Why does Cred Forums hate sword art online so much?

David Barnes
David Barnes

Why does Cred Forums hate sword art online so much?

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Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

It's stupid.
It sucks.
And I hate it.

Brody Morris
Brody Morris

Because its dogshit.

Elijah Thomas
Elijah Thomas

It's stupid.
It sucks.
And We hate it.

Cooper Morales
Cooper Morales

because it dropped the 1 thing it had going for it halfway through the 1st season.

Like, jesus christ, you can't just skip 30 floors and get out of the game! why would they do that? it was actually kind of good up until then! it was like a sort of worse log horizon!

David Long
David Long

There were some bad parts but I legitimately liked the first arc and the sister incest was entertaining

Carson James
Carson James

Because it's a really popular normalfag anime, and it has so many flaws, it's easy to pick apart if you set your mind to it.

Just judging it on it's own merits though, it's "Alright" desu. The problem is it attracts a hugely cancerous fanbase.

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

incest
good
ever

Adam Morgan
Adam Morgan

The problem is it attracts a hugely cancerous fanbase.

This.

Levi Diaz
Levi Diaz

First half of S01 was good, but after that it made a hard 180 and started to push a "bad/forced romance" down the throat on everyone.
After that "game aspect" become more of an after-tought

Ian Cox
Ian Cox

It's boring, I dropped it seven episodes in.

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

"Cred Forums" doesn't hate it. Some people in Cred Forums do, some people don't. The general opinion is about a 50/50 split between "it's shit" and "the first arc was pretty good but the second arc was utter dogshit".

Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

/thread

Cameron Ward
Cameron Ward

Cred Forums liked it at first. But than it got popular

Henry Ortiz
Henry Ortiz

Do we really need millionth thread of anons making themselves feel smarter by repeating the same criticisms which have been said many times before.

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Wasted potential for a solid plot given a compelling setting.
A boring Gary Stu for an MC among of cast of forgettable characters
Immensely popular anime despite these major problems

Basic recipe for an elitist site to hate

Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

Its shit
Cancerous normalfag fanbase
The first ep (and premise in general) had so much potential, so many different themes to explore, but the anime ended up shitting all over itself, degrading into wish fulfilment haremshit with shit writing.

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

because Cred Forums only likes moe garbage

re:zero is exactly as shitty as soa, yet everyone here has a boner for it

David Jones
David Jones

Season 3 announced at the Dengeki Autumn Festival this Sunday?

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

Shit zero is a small fry compared to SAO.

Austin Cox
Austin Cox

I like it.

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

its completely fucking retarded, even on the low standards i already have of series considering i watch terrible shit all the damn time.
its just such shit, its not even so bad its good, its just straight up shit, the author had no clue what in the actual fuck he was doing, the fanbase is cancer, and kirito needs to eat a dick and die, the fact this shit got as popular as it did is just a dark stain on humanity as a whole.

Blake Gomez
Blake Gomez

it's basically copy paste, only the world in re:zero is real, the MC is weak and the villain is a little more interesting. but of course it has maids and tiny kawaii magicians so Cred Forums gets a boner for it.

emilia is basically an asuna reskin, that's how lazy LN authors are getting

Cooper Morales
Cooper Morales

Why do people need to bump this thread holy shit

Parker Murphy
Parker Murphy

Dull animation. Yet another fucking series about nip teens being heroic. Yet another fucking series about MMOs becoming reality.

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

The only MMO series I've seen are Overlord and Konosuba. How does SAO compare? It always looked really fucking stupid so I never watched it.

John Walker
John Walker

because they are idiots

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

It replaces fighting bosses and leveling up with a tsundere hottie who inexplicably in love with the beta male mc romance plot.

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

Keep it that way user.

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

It's mediocre but praised among normies as if it was the best thing ever.
The MC is a fucking detestable Mary Sue.

Adrian Johnson
Adrian Johnson

The MC is a fucking detestable Mary Sue.

So you'd rather self-insert as some beta cuck like the one in rezero

Adrian Miller
Adrian Miller

Because it's popular like Naruto AND the content is shit.

Ayden Thomas
Ayden Thomas

First half is a complete jumbled mess with several episodes completely unrelated to each other
Main character is a boring Mary Sue who never goes through any real struggle or learning experience throughout the entire show
Most of the rest of the cast are complete boring assholes
Some cringeworthy love triangle is needlessly introduced in a show that never fucking needed it.

Christian Perez
Christian Perez

Because for one, it didn't know what it was trying to do with it's story.

And two, the plot and characterization was so damn out of place that everything made no sense.

Fantasy, yes, but it still has to have something real to hold on to, to at least make sense.

The moment Kirito saved Yui was the moment that SAO lost EVERYTHING.

Everything about that sequence was so stupid as hell that it was pretty damn obvious people only liked it because of the girls.

Jaxson Martin
Jaxson Martin

I prefer to have a protagonist that is actually having a relatable personality instead want a plank of wood with some basic behavioral that is meant be self inset fantasy for 14 year old

Ryder Sanders
Ryder Sanders

There's no point in having a mild-mannered opinion around here, so everyone just naturally gravitates to one side if the spectrum.

If you were to start a thread where everyone just agreed that Rei and Asuka are both good in their own way, it:s pointless. You already agree at the outset.

We all know both Rei and Asuka are good girls, but we are here to fight, so that's just how it will always go.

Same with swordart. It was just okay.

Leo Watson
Leo Watson

pretty damn obvious people only liked it because of the girls.
But why?

All of the girls were fucking annoying and bland.

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

I hate it because of the ending. He fucking DIED, and then
Muh power of love
To ass-pull a win that meant he would live on.
Also forced romance
the world itself is kick-ass tho

Hudson Cooper
Hudson Cooper

nobody cares about sao, its place have long been taken by overlord.

Benjamin Hughes
Benjamin Hughes

People who were here for the threads almost universally hate it. Even the first arc went off the rails once they started playing house.

People that came later are split.

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

We don't, we hate the fanbase.
Also glop glop motherfucker.

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

self insert bait. shit writing that manages to get worse with time.

William Torres
William Torres

Because it sucks

Kevin Smith
Kevin Smith

TWO YEARS OF GLOPPING SOUND

Brody Collins
Brody Collins

This, we also don't hate Naruto or SnK just their fanbase. Now newfags need to stop asking why do we hate certain shows.

Cameron Edwards
Cameron Edwards

First 25~ episodes are shit, save for a select few. Boring Gary Stu MC who solves all the world's problems with ass pulls and "willpower." Mary Sue love interest who acts tsundere at first but then is magically all over the MC's dick out of nowhere. Stupid incest love triangle. Fairies. Etc.

GGO was the only 'good' thing to come out of the anime. Less retarded side characters, decent plot, heroine who is likeable and isn't a Mary Sue, decent OST.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Just make Kirito a sarcastic misanthrope and the show becomes much better.

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

I want to protect this smile.

Gavin Myers
Gavin Myers

people who were here for the threads
you faggots hyped this shit up as the saviour of anime, don't tell lies on the internet

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

It's really bad. Good only for the absolute lowest common denominator

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

I don't know how you fucks were able to suspend disbelief when Kirito suddenly is a "SUPER HACKER" in saving Yui instead of FUCKING SAVING EVERYONE FROM THE THAT WORLD.

He fucking hacked an unknown system within fucking seconds to save an A.I.

WOW.

Josiah Lee
Josiah Lee

Even the first arc went off the rails once they started playing house.

Fuck I remember threads about this bullshit, what a time to be alive.

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

Asspulling is his main skill. Didn't you know this, user?

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

Actually anything before that moment was believable in a sense.

The moment that happened, everything built up by the series was just gone. Totally. Nothing could save the series after that.

It was that moment everyone should have known that Kirito will asspull from anything.

Onii-sama is more believable than this shit.

Landon Robinson
Landon Robinson

7 years of semen etc

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

To me it's biggest offense is that it took a cool premise with a lot of potential and ruined it with bland characters that for no reason are the most important ones in the universe and a predictable story arc. It had it's moments of brilliance but those only ended up highlighting just how bad everything else around those were. Almost every episode taunts the viewer with how much better it could have been.

Eli King
Eli King

Nothing beats the part where he overrides the game and kills Heathcliff in one fell swoop.

Also, don't forget how Asuna somehow got up and ran over to jump in front of Kirito when she was paralyzed by the fucking head admin of the game.

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

The anime portrayed that poorly.

What really happened is that when you 'die', there's a brief period as your character gets deleted. During this period, Kirito was so sanic fast that he managed to land in one hit before he 'died'.

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

More like season 0.

Progressive anime when?

Morning Dew Girl was a pretty shitty arc.

Asuna somehow got up and ran over to jump in front of Kirito when she was paralyzed
Biggest asspull of the series. in b4 Incarnation

Luis Ortiz
Luis Ortiz

the only thing i like about it is the dual wielding sword

it's done better than any other one, except EMIYA's dual wielding, probably

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

I have fapped to the female kirito gangrape doujin over 200 times so I think I can be trusted when I say, SAO isnt all bad.

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

I wanted to post a long rant on how bad it is, but it's not worth the effort. Sad part is, there's far worse garbage out there like the MuvLuv triology, better hope THAT never gets adapted.

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

PROTIP: It's not just Cred Forums that hates it

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

the MC is weak

You're understating just how significant of a difference this is in how both shows were received on Cred Forums.

The bulk of the problems that exist with SAO stem directly from Kirito's completely ridiculous overpowered bullshit and lack of any real characterization whatsoever. Subaru on the other hand is the what basically saves Re:Zero from being shit. You can have an entire thread with paragraphs of discussion devoted to talking about Subaru's character and hit the bump limit easily, while Kirito's entire design can literally be summed up with just a handful of words, "Self-insert Gary Stu."

Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

See. Asspull after asspull and still it's so popular that it's getting a western adaptation (?).

Wyatt Harris
Wyatt Harris

I love it. Singapoor represent!

Blake Ortiz
Blake Ortiz

99
Yes!

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

youtu.be/qZ9NlThB3SY

All you need to know

Dominic Hill
Dominic Hill

I want to pump that cameltoe full of sailormen.

Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

No, it was still bullshit because he was already dead.

Leo King
Leo King

B E S T W A I F U

Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

It's an ok anime, people here only hate it because it's popular among normalfags.

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

It's simple really. Cred Forums hates everything that is popular and even slightly mainstream. Not to say that SAO is good or anything, the first act of season one is only "ok" while the second act and pretty much everything after is pure dogshit.

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

Fucking hell no. It was a bad show, period.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

The way Subaru's character is developed is just as cheap as Gary Stu asspulls. The SUFFERING he went through never matched with his actions in any coherent way. This isn't just hating the MC because he's unlikeable, it's just that the show doesnt handle it properly. By the time he has his rant at Emilia, it just feels way over the top and unwarranted. And seeing people explain away these things as "that's the type of guy he is!" is frustrating because, yes, he is who he is and I shouldn't expect him to act like me. But it has to be somewhat coherent and the show jumps around so much that his character doesn't end up being any deeper or more complex than Kirito. They are pretty similar shows in that they are great for 10 episodes and then take a steep dive into the shitter.

Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

Pretty much this to be honest. Also normalfags who haven't even watched more than 3 anime in their life hail it like the second comming of jesus. Horribly overhyped. The extensive hate it receives on Cred Forums however is pretty much bullshit too

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

Because western audiences for the most part don't question how the main characters triumph over the big bad guys through asspulls . As long as the main cast prevails and good feelings are had.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

Subaru is a classic narcissist. His personality isn't unrealistic or inconsistent. His mishaps are frustrating in the same way another narcissist like Donald Trump can be frustrating when you know all he needs to do is let shit go sometimes, and not shoot himself in the foot and he'd cruise to an election win.

Jacob Thompson
Jacob Thompson

Let's put it this way. Kirito is bro who would watch your back.Truly an honorable Kuro swordsman. Honda is just a creepy stalker.

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

I hate Sword Art because its commercial success lead to every other anime trying to copy it. On its own merits, its just kind of shitty, but because it made a shit-zillion dollars its shittyness leaked into every other anime since.

People on Cred Forums say that the biggest problem with anime these days is the over-emphasis on Harems and every protagonist being a bland self-insert fantasy. and both of those things because ubiqutous because people were trying to duplicate Sword Art's success. Yes, those things both existed before Sword Art, but it was Sword Art that created the perception that they were things that let an anime print money.

In short, Sword Art ruined anime.

Dylan Adams
Dylan Adams

I hate Sword Art because its commercial success lead to every other anime trying to copy it

Name one other anime that copies SAO, and explain how it copies it.

You can't.

Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

Grimgar. It sucks.

Nicholas Hughes
Nicholas Hughes

If you haven't seen an anime or an LN with a Kirito Clone MC, you haven't seen an anime or LN in the last 5 years.

Lincoln Jackson
Lincoln Jackson

Shit shows + rabid fans.

Luis Wood
Luis Wood

Name
You can't

David Richardson
David Richardson

It was decent until everyone turned into elves.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

It's a combination of passionate hate towards bad anime and frustration about not understanding why people seem to love it so much.

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

How does it feel to go through life as an obnoxious contrarian? I could name 50 animes and LNs that copy Sword Art and I guarantee you'd sit there greentexting each one and smuggly rationalizing why they're not. I'm not going to play your game.

Protagonists that have the entire female cast fawning over them for no reason, that have either no personality or a personality that's intended to appeal to anti-social NEETs to facilitate self-insertion, and who's skill or knowledge in video games or other Otaku hobbies make them huge badasses in actual dangerous situations are ubiquitous in the medium, and its because of Sword Art. If you actually need a list to prove that, you're an idiot.

Ayden Cruz
Ayden Cruz

Feels pretty good that you can't even name one.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

t.anons who haven't watched it

Isaac Murphy
Isaac Murphy

t. newfag who loved it.

Next you're going to claim that Cred Forums didn't shit on it when it was airing.

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

Shut up, Grimgar was good.

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

I don't really think sao started all of that. While I agree with most of your analysis, I think that a lot of visual novels in specific have pandered to that type of demographic far before sao. I don't think sao has had much influence in Japan as you seem to think. The NEET culture didn't realize how great harem isekai is with sao. I think sao is shit because of its huge influence to the anime audience in foreign countries specifically the US. I think sao can be considered the trigger for the massive influx of casual anime watchers in the US.

Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

I liked some of the arcs, and cousin is best girl.

The only reason most of Cred Forums doesn't like it is because of the "it's for normalfags" meme and they want to be part of that cancerous Cred Forums culture that hates anything popular.

You can call them "hipsters"

Logan King
Logan King

anyone who likes something we don't is a newfag
fuck off.

Elijah Adams
Elijah Adams

Fine dickbag. 5 off the top of my head: Irregular at Magical High School, Is it Wrong To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon?, Accel World, Asterisk Wars and Chivalry of a Failed Knight all were clear attempts to cash in on Sword Art's success. Now play your little game where you cite tiny details that allow you to dismiss the obvious parallels and similarities.

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

I don't.

It's my guilty pleasure, and I hate myself for liking it.

I couldn't be more excited for the Alicization arc.

Carson Green
Carson Green

I actually just came back from living a year in Japan, so I'm pretty comfortable saying that Sword Art is a fairly large influence on the anime fandom there as well as here.

Anyway, my point was less about Sword Art as an artistic influence and more about it as a business influence. Sword Art didn't invent the tropes that have swamped over the industry of late, but it was such a financial juggernaut that various studios and creators couldn't help but want a piece of the pie. Its the same thing with Old TV Show Remake Movies these days, or Science Fiction after Star Wars back in the 80s. The anime industry found a well of money, and they're trying to pump it dry at the expense of innovation in the medium.

When people say Sword Art is "too mainstream," they're kind of right, but its more accurate to say that it made shitty genre tropes mainstream. It delivered them in a way that the mainstream audience could swallow, and thus made them normalized, and that trickled down to a LOT of other products.

Gabriel Smith
Gabriel Smith

They are though. I already explained this isn't a matter of a frustrating but well written character. And not to mention all of this is tied together because "I want to stand by Emilia", a girl he met in the streets. His actions aren't motivated by anything except a reason to advance to the next plot point. There isn't any development or logical string of choices, just "Subaru acts rashly".

It would be fine if after the outburst at Emilia and having her cut ties with him, that he starts to realize the consequences his attitude brought about. But instead it just takes a 180 into "Emilia in danger again!" And somehow Subaru's development gets replaced by rem dying a few times with one being extremely gruesome. So what is the point? If it's that Subaru's actions cause others to suffer, and he really is just a narcissist with good intentions, then re:zero is about how you shouldn't be self absorbed or everyone you come close to will die a horrible death?

The fact is the show isn't trying to say anything by showing Subaru's despair. It's just the plot for an isekai adaptation the same way SAO an isekai adaptation. It's not his sole fault as a character, it's just that the show is so busy fitting in arcs that it forgets the most important one. The part where Subaru learns a valuable lesson. If they really wanted to give appropriate consequences and not just shounen edge, they would have Emilia be in no danger after she cut ties with him. Everyone just gets along fine without him and he has to deal with that reality. That would be a shock to his character and he would be confronted with a hard truth. Having Rems body get mutilated because Subaru was stupid doesn't teach him anything since he still has to save the day in the end anyway.

Ian Wilson
Ian Wilson

Or simply because it's retarded.

Jace Hall
Jace Hall

First 10 were good. When he came to the real world it sucked shit. The incest made me cringe hard.

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Kirito is a moralfag who wins through love and asspulls, in real life I wouldn't trust either to protect me.

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

His obsession over Emilia developed because when he first entered the world, he was thought, "Oh so this cute girl just saved me, she must be the heroine that falls for me." It just got so ingrained in him that Emilia was the girl he needed to pursue, that it manifested in to love even after he stopped treating the world like it was a video game.

During Act 2, Subaru and Emilia actually spent an enormous amount of time together at the mansion. It doesn't feel that way to the audience, but he was there long enough to learn how to write and read a new language. People have fallen in love in less time before.

Also, it's not like Subaru has never wavered in the idea of whether it's worth it to pursue Emilia. He does so at least twice. The Cliff suicide scene especially tried to nail this point home. He was really considering giving up.

Ryan Reed
Ryan Reed

Which points are untrue, user?
Cancerous fanbase
It is mediocre

My opinion is that it went to shit because of the self insert power fantasy which evades the better points of the premise, and that the fans who spam threads for this mediocre show are part of a cancerous fanbase.

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

Because it has literally nothing going for it. You can't even self-insert for christs sake. Those who do are probably lowest of the low.

When the 'I watch only good animu with gud writing' and the 'I watch animu only to be entertained' crowd all hated it what is there to be surprised about?

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

Digibro made a five part series on it. Although they don't admit it, Cred Forums pretty much worships Digibro.

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

Cred Forums complains about normal fags
yet watch reviews

wew

Camden Rogers
Camden Rogers

Only gullible moefags worship him

Jose Young
Jose Young

Don't need reviews to tell that SAO is like a crappy fanfic.

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

youtube.com/watch?v=s1X2b0kq9EE&feature=share

Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

anime reviews
anime reviews on youtube

This is a whole other level of autism. I can't believe this is a thing.

Ryder Taylor
Ryder Taylor

some random crossboarder say Cred Forums watch reviewers
holy shit it must be true lmao Cred Forums btfo

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

Too much sex. Too much harem. Too much gary stu. Kirito and asuna are the only ones that override system rules and refuse to explode into particles and die in real life after their hp reaches 0. Started off good but it's flaws really punched me in the gut every time.

Kayden Diaz
Kayden Diaz

I liked the music themes and GGO arc for the over the top shit.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

It's not too offensive on it's own. I just don't like it.

I hate it for making a shitty sub-genre of anime popular.

Alexander Cruz
Alexander Cruz

There is never such a thing as too much sex.

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

Too much sex. Too much harem.

Get a load of this massive fag.

Thomas Price
Thomas Price

youtube.com/watch?v=MZ89WDvQMbs
Rove is justice, user.