient creature.
It's a spiritual aspect that protects the stone from coming in contact with the other stones as it's completely separated from the others through a barrier in reality or another plain of existence.

The only way of obtaining the Soul Stone is through the action of true sentience, not instinct.

Nah son, the very first trailer was shown privately in SDCC, which was in July 2017, and it leaked soon after.

A lot of the info from the plot leak could have been deduced from it, such as the Wakanda invasion, Winter Soldier in Wakanda, the Hulkbuster, Thor + Guardians, Spidey and Tony in NY, Thanos going after The Collector, Cap rescuing Wanda and Vision, the attack on the Asgardian ship and Loki's actions, and the big battle with Thanos at that very orange place.

Admittedly, it showed nothing about Thor's new weapon.

Some things could be gathered from the comics, like Strange and Ebony Maw being enemies, because that's the only thing of note Ebony Maw ever did.

Well like it or not, the new hammer details correlate with the rumors posted far prior to its reveal, and the best evidence we have at this time to prove their validity. "Lucky guess" is an understatement given how specific the details were regarding the weapon, and it sheds light on Peter Dinklage's secret role

>No clue as to why the Tesseract was there.

Odin hid it there. Captain America went over this.

Personally, I think the leaks are true for those same reasons, but I'm too autistic to ignore that the SDCC trailer was already out well before the leaks appeared. So make of that what you will.

The Ebony Maw stuff correlates to a set photo as well. Tom Vaughan Lawlor's playing Ebony Maw.

but was it out before the leaks?

God yeah. That's an old as fuck picture.

cheers about that then

I'll elaborate actually, because we didn't know he was Ebony Maw at the time. We guessed, of course.

It's pretty clear that the ringed ship that crashes on the alien ruined world is the same one Spidey hitches onto and is likely what he and Tony/Strange are inside at the beginning of the Super Bowl trailer. This is how they meet the Guardians.

The scene with Wanda and Vision has multiple layers; Vision is likely wearing his "Victor Shade" disguise, but its also showing us how Wanda sees him, and also conveys his desire to be human. Wanda and Vision could be seen as representing true balance in the universe.

Cap, Nat, Wanda, Vizh, and Sam meet Rhodes at the Avengers compound. He joins them to help save Vision. Banner and Wong might arrive there as well.

Overarching themes are Destiny, Heroism, and Sacrifice. Look for those in each character's arc.

>Infinity War without Adam Warlock
Why? He's the reason they won at all. What are they going to do in the movies? Pull shit out of their ass?

Is it? Cause Ancient One vanishes when she dies.

Ah yes, the harbulary batteries.

Vision might do an Obi Wan and "die" so he can become more powerful; ie fight Thanos from within the gauntlet.

You're overplaying what Adam actually did. The only reason why they won is because Thanos is a fuckup who self sabotages himself. All Warlock did was pick up the glove

What abstract concept of power lets you controll a stone without blowing up anyway? Is the power required greater than the power a stone provides?

>Heimdell has been the keeper of the Soul Stone (or manifestation of a human form) the entire time. He is able to see everyone in the universe at once, he sees their souls
I can see this but I kind of hope it isn't. I'd rather it just be somewhere else that no one either thought about or knew about.

>Its buried deep under the soil of that funky garden in Black Panther, those plants allow you to contact the souls of your ancestors
I'd give this some credit if the color of the plant, vibranium mine and the after life thing was orange instead of purple.