What if we made it illegal to sell or produce guns in the US?

That’s pretty much what I’m thinking, I just haven’t got the wording quite right just yet.

Please come for my weapons.
Please.
I'm fucking BEGGING YOU

that's really fuckin stewpid...even for you

In October 2017, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in the case of Teixeria v County of Alamda that the 2nd amendment does not mean people have the right to SELL weapons.

How does that actually solve the problem? We still have guns from the fucking 60s knocking around in Australia. Aren't the estimates like between 400m and 1bn guns in America?

You think the military, that votes blood red, would be on your side in dissolving a fundamental right?

Listen pretend Rambo, nobody is coming for your guns. I’m proposing a law that says you MUST keep your guns.

the military cant do anything but fight defensive wars in america stupid, and they sure as hell wont kill their friends and family members

Aluminum and polymer doesn't rust and ARs were designed by Stoner to be churned out in garages if the Commies ever invaded.
Sage nigger.

that would be nice right

>ninth circuit
>an actual American court

Pick one

That's not the logic, and it is true that we do have too many laws today. The worry has always been that we would be at either end of the scale, either with too few laws, or too many. Right now, we have too many

> 9th circuit.

Literally 79% of the shit they say that goes to the supreme court gets overturned. I'm amazed your government with 'checks and balances' actually lets retarded judges that make these rulings stick around after their constant, flagrant anti-constitutional actions.

And I know people who have rifles from the 1800's.

While there are some who take care of their weapons, there is a large population who don't. So a rifle that might last 100 years only last 30 years because the owners let if fall to shit.

Over time the number of weapons would be reduced, and the owners of these weapons would treasure and care for them more; making it less likely they would fall into the wrong hands.

We're not stupid you limp wristed collectivist faggot.
Banning the production, importation, or sale is still a ban.
Millions will die attempting to implement it.
Why do you want millions to die so much? Does it make you hard?

So your plan for ending gun violence now is on a 500-1000 year timescale. That can completely be circumvented by any highschooler who took shop class.

9th circuit has an abysmal record, they get overruled all the time, the most recent being the travel ban which the SCOTUS upheld after the 9th circuit deemed it unconstitutional

>Millions will die attempting to implement it.

Are gun factories going to attack the US?

Cause gun owners are safe.

Funny thing is if the 2nd amendment can be restricted and gotten rid of so easily then what chance do the rest of them have? Freedom of speech...lol

>they sure as hell wont kill their friends and family members
Hey stars and bars? Maybe crack open a history book on that war between the states sometime, huh? I think there’s a chapter you might’ve missed

Its a shame Pinochet missed you or your sire.

Not any student who takes shop. If it were that easy, we would have a large number of zip guns floating around.

Making a weapon that fires more than 2 shots before breaking is a skill most shop students don't have.

And yes, it is a solution that will take probably 1.5 generations to complete.

But right now, it may be the only solution that works. We've tried nothing, we've tried more guns, nether has worked.

Armed guards in schools won't work, having a single entrance to schools worn't work.

The South rebelling over slavery is a little different than people rebelling over the unconstitutional dissolution of our most sacred right. The right of The People to opt out and take up arms against a tyrannical state.

>Literally shit that hasn't been attempted
>Won't work
Holy fuck, the shills are getting bonuses this week.

my god the amount of shills in this place
this

ARMALITES!! IN AN OPEN FIELD NED!

The Constitution is what 2/3 of the states say it is at any given moment.

As the times have changed, amendments have been added; at least one has been repealed.

You don't understand what he said.

Why are you so autistically mad over the least statistically significant way to die?

Why not try halting the disenfranchisement of youth?

Every time your ilk say "We've done nothing! And we're all out of ideas!" smugly and try to pin the blame on republicans, all you've put forward is Gun Control which straight up doesn't work.

Every country that bans guns still has violent crime and national tragedies. States that have gun control still have gun problems.

Why is Gun Control the ONLY solution for you?

Filipinos make home made guns by hand out in the jungle. What do you think is going to happen in a country with modern machinery

Sounds like a whole lot of infringing to me

I took 2 shop classes, learned nothing about gun making. We made some cutting boards, birdhouses, and bent little pieces of steel for fun.

What kind of shop classes do they have down under, nigger?

Good luck getting that super majority cocksucker

Its always the last resort of the collectivist faggot.
He has to KNOW resistance to the God of Government will be nonexistent.

Then what is the solution? You tell me what we have to do to stop having someone shooting up a crowd every few months.

The vast majority of gun owners are responsible and take their responsibilities seriously. I own a few AR's, I have my CPL.

The problem isn't with the responsible gun owner, it's with the morons who ruin it for everyone.

So, short of doing nothing... what is YOUR solution for solving the problem of mass shootings?

>If it were that easy, we would have a large number of zip guns floating around.
Because we don't need to as we have real guns. Anyone who makes their own weapon right now is a hobbyist gunsmith, that changes when you're making something for the sake of killing someone. Or you wait for the first person to kill 20 of their classmates with a pressure cooker and that becomes the new meme weapon.

How? You could 100% bear your arms. Just don’t buy or sell them.

what if we rounded up all the leftist anti-gun shits and deported them to a country with gun control so they will stfu?
kys

>Claims to own AR
>Shilling gun control
I have nigger friends, they wuz kangs too.
End gun free zones.
Or die trying to take the guns. I prefer the latter at this point.

I'll give you points for the obscure simpsons reference.

But what makes you think I'm not a republican? I've been a republican (probably) since long before you were born.

And I'm not anti-gun. I own 2 AR's, I have a CPL, I carry every day.

But eventually you have to face the reality of the situation. Yes, you are statistically unlikely to be killed in a mass shooting, but it's hard to lean on that when you have children dead in a school.

So again... what is your solution?

the main problem is the rise of 3-D Printing, CNC machining, schematics and specifications of parts and assemblies online

In the next 10-20 years, as additive manufacturing gains more steam, people will more easily be able to build (print) guns at home

The whole issue of "background checks" and "serial numbers" will be completely moot once people can just push a few buttons at home and they can simply print gun parts and assemble the gun at home

We equip people with the tools needed to stop these events from becoming mass shootings. Trying to limit people's access to firearms does nothing but ensure only the criminals and the state have them. All the places with the strictest gun laws have the highest murder rates, and not just because people are using different methods of killing, a lot of those are still done with guns. But you know this already, you also know that you can never implement your failed idea of socialism if the people are armed.

Sounds like a whole lot of infringing to me.

I can build a gun with a hack saw and some pipe

>I guess we’d have to use those factories to make stuff that doesn’t kill people
we tried that there is no money in it

guns, germs and drugs

We learned how to use metal and wood lathes, hydraulic presses and pan brakes as well as the maths and tools to build shit on our own, plus a load of tools and machines i'm probably forgetting. That was grade 9-10 shit before i stopped doing it.

It was a real education not some numpty ass teenage daycare 'measure and glue 4 pieces of wood together and call it a birdhouse' shit. We also shot rifles and pistols for PE.

Graduated in 2009 and live in a 'major' city too.

More money into mental health. Pare back useless legislation and actually enforce that which is already on the books. Better actual schooling and education that isn't pussy ass shit that leaves teenagers fragile as fucking glass, Stop making the shooters national fucking celebrities, there are hundreds of different ideas that are completely ignored because of partisan 'muh NRA' scapegoating.

That’s why I initially said in the OP making guns as well as selling them. I realize the arms industry is a huge part of the economy, maybe we could have a special license you need to make or manufacture them legally.

>The whole issue of "background checks" and "serial numbers" will be completely moot
what I hate about laws like this is they never take into consideration the costs of checks and serial numbers, we aim to keep costs low, because this keeps liberty high

>Armed guards at schools won't work?
Why would you assume this? Ever wonder why there are so many mass shootings at schools?
Maybe because it's one of the few places where they aren't allowed to have guns.

>what is YOUR solution for solving the problem of mass shootings?
Answer 1: There isn't a problem. Mass shootings are statistically insignificant events in terms of loss of life. Even less so when you stop accepting media koolaid and actually knock out all the gang-related ones the media hopes you think are also school shootings. The second issue with this is that they are acute, random events. A high level solution will never work because this is a ground level problem. People close to the issue have to pay attention to those around them and put an end to it, and even then things will likely still slip through the cracks because you cannot be your brother's keeper at all times.

Answer 2: Copycat shooting is real. The media sensationalizes and glorifies school shooters. Depressed, angry kid wanting to make your mark on the world? Kill your classmates, the news will suck your dick for it. Why did this guy have an AR-15? Because the media told him he shouldn't have one. Why did he use it for a school shooting? Because its a meme. If the Columbine shooter's bomb had gone off it would've dwarfed their shooting spree and bombs would likely be the meme weapon of choice instead of guns, like it is in the ME.

I know it's a tough concept but
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Wew lad, skating around on technicalities trying to justify the gradual elimination of private firearm ownership doesn't somehow make it not justifying the gradual elimination of private firearm ownership.

You and everyone like you should be fucking dead.
The republic would not mourn your absence in the slightest.

There was an armed guard on duty at Parkland. He ended up getting shot.

>Infringing on the right to dissolve tyrannical government, enshrined in the Declaration
Gonna be a whole lot of death involved in this idea.
I thought gun owners were the bloodthirsty ones.
Wait until the control freaks try to take them.

Lol. Prohibition. Yeah sure user I’m sure banning the sales and manufacturing will end it. And in no way just drive it under ground and be totally unregulated. Kek.

Answer 3: Armed guards at school. You said it doesn't work without evidence, how many mass school shootings took place in the hood? The people around there have more guns, are ridiculously willing to use them, shoot each other all the fucking time, but not at school, why? Because the schools are fortified and built like prisons, and staffed with guards. Occasionally someone does shoot at the school and get a gun in or something, but its really rare and the body counts are less than nothing.

In what way is it infringing on the right to bear arms? Bear them all day. I’m talking about selling them

> claims to own AR

No, I said I owned two. These two. One is a bushmaster XM-15, the other one is a Sig Sauer 556p.

With the plan I talked about, I would be able to keep my weapons. You would be able to keep yours.

Everyone would be able to keep theirs, and would be allowed to buy weapons in private sales from other current owners.

But we would stop the inflow of new weapons. And that would cut down the population over time, and would increase the value of existing weapons while incentivizing current owners to keep better care of them

Leftypol kikes go home when?

ATF niggers glow in the dark.
Scared of being ordered to confiscate, huh?

This is an obvious loophole around the 2nd that goes against the spirit of the law. I'm not a lawyer but that shit wpuld get struck down easily

That and people would get around it like Utah did with beer: sell gun club memberships or something like that which would come with a free gun

>And that would cut down the population over time

To cut back to the point that no more guns are available EVENTUALLY, thus infringing on the 2nd amendment, thus being unconstitutional, thus being retarded.

Good work, idiot.

How do you sleep at night being such a fucking lying piece of shit
google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/crime/armed-guard-florida-school-encountered-rampaging-gunman-article-1.3822777

good job now you just have a full black market since people can own them so one they bought they are safe

fpbp.
we export weapons all over the world , the government is going to shut that down.

i'm pretty sure century arms is a CIA front to arm rebel groups

But what does this mean? Let's assume we all believe the media narrative and this wasn't a false flag with the explicit purpose of pushing for more gun control. This means that a grown adult, who's job is to defend the lives of others, with a firearm if necessary, was outgunned by an unstable teenager. This would mean that this security guard was under-trained in his job or he didn't have adequate equipment. Sounds to me like this shooting should be his fault since it was his job to prevent such things.

Dumb and gay

I got him confused with that football coach that threw himself in front of a bunch of kids to save them. At the end of the day it ends up making a better case for why armed guards at schools aren’t the solution

The guns used crime, especially organized and street crime aren't manufactured by major companies, they're manufactured by Filipinos and there's a network of gun distributors that collect, sell and recycle them. They eventually end up in Central America and are used by drug cartels. Then when federalles raid drug compounds they find a bunch of shitty old guns with no markings on them.

Also there's thousands of Southerners with the metal working tools to make their own firearms. It's not a complex manufacturing process, semi-automatic guns are nearly 100 years old

True.
Every baby is issued 2 guns at birth
Even immigrants are given a US issued handgun when they cross the boarder.

>At the end of the day it ends up making a better case for why armed guards at schools aren’t the solution
Your 'solution' is one guy in a school of several thousand students with no back-up or support, no surveillance and an indefensible location, then when he never mets the shooter you throw up your hands and say 'See! Armed guards would never work!'

So your answer is to do nothing? As far as "socialism", I've been a republican since Nixon was president.

Here's the reason armed guards won't solve the problem....

Let's say you have 1 entrance to the school, with the other doors exit only, and you put armed guards at the doors. Or even have the guards walking the halls after all of the students arrive.

You'd have to have the other doors still functioning as an exit, or you would wind up with a Triangle fire situation.

So, two shooters. One goes through the metal detector past the armed guard. He goes to the other end of the school and opens up the door where his partner brings in the weapons.

And armed guard's won't stop shootings. At best they would limit the number of victims before the guard can engage the shooter. This, of course, assumes that the guard is on the same side of the building as the shooter when all hell breaks loose.

Banning their production is same as banning their ownership. T.supreme court justice.

Fuck off, we know the left wouldnt stop there

He doesn't care about the school, or the kids, or the shooter, or the guards.
He cares about civilian ownership of firearms opposing his Glorious State.

You can't fucking do it! The amount of guns now is in line with population. At some point the population will outnumber the amount of guns and you will be denying people their 2A right.

But hey lets start by not letting anymore women vote that are not currently over 18. That would fix a lot of shit.

What if I shoot you in the face?

>solve our mass shooting problem over night
I wish we could solve your autism overnight.

>ATF NIGGER GLOWS IN THE DARK!

Am ancap, can confirm

as a hypothetical: would it also be ok if we continued to allow blacks to vote, but banned them from leaving their house on election day? They still technically have the right to vote, correct!?

In this case it would have stoped Cruz from getting his guns in the first place. And in Aurora. And in dozens of other places. So yeah, I’m saying at this point looking at the stack of bodies we have piled up so far, less guns, not more seems like the more reasonable solution

What if we deported beaners, repatriated africans, and expelled jews?

>What if we made it illegal to sell or produce guns in the US?

Let's put it this way, would you like to be executed by firing squad or stoned to death?

Call me when you've done something about people who have had the police called on them dozens of times and post under their own name they're going to shoot up a school.

When you've got those people under control, we can talk about guns.

But not until.

Lets look at the pile of bodies you'll generate with your idea.
Which is bigger?

>It won't work because I can concoct a scenario where multiple students are working in coordination
This guy was hated by everyone at school, he doesn't have access to a partner, but now these solo misanthropes would suddenly be all about the buddy system to get past school security and still have a chance of getting stopped instead of dick all? Well fuck, back to the drawing board then, its just so easy today for teens these days to get lots of help and support with their school shootings which is why so many of them have been rampage killings with 2+ assailants.

Here, lets play your game
>Banning the manufacture of guns won't work because school shooters will become expert gunsmiths and make military grade hardware to do school shootings quickly and easily and rack up huge body counts. They now also work in 'gun clubs' and body counts soar as school are assaulted by 10+ attackers.

>Implement full police state protocols
>Will never work because school shooters will create guns themselves at home and then use those guns exclusively to shoot up schools instead of fight the police state
Guess we better do nothing, its impossible to think of a solution you can't use your imagination to think of a way past.

Not true. All of my guns are legal and registered. I have a Michigan issued CPL, so I can carry my weapons.

Claiming that anyone who wants to work toward solutions to this real problem is either a gun grabber, a government spy or whatever doesn't help, and borders on the paranoid.

We have a very real problem in this country, and doing nothing is not longer a workable solution.

Then School shooters will buy an illegally imported gun - it's not like someone willing to commit a public school massacre would concern himself with the legality of getting a gun/rifle.

I think you fail to realize how large the logistical nightmare would be for the United States military in a manner of weeks if that were to happen.

Why would there not be a guard at the exit preventing the whole scenario. Seems almost like the best place for the other guards to be posted.
And why is limiting the number of victims a Not a priority if you call yourself such a humanist? This should be what you are pushing for if you actually gave a shit. It's realistic and could save lives. Everything else is virtue signalling b.s.

>In this case it would have stoped Cruz from getting his guns in the first place
What would? Your argument was against the idea of having any armed guard(because there was only one) at all. How would not having this single armed guard have stopped Cruz? Was this single armed guard somehow involved in Cruz's purchase of his weapon and if he hadn't been hired as an armed guard he could've stopped Cruz from buying it?

It sure would make it harder though.

No? Shit, give me a bar of aluminum and an hour with my drill press. I'd make a killing selling lowers.

This.

Just kill all those tyrants.

What are you even trying to imply with this post?

That many guns exist, and those guns are easy as fuck to maintain, thus making the original proposition of the thread "Stop producing guns = stop gun violence / school shootings" fucking retarded unless we're talking on a 500+ year timescale (which itself is still pretty fucking retarded).

found the ancap

>ATF nigger's in Michigan
I live in a state where I can carry without a fucking card.
We all shot each other to death.
I'm posting beyond the grave.
Then again, you're a genuine government control shill with a personal stake in potentially losing your life when control-freak retards think they can get away with not initiating a civil war.

No, my solution is to arm everyone. It becomes unthinkable for somebody to carry out an attack if they know all their intended victims are armed. You can claim to be republican all you want but history has shown, that every single time the people are disarmed, "dissidents" and "intellectuals" are rounded up and murdered in order to prevent them from challenging the socialist regime. That is the only reason to ever disarm the people. This is why people will fight to keep their guns and ability to acquire more, this is also why most gun owners won't register them either. And the current restrictions on who can own guns does nothing to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

>We have a very real problem in this country, and doing nothing is not longer a workable solution.

We have a very real problem with pearl-clutching faggots.

How about we just shoot you all in the face and do whatever the fuck we want?

Schools are required to have doors within X feet of every classroom. I don't know about the school you went to, but mine had 1 main entrance, 1 entrance in the back, and probably 50 exit-only doors throughout the school.

There isn't enough armed guards in the country to cover all of the doors in all of the schools in this country. And even if there were, the cost would be crazy.

But... assuming there were, then they would go back to theaters, malls, or other highly populated targets.

I carry, because the 2nd Amendment says I can. Fuck your card nigger.

>That is the only reason to ever disarm the people.
Who is talking about disarming the people? This is about prohibiting gun sales.

This is LITERALLY THE EXACT FUCKING THING that was feared about standing in the federalist papers.

And you fucking Yankees tossed out the founders idea to prevent this and allowed a standing army.

I hope your family gets shot before mine

How about I prohibit you from breathing?

We have a very real problem. Solve it by having open carry mandated in all states in all places.

Why won't this work?

Not every. We have countries around the world right now where private gun ownership is limited and they HAVEN'T rounded up all the trouble makers and thrown them into camps.

yes, harder for law-abiding people who have jobs, families, futures and responsibilities. the backbones of society.

not at all harder for the criminal element who simply do not give a fuck. jail, whatever. prison, maybe i'll meet my father.

your thinking is short-term. its all fucked up and you sound retarded.

You're a retarded nigger. Try to put down my insurgency.

>Illegal to sell guns
>Illegal to transfer guns

But once you or your dad dies, the government will then confiscate the firearm. The second amendment would therefore not be intact.

What about gunfire detectors and lock down doors

>But... assuming there were, then they would go back to theaters, malls, or other highly populated targets.
Has anyone seen goalpost? He was here just a minute ago.

So you care about total life lost from any source and not simply protecting kids in school like you have been hammering up and down all thread? I've got a few thousand dead hood niggers Imma need you to care about now before you get all weepy about a few dead crackers and jews.

>i'm pretty sure century arms is a CIA front to arm rebel groups

why? i do direct business with them and I've come to the same conclusion

Maybe address the cause, not the symptom? Fix single mother broken homes and you'll fix school shootings. Maybe it's time to admit that attacking the core foundations upon which our civilization is built wasn't a good idea.

ifstudies.org/blog/school-shootings-fathers-divorce-family-structure

thetrumpet.com/16925-another-school-shooter-another-fatherless-child

thefederalist.com/2015/07/14/guess-which-mass-murderers-came-from-a-fatherless-home/

Britain is working very hard to change that, so is France, so is Germany, so is Sweden. You disarm the populace, wait 10-20 years, then do whatever you want and commit mass murder as tickles your fancy, that's how it works.

>Genuine ATF nigger
>Proved weaponry
>Still a gun control shill
He only cares about more Bundy incidents where whitey gets uppity and actually challenges their tyranny.

Because a good portion of the people open carrying would be the ones starting the shooting.

Remember, we now live in a country where you have to have a warning that coffee is hot and that it's not a good idea to eat detergent.

Like I said earlier, every gun owning friend I have (and nearly all of the own guns) are responsible. If I were to put a loaded weapon on a table between us, no one would be shot because we're not crazy.

But in any population a certain percentage will be crazy or violent. So let's say it's 1% in America. That would be 3.2 million crazy violent people out there.

Yes, you could counter with the argument that this is the reason why we need guns, and I'm not going to disagree with that. Which is why I'm not talking about impounding guns, but simply reducing the total number of guns in circulation over time.

Just because they haven't begun to do it doesn't mean they won't, and now there is nothing stopping them. It's just a matter of time.

Then you have removed a right from the constitution and there will be war.

>But once you or your dad dies, the government will then confiscate the firearm. The second amendment would therefore not be intact.
He could be buried with his gun. He’d still be able to bear it, keeping with the second amendment, and if they wanted it they could pry it out of his cold dead hands.

Finally you see.

Guns kill less than cars so I guess weapons factories are more peaceful than car factories.

>You could still own them, but we completely halt production and importing them. Boom, the second amendment is still in tact, and we solve our mass shooting problem over night.
So what your saying is that you think guns are the problem, and your solution to this problem is to let everyone keep their 500 million guns in this country but not be able to buy more. This is fucking retarded logic.

Lol. Overnight

Kys

Hey guys what if we made it illegal to sell or produce Alcohol? Surely that wouldn't create a blackmarket!

>How to completely erase all the anti-gun "progress" that's been made over the past century
>gun registries
>background checks
>full auto ban
All completely irrelevant once the booming black market you just created takes over.

You probably don't realize, you are what they call a useful idiot. That is the first step. Notice they are doing this with the 1st amendment as well. Slowly outlawing hate speech, all in the name of protecting people. But what you are doing is making the 1st sms 2nd amendments changeable and then they change some more and eventually they have control over what you say and you don't have guns to tell them otherwise. There is a reason the F Fathers made this # fucking 1 and #Fucking 2. They had read history and knew what happened if you don't protect those 2 things.

Its sound logic when you're a long-term strategic thinker in the art of absolute government control and have an insubordinate and armed populace.

I agree with you. The main problem is the moral decline in the country.

I first learned to shoot at 11 years old as a boy scout. There we were, 20 armed children in a row blasting away, and we weren't a risk to anyone.

I just don't have the optimism that we are going to fix the collective insanity of society. We're too far gone, though I wish there was a way we could try.

Killing is needed in order to survive, you faggot.

>Which is why I'm not talking about impounding guns
Yes you are. Anyone that does not have a gun right the fuck now would never be able to legally acquire one by your system. Therefore all guns possessed by those under the age of X are illegal and the state is free to take them, in a single generation no one will have any guns at all. Stopping production and sale is a ban where the fuckers couldn't get enough support for an actual ban, and we're not stupid enough to buy your bullshit for even a second.

>I don't want to take away your guns, I just want to make sure it is literally impossible for you to ever have a gun in the first place, or your children, or their children.

That's the fucking idea you simpleton. The Founding Fathers were the "anarchists" of their times.

Not true. And I don't give a shit about race.

But using your logic, who is more likely to own a $2000 assault weapon? And who is more likely to take care of the weapon once they own it?

That's the only thing it's logical for. It is shit logic for stopping gun violence, even if it was proven that increased gun ownership did actually cause more gun violence.

They're working on changing that, trust me. Most enlisted are hard-red but a concerning number of officers are not.

This infringes the right to bear arms.

If you don't understand how: fuck you.

Sage.

probably the same result as making it illegal to sell or produce cocaine.

He was autistic though

>Logic
>Gun control
Statistics aren't on your side for your feefees, ATF nigger.

No I'm not. As I mentioned in prior comments, you would still be able to sell your weapon, or buy existing weapons, or have them passed down.

You've ignored point after point and used your flights of fancy to say 'oh that will never work' to actual solutions with proven results. Then you keep harping on your inane idea which WILL never work, does not stop a single thing, infringes the 2nd amendment, and makes you a dumb fucking shill. How much are they paying you and your pals to test the water with this idea? This is not the first time this exact thread with this exact OP has been made.

>stop the production
But why stop the production? And more importantly, how the hell would you stop black market production?

Commies lose all rights and protections afforded them the moment they attempt to do something to overthrow the government, it doesn't even matter what they call themselves...

The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated: Provided, however, That nothing in this section shall be construed as amending the Internal Security Act of 1950, as amended [50 U.S.C. 781 et seq.]
(Aug. 24, 1954, ch. 886, §3, 68 Stat. 776.)

...

So all you want is to destroy an entire industry and expect 0 economic repercussions to do something that protects 0 people and yet you claim it will solve the problem 'over night'

You are a stupid, stupid shill.

Don't worry, he just proved he is retarded and doesn't actually believe the bullshit he is spewing. He just wants to try to push an agenda.

>Armed guards in schools won't work
lets get them out of banks and airports then

And courts, and high rises, and the capitol building, and cities because honestly police are just armed guards.

Great idea. And let's take guns away from the police too since they kill too many innocent niggers who were just out spreading the word of Jesus Christ.

What if someone doesn’t own them but wants to in the future? Shall not be infringed my man.

I can't remember the last time I've seen an armed guard in a bank.

But in both cases, the architecture makes the difference. A bank is a small building with a single entrance.

Same with airports. It's nearly impossible to get in the building except through security. And when someone does get through, they empty the whole place out.

>Then what is the solution
what is creating homicidal youths?

>Just don’t buy or sell them
good luck tracking that

>Commies lose all rights and protections afforded them the moment they attempt to do something to overthrow the government, it doesn't even matter what they call themselves...
You can say this and give a law but the fact of the matter is that laws don't mean anything, it's only the people that enforce them. If enough politicians and officers are communists then whatever the law is does not matter. The idea is to prevent these so-called revolutionaries from achieving a controlled state in the first place.

Then you'd have to ban 3D printers, steel pipes, machining equipment, blueprints, chunks of steel and aluminum, wood, plastics, and springs.

>Armed guards don't work

The driving premise is to scrutinize any and every law to evaluate whether it has reasonable application
Nowadays, tons of laws fail this standard

quit fantasizing about scenarios that will never happen. Faggot

That's racist! How dare propose a system that would ban firearms from future legal immigrants?

It would be like Bitcoin after all the coins are mined. Guns more valuable than their weight in gold. Or you could just make your own: 80-lower.com/

Apples and oranges. I said that armed guards wouldn't work at schools because the building is too large to be covered by guards, and because there are too many ways in to guard

Then simply increase the number of guards to fit the size of the school, and give them designated patrol areas of the school. Seems to work very well at large military installations.

If the LEOs refuse to enforce it then they have proven themselves complicit and illegitimate. They would be deemed enemy combatants along with the commies. Nice try though.

You already outed yourself by failing to recite your canned lines properly.
Go back to gunning down innocents that don't want to harm their ears so they stuck a coke can on the end of their rifle.

It would be offset by all of the millennial who need to go to the safe room when anyone disagrees with them; who are less likely to be interested in buying up any of the existing weapons. Ivan can still have his AK

>building is too large to be covered by guards
>airports are tiny
So when you're building a new school change its layout to be more defendable, or just hire more security.

>It sure would make it harder though.
would it? another Eric Holder may pass them out for free. Trusting any government 100% is suicide.

exactly. the people of western europe (and their loyal colonist nation-clients) are utterly fucked: completely powerless to put a stop to their own cultural suicides pushed daily by their (((leaders))).

very un-American. sad!

Ya, but that creates its own set of problems. Most school districts can barely keep afloat now, let alone afford 20 guards to cover all the ways in and out.

Not to mention... there has to be a better way of solving the problem than creating an armed fortress. This is the way Israel is doing it now. Who wants to live in Israel?

That implies criminality for owning a firearm. Therefore, you have not fought the logic of my statement. You are making firearms illegal to own. Therefore, the second amendment would not be intact.

You are being disingenuous.

It's a moot point. The Liberator pistol proved you can make springs out of plastic strong enough to set off a primer. Outlaw guns, and in 20 years thanks to 3d printing, you'll see kids with potato guns that fire Rifle Propelled Grenades instead of bullets.

>The driving premise is to scrutinize any and every law to evaluate whether it has reasonable application
>Nowadays, tons of laws fail this standard

>7777

You're right fuck it. Why even have security protocols in schools at all? I mean except for banning white males. That should do it.

That's why the state pays for it. If they can afford to be a gigantic high school, chances are they can afford to pay for armed security.
Better yet, create a local/state/sherrif's unit that is designated specifically to school security. If it save's just ONE LIFE, it's worth the cost, right? That's always the talking point of the grabblers.
>If it saves just ONE LIFE we can afford to do it!

>If the LEOs refuse to enforce it then they have proven themselves complicit and illegitimate. They would be deemed enemy combatants along with the commies
You're missing the point.
Let's say you have a 10 man council. They have a rule that anyone who eats apples should be executed. If one man on the council eats an apple openly, he is almost immediately dealt with. As time passes, and new council members are added to replace older ones, you pick up an apple-eater. He keeps his actions quiet until a total of 4/10 members of the council are also apple eaters. If they're smart, they'll use their positions to increase their numbers. Eventually, because nobody knew or said anything, 8/10 of the council members are apple-eaters. Now they can be public. Even if the remaining 2 members are DEVOUTLY against apples, it does not matter because they are outnumbered. The remaining 8 members execute the final two and the restriction on eating apples is gone forever.

Get it? Maybe that simple metaphor has helped you understand that written laws are meaningless.

>nice try though
???? What exactly am I trying here?

Not here in Michigan. Our school district (still one of the richest whitest in the state) is still going broke because they have a bunch of 50 year old buildings that are 1/2 empty. The state isn't in much better shape.

If we could wave a magic wand and solve any single problem, I'm sure it would be better to solve the question of why youth are so amoral, why many think violence is the answer, why nothing has been done to stop the bullying that produces these crazy people, and why irresponsible parents let their kinds find out the combination to the gun safe.

i wouldnt help theres more guns than ppl

come to the city of brotherly love - we have an armed uniformed police officer assigned to pretty much every bank branch in the city. big costs, especially as these assignments can often be paperworked as 1.5 overtime.

but we got that diversity!!

Worked at cub scout camp as a teen literally supervised 8-10 years shooting lethal weapons,

0 deaths

I understand the premise perfectly well. It doesn't negate my point though. This is the whole reason they keep trying to take our guns away. The long march through the institutions has already been put into motion and been mostly successful. The only thing that has prevented them from going full Mao is the fact that we are so well armed. This is also the reason they keep doing this shit and shooting up large groups of people, they want to scare the public into giving up their firearms. Now they are targeting the children, inflicting trauma in order to shift the overton window further away from personal ownership of firearms.

>Illegal to sell or produce guns
>Second amendment still intact

Pick one.

>solve our mass shooting problem over night

You can't pick this one. This is not an option.

Excuse me for besmirching your home town, but if I ever have to go back to Philadelphia, it will be too soon.

I had to go there 10-20 times on business over the years. Filthy town, dirty streets, nasty people, asshole cops.

I figured out that the whole "city of brother love" business is just a cruel joke.

The only town close to as bad would be Atlanta.

The US will continue to breed violence and apathy:
-As long as teens today are groomed to be narcissistic sociopaths, taking selfies and idolizing superficial and temporary vanity.
-As long as the elder people in the US continue to push their own conservative and liberal agendas, over practical sustainability.
-As long as teens ostracize each other and relentlessly target and harass intended victims, both through technology and at school.
-As long as US society looks down at skilled and physical labor, demeaning entire populations as worthless, and mocking hard work.
-As long as Americans continue to look the other way when they see something wrong, either because they are benefiting from the scam or are too lazy or feckless to speak up.

Eugenics would, solve it overnight

>Im in the lowest % state

DE? RI is pretty low too.

oh didn't even see de

>consider the following
You'd be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome with self tooled and inventively lethal weapons, then you may be Canada for ten minutes then you'll be Venezuela and your final form is you are Mexico full on. Forever.
*Considered. Now just shut up about it and put the blame where it lies. It started on 1st August 1966 in the bell tower at The University Of Texas and (along with serial killing - the division is sophistry for this debates purposes) has grown in proportion with Liberal Culture. Not there's anything liberal about it. Everything we upstanding anonymous heros are against.

What if you made it illegal to produce of sell drugs...
Oh wait
Also backdoor grabbing is still grabbing

youtube.com/watch?v=TK_FiRm6ZK8

Well, you haven't thought it through.

This is the common sense solution.

>there are still guns
>gun violence solved over night
?

Because it is a human right to have access to the means of self defense

yeah. we got problems. and issues.

but the grip of municipal power has never been more fully in the hands of the blacks and their jewish handlers - so i'm pretty sure it's all going to be ok.

Nobody here cares about your homer simpson shill wanabe meme. Stop importing and producing communism, zionism, islamism, pedophilia etc. How bout that?

Just build the fucking wall and you'll gut the importation just by proxy, you colossal retard.
When will you aspies fucking get that?

This is all correct so I'm not sure why you were arguing with me, they want to control the institutions and many leaders in these institutions have progressive beliefs

Orrrrr.... hear me out. You can consider killing yourself and fucking off

What if we outlaw hand grenades and acid attacks in Europe?
>does Europe look down upon the US?

Ever heard of the Vietcong, or the taliban? Even if you were to stand up all the branches, reserves and NG, they would still be out numbered. And thats if none deserted or the state guards didnt tell the federal to fuck off.

I think we may have been thinking the same thing and I misunderstood your post. When LEOs refuse to enforce the laws they are no longer legitimate. It doesn't matter what their "superiors" say.

Yeah, we'll just ban people from buying weapons. That's totally cool under the 2nd amendment.

I really wish you fuckers would try to take the guns so we could get this civil war started and purge you commie filth once and for all.

What would that look like?

>General sir, St. Louis is a hotbed of insurrectionists, easily 10% of the population is rebelling
>Alright, commence the carpet bombing
>300,000 dead
>st louis as an industrial/economic centre wiped out
>China and Russia start pressuring to take action against "out of control regime" in US
>Americans who were on the fence horrified at the hundreds of thousands murdered
>civil war goes from stamping out freedom cells to the government officials on the run from virtually every american citizen

Or maybe they just fight regular old block to block fallujah style and kill 90,000 instead of 300,000

JFC I don't think liberals even contemplate things more than a day into the future. It's like responsibility and consequences for your actions are utterly foreign concepts - "We'll just take all the guns and kill everyone with the military if they say no, it'll be easy" how laughably fucking naive can you get?

Why not just make bullets very expensive but keep guns legal? That way people can still use it for self defense
>inb4 muh ebil government
>inb4 muh gun dik

I'll tell you the solutions, but you won't like them because liberal policies are the causes.

>Drugging our population with SSRI's
>Public education existing as it does in the first place
>The sweeping anti-male attacks and propaganda
>The divorce and marriage courts that award women free shit for nothing
>The broken single-mother households
>The mass immigration bringing incompatible cultures and people into constant close contact and friction with each other

etc. etc. etc.

You say "ban guns" because implementing the actual solutions means admitting your politics are wrong and that you are wrong. Liberals cannot and will not do this. It's better to start a civil war, kill a few tens of millions and force people to accept the removal of their rights, than to admit maybe conservatives have the better ideas.

>implying bubba would get off his couch, stop jerking off to free porn, and leave his meat lover's pizza to fight a years long insurgency

Why don't you ban blacks from owning guns? It's the same thing if you ban poverty stricken people from owning guns.

GTFO Communist Jim Crow. You will end up hanging yourself with your own allies.

The constitution says nothing about the right to be able to afford bullets only to bear arms

How about

>Trump deposed, lead out of white house in handcuffs
>Insurrections ensues
>Less than 25% of the anticipated turnout from militia groups and paramilitary
>Next to zero logistics
>Prepper caches dry up in weeks
>Few defections from the Army / Marines / etc.
>AO's cordoned off and droned
>Insurrection stamped out within weeks.
>Labelled as riots and civil disorder, not a civil war, scapegoated for sweeping gun legislation removing heavy weapons, battle rifles, and restricting civilians to bolt actions / carbines and below.
>Democrats own the government for the next fifty years.

I'd rather not meme, thanks.

This is the kind of nitpicky dweeb rules lawyer type shit that gets you hanged from a tree as people say, "fuck your shit, you're not taking our rights away".

Do you seriously think people can't see through your attempted obfuscation and bullshit? How fucking dumb are you?

In such a scenario, that wouldn't be "democrats own the government for the next fifty years" that would be "america finally turns into the dictatorship democrats have been pushing for". I really don't think you even understand just what you stand for.

Why don't you ban arms then? As in, just put everyone in straight jackets, so they have to beg and plead to be let out (and even then, only for a reason that is "good enough" that is determined by their betters).

There's no right to baking, or owning knives, or watching Netflix on borrowed wi-fi either. So why not put people in straight jackets until they prove that they are going to live "the right way?" Then they can have all the cookies and wi-fi entertainment they want.

Everyone else can scream and be angry in cages. You'd be happy with that, right?

Be a gun owner and told your gun will rust and decay without you being able to replace it or fix it. You would say go fuck yourself, or use 3d printed guns or use household products to make guns. All the gun problems is that shop owners/police/fbi/security are not doing their fucking jobs, and people aren't teaching gun safety to the masses.

Just what I stand for?

I understand the logistics of it. A lot of non military here seem to think it's an easy win against the fed when that's just not true.

We've never had the logistics to support an insurrection, the left has made sure of that. Why do you think tax stamps exist? To ensure the ownership of destructive devices, and heavy weapons to as few a person as possible.

We don't have nearly the kinds of arsenals, supply chains, and fortifications that even the Vietcong or the Taliban had.

Militia and PMG groups all prep for themselves, not for each other. Supply lines would be nonexistant. We wouldn't be importing MANPADS or ATGM's from Canada like the Taliban did with Pakistan, and the Vietcong with China.

You overestimate your average bubba.

I am old enough to Remember the Chris Rock comedy bit. Most here are not.
Nice try meme flag fag

>even contemplate more than a day into the future

evidence of this can be seen in muh russia!! - just make something up - anything! - to get through the news cycle and we'll figure it out tomorrow.

the hbo show veep is pretty much a documentary. sad!

I will kill you if you try it.

What?
>Nic try memeflag
My flag coorlates with my beliefs

Dont be a jew bro.

THE JEW FESRS US, HE ALSO FEARS THE SAMURAI.

we got the numbers but, not all are awakened

The jew always overplays his hand

He is soooooooooo smart

Jew york city, Jew S A

Yeah I bet it does ya faggot

And you had no response to me. What does that say about Communism, then?

>your attempted obfuscation and bullshit?
It’s constitutional if it isn’t prohibited in the consitituion it’s that simple if nothing is against it in the constitution it’s consititional

I support user's position.

If you try to take mine, I will also do that.

If user is dealing with legitimate threat, I wouldn't feel weird providing covering fire from a nearby hill. He might do that for me too.

IEDs m8. also assassinations. F22s can't kick in a door or stand watch on a street corner. Drone pilots have families. We will be far more savage than the IRA ever was.

Whole combat arms units will defect to the rebel side, too. National guard armories have landmines and AT4s.

I'm a former combat engineer and I took enough chemistry in college to make my own explosives from hexamine and nitric acid which I can also make from commercially available ingredients. All I need to fuck up the manuever element of what is left of the government forces (fucking S1 clerks most likely after the infantry and engineers refuse obviously unconstitutional orders,) is a few landmines and IEDs

i can certainly see expected militia turnout to be low. at first.

you're missing steps:

as the arrests begin, violent bombings begin to rip through central urban areas.
then college campuses - faculty buildings.
all of a sudden the entire editorial board of your local (((newspaper))) gets shot down on their ways to work. their houses are burned later.
city councilmen go missing. the friendly deputy district attorney gets his head stomped in. etc. etc. etc. all of a sudden, the war doesn't seem so sanitary.

you don't want to meme. fuck you.

that's the beautiful thing about a modern insurrection. there is no call up. what few men are left in our Republic will be compelled by truth to act, and will act indipendently of any command structure except for a few reliable friends. It will be both beautiful and savage.

I totally agree, Basically the plot of "The Patriot" will come to fruition.

>you may still own guns
>you just cannot buy or sell them
This is a surefire way to make 3D printing technology develop exponentially faster.

Every time you shills post this thread another user buys a gun, you realize that right?
Keep poking the bear liberal faggots.

this sounds like you expect the patriots to be waiting for the quartermaster to hand down some socks before they stupidly line up in rows to be shot down.
our lands are the most bountiful on earth. we will supply ourselves.

the targets will mainly be civilian. maximize pain. let loose chaos.

start w the electrical infrastructure. then target local/state/regional politicians and beuracrats. the media will be all too easy to target. and all too deserving.

pain, pain, pain.

>another user buys a gun
Honestly why do you do this? Do you realize that LARPing as an edge lord just makes you look like an idiot?

triangulation. you two need a third.

and he WILL be there.

What mass shooting problem?

you mean like murdering babies?

Absolutely!
Ban scalpels and coat hanger quacks! HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of UNARMED children MURDERED at the hands of leftist shit.
MAKE IT STOP !

This is now a campus racewar thread.
Post tips to help fellow anons kills as many Jews, niggers and mutts at your school before the cops arrive.
Don't forget to stay alive so we can break you from jail when race war goes viral.
HH

>What is machining them yourself?
>What is the black market?
>What is a hardware store?

FUCK THAT SHIT

youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew

and they will know their own.
and they will seek savagery.
and they will not stop until satisfaction is had.

death to traitors.
long live the Republic!

yes. again.
but with a zaqarwi like twist - set upon a weak and fragile enemy.
their flow of tears will be swamped by their rivers of blood.

Gun lobby wouldn't like it, legislation wouldn't stand a chance in hell passing it or even being signed by the president.

...

yeah, taking away people's rights doesn't work because people are willing to fight for their rights, but you aren't willing to fight to take them.

the 2nd amendment exists so you can't destroy the 2nd amendment or any other amendment without us being able to shoot you for being a tyrant poof.

>Why don't we just get rid of one of the biggest businesses that the US still has.

Huh? Are you a russian bot, by any chance?

I was MotorT. IED's are psychologically devastating. Ten years later and pot holes still make me sweat.

Got my MI CPL but it is white. Hope the Constitutional carry passes here

>Maybe we could have a special license you need to make or manufacture them legally.

>Implying this doesn't already exist.

Then again you live in burgerland so maybe it doesn't.

maybe, deep down, we are free enough to not give a shit about licenses when it comes to the bedrock of our liberty.

good luck up there. enjoy your diversification!

Consider the following......um a gunsmith.

in burgerland it is totally legal to make guns in your home as long as you don't intend on selling them.

Or do the world a favor and go eat a tide pod and die?

user, I feel sad for Canadacucks tho. without us, they're Canadafuxxed. they'll be fighting with shiv's made of animal bone,while we watch China invade them proper, butt at least we won't be rushing to conclusions about our next war; amirite tho?

>we completely halt
>we
So you're willing to use violence and threats of violence if people put their own property into shapes you think are "sufficiently" gun-like, is what you're saying.

You're a thug.

The second that the military started taking action against civilians on US soil there would be one hell of a civil war. And thats IF the soldiers would even fire on their friends/family/loved ones...

The Mexican cartels would stop running drugs and start running guns. Then what?

The quote you a referring to was discussing the ability of the government to collect taxes in lieu some rich guy would pay for security.

Reddit scum get out of here

Ok I agree as long as I can produce as many firearms I wish for any person that may posses one legally free of charge.

You stupid bastard. Kill yourself, stop shit posting this is how the media feeds bad info to the stupid general public. You are a part of a problem bigger than "mass shooters".

Yeah that would happen. Its not too hard to learn how to make/repair guns. Even easier to teach once you know.

What it means is when someone (like Antifa) engages in rioting, and they're waving the hammer and sickle, it is entirely legal for any american citizen to shoot them,

If im reading that correctly. If I AM reading it correctly, why hasn't someone mowed down the antifa hordes then cited that law and walked away?

"Im following the law, to the letter. Arresting me is unconstitutional."

It'll make it through to the Governor, look at how red the state is, except for parts of Detroit and Little Pakistan.

Easy solution is to just arm every teacher. You've already hired them to teach, giving them guns allows them to protect their students, and themselves, without hiring any extra staff.

You can already 3D print guns bois.

How about we drop everyone like you out of a helicopter.

Then people will machine guns in their garage and make a killing in the black market

We can only imagine, I've been there and they've a MASSIVE problem, ordinary citizens essentially have no rights at all, the gov't is corrupt as fuck, the police are crooked or lazy, criminals rule the streets, terrorists've a haven in the countryside and the military is poorly armed and the commanders are either inept or corrupt themselves. We can produce enough guns by HAND to arm small armies like the 600 medieval pedo's who stormed Marawi city and took HALF a fucking year to drive out with the cost being nearly half the city destroyed. Add in even basic machinery or 3D printers and we're ALREADY producing enough to arm between 1-10 million people. A full repeal of the 2A would only cause the equivalent of a super volcanic eruption in the black market and a whole new and VERY profitable area of business for everyone's favorite group of Mexican criminals. An area that they've MORE than the capability to fund and WAY MORE than enough money and physical power to silence even the most patriotic cops.

see

Then put either more or better trained or better armed or allow teachers to concealed carry or better yet ALL OF THE PREVIOUS in schools.

What if we made it illegal to publish anything on the Internet advocating gun control?

You could still talk about it, but you couldn't spread your treasonous views to anyone else. Boom, the first amendment is still intact, and we solve the problem of liberals overnight.

>Look, there's nothing we can do about the fact that some people in this society are homicidal and suicidal. We're just going to have to realize that anybody, anywhere, at anytime, will use any means at his or her disposal to murder as many people as possible for no reason.
>This means that if we get rid of the guns, it will solve the problem.
If it's really the case that we're powerless to stop citizens from wanting to kill everybody and then themselves, then the notion of society in the first place is faulty. The only options would be to avoid society in the first place, to put everyone in society behind bars such that they can't do any damage to each other, or regress to a sort of Amish society in the hopes that whatever causes people to become mass murderers is due to modernity. There are no alternatives. Humans are exceptionally gifted at killing. They can use knives, baseball bats, vehicles, arson, or even homemade bombs. Getting rid of our guns because of mass shootings would be like removing all of the metal in our homes in order to avoid attracting lightning.

china has already established a beachhead in the canadian west.
the great white north is lost.
they've killed themselves. or, at least, they are in the process of doing so.

people talk about how much better America would be if our left coast seceded - but that only gives us an enemy on our left flank. one that will never stop.

enemies to the north. enemies to our west. enemies to our south (don't forget those fuck ups who gave up all control to trans-national cocaine traffickers).

the war will be here.

but then again, the war is going to be everywhere.

make sure to hate-punch a leftist today. they deserve it!

This is what I don't get about the gun confiscators: why the hell do you assume that in a civil war it will be the army and the police versus gun owners?

It's not going to be the army versus gun owners in the civil war you're trying to create. It's going to be gun owners versus YOU. All a militia has to do is start killing people who support gun control. It's not like you're even armed. Gun owners don't have to sit in their houses quietly waiting for the police (who are mostly Republican) to come take their guns. They can go on offense. You're going to have to be your own army. Democratic judges, politicians, the people on Twitter screeching to take away gun owners' rights. The second the gun confiscation laws pass, you guys are all on the wrong side of the violent civil war, and you're all targets.

You want this WHY? You really think the 20 million "from my cold dead hands" portion of the population has any problems with killing you off in a civil war? I'd die to protect my 2nd Amendment rights. I'd also kill to protect them, too. If more liberals understood this, they'd probably be posting less "let's you and him fight!" threads on gun confiscation. No, YOU'RE the enemy in this civil war, not the police.

>gun owners versus YOU

well said!

sage

Leftists can't fathom doing anything themselves. Their entire mindset is to have the government do everything for them. Even in their fantasy of taking away guns it isn't them taking the guns away. It is government employees doing it for them.

Leftists have a mental disorder that makes them dependent on the government for EVERYTHING. It is basically a form of prolonged childhood where the state becomes their new parents. They want to be coddled from cradle to grave and protected from the big mean scary world.

they'd bring tacos?

Yes making guns artificially so expensive through supply and demand the average person would never be able to afford one isn't infringement.

We are beginning a test. Consider citizen against citizen but the system stand intact.

I think maybe liberals need to be made to understand that this particular little violent war fantasy they have isn't going to go how they think it is. I'm not in a militia, but I have hung out with militia guys, and they are legit not going to have problems killing off the gun control crowd (either morally or logistically). Most of these guys are ex-military. They are literally prepping right now to fight this war and the only reason they haven't is because they know these laws aren't a realistic prospect. It is not a smart idea to try to ban guns, and if a bunch of idiot politicians decide to try it, you don't want to be on the public record as supporting it. It's like yelling "hey, put me on a hit list for this Civil War I'm trying to start!"

SHALL NOT INFRINGE

You are such a low skill retard that you can't imagine ever being able to manufacture one yourself.

the solution is to not be a fucking faggot

also bring back marksmanship classes to school

It doesn't matter, people will 3D print guns. there's a torrent for one out there

Nigger, no! I like burgerguns!
I'm itchin for the new Ruger mark IV with integral suppression.

>solve our mass shooting problem
How does the same amount of guns keep from a shooting happening?

Warfare that's not even properly happening anymore. Syrian skirmishes can't even serve as an appetizer to the
starving US arms industry. American economics are omegafucked, and without private gun buyers they would be even more omegafucked.

Nazis were armed to the teeth and got crushed. Any blood&soil faggot militia today will be crushed even faster.

what if we made it illegal to talk about banning rights?
I bet congress would pass that bill.

Again, your fantasy war isn't going to be the pro-gun U.S. military versus its pro-gun citizens. The reality would be the pro-gun citizens in a guerilla war against the unarmed anti-gun citizens. The liberals aren't going to last very long in this civil war they seem to want so badly.

Pence is now President and he has zero tolerance for faggotry. Enjoy FEMO camp

>the black market doesn't exist

these idiots that hate the police think the police will be on their side when shtf. I have bad news for them. Police and military will be throwing antiguners in FEMA camps.

I think this is why the Supreme Court is so hesitant to take any kind of gun case. They know they'd be targets.