You can't have white nationalism

You can't have white nationalism in America, just like you couldn't have it in South Africa. The only place you can secure for your identity is EUROPE. Otherwise, you seem like hypocritical fools.

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lets get this to page 10

Antartica is ripe for the taking

True, but this is if you ascribe to humanism, although most people on this board pick and choose when they like to be humanist and not.

You're not wrong.

What the fuck is white nationalism? Sounds pretty american.

Stop grouping all europeans into one group. There is a reason why we have been in constant war with eachother for the whole history.

South Africa was largely uninhabited, similarly to Argentina and Australia.

No humans are indigenous to North America. The first people to arrive were actually early europeans on the east coast 25,000 years ago, between 10-15,000 years before the Asiatic tribes migrated over.

The US was 90% white until 1965, and that didn't stop because of some war or invasion, the government chose to change immigration policies (and Europe was doing it at the same time). Conceivably it's perfectly possible to maintain an overwhelmingly white nation in North America, it was done for centuries.

It is concievable but it is illegitimate imperialism.

It's still part of Africa. Imposing segregation was unjust.

Genetically, they're grouped quite closely together compared to non-Europeans (though there are pockets around southern europe closely related to north africa/the middle east

Japanese, Korean, and Chinese people have always fought, but if I showed you ten people and asked, "which one is East Asian", I don't think you'd have much difficulty with it.

Not for that reason. Real reason is that Amerimutts are 56%-mulattos-in-denial

>La Cretura

White Racist segregation was also wrong in South Africa.

Imperialism is ruling over other peoples, having an overwhelmingly white state ouwide of Europe doesn't necesitate that.

Ethnicity is more than skin color. And yes, I can tell a difference between pureblooded europeans, we all look distinct. There is a reason why almost all of us have our own languages, vastly different from each other, our cultures, mannerism etc.

It does. It means oppressing the non-White population you nutcase.

>It's still part of Africa

Europe and Asia are the same continent

The blacks in South Africa are more related to other blacks then they are to Dutch imperialists.

we need to IP ban all burgers, They can't go 10minutes without posting retarded shit.

You're a Chinese Finn. Get off your high horse.

the Dutch settled a completely uninhabited area of Africa and negroids moved in afterwards, not even close to the same situation of the Americas retard

Not necessarily. Most of North America was unpopulated or close to it before heavy European settlement. And you don't need to have non-white people included within the boundaries of your nation.

Tf? You think stealing other races land is okay? What happened to the concept of Blood and Soil?

Both situations are unjust.

Segregation is oppression. That's what they did in the South. Segregation.

(you)

Mongrelization is a result of imperialism. Although I assure you, I don't have any black or Asian in me.

>Turks can't have Turkish nationalism unless they move back to the Central Asian Steppe
And yet they still continue to be nationalists anyway. There's nothing saying that one piece of land belongs to any group of people indefinitely. Ownership of anything is enforced, not inherent.

What year is your cutoff for migrations of peoples where the land they end up in can be considered their legitimate territory?

Turkic peopes originate in the Asian steppe; they are not in anyway native to Anatolia. Does this mean Turkey is an illegitimate nation?

The bantu are not native to most of Africa, they swept across the continent in a stunningly bloody conquest.

>let me tell you about muh ancestry report!!

Imperialism stopped being acceptable when America was doing it.

And taking over a whole new continent is not the same as taking over a region you are in.

I didn't say segregation. You can deport them from your nation altogether.

You can't just take someone else's land.

how is settling completely uninhabited land unjust?
are all the migrations throughout human history unjust to you?

Well Mexico was independent since 1821. So robbing their territory was wrong.

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But YOURE the invader, the alien force and the occupier. It isn't YOUR nation.

South africa didnt exist as country or place where people lived until the europeans settled it apart from a few khosian tribes, who are pretty chill and got on o.k. with the boers. If anything the bantu invaders are the imperialists, coming down through to the tip from the congo genociding all in their path. The fact of the matter is that nations such as the united states or south africa or australia did exist until they were brought into being by the white man. The land is ours. Any attempt t disposses us should be met with forceful retribution.

>hypocritical fools
so?

Well you're attacking like the Dutch didn't have wars with the blacks.

Every single square inch of habitable land on Earth, 100% of it without a single
exception, was at some point taken from someone

Nothing wrong with separate and equal systems. Everyone gets to support their own respective tribal communities.

if the blacks attacked first then they were just in defending themselves

Texas chose to willingly seccede and join the usa. No one lived near new mexico

>hypocritical fools.
just tribal

You're also an occupier, although I would agree that the Abos are a repugnant population. Your White Australia policy was unjust and any attempt to reverse the Asiatizing of Australia is a monstrous imposition.

is it true 100% of jews are mongrels?

Just don't call yourself National Socialists who believed in Blood and Soil.

What do you mean? Whose nation would it be? No people are indigenous to North America, different peoples came to it from different continents, Europeans being the first ones to ever get there, and fought each other and amongst themselves for control of territory. There was no United States of America before it was declared.

But when America was doing it, if stopped being acceptable.

>Imperialism stopped being acceptable when America was doing it.
And imperialism will come back into fashion once the West is dead and nothing can stop the Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc from colonizing Africa again. Imperialism, racism, etc are all only taboo in nations that have enlightenment ideals. Do you think the Japanese feel bad about their empire? Nope. Arabs about their caliphate? Nope. What about the only non-enlightenment European nation, Russia: Nope.
Face it. Once the West dies, Western values like human rights and rights in general will die with it.

>And taking over a whole new continent is not the same as taking over a region you are in.
It's really no different.

Yes...whites can have their separate tribal system in Europe. You're a thief!

There were essentially forced into it with their back against the wall, same with the rest of the south

Tribal? A white outside of Europe is an invader!

And also in every other Anglosphere country.

Guess whats the difference between us? My blood is pure, my roots have always been in the area called Finland, there has been one swede in my ancestry in the past 22 generations. I dont care if you consider me as a white or not, because I identify as a finn in the first place.

You have no roots, you are a mix, a mutt. Only thing you can be proud of is that your ancestors have all had white skin.

Mexico never accepted the secession or the annexation.

How was Mexico legitimate? Spain took control of that land, then Mexico rebelles against them. Then the US went to war with Mexico, Mexico lost, the US paid them millions of dollars and Mexico signed over control of land to them.

You didn't answer the question about Turkey

Indians were there longer. I don't care about a prehistoric white precense.

> You can't have white nationalism in America, just like you couldn't have it in South Africa.
Oh yes we can. We just have to remember who we really are and find our balls. And remember that we are conquerors of the planet.
And once we remember all that, we'll start killing off everyone else again and have glowing societies and empires again.
Something the other races can barely manage at best.

The Japanese were in their region. They threw out the Dutch and Anglo imperialists.

It really IS different.

The Russians in Syria are monstrous imperialists and hopefully their overreach will lead to the liberation of Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine.

So land belongs to whoever was there longer? This means you would want to kick the Bantu out of most of Africa

Still robbery outside of England, you invader.

Pure Chinese lmaaaaao

>We just have to remember who we really are
You are all mixed race. You have conquered nothing.

Yes they did, and received a shitload of money for it

No we're not all mixed race you fucking idiot.
> believing jew memes

t. 1/64 irish 1/12 french 1/12 german 1/1 mutt

Mexico is a mixture of Indigenous and Spanish heritage. The Anglos always were more ruthless to the Commanche Indians than the Mexicans acted towards them.

Turkey? Anatolia and Mongolia are closer to each other then England and America.

bitch I’ll have it wherever the fuck I want and your faggot ass isn’t gonna stop me

Bantus are more related to the Blacks then you invaders are.

Most of you are, and you keep mixing it up all the time. Are you really saying that both of your parents have ancestors from the same country?

>my roots have always been in the area called Finland

No they haven't, no humans are indigenous to Finland. It was completely covered in ice sheets only a few thousand years ago.

>if you don't want to be turned into a hated minority in your home, it means you are proud of the color of your skin

What?

>The Japanese were in their region. They threw out the Dutch and Anglo imperialists.
Kek. I'm sure the Chinese really care so much about whether Japan was still "in their region".

Saying it doesn't make it so. If someone comes along with a bunch of guns and you can't stop him or find someone else who can to help you, whatever he takes is his. Possession is 100% of ownership.

No, they didn't. Pancho Villa and El Chapo are liberators. They are poisoning the imperialist occupiers and every day, California and Texas become more Mexican.

> ancestors from the same country?
LMFAO!
Seen you do this already....
> t. 1/64 irish 1/12 french 1/12 german 1/1 mutt
Let me explain something to your stupid fucking ass. Those are nationalities dumb fuck. Not races. French is not a fucking race of people. British is not a race of people you mongoloid.
Dumb....ass.

t. fagoli finn

No. America had slavery after Europe stopped.

Occupier implies that we a imperialistic minority population imposing our will on the native ethnic mjaority. That is clearly not the case. The fact of the matter is that no one is magically entitled to land because they got there first. Rights do not exist. History is replete with such cases where the native populace is unable to adapt and is replaced. This is not suddenly going to change just because "enlightenment" fags commit the intellectual equivelent of sniffing their own farts. It doesnt matter whether or not I throw in my lot with such values as they will not protect me. The intent to dispossess and kill me there irrespective of how much I conccede. It is far better that I get you to admit that your intent is to kill and disposses me, so that everyone will know where they stand.

Ice age ended 11 000 years ago, people considered to be finnish have been living in the current location for over 10 000 years.

Oh noez... not slavery! Once again, your "Western values" are going to die in the future. Slavery will probably be seeing an overt comeback throughout the world in the coming century.

We should nuke all of africa

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No one is dispossessing or killing you. You have a land called England if you aren't willing to share your ill-gotten gains of Australia.

Yes they are, and they have distinct looks, different ways of thinking, different characteristics. Only americans use blanket term "white" on all of europe.

>Turkey? Anatolia and Mongolia are closer to each other then England and America.

I know OP is trolling but I have to point out that no, actually, they aren't.

Lol.

Your either a jew

Or brown

No, no. Saudi Arabia banned slavery in 1961 and China is a very principled society.

>oh no, we cant have white countries because we might be called hypocritical
fuck off jose

Maybe, but the original people are no longer here so your point is moot.

No there is no such thing as the British race. Or the French race. Or the German race.
You're a dumb fuck.
And for that matter, in this regard, I'd assume Europe has every bit as much mutt mixing as you call as we do. You all live RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. Do not pretend for a second you fuckers aren't mixing it up left and right and all over.
Stupid as hell.
But it's not a worry because race is not some magical thing that exists within a countries borders. Idiot.

You're definitely not in your native land, though.

America isn't a white land, Cleetus.

The Mexicans are more original then you. And they are retaking their birthright much as you Alt-Righties screech.

Not really. The Aztecs were more central America than the northern Hemisphere but nice try.

>sweden

>british is not a race
>french is not a race
But there are many subpopulations under those banners. From anglo to norman to celt. There are very real distinctions between these populations. There is no shame in admitting that you are mixed race. You have to be honest. I am, i am hlf slavic and half norman. Miscegnetion espcially between closely related populations is not so bad but it does have a noticeble effect through outbreeding depression.

>Do not pretend for a second you fuckers aren't mixing it up left and right and all over.

We are not, its a minority that mix with a person from a different country in europe, and has been in the history too. You can find genetic differences between almost every european country, some bigger than others. And again, its not just genetics, its roots, its the way of life. When you mix up you give up all of these. Language barrier is the thing that keeps mixing at bay, in america thats not a problem and people dont care if their wife is from france and your heritage is from italy.

>screech

Still more native then a bunch of Anglo-Germanics.

>hypocritical
why?

Because you LARP as Nazis, who believed in Blood and Soil.

>can't have
the white man will decide what he can and can't have. nobody else.

Hypocrisy os the bread and butter of every wh*Te subhuman. All we can do is pray for their extinction. Amon!

What is an Alt-Rightie? Well, that's like your opnion man and like a butthole everyone has one.

Amen!

And Germany in World War 1 wanted to give Texas and California back to Mexico.

White americans paid in blood for the soil beloning to savages. Would you prefer America remained a desert with prarieniggers skinning eachother alive?

White men bought, paid, fought and died for this land.

You don't know shit and just say things are unjust like a broken record.

You actually believe in the Zimmerman Telegram?

There is not room to send back the total populations from the anglosphere. That would be dispossessing the british that live there now by a foreign population. Besides this land is ours. We made it. Admit that you want to take what is mine and make it yours. Own it you servile little bitch.

Millennial spotted.
You lost your way when they stopped teaching Civics, and American history only glossed over Rosa parks and Martin Luther Kang.
Prove me wrong, pro-tip you can't.

You kind of fought for it...you also imported black slaves to it. Methinks Hitler would not have imported blacks to his Reich.

I believe the Nazis met with Indian nationalists and supported Indonesia against the Dutch.

What does this have to do with Hitler? America belongs to the white man because the white man conquered it.

American can absolutely be a whitopia because it was founded by whites.

Whites build the US, not the Comanches.

Vote in nationalist parties. Move to Northern Ireland. Move to the parts of America that weren't stolen (the 13 colonies and the South.) But don't claim that stolen land is yours.

No I have friends in Europe and it's not rare at all. People intermarry between each other all the time on the European continent. French marry Spanish. Spanish marry German. I dated a Norwegian girl once myself.
You're full of shit. And no one considers any of that " race mixing " except your stupid ass because you honestly thing
> nationality is race

Mexico was not a colonial subject of America like India was to Britain.

Nah, Hitler referred to the "white race", as did Kipling and many European writers, including Scandinavian ones. White is a broad umbrella term for MANY people and ethnicities. This weird LARP that only Americans can recognize white people is nonsensical.

As I mentioned before, if I showed
you ten people and told me to pick the black one, or the East Asian one, I think you'd be able to do it pretty easily. That doesn't mean that Korean, Japanese, and Chinese ethnicities don't also exist.


"French" is a mixture of gauls, latins, franks, bretons..."English" is mixture of celts, jutes, angles, danes, norwegians, saxons...and so on for most countries in Europe (and the world). It's just a question of how far back you want to go.

Blood and Soil.

Well you didn't really have nationalism, because you imported black slaves.

Mexico was an independent state robbed of 60% of it's land.

North America is Atlantis, home and promised land of the White Man since the Solutreans were First Nations.

All you mutts and leafs
in Europe we do not call it white nationalism.. we simply call it being a patriot. The whole white nationalism thing is an anglo thing

America belongs to whites because they settled it.

It's not oppression if they aren't even under our rule. If we forced the non-whites to agree to a partition of America, how would that be imperialism of oppression?

Why do you think I should care if you think I'm hypocritical?

But Australia/New Zealand isn't and South Africa which you guys love LARPing for, wasn't.

What are you even babbling on about? The modern conception of nationalism comes from the 19th century and slaves were imported two centuries prior to that.

You think the founding fathers would've wanted to keep the blacks after they saw all the damage they did?
>robbed
It fought a war, lost and was compensated by the United States who wanted to purchase the land in the first place. The frontier places like California/New Mexico/Texas were completely uninhabited by Mexicans at the time of the Mexican-American War because of Indian aggression.

>The only lands you're allowed to have are the lands that historically belong to your ancestors. :^) Conquest is bad, strength is bad, just sit in Europe for the rest of eternity while niggers live like literal animals and completely ignore all of their natural resources because they're too fucking stupid.

Why do non-whites and Europeans always think like this? It's the typical Varg-esque Euro mentality where he goes off on how much he loves niggers that live in Africa and how they're perfectly adapted for Africa and whites never should have left Europe.

Force the Mexicans on a partition of their own land? No way. You bought the original 13 colonies and the South. You stole the Southwest unjustly and Mexicans are taking it back through the Greencard, not the Sword.

Because you have a Swastika when the Nazis clearly believed in BLOOD and SOIL.

Well for Varg its because Scandinavians have been completely irrelevant for a thousand years. Western Europeans and Americans literally controlled the world a hundred years ago. We should've exterminated all the nonwhites back then.

Indian aggression...ON THEIR OWN LAND.

America didn't ban segregation until 1965.

So you are admitting black people are stupid?

There were less than a hundred thousand actual Mexicans in the territory ceded in 1848. Most of them were of Spanish stock and integrated into white American society, like the Californios and (to an extent) the Tejanos were.

>their own land
Mexico owned the land and were driven out by the Comanche. Why do you think Mexicans begged Americans to come settle in Texas?

"Ethnonationalism" is a better term. Patriotism is a fine term when tiur country is homogenous, but if Croatia ever becomes 56% Croatian, and some of the Turks and Africans and Arabs also believe they are Croatian patriots, it starts to lack something.

In the last few centuries, since different racial groups started to have consistent global encounters and awareness of
one another, many northern europeans referred to "white people". The concept and perspective is not an American invention.

>Not hearing of trade.
>Not hearing about historical alliances between Turks and Germans.

Try harder.

> You stole the Southwest unjustly and Mexicans are taking it back through the Greencard, not the Sword.
Yay. More Mexico. Just what the world needs.
What's your excuse after they turn that into a putrid shithole and come running north to where all the white people are again?

Still not your land.

Wrong

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The Anglos were much more brutal to the Commanches then the Mexicans were.

It's your land if you take it. That's the only thing that matters.

Go back to the beginning of agriculture and you will see groups of people settle down and not mix up that much.

You dont know jack shit, guess a reason why average germans and spanish people dont marry each other? Because they cant fucking understand eachother, their english is poor. Statistics show that intermarriage is about 5-6% in EU of all marriages.

How is it their land when their own government gave it to us in exchange for money in their own land? Virtually none of today's Hispanics were here before 1848.

we can have dead niggers and joos though

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Mexico is a shithole because of Anglo imperialism. Mexico is getting it's lebensraum.

No, the Mexicans were incapable of banding together organized resistance to the Comanche. Mexicans are an extremely brutal little bunch of goblins.

Fun fact: Europeans didn't originate in Europe. They come from central Asian steppe that is currently Russian territory. We conquered it, just like we conquered North and South America, and near Earth orbit. No one here was even using land for primitive farming. Natives weren't even using the land as nomadic herdsmen. They were just hunter gatherers that sometimes followed wild herds, hunting them to extinction.

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I realize it's hard for you to wrap your fetal alcohol syndrome brain around, but try to concentrate here. There was no "nation" here until Europeans arrived; nationalism is one of many European innovations.

Oh, it's ours sweetie.

Not if you believe in Blood and Soil.

Define "Blood and Soil" because you keep using it like it's some sort of magic word to petrify "Nazi Larpers".

> Statistics show that intermarriage is about 5-6% in EU of all marriages.
Source.

You annexed Texas, Mexico didn't recognize that annexation, then took 60% of Mexico.

Mexico has been getting back everyday whether through the freedom fighter Pancho Villa's raids or through the drugging of America by El Chapo.

You shed blood to own soil, what is so hard to understand?

No because the Commanche were (partial) blood-brothers of the Mexicans.

>Mexico is a shithole because of Anglo imperialism
Oh sweet Jesus my fucking sides. Mexico is a shithole because it's full of mestizos. They were ritually ripping each others' hearts out by the thousands just a few hundred years ago.

And this is my soil. I have no special connection to any European nation, and my last immigrant ancestor came over in 1850. There is nowhere I can actually go.

Nah, whites built the United States and were 90% of the population up until 1970. It's ours.

Yes and Mexico was an independent nation in 1821. Try harder?

That's retarded, Indians slaughtered eachother for thousands of years and they did it even when they were mixed up little mestizo-goblins.

this is what I've been saying since '15, lmao

they'll find out truth soon hopefully when America is overrun with ((shitskins))

Yeah...and what about importing black slaves?

emnbelgium.be/sites/default/files/attachments/eurostat_mixed_marriages.pdf

> Mexico is a shithole because of Anglo imperialism.
If we'd been imperial and conquered Mexico it'd be a lot nicer actually. Anglos don't do the Aztec choppy choppy the Mexicans seem to enjoy.

What Jewish logic is this?

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I'm sure you can trace them back far enough if you decide you want to live amongst your own kind and not in the great melting pot of the world.

I'm not an anglo. I'm norman. My people conquered and own the english people. You are strikingly ignorant of australian history. Australia did not exist as a country so it could not be stolen. We made it. Before then you had a power vaccuum of scarcely related tribes who dispossed one another (triwave migration). What makes us any different? Why are we held in such high regard? Because we did not castrate them all and make them like slaves like arabs would? Or genocide them like the chinese would? You are a rent seeking faggot that will die in bloodshed with the violent rhetoric you espouse, and you are so weak willed you will not even own it.

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Sure they did. But some also saw the whites as the imperial criminals that they were and didn't trust them for a day.

>Mexico was an independent nation
So? They couldn't hold their territory, so by the laws of nature, it wasn't theirs.

Who are you to tell people what they can and cannot do?

Mexico has been a shithole virtually since independence, long before America could project power beyond the Mississippi. What the fuck are you talking about?

Anyone who d&c is a servant for the Jew

Blacks were in the wrong place at the right time and it profitted a few white and jewish slave traders and slaveowners. It was a detriment to the nation any white nationalist will admit.

This still doesn't refute any concept of America being worth fighting and dying for by the descendants of european settlers, colonists and conquerers.

This universe belongs to the white man, all other beings are simply our guests.

Jewish? My friend it is the logic or Adolf Hitler, who supported Indian nationalism against Britain and Indonesian nationalism against Holland.

Be aware, OP is literally trolling

Doesn't mean you can't have fun with the thread, but take note of that

Show us your flag, good friend of mine.

When you break treaties, you're a thief.

FUCK YOU NIGGER

youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew

When America was practicing imperialism, it wasn't acceptable anymore.

>what about importing black slaves?
Importing shit quality farm equipment? How is that related?

It had great artists like Diego Rivera and Freda Khalo. The fuck are you talking about?

Blacks made a small group of people very rich for a few generations. Most of that wealth was squandered in the civil war and blacks have been absolutely fucking useless ever since. They've cost us more than they ever made for us, and that's been true for a very long time.

I have no problem going back to Europe and I have told everyone who calls me a "racist" the same thing.

Except when we go back, you don't get to follow and all the non whites there have to leave. All of a sudden they don't want you to go back to Europe and are talking about how multicult is so great.

You're aggressors.

Segregation was illegitimate.

Nature is aggressive.

Why didn't the Nazis import black slaves?

And now spics have a far better quality of life in the Southwestern US compared to Mexico. What's your point?

What do artists have to do with a god damned thing? Do they make a country rich and peaceful?

What does that mean? Blacks were not considered US citizens by the Supreme Court in the 1850s when Dredd Scott was passed.

Yeah right.

And you want to deport them, don't you?

> Thus, marriages between foreign-born persons from different countries are not considered as mixed here.
From the very thing you linked mother fucker.
You are just stupid as hell.
>emnbelgium.be/sites/default/files/attachments/eurostat_mixed_marriages.pdf
Read it carefully bitch.

Fuck that passive bullshit. We should be making white colonies in Africa and South America.

I didn’t know Comanches wrote the constitution

No, it should have been followed to its logical conclusion and ended in the blacks getting an independent state carved out of parts of the South

>Mexico never accepted
So? Who cares about the spics? Thanks to fags like you we have to kick them out AGAIN

Sorry friend. It isn't your land to do that.

White nationalism is a mutt invention. It doesn't exist and should exist. White is not an ethnic group and whites don't share enough to form a viable nation state built on nationalism.

>classic divide and conquer
Pathetic

Niggers need to be exterminated

youtube.com/watch?v=tIeEotdOVew

That's a separate issue. You're acting like colonialism and imperialism are bad.

I thought you said the south was ours, did you not?

Your right op its halarious to see these mutts go all 1488 and muh blood and soil when their own filthy ancestors fleed shithole europe for other areas of the world

What if blacks wanted to live in a multi-racial society?

How retarded are Cred Forumstards? South Africa was inhabited for long before the Portuguese arrived.

Why? What good reason could they have for that? How would it be worth it for us at all?

Are you LARPing as la raza faggot or what? As for treaties? Merely preambles to conflict. Various tribes unprovokedly attacked us and we fought in kind. Theft implies slight of hand, not the case here. We earned this land with blood sweat and tears.

You're right a segregated South would be legitimate. I'll change my opinion: I'm neutral on a black state in the South. It would be much more healthy however for a white state to be in Europe and a black state to be in Africa.

Where the fuck would you deport them to? A lot of nonwhites don’t have citizenship in any other nation.

>very principled society
I prefer not to pay for breathable air

Bare-naked aggression is still monstrous.

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There you go you cunt, now you can go fuck yourself.

>independent state from the south
>given to niggers
Why would we intentionally destroy a state?

>whites dont have the freedom of association
>browns have a right to whites

And give everything else to the Mexicans? Fat fucking chance. Our state, if it comes, will be on this continent.

Um...yeah you don't have the right to segregation on someone else's land.

Sending them to Africa would be logistically impossible.

>to where
If their niggers Africa if their spics Mexico. Simple

What the fuck even is a white ethnostate? White isn't an ethnicity.

Look we all know that Indians wrote the constitution and didn’t eat each other. Shakespeare was Indian desu

You can have a little New England, Moonrise Kingdom-esqe thing going on in like Massachusetts and the original 13 colones that were taken noblely through trade and treaties.

there's a black guy in that first photo you fucking dult

>impossible
No it isn't. We've done it before we can do it again. This time we'd do it right

*theyre

>ec.europa.eu/social/BlobServlet?docId=3953&langId=en
That shows it's quite high in fact.
If you actually read it. You fuckers are marrying each other left and right and having what you define as mutt babies.

The Dutch built Cape Town after the West Africans wiped out the bush people who previously lived there. Then blacks came back in slowly, which is why they had segregation. Over many decades the black population became too much and voted for Mandela to fuck the evil white man.

South Africa was a white nation until the blacks stole it from them.

Why don't you go back to Europe?

>Doesn't know what white is
Hello Sargoy

>noblely
who the fuck cares? You shouldn't base your races existence off of some moral authority.

Plenty of dead cultures and civilizations were "in the right" and still lost.

Nope, white as we think of it is a valid biological construct. Also white nationalism was brought into mainstream politics by the founding fathers who weren't mutts of and thought of white and black in the same way we do.

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1. Segregation in another race's home.
2. You're implying the Dutch never had wars with the blacks.

Human nature is monsterous. We live in a fallen World. I want to fix that, but if we are held back then the endless cycle of conflict and collapse and bloodshed will continue likely until the hominiod race is extinct.

There are plenty of ways of creating lebensraum and energy to support us all, but the elites and their pawns hold us back. They will kill us all when we are useless to them unless we act.

And no white people in the second photo you fucking retard!

Because my ancestors took this land through conquest. It's my duty to stop those who would retake it

Well ethnically speaking, Anglos don't have a right to an inch of this continent. But legally and ethically speaking, the East Coast and the South is all theirs.

I don't think any race is entitled to more then one homeland.

With help from American media, I might add

If you actually spent a little bit time looking at the statistics you would notice most of the intermarriages are between people that speak the same language. Or like in case of Finland, either mixing with swedes or estonians which we share a long history with both.

again, "ethics, morality, legality" what does that matter when its our continent by right of conquest?

There is a time and a place for high-handedness and wanting a future for your people in a land that they took from others by force is not one of them.

>entitled
It's about whether or not you fight to keep it

There's no such thing as a race's home. History is a endless string of conquest and domination. The whole blood and soil shit is retarded.

Well you SHOULDN'T want a nation for a race in someone else's land.

We do have morals. We conquered them so our people could survive. That's our morality. And legality was established with the country whites created.

That's fine too. They're all white. Do you consider any of the European Anglo races inferior?
Are Germans superior to Norwegians?
SO WHO CARES IF THEY MATE!? And the baby comes out white as snow?
Does it create a mutt stupid race?
No?
Does the IQ drop in the child? Does it come out all mongoloid and retarded? No?
Then why the fuck are you making an issue out of a French gal marrying a British boy.
It's fucking retarded.

You guys are claiming this is a "white" country. How?

Your arguments are shit, mate

If its necessary for my people then it must be so

Greed, not survival.

Ben Franklin doubted the whiteness of Swedes. Your average Cred Forumstard says Spaniards and Italians aren't white. Your white ethnostate is a meme. Ethnic nationalism is the only valid basis for a functioning nation state.

Why? This isn't the Indians land, this isn't the blacks land. There are no indian or black signatores on the Declaration of Independance.

I don't give a damn about fairness.

>greed
That's the Spanish. They went for gold and rape. Anglo, French, and German came either to settle or return back to their country and improve it afterwards.

There were 2 million Hunter and Gatherers in North America 1492. 2 million people don't "own" an entire continent.

>people had doubts
Oh no whites don't exist!

"Settle" have you really never heard of the Wounded Knee massacre?

>talking about IQ drop
>can't even see the black guy in the photo he posted

lol

>massacre
Where we killed the feather niggers to settle there? Yeah what about it?

Because whites dominated and outbred the natives

But you brought Blacks over to this country. So you want purity except when we are dealing with economics.

Mixing up once or twice is fine, as long as you raise the child as a citizen of one country and teach him to be proud german/french whatever you want. You are already losing alot of unique characteristics by mixing, there are facial features that are only found in certain groups, behavior patterns etc. Keep mixing them up and rip them out of their roots and you get yourself a human that can only identify themselves as "white". Just being white is not a good reason to fight for anything.

Greed.

No I don't see the black guy in the picture I posted. Pretty sure that's not it.

Again as stated before only a few people benefitted from Slavery and all of it was undone by the Civil War.

Ignore all the blacks you brought here. So much for your white nationalism.

He wanted a quota on German immigrants. The majority of white people currently in the US would not be considered white by Franklin and a good amount of the other founding fathers. This is the inherent problem with white nationalism.

The east coast contains many locations that are practically speaking lost to us. The Midwest and the mountains have the highest concentration of whites, and the highest percentage of white residents. Establishing an ethnostate there would require the least amount of relocation. Certainly better than trying to evacuate fucking New York, DC or Atlanta.

Ignore the Jim Crow sharecropping and oppressive segregation I guess.

No justification other than the will to power is necessary.

Not hippocritical at all

I'd rather fight to retain general whiteness than lose even that. No one's saying through away your heritage. Just realized that we should work together towards our own survival

>The only place you can secure for your identity is EUROPE.

Oh, you mean places like Sweden and Germany? Places where the native population is being actively displaced by foreign elements?

Might is right faggot

Would you prefer genocide or deportation?

Too bad you butchered and pillaged the Midwest from the Indians though, I guess? Sorry for the inconveinience.

> Just being white is not a good reason to fight for anything.
Oh it's starting to be. Certainly so.
When it's said the white race must become extinct. They weren't just talking about Germans, or Irish, or French.
No.
They meant all of us. Anyone with snowy skin. In fact the war is on. Already.

>entitled
We have been over this. No one magically owns land. Either you can assert control over it or you cannot. That is how the World works. I wish it wasnt so, but it is. You think you will get to "reclaim" what is yours but you will be killed once you have outlived your usefulness. You can either help break the cycle so that we can go our seperate ways or choke on your own blood. Choose wisely.

Vote in nationalist parties, I'm neutral on that. But America isn't "white."

Sharecropping was so inefficient a system that the plantation owners switched to mechanization the minute they had the chance. That's why so many blacks moved North, because there were no jobs left for them in the South.

>an Anglo didn't want Germans in their country
Oh no that's terrible! I guess we should just keep letting in millions of spics then because our dead founding fathers didn't like germans. Goodnight alt-kike

Prefer not being a robber.

And?

That stopped being right years before America was doing it's crimes.

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he's obviously not white

Yes. Separate ways. Europe for Europeans, Asia for Asians.

>still bitching about "oppression"
Topkek

Slave morality.

You still oppressed the fuck out of them and kept them dirt poor, dummie.

You're addressing us as "you". Almost every Cred Forumsack would agree that shipping negroes to this country was a terrible idea. We didn't have a choice in the matter. The people allowing slaves to be shipped here never thought blacks would get citizenship or that they would mix with whites. They couldn't imagine miscegenation would ever occur

You mean the guy peeing on the wall?
That guy? Well that just proves my fucking point.

>who cares
>it doesnt have any deletarious effects
user outbreeding depression effects even whites.

The land belongs to the "Spics." Go back to Europe, you thief. You deserve to have your head chainsawed off by cartels desu.

How is keeping land that has been ours for the entirety of living memory robbery?

*Throw

Blacks in America were more literate than Russians were until the 1920s. Same goes for Chinamen and the blacks back in Africa.

Were they REALLY oppressed?

On the contrary. National Socialism respected the aspiration of non-European nationalists.

You don't want blacks here...except as cheap labor, huh?

And they will not win, europeans have stood against everything the world has tried to throw at it, even tho we have been in constant war between ourselves. Only potential threat I see is China growing too powerful.

The founding fathers didn't see them as people, and they were no more than 8% of the population ever. 92% white is still an ethnostate by most people's standards

You're missing the point entirely. He was fine with Saxons because they were white in his eyes, as were the Dutch. The point is that the definition of whiteness has historically been diluted in the US. The Irish weren't white, neither were the Italians and Poles. Won't be long before literal 56% light skinned method are considered white.

Yea na, fuck off. Whites are the ones whio build the magnificent countries in North America/Oceania. We gained the right to the land via conquest and its only fair that we keep it.

And that gives me some moral obligation to let them live among me how? If we're so terrible than the best option for them would surely be to live apart from us, right?

That's half-nationalism, hypocritical self-determination. Hitler wouldn't have imported black slaves at all.

> And they will not win
Good.

Yes you can.

The reason it didn't work in SA is-

A) There were never enough whites to colonize to begin with.
B) The whites enabled the tribes to "Succeed" to much by letting them breed to much instead of slowly pushing down their numbers.

And last but most important C) The international white community (Jew controlled) crippled colonization efforts in SA while empowering the tribes.

America is the reverse where a large land with small Indian tribes got pushed into small numbers lead to a large European nation. Now our numbers are dwindling thanks to the ((government))).

There is still time to reverse it and at the very least America can split and balkanize.

Tf? Segregation ended as recently as 1965, what are you talking about?

How does it belong to them if we stole it hundreds of years ago? Hell no they'll have to take it back. And I'll be here to stop the diseased sun monkeys too

In the South they were.

That's psuedo-nationalism. Either you have a white country or you don't.

No, you caring about "fairness" and "doing what is right" is slave morality.
Lets hypothetically put the shoe on the other foot: Native Americans discover Europe and its full of backwards savage Europeans who havent invented the wheel. Would there be European reservations today?

No. The Indians would've slaughtered them all for their land.

The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

They have no use as cheap labor anymore. They have no capacity to bring us any economic benefit anymore, there's really nothing we can "exploit" them for.

China is just a big circlejerk by soyboy faggot homos. The little chink men shake in their boots at the thought of fighting the anglo empire.

well that lovely white woman in the pink doesn't seem to mind

The concept of whiteness changes is what you're trying to say. Ok that's fine. Now white means any European because we're all dying out.

>thinking in limited continental terms
This is why the white man is superior, there is the whole universe out there and all you can think of is 1 continent. This is why we rule you.

They got their freedom in 1865. Should've left when the niggers had the chance

Bollocks. Ever seen the wonders of Angkor Wat? Stfu.

I'm talking about the Midwest and the Mountains. Do you have reading comprehension issues or something?

So then go back to Europe you nutcase.

It was for 80% of the time it's existed. And most people would never have imagined the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 would turn the US to a non-white majority in 80 years. The US was conceived in white nationalism. Only recently did your view arise.

reminder that this is the only actual ethnostate on the planet

He's a spic what do you expect? Intelligence?

Im not even memeing here or being delusional. The whole europe took a huge blow after WW2 and its been taking a while for us to get back on our feet. Nationalism is still strong in europe, people feel connected to their roots. Keep poking the calm dog long enough and it will bite you. History always repeats itself.

>crumbling ruined Hindu/Buddhist temple in some Cambodian hellhole
so what?

Cheap labor holds back technological innovation. The slave trade was a blight that held the world back. It was what held back the western roman empire and eventually killed it.

How about be an honest nationalist and live in Europe, the land of your heritage? Also you lying dope, you imported black slaves in America. So much for your "ethnic identity."

What about Israel? Or Japan? Or South Korea? Or China? Or any other fucking non-white country.

Nah, only a complete autist would imagine a 100% white ethnostate

70+ years wasn't enough for whitey to get back up on his feet? lmao

I have no connection to any European nation. And do you really fucking think the Europeans would let 200 million of their cousins come to their nations?

Chinese are fierce "men" with no emotions, like all asians. Thats why they are a force to be reckoned with.

1890 Wounded Knee? We have photographs of it, mate.

>you calling anyone in this thread a nutcase

1890 isn't hundreds of years ago your ignoramus.

Niggers still aren't on their feet

70 years? WW2 didnt end in the death of Hitler, cold war was holding us back.

1890 isn't living memory you fucking mongoloid.

I meant a hundred. Doesn't matter how long they'd have to do something. They never have

I'm just waiting for everyone's patience to have it's limit. And I may be a mutt to you having Irish and German blood and being very white, but I still am sickened by European immigration, the EU oligarch state, and what's trying to be done to European countries.
My ancestors may have come from there in some vague way but they came from there. Period.
And it hurts. And as for my country? Same shit. And I'm a target.

Look at all the roads built by white people in Africa and you can see they can't even maintain civilization not to mention create it

Never have imagined non-Whites would come here! All the butchery and slavery would happen, and all the ill-gotten gains would go to the criminal redneck descendants, eh? (((they))) really threw a wrench into that fantasy, didn't they?

0.2 percent of japans population is brazilian lmao

china is nowhere near an ethnostate( see Tibet, Xinjiang )

south korea is filled with chinese low wage workers

israel has a huge arab population ( how did you not know this, oh yeah you're retarted and you can't understand colors LMAO )

I am a native American though, don't you see? Just because some hunter-gatherers lived here before does't mean they had any significant impact on my life or nation. My white ancestors built this country and made it into what it is today.

Dat projection.

Exactly. Why should we distinguish between ourselves when our attackers don't? To defend ourselves we must come together. For now at least. If we're going to survive

>0.2%
wow it's fucking nothing. The largest demographic in Japan that isn't Japanese are Koreans.
Japanese will not become an ethnic minority in 50, 100, 500 or 1000 years.

It would have been equally unjust.

How since someone a criminal of they themselves have never done anything wrong?

>it's not our fault we're underdeveloped, it's those nasty slavs!

now where have i heard that before...

And centuries down the line would you be advocating that they leave Europe to the million or so Europeans still left?

Blacks and Chinese laborers built the country actually. Try harder.

>equally unjust
Yet they wouldnt have cared

So what?

>blacks
Didn't realize the country was made out of cotton nigger

I would argue for principles. Japan practicied colonialism against Mongols and Russians. They were wrong.

American slavery was similar serfdom in Europe, depending on the time period and location. In fact blacks were taller back then than whites, while today whites are taller than blacks on average. This would indicate blacks were better fed than whites.

And what's this claim about ill-gotten gains? Slavery didn't have a significant impact on our lives today. What did was white innovation and the free market.

We will unite only for as long as is necessary. We might be friendly with eachother at the moment but Europe is not a peaceful region, never has been, never will be. And I wish that America will last for thousands of years and create roots that go deep, then I will respect you with all of my heart.

No they weren't. They did what they needed to do to make their people better

97% of poland is polish and they're still backwards as fuck

Not true. China always had principles as did Ottomans and the Arabs.

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I'd rather live in Poland in 2050 than France.

America had slavery decades after Europe banned it.

Oh yes, because everything is this country is made of cotton, tobacco and California railroads. Literally everything else was meaningless.

lmao provide one fucking source for that. I'll wait. Also those Chinese laborers were paid. Why do you think they came to the US in the first place?

So?

What right did the Arabs have over half the fucking Mediterranean when they took it? What principles, morality, legality and fairness did they apply to their still to this day unbelievable conquests?

We are not underdeveloped, even with small population groups working independently we are keeping up with US.

Im talking about the allies cutting balls from the biggest power in Germany and making him the cuck. That biggest power has always had huge influence all across europe and people are not ready for another war.

>implying poland won't be partitioned again

Meaning this country never was a white ethnostate before 1965 like these imbeciles think.

Colonialism wasn't acceptable when America was doing it.

No it means we used other races to benefit us you dumbass. But only to pick cotton and build railroads

So?

Methinks Hitler wouldn't have imported blacks into Germany. Methinks you have no principles and are a psuedo-nationalism.

Why was it acceptable in the 7th century but not the 18th? Where does the grace period end for brutality, conquest, savagery, enslavement and pillage?

>methinks
I think you're a fag

You're not very bright, are you? Let me guess: You actually believed people when they talked about the need to behave "morally" to all people--not just your own. Fucking lol. Reality isn't not some sugar and spice competition of "morals." It is a ruthless competition for power in order to survive, and the only correct mindset is what advances your own interests. I.e., it makes sense to get your own society to behave morally among themselves so they can function well as a group, but if you can fuck over another group to advance your own group's interests, that is the correct choice.

As I said, white ethnostate doesn't mean there are 0 non whites. I think a non-white minority could live peacefully in the white ethnostate.

>tibet
>xiangjiang
China is displacing the natives from the land they previously owned lol

The enlightenment.

Exactly.
Maybe. But it hasn't worked out so far

Yes, and Europes group interests don't extend outside the borders of Europe.

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See

Slavery is "peaceful."

You're on a roll today aren't you brainlet?

Why base our morals off of the past 3 centuries of idealism when recorded history goes back 40 centuries and shows the practicality of brutality, conquest, savagery, slavery and pillage?

Because you're talking to a brainlet

America effectively is an extension of the. There is nowhere at all for me to go, and the invaders make no distinction between Europe and America like you do, so why not just stand where I am and fight like anyone else would?

you people are just sad
pic related is from A History of the Great Massacre by the Sioux Indians, In Minnesota written by Charles S Bryant

Woke post mate. Land belongs to VICTORS, not to the native population.

Yep.

Enlightenmentfags are always such.
He would have us lay down and die for the sake of fairness.

spot the wehraboo

i bet you believe that 5 shermans 1 tiger bullshit lol

The imported labor werent citizens. Ethnostates still have minorities. You dont even understand the positions you are arguing. Do you know what an ethnostate is? And how does chink labor in cali invalidate the fact that most of eastern america was white until 1965? Are you mentally challanged?

Please, for the love of god, as an american, never ever again meddle with european business. One time was enough.

Fairness only has practicality within the here and now.

I've noticed that. The enlightenment was apparently when everyone collectively was supposed to chop off their balls. Thank God some didn't

then what's the point of an ethnostate then lmao

Agreed friend. Only to help the white men if you can't do it yourselves

I agree about the Africa part, however North America is OURS.

Just curious, can you answer this question? Right now I think you're a dumbass due to your bad arguments. I want to confirm if this is true

I dont hold germany any higher than any other european country. Im thankful for the help they gave Finland but they also burned lapland so hitler can choke on a dick.

What?

The "enlightenment" is a crock full of shit. Name one good social philosopher that isnt thommas hobbes from that peroid and I will rip you a new ass hole. Continental "enlightenment" philosophy doubly so. Its a cheap and incorrect rip off of the eastern traditions.

am i right?

by the same logic i can burglarize an elderly woman, rape her, steal everything she owns, then kill her because "lol i won haha"

NEW THREAD

ok my mongolian friend

My comment had nothing to do with ethnostates. I'm saying South Africa, US, and Canada belong to whites because they had the ability to conquer the natives

>domestic policy is the same as foreign policy
Yeah maybe if you're a dumbass

ANSWER ME BEFORE THE THREAD DIES, DID I GET IT RIGHT?

Nope. Incorrect

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