Weak gun arguments by alt right

Brayden Wilson
Brayden Wilson

"Outlawing drugs didn't work so outlawing guns won't work"

But we want illegal immigrants to be outlawed and removed. This will work!!!

Removing guns from people however is tyranny and unconstitutional.

Removing people from a country they've lived in for decades is not govermental abuse nor is keeping them out.

If you take anyone's gun though it is abuse by the goverment.

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Landon Cook
Landon Cook

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GET IN HERE!!!!!!

Kayden Ward
Kayden Ward

It only works when it's something I dislike and it's American and the right thing to do.

If I like it, it's not going to work, it's abuse and we shouldn't do it.

But I hate women logic they are irrational unlike me!

Brayden Bailey
Brayden Bailey

1. Who will be taking the guns from the populace?
2. Will they have guns?

I only have one right I will argue bitterly over and genuinely kill another human for. That is the right to bear arms. All other rights you think you have are predicated by your ability to effectively protect them. Protect them with force if necessary. There is no first amendment without the second.

James Perry
James Perry

Yeah, but laws and shit right?
Kys

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

Simple rule of law seems to be a tough concept for you.

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

Your only right is to bear arms?

That's all you have?

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

Explain

Tyler Bell
Tyler Bell

There's new laws being made to make immigrants be removed. That is no different than if we made new laws for guns.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

Anti 2A thread#80

Austin Wright
Austin Wright

This is anti 2a. It's pointing out hypocrisy. No reading comprehension

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

How about "shall not be infringed"? That good enough for you?

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

wewt

Isaiah Campbell
Isaiah Campbell

Read user’s post slower. If you still don’t understand, read it again. Once you roughly get the point, neck yourself, because THERE ARE NO RIGHTS without the 2nd, to defend the others from leftists faggots like you.

Ryan Nelson
Ryan Nelson

That's just a law written.

Written nearly 300 years ago.

I'm talking the semantics of the law compared to the other demands being currently made and how they compare. You are brain dead if you cant objectively comprehend this.

Mason Ward
Mason Ward

It is the lynchpin that allows you to respond to the abuse of the citizenry by a government or others. Force is still the gold standard. You only have rights as far as you can protect them.

Say you have the "right" to be safe in your home, but a roving gang of youths can come and hurt you and take your stuff because you are unarmed? Do you still have the right to safety in your own home? Or is that "right" dependent on force to maintain it?

Mason Garcia
Mason Garcia

yes it is you retarded nigger, theres nothing in the constitution granting niggers or spics the right to come here, and only recently did we even start allowing their asses in here. guns have been here from the beginning and always will be.

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

Guns are not the reason we have rights.

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

You can’t because it’s an inalienable right, you pole smoking leftynigger.

James Powell
James Powell

How about "shall not be infringed"? That good enough for you?
It doesn't matter if thats not good enough for that twink or any other little bitch. Its the law of the land and our birthright.

John Turner
John Turner

Wrong. If you read the bill of rights, it states that rights belong to man, given by god. The document merely enumerates, and recognizes them as rights within the framework of our country.

Tyler Ramirez
Tyler Ramirez

I still have the right regardless of my ability to defend.

When i have a license to drive I have the right regardless of if I am a NASCAR driver or a horrible driver who consistently gets in accidents. My ability to perform does not equal my rights.

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

ILLEGAL immigrants
LEGAL guns

Get the picture?

Evan Wood
Evan Wood

Bump

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

The constitution is not the only relevant piece of law. We have a whoke set of statues and laws that are relevant to present time. Many of them which help you live the comfy life you do today.

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

we dont need an argument

try to take them and you get perforated

Anthony Thompson
Anthony Thompson

Are you slow? The ability to defend yourself with deadly force, on par with any other human is literally how you guarantee your fucking rights.

Robert Turner
Robert Turner

given by god

Most of you are atheist so I dont know how you can defend that definition at all.

Nathan Price
Nathan Price

Deporting people that are in a country illegally
illegally
vs.
Ending a right to -legal- gun ownership, something which was guaranteed by the constitution of the country

I'm not sure you could come up with a worse false equivalency, my slide-thread shill

Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

So what happens to your "right" to free speech when people come with guns and tell you to shut the fuck up? Or come to say that your property is no longer yours? Or that you no longer have the right to raise children, the government will do it for you. Or that you dont have the right to vote?

You had better be baiting.

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

No it's not.

Goodluck fighting with your gun against a guy who tries to rob you and had his gun up first. You are going to die on the spot and your mother will cry.

Xavier James
Xavier James

Those people are breaking the laws which you are describing. They are criminals who go against everything we are describing.

Anthony King
Anthony King

Fuck off, retard.
docs.google.com/document/d/1mBrxjLcuygRlG9Tgdw2CiHtV9g1kgUwZGRnieYBpwSo/mobilebasic?pli=1#h.j6edickydx2
youtube.com/watch?v=6vacdj55A2Y

Easton Howard
Easton Howard

le /pol is one person faggotry

I'm not a Christian, but I do recognize a higher power. That's still not the fucking issue, you clearly haven't read the constitution or the bill of rights.

Ian Robinson
Ian Robinson

God in this sense is a legal concept. The State has no authority to take any of the 10 enumerated in the Bill of Rights,even by amendment.

Grayson King
Grayson King

Shootings in ranges where thousands of high caliber rifles are fired weekly.
Zero,

Shootings by law abiding members of the NRA.
Zero.

Shootings by people pumped up with drugs prescribed by lobbied doctors who hand them out like candy.
A SHIT TON!

Benjamin Green
Benjamin Green

If You are quoting that the right was given by god and do not believe in God it has no relevancy to you or merit

Chase Flores
Chase Flores

You're presupposing immigrants are necessary for any purpose.

Jordan Clark
Jordan Clark

This is so irrelevant to anything being discussed.

Jeremiah Perez
Jeremiah Perez

What happens when the people trying to do these things write the laws? Its no longer illegal for the government to doit, its legal. Here comes the "ensure your own rights or die trying" part.

Why do you think that the government deserves a monopoly on force? They are just humans like us. They arent special.

Ethan Roberts
Ethan Roberts

No I am not. Don't put words in my mouth

Grayson Morales
Grayson Morales

Are you retarded or something?
1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.
1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.
1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.
1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.
1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.
1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.
1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

Implications exist, idiot.

Brandon Harris
Brandon Harris

You can argue about the numbers, but the point here is that disarmed citizens are vulnerable, and that there are many historical examples of disarmed citizens being killed and oppressed by their own government. The excuse given by authorities that they need to take guns away from citizens in order to lower crime rates is not supported by facts. Even if a government does not turn on its own citizens after disarming them, people are less safe – because unarmed citizens are easy targets to criminals. Over and over again, it has been clearly shown that taking guns away from citizens does not lead to a decrease in crime but rather a dramatic increase.]
Australia has disarmed it’s citizens, and a year later the homicide rate in the largest province is up 300%. The burglaries of seniors is “dramatically” up.
I guess the criminals did not turn their weapons in. Only the innocent law abiding citizens turned in weapons.
In US cities with the highest crime rates, taking guns away from the citizens has not lowered the homicide rate. All it has done is to make it easier for criminals to operate.
The 2nd amendment is not about duck hunting, or deer hunting. It is about having the ability and the right to defend oneself and your family. It doesn’t matter if that threat is a burglar, or the Federal Government. A disarmed population is fair game for any president who may be aspiring to become a dictator. Having its citizens armed was the plain and simple intent of the founding fathers of our country.

Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

So what is the point of laws period if you think theyll all just be overthrown and launched out the door at any moment and we will enter an apocalypse?

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

I'm not a Christian, that doesnt mean I don't believe in a higher power or Creator force.

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

op is one of men in my pic

David Thompson
David Thompson

Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews
they murdered 16 million Jews

come on man

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

Completely irrelevant to what is being discussed.

The hypocrisy of saying removing immigrants is good and forceful removal as well as banning and isn't abuse by government but removal of guns is abuse and not ok or banning.

Not speaking of results

Cameron Gutierrez
Cameron Gutierrez

Driving is not a right you memeflag faggot. Kill yourself.

Benjamin Hernandez
Benjamin Hernandez

illegal immigrants to be outlawed and removed
illegal to be outlawed
illegal
What is your definition of illegal, OP?

We will never get 100% of the illegals out of our country, but we CAN reduce their numbers significantly. Guns don't breed & multiply once bought. Guns don't get up & walk down the street shooting bullets by their self. Guns don't have a brain, they cannot think. Walking across a countries border when you didn't apply for the proper paperwork, requires thought. Those people KNEW what they were doing was wrong when they did it, they KNEW there was a chance they would be caught & deported. They took the risk, they did the crime, now they must pay the fine & the time.

Benjamin James
Benjamin James

Because the ability to defend myself with deadly force is what secures my rights. Not the law. Personal responsibility for my life, my family and my belongings. Force or threat there of is the law.

James Foster
James Foster

When you have a license driving is your right dumbass

Liam White
Liam White

"Outlawing drugs didn't work so outlawing guns won't work"

But we want illegal immigrants to be outlawed and removed. This will work!!!

Outlawing a nearly hundred constitutional right with billions of guns over the country is different to don't let people smoke weed, also illegal immigration is already outlawed autist

Removing guns from people however is tyranny and unconstitutional.

Removing people from a country they've lived in for decades is not govermental abuse nor is keeping them out.

Lol why you are gonna kick me out of your house, i already have lived 10 days here illegaly but that don't matter :)

I know you are a shill or leaf but c´mon buddy

Jace Davis
Jace Davis

ITS EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE RIGHTS.

My forefathers used them against the CROWNs Lobster soldiers.

ITS THEE VERY REASON I AM FREE TODAY.

David Hill
David Hill

Then I guess we should make murder and theft legal since they still occur, by your logic?

Camden Wood
Camden Wood

But is it god you believe in? As constitution says?

If a quran or a bible grants you something and you don't believe in it, it's not relevant to you

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

Read the law carefully. The license is not your property. It belongs to the state. They can revoke it if you don't follow the law. Look up "implied consent"

Owen Sullivan
Owen Sullivan

We can also reduce the amount of illegal gun ownership but will never get all out. Works both ways.

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

we want illegal immigrants to be outlawed
user, you need to re-read what you have written.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

There is a chance of dying every time we step outside from cars, planes, weather, criminals, animals, etc.

Dosent mean we must pay for this.

Hudson Anderson
Hudson Anderson

Like I said, you can argue about the numbers. Maybe it was 50. Holohoax or not, that’s still 50 unarmed civilians unable to defend themselves.

Connor Jackson
Connor Jackson

No it's not. You dont need a gun to secure your rights.

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

Guns ownership is legal.

Illegal immigration isnt.

/thread

Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

Driving is a privilege granted by the state. You don't even understand the concept of a right vs privilege.

A privilege is a certain entitlement to immunity granted by the state or another authority to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis. ... By contrast, a right is an inherent, irrevocable entitlement held by all citizens or all human beings from the moment of birth.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Illegals are illegals you insufferable moron. They have no constitutional rights.

Gun ownership is a constitutional right.

SUCH COMPLEX!

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

That all sounds completely reasonable

Alexander Butler
Alexander Butler

One is illegal, the other is a god given right. Why the fuck is this so hard for you to wrap your brain around?

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

You are pretty much the type of person my post described. Thanks for posting.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

Rofl

Brandon Rogers
Brandon Rogers

Definetly not

Caleb Thomas
Caleb Thomas

Approx 200,000 opioid overdoses from 1999-2016. Yet approx. 400 school shooting deaths from 1990-2018. GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, LIBTARDS!

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

They don't need a gun to defend themselves.

John Davis
John Davis

Constantly shifting the subject because it's the only way to defend his narrative
what a faggot

You wanna talk about guns? talk about guns. But don't bring in the POH WITTLE IMMIGRANTS as an excuse for why gun control is shit

Xavier Watson
Xavier Watson

god given

You dont even believe in God.

A man wrote that constitution not god

Ryder Ross
Ryder Ross

Off topic

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

Then why didn’t they defend themselves with what they had?

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

Because illegal aliens (criminals) operate the same as illegal gun owning criminals.
Neither are navigating under the law of the land.

Anthony Brooks
Anthony Brooks

You replied to this because the had something in his post you could deflect to (god)

You didn’t respond to Because he said the same thing and didn’t haven anything in his post you could deflect to. You are dishonest and a coward. Fuck off.

Jose Kelly
Jose Kelly

Okay. I be laid out the literal framework why an armed populace ensures they cant be casually abused by the state. All you have is
nuh uh it doesnt work like that

Explain to me what powers grant you rights? Other people saying you're allowed to have them? People that happen to work for the state? Please tell you you aren't this fucking sheeped.

Aaron Evans
Aaron Evans

Good job brah, your meme flag and shitty arguments triggered me for a sec. I hope some young user's are reading this and learning something, it's always useful to see what kind of arguments naive liberal faggots like you make so they can be picked apart.

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

But we want illegal immigrants to be outlawed and removed.
....nigger you are beyond dumb

David Lewis
David Lewis

Go ahead & reduce the amount of illegal gun ownership. Doing this would also require the removal of Illegal Aliens. Not a single sane American citizen would argue against that. Tear down the Cartels, remove the M-13 scum. Confiscate their illegal guns. Crime rate will hopefully go down. Don't penalize the legal people for the crimes of the illegal people.

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

Yes they are, faggot

Zachary Morris
Zachary Morris

You don’t know what I believe, nigger.
I know that you believe virtue signaling with anons gives you perceived superiority over other people, but your still a retard that doesn’t understand how the Bill of Rights works. I assume since you’re hiding behind a memeflag you’re probably a Mohammedan’s little bitch bong.
You’ll never get the guns, faggot.
/thread

Aaron Sanders
Aaron Sanders

Which for the record "endowed by our creator" doesnt use the word god. I don't believe the framework christianity laid for God. I do however believe in a higher force or creator. Arguing philosophical minutiae isnt going to get anywhere with this guy.

Hudson Walker
Hudson Walker

Hawt, pls post more of her

Jayden James
Jayden James

This

Nolan Perez
Nolan Perez

You don't have to step outside to die, lol. What is your point? The world is a dangerous place. The ONLY guarantee in life is that one day you will die. How you live your life between now & that time is up to you. Are you going to live it in fear of death & baddies with guns or are you going to move forward & make life worth living?

Lucas Garcia
Lucas Garcia

People are against any removal of guns. They think it'll lead to their guns being removed

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

illegal
Illegal guns should be removed. Legal guns should stay.
Why is that so complicated?

Louder with Crowder BTFO's all this gun loophole/assault rifle bullshit, anyway. You can't buy guns without a background check, and you can't buy assault or semi-automatic without a special license.

Wyatt Lee
Wyatt Lee

I'm not scared of guns at all. My point was theres danger everywhere.

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

Gr8b8m8
Sage, nobody is his retarded

Gavin Peterson
Gavin Peterson

banning a person who needs to interact with society every day as as hard as banning an item anyone can just put under their bed and never take out in a hundred years

Aaron Fisher
Aaron Fisher

Dosent mean we must pay for this.

Pay what?

Rifles account for less than 10% of all gun murders.

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

A background check is worthless. Anyone can pass one. Says nothing about behavior or decisions with gun

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

Depends on the state. In the US semi is pretty much unregulated. Same day purchase in most places.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

Why are you do focused on kill counts. I haven't even discussed that

Off topic

Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

How do you propose we change peoples behavior?

Jeremiah Carter
Jeremiah Carter

"Guns trigger the left"

Ahhahahahahahaha

Leo Martin
Leo Martin

At minimum a psychogical screening should be done to own a gun.

Jayden Phillips
Jayden Phillips

claiming 16 million Jews were murdered
on Cred Forums
Bold move

Joshua Myers
Joshua Myers

Guns today are not what they were when constitution was written.

They were weak muskets and poorly made shotguns.

Now our weapons have very good accuracy, easy to handle, fast to reload and lastly the options for extended mags or faster tiring.

Charles Sullivan
Charles Sullivan

Why are you do focused on kill counts.

First of all, your grammar is shit. The reason I focused on kill counts is because your complaints about AR-15 deaths, are statistically irrelevant; compared to deaths caused by niggers using pistols and melee weapons.

Your whole gig is to attack/blame white males for owning rifles, while saying niggers dindu nuffin, and defending the right for more 3rd-worlders to flood into the country. If you really wanted crime to stop, you wouldn't be so against immigration control. Pic related, areas with tons of shitskins have tough gun laws (many virtually outlawing them), and they still have higher murder rates than the US.

off topic
You only say it's off topic because you want to pilpul over emotional bullshit and catch-22 linguistics, instead of thinking about the topic of "gun control" logically, and looking at official data.

Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

I have never heard of anyone arguing against gun confiscation from Cartels. Other than the FBI in Fast & Furious or what ever it was where they were the ones that supplied the guns, lol. You are confusing LEGAL people with ILLEGAL as in NOT LEGAL people. Criminals by the very definition of illegal. The laws already say the police, government, whoever can confiscate the weapons used by criminals. What do you think happened to all the weapons found in that room in Vegas? They took them out and distributed them to the populace? lol

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

I'm on mobile it corrects itself retard

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

"Regulating immigration doesn't work"

"Regulating guns will work"

What now OP?

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

you were legally allowed to own artillery when it was written

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

Which state?
Find proofs.

Adam Collins
Adam Collins

posting a bait thread on mobile

Seems like something you faggots would do. Saged.

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

I'm not a libertarian. I'm a fascist. I can want the government to protect certain rights and use force on others.

James Hall
James Hall

Are you a democrat?
No
You can't have a gun unless you vote for Hillary
Well, OK then.

James Rivera
James Rivera

Show me 1 post where I complained about ar 15 deaths as you say

Sebastian Garcia
Sebastian Garcia

illegals are already outlawed and they have to go back

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

wrong pic :P

Elijah Perry
Elijah Perry

Terrible post

Bentley Stewart
Bentley Stewart

25 years ago the DSM said gays and trans people were mentally ill. Why should gays not have the ability to defend themselves? Youre okay with people not having the right to self defense based on a medical text that changes every decade or so?

Jordan King
Jordan King

Go make a post here about removing guns from criminals forcibly at their homes.

Tell me what responses you get.

They are going to tell you that innocent people will die when they do that and that theyll use it to take legal guns too. Please try it

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

350 some people are killed by rifles per year in America. Roughly one million in one.

What is your argument to ban rifles?

If the law enforcement had actually done their job we wouldn't have had this mass shooting. God only knows that the hell happened in Vegas because they won't release any of the information.

So I say again, 350 dead per year by rifles yet why do you want them taken away? What is your angle?

Zachary White
Zachary White

Aaaand Twitter isnt what free speech used to be its still covered. What is your point?

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

woops, ^ was in response to

Jeremiah Peterson
Jeremiah Peterson

What...

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

Colorado you can buy a glock 19 if youre 21 and pass the background check. Takes about an hour. I did it on my 21st.

Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

The murder rate in the US isn't even that high.

And compared to the mass shootings (or cars driving into people) incidents in Europe, the "mass shooting that isn't terrorism" rate isn't that high either.

Kinda solving a none problem here.

Parker Stewart
Parker Stewart

When did I say theyvdont have the right to defend?

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

I haven't even discussed school shootings 1 time

Anthony Hughes
Anthony Hughes

Tally ho.

Literally just a few posts ago, you were saying guns were elite high-tech killing machines. This logically alludes to the possibility that you hate AR-15s more than other guns, because of their large magazines and semi-auto capability. I win, Jew.
see:

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

You want a doctor to be able to determine peoples mental health status in order to buy a gun. The DSM Changes regularly. It is not law.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

I dont hate any guns thats you trying to make an assumption.

I said they are more powerful. Hence take more training to handle

Colton Evans
Colton Evans

A doctor won't say you can't have a gun because you are gay.

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

Ok and

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

What do illegal immigrants have to do with guns? Absolutely fucking nothing.

You know how to get rid of illegal immigrants? Punish the corporations that employ them. That will not happen because the politicians are bought and paid for. Do you not understand that?

Illegal immigration has nothing to do with guns. Guns are not a multi-billion dollar tax/benefit dodge by corporations.

They are a constitutional right.

The same constitutional rights that corporations skirt by employing illegal immigrants. They DO NOT GET RIGHTS. Which is the entire point.

You dumb - piece - of - slave - labor - pushing - shit.

Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

Jews are using appeals to emotion in order to get dumb plebs to support disarmament, so they can rule over the goyim more effectively.

Notice how the people who mostly fall for their bullshit emotional arguments are mostly women and sub-85IQ niggers.

saged

Benjamin Wright
Benjamin Wright

Guns are sold by multibillion dollar corporations. If they banned theyd hurt tons of businesses same as theyd hurt tons by removing immigrants.

Tyler Bailey
Tyler Bailey

The point being within 20 years, the DSM changes radically. Nobody can quite pin down what all EXACTLY constitutes mental illness. It is no way to decide who gets the right to defend themselves.

Eli Long
Eli Long

Illegal immigrants are already outlawed, we just want them removed.
I have a God-given right to bear any arm, from a broadsword to a battleship. If you have a problem with that, amend the Constitution.

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

Fine

Hudson Bennett
Hudson Bennett

Yes it does. A mentally ill person with a gun is a danger to society. Over 90%of Republicans and democrats agree on this.

You are on your own if you are imploring giving guns to mentally ill. Noone here will even agree with you.

Jose Flores
Jose Flores

Your speech is more accurate and powerful with Twitter. Not like it was when the constitution was written. You should have to go see a doctor to make sure you are mentally fit enough to have a high powered Twitter account.

Do you not get this?

Alexander Peterson
Alexander Peterson

God has nothing to do with your gun. He didn't write that constitution and had no part. Humans did

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

Yes. They are. Guns are the source from which all political power springs.

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

Lol a Twitter post is worthless. You are hilarious saying it's powerful.

Jaxson Martinez
Jaxson Martinez

No

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Wrong. Not even close. Try again. Worse comparison of all time.

Also more illegal immigrants are murdered/die crossing the border every year than are Americans killed by rifles. Lets not even talk about the rape.

You support slave labor. It's as simple as that.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

No. I am saying that a fucking doctors note is NOT due process. SCOTUS has held that due process is required to remove someones rights. Not a god damn doctors note.

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

How do i support slave labor

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

Wrong.

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

If you can't figure it out you shouldn't even be attempting to contemplate things of this nature. You should just be focused on not biting off your own tongue.

Grayson Gutierrez
Grayson Gutierrez

A psychological evaluation would give us much more competent and responsible gun owners.

In a vacuum where in society the only possible way to own a gun was to go see one and pass the testing your have more competent people. Of course guns are scattered all across the globe so this does not work that way but it had a benefit cause a background check is useless

Luis Lewis
Luis Lewis

Ok

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

a background check is useless
Wrong.

Justin Powell
Justin Powell

No one on this board is arguing against confiscation of guns from criminals, lol. The confiscation happens AFTER a crime has been committed. Police do not have the authority at the moment to just barge into suspected peoples homes & take all the weapons. That would give them the authority to barge into YOUR home & ransack it looking for weapons from an anonymous tip from an old rivalry that really, secretly, hated you & just wanted to make your life hell for a few minutes. In this country, we still have "innocent until proven guilty" (unless you are a republican politician).

They can grab guns from Cartels & gangs because said CRIMINAL organizations have already done illegal things. ie. drugs, prostitution, murder. You have strayed to far from the original topic.

Samuel Gutierrez
Samuel Gutierrez

Use the disinformation for your benefit. If that's the number that is going to be put forth, then that is the number that will e used to support your argument.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

It is. It won't show anything about your competence with a gun, your aggression, how you react under pressure, if you get into confrontations, if you are mentally ill, if you want to kill people, if you plan to give the gun to your kid, if you have attacked people before outside of being arrested.

A background check is such minimal details. It says nothing about you.

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

See told you whoever said pol would be for criminals having guns they say exactly what i said. That itll lead to them losing their guns so they don't want it

Anthony Martinez
Anthony Martinez

But who was swat calls but who fake fires but who was fake homicides

I can already make calls and fuck your life up in your house. I dont need the law of gun searches to be forced.

As long as your innocent you are fine

Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

A. A gun is a tool, not a person. You cannot seriously compare these two things.

B. An illegal immigrant has already shown such little regard for your nation that they think they can bypass all of your laws and then subvert those laws once they have an anchor inside your borders. It clearly works on imbeciles like you.
C. You are an imbecile. I don't care if that upsets you. You're a handicap to Western Civilization and you should leave to live somewhere the laws and European culture don't trigger you.

Jason Cruz
Jason Cruz

I'm not upset at all

John Reed
John Reed

If anything you seem triggered not me

Luke Thompson
Luke Thompson

That depends on how you define God, but that's not the point you obtuse faggot. That rights are held to be self-evident, unalienable, and/or God-given means that no government has the authority to impinge upon them, and the only guarantor of that is the ability for citizenry to respond to tyranny with force.

In layman's terms, the thing that stops Trump or Hillary or anything else from going full Stalin is the threat that if they do, they're going to have to fight an organized militia the size and funding of the Chinese national army in a brutal guerilla war first. There is no other possible guarantor; if the government has assault rifles and you have nothing but your limp dick, the government can do whatever the fuck it likes to you, including killing you.

Hunter Wood
Hunter Wood

Dude you are just rambling incoherently now, lol. Give it up. You lost.

Luis Butler
Luis Butler

The us military would destroy the American citizens with crappy guns at home in a war.

I dont think army rangers, seals and marine recon would be scared to fight pol members when you guys rebel against goverment

Nicholas Sullivan
Nicholas Sullivan

Lost what?

Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

keeping people out of a country is not governmental abuse you fucking retard

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

We don't need to argue. We have a Constitutional Right that is not going away. Nice try, liberal jew fag cuck.

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

people and objects are different. enforcing immigration laws is considerably more feasible than preventing people getting hold of contrabamd

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

That's where your wrong faggot. Pic related, and was very well said.

Aaron Gutierrez
Aaron Gutierrez

Why would any jew be liberal

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

The us military would destroy the American citizens with crappy guns at home in a war.
like in vietnam, afghanistan and iraq?

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

And since we're talking about guns, why not read what the founding fathers had to say about it? Arm yourself with knowledge on this subject, and understand the 2nd amendment is there for one purpose, and that purpose is to ensure the citizens have access to firearms to keep the government in check. Read, and enjoy:
let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/the-federalist-papers/

Grayson Diaz
Grayson Diaz

The us didn't lose in Afghanistan and iraq. We have removed much of the radicalism from those areas, imprisoned many of their soldiers and now taken control of areas that Isis controlled plus killed their leaders.

Carter Diaz
Carter Diaz

See, this is actually a legitimate argument. It is, however, entirely inaccurate. Half of our military is deployed permanently overseas, but even if Washington was able to recall every single soldier to fight the insurgency, they'd still be outnumbered over 12:1 against a guerilla army capable of fielding the largest fleet of technicals in the history of man practically overnight.

Except oops, 60+% of the military just defected to the rebels. And Russia and China are funding, arming, and training the rebels, who already have a hardened NCO core of veterans.

The military can't effectively leverage its tanks and drones because tanks and drones can't enforce a police state, and there's no point in a tyrant ruling over a barren wasteland. The moment one of our nuclear subs goes rogue, Washington is fucking done.

Even our own Department of Defense has admitted that an insurgency would have better than even odds of succeeding.

Evan Morgan
Evan Morgan

60 posts by this idea

Hudson Cooper
Hudson Cooper

The us didn't lose in Afghanistan and iraq

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

That was hundreds of years ago.i hope you aren't making your life decisions off books with what to do in life from hundreds of years ago and how to cure illnesses with onions and garlic

Jack Sullivan
Jack Sullivan

If civil war were to ever break out in the US, as soon as it starts, the feds lose, and the left loses along with it. They may have lots of support from teleprompter readers on the news, and out of touch dipshits in Hollyweird, but they don't have the support of the average American. We would win, and the smart leftist cuck actually knows this, which is why they do almost anything to make sure it never descends into a shooting war.

Adrian Clark
Adrian Clark

Better arguments by alt right

Give niggers guns, they can’t control themselves
Give trannies guns. They kill themselves
Give Bernie bros guns. They blast cucks playing baseball.

Win win win

Michael Phillips
Michael Phillips

They have planes that can shoot down whole communities, tanks to roll thru populated areas, javelins to fire in towns, bombs to lay down and take out mass amounts. Snipers to pick people off

They'll make up for the numbers with superior weaponry

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

Sorry dickhead, that's not an argument. By your own definition, that means we can just abolish the constitution and bill of rights, because according to you, they are now outdated. Please tell me your not college educated, because if you are, you need to ask for a refund.

Christopher Rodriguez
Christopher Rodriguez

Lol media and news dosent matter with a war man. You'll be out there getting murdered by navy seals there will be no time for bullshit lile arguing whos left or right youd all be fighting for your lives and no time to write articles or talk news

Austin Cook
Austin Cook

Never served have you? Explain COIN operations to us all....go on, enlighten us all with your vast and unending military knowledge on the subject.

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

Reading is hard.

Jayden Smith
Jayden Smith

Never said that

Gabriel Allen
Gabriel Allen

Hey retard. The thing is that the Constitution allows government to regulate immigration

Elijah Rodriguez
Elijah Rodriguez

You served?

Asher Long
Asher Long

Implying that the military will turn against its own citizens. Damn, you fuckers are not even good at larping. Read through the different reports done up by the folks in the FBI, and pentagon about a civil war. That is assuming your willing to, which I would bet your not.

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

You're out of your fucking mind dude. What US soldier, most of whom who already distrusts the government, is going to be shooting sniper rifles and missiles at other US citizens?

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

Half the people here say they have a gun because it protects them against government take over like has happened in other countries. Go talk to them

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

You can ban this rifle, but that's it.

Matthew Edwards
Matthew Edwards

When i have a license to drive I have the right
How can you be so wrong and still think you're right? Holy shit

Jordan Scott
Jordan Scott

If the us citizens become terrorist attacking the government youd be surprised.

If a legion of Americans goes to try to kill trump tomorrow the military will mobilize hundreds of troops to murder them

Mason Price
Mason Price

Read it for yourself then, or are you scared of getting red pilled on the subject. the argument koolaid drinking professors use is that the 2nd amendment was meant for the militia, not the people. When you read through the chapter in the Federalist Papers, you understand why it was worded the way it was, and what it really means. Go on faggot, read it.

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

The 2nd amendment wasn't meant for military

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

You can't even make a valid argument against any of my posts can you? I suppose I should have expected this from a dumbass, but there is always hope one of you will actually listen instead of regurgitation propaganda from a communist professor.

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

Love how you all jump thinking people are leftist or commie if don't automatically follow all your opinions.

It's alt right or communist.

No in between. Everything extreme. Can't have your own views.

You are the problem with dividing in society.

Not alt right or liberal, it's you. Labeling people.

Levi Parker
Levi Parker

Illegals
Outlawed

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

Bravo zulu

Mason Kelly
Mason Kelly

Illegal immigrants are still here. Not forcibly removed. If being illegal is all it took to remove trump wouldn't be pushing for stricter measures

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

Yep because people like you defend illegals so if he does it he’s going to be fucked and called a nazi cunt.

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

You clearly don't understand what a civil liberty is.

Adrian Martinez
Adrian Martinez

Speaking as an undocumented immigrant, thank you for bolstering my point. We are hear to stay!

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

I wouldn't call him a nazi

Don't fight ignorant with ignorance. He's no better if he's calling everyone liberals cause he's gets called things. Just letting himself get controlled by a cycle of others decisions

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

Yes i do

Bentley Perez
Bentley Perez

what is the constitution

Isaac Smith
Isaac Smith

In the driving book, it said that driving is a privilege. It's not a right. It's not protected by the Constitution.

Hunter Wood
Hunter Wood

"Shall not be infringed"
Are we done here, pussy?

David Perez
David Perez

By 'God' they mean "rights vested to all humans upon birth"

Brody Barnes
Brody Barnes

No they don't

Cameron Hill
Cameron Hill

Just read this conversation. Have to give you kudos user. I never hear anyone say that the people in government are just like you and I. Nothing makes them any more special than the management at my local Home Depot.

Ryan Gonzalez
Ryan Gonzalez

Bingo bango bongo.

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

Truuu

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

explain.

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

See here's the thing, you fucking idiot.

Illegal people are here illegally. People lawfully owning guns aren't breaking any laws.

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

We aren't illegal. We are undocumented. This was our homeland. Thus we are allowed to come here. Sure the whites and mexican government agreed to a border. But the president of mexico at the time was #notmypresident. Also, why should my life be affected my previous people's actions? It's great that you have created so much opportunity for natives like us with affirmative action, BAMN to prevent deportation, and all. So welcoming. I even get to vote in local elections. I go to college here on scholarship too, but it's a private one.

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

guns are made from metal, which naturally comes from the ground

cannot ban metal/basic machine tooling

can stop human beings with no local documentation from smuggling in UNREGISTRED firearms to be used explicitly for criminal purposes (as intended by crime bosses operating in nearby shithole countries)

Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

another OP doesn't respond to posts btfoing him episode
Oh boy

Liam Bell
Liam Bell

Sounds like the marijuana argument

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

"Undocumented"
We're not illegal, we're just another term for illegal!

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

Most guns aren't much more complex than a stapler. Yes, they are capable of more destruction, but I wouldn't say they require as much training as you think they do.

Brody Murphy
Brody Murphy

You out trolled me. Good job. I'm done here

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

Yes, but is does stop people who have comitted felonies and have been caught from aquiring guns legally.........

Levi Reed
Levi Reed

77 posts
Damn you is on fire nigga

Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

We aren't illegal if we belong here? Duhhhh.

Isaac Cruz
Isaac Cruz

Guns and drugs are contraband. Once you get them, you can hide them or consume them. No upkeep needed. Very difficult to track.

Illegal immigrants need jobs to stay afloat. All you need are tough penalties against companies that hire them and the problem almost solves itself.

OP is a fucking retard.

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
An illegal immigrant by any other name is still an illegal immigrant

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

My parents work in a bottling factory here in SoCal. We have fine that are pretty large of w/e. but it's in both parties' interests to have us. We are cheap people and we undercut others since we are paid under the table and hired as contractors, saving money for large corporates. The people who can't afford to hire us are smaller companies who would not be able to survive in the long run should they be caught. It's a calcualted risk. And democrats want us because of course we support their policies.

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

Illegal immigrants by any other name is undocumented immigrants and by any other name are legal immigrants who have the right to stay on the land they once occupied.

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

if we were really illegal, then how come im not arrested? stupid brits lol

Matthew King
Matthew King

Funny thing is OP just wasted hours of his day arguing points and policies that will never pass. Now excuse me. I'm gonna go clean my guns :)

Chase Sullivan
Chase Sullivan

16 million Jews.

pfft. i wish.

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

It's illegal to outlaw guns. If you do, you're a traitor, you you do and harm someone or kill them then you're a traitor facing the death penalty.

Levi Myers
Levi Myers

I served in the Marine Corp from 2000-2004, and a vast majority of them would not side with the fed over American citizens trying to defend the constitution. Even the officer class. We swear to defend the constitution in our oaths against enemies foreign AND domestic

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

You just /thread your own thread with your lack of skill in reading. top kek

Tyler Reed
Tyler Reed

gr8 b8.... Hurr durr we won the revolutionary war with puppy dogs and unicorns

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

Decades

Literally swam a goddamn River 20-1 years ago.

Ayden Taylor
Ayden Taylor

2A isn't a law. It's the prohibition of law.

Caleb James
Caleb James

I see... you say off topic a lot. You sure you aren't mistaking Cred Forums for reddit?

Dylan James
Dylan James

Because you didn't get caught yet and you're probably living in a sanctuary city/state.
What's your address Pedro? I'll let ICE know and they can correct this oversight

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

there are more guns than you brainlets could ever count floating around in this country. You will never get all of them.

Brandon Bell
Brandon Bell

Man I feel these things in my heart. I know them in my mind. No one can break these arguments. I have yet to meet someone in real life or online that can counter them. Take them. Use them. Its critical to our liberties to be able to articulate these things. Stay safe out there user. No one can do it for you, but you.