Macross Delta (マクロスΔ)

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

The priestess "The Star Singer" that's been passed down from the ancient protoculture has awakened, and there is imminent danger that the whole galaxy will be conquered by Windermere. If Windermere reaches the star temple that appeared on Ragna it is said that all of mankind will be swallowed by a huge living network through the song of the stars.

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Jackson Myers
Jackson Myers

Bow to the queen of galaxy!

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

reuse Mikumo
Kay, I will put my hype for this episode down for a bit.

Jordan Ramirez
Jordan Ramirez

How mad will Bogue be when Roid tells him a filthy Walkure sings better than Heinz, the purest of Windermereans?

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

One can only imagine. He'd probably burn his runes out.

Xavier Scott
Xavier Scott

When are we going to have something like this?

Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

Kawamori doesn't want to do the same thing lol

Easton Watson
Easton Watson

Roid going on about how superior the star singer is
runeaids salt gradually covers Bogue

Easton Phillips
Easton Phillips

He will then decide to capture a WALKURE, too.
Most likely that green hair Meltran.

Hudson Thomas
Hudson Thomas

What was the point of showing us he has a crush on her anyways? It can't possibly go anywhere in the last two episodes.

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

Ship teasing.

Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

Anyone happen to know the release date of the second walkure album?

Adam Young
Adam Young

die early because of skin cancer
star singer looks more like human (no runes) and not like windemerians
even the star temple is located on a different planet - Ragna
AHAHAHA, protoculture "heirs". Even fishniggers has more rights for that claim.

Hudson Nelson
Hudson Nelson

That subplot and how nothing came out of it reminded me of GC.

Inb4 Hermann pushes Bogue into an elevator in the last episode and tells him he's a good guy deep down before being gunned down

Samuel Nguyen
Samuel Nguyen

the tone or the vibe or whatever you call it of this series is such a fucking mess. It's genki nonesense intermixed with random bursts of ultraviolence that has no consequences.

And i wish they would just stop already with the retarded reaction shots of whats her elf face every time genki girl and mary sue talk to eachother.

Nathan Johnson
Nathan Johnson

mary sue

Oliver Hall
Oliver Hall

subplot
It was literally 2 very short scenes. They never interacted and they don't even know each other names. It was for comedy purpose and nothing else.

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

So what do you guys think? Will Freyja simply have her flakes reversed or will her lifespan be extended so she can have that long life with HayaHaya?

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Don't worry f/a/ggot, Hoina stop that bitch.

Christopher Wilson
Christopher Wilson

I keep mentioning it, but that shiwa shiwa obaachan and ojiichan tease in 17 sealed the deal. Long life end for HayaFre. Also I'm not in the habit of seeing children die even if they aren't my precious daughteru, so it's not just Freyja getting saved.

Easton Long
Easton Long

Chrono Crusade end.

Logan Foster
Logan Foster

Nothing

She will lose and also die in 15 years or less

Justin Martinez
Justin Martinez

I don't know if they will fix the lifespan but I want beach sex scene.

Luke Jackson
Luke Jackson

I'm so sad that doujin wasn't scanned

William Cook
William Cook

The purpose of that scene is to show he can change. The most neonazi of the knights can change his opinion because he was exposed to the culture. The fact that his dick was doing the thinking doesnt discount the argument, especially in an anime that promotes crossbreeding between humans who might or might not have descended from clones and an alien race best known for galactic genocide over a period of countless millennia.

In other words, it's never too late for him to change.

John Harris
John Harris

That Arad
Seriously, this fucking guy. I thought I'd like him since in F I loved Ozma, but the more I think about how in 7 years he seems to have done nothing to find out the truth about the bombing, the more he gets on my nerves. If Wright was his captain and he doubts so much that he dropped the bomb why hasn't he investigated anything?

Jose King
Jose King

He should have plenty of time to change in prison when the war is over.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

I also that this may tie up with Makina being hurt, like maybe Bogue sees how it has affected Reina and he sympathizes with her easier because he knows the pain of losing someone. It doesn't even need to be romantic. They could also use Chuck for that, though. I ultimately think there's understanding coming and Knights learning that their own sorrow doesn't justify causing other people sorrow too (and Delta and Walkure realizing they have to think outside the box and stop believing everything big organizations like NUNS claim).

Robert Davis
Robert Davis

i want to fuck makina as she bleeds out, then make her cum as she fades away

Eli Flores
Eli Flores

I WANT TO MAKE MIKUMO INTO A MOTHER

Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

hayate x mikumo otp

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

Report this pedophile.

Connor Howard
Connor Howard

Sometimes I forget that Reina is supposed to be part Zentradi.
Did she get all the short sticks of Zent genes?
tiny
short
probably a weakass nerd
no fighting instinct whatsoever
probably can't macronize
doesn't even have a gimmick like prehensile hair like Ranka ha
She only got a delinquent personality and green hair and elf ears.

Connor Flores
Connor Flores

She inherited desirable traits to make up for it.

shy and keeps to herself, probably an animal in bed (which is why deadtits keeps her at boobs length)
fun size
willing to try fun and dangerous things
gives the biggest smiles and surprised expressions, which means shes very emotive and goes crazy once she gets porked

Bogue will hook up with her to conquer her, but she will end up conquering him.

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

That's what happens when a proud meltrandi warrior decides to settle down with a filthy weak human man.

Charles Brooks
Charles Brooks

roid pls

Austin Bennett
Austin Bennett

FAITHFUL. ENLIGHTENED. AMBITIOUS. BRETHREN.

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

I detect heresy in this sector and have arrived to investigate.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

Bogue will hook up with her to conquer her,
God please no, Reina doesn't deserve such shitty fate, it's better for her to also get shoot and die together with titsgirl than ending with Shitgue.

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

Bogue will hook up with her to conquer her,
I'm glad we all agree on that.

Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

But Reina is just a shitty cardboat cutout yuribait, she should be grateful that an actual character gives a shit about her.

Like seriously, Delta has lot of shitty one dimensional characters, but Reina and the twins are bottom of the barrel tier.

Benjamin Thomas
Benjamin Thomas

I think I would have liked it if Delta was told from Mirage's perspective. It would be the story of how a pilot lost at love because destiny was just not on her side, like how it wasn't on Hikaru's side either. Plus she wouldn't be such a who.

Levi Price
Levi Price

a tragic story of a girl who was pressured into becoming a pilot to live up to the pride of her family name, only to fail spectacularly time and time again
no victory or triumph is good enough for other people
people constantly expect maturity and level headedness from an otherwise lonely person with no notable personal life to speak of
desperately cling to a young boy because he was the only one to ever bother starting a conversation, despite how it was only purely out of spite and frustrations in the beginning

Lets call it Macross Suffering.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

said boy only sees her as a buddy and even makes her go shopping with him to buy a present for the girl he likes
time and time again she has to see the boy she likes fall harder and harder for another girl

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

Maybe in the end, she finds another. Preferably a young zent who willing micronizes himself to spend time with her after the war ends. Lots of suffering but happy ending.

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

Song of the stars will give her infinite life.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

Imagine being the twins' VA.

first time playing a named character and not background Student A
in Macross, a huge anime franchise
characters appear on the first posters
characters have tons of merchandise
And then you find out that your characters are glorified background characters with no lines, no story, no personality and completely irrelevant.

Samuel Powell
Samuel Powell

Come on, if Kawamori really wants to try something new, he should make a series with its lead protagonist a female pilot.

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

It doesn't matter what he wants. The sponsors threatened him at knife point to make Delta a triangle romance drama with 2 cours. He literally has to go overseas to make what he wants.

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

Have two guys compete over her. Or maybe have her and some other girl compete over a guy. As long as there's no yurishit.

Owen Johnson
Owen Johnson

Punished Mirage

I'd still watch it

Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

It'll be Bounen no Xam'd all over again.

Freyja will take Mikumo's place as the star singer
She'll be trapped in Protoculture ruins singing a song for the galaxy for all eternity
Hayate vows to live a life that suits her song and travels the galaxy telling the tale of Freyja, galactic songstress
Mirage only shows up years later in an epilogue

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON

Hunter King
Hunter King

Before Delta's first PV came out I was pretty sure we'd have a m/f/m triangle and I was really disappointed when that was not the case. I like the current trio's triangular relationship but I'm not interested in any romance with Hayate and either girl.

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

Kawamori harassed by sponsors
End up producing Delta which is an Idol shit anime
Proves sponsors have shit taste.

Angel Green
Angel Green

It'll be Bounen no Xam'd all over again.

NO
NO
FUCK THAT SHIT NO
I AM STILL ANGRY OVER NAKIAMI
SHE DESERVED BETTER THAN THAT

No, the best solution would be to toss the shota boy in the damn thing nobody really gives a shit about him.

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

It was more idol show than macross show in cour 1. And that kind of worked, provided you were attached to Freyja's relentless campaign to spread Gori Gori across the star system and you didn't give a shit about Messer's completely bullshit death.

Jaxon White
Jaxon White

I'll find you and kill you. Heinz and Hoina are precious, Mikumo is an abomination and a plot device, let her do her job and die for the greater cause.

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

Personally, I think Freyja is totally getting her lifespan fixed. IMO it was a pretty high possibility ever since we learned that Windies only live 30 years.

And then the writers went ahead and made Freyja start "to die" much earlier than expected. Add to that the fact that she's been suffering non-stop for 7 episodes straight...

A happy ending for her is on its way.

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

Exactly one guy gives a shit about Heinz in the entire galaxy. Not even his father gave a shit. And that says something, considering how Heinz is the only heir.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

3 years old

Daniel Edwards
Daniel Edwards

Mirage is a tragic character
when Mikumo exists, the lonely artificial being who's been used for her abilities, began to soften around her teamworkers but suddenly got kidnapped by the enemy and forced to face her friends.
when freyja exists, the girl from the enemy side who loved singing and escaped her planet to realize her dream, found that her beloved songs are hurting her most precious person and are killing her as well.
when fucking kaname exists, the hard working girl with no super supernatural ability who got overshadowed by two newbies, had someone she saved way back who's always been there for her and she didn't know of his feelings of grattitude until he died.

Ryan King
Ryan King

But user, shes been dying for a long time now. Its the price you pay for power.

Brody King
Brody King

Rewatch episode 15, everyone loves him. He's Windermere's idol.

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

Seto knows that feel

Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

Fuck Hayate for ruining this perfect face.

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

Lets face it user, Mikumo had a pretty damn good couple of years. She pretty much hijacked Walkure from the get go, took all of Walkure's fame, and was the starlet of the star cluster. It wasn't until recently when she had a really bad two weeks.

Ethan Ross
Ethan Ross

He killed Messer, he asked for it.

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

They love his song. That one song. His only single. Thats like Kim Jung Un getting nothing but love for having the best haircut because criticizing it is banned.

And then Walkure put out that phone app and all the guys were secretly beating their sticks off to it. Once the war is over, Heinz's popularity is gone and j-pop will be the new gospel of Windemere.

Christopher Cooper
Christopher Cooper

Mikumo never cared about fame or wealth, singing was the only thing she knew.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

She will get unlimited lifespan power to keep spread the Truth of Gori Gori accross the Galaxy.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

And she sang a lot, she was great at it, and she was completely in bliss. Also, she really enjoyed being a mentor type.

Nathaniel Powell
Nathaniel Powell

Characters with actual sad stories are Freyja, Kaname and Mikumo.

Mirage isn't sad or unfortunate, she's just really pathetic.

Michael Lee
Michael Lee

Mirage is sad and unfortunate exactly because she doesn't have a story. She has a job because of her family name, and thats it. She tries to do her best, but its never enough. The laws of shounen heroes don't apply to her. The best thing she can do now is die heroically to save the galaxy for the man who will never love her back.

Andrew James
Andrew James

Mirage is a background character who somehow managed to become friends with the MC.

Evan Russell
Evan Russell

It's not the sponsor's fault. Kawamori and his writers are the ones at fault.

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

I would've preferred Nakiami be the love interest, but then we wouldn't have gotten Haru who was actually pretty good after the mid-point of the series.

But didn't what Nakiami did go completely against everything she was telling the MC about in the rest of the series, about living for yourself and such?

Ayden Price
Ayden Price

Mikumo never "lived" in these three years, she only existed. She isn't going to die now that she has had a taste of lie.

Christian Stewart
Christian Stewart

This would make a great triangle. I already can see Keith wins Mikumobowl.

Elijah Diaz
Elijah Diaz

She made the decision herself. Thats whats important. Thats why her sacrifice has meaning.

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

I hate it.
Seriously fuck that faggot

Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson

Mirage was not supposed to have any sad/tragic backstory that would follow her throughout the story. Her only problems are literally lack of self confidence and insecurity towards piloting. That's enough basis to give her an episode or two as spotlight and deal with them but it never happened, for better or worse. As a person, piloting aside, she is fine. Your usual cool,background character that keeps most things to themselves (thoughts,feelings). She is nice and all, but that's it.

James Morgan
James Morgan

Which faggot?

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

I could get behind this triangle.

Carter Allen
Carter Allen

Would be better triangle than what we got.

Mikumo deserves a prince like Keith.

Noah Baker
Noah Baker

You fucking pedo. She deserves a prince like Heinz, you know, the one who is child like her.

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

She deserves to be left alone. She spends her free nights alone ass naked singing to the moon. She has neither need nor want for the company of others, except concerning her obligations as a member of Walkure and as a senpai figure.

Alexander Nguyen
Alexander Nguyen

Giving Mirage an actual arc would've been a waste of time. She could've gotten over her problems a bit at a time as the episodes went by. Also, her character background is pretty boring.

Why the fuck would I want to go through 2 episodes of someone crying about MUH SELF-STEEM and MUH HAYATE'S DICK when we have better things like Mikumo's clone/star singer shit and Freyja?

No, thanks. Mirage is a supporting character at best.

Parker Lee
Parker Lee

Adrastia pls. Chaos is the only true answer. There is no Paul Dobson voicing Angelos in DoW3.

Aaron Jackson
Aaron Jackson

Mirage has an arc. The problem is her arc is shared with others. Her arc and development is literally background material. Her spot in the artificial triangular romance isn't even at face value. Nobody really treats her as a significant character or someone of special importance aside from Hayate. She is a main character with supporting character screentime and priority. Fucking Kaname has more priority than her, and shes devoted herself to chasing that old man dick and cleaning up after Walkure's mess. Thats whats pathetic.

Jaxson Ross
Jaxson Ross

That wouldn't be bad too. I wanted to say that giving focus to her "problems" could make the viewers sympathize more with her and even at least try and tie her story with the actualy story of Delta.

Well, it's over now. She had her big moment in episode 22 "saving" Hayate with her robohug and that's it.

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

She has neither need nor want for the company of others
Because she is an autistic toddler who never experienced such things. She never ate delicious food either and look at how much she enjoyed sea spiders. Mikumo is an innocent child who'd live inside a cage for the rest of her life if someone told her to and needs to be freed to see the outside world.

Colton Ward
Colton Ward

being an autist doesn't mean you couldn't feel love and Kumo deserve being loved more than anyone in delta

Angel Roberts
Angel Roberts

Walkure isn't a cage, to her its freedom. Thats why she accepts her role in Walkure unconditionally, because she loves her life as a member of Walkure. Thats why it doesn't matter to her whether or not shes a clone or a secret weapons project or whatever, because Walkure is all that matters to her.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

how, only two eps left

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

Mirage is fine, but she should have been secondary instead of a main. The third main character should have been a Windermerean like Keith.

Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

Mikumo lost her virginity to megane right ?

Ryder Morris
Ryder Morris

Kumo is loved by millions thoughout the star system... well, before Windemere enslaved and drove them all out. She is so loved that all of Kaname's fans (minus Messer) abandoned her for the Kumo.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

And main triangle Messer/Kaname/Keith. Hayate and Freyja are so perfect together, forcing them into a triangle was a mistake.

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Kumo doesn't give a shit about fan love, she needs a family and true love

John Butler
John Butler

I'm not talking about Walkure, I'm talki g about everything in her life that isn't Walkure.
She's on a fixed diet, probably lives in some secluded dorm on Elysion and just strolls around Ragna naked if you leave her alone.
She said singing is all she cares about but she clearly enjoys delicious food and the companionship of Walkure. That scene in episode 23 was all about how she should look for things beyond just singing in her life.

Andrew Hughes
Andrew Hughes

implying Kaname had any fans to begin with

Colton Watson
Colton Watson

Messer/Kaname/Keith
disgusting

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

Are you not watching the show? Walkure is her family. All she wants is Walkure. All she needs is Walkure.

Gavin Green
Gavin Green

And main triangle Messer/Kaname/Keith
Keith

But he only gives a fuck about his otouto. He would never turn his eyes towards Kaname. The triangle should have been Messer/Kaname/Arad.

Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

I mean Keith having the hots for Messer, a yandere homo, like the Sousei triangle.

Jaxson Jones
Jaxson Jones

I'm not talking about Walkure, I'm talki g about everything in her life that isn't Walkure.

She idles, muses to herself, or sings when not with Walkure. Just like any busy pop star who is too famous and successful to be around most people, especially a kind of pop star who dislikes the company of sycophants. Theres nothing irregular about her behavior.

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

Walkure is her family
she'll understand this truly in 26 ep after all this shit, 'cause now we don't know how'll she act towards them. now she stands at a crossroads as a half-windermerean and part of walkure at the same time

Nicholas Jackson
Nicholas Jackson

What is Hayate looking at? Did Bogue finally do the thing he was trying to do

John Long
John Long

now it's okay

Jose Foster
Jose Foster

Even pop stars know about good food, have a closest circle of friends and partake in social events.
Mikumo never did these things until Freyja's birthday and even there she didn't seem to socialize that much.
She lived on Ragna for three years but has never eaten sea spiders and never questioned living on a fixed diet because she thought only songs mattered to her.
She only thinks that way because singing is the only thing she knows.

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

So what are you getting at? Shes literally three, she has time to develop and have a life. Its developing around Walkure. You're acting like shes going to die.

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

Hopefully she won't die. Makina once said she would like to hear her sing after she starts understanding the joys of life.

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

Some user was arguing she doesn't need the company of others and only needs to sing.

Ayden Adams
Ayden Adams

She will. Eternal Mikumo.

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

Keith also likes to play with Messer (Keith starts to act like a kid when he gets to play in planes with Messer) so the triangle is more like Keith - > Messer -> Kaname.

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

Delta was pretty good until chapter 17 or so, what the fuck happened.

At that point it was better than Frontier at least, now it's bad.

Mason Russell
Mason Russell

Triangle should've been

Keith/Heinzrietta/Roid

Keith and Heinzrietta aren't blood related.

Keith would be the "brother" that loves her as a woman but keeps himself in check because he's a knight that must protect her and fight for Windermere.

Roid loves Heinzrietta but is misguided in his ways to rule over the Galaxy. Deep down he knows he is bad and that's why he refuses to allow himself to get closer to Heinz even though he loves her.

The shipping wars would be glorious. We'd be tearing each other's throats. I'd be out in the shipping battlefield screaming for Keith to win.

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

It was decent, not good. It had shit writing anyway but then they decided to fuck up pacing.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

Ok, I accept this. Makes more sense in what we saw in Delta too.

I would watch the hell out of this. Keith should win but I think they would have both him and Roid killed at the end.

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Any pairing here would be more popular than HayaFre, maybe Keith/Heinzrietta would be even more popular than messakana.

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Typical. Side character pairings almost always manage to be more popular than the main couple.

Grayson Gutierrez
Grayson Gutierrez

Brotherly love is best. Fuck your shipping shit.

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Not true. Alto/Sheryl was massively popular. HayaFre's 'problem' is that it feels too juvenile and thus even though it's well-liked it doesn't make that many people as invested in it as something more adult like messakana (desu I don't understand its popularity too much since I think there was no chemistry between them, or at least they didn't get close enough for me to discern what their dynamics could have been like).

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

I think the thing with HayaFre isn't that it's boring, because it's not. HayaFre is very cute but since it's so cute, you can't really go into full shipping mode like extreme flirting, jealousy drama, sexy teasing and stuff. And that takes a bit off fun out of it.

But still. HayaFre is the best because MUH UNMEI. Also, first Macross ship where the MCs aren't shitty fuckers and actually deserve each other.

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Bitch please, Alto/Sheryl was only massively popular because of Sheryl herself. She could hook up with Brera and it would still be popular. Hayate/Freyja is fun because they're both fun to watch interact together. And juvenile my ass, the fact that Hayate is willing to be with her despite her low lifespan is itself enough to invalidate such an opinion. But hey, maybe a movie will give MessaKana the treatment fans are asking for.

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

Last post reminds me, what does Cred Forums think of the show's potential pairings? To be honest the one that could have interested me is Reina/Bogue for the laughs because of how different their personalities are and the irony of Bogue having a boner for a Walkure. I'm pretty indifferent about the rest. I don't care about the main triangle and I swear if Arad gets Kaname I'm going to be mad since he doesn't deserve her.

Gavin Diaz
Gavin Diaz

I want Keith/Heinz.

Jaxson Reed
Jaxson Reed

No, people were pretty invested in Alto's and Sheryl's relationship beyond the Sherylfaggotry.

Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

potential pairings
I'm fine with them all, except for the ones that involve Mirage. I feel that she needs to focus on her training and honing her skills instead of obsessing over the rookie and screaming his name every time they sortie. I'm also totally fine with Arad winning the kanamebowl.

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

Would you?

Noah Rivera
Noah Rivera

That looks horrifying.

Asher Phillips
Asher Phillips

Don't be mean.

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

Only bad potential pairings are HayaMira and AradKana. No matter what miragefags say, Mirage being able to talk to Hayate after he killed a guy or when he was hospitalized is nothing compared to his moments with Freyja. As for the other, it would be alright if Arad actually had chemistry with Kaname, but like Hayate and Mirage, the two never go beyond camaraderie. In the end, none of these two ships have had any romantic moments.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

i can't get behind any pairing in delta if there isn't any substance to most of the characters
it's just mixing visually appealing characters together

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

Oddly enough, I haven't seen any MessaKana doujin. Only ones I've seen are HayaFre and one HayaMira.

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

You also can't into capital letters.

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

Didn't you see Keith's face when they mentioned MUH SHINIGAMI last episode.

Christopher Cox
Christopher Cox

Imagine if these two had started their rivalry long ago. I think I would have liked it better than Messer vs Keith. It would be a teacher vs teacher kind of rivalry. Both have their own hot headed student to worry about, and they would be fighting each other to see who is the better instructor. Too late now, but I'd like to see people make up some cool headcanons for these two.

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

but Mirage wouldn't stand a chance. She only gets to face Herman because he has a soft spot for inexperienced and young pilots and her group respected his teammate. Besides it's not like Mirage wanted to be Hayate's teacher.

Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

This would make more sense if Keith was the one clinging to Roid.

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

He isn't a 3 yo little girl, user.
Also according to the artist's commentary, it's Keith->Roid<-Mikumo

Samuel Harris
Samuel Harris

I miss Messer.

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

They aren't rivals. Herman is trying to make Mirage to stop sucking.

Caleb Jones
Caleb Jones

Keith pls

Liam Thompson
Liam Thompson

I want it all

Sebastian Nelson
Sebastian Nelson

teaching an enemy during war

Delta truly hit rock bottom

Mason Gonzalez
Mason Gonzalez

All he did was telling her she sucks at piloting right before her "execution".

Charles Jackson
Charles Jackson

Manga or anime? The manga had a much nicer end.

Jaxson Wright
Jaxson Wright

Zentradi near immortal
Windkikes die quick
Why don't they just crossbreed?

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

Windies have beautiful genes. They don't want to taint their wind with sharp ears.

Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

Enjoy dying by 30.

Cameron Hill
Cameron Hill

Oh my...

Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

Valkyrie outfits when? I'd buy a whole set.

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

Why doesn't Japan solve its problems by mass importing Mexicans?

Ian White
Ian White

THEY HAVE TO GO BACK
THEY'RE THIEVES
THEY'RE RAPISTS

Anthony Young
Anthony Young

How does this make you feel Cred Forumsnons?

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Control your boner, Hayate.

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

We can all say it's the pacing, but it's not just that.
Yasuda is better at bright slice of life without wartime tension, but he's awful when he has to do serious scenes. I think that's the main reason why the 1st cour was better when things were more episodic.
Kawamori can cover for him in the battles and the music scenes, but there weren't that many in the second half of Delta.
As a result, Delta had critically lost the momentum that makes Macross Macross.

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

I feel like I wanna see a male version of Freyja now with a pilot suit on.

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

Basically you axe the writers and hire some competent director who knows how to create tension.

Jack Young
Jack Young

So what the fuck was that sound that played when Bogue grabbed Freyja

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

Why Bogue is still alive? Why jewbros are still alive?

Zachary Long
Zachary Long

Rune changing color, not sure it was Bogue's or Freyja's.

Gabriel Nguyen
Gabriel Nguyen

is this kaname with hayate's hairstyle?

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

Freyja's a QT.

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

MUH

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

MUH DICK

Jordan Martin
Jordan Martin

What the hell? How is this allowed?

Luke Baker
Luke Baker

Fuck all of you RoidKeithMikumo fags

mikumo x hayate otp

Colton Murphy
Colton Murphy

Will there be a Delta movie?

Robert Sanders
Robert Sanders

Every show has had a movie so there's a good chance it will.

Parker Cox
Parker Cox

You think we'll see a Freyja paint job on Siegy-chan during the final battle?

Cooper Reed
Cooper Reed

There wasn't enough of the Walkure girls bullying Mikumo.

Ryan Diaz
Ryan Diaz

I WANT NUDE PAINT JOB

Adrian Stewart
Adrian Stewart

NUDE

PAINT

JOB

Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed

Hoina is too precious to Hayate for him to allow such a thing.

Tyler Sanders
Tyler Sanders

Yeah, he might use chibi art instead because MUH WAIFU'S PURITY. I'm craving for lewd one because we might get Freyja's nudie figure.

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

So, which girl won?

William Jones
William Jones

This one can remove Ranka's bikini.

Jaxon Collins
Jaxon Collins

Rune-chan

Lincoln Sanders
Lincoln Sanders

So far Freyja is winning, but we won't know for sure until she and Hayate kiss, hug, or at the very least hold hands.

Tyler Richardson
Tyler Richardson

I wouldn't mind chibi Freyja on his Siegfried, as long as Hayate goes into battle proudly showing off his waifu love, I'll be happy.

Tyler Lee
Tyler Lee

i want hayate's gun pod to scream RUNEPIKABEAM when it's in beam gun mode

Michael Gonzalez
Michael Gonzalez

I want him to go for the gori gori attack and put his rune pika beam in FreFre's hoina and release all his bucha

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

Chlore pls.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

To my surprise, Asami seto is definitely one of the decent looking VA in the anime industry.

Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

Based on how the radio show got a renovation I've seen some speculation online about a third cour or a movie.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

Meaning the whole Delta series is just a build up for the movie as the finisher?

Eli Powell
Eli Powell

I don't know how usual or unusual it is for radio shows to still go on once the series has ended, but to be honest there's too much to resolve in two eps.

Lucas Watson
Lucas Watson

Unlikely. This has never been the pattern before. But admittedly, that's how it looked like it'd be earlier with the 1 cour and movie situation.

John Bennett
John Bennett

Eh, not really. The exact same argument was said about Frontier too.

We don't really need a long session explaining Lady M or anything. If you've paid attention to the show you know the outcome of the triangle, it just needs to be said in show. Windermere just has to be beaten and Roid foiled, and shit resolved for a feel good ending.

Luis Carter
Luis Carter

I'd be a happy with another season if only because I don't want Macross to end so miserably.

Luke Davis
Luke Davis

What about this guy?

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Didn't he die in episode 15? Forget where I heard that

Carson Foster
Carson Foster

If you have been paying attention to the series and the side materials you will have noticed that besides Roid and Windermere there are like two or three conspirancies happening behind the scenes. Lady M stealing Mikumo from the ruins, the bombing of Carlisle, NUNS's shenanigans and Epsilon's true plans.

Aiden Russell
Aiden Russell

I don't get why so many people think he died in ep 15 when he never shows up in that scene, not even suffering from VAR. Unless I see him dying on screen I'll just assume he's alive scheming somewhere.

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

need a long session explaining Lady M or anything
Windermere just has to be beaten and Roid failed.
Porblem is if loose ends like Lady M and Roid's are solved what about the Major Valak and his shady superiors, see ?

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

I would be fine with a movie because that means I would watch it in a year or so. But please, no new season. I want off this ride.

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

This show actually has potential to be a 3 cour series if done right.

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

The smartphone game is coming out next year. It would be the right timing for a movie.
Assuming anyone cares about Delta anymore that is.

Lincoln Cox
Lincoln Cox

3rd cour won't happen. A movie isn't impossible but unlikely, unless we're talking about a normal retelling type movie, which is likely.

Jonathan Cook
Jonathan Cook

Movie
Most probably will be a retelling and some proper arrangements.

Mason Perez
Mason Perez

If IBO got a S2 then Delta can definitely get a cour 3

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

So... I haven't watched this since ep 17. Are there many good songs in the 2nd cour, or were they all included in the first?

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

They could try to tie up all the loose threads but I think it would be very rushed. For example, in Frontier by now we knew exactly who was behind the conspirancies, and yet ep 25 felt a bit rushed. In Delta we only have vague hints scattered here and there, and Hayate and co. don't seem any closer to the truth behind the bombing than they were eps ago.

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

And it would also be good timing to release another Walkure album.

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

truth behind the bombing
Epsilon makes a move, reveals they manipulated Wright. Done.

Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

A movie of 2 hours or so (4 episodes in anime schedule), it's more than enough for this. I really want a movie because I don't see the need for another cour of 13 episodes about something that can revealed/resolved in around half.

Carson Jenkins
Carson Jenkins

Epsilon makes a move, reveals they manipulated Wright. Done.
So the misunderstanding from the Windies is solved in within 5 mins.

Colton Green
Colton Green

And what IBO getting a S2 has anything to do with Delta's own production?

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

3rd cour does not necessary have to 13 episodes, 4 - 5 more would be okay.

Lincoln Adams
Lincoln Adams

Hispanic Activist Who Criticized Trump’s Mexican Rapist Comments Arrested for Raping Illegal Immigrant
They really are.

That begs the question: are humans the equivalent of Mexicans in the Macross universe? I mean, all indications are that humans go to all these virgin worlds, colonize them, and interbreed with the populace. We have half-Zentrans and half-Zoltans now.

Jason Torres
Jason Torres

well the bomb wasn't the start of the independence war, but the end of it.

And honestly, can it go any other way at this point? Wright clearly didn't drop the bomb of his own volition, as its a heinous act to all involved parties.

Leo Scott
Leo Scott

Given the horrible quality of Delta storywriting, Epsilon will be the most likely scapegoat. Bonus points if Lady M and Epsilon are really ex-Grace agents who weren't able to join her in time for the Vajra takeover, and see this as another shot to take over the galaxy.

Wyatt Lee
Wyatt Lee

A cour needs at least 10 episodes to air like an anime. It would also be difficult to find a channel to air so few weekly episodes because it would also disturb the airing of other shows after it's finished. A movie would be better for this kind of time frame.

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

Maybe Wright did drop it of his own will, because he knew how dangerous the Windies were.

I mean, these are the winners of that revolution, and look what they do. They strap on gliders so they can rip and tear their enemies to shreds when they execute them while screaming CAW CAW CAW.

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

Lady M is a codename for that UN Spacy guy from episodes 13-14.

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

Harmony gold should die already

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

This thread is pretty much dead.

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

I actually think a bigger moment for her was telling the other two to calm their fucking runes and stop moping. Showing some actual confidence and leadership that actually lines up with the fact she's supposed to outrank them.

Lucas Sullivan
Lucas Sullivan

I thought both that scene and the other one was shit.

Aaron Flores
Aaron Flores

Humans cloned themselves and went out to colonize the galaxy in order to prevent another Protoculture extinction event. Its a matter of preserving Protoculture first - everything else is secondary or tertiary. Racemixing with other humanoids and aliens supports this purpose of propagating and protecting the Protoculture.

Owen Johnson
Owen Johnson

That's cool. You are entitled to your opinion.

I don't think Mirage has been particularly fantastically handled. Still, one of the few things I did like was her telling both of them that she loves them.

I'd like to see it all end with Philia between the trio, rather than Eros being involved.

Aaron Barnes
Aaron Barnes

I'd like to see it all end with Philia between the trio, rather than Eros being involved.
Kind of difficult when they wrote both of the heroines hold romantic feelings for the MC. If they wanted friendship, they should not have made Freyja and Mirage fall for him. The writes could develop their over growing friendship, bond and trust with no need for romance.

That's the reason I don't understand why the writes don't want winners and losers in this triangle. They should have done a non-romantic triangle as they did with Keith/Heinz/Roid.

Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

Because sponsors and merchandising obligations. Commercially, the series is being promoted on this triangle. They have no choice but to keep pushing the fake triangle or else face accusations of false advertising.

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

Sponsors never ever said this.

Zachary Walker
Zachary Walker

The problem is her word and advice didn't solve any thing, Hayate still goes nut when Freyja sing.
They want to make everyone feel good, to be honest how can anyone feel good with unresolved triangle?

Eli Bennett
Eli Bennett

Kind of difficult when they wrote both of the heroines hold romantic feelings for the MC. If they wanted friendship, they should not have made Freyja and Mirage fall for him. The writes could develop their over growing friendship, bond and trust with no need for romance.

Oh, I said I'd like it.

I never said I expected it. I expected basically what going on now, a shitty love triangle where I honestly feel every single member of it would be better off using the time spent on it with other character development.

Mirage's character development got basically shot in the back with all these scenes that are just 'Delta-4!'. They could have really done a lot with her lack of confidence and refusal to let herself go with a pair of supportive friends she can be herself with rather than freaking out over maybe liking a guy.

The message that Freya is doing this so she can sing for everyone even if it means opposing her planet would be stronger if it wasn't overshadowed by 'Maybe I like this human on the other side'.

Hayate could have...well, ok. Hayate has gotten a heap of character stuff because he's the main character of the entire series but they could have done more with the idea of the unit being a family, rather than it containing two girls he'd like to bone.

Liam Thomas
Liam Thomas

I'd like to see it all end with Philia between the trio, rather than Eros being involved.

Yeah, Mirage being a huge cockblock for the other two would do wonders for her overall impression, right?

Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

Except they trying to push her again in last month, the only pathetic of this show are the staffs, they seems don't even know what are they doing and complete lost it in 2nd cour.

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

The message that Freya is doing this so she can sing for everyone even if it means opposing her planet would be stronger if it wasn't overshadowed by 'Maybe I like this human on the other side'.
Her main reason is to stop the wars though.

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

Trying is the keyword.

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

While being a living weapon, more or less so?

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

No it wasn't. Her main reason was because Windemere life sucks and she wants to do something exciting for a change, like audition for Walkure.

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

From
credforums.com/thread/147201129/anime
Also Yasuda wasn't really saying he was proud but that he thinks they did carefully portray how her encounter with Hayate and Freyja changed her

Her arc is basically botched, since we never able to get the message from the director.
Or more directly, Yasuda sucks.

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

I'm actually expecting Mirage to be like Klan or Emilia's level of prowess.

Brayden Russell
Brayden Russell

Pretty sure they seriously think they did a great job about to Mirage's development, so we should supposedly feels good about Mirage getting "main focus" in magazine again.

But end up not even Miragefags feels good about it.

Connor Miller
Connor Miller

I just expect writer will make her do something more than MIA or yelling Delta 5/4 after first cour, but nope, only suddenly powerful if the scene needs her(same for Arad anyway).

Parker Parker
Parker Parker

Thinking about it, I believe that one of the reasons Windemere has serious issues as the opposition is just how little we've seen the civilian population.

It doesn't really feel like they are fighting a planet of people. It feels like they are fighting a half dozen belkan knights who are shitted off that they nuked themselves.

Some of the Windemere time would have been really better off used showing how the common person feels about the NUNS and what's going on with them. Make it feel more like actual people and cultures clashing over a legitimate issue (Windemere wanting to be free/having legitimate grievances with the NUNS) rather than just half a dozen assholes who need to calm their runes.

The planet just feels...empty and lifeless.

Justin Miller
Justin Miller

only initially. did you just gloss over the entire arc Freyja's reason for singing was questioned? where she found a reason for it in saving people and trying to end the war? its all in cour 1 so you might be forgiven for your short memory

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

I was thought episode 15 would be about Windermere's civilian, but they fucked up.

Austin Wilson
Austin Wilson

Well you do sure complain about it a lot like a bunch of whiny entitled babies, that's for sure

Asher James
Asher James

I'm really shitty about the missed opportunity even more recently.

Hey, my village is right there in line of sight!
We are on the run from people.
Should we try and visit there or ever show a single person from it on-screen?
NAH.

Benjamin Cruz
Benjamin Cruz

LONG LIVE BELKA.

Nathaniel Green
Nathaniel Green

Then they failed. Both at the market target and what they wrote. Many fans are not happy by this. I believe they could have a romantic triangle at first that could end with friendship but man, you need really good writting for this and of course the staff of Delta can't pull it off as we know.

They want to make everyone feel good, to be honest how can anyone feel good with unresolved triangle?
Well, that's the thing with love triangles. There is a winner and a loser. One side will have pain. I think a good feeling love triangle is to give moments, scenes with the 3 characters involved that tie to their character/relationship development plus being tied up strong with the main story. Sadly, Delta doesn't have this, especially concern omg Mirage.

Hayate has character development. Freyja and Mirage had character progression mostly. Freyja stole the spotlight and became the main heroine while Mirage's problems faded to the background.

For a love triangle their relationship is lacking in the friendship department too. I never felt anything strong between Freyja and Mirage.

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

You don't 'end' the war. You win it. Fucking japs pls.

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

Don't worry, the problem list of Macross Delta never ever only about Mirage, she is just one of the problem.

Lincoln Murphy
Lincoln Murphy

White Peace is very much a thing.

Joshua James
Joshua James

especially concerning about Mirage.
Sorry, autocorrect.

Anthony Ortiz
Anthony Ortiz

stole the spotlight

as if it wasn't hers to begin with. Bitter pathetic miragefags droning on and on about Mirage. Well fuck you.

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

expecting anything from a show that spend 13 episodes in Ragna and never portrayed the planet, its people and its culture as anything other than brown people who scam white tourists and are obsessed the jellyfish

Nicholas Baker
Nicholas Baker

Not when your enemies are buttdevastated spess Belkans who use MC tech.
Why did they slap Jenius name on her?

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

Find a different show?

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

Why is that even an issue to you? Mustn't taint the legacy or something? Mylene didn't already?

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

For a love triangle their relationship is lacking in the friendship department too. I never felt anything strong between Freyja and Mirage.

Yeah, which is unfortunate. About the only stuff we'd had between the pair almost feels more like shipper fodder trying to tease people with 'Maybe they'll get together!' (The pair sharing a cockpit etc) than any real friendship stuff between the pair. Most of the time if Freyja and Mirage are talking Hayate or everyone else is in the same scene.

They could have done some good scenes with Mirage's worries about her own ability to live up to his family name and Freyja's 'Life is only 30 years long, go for it full force!' intersecting.

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

Mirage's problems only needs some progress in each battle episodes, personally i think it's not hard to write about it, sadly she almost went MIA everytime.

I never felt anything strong between Freyja and Mirage.
See
The staff think it's strong enough, i guess that's why episode 20 happened.

Owen Sanchez
Owen Sanchez

Miragefag wanting the show to end with a friendship only sky end.

Oh the sweet sweet irony.

Brandon Thomas
Brandon Thomas

Freyjafag here, ignore this post, it's not about Miragefags(or Freyjafags) in this discussion, do not reply to shitposters.

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

I am a Freyjafag and I don't see what wrong I said. Maybe I should have worded it better, so here:
What I meant was that from the moment you have 2 heroines, you are supposed to give them both equal spotlight or at least focus. Mirage had it during the first cour and till up episode 13. While not the heavy importance of Freyja as an idol and being able to resonate with Hayate, she was still involved around.

But starting 2nd cour this was deleted. She faded to the background and didn't have any involvement in the story or at least with the other characters besides concerning herself with Hayate.

Freyja on the other hand had more to over come and focus on. Her writing, while not as strong as I would like, made her look and be the main heroine.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

feel good triangle

As a Freyjafag, I feel pretty good. But you know what'd make me feel better? A fucking HayaFre kiss or at least a fucking hug.

Asher Bailey
Asher Bailey

normative nonsense about how you are supposed to handle your characters.

No fuck you. You're just an entitled bitch, "Freyjafag"

Charles Cook
Charles Cook

I don't feel good because i don't like Hayate.

Nathaniel Jackson
Nathaniel Jackson

A kissless macross is just wrong.

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

Are you autistic or something?

Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

Says the mentally retarded fucktard who just keeps droning on and on about Mirage. This is the very definition of autism.

Grayson Morgan
Grayson Morgan

Hayate has vastly improved from the start and at least he's not bland but I'm not much of a fan of him either.

I'm not sure what I'd have done main-character wise instead of him though (Because god forbid they just make one of the other two the initial focus character and skip out on romance.)

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

Agreed. Hayate needs to man the fuck up and kiss Freyja already.

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Are you seriously suggesting they should have dropped Hayate altogether and focused on Mirage and Freyja instead, or am I reading this wrong?

Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

Are you really that autistic to care that much about shitty fictional characters?

Eli Lopez
Eli Lopez

I don't see the staff would let Mirage equal to Freyja, though i still agree that they should write her something about herself, not just blushing when Hayate is with her.
Better yet, let her separated from Hayate.

Benjamin Parker
Benjamin Parker

Thanks for calling me a shitposter when I was trying to make a normal conversation here. If some disagree with me, that's totally fine. We are listing opinions and impressions afterall. If you have nothing to say regarding my post besides acting like a shitposter, don't even bother then.

You forgot to take your pills apparently.

Dominic Martinez
Dominic Martinez

Are you really that autistic to care that much about shitty fictional characters?

Right back at you. You're the one who keeps droning about her.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

Did you forget to take your pills? No one cares about cardboard cutouts, there are no good characters in Delta.

Nicholas Thomas
Nicholas Thomas

It's because Kennosuke Tokisada Ouma is miles better than Hayate.

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

Hello AC shitposter. Guess I should have realized sooner what with your obsession with Mirage.

Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

Well, more 'I don't know what sort of male character would have worked better than him, even if I'm not very happy with him'.

Though tying it with just Mirage/Freyja could have been interesting. The pair already are the 'Singer/Pilot' pair of characters that a Macross series needs.

Mirage could have honestly have served his role as the 'Pilot who needs to learn a lesson/improve' and Freyja could have served his role as 'Outside person who doesn't know stuff about Chaos/The setting' though.

Mason Wilson
Mason Wilson

user, take your pills.

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

Or you know, it could just have cut Mirage.

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

I'm bored with boy meets girl Macross, time for girl meets girl Macross.

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

You could have cut like 2/3 of the cast and it won't make writing better anyway.

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

Mikumo Freyja then.

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

Or you know, it could just have cut Mirage.

I second this notion.

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

/u/ can fuck off.

Joshua Cooper
Joshua Cooper

Then you lack a pilot character. Girl/Girl would be less dramatic than somehow having Macross without a main pilot character.

Lincoln Lewis
Lincoln Lewis

The story progression till episode 20 did suggest Mirage going protection mode for them but it still didn't convince me. They did not execute this idea well and it felt kinda flat for me.

Yes, it lacked in her character altogether not just her connection with others. I wasn't expecting her to be equal to Freyja because as I said, Freyja is the idol plus she resonates with the MC so of course her story involvement would be stronger than Mirage's.

I don't think her separation from Hayate would either be good or bad. It has to do with writing. She could still love Hayate but also have her own story involvement and relationships with the rest of the cast.

Charles Walker
Charles Walker

Lady M LITERALLY when?

Jackson Gutierrez
Jackson Gutierrez

Triangle should've been

Hayate <-> Freyja <- > Mikumo

Hayate loves Freyja and viceversa.
Mikumo loves Freyja's songs and viceversa.
Triangle ends with Freyja realizing she loves not only Mikumo's songs, but also Mikumo herself. She blows off Hayate and marries Shinpi.

Win=Win

Joshua Scott
Joshua Scott

Only if Mikumo is a pilot.

By the way Mirage isn't last group of characters they created, she exist since 2014(can't find the magazine anymore sorry), though her original design was tomboy like, with cool, lack of emotions personality.

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

Never. NUNS fleet or that CIA guy also never.

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

Who gives a shit?

Tyler Watson
Tyler Watson

Of course it would be good. It'd be good to see her move on from her infatuation with him. The OTP couple gets together, the third wheel, moves on, is happy with herself, and has overcome her rejection without Ranka's melodrama from Frontier.

Hey presto, a feel good triangle.

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

people actually still giving a shit about Mirage

Agreed. Just let it go.

Blake Nguyen
Blake Nguyen

It feels like even a Freyjafag could write a better development for Mirage.

Tyler Hughes
Tyler Hughes

No /u/ allow in Macross.

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

though her original design was tomboy like, with cool, lack of emotions personality.
I'm so mad.

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

Hayate & Freyja leave to travel the galaxy with the few years she has left alive
Mirage reaffirms her role as a protector
"I'll keep Ragna save for when you come back"

Only way it can end now

Evan Perry
Evan Perry

I mean it's not rocket science. If you want it to be feel good, you must A) have one side win clearly and decisively. Unresolved just annoys both sides, as does having a 4th person swoop in and steal it.
B) having the losing side get a clean break from it and move on. The sooner the better really.

I mean you can do whatever you want with your triangle. Troll everyone, piss them off, be brutal about it. But if you want a 'feel good' one? The above have to pretty much be followed. Heck the above isn't all there is to making it feel good, but a bare minimum.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

No fuck you, Freyja will get a long life.

Eli Brown
Eli Brown

Why does anyone even care about shitty jap romance?

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

You don't need to make it so bloody obvious, Miragefag.

Robert Cox
Robert Cox

Hello Mr. Basement Dweller.

Chase Walker
Chase Walker

jap
Get back to your chink or gook ghetto

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

I actually really like Hayate's and Freyja's budding romance, thank you very much.

Austin Mitchell
Austin Mitchell

I need to buy this doujin as soon as it comes out

Noah King
Noah King

shitty
Really? I mean I think Hayate and Freyja's relationship have an actual development.

David Miller
David Miller

Hayate and Mirage were mistakes.

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

This really seems like one of those 5 stages of grief or whatever. It's just a little on the nose with this one
Because my horse lost, it's just a shitty jap romance

Ethan Powell
Ethan Powell

Hayate
He's a shit pilot but still a great MC.

Nolan Phillips
Nolan Phillips

I was thinking the same, but not really sure how to get it from abroad.

Dominic James
Dominic James

He has no character except screaming WAIFU every single fight. Delta is aimed at otaku crowd so whatever.

Juan Phillips
Juan Phillips

Yeah no.

Luis Long
Luis Long

Hell yes. That and plot armor.

Juan Allen
Juan Allen

He's got a very established personality, just because you don't like it.
plot armor
Stop wasting my time.

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

Oh, did I trigger you? He has no personality except for screaming WAIFU every single fight and basically waifuism incarnate. Clearly shows target audience.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

He's just boring and empty. Maybe he might have become interesting if we saw more of him without Freyja because now there is nothing else to his character.
Even Amata was better.

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

Hayate
plot armor
I'm getting tired of retards coming here from tvtropes.
Aloways lurk more before using unfamiliar words.

Henry Reyes
Henry Reyes

Why you people don't like waifufaggotary?

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

I wish Delta was airing mid-week.

When summer ended shitposting dropped a lot in these threads. It seems majority of them went back to school and couldn't shitpost 24/7 as they used to do. But weekends are still exception.

Grayson Powell
Grayson Powell

A necessary sacrifice. Japs need something to self-insert into. At least he's not a dog yet.

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

It's boring.

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

He's just boring and empty.
Only if you're blind and mentally handicapped.
They constantly showed his personality, traits as well as their gradual change. Hayate is light years better than Hikaru and he is not a total faggot like Alto-hime.

Ryder Hernandez
Ryder Hernandez

Full star song when?

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

He is a bum who happens to be a talented mecha pilot and a fold quartz necklace which carries him through the story. Outside of that, he is literally all tropes with no real foundation to support his character. His dad died and he became a bum to get away from it all, and he doesn't kill knights because he is a moody hippie. That's it.

Jeremiah Perez
Jeremiah Perez

Star song a shit.
Full Love Thunder Grow when?

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

he is literally all tropes

Shit meme. Sorry.

Ethan Collins
Ethan Collins

Hayate is light years better than Hikaru
Hikaru plane
VF-1, robust fighter without ex-gear and fuckton of electronic assist systems
no fold quartz, no "muh wind", only pure skill

Joshua Baker
Joshua Baker

It's a story about pilot and his idol (read 'magical buffs out of the ass') so that was expected.

Josiah Cox
Josiah Cox

Hayate can be summed up in two lines
Muh Freyja
Muh wind

Why did they think this would fly with viewers?

Colton Lee
Colton Lee

Delta should've been about Hayate dancing through the galaxy instead of some pseudo war drama.

Jaxson Watson
Jaxson Watson

Better as a character.
But you probably one of those Miragefags who measure characters in piloting skill only.

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

I'm pretty sure he meant in terms of likability, not skill. Hikaru may be a good pilot but he is scum, treating Misa like some backup. Hayate's just a better boy because he isn't an indecisive fuckwit. He knows who he wants to be with.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

But you probably one of those Miragefags who measure characters in piloting skill only
sticking labels

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

measure characters in piloting skill only.
measuring pilots with piloting
Ah, well, take your pills.
Every macross MC was either faggot or a dick. Now we have self-insert material.

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

All early Macross MC's are sort of scums.
Hikaru, Isamu, Guld.

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

Basara was autistic and Alto was A-grade planefucker.

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

Just because MC is devoted to protecting the girl who made him look at life differently doesn't make him a self insert. He's just a better MC than the trash we got before.

Tyler Wilson
Tyler Wilson

He's worse. He got no character to allow nips to self-insert. Only waifufaggotry.

Jose Wilson
Jose Wilson

How will it be if Theodor was Macross MC?

Asher Reed
Asher Reed

implying the nips don't self-insert as Hayate because of his waifufaggotry for the Hoina

Brayden Bailey
Brayden Bailey

Hayate would have been better if they gave him some scumbag traits.

Wyatt Hall
Wyatt Hall

I wasn't wrong. Look, turns out is that retarded ace combat shitposter throwing new buzzwords he learned few days ago on /v/.

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

He's practically Isamu-lite. Go back to TV Tropes.

Brody Richardson
Brody Richardson

He's a slacker who only does what he likes.

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

They do, that's the point of his character.

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

No. Hayate is better precisely because he isn't scum and actually treats his waifu with care and respect.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

Isamu-lite
shit pilot with absolutely no charisma whatsoever who can't even fuck anything
Sweet delusion.

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

He even recognizes when something is bothering unlike the others who act completely dense and insensitive. Then again, Freyja has a rune which tells all her emotions, so in a way Hayate has been given a cheat.

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

Nah, he's still a Freyjafag who notices every little thing about her even without the rune and goes out of his way to put a smile on her face.

That's my boy.

Bentley Gray
Bentley Gray

his waifu

She hasn't won and she will never win

Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

Hayate is the less annoying version of Bogue

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

Why Bogue is still alive.

Parker Wright
Parker Wright

She hasn't won and she will never win

Angel Allen
Angel Allen

Not all pilots have to fuck something to show their charisma. Isamu is also scum. Completely unlikable if you look past his WAIFU-19 faggotry.

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

Ended in episode 3 and Hayate has been static since 6, and not even 10 because it doesn't feel like Messer's death changed him in any substantial way.
Maybe there is something more for his development depending on how the writers choose to conclude his father's subplot, but it's looking to be more of a mystery than something that is crucial for his development.
That makes him good boyfriend material and isn't alone strong enough to make him carry a Macross TV show.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

yeah he really hasn't danced nearly as much as you'd think he would
that is until he saves the day by doing it in the last episode

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Almost no MC in Macross was good enough to carry a TV show, that's why they had two other characters. Macross 7 needed Gamlin. Macross Frontier needed Sheryl. This time we have Freyja. Hikaru is really the only MC that had the most screen time out of the others but he is scum.

Zachary Campbell
Zachary Campbell

ITT: HayaFrafags would rather watch a SoL romance about them that didn't involve space cancer

Adam Nguyen
Adam Nguyen

That's waifufags in a nutshell.

Jeremiah King
Jeremiah King

shippers are dumb for enjoying their ship and wanting them to do cute things together

Son...

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

That means Freyja isn't close to Gamlin or Sheryl then.

Hudson Martin
Hudson Martin

What logic is that? Freyja best girl.

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

It's not that hard to be best in shit show.
Not dumb, autistic. That's their way to escape reality though.

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Macross has pretty much almost always been pretty disappointing with MCs.

Carter Peterson
Carter Peterson

That makes him good boyfriend material and isn't alone strong enough to make him carry a Macross TV show.
True but at least we're not calling him a shitter or an autist

Brayden Carter
Brayden Carter

今日発売のグレメカで河森とDr.チバが設定面でいろいろ語ってる

・ブリージンガル球状星団は50万年前にゼントラーディから逃げのびたプロトカルチャーが砦にした
・ウィンダミア人はプロトカルチャーが対ゼントラーディ用に開発した防衛兵器(30年の寿命はリミッター)かもしれない
・「風の歌い手」は遺跡の起動装置で、「星の歌い手」だけで使用することはできないようにする安全装置
・マクロス世界は一時期クローンで人口を増やしたけどその後いろいろなトラブルが起きて現在は廃絶する流れ
・VFの慣性制御システムはパイロットにかかるGを中和してるのではなく貯めていて、慣性がある程度貯まると解凍(開放)しないといけない
 パイロットが緊急脱出する時は貯まってた慣性が一気にかかることになる
・Dr.チバ(作中人物の方)は大学時代にマオ・ノームの歌理論の講義を受け、マクロス7の後フォールドウェーブ理論を完成させた
・ドラケンの形式番号についているSvはSlayer Valkyrie(もしくはVF)で統合戦争の恨みを忘れていない
・ワルキューレの本来の人数はドレミファソラシの音に合わせて7人(ちなみに北欧神話では9人)

等々、他にもいろいろ語ってるので一読をお勧めする

Isaiah Bell
Isaiah Bell

But the show isn't shit.

Cameron Anderson
Cameron Anderson

Because it does. The overwhelming majority like it when he fags over her. He's usually a calm guy.

Tyler Richardson
Tyler Richardson

"Pass peacefully in his arms after all the excitement has ended" is also okay.

Do you really need more than that? I mean, he's just a regular guy who found a waifu and something that he's good at.

Personally, I care less about the "complexity" of a character (especially since attempts at "complex" oftentimes just becomes hamfisted and overwrought) and more about the way they comport themselves. And while Hayate doesn't have the most engaging personality, he's not as bland as a bag of bricks by any measure.

Michael Scott
Michael Scott

Is this a summary on Kawamori's interview? I can't read kanas so I need someone to interpret it

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

No death! At the very least Freyja should be covered in flakes right before the effects are reversed so she can reunite with her husbando.

Jeremiah Peterson
Jeremiah Peterson

"Pass peacefully in his arms after all the excitement has ended" is also okay.

Fuck that shit. After all the shit Freyja has been through, she deserves to get her lifespan fixed and be happy.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher

She's definitely going to "die" before the lifespan thing is fixed and she gets "revived". Freyja needs to become the Windermere jesus.

Parker Scott
Parker Scott

the movies are gonna be so much better than the show

Charles Lee
Charles Lee

Freyja needs to become the Windermere jesus.

And I will be a devoted and loyal follower of her Gospel of Gori Gori.

Kevin Morris
Kevin Morris

You were the only redeeming quality, Messah-kun.

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

Have you accepted Jesus Freyja Wion as your Lady and Savior?

Landon King
Landon King

No, there's one mecha Jesus and his name is Kira Yamato. Heretics can fuck off.

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

messah
white
Who is this character?

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

Jesus Freyja Wion
Oh, I see it.
Hayate decides to finish his dad's job and deploys 2nd nuke on Windermere. Freyja gets caught by explosion. But in the she survives the nuke without any explanation and becomes the new Jesus.

Liam Perez
Liam Perez

No, it's a different Kawamori interview.
The Windies may have been a defensive weapon against the Zentradi and their 30 year lifespans are their limiters.
The wind singers are the activation device for the ruins and a safety mechanism to prevent them from being activated by the star singers alone.
Some other lore about cloning and info about the inertia control technology.
Dr. Chiba attended a lecture by Mao in his college years and completed the fold wave theory after Macross 7.
There really should have been 7 Walkure to match the seven notes of the musical scale and that there are Walkure in Norse mythology.
I think we might get a final song with Minmay, Basara, Sheryl, and Ranka joining in to complete Walkure.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

This makes Freyja Jesus very sad. Hopefully you will one day see the light of your sins.

Have a very Gori Gori day.

Dominic Gomez
Dominic Gomez

I think we might get a final song with Minmay, Basara, Sheryl, and Ranka joining in to complete Walkure.

I doubt it. Minmay is fucking lost, Basara is fucking around the Galaxy. Also bringing in Ranka and Sheryl wouldn't be right since it's not their "battle"

Christian Evans
Christian Evans

Kawamori wanted 7 idols
The madman.

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

The Windies may have been a defensive weapon against the Zentradi and their 30 year lifespans are their limiters.

So if Windies were a defense against the Zentradi and they needed "limiters" doesn't that mean Windies>Zents in terms of power?

Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

Add 2 previous members (blond girl and fishgirl) and you have 7 Walkures. So it's not like they dropped that reference completely.

Carter Young
Carter Young

I'll be amazed if they somehow salvage the second cour and give us a finale on par with Frontier's last episode.

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

Did you miss the thing about the galactic mind control network?
The other singers can join in through that.

Jace Miller
Jace Miller

Perhaps. But if we got past singers joining in to help fix things, it'd feel like a cop out to me. Like Walkure wouldn't have been able to do it on their own so they had to bring in past Macross Idols to get shit done.

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

But past macross idols have no fold receptors, it is a mutation caused by fold bacteria left by Vajra.

Ryder Perez
Ryder Perez

What was the point of episode 19 then?

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

UTA WA HEIKI

It was to show that songs have saved the Galaxy for ages. It doesn't mean past idols will make a comeback.

Bentley Perez
Bentley Perez

Past singers have no fold receptors
But they have anima spiritia.

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

That's Basara and his crew.

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

Anima spiritia isn't the same as fold receptors.

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

7 Walkure
Freyja
mikumo
Kaname
Reina
Makina
Heinz
Bogue

Samuel Butler
Samuel Butler

Maybe Hayate will sing. He sang in the manga didn't he?

Levi Evans
Levi Evans

So in other words Heinz and Freyja will have to team up to take down Mikumo. That EXPLAINS why Mikumo resonates with them.

Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

*62位/*68位 (**6,793 pt) [*,*14予約] 16/09/27 マクロスΔ 03 [Macross Delta 03] (特装限定版) [Blu-ray]

The effect of the Walkure's event ticket for the 2nd concert in January.
It seems Walkure is more popular than the actual show.

Jose Hill
Jose Hill

But still they have the sound system to amplify fold waves. The only way to explain Basara have fold receptors is in the movie where he literally sang and bridge muh understanding with space whales

Oliver Lee
Oliver Lee

I don't remember but he sang the runepika song in the radio.

Andrew Wright
Andrew Wright

Yes, Windies are peerless as pilots too. In short, they were too OP so they nerfed them with the lifespan.

David Richardson
David Richardson

Walkure are the face of Delta, that's the reason why pilot character got shafted.

Samuel Diaz
Samuel Diaz

But past macross idols have no fold receptors
Did you watch Zero, she maybe just like Heizn a descendant from a Star singer.

David Perez
David Perez

He sang runepika!?! I need a link or something!

Isaac Harris
Isaac Harris

*Sara Nome

Samuel Nguyen
Samuel Nguyen

Because the current situation happened because the predecessors did a shitty job. Specially Sheryl and Ranka who were unable to persuade the Vajra to stay so we had Var as result.

Ian Gonzalez
Ian Gonzalez

Yes, please. Thematically it would even make sense.

Cameron Lee
Cameron Lee

Why if end game lifespan of windies were fixed?

Julian Morgan
Julian Morgan

Sara and Keith share a connection in the video game, so they are likely distantly related or Shin is getting cucked.

Dominic Gomez
Dominic Gomez

going to a Walkure concert
These poor people. Their ears. Should stick to the CDs, those sound really good.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

youtu.be/2RkbOxokjIo?t=4m49s

Samuel Flores
Samuel Flores

Idolfags are the lowest lifeform, user.

Thomas White
Thomas White

We don't know if it's getting 'fixed', it could be just that Heinz and Freyja will be age more naturally as their people are supposed to do.

Anyway, Mikumo is their mother figure now. The wind singers are officially descendants of her original self.

Andrew Carter
Andrew Carter

Sheryl and Ranka were the faces of Frontier too. No one gave a shit about Alto.

Luis Morales
Luis Morales

They need to fix the crusty flake skin at least. It's clearly not part of their natural aging process probably has to do with fold waves.

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

It's because they were too OP, they put the limiter.

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

I'm convinced this will get a third cour or a movie because there's nothing to end on right now.

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

This kid....

James Hill
James Hill

but he sang the runepika song in the radio.
Singing delta 5 when?
youtube.com/watch?v=_bDMUmx9slQ

Luke Parker
Luke Parker

The current situation happened because Galaxy fleet toyed with powers beyond their understanding, committed widescale conspiracy ranging from local revolt to rebellion against humankind, and instigated a catastrophic interstellar war which nearly resulted in the unjust genocide of an alien species.

If anything, the real culprit is that the Protoculture fleets and colonies have been given too much freedom to the point where rogue states are sowing widespread chaos and destruction across whole star systems. Strong central government needs to rein in all the planetary states and fleets before more damage is done to the dimension.

That would include a general call to arms to assemble a coalition fleet to destroy the Windermere kingdom and subjugate it's people.

Joshua Peterson
Joshua Peterson

My SMS wingman.

Zachary Ortiz
Zachary Ortiz

second cour is mostly filler, infodumps and nothing happens
third cour
Not gonna happen.

Noah Clark
Noah Clark

what happened to the macross 7 fleet after dynamite

Kayden White
Kayden White

No, Roid, your starsinger is in another macross

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

another macross
Hopefully, they will get rid of this "tradition" bullshit with the next macross.

Sebastian Cook
Sebastian Cook

all you wanted to be is a Space Marine
still no mod where settlers use power armor and keep using it without leaving

Cooper King
Cooper King

No

Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

I'd honestly just get rid of the love triangle. Love triangles have never actually been fair in Macross, except DYRL.

Blake Bennett
Blake Bennett

Tradition is what made Macross the franchise it was, fuck off newfag.

Josiah King
Josiah King

Can Macross survive Delta?

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Incredible

Gavin Hernandez
Gavin Hernandez

who fukin care?

Thomas Martin
Thomas Martin

Event ticket volumes always sell 1.2 to 1.5 times more than usual Cred Forumsnon.
This time it is most likely the ticket resellers who are purchasing the volume so they can resell at ten times the original price.

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