Sakuga Thread / 作画を語るスレ

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

Let's start this with more casual discussion :
what are you watching right now ?
favorite sequences/animation from the show you're watching right now ?
what are you going to watch in next seasons ? (reasons, expectation)

Also, feel free if you want to continue the discussion from yesterday credforums.com/thread/147202948/anime

News:
Flip Flappers advanced screening (episode 1-4), on September 22nd (Thursday).

Guide:
Not really needed, but you can use this if you are completely new to this :
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All urls found in this thread:

credforums.com/thread/147202948/anime
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youtube.com/watch?v=R__JDGLqGfY&feature=youtu.be
yurionice.com/news/detail.php?id=1040391
youtube.com/watch?v=QWloHuU9ajs
myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1548668
youtube.com/watch?v=gZSNVUDA5v0
flat2d.com/easytoon/Downloading.aspx
twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/776512670446911489
youtube.com/watch?v=t8S-Sx-mJXk
twitter.com/9iurouS1muM1FMn
youtube.com/watch?v=FHxZpk_hvJA
sakuga.yshi.org/post
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David Nelson
David Nelson

Guide:
backlink to last thread
No, stop that.
Generals are cancer.

Carter Evans
Carter Evans

Just keep your shit in IRC.

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

mob psycho is the best animated show since space dandy
flip flappers might top it
Nice.

Blake Jackson
Blake Jackson

www.dailymotion.com/video/x4tfcom

Mitsuru Chiba

Justin James
Justin James

www.youtu.be/R__JDGLqGfY

Tetsuya Takeuchi on this

Anthony Peterson
Anthony Peterson

anyone going to Scotland to see Koe no Katachi ?

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

I wish.

Aaron Myers
Aaron Myers

OP good job, I like how you included the guide for everyone.

nice fire sfx animation

youtube.com/watch?v=R__JDGLqGfY&feature=youtu.be
Might be interesting but not feeling the Shingo adachi like character designs.

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

yurionice.com/news/detail.php?id=1040391

Yuri!!! On Ice advanced screening, September 25th.

Colton Long
Colton Long

anyone here that actually draw animation ? what kind of equipment did you use ? I'm interested especially in digital animation.

John Smith
John Smith

Should I use advanced software like Flash / TV Paint or flipbook is enough for complete beginner with zero experience like me ?

youtube.com/watch?v=QWloHuU9ajs

That one looks hella good.

Joseph Jones
Joseph Jones

we /skgg/ now lads

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

or should I learn to draw anatomy first just like what Richard Williams said in his book ?

Carter Phillips
Carter Phillips

myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1548668

kek

William Nelson
William Nelson

Well, can't go wrong with the fundamentals.

Blake Martinez
Blake Martinez

Anime in 3d in Cinema 4D and then filter it to 2D.

youtube.com/watch?v=gZSNVUDA5v0

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

Probably will only look good in the first and last episodes.

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

The cancer has metastasized.

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

I use Easytoon and Tvpaint.

flat2d.com/easytoon/Downloading.aspx

Small but simple and works well

Chase Howard
Chase Howard

The effects animation in the PV could be Chiba's own work. It looks a lot like his/her work in the Maken-ki 2 finale.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

awww that's painful to read.

Do both, learn fundamentals when practicing your sketches and just draw stick figures or equivalent when practicing motion.

Cameron Phillips
Cameron Phillips

Why is sakuga community so shitty

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

Because sakuga was a mistake.

Daniel White
Daniel White

ISO was a mistake

Austin Parker
Austin Parker

anyone have useful chart from old archive like this ?

Oliver Sanders
Oliver Sanders

more Berserk

ayy, kViN on suicide watch

Brandon Anderson
Brandon Anderson

What is it? The best animation of their era?

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

Influence chart

Elijah Green
Elijah Green

Flash is shit (unusable brush tool)

TV Paint is okay (crack it)

Evan Davis
Evan Davis

what kind of pen tablet recommended ? are the cheap ones okay ?

James Morris
James Morris

I have a common Wacom Bamboo (~100$ or less), but there's a nice guide on /ic/ about that (never tried the cheap ones they recommend though, but it seems okay through their testimonies).

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

It's okay, he's irrelevant now.

Joseph Price
Joseph Price

okay, thanks for the advice.

Jayden Phillips
Jayden Phillips

Btw I read your post a bit fast but flipbook is okay to get a feel for it I guess, you can wait to buy the tablet

I thought you were talking about a real flipbook (which would be fine too but a bit limited)

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

Now I thought you were talking about flipnote so I still didn't got it.

Flipbook isn't quite practical, better crack TVpaint if you're gonna buy a tablet

If you have a 3DS try flipnote first, if you have a (not pen) tablet, like ipad, see if there's an animation app or something and try to make a diy stylus

Logan Brown
Logan Brown

twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/776512670446911489

We mainstream now

Jackson Martin
Jackson Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=t8S-Sx-mJXk

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Disney's best 2D animators never fail to impress. Why don't Japanese animation studios use those slanted desks? Looks a lot more ergonomic than the normal ones that force animators to hunch over.

Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

twitter.com/9iurouS1muM1FMn

why this guy mostly only worked on douga ? is it because people find him will be difficult if he's promoted to genga ? (because he seems to be huge Ohira fanboy?).

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

やはり時代はアイドルアニメーターか…

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

wacom are kind of standard though if you're on the cheap get Huion tablet.

I've got CTH-480 from wacom and the H610Pro from Huion both decent in my eyes and can do the job for digital animation else paper and pencils "2B".

Daniel Roberts
Daniel Roberts

He's probably just new, give him time. If fellow Ohira follower Toya Oshima can do regular KA, I don't see why this guy can't.

Jason Martin
Jason Martin

Wouldn't H, 2H, etc be better for the clean lines needed in animation?

Also a light table or something, at least, would be useful.

Sebastian Lopez
Sebastian Lopez

But I think he's been too long for doing that.
Even I can't feel a thing from his recent output on Mob. It feels like he wants to be Ohira MK.II but people restrain him because it could be difficult to handle (in many ways).

Asher Howard
Asher Howard

Not really H or 2H, from experience with a cheap china LED lightbox. You would like to have darker pencil shades so you can see the lineart from the previous layer with it maxing out around 3-4 layers.

One thing important for clean lineart is that your pencil is sharp and of a good quality.The rest is your own drawing prowess.

I recommend 2B Mitsubishi Uni/Hi-uni else get a 2B Staedtler Mars lumograph

Gavin Parker
Gavin Parker

I can't imagine a production like Mob restricting the creative output of its animators. Maybe he's not fast enough to animate in Ohira style on a TV schedule? Anyway, it's great to see another Ohira follower. It's a very interesting approach to animation.

Isaiah Roberts
Isaiah Roberts

Yeah you might be right.

Do you know if "pegs" to attach the sheets are necessary on a DIY situation or you can replace them with something else?

Tyler Parker
Tyler Parker

Ummm for me I just leave it as it is, though I guess you could staple it near the top to make it like a pseudo-peg/clamp.

I do more detail drafting/linework on paper but for most of animation practice, I try to use tablet since it's quicker for setting up everything and checking the motion of the cut after drawn. I'm still kind of new at it.

Nicholas Jones
Nicholas Jones

This is one legit situation where you can call out forced animation.

John Jackson
John Jackson

You're too used to limited animation.

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

The first two pokemon generation shorts are out but no staff credits yet.

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

It's beyond a question of full/limited, animation can be full without being that exaggerated and goofy. See Le Roi et l'Oiseau and early Toei douga).

Sebastian Butler
Sebastian Butler

Friendly reminder that Kouno-chan is no longer pure and you're a cuck

Brody Lee
Brody Lee

youtube.com/watch?v=FHxZpk_hvJA

Episode 1 is well animated.

Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

the shit that killed him was the slide show known as dennou coil
If anything sakuga Iso wasn't the mistake, director Iso was.

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

Sakuga thread is behind the animators who are good at mechanical things.

Hudson Reyes
Hudson Reyes

Disney animation isn't often overly exaggerated though. Looney Tunes fits that category more.

Ayden Phillips
Ayden Phillips

On what basis are you hyping up flip floppers ? Is it a remake of Hakenden directed by Nakamura with Yuasa, Iso, Okiura, Ohira and Utsunomiya given each an episode ?

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

It's Kiyotaka Oshiyama's series director debut and Takashi Kojima is the main animator. There are rumours about Iso being involved with the project as well.

Ethan Moore
Ethan Moore

slide show
Dennou Coil
Surely you jest.

Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

they only care about animation

Jeremiah Sanchez
Jeremiah Sanchez

山田尚子 is cute! CUTE! (*^_^*)

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

That's not Yamada.

Nathan Roberts
Nathan Roberts

this is yamada ya dweeb.

Eli Long
Eli Long

BASED ADENOID

Dominic Long
Dominic Long

Is this the general circlejerk?

William Long
William Long

Yes, welcome. Feel free to namedrop your favorite animators.

Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

who /YamadaClub/ here?

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

Shinkai>Yamada

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

omg i can fap to this adenoid bitch all day.

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

So anything that's not posted here sakuga.yshi.org/post
isn't well animated?

Adrian Hernandez
Adrian Hernandez

BASED YAMADA

Shinkai is OVERRATED as fuck.
his jap face makes me puke, creepier than the guy from "The 40 Year Old Virgin".
i wish he would retire right now.

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

新兄も絶賛
imgur.com/FAWd8BJ.jpg

東大卒も絶賛
大久保清朗 Kiyoaki Okubo ‏@kiyoakiokubo · 8月25日
山田尚子『聲の形』。素晴らしすぎて大今良時の原作を一気読みしてしまった。
距離の取り方が分からない幼年期の残酷さ、取り方を覚えようとする青春期の過酷さ。
それを繊細にすくい上げる。アニメファンを越えて多くの人に見てほしい映画。

ぱぴぱぴ体操
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みんなでパピコを応援しよう
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Jason Smith
Jason Smith

translate this into english. help me sakuga-user.

Daniel Lewis
Daniel Lewis

no webms
Nice "image board" you got here.

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

ignore it
this post is yamafags from 2ch's sakga thread

mint.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1474044611/
mint.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1474027649/

Blake Lewis
Blake Lewis

Probably not but it will look good nonetheless. When Mob is finished it will have like 120 entries on booru. Even if not all of them are that amazing its still a fucking impressive number. Would be cool if Flipfloppers can come close to it.

Nathaniel Anderson
Nathaniel Anderson

I am so fucking upset about dinsey stopping 2d animation, the best of disney or american animation as a whole from decades ago is still better than any stuff japanese people can put out. Just look at the fluidity of the Fleisher Superman adaptation.

Brody Nelson
Brody Nelson

That doesnt mean anything if all these animators named will only be doing a few cuts. They are probably running out of steam by episode 4 and then come back every now and then with nice sakuga.

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

well maybe this is the wrong thread and wrong board for (You).
/co/

David Cox
David Cox

Westerners dont do it how they used to, only japanese sakuga can satisfy my hunger for 2d animation. I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

What do you guys think about the French Tv series Wakfu. How did they acheive this high level of animation in a 50episode long series. Was it done with cgi or some tweening software. It even tops most anime in recent years. Sadly the direction, choreo and character designs suck, cant really feel the impact of the hits.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

I saw like an episode, the tweening of it threw me off a bit. It's smooth yet static, feels like characters don't have any dimensionality/free degree of motion in their world.

Feels like watch a paper mario anime in my opinion.

Josiah Rodriguez
Josiah Rodriguez

fuck off to your kyoanus circlejerk thread

Adrian Brown
Adrian Brown

I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise.
The problem is even if America doesn't do traditional animation anymore the countries that still do have the same habits that drive me up a wall with anime. Tons of clearly cgi shit clashing with the hand drawn visuals.

The west used to be very careful and very deliberate to sneak cgi into traditionally animated features (and hollywood very very deliberate about cgi combined with traditional vfx). These days fuck it who cares if it clearly looks pooped out of a pc.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

that moses movie
Yea its a really sad state in the world of animation for 2d fans, i wonder what i would do if Japan stopped producing 2d anime and went completely CGI. A part of me would probably die with it.

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

/co/

Henry Jones
Henry Jones

Why? The point of the post was conflating the issues facing both Japanese and Western animation as largely the same (with the exception of America where it's actually just dead).

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