Late 70s-early90s thread

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

Back when everything was fine.

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Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

They could've used better directors and seeing obvious cuts and lengthy non-audible sections was annoying.

I couldn't finish conan, but that might've just been because the story was just really bad too

Ian Wright
Ian Wright

Best ova

Owen Mitchell
Owen Mitchell

cutting out late 90s because not memes

Alexander Gutierrez
Alexander Gutierrez

Late 90s is where the anime loses it's quality from show to show

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

There is a dude translating the second season of Ace wo Nerae but he will only do that season, since he is translating from french and the 3rd season isn't translated in french.

Ryan Miller
Ryan Miller

WMT lolis are the best.

Robert Hill
Robert Hill

It's such a shame that Ace Wo Nerae gets so little love, it's one of Dezaki's best but it gets hardly any of the recognition Rose of Versailles gets.

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

It's because it's a sports anime.

Brayden Perry
Brayden Perry

true, until recently sports was a pretty niche genre outside of Japan, but something so influential (Top Wo Nerae, one of Dezaki's most important works, highly popular manga and anime series in Japan and other countries) gets barely any recognition in the english speaking world.

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

Good times.

Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

he hasn't got the bluray

Ryder Johnson
Ryder Johnson

I remember this
This isn't early 90s though

Grayson Young
Grayson Young

Back when everything was fine.
Why the fuck are you even here?
Jesus christ get the fuck out.

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

Link pls? nothing is up on nya

Leo Martinez
Leo Martinez

Search for "aim for the ace". Don't forget to say thanks to the guy. We have a decent amount of funssubers doing recent shows, but almost none is bothering for older series.

Ethan Moore
Ethan Moore

I finally finished watching the TV series. I miss police comedies.

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

they sure liked motorcycles and cars back in the day.

I enjoyed the bike ads and car ads with waifus.

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

I was pleasantly surprised with how decent the dub was for megazone

Xavier Brown
Xavier Brown

This was the golden age.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

Kurau was 2004. It was also shit. I waited 13-15 episodes for it to stop being shit and it never picked up.

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

I miss Noa

Angel Reyes
Angel Reyes

CUTE

Elijah Reyes
Elijah Reyes

Why was the animation so good back then?

Tyler Myers
Tyler Myers

More money and less series on TV.

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

Because most of the anons in these threads like to cherrypick.

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

The economy.

Luke Anderson
Luke Anderson

look at this Motoko.

She looked fine.

Very genki, very floofy.

Every other version of her looks weird and fucked up.

Why?

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

Posting this influence chart since you guys seems enjoying animation.

I also post this on sakuga thread credforums.com/thread/147278592/anime

Justin Brown
Justin Brown

seems a bit incomplete

Rumiko Takahashi was hugely influential to the point where you can pinpoint exactly when her style changes impacted other mangaka and animators, for example.

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

Well, Inoue was particularly speaking about animators so...

Even though somewhat I can agree that mangaka back then could influence the style of drawing on anime industry in 70s & 80s.

Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

Just about to start watching it

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

youre under arrest original version raws

I liked that art better.

Caleb James
Caleb James

Aren't there like a lot of anime that followed Rumiko's artstyle instead of their source material/an original one simply because of how popular and simplistic it is?
I mean, Sailor is like the biggest example in this regard isn't it.

Landon Johnson
Landon Johnson

Are there any people, who decided to buy a bike after Megazone 23?

Aiden Stewart
Aiden Stewart

obviously yes

but Rumiko's style is simply insanely attractive so it's a shame that current mangakas don't follow it nowadays.

If I could I would personally stomp on the face of every mangaka who doesn't try to imitate her style at least every once in a while.

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

the pilot ejects and her clothes rip off from her jet exploding, exposing her bra and panties for only milliseconds
Old anime was fucking great.

Parker Williams
Parker Williams

Because cherry picking.

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

Kernal Sanders was never the same after that.

Justin Ramirez
Justin Ramirez

Ah, I see.

Henry Gutierrez
Henry Gutierrez

Black Magic M-66 doesn't have that kind of fanservice but it's loaded with small details and movements that are inconsequential plot-wise but add a feeling of realism to the characters.

Hudson Jenkins
Hudson Jenkins

Cherry-picking is a myth.
The simple fact that the majority of 80s anime was influenced by Rumiko's artstyle is enough to make it more enjoyable to watch than the majority of current anime.

Because the artstyle is simply that good.

James Gray
James Gray

A girl falls in love with a boy.
Unable to confess, she is gifted with by a deus ex machina a trip down the rabbit hole.

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Why the fuck is the music so quiet in this show

Tyler Wood
Tyler Wood

I miss floofy bikini warrior anime

That recent one was mediocre as fuck. Genmu Senki Leda was wondrous and amazing.

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

It also makes everything look the fucking same.

Owen Young
Owen Young

Which isn't a problem when everything looks great as a result.

Beautiful uniformity is preferable to mediocre variety.

David Torres
David Torres

This is a nostalgiafaggot gone completely off the deep end.

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

Because the artstyle is simply that good.
I bet you're the kind of person who thinks Dirty Pair has good designs.

Isaiah Campbell
Isaiah Campbell

I prefer being able to choose between shit and shit
You're being blatantly hypocritical.

Anime is entertainment, it's not the way you live your life. Variety is of little value.

Christopher Adams
Christopher Adams

Obviously yeah.

Grayson Hughes
Grayson Hughes

Pictured: "good" artstyle

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

Finished Zambot 3 lately and I'm about to finish 999 this weekend, those last couple episodes of Zambot where some heavy shit. Especially the whole human bomb things.

You think this may have influenced Araki to give the Joestar's their famous star shaped birthmark? Seeing the marks on their back I couldn't help but think of Jojo

Brayden Miller
Brayden Miller

remove the quotation marks and you've got a perfect post

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

Are you implying they dont?

Jaxon Flores
Jaxon Flores

Reminder that Anno animated that.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

I would kill to see the SAC Motoko with that smile..

Jason Powell
Jason Powell

a.pomf.cat/fuoczz.webm

Anthony Wood
Anthony Wood

I would kill to erase SAC Motoko from existence. That smile would look out of place on her boring face.

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Bandaged head - the invisible man?
Robot girl from Metropolis
Who is that iron penis?

Kayden Ward
Kayden Ward

Takahashi style giant craniums got pretty fucking bad in the 80s, granted they had Miyazaki faces.
If you were less attracted to baby features because men want young girls you'd have better aesthetic sense.

John Long
John Long

Well it's not like current anime people look any less babyish than back then. On the contrary.

Jace Perez
Jace Perez

Having only watched the two movies and both SAC seasons, this Motoko looks more cheerful and the floofiness is extra cute, I really should read both manga volumes when I get home.

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

Unfortunately she's only cute and cheerful in a few sparse occasions. But still more than every other version combined.

I recommend reading Dominion, Orion and Appleseed in priority. Then GitS and Black Magic.

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

I like the way Shirow draws his women, they all look very delicious and /fit/. Perfect combination.

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

True, more like you can't vouch for the most popular or common style ever. That's why everything can't possibly look great.

Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

Yup, that's OP.

Jackson Hall
Jackson Hall

Is mid right that story with the ESP agency?

Adrian Brooks
Adrian Brooks

Why were little girl shows filled with panty shots back then?

Tyler Gutierrez
Tyler Gutierrez

Every fucking time I see a megazone screenshot I think I'm looking at ZZ gundam.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

There was no bluray with russian subs on rutracker

Connor Gray
Connor Gray

Which is the model of the crashed motorcycle?

John Perez
John Perez

Watched the whole thing. Don't bother, it stays shit.
Typical Bones train-wreck.

Gabriel Morales
Gabriel Morales

I gate shots like this. The trails always travel with the camera, and it looks shoddy.

Ian Martinez
Ian Martinez

Kasei Yakyoku is translated in Arabic or something and not in english. Hope somebody picks it up.

Jordan Jackson
Jordan Jackson

That's funny.

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

have you ever considered that maybe it's the camera that is following the trails
also that only happens at the very end, once in that entire scene

Isaac Parker
Isaac Parker

that's a serious opinion there, pal

Jordan Gomez
Jordan Gomez

tfw no dirty pair film BD

Jason Bailey
Jason Bailey

Is there a chart for this era?

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

OVA charts are a good place to start, since the market for them collapsed around 2000.
Plus you don't have to invest a lot of time into an OVA to test the waters.

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

I haven't seen to many animes from beyond my time, could someone recommend me one with action/slice of life something that I will remember or never forget?

Male Protag Pref

Hudson Myers
Hudson Myers

Megazone 23 and Bubblegum Crisis

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

It
It feels as if the pain of a thousand men was voiced at once, and then silenced.

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

Megazone 23
slice of life

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

I remember quite few 80 or 90's non H anime showing pussy and pubic hair. Its shame that we have to deal with steam and light beams now days.

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

It would be pretty slice-ish if not for the format change from TV series to OVA.

Isaac Robinson
Isaac Robinson

since the market for them collapsed around 2000.
What the fuck happened?

Jack Flores
Jack Flores

I definitely don't miss all the Toriyama hair ripoffs from the 90's.

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

Because the combo of economy and cherry picking, anime has gotten dramatically more consistent animation wise, the amount of quality in the 70's and 80's even for shows that provided some of the best examples of sakuga for the era have stuff thats just downright embarrassing. Macross is a big one where there are some genuinly jawdropping animation but its in the minority as some of the worst shit ever to go to TV somehow got on there like the embarrassing knife fight.

Lucas Wright
Lucas Wright

New animation looks like dogshit.
Post-processing bullshit mixed with shaky cam and amateur-tier motion.
Digital animation was a mistake.

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

Nene a cute! A CUTE!

As mediocre as it was, I want more Plastic Little. The OVA was beautiful.

Why was Megazone and Bubblegum Crisis production such a mess?

Rules of tv broadcast are diferent from direct to video OVAs

Angel Perez
Angel Perez

Part 2 is more like, slice of fucking insanity and murder-genocide and steel tentacles exploding people.

Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

Noa with black hair

Fuck whoever animated this. They did a smooth job but it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

Part 2 was the best simply because of Umetsu.

Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

Umetsu and Itano teaming up to give you exactly what you'd expect out of that combo. Dead faces, gratuitous sex, ultraviolence, exploding heads, micromissiles, and more crazy shit.

Seriously what is wrong with Itano. He really seems to love shoving in gratuitous violence and his fascist ideas into everything he touches. He's a great animator but good lord don't put him in charge of things.

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

youtube.com/watch?v=Z9UtUzjUA5Q
I think I saw there was gonna be a movie reboot. I have hopes it'll be good.

Cooper Lewis
Cooper Lewis

Its just a 15 minute long short for that Animator Expo I think. Nothing to really get our hope up but its nice to see someone still cares for Patlabor

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

What's wrong with violence? It's good solely for the sakuga.

Isaac Johnson
Isaac Johnson

I was never into the TV series but the OP is really top tier

Landon Martinez
Landon Martinez

We can't forget that sexy soundtrack by Kenji Kawai
youtube.com/watch?v=Wbc2U_4ip7s

Landon Thompson
Landon Thompson

why did the hottest girl have to be worst girl?

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

For every 1 animation nerd who even notices shit like this there's 10,000 teenagers binge-watching A1-style cut and paste hackjobs around the clock on crunchyroll. There's little incentive to fund anything else unless you're just trying to tap into a niche or impress people.

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

Poor Nene

Lincoln Smith
Lincoln Smith

Literally how do we save animation again?

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

By whining loudly about how everything was perfect and flawless thirty years ago.

Bonus points for claiming that 80s anime doesn't pander while watching cute-girl-centric OVAs around the clock.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

Well it's not like she went anywhere.
My understanding is that her design wasn't finalised when they began animating the OP and that's a hangover from it.

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

I don't really see it as being any different from when animation studios littered western TV with tacky limited-animation productions in the 60's and 70's. Did kids in the 70's think all the hanna barbera cartoons looked the same? Most of them probably just thought "that's what cartoons look like".

After that, animation shifted to promoting toyetic properties which inspired the 80's-90's aesthetic changes. Maybe that's analogous to anime studios designing scenes to be gif-worthy in the current era. I tend to think people's tastes adapt to whatever is sold to them and in this case it's "Haruhi + sword + off-model pseudo-3D shots" that gets clicks.

I think the inevitable shift in taste toward emphasizing immersion/VR will be what decides the aesthetics for the next generation.

Of course there will be things as cool as Akira and GITS and whatnot. But it won't be hand-drawn and 2D. At least not for a long time.

Justin Bennett
Justin Bennett

We wait.

Dominic Russell
Dominic Russell

Stunning in spandex

Oliver Parker
Oliver Parker

Everything may not have been perfect, but it was doubtlessly better.

And there was certainly some pandering (nobody claimed otherwise except falseflags) but
-it looked better
-it was motivated by more than money
-it wasn't aimed solely at moefags

which isn't the case anymore

Oliver Peterson
Oliver Peterson

who are these two floofy bunnies?

Brandon Roberts
Brandon Roberts

-it looked better
If it was a high budget OVA or movie? Sure, that comes with the budget. If it was a TV series? On average, hell no. I'd find some examples but I feel like it would end with both of us accusing each other of cherry picking and a lot of "it's okay to be incredibly generic when it's the eighties" if art styles get brought into it.
-it was motivated by more than money
I can't see a reason why the eighties would be magically more passion-driven than modern anime, take off those extra-strength rose-tinted glasses. It's not like working in the anime industry unless you're a producer or really successful is going to make you a fortune.
-it wasn't aimed solely at moefags
Yeah, no. Cute girls have always been the selling point and the focus of every second OVA, the only difference is the fact that due to different audiences and the state of the market, they were all mixed in with whatever genre instead of realising that you could just make the cute girls the only focus and not bother with some sci-fi or fantasy plot.

Owen Sanchez
Owen Sanchez

For fuck's sake look at how two thirds of this thread is generic waifufagging over 80s girls.

Ryan Powell
Ryan Powell

80s girls deserve it. Current girls don't, because they're unattractive and have less personality.

Parker Bennett
Parker Bennett

No you don't understand. It's okay to be generic when it looks good (regardless of the animation quality). And the 80s artstyles simply look better than those we have now. Not because they were popular in the 80s but because they are nicer to look at.

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

So it's okay for the 80s to only have two female faces to go around because it panders to you?

Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

Yeah, no. Cute girls have always been the selling point and the focus of every second OVA, the only difference is the fact that due to different audiences and the state of the market, they were all mixed in with whatever genre instead of realising that you could just make the cute girls the only focus and not bother with some sci-fi or fantasy plot.
Thank you for explaining what I said in greater detail, thereby confirming it.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Not because it panders to me, but because it looks better.
I happen to have good taste, but that's purely contingent.

Mason Evans
Mason Evans

Why diaper?

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Alternatively, the medium wasn't so creatively bankrupt back then they could do more with cute girls than a school setting with light humor.

Something like Gall Force is the perfect mix of pandering and actual plot without going overboard on either

Colton Williams
Colton Williams

The plot gets kinda retarded though, and green hair cunt is very annoying, so it's not perfect.

Carson Allen
Carson Allen

I don't think there's any less of that on average, it's just that so much more shit is made.

It's much easier to point at something and say that the ratio of good to bad shows is better when they only make like thirty or so shows that year rather than over a hundred.

Brayden Walker
Brayden Walker

then point me towards undeniably good combinations of cute girls and action scifi made in the past 10 years.

David Hall
David Hall

my taste is objectively correct

Josiah Collins
Josiah Collins

Does Redline count?

Julian White
Julian White

Not many cute girls in it, but it does.
Why are you greentexting something that's obviously true?
Are you hoping that greentext combined with le smugface will hypnotize people into disagreeing with me?
That seems silly.

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

Damn, they even got the pinky and ring finger movement right.
Usually you can't move both independently without some concentration.

John Thomas
John Thomas

Because they simply followed the natural laws of physics, they didn't care about fanservice or whatever.

James Evans
James Evans

Transition to digital, the recession of the 90s lingering all decade, and fear of early internet piracy of then nascent dvd killed ovas.

Alexander Flores
Alexander Flores

You guys lied to me. You said VHS anime sucks. I just got a Pro VCR with S-VIDEO output & a built in Video corrector & my god, the CLARITY.

I cannot believe I fed into the "VHS sucks" meme. What are some tapes I can buy up cheap? Trigun & Slayers look like DVDs on this thing.

Evan Anderson
Evan Anderson

Sounds like it's more like film. The quality is amazing as long as the media itself is in good condition.
I'll keep my BD rips, thank you.

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

It's comfy as fuck. I've been checking my local Goodwills & Salvation armies for anime, but I haven't found any besides the random DBZ or pokemon tape.

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

Been intending to give this a shot for a while now because I'm a sucker for bikini armor

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

Do it. It's inredible

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo

Things really didn't get bad until 09/10 anyway, I greatly prefer cel animation but there's plenty of good shows from the early 00s

Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

I wish I could own this physically with English subs

Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

I will fucking fight you, you underage faglord

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

I seem to remember a scene almost exactly like this in Devil Hunter Yohko

Jace Price
Jace Price

70's, 80's QUALITY is best

Ryan Myers
Ryan Myers

Deunan will always be his hottest.

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

Something something kyoani a cancer, moe the 666th coming of lucifer etc.

There, you will have a wave of unstable morons taking that overused bait and you will be able to share the screencap with your reddit friends.

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

NUH-UH!

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

Things were already heading to where we are now back then. I blame her for making me realize I actually could fap to chinese cartoons. And it's going downhill from there.

Zachary Williams
Zachary Williams

Yep. Always going to be the delicious slightly brown special forces tomboy.

Juan Perry
Juan Perry

You'll never be born in the 70s
Not getting into the anime industry while it was still not properly fleshed out
Be a part of the exploration of anime

be 2016
90% of anime produced is just standard run-of-the-mill
animators doesnt get paid shit
you earn more than the majority of animators if you work at a McDonalds
Most of animators are single since no time for anything but animation

Someone hold me

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

The nostalgia goggles seem to be cutting off the air to your brain leaving only room for over-romanticizing the past. Most shows in the 70s and 80s is run of the mill shit. You just are allowed to forget those and pick out only the best left over. And animators were paid like shit from the start.

Asher Morales
Asher Morales

I've seen better.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

Trigun & Slayers look like DVDs on this thing.

Maybe those shitty early DVDs that were just bad LaserDisc transfers...

Daniel Foster
Daniel Foster

why does Captain Tylor feel so old, despite being made in '93, I honestly would picked it to be mid-late 80s

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

Because that picture you linked is from the shitty DVD transfer. I think BDs came out, not sure if anyone ripped and put subs on them.

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

You will never spend your teenage years partying in a dreamworld with Lum. Why live.

Ryder Campbell
Ryder Campbell

Because there's more to life than dreams.

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

I know that feel bro. A shame women in anime can't be this hot nowadays.

Oliver Wood
Oliver Wood

You'll never be born in the 70s
I was.
Anime is basically dead to me now.
At least I still have manga...

Jaxon Gray
Jaxon Gray

Just get it with English subs, you'll get used to it even if English isn't your first language(it isn't mine either).

Juan Thompson
Juan Thompson

Were there any cute girls doing cute things anime yet?

Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

Once again

Go watch Zillion, plebs.

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

Retro anime > new anime

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

Digital animation was a mistake
Bang. Though early digital animation has its charm when you consider you still had good work being put out.

Ethan Lee
Ethan Lee

yeah I love old anime

my favorite is ginguiser

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

that was some sexy fighting

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

Does Cred Forums like Daicon?

Aiden Murphy
Aiden Murphy

Nice meme. Anime industry wasn't even 10% as big as it is now during the peak of bubble economy.

Blake Watson
Blake Watson

Because the artstyle is simply that good.

That doesn't mean people don't cherry-pick in these threads though.

Owen Johnson
Owen Johnson

No, today it's oversaturated televised garbage pandering to otakus in order to make any sort of sales.
Anime used to be experimental, now it's turned into a shell of its former self.

Jack White
Jack White

A bunch of my friends used to watch it on our stream on the weekends. Good stuff.

Anthony Allen
Anthony Allen

Is this from the movies? I'm enjoying the quirky animation so far (ep 50) and planning to watch only the Oshii part. Is the Deen part as well animated ?

Carter Hughes
Carter Hughes

Become votomu?

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

A place called Fat Stupid Garbage runs old anime on Saturdays kind of like a TV network. It's not the highest quality, but it's a commercial-free project and the IRC community is small.

Today is the 195th episode of Urusei Yatsura. It would be great to have some more people who love both well-known and obscure titles from the past.

Jaxon Rivera
Jaxon Rivera

I'm not talking about your art preference. I'm saying whatever that made 70/80's anime "good" to you was not about their bubble economy.

The scale of anime market was so shit before the start of 90's it doesn't make sense anime producers had more money back then.

Julian Cook
Julian Cook

You realize Cred Forums's been running an Urusei Yatsura stream for like a month now?

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

Sorry, I rarely ever visit here anymore. We've been watching Urusei Yatsura on FSG since 2015.

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

Shadow Skill.
youtube.com/watch?v=_BIttSzarxU

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

docs.google.com/document/d/1ZE3KsBWTXuMqIYFIbPdzXNH65xiauoexQkiAzyap__8/

Carter Peterson
Carter Peterson

What can you spot, Cred Forums?

a.pomf.cat/sffhai.webm

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

You should kill yourself.

nostalgia
Watching a 30 year old show and liking it isn't nostalgia you retards.

Yes.

Is the one at the end an Eva reference?

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

It wasn't though, you're cherrypicking.

OVAs and Movies in the 80's and 90's look a lot fucking better than most of the garbage we allow to be adapted in movies now, but TV anime in the 80's was especially bad most of the time, even from a lot of bigger franchises.

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

Yakuza romance drama directed by Osamu Dezaki

Why the hell is this not translated yet?

Christian James
Christian James

But that webm is from a TV anime.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Yes user, which is why I said you're cherrypicking.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

The character designs are very 90s (triangular tits, wide shoulders, narrow hips) as is, how should I put this... the general "hue" of the image. Visually, at least, I couldn't think of it being anything other than a product of the 90s.

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

I'm not that user, faggot

Ryder Martin
Ryder Martin

You're forgetting that at the time, there were fewer people in the industry, less anime was being produced and there was less economy. So while the market as a whole may have been considerably smaller, that doesn't say anything about how money was distributed through the industry.

Basically, what you're doing is like seeing that the GDP of Liechtenstein is smaller than Rwanda's and concluding that the people in Rwanda must be wealthier than the people in Liechtenstein.

Connor King
Connor King

and there was less economy
Less competition, dammit. How'd I make a mistake like that?

Nathaniel Ross
Nathaniel Ross

I don't care which user you are,
either way you need to learn how to fucking read.

Camden Cruz
Camden Cruz

There would be no more anime if digital animation didn't exist. I don't think the supplies for traditional animation are even made anymore.

Caleb Harris
Caleb Harris

I remember reading somewhere that one of the reasons why the whole industry suddenly switched to digital in 2001 was because the biggest supplier of cel sheets stopped mass-producing them. It's still possible (Sazae-san kept it up until 2009), just more expensive.

Grayson Nguyen
Grayson Nguyen

Dezaki is pretty popular,at least in Cred Forums, so this troubles me as well. The only thing we can do is keep bringing it up, I believe. Someone had posted a couple of webms illustrating the beautiful cinematography and design of the show in a previous post, which I was unable to find and post.

I hoped that rakugo might had a chance convincing people to give that genre a try, but things aren't looking good so far.

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

You need to learn how to not be a presumptuous idiot.

Christian Peterson
Christian Peterson

Sazae-san used cels until 2015 though. There's no excuse not to use cels.

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

yet another Patlabor continuity
Oh boy~

Ian Clark
Ian Clark

I already pointed out Sazae-san and likely the only reason it could do this is because it's the most popular anime in Japan and isn't that expensive to make in the first place.

You have to remember that the large majority of TV animation being made is contract work and so animation studios are competing with each other for contracts. If you can offer lower rates than the competition, you're more likely to get a contract. If cel sheets become more expensive to procure, you either have to raise your rates or lower the quality of your output and you can no longer compete with studios that use digital inking and painting.

Jacob Martinez
Jacob Martinez

Remember though you're essentially cherry picking. Things that have survived to be of note (even if this is super niche these days) are by definition exceptions to the rule. Works that have been deemed notable.

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

These threads give me life

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

Always a shame when these old cel anime don't have a bd.
one of the two versions of this on AB is literally a vhs rip
Welp doesn't look like I have much of a choice.

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

Correct answer:

Justin Russell
Justin Russell

its because the Nipponese have a weird boner for anything French

Michael Cox
Michael Cox

until 2015
does that mean if I become rich someday I can fund an anime on cel? some staff and equipment has to still be out there

Jordan Hughes
Jordan Hughes

Maybe Cred Forums could crowdfund one.

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

combining the British Gesture with the American Hand-sign
Neat.

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

anyone like dr slump?

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

A CUTE

Joshua Rivera
Joshua Rivera

I have a hard time watching this series. Seeing the transition to digital happen within a single work is a painful reminder of what happened.

Nolan Stewart
Nolan Stewart

It doesn't.

It's 90s as FUCK in every way I can think of.

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

a.pomf.cat/vskdng.webm

Brody White
Brody White

they have a weird boner for anything with animals in them though

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

biggest supplier of cel sheets

It was actually Fujifilm. Animators had to either switch to digital or pay a lot more to import blank cels.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

how the fuck do you even buy blank cels anymore

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

I'm not sure if you can at this point.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

cels will cease to exist in less than 20 years
just kill me senpai

David Collins
David Collins

In 10 years it probably won't be possible to buy motion picture film for any price. Even now the Hollywood studios are basically subsidizing Kodak's production.

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

Are there subs for the first AnJ compilation movie?

Caleb Martin
Caleb Martin

Technology isn't readily available anymore
And viewers don't have the integrity to chose buying nothing over buying garbage

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

Did Project Eden get a BD yet?
Can't remember.

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore

Anyone have any Akira webms?

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

Shit I`ve seen the film so many times everything is kind of ingrained in my brain.

Jacob Brown
Jacob Brown

Ah yes, Back when Fukuda was single, didn't suck and had 4-5 other people to work with on each series and bounce his ideas off of.

Kayden Foster
Kayden Foster

shitting where you eat
For shame Fukuda.

Jason White
Jason White


Late 90s is where the anime loses it's quality from show to show
Neon Genesis Evangelion, Serial Experiments Lain, Cowboy Bebop, Berserk '97, ect...

Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

Anyone like Green Lagend Ran?

Jason Carter
Jason Carter

What could have been

youtube.com/watch?v=kt3qZYUPi2Y
youtube.com/watch?v=nqClO76Sk3U

Caleb Anderson
Caleb Anderson

i remember it having a nice boob slip in it

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

It's a shame everyone tells me not to watch this. Because the animation is just so beautiful.

Juan Ortiz
Juan Ortiz

His love for his waifu, even as cancer ate at her health, was admirable. Being blind to how shitty her writing was, using his connections to get his wife gigs in the indusrty and basically self-inserting as Jesus Yamamoto (With Morosawa as Laucus) in SEED was not IMO.

Michael Flores
Michael Flores

Why was animation so good?
Because you cherrypick.
No, it's because of the artstyle!
What?

Levi Lewis
Levi Lewis

These threads piss me off, because every time maybe half of the thread is actually people talking about old anime, and the other half is people having the same arguments about new anime and cel vs digital that have already been had for the pest ten million days in a row.

Gabriel Davis
Gabriel Davis

10 million days
27,397 years
user.

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

Cels are objectively superior though.

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

I agree (on average, of course). However, does that really need to come up almost every single time an anime made on cels is being discussed? Fuck no, it's just boring. If I wanted to argue the same thing over and over again I'd be in an NGE thread, or a Shaft vs. KyoAni thread, or one of the generals.

Evan Moore
Evan Moore

I don't know they worked together fine before they were married, just feels like he lost his ability to be objective with her as time went on.

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

Sophie is an underrated retro beauty.

You'll never explore post-apocalyptic America with her

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

That might be interesting-
written by the vampire hunter d guy
And dropped.

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

At least watch it for Sophie

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

D is a masterpiece though.

Joshua Peterson
Joshua Peterson

Bloodlust, sure. But the original is just a cheap, crappy advertisement for the novel which was much better.
Incidentally, Bloodlust was much better than the D novel that it was based on.

Kevin King
Kevin King

Isn't there supposed to be a new VHD anime?

Josiah Mitchell
Josiah Mitchell

If you were born in the 80s you can watch any cel show, pick out almost anything, even something with bad animation, and watch it for the art.

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

The original was neat, and A wind named Amnesia IS BASED ON THE BOOK WRITTEN BY THE GUY WHO MADE THE NOVELS

HIDEYUKI KIKUCHI

Jayden Brooks
Jayden Brooks

nene

Luke Nguyen
Luke Nguyen

Not in English, the Spanish subs are decent though if you speak that.

Don't watch it either way, it shouldn't come as a surprise, but a 53 episode length condensed into a 2 1/2 hour long movie by a different director didn't exactly make for the greatest movie. It's not even done in a way that feels cohesive on its own. Like in one scene we're seeing Danpei protect Joe from getting beat up by. Yakuza thugs then it instantly cuts to Joe beating the shit out of police officers thus making him a wanted man. And the entire film is like this, constantly transitioning from event to event without the proper buildup for the emotional payoff. Like Joe seriously gets arrested within the first 20 minutes of the damn thing, but they expect us to care about it for some strange reason. The entire series should have really been 3 separate movies if it wanted to stand on its own.
And even some of the best scenes feels neutered by the new director. Like the climax to Rikiishi and Joe's final bout should have been absolutely exciting, even without the proper context, but Yoichiro Fukuda just doesn't do it justice.

It only really works as a film if you're just using for a refresher for what happened in the first one had you not seen the TV series in 10 years, which was kind of its purpose given its release in 1980 right before Ashita no Joe 2 started.
But beyond that, I think it's best if it remains unsubtitled in English. American Credfags will watch it so that they can jump to Ashita no Joe 2 without actually having seen Ashita no Joe proper, and I don't want to have idiots running around here talking about how Youko Shiriaki is a shitty character who exists solely as a roadblock for Joe just because they didn't get the meat of her characterization in the first series.

The only real redeeming aspect of the movie is the fact that it has a fucking godlike OST.
youtube.com/watch?v=nHd8RlfSfc4

Levi Russell
Levi Russell

A Wind Named Amnesia was a terrible anime.

Anthony Barnes
Anthony Barnes

Sperging out with caps lock only makes you look bad and not want to deal with your argument.
Either way, I'm not the other guy and I've seen Wind Named Amnesia and I can say that it, too, was a bad movie.

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

tfw Dr. Slump anime will never get full english subs

Isaac Lopez
Isaac Lopez

Enjoy, though I'm sure you won't. Isn't the Internet wonderful?

Jace Harris
Jace Harris

Not really. Digital has a higher potential than what cels can produce. However, digital falls into the "easy to learn, hard to master" category in comparison to older animation techniques.

If the animators in question have full usage of the tools, capabilities, and conveniences that digital brings, they would give any cel based animation a good run for their money. However, again it's just uncommon and rare.

Jace Perry
Jace Perry

I thought the chart was only following Inoue's influence and movement.

Massively influential things missing makes sense in that context.

Madhouse sure had a good run though. Shame it's over and everyone's gone.

Easton Nelson
Easton Nelson

It just seems that basic fundamentals of animation aren't taught anymore.
Bodies aren't given weight when they move. There's no discernible depth to designs.
Sometimes you'll find characters that don't look like they're part of their scene. Just floating above it.
Light and shadow are treated as afterthoughts, and even then, often generated by algorithm instead of by hand.

Yes, there are more tools available by way of digital than ever before, but more shortcuts, too, that lead to bad habits that many of these younger animators never break.
It still takes a good director to steer their team to a good product and all the good directors are either too old, or just stopped giving a fuck.

Jeremiah Jenkins
Jeremiah Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=HPPeylyeM-k

Kayden Gonzalez
Kayden Gonzalez

Anime died when the openings stopped having karaoke subtitles.

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

Are those two Dirty Pair OVA side stories worth checking out?
I liked the show and its sequel for what it was but didn't really care for the film at all.

Wyatt Mitchell
Wyatt Mitchell

Luluco is so cute. I wish she was real and 20 years old, so that I could marry her and produce progeny from our union

Justin Long
Justin Long

Beware the dubdub bird

Adam Reed
Adam Reed

What does young Dr Wily have against that little blonde girl?

Nolan Nguyen
Nolan Nguyen

Anyone upcoming BD releases besides G Gundam? Red Baron was announced not too long ago, it'll probably never be subbed though

William Cook
William Cook

Except that the large majority of animators today still draw each frame on paper, so no more shortcuts are available to them than there ever were. In fact, most of the issues you mentioned are compositing issues, not animation issues. And of course, this can go wrong - this is true for any tool and has always been the case. For example, the infamous cut in Space Battleship Yamato where the Wave Motion Gun was fired and the Yamato somehow ends up on top of the beam.

As for the issues you mentioned that do pertain the actual animation... I recommend you watch more older shows. You know, I'm all for celebrating anime from previous eras, but people lamenting the loss of halcyon days that never were is getting kind of obnoxious.

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

you're both ignoring the problem.

The problem is that the style of most current shows is ugly, whereas the style of most old shows is beautiful.

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

Lol no

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

calling this shit good artstyle

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