Gun ownership cannot stop government tyranny

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it would actually be pretty easy for a small coordinated group of guerilla fighters to disrupt supply lines to cities. once people in the cities start starving, they will change their politics pretty quick.

>that one war where frogs had to save murica,and they act like it all thanks to themselves alone, and the didn't help the french.

>Maybe your phone is tapped. Maybe your internet is monitored. They got programs now, all they have to do is look for key words. They have algorithms to track purchases and movements, so if you're doing anything suspicious, you could be flagged.

You get an A for effort faggot.
>FBI missed this guy.

Anti 2A thread#62
No, but a gun can stop a nigger from stealing my TV

Have you see the uprising during the Bundy standoff? and that's was only about taxes
imagine what will happen if the fed kills a Texan in order to grab his guns.
Armed citizens outnumber 8:1 the entire US army
See pic related. What the pentagon think about how a civil war will go.

Ragheads in the Middle East are doing good so I'm sure we could fight

Ha, the police can't even stop a school shooter.

Shove your threats up your ass, you son of a whore.

When they bust down 5 doors in 1 neighborhood, and 8 of those SWAT team members are shot and injured, who replaces them to continue confiscation?

this

chinks took over a military base in SC. the government surrounded a gated community oof chinks . fired tear gas into it and rubber bullets injuring some kid . they took over the biggest military base on this side of the country. they didnt even number 500

i think you think to much of what the american government is capable of. right now you could storm dc and there isnt a lot they could do. you could take over any military base with minimal effort. the mexicans took one over one in cali shortly after the chinks took one over

blind faith in the power of the military is outdated

where and when was this

post sources

everything you described sounds like a perfect reason to always be armed and ready to resist the government.

>I don't think there's any point to resisting a tyrannical government, so you should just lie down and let them kill you as they wish
Genetic dead-end.

>incompetent government bureaucrats looking to do the bare minimum to collect pensions and poorly trained fatbody cops are going to suppress an angry population that outnumbers them 100000 to 1
Wow really stirs my macaroni you cock sucking faggot.

Wolverines mothahfucka

>1 post by this ID
SAGE in all fields, you retarded fucks.

>the announcement is made
>in the same night, hundreds of assassination attempts are made on congressmen, celebrities, media talking heads
>the next day a few police departments, and the FBI's few thousand field agents, are still dumb enough to stack up teams at the doors of a few hundred gun owners' homes, out of the hundred million households that have them
>they win 30% of the time
>the next day their families are hung, shot, burned to death
>the military gets involved to attempt to restore order
>oops 40% of the military is now rogue; special forces, delta, seals, intelligence agencies attached to the army and the air force, and a tiny part of the CIA
>absolute shitshow
>the gunless faggot who sits at coffeeshops with his macbook shitposting on Cred Forums thinks he's made of the type of material to survive this
>he thinks after its over his kind, not the most violent and ruthless gun fanatics in and out of the government, will be the ones to create the new government
blindingly stupid.

>1 post by this id
liberal bots have been at it all day.

who even says all cops would enforce a confiscation? Most surveys show that both sheriffs and regular officers don't plan on enforcing a confiscation law on otherwise law abiding citizens and most states won't even try to take guns from you if you're a felon unless you've committed a new crime.

In addition to Wolverines MothahFucka.
We will cold bloodedly murder every known communist, every newspaper, television reporter or employee down to delivery drivers. We know wherw every cop lives, every judge, every jailer, the ladies who make the lunches, the guys who fix the cop cars. In addition to that dipshit, we built the roads, the bridges, powerplants, power lines, the buildings, we drive the trucks, we fix the a/c the plumbing. We grow the food. We will end you. You exist only because we have not decided fuck it.
Push us till we say fuck it and you will get your orgy of violence. Stupid fuckin twat commie.

>You honestly think the government can resist a citizenry determined to remove it?Here's how it works. We'll show up at their homes. Or We'll get them on theirr way to work, or coming back from work. Or there's going to be no knock on their door in the middle of the night. If they resist, they'll just kill them . Then we'll kill their family. So yhry'll go along, and if thry're lucky, they'll be allowed to go home eventually. If thry're lucky, it's an official visit. If thry're not, well then, it's going to be men in masks and fatigues, and if we're wearing badges or patches or insignia, they'll be covered up. There will be several of us, and we'll show up out of the blue, and they won't have time to be a hero. they'll get a hood over theirr head.There'll be rules and then there'll be consequences. If they know what's good for them, they'll obey the rules, and they won't be bothered. If theirr neighbor makes trouble, well, safest for them to rat him out, so wedon't think thry're involved. they'll start worrying about what they say and who they say it to. After all, anyone might rat them out. So they'll be careful.Maybe their phone is tapped. Maybe their internet is monitored. We got programs now, all wehave to do is look for key words. We have algorithms to track purchases and movements, so if they're doing anything suspicious, they could be flagged. We might have a file on them. We've got a file on everyone.So, they're just going to be a good little boy. And they're not going to make any trouble. And everything is going to be fine.That's how it works.Josef Stalin fantasies are bullshit.

This is a pointless thought experiment. The purpose of which is demoralization.

Can we use guns to stop a government that has tactical nukes and biological warfare at its disposal? Not necessarily.

Forget "muh drones." Imagine that the government releases a plague, and administers the antidote to its supporters. The technology for this exists. Leftists like to claim that the will to use such tactics on a civilian populace ALSO exists.

But one thing is being forgotten here. Some of us would rather die free than live as slaves. Go ahead, spread the diseases. Send drones to spray the land with chemicals. Destroy us. Fucking do it, you unscrupulous monsters. At least I'll die knowing I did the right thing; even if it were to be the ONLY right thing I do.

Suck it, progressive fascist scum. You want fascism? Then I'll be all the more sure to support the NatSoc variety.

Nice trips chollo. Nah but we did get alot of frog help, that's why we'll keep invading yurop to stop germany from taking them over even tho germany is bro tier. We owe them our existence so I guess we gotta preserve theirs. But TBF in public school even they drill into your head that the french made it possible. We know it.

Top kek, I'd be amazed if even half of police officers in the country would be willing to go door to door collecting guns from otherwise law abiding gun owners.

Most cops/soldiers etc are somewhat redpilled /ourguys/

This relies on the complacency of the People.

I agree that it's likely most wouldn't and even the ones that would would reconsider quickly after they start hearing about the cops catching bullets from the NRA Gold Plus members who had too many "cold dead hands" bumper stickers to not follow through. If the police loved kicking doors as much as they claim we would've won the war on drugs decades ago.

Never happened, nor would it

Never let anyone tell you your not the hero Cred Forums deserves.

Or maybe the FBI didn't miss him and let him do his thing to gain more support on gun control.

actually just for reference california is the only state I know of that has a dedicated confiscation for an they only go after known felons and their guns because they can't keep up. Its to dangerous to go when people are at the house so they have to try and time it right but every year the maybe 10,000 raids they make another 10,000 people are put on the list. The unit is less than 50 people and costs $24 million for essentially a net zero result on safe raids.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/05/05/california-discovers-its-really-expensive-to-confiscate-peoples-guns/?utm_term=.6349de72d355

>Police are pro 2A
>This fucking retarded
All law enforcement in this country is anti-2A. LEOs without fail enforce unconstitutional firearms regulations. All laws which prevent someone from possessing a firearm (even temporarily such as with waiting periods) are anti-2A. The passage of such laws, the 'ruling' that such laws are constitutional, and the enforcement of such laws are all acts of treason. Every single pig who has ever enforced a gun law deserves the rope.

Nice fantasy, OP. Maybe you are thinking of a different country, but your scenario won't play out in the U.S.
WHY?
Cause the military would have to roll out to make any of that happen, and the U.S. Military is pro-constitution, pro-2nd amendment, pro-Liberty. So essentially you don't have a force large enough to enact your dream scenario, and any other force trying to do what you are claiming will be met with the full smack down of our Armed Forces.
Nice LARP, OP. Go back to school.

Bring it. Everything you said goes both ways :)

Now lets look at how this might play out when guns have to be removed nationally. First the buy back programs start and even people who comply and gonna need reasonable compensation, i mean whose gonna trade in a $600 sig for a $100 buy back? so maybe $500 average on the majority of the 300 million guns, lets say 250 million is 10 billion to start with. Plus you would then need a massive program to make sure you round up straggler weapons, even if all legal guns are turned in you have to double check everyone for compliance so another couple million. You have find hundreds of cops to do the legwork. And all for maybe a net neutral result, maybe.

What's the US government's record of pacifying domestic insurrections? Do they win 50% of the time? Two-thirds? One-quarter?

The US federal government has a perfect fucking record at putting down armed rebellions within it's borders. The Wiskey Rebellion, Civil War, and various actions against native tribes all ended in the government's favor, despite the rebels being far more comparably equipped with the givernmebt than any civilian could ever be today.

The idea that the second amendment is some kind of insurance policy against tyranny is completely laughable. The fact that so many on the right seem to view all these dead kids as a perfectly acceptable price to maintain that fantasy is disgusting.

>if you resist, they'll kill you

No shit user. None of us live forever. Die fighting like a man for your kids future. That's what will separate us from the baby boomers.

>Gun ownership cannot stop government tyranny

This is so wrong. Without the 2nd amendment, America would
>have a corporate-owned Congress
>have no access to health care
>send their soldiers to die for Israeli interests
>send their soldiers to die for the interests of the military-industrial complex
>have no minimum wage
>have no worker's rights
>have massive inequality
>have insane crime rates
>have literally zero social cohesion

You have to be blind not to see that guns do work.

You forget to mention that each of those "rebellions" were very small, and massively outnumbered by the military. They won't do as well when they themselves are massively outnumbered. You aren't very smart, why don't you go back to the Huff Po, we do not welcome idiots here.

Why the fuck does nobody remember vietnam?

And yet the most powerful military in the world got its ass kick by gooks in rice pattys with AKs, then by rag heads in the desert with AKs. Small arms resistance works.

you're making an argument for why not to give up weapons.

But there wasn't mass media today. You couldn't see the government slaughtering people at the time and never had to question whether what the government was doing right since the newspaper told you it was. How could CNN play off the fact that at best every year our prisons are being filled with more and more former gun owners and that everyone is having to pay for them. People are conflicted on deportation for drunk driving, how are they gonna feel about years in prison for owning an heirloom?

You are correct that the US has put down every attempt at insurrection. That was against an organized foe who actually put an army in the field against the full force of the US government. What people are talking about now is lone wolf asymmetric warfare, targeted assassinations, and terrorist tactics. Completely different scenarios.

>The Wiskey Rebellion
You mean the rebellion that resulted in the president not being re-elected and the next president immediately repealing the whiskey tax?

The entirety of the US supply chain is fragile as fuck if you really sit down and think about it. If the government is intent on ruining the lives of gun owners by kicking down their doors at night, shooting their dogs, and throwing them in jail they better be ready for a massive blowback of pissed off Americans bombing police stations, banks, fuel refineries, bridges, etc.

Any massive disruption in goods & services across the united states there would be a full on revolution and all for what? Bunch of fucking kids got shoot up in a school? Yeah I think the government is playing a winning hand by doing jack shit about taking our guns a2ay.

Whatever, dude. Saddam Hussein lasted 24 years. Well armed citizenry did nothing and made no difference. The key to democracy is keeping it. Not indulging John Wayne fantasies about how you'd get it back. The Civil Rights movement was not an armed insurrection, it was people making peaceful change happen. The guys with the guns weren't making the world better, they were the ones shooting activists.

Let's say they go in with a 5 man SWAT team to put down the uprising and take away the guns. These are very heavily armed citizens, and are fighting to the death to prevent their rights from being eroded. That's going to be about half the country. This includes the young, the weak, the women, and the old, as they too will fight for their rights. That's about 126,000,000 households they must raid to get all the guns (that they know about).

Let's say they're able to clear 10 houses for every one man they lose in the cross fire. They will need 12,600,000 trained SWAT, willing to go in and risk their lives to do that. Against their own interest. Even if we assume ZERO police turn coat, and 100% of them are up to do this suicide mission, you need 12,600,000 of them. 12.6 million SWAT.

There are 1.1 million total police of all kinds throughout the entire country. This includes the desk jockeys, ticket writers, pencil pushers, etc. Not the SWAT. You will run out of men before you clear 5% of the homes with guns.

Taking them is impossible.

This is obvious. The gov. also despises the 3A and 4A. The point of the 2A is that their force can be met by your force.
Of course, in a perfect society, you'd be able to sue the NSA and win.

Oh yes they can, think how much money, resources, and life has been drained by illiterate peasants with rifles from the 80's?

You could win a war with stones if you had the willpower, and willpower with weapons is even better.

This, Cred Forums is full of delusional kids who have no idea what they're talking about. Literal delusions of grandeur

>You honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?
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Did you already forget about the Ukraine?
I didn't,
thanks for the tutorial Soros.

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youtube.com/watch?v=7eTuFAR169s

>tactical nukes
A literal non-factor. No one wants to rule a nation of corpses.
>biological warfare
See above.

If anything, it'll be urban pacification when the cities riot because urban youths will violate curfew and it'll impede their civil liberties because "ay fuk u wite boi", and the left is thrown into yet another tizzy.

what the fuck are you talking about Malcolm X specifically talked about how there was a need for arms to protect against the people you're talking about fighting the activists. Do you honestly believe the entire civil rights movement was just MLK and rosa parks? It was a massive movement that was backed even by many government officials and politicians. Oh and guns were used when escorting the Little Rock kids to desegregate schools.

It can hardly compete with Stingers and F16s but it is enough to make it economically irrational to try to enslave the people like in certain European countries a bit further north

Now give me a domestic example.

Right. There is none.

Or, I keep my AR out 24/7, have an alarm to awaken me, only sleep 5 hours at random times, and can activate John Wayne mode in 6 seconds and make some widows. If I make 4-5 widows to my one, I win. Game on.

>mass killings to prevent mass killings
gtfo

>The idea that the second amendment is some kind of insurance policy against tyranny is completely laughable.
How can you be so fucking stupid? Seriously, how?
The 3A, the 4A, and the 5A were specifically contrived to prevent tyranny and a police state (esp. the 3A in the case of the latter). Yet the 2A has nothing to do with tyranny?
For those of us that have state constitutions with 2A type provisions, the necessity of the populace being as armed as the military (so as to make the military subservient to the "civil authority") is cited verbatim.

God, I hate the descendants of late 19th century immigrants so fucking much. Please, just go back. You don't belong on this continent. You don't support anything we're founded on. Just leave. Leave now.

It's almost as if we haven't been in Afghanistan for 17 years. Wow great point!

My only response is Cliven Bundy. You can throw out any opinion you want about the man, but you can't say the 2nd amendment didn't work.
And to top it off, an American jury through the feds case out.
Small arms resistance works.

There aren't enough gun grabbers to stop what would happen.

eia.gov/state/maps.php

Vietnam,Afghanistan,Iraq

>lets just say your delusional fantasies are correct and that everyone just gives up their weapons like a bunch of cucks. You have now created an exact turner diaries situation where the internet exists. you'll see thousand of timothy mcveighs deciding to vaporize their nearest government building.
>but it won't get to that point. we've seen what happens even with the bundy standoff. people won't stand for it. if the cops try and seize people's shit all at once it'l be all over facebook and twitter within seconds and half the country will ready to open fire from their window.
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Those feds didnt do shit because when it comes down to it alphabet agents dont give a fuck about the citizenry, liberty or honor.
All they care about is coffee breaks, their benefits package, the easiest way to cheat on their FEMA test and their pension that's waiting for them at the end of their career. They are not going to die because someone in Congress doesnt like guns. In fact there are some who might twist a knee pursuing you into the woods and have to give up the chase.

Complete fantasy.

When the government stops caring about public opinion, then what? Your guns mean nothing then.

>Imagine that the government releases a plague, and administers the antidote to its supporters.
>how to start ww3

well at that point, when the government stops giving a shit about who they kill or why or what us plebs think about it everyone loses. Nothing would matter at that point because who is to say that you aren't next for using a horrible hate board like Cred Forums. Whose to say the don't just start killing anyone who disagrees? Just like in OP i don't understand how that is an acceptable situation.

Lets do a though experiment here. The only form of tyranny that will realistically be resisted violently is a sudden third reich/USSR style power grab by the government. But even in such a situation there would be legislative proposals or executive orders that need to go into effect first. With the former, there will be lengthy debate and freedom fighters have time to prepare, while with the later, it still takes some time for an executive order to actually be executed by the respective agencies. So all in all, freedom fighters and patriots will have plenty of time to prepare and might even be already organised and pumped up due to preceding political organizing.

There are about 40 federal law enforcement officers for every 100 000 citizens in the US. So even if they manage to mobilize all 120 000 of them, they still need to disarm about 1000 people without a single casualty or else it won't work out numerically (50% gun ownership rate as an approximation), even if they all were 100% willing to die for the cause.

>they will just send in the army

Is not a valid argument. First and foremost, because most members of the armed forces are pro 2A and pro constitution in general, which would result in large scale defections of not just men, but also their assigned heavy weaponry (tanks planes etc). Secondly, said act would be a major violation of posse commitatus and would drive even more people to support the rebellion, maybe even among foreign nations and their people, since the prohibition on the use of the military as an internal police force is a centerpiece of the modern western liberal form of government.

A government that tried to disarm the US citizenry would ultimately be up against not just gun owners, but veterans, defected police/military and even foreign fighters. In addition, the government doesn't just need to win in the classical sense of winning a war, but it also needs to preserve the nation itself in the process.

Well then it's over already. You can't govern like that.

>>Imagine that the government releases a plague, and administers the antidote to its supporters.
>>how to start ww3
Imagine giving the Russians a reason to land cargo planes in Texas to provide "humanitarian support".

As soon as dead kids and Americans getting drone striked starts appearing on CNN the government might as well just give up because every soldier, cop, government with a conscious would defect and join the rebellion.

Vietnam
Afghanistan.
Countless insurgencies that have warded of states.

Much like nukes the arms are conjectural. Just as nukes hopefully stay in silos so to the guns simply just be used on paper targets.

Imagine the Russians arming anti government groups right now, the way the CIA does to other countries. Who's saying they aren't. Vegas shooter could have easily been an foreign agent and the FBI would make sure you never knew.

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I'd like to think you're right, but cops and feds have no honor.

How does your right to own guns prevent that tyranny from arising.

If it doesn't, then how does that justify keeping guns when piles of dead children is a consequence

It's not like the US military lost a war to a bunch of under equpied slant eyed rice farmers. And spent ten plus years in the middle East accomplishing nothing worthwhile while sustaining heavy losses. You fucking inbred mong. There is a reason why guerilla warfare is successful.

Bad news for you donkey man.

Government isn’t going to use bombs and tanks on US civilians in US soil. I practically had to suck the area commander’s dick to get clearance to drop a 500lb JDAM on a confirmed goat fucking terrorist camp in the middle of shithole nowhere Afghanistan.

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan proved the US government isn’t going to do what is necessary to beat an insurgency. I know. I was there for 2 of them unlike you needledick.

US has hundreds of thousands of disgruntled combat vets with guns and training that spent the better part of their early 20’s conducting COIN operations in the Middle East. We know how the government and military responds to insurgencies and we know how to fight like guerillas and insurgents.

Best part is, many of us also have experience with FID operations so we will have no problem training Bubba and Cletus to kill you.

You should be scared. Civil wars are always bloody and brutal.

as if all police departments collectively have the same view they. Same with individual policemen .

Im not gonna lie, you're right. This generation is weak as hell. But I assume everyone is looking at guns as a complete last resort. No one wants to put down their own countrymen, but as a last ditch defense I'd like to think Americans will.

Yep. Instead of AR-15s and pipebombs you'd see AK, PKMs, RPG-7s, and Symtex explosives. You'd also see Spetnaz helping train the rebels and coordinate a viable resistance.

>posts red team screencap
this user gets it
>Whatever, dude.
kek
classic response of the loser.
>how does that justify keeping guns when piles of dead children is a consequence
You're not even trying, are you? When did you realize that you were completely out-classed by a mongolian throat singing forum?

You honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?

Here's how it works. They'll show up at your workplace. Or they'll get you on your way to work, or coming back from work. Or there's going to be a knock on your door in the middle of the night. If you resist, they'll just kill you. Then they'll kill your family. So you'll go along, and if you're lucky, you'll be allowed to go home eventually. If you're lucky, it's an official visit. If you're not, well then, it's going to be men in masks and fatigues, and if they're wearing badges or patches or insignia, they'll be covered up. There will be several of them, and they'll show up out of the blue, and you won't have time to be a hero. You'll get a hood over your head.

There'll be rules and then there'll be consequences. If you know what's good for you, you'll obey the rules, and you won't be bothered. If your neighbor makes trouble, well, safest for you to rat him out, so they don't think you're involved. You'll start worrying about what you say and who you say it to. After all, anyone might rat you out. So you'll be careful.

Maybe your phone is tapped. Maybe your internet is monitored. They got programs now, all they have to do is look for key words. They have algorithms to track purchases and movements, so if you're doing anything suspicious, you could be flagged. They might have a file on you. They've got a file on everyone.

So, you're just going to be a good little boy. And you're not going to make any trouble. And everything is going to be fine.

That's how it works.

John Wayne fantasies are bullshit.

And you'd like to live under such a "government"? It sometimes shocks me that there are human swine like you that exist. You're less than an animal, because at least an animal intuitively understands how to live in harmony and equilibrium with its environment.

It's intriguing to discover that creatures like you think you're good people or something. Or at least practice enough self-deceit to avoid the introspection that comes with being evil.

I digress...
Guns are severely limited, true. Their tactical use is somewhat specific. Guns alone won't halt great evil, that's when you step up your game to bombs, mortars, arson, ricin, anthrax, etc.

OR inversely, you get a community underground, because you realize that when you need these kinds of tactics to stop the government, the end is legitimately near, and you'll want to survive the fallout and the wanton hellscape on the surface. So instead of participating in it, do what the elites that are depopulating you and pitting you against one another do, and build underground like them.

yeah, that (((failed))) rebellion

>Best part is, many of us also have experience with FID operations so we will have no problem training Bubba and Cletus to kill you.
You could take all the teenagers and have them running ammo and MRE's to the front and digging fox holes. Plenty of non-com for the uninitiated.

Government starts acting tryranical:
we employ mercenaries to guard new free state
government has harder time trying to take state:
they go after non guarded territory first.
if all territory is guarded except for the tyrannical government, then we can close in on them without even starting a war:
if one state is open then we loose.
half of the war is more the potential risk factor vs/ the gain user.

it's that simple user.

haahha you clowns are hilarious. Police forces have no problem raiding your compound, arresting your asses, and having a prosecutor slap terrorism charges on you.
If you want to escalate it further, then expect a total loss.

>le far eastern foreign activity meme
Nice reddit post

The military is a small part of the nation's defense and the same goes for law enforcement. Unfortunately there is no social class structure separating the military/police from the public. The institutions are composed of people pulled from all over the country. The government will have a hard time turning on its people because the military would be fractured. The other great thing about the US is the separation of powers that exist between all levels of government. The government is fractured and divided so much that any cooperation between interests is impossible, just look how different intel agencies were fighting proxy battles among themselves in Syria.

Yup. Cops are niggers.

It literally succeeded though.

How's that working out for you in Afghanistan?

>If you want to escalate it further, then expect a total loss.
Of what? Tax revenue when people move out of the state that decides it's going to start using roving death squads to solve problems?

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Some are and they tend to form their own groups who are pro white and anti-black. Nothing better than a black officer telling you to just shoot a nigger if he gets out of line. I wonder how the left deals with this.

Well with the increase in diversity requirements in the military and law enforcement, the effectiveness of both will drop.

Well I meant all of them, see they got a lot in common. They both operate in gangs, extort or steal money from working civilians, protect eachother with a code of no snitching, and won't think twice to kill you.
Yep, cops are niggers.

Judges have an ethical constraint to act against unlawful actors within the BAR, including other judges. How do civil police not have any sort of self-policing standard. The existence of sedition inside the PDs necessitates that loyalists act against bad cops or be lumped in with them.

Lol. Did it ever occur to you OP that citizens can and have overthrown tyrranical governments many times in the past? Sometimes with nothing less than rocks and sticks.

lol! are they going to do it all in one night at the same time all over the country? LOL! if it happens in one city, everyone will hide their guns where "they" can't find them and then if they do show up and wreck havoc is when armed militia forms against a tyrannical gov't and it commences. Quit being a retard, cops can't even disarm niggers or ghettos and you expect them to disarm law abiding citizens?!

Got any examples?

No. You don't. Citizens have never done it without outside support. Gun ownership is not necessary.

Your deadly mistake is approaching this as if it will be a head to head battle, which it will not be.
The government forces operating in a mostly rigid, centralized TOP down command structure will be facing a loose knit, perpetually fluid gorilla group that will take some losses but they will be inflicting demoralizing losses as well. The gorilla forces will forever be illusive on their home terrain whereas the government forces will be constantly on the defense on unfamiliar ground with few friends, surrounded by danger from every angle.

To summarize: Everyone loses.

This fucking argument again....
The amount of gun owners in this country vastly outnumber the police and military forces of the federal government. If the government tries ANYTHING totalitarian, they will be facing an uprising larger than anything ever. And these supposedly supernatural forces couldn't even crush goat fuckers and rice farmers who were using ancient technology - how would they crush America's massive armed population who has technology close to theirs, outnumbers them, capable of fighting the greatest guerilla campaign in history, and has the support of the conservatives in the military who will REFUSE to back a leftist dystopia?

Please take your totalitarian government cuck fantasy to some leftist safe space and out of Cred Forums.

How are they going to perform this high risk operation flawleslly +200 million time without everyone knowing about?

Think you fucking mouthbreathing retard and stop sharing your power fantasies you bootlicker

Not to mention the government employees and their goons (along with their families) need to live among the citizenry they are actively fighting. Good luck sleeping at night.

Solzhenitsyn talked the US becoming just like the old soviet union in his "book "200 years together". He explains how the descendants of the Bolshevik Jews are now in the US implementing the same policies there as they did in Russia during the time of Lenin, Marx, Trotsky and all the others.

The left has been working towards destroying civilization and taking absolute power since the early decades of the last century. They have almost completed their 'long march' strategy of taking over existing institutions and creating a raft of new ones, all committed to imposing despotism when the opportunity arrives. They feel the reins of absolute power finally within their grasp, and they will not surrender them lightly.

In their desperation to cross the final hurdle towards their goal, they will be forced to reveal for all to see their true nature and their true aims. It will not be a pretty sight.

They are a minority. They always have been and always will be. They have gained undue influence through lies and stealth. When the majority finally gets to see what the left truly is without the disguise, they will turn against them. The left will be defeated and driven back to their sewers to fulminate and plot again.

The Cultural Marxists plan to exterminate all White people in a manner even more brutal than what the USSR did.

"Class privilege" has been replaced with "White privilege". Same oppressor/oppressed dynamic.

The Jewish race sees the white race as the only race capable of being a rival and barrier to the global Jewish Order they have been trying to create for hundreds of years. By getting rid of the white race, they will stand unopposed as the masters of mankind until the end of time. They have already figured out how to farm human beings on a global scale, now they just need to put the last nail in the coffin and remove any chance that the livestock will ever organize and fight back.

>gorilla force

>Did somebody just say gorilla force?

Because we don't have a world government yet, it would be impossible to censor, say, the russian people's reaction to the United States becoming a shameless, openly genocidal totalitarian regime from the entire internet. US citizens like us would be inevitably exposed to the outside perspective of events, en masse, because no matter how good at surveillance the deep state agencies are, they are awful at censorship. All governments are awful at censorship, that's why even the absolute champion, the shining example of DPRK, still has many defectors. A country already exposed to the global internet is objectively impossible for a human government to totally cut off without alarm.

This is why, if a coup or alternatively, slow transformation to dictatorship, resulted in the US silencing and secretly executing thousands of citizens, the rapid result would be total and utter chaos and anarchy. Riots in cities all over the nation would rapidly put the infrastructure on permanent hold, and the resulting mass use of military force and chemical and biological weapons in the zones of unrest would immediately disintegrate the country into total, chaotic civil war. Domestic trade and commerce would grind to a halt as millions die in flames, and the military would struggle to maintain control of most areas as splinter groups, extremists, radicals and terrorists spring out of the woodwork everywhere. The US government might even nuke parts of the mainland, further intensifying the destruction. Within a matter of days, the contiguous united states would be in the same situation as Syria, with a totalitarian horror state dominating limited areas and the rest of the country a complete mess of brutally and savagely warring and competing tribes. Within weeks, most humans in the country would be dead, with a few separated government sectors holding on and scavengers crawling across the wasteland. The effects of the nuclear fallout would create a fully apocalyptic scenario.

(((text here is sarcastic)))

Tl:dr

This isn't your blog, faggot. You want my guns, come try to get them. Real America is nothing like mom's house in the suburbs, son.

Gun ownership and personal responsibility is the only way to freedom.

Hey dip shit look at the men in that picture. Do you think they support or oppose the second amendment?

Tell that to the people of Venezuela.

Which side will these white men fight on in the up coming race war?

don't forget local companies would start churning out resources and offering employment to state/anti-state actors as they saw morally fit- just imagine, the entire american industrial complex turning in on itself to supply both sides in a civil war

a trans-industrial civil war taking place across the entire breadth of a continent; get comfy

>How does your right to own guns prevent that tyranny from arising.
what stopped Obama and his democratic house and senate from banning guns? The thought of the GUNS.

Only idiots think solely of tactics and strategy
Professionals think of logistics and the unconventional arts of warfare.
How long will cops/feds last when their families and homes are targeted?
How long can they last when we are knocking out power grids/rail and road infrastructure, cutting fiber/internet, sabotaging cell towers even poisoning water supplies.
How are they going to find us when we force our way into some liberal cucks home,bound or kill him and his family and subsist off of his food, only to be gone days later?
What are they going to do when we assault a police station in force, when we already have concealed carriers in the police station undercover

Tyranny doesn't exist in a bubble

you're a god damned moron OP
>pop of USA
>sheer number of persons needed to clear houses in the middle of the night and take guns
>only the first strike would be semi effective
>raids are loud and even louder with gunfire
>these things called neighbors
>these things called next day meetings
>Counter-resistance rises
>intel flows in
>counter-terrorists win.

How would guns have improved their situation?

they don't even know who has guns.. and protip, we don't live in compounds. It might be your house that has a tank rolling through it. You ok with that?

Your a retard the first thing you ship to radical proxy armies you support are guns. Base level power is achieved with guns. You don’t use battleships to control streets, you use men with automatic weapons. Internal political squabbles are dealt with GUNs. Fuck off you dumb infantile shill you know not what you talk about

You honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?

Here's how it works. They'll show up at your workplace. Or they'll get you on your way to work, or coming back from work. Or there's going to be a knock on your door in the middle of the night. If you resist, they'll just kill you. Then they'll kill your family. So you'll go along, and if you're lucky, you'll be allowed to go home eventually. If you're lucky, it's an official visit. If you're not, well then, it's going to be men in masks and fatigues, and if they're wearing badges or patches or insignia, they'll be covered up. There will be several of them, and they'll show up out of the blue, and you won't have time to be a hero. You'll get a hood over your head.

There'll be rules and then there'll be consequences. If you know what's good for you, you'll obey the rules, and you won't be bothered. If your neighbor makes trouble, well, safest for you to rat him out, so they don't think you're involved. You'll start worrying about what you say and who you say it to. After all, anyone might rat you out. So you'll be careful.

Maybe your phone is tapped. Maybe your internet is monitored. They got programs now, all they have to do is look for key words. They have algorithms to track purchases and movements, so if you're doing anything suspicious, you could be flagged. They might have a file on you. They've got a file on everyone.

So, you're just going to be a good little boy. And you're not going to make any trouble. And everything is going to be fine.

That's how it works.

John Wayne fantasies are bullshit.

10/10

goddamn id love to go into battle with this leaf at my side

>Most of us would rather die free than live as slaves.

ftfy, impossible to deny the Chad Inalienable Rights, being a Virgin Gunless Subject.

Never give in.

I don't think the government could storm a civil war. Think about how bad that would fuck up the tax systems. A blow like thay would cripple the federal government.

>Every idiot in the country lives in a large city and works inna office environment

Give me liberty or give me death, some things are worth dying for even is the cause is at first glance futile, or actually futile. All political power is derived from the barrel of a gun, so yes death is prefferable to tyranny

I have a hard time believing a nation that operates in perpetual debt with a negative balance would have any hope whatsoever effectively mitigating a home grown rebellion that targets infrastructure and capital movement - if currency is mostly digitized, then cut the fucking cord

The reason you want our guns so badly is PRECISELY because you know we can use them to stop you libtard pieces of shit.

>Here's how it works. They'll show up at your workplace.
and we'll do the same to them
>Or they'll get you on your way to work,
same
>or coming back from work.
same

basically your whole schpeel describes what will happen to them, you, anyone getting a gov paycheck, your mama, your humanities teacher...

now do mafs faggot

Thats a nice fantasy . Just like my fantasy when we go full fash and pump the gas . Not really gonna ever happen .

so you admit that our government will be killing innocent civilians? ok, sounds like we should hold on to our guns. Nice larp though.

No. It's because we don't want children to keep dying.

YOU people cling to this fantasy that you can do anything to stop a government tyranny so you can keep your toys.

I don't think you get it. If you attempt confiscation, a school shooting will be a distant memory of a more peaceful time. Think long and hard before you roll the iron dice.

>they'll just kill you. Then they'll kill your family
sure does sound like you're fighting to protect the kids.

if that were true you'd be after a giant list of other shit that is greater priority including banning niggers. you dont care about kids beyond fucking them

Nah. Almost all of you people are chicken hawks. There will be no revolution. When faced with the prospect of jail time or death, you all will hand over your guns

or you know, bury them and then sell them for huge profits but what ever

I sleep so much better at night knowing I am completely safe from the American government because I have an AR-15 under my bed.

those prospects dont stop us from countless other lesser shit now do they god yer a retard

Such disinfoo

Worse than dead. Gone.

Americans are such good goys that their goverment and the military industrial complex don't need to oppress anyone. Just feed them some tv bullshit all day long and overdrive them with disinfo via corporate controled media. Sometimes pull off some false flag bush style and then you have half the country willing to cooperate.

sage

>they'll just kill you. Then they'll kill your family

I know you libshit faggots don't hold anything or anyone dear enough die for so I'm not going to argue against what is just pain stupid wishful thinking

>You can’t take on a millitary force using civillians with small arms.

What was the Vietnam War. What were both the Soviet and Western invasions of Afghanistan. OP is a faggot.

What the fuck is with these posts recently? The past 3 days have been filled with what seems like the same shit but put in different orders.
>op is a dumbass
Probably shareblue.

OP is a soyboy shill, accepting to be the governments bitch is not a life worth living

Every single simulation says otherwise. There is no possible outcome that lands in the governments favor. All it takes is some metal scraps and a trivial knowledge of metal working to manufacture a perfectly functional firearm. And anyone with skill would be churning out semi-auto's no fucking problem.

>b-but ammunition would be banned
Ammo is just as trivial to make. Tree branches and animal fat are the only ingredients needed to make basic black powder. Expand the chemistry set with some sulfur harvested out of bubba's water well and you got yourself late 19th century tier gun powder. And the ingredients to make current generation tier ammunition are all available in the cleaning aisle of your grocery store.

FURTHERMORE, any republicuck who is stupid enough to put his name on a yes vote for some shit like that is just handing his seat over to an army of Paul Nehlens. I hope the kikes continue to pursue this. I really fucking do. As it is the comments sections on news articles are nothing but ((())) posts. Keep making the goyim realize that Cred Forums was right. KEEP DOING IT I FUCKING BEG YOU!

vietnam

This is why the left must be stopped now.
They want this.
For no other reason except that they hate you.

This

The government is very inefficient, your fantasy jackboot liberal daydream would take 50 years

The liberal hate is crazy tier

There are not enough police for such an endevour. The news would spread like wildfire and any element of surprise the cops had would be gone, along with the fleeting good will of gun owners.
It will never happen in the usa, it is stupid to think about.

Devil's advocate here. So even cops who arrest negroes for carrying guns should get the rope?

One picture:

Are you saying armed standoffs with the police don't happen? Because thats retarded.

Not enough people are going to do it to break the resolve of a police state

Underrated.

Delusional kids? How many combat veterans do you think are on here? I'm sure it's not just me. If properly motivated, someone with the military skill and experience similar to mine could reap such havoc on the country it would be grid locked with fear.

hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/
they cant even do registation in 5 yrs let alone confiscate

hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/
wrong

if thats so then you would have already taken them by now.
you spend all this time pushing propaganda trying to get us to do it willingly because you are afraid of trying it violently
>pic is what happens to nation that can't protect themselves. Their parents get thrown in jail for speaking out about it. and that is why you want us unarmed.

Yes, we can if it ever came to that.

and thats when you can tell who the enamy is cause they look different

Can confirm as I live in said Orwellian shithole. Never give up the guns, user.

read a book history is filled with violent armed Guerilla resistance that wins from an aggressive enemy. The only reason Brits and Jews keep promoting this is to try and put the final nail into the Amerimutt coffin, for globalism. You are literally a SOROScuck.
youtu.be/WkaCC2096qE

We would rather die with dignity, then surrender our liberties like a spineless kike, that is the difference between us and (((you))).

Then what can?
It seems to me like their is actually nothing else that can stop it. It may already be too late...

Modern Homosexuality - the post. Your Stonewall predecessors are rolling in their AIDS at your shameful anti-American posting. Basically, if the bruvs want to gay bash your faggot face, there is nothing you can do about it.

This user knows whats up.

It will be an absolutely fantastic shit show. Can everyone say martial law? Civil war II won't be symmetric .......

lol, who is this going to convince? is anyone going to think, a shill on Cred Forums told me to give up my guns so now I'm going to? your scenario obviously wouldn't work against an entire population that can mount an insurrection. only individuals and only for so long.

>Some guy crashed into a bus and kill everyone!
>GIVE UP YOUR CAR NOW!
This is the EXACT thing they will say when automagically driven cars become a reality.

just look at the fergason riots it would be 100 times worse

That's a foreign power invading. There is no example of a domestic uprising succeeding.

>if you resist, they'll kill you and your family
Thats a good way to get the entire nation against pigs. I'd like to see cops getting blown by ieds trying to confiscate weapons

They won't

policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/6435415-NY-sheriffs-We-wont-enforce-gun-laws-magazine-limits/

as if soldiers would carpet bomb their own families and friends indiscriminately as your pic implies....
no one would know whom was friend and whom was foe
your modern warfare plans
would fail horrendously
you might even get the capital strafed by a rogue B-2 whom had his family wiped out
in a previous bombing raid
you might as well nuke it
and then
rule over a unarmed glass parking lot

...

that's a straw man, there doesn't need to be. something analogous to what happened in the first American revolution could happen again. The current level of arms kept by our populace is enough to prevent a government takeover from happening. not because the people could necessarily overpower the deep state in a total war scenario, but because their power base would completely evaporate in the event of it. The war would only occur if the deep state wanted America to immediately cease to exist completely, and there's no scenario currently or in the near future I can see where this happens. As long as our population doesn't give up their arms it'll be a sufficient deterrent.

and based on the tone of your posts you have to be homosexual or a jew.

your foreign power straw man is a meaningless distinction. if we go to war with the govt it would basically be like fighting a foreign power anyway, and other countries would even side with our population.

I see cops with 3% tats all the time. Good luck.

gee what could go wrong with your plans to confiscate hundreds of millions of guns?
surely all your GI's would go along with it
in fact even in peacetime
they go along wi.....oh wait....
i forgot about this...

Once we start killing their families, the whole notion of state and duty goes down the shitter. Only a fool would fight toe to toe.

Your an idiot..they cant kill us all if they want to subjugate us.

>muh gunna take Le guns
Is this the part where the soymale faggot pretends he is some kind of uniform? Come on pipsqueak. You would get your teeth knocked out of your fairy skull by a tween girl at a Bieber concert. Don't bother LARPing as Billy bad ass on the Internet, it's cringier than the unironic read siege shit.

If you want to reduce the number of guns in America just get race realist and support national stop and frisk. Plenty of guns to be had that way. But of course you are just a kike who doesn't like whites and has no desire to reduce violent crime so we know that won't happen. Have fun with the replies anyway Schlomo.

Ok faggot. If our little pea-shooters are so useless, then why the fuck do you care if we have them. Why bother trying to take them away?

Holy shit left-tard, did you jerk yourself off into a coma writing that?
Your scenario only comes to pass only once the populace is generally disarmed and complacent towards government excess.
Even then, many of the most oppressive and corrupt governments in the world still struggle with rebels and terrorists.

An armed civilization is not means to end all overt government oppression, it is a means to deter it. Yes five armed men with guns at your door will kill you, but they will think twice about what they're risking their life showing up for when they know you're armed and have the potential to take one of them out before you go.

>haha give up you’re guns or I’ll break into your house and torture you haha

why didn't the soviets use these tactics to stay in power? If I'm correct, they didn't even have to deal with an armed populace.

>The key to democracy is keeping it
(((Democracy)))

Are they going to change your talking points Monday?

because he knows the cons for his organization would outweigh the pros and he's too much of a pussy to admit it. nothing will happen as long as the people keep their arms. it's a successful deterrent if enough people have them.

They always show their true colors eventually.

The only thing they are good for is killing children and stoking your ego. They won't stop a tyrannical government.

Choke on a bullet and die.

Funny because they seem to be stopping you faggots just fine. I'll keep my weapons, thanks.

The American people will eventually reach a breaking point where they won't tolerate dead children anymore. When that happens your right to own your toys is over, and there isn't a damn thing you will do about it.

>ou honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?
Them. Oppress "them", you fucking illiterate cunt.

>You honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?
Easily.

You are hopelessly naive. When has this ever happened?

It's also worth noting that trust in government and a decent future for whites is at an all-time low.

When has a populace ever been anywhere near as well-armed as this one?

Iraq. More AK-47s than people. Saddam crushed the Iraqi people easily in 1991, even though his army had just been obliterated in the first gulf war.

First time for everything. Who knows wtf would happen, it'd be a mess. Military could go awol and join civilians aswel and supply them shit and even the fields, civilians could be funded by foreign countries aswell and hear them up.

World is chaotic and a mystery. Nobody in 2013 thought Trump wild run for president ever and thought he was joking until 2015, he ran then won in 2016.

World is weird. For natural events, one can only assume the future rather than actually predict it.

fuck you, you cia nigger piece of shit.

This is how it stops government tyrrany:

When there's leftists in power they don't try this because it would cause some to fight back.

It spreads. The military is sympathetic and half of it breaks off and you have a civil war with half the military plus citizens with guns fighting the other half. The cities are nuked.

Foreign powers interfere. Etc.

So... The left's tyrrany is held in check without a shot being fired by the deterrent that the citizens are armed. Which is why they want to get the guns - so they can be tyrants.

kek

Lmao keep telling yourself that. Sage

If you want children to stop dying, then you might need a gun to get into a compound and kill someone like Peter Scully.
baka.com.au/world/alleged-sex-predator-peter-scully-to-escape-philippines-death-penalty-if-convicted-20170307-gusyz4.html

If you can't identify the real reasons why elites want you disarmed, then you really are wasting oxygen right now.

>baka.com
>actually baka.com

Are you fucking 12? Try every single popular revolution that's ever taken place.

>s...m....h....com

>we’ll just tyrannisize you anyway
You’re not making a very good argument you dumb fucking bait thread posting shitter

Heres how it works. All of your families and everyone you ever loved will be murdered first.

>illiterate vietnamese farmers with bolt action rifles
>fat rednecks with AR-15's
pick only one

>You honestly think guerilla fighters in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq can resist a government determined to oppress it?

ftfy

Also you forget the military is 90% republican males who aren't gonna shit where they eat. Fighting a bunch of brown people in a desert it's easy to shave away their humanity, not so much when it's your neighbors on your own fucking soil.

Wrong, what I am actually going to do is but a semi-auto belt fed now and then when things in my locality go sour convert it to full auto and shit platoon level firepower all over that cute little squad you have posted there. Because unless they have nij level 4 plates in (most people use level 3 plates) I can get through that shit with some armor piercing 7.62x51 Nato, and when I do I'll be able to arm my own squad of patriots. And God help authoritarians like you if that happened because the next thing I would do is have them go door to door looking for traitors to spray down. Fuck you, fuck your ideas, and fuck anybody who thinks America is ever going to be their bitch.

Do people in Canada, the UK, or Australia live in a Tyranny?

Confiscating guns does not mean you live in a Tyranny

Never forget my precious tax paying n fleeced regularly cattle.That the government and its acronym agencies ate mobsters.They dont like it when their goyim have an equal playing field.Makes them feel like lessers gods.They want to be the only gangsters on the block with the latest toys to scrub you out, will keeping you at a disadvantage.

Ive no doubt the lastest shooting was also a government false flag operation.

THEYRE TRYING AND THEYRE TRYING VERY HARD TO TURN ALL OF US INTO DUCKS IN A BARREL.

I wish gunfags would start the autistic insurrection they've been dreaming of. Watching them try to take on an actual, well-trained, well-supplied, well-equipped fighting force with their AR-15s would be hilarious.

user, these people have families and homes and need to sleep and eat too. Theyre people, no different from you and I, stop putting normies on a pedestal. They dont want a civil war anymore than you.

Victor Charlie says hello

>John Wayne

Reminder that John Wayne's side lost to cavemen in black pajamas

>John Wayne fantasies are bullshit
Except they're literally history. How do you think this country came into existence? Magical fairy dust?
>A bunch of farmers with muskets
vs
>The most powerful empire the world has ever seen at the height of it's power.
>Durrrr that never happened!!!!
>MUH DRONES!
>MUH MISSILES!
Neither of which would be effective. There aren't drones in the entire US military to patrol the entire country 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Missiles don't work because well, they're expensive and they're single use. You think a government actively murdering it's own people would be able to upkeep their equipment and arms when literally half the country is in open rebellion? Guess what happens in a civil war? Half the country no longer pays taxes to said government anymore. That's a HUGE amount of money the government no longer has, so there goes half their entire budget, meaning the size of said government, shrinks as a result.
There are 300,000,000 guns in the US. If only 1% of these guns were aimed at LEO and the military, there would be absolutely nothing the government could do. That's 3 million guns. That's MORE than the entire US military and every LEO in the entire country combined. And that's a conservative estimate at only 1%.
Also, a civil war would instigate thousands of moles, spies, and other subversives within the LEO community and across all branches of the military, because being realistic, 100% of the military isn't going to be okay with seeing their countrymen, neighbors, friends and family blown up by missiles and tanks. That simple mechanic you see on the flightline who turns wrenches all day on jets? Yeah, he just accidentally left a wrench or a bolt right next to the jet intake of that fancy new F-35. There's a billion dollars down the toilet when the turbines on that jet engine blow the fuck out and destroy the chassis of the plane before it even hits the air.

What you fail to understand is the police and military are overwhelmingly a majority of those very gunfags you speak of. Both sides crying theyd wish the other would punt the ball, when someone does neither side wants to claim it, go to sleep coward, its past your bedtime

The Union says hi back, after Marching to the Sea and successfully putting down a rebel insurgency.

Its coming apart at the seams, and your assisting it, thanks, friend

I'm part of a well regulated militia though.

>rebel insurgency

The Confederacy fought a conventional war you fucking retard. And the reason the Union was relatively lenient afterward with Reconstruction was because they knew they had zero hope of stopping a sustained Confederate insurgency, their entire strategy for victory rested on forcing Lee's surrender and him not taking his army into the bush where the Confederates would have a decisive advantage.

>The U.S. army will take the side of the government
>The U.S. army will kill their friends and families
>The U.S. army will take the side of liberals
>The U.S. army would win outnumbered 8:1
>The U.S. army would win against guerrilla warfare
I could go on forever. It's laughable.
Let's assume they decide to go along with the ruling class.
They have families and loved ones as well, it would be open season.
>MUH JETS MUH TANKS MUH DRONES
Useless in asymmetrical warfare, especially in your own town.
>MUH NUKES
Yeah, the U.S. would nuke itself. That's totally something that could happen. Sure.

what makes you think I have guns to fight against the government?
it's more probable that I HELP the government when the time comes to wipe out communists

You dumb faggot. What makes you think that “life goes on as normal” and people continue to go to work, through their daily routines as if nothing has changed, if or when the government takes that step in to full fledged totalitarianism? You’re hitting the pipe too much if you think people are just going to go about their business. People won’t be at work, they’ll be drilling. People won’t be waiting for it to happen, they’ll be out organizing. They already are doing these things, you’re just a retarded faggot.

>Its coming apart at the seams

Good, I can't wait to kill every last nigger-loving Unionist I can get my hands on.

I think there is this strange distinction between the words 'government' and 'people' in most peoples' minds. People talk about the government this and the government that, but really, it's all just people. We say gangs are bad, but when you look at it, gangs are just doing exactly what the government does. Protecting its interests at the point of a gun. The problem is corporations are people, and people tend to make decisions that are in their body's best interest. When you have groups of individuals, tasked with making the decisions that are good for that group begin to make decisions that are bad... for that group, you force the people into deciding which corporation they work for. Right now, we are in a war - and let's be crystal clear about that, it is war - precisely because they forgot who they work for, and it shows.

People who don't have empathy, should never be allowed to lead... because they can't. Satan was cast down. Get it.

>Police are pro 2A
You fucking dumbass. Or rather you sound like a paid shill. Kick rocks.

>Has never met a cop or talked to one
What a lonely life. You don't sound like you've got many friends, kid.

Former Red Team Planner????

Hah! He's a fucking cuck!

There aren't enough who are willing to enforce their bullshit.
We will kill you. Make no mistake.

>hates nigger-loving unionists
>has the nighest nigger population in the US
>loves a guy who assassinated abe before he deported all the niggers to liberia

who is the nigger lover here?

>>So even cops who arrest negroes for carrying guns should get the rope?

All niggers should be shot on sight.

Yeah.

You can't enforce a police state against an armed populace. It doesn't work. You have civil war instead.

The people give the government power so the government really has no power if it is going against the will of the people. Its simple and easy to understand, especially knowing that you can have a nation as big as Russia, and a strong tyrannical government, but that government won't even have the power to command the bahamas. Also this is weak bait compared to other slide threads you did earlier this week user.

Damn.....good fucking read.

>All niggers should be shot on sight.

This.

Every last US government employee, illegal alien, and left-wing voter should be similarly liquidated

You give the government too much credit for
doing it's job.

t. A government worker

>>Saddam Hussein lasted 24 years. Well armed citizenry did nothing and made no difference.
Perhaps they liked their despot. Did you ever consider that?

Came here just for this pic

>oh look, this song and dance again
Show me a tyrannical government in the 20th or current century that didn't get the ball rolling with widespread confiscation of civilian-owned small arms. Show me one.

If they're so useless as a deterrent to despotism, show me one regime that let an armed populace stay armed before they began their tyranny. Show one example.

Just one.

OH BOY OP IS RIGHT WE’D BETTER ALL GIVE UP OUT GUNS AND BECOME FAGGY LEFTISTS IT’S ALL OGRE GUISE!!!

FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING SHILL WE WILL NOT GIVE OUR GUNS. COME GET THE PRO GUN POLICE AND ARMY TO COME TAKE EM lolz

youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew

>the US military has been bogged down by illiterate sand people for over a decade, all of them armed solely woth small arms.
>Americans with small arms cant do the same thing

Go b8 somewhere else faggit.

>implying there aren't countries itching to overthrow the united states

>God, I hate the descendants of late 19th century immigrants so fucking much. Please, just go back. You don't belong on this continent.

Unironically this.

America is a white man's country. It belongs not to the filthy Jew, the German, Potatonigger, or Wop, but to the Anglo race!

If your ancestors weren't here during the Revolution, you're not American.

>t. Defeated Afghan now occupied by victorious russian and American conquerers

>>what stopped Obama and his democratic house and senate from banning guns?
Success in the market. obama, was their best salesman.

>Confiscating guns does not mean you live in a Tyranny

When the founders of your nation were wise enough to enshrine in your ruling document a protection against the federal government disarming the populace, then yes, gun confiscation does in fact mean tyranny.

Tench Coxe: “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” in “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution,” under the pseudonym “A Pennsylvanian” in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789.

Thomas Jefferson: “And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms… The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”, letter to William S. Smith, 1787, in S. Padover (Ed.), Jefferson, On Democracy (1939), p. 20.

Richard Henry Lee: “To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them…” (LIGHT HORSE HARRY) LEE, writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788)

Joseph Story (Supreme Court Justice): “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic…”

George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”

Read a fuckin' history book plebe.

My familys history begins at the mid 1800s. Can I stay? My great grandfather was enlisted and served during the korean conflict. My father was too young to get in for vietnam

Yes so just bend over don't fight back

Fuck you. I'd rather die a free man fighting a hopeless battle than live as a slave. The natives of North America they had no industry few guns but they fought until the bloody end til almost all of them were wiped out and that's what many of us would do in the face of tyranny. A life under someone else's boot isn't a life at all id rather die fighting it

>So, you're just going to be a good little boy.
What is this, a fetish roleplay? Are you Luv? Am I K?

Why are you trying to turn me on, OP? Do you feel in charge here?

meanwhile the B-2's fuel supplies, munitions, airfield, all of the trucks and transports networks required to arm, fuel, crew, and train all of the people that maintain and fly it are all totally surrounded by a guerilla force that outnumbers the military hundreds to one.

also what the hell are you going to do with it, rolling thunder a city? yeah OK.

Also at very least half of all the military and law enforcement are pro gun themselves and would refuse. The thing these people get the most wrong is in thinking the military and police theyve spent a huge amount of time shitting all over by the way are going to just obey their orders because "they're in charge". A civil war over guns wouldn't be a few hicks against the entire US military/police members of the military and police are going to start defecting and join the rebels. Hell there are police forces in the US that have already publicly declared that they will disobey orders to take people's guns

incompetence > conspiracy every time user
occams razor n sheit

>civilians can't against government

lrn2ukraine

Yes, easily. Your systems have too many weak points. Not fluid enough. If it wasn't your own population, maybe. But not in this context, not with the history of the country, and the amount of weapons (and things that can be utilized as weapons) around.

>You honestly think civilians can resist a government determined to oppress it?

yes. look to vietnam and afganistan for proof of decentralized guerrilla warfare and how effective it can be against an organized force. add to the fact that many military are redpilled and not into firing on their own people.

Exactly, I am not afraid of the government being tyrannical, I am worried about the ghetto street rats wanting to rob/ attack me.

Bless your heart, sweetie.

There are fates worse than death.

Wrong. Was born free men.
Will die on our feet as free men, need be.
The only way you can try to take our creator given right is to dissolve our Republic, which exists to protect those creator given rights.
So, they only way it's happening is war.
And that ain't happening.
Keep dreaming.
Sage.