EDF 5 Gameplay

Was actually quite the fan of the new WD/PW uniform until I saw the bottom half of it, was it really necessary?

Anyway, footage of a different mission here:

youtu.be/aMGUepa7OWM?t=23442

6:30:00~

Shows Ranger with a Police uniform.

Tons of new screenshots of a new map here:

4gamer.net/games/356/G035629/20160915155/

i want kill counter

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Not that guy but
>separate jump/dodge/fly buttons
>time to run around the stage picking up drops after clearing a mission
>not spending half the game underground, where only two out of four classes are useful

For all the shit Insect Armageddon gets, it nailed these.

New mechs look cool.

youtu.be/aMGUepa7OWM?t=23796

Around 6:36:30

So this is what I see

>we lost Air Raider and Fencer
>exact same list of weapons
>they upgraded the city graphics when thats the most taxing and least relevant thing ever

but atleast
>theres some kind of sprinting

This seems like maybe a $15-20 expansion pack, not a new game.

Which two classes are those?

Oh another pos, Wing diver is pretty fucking lewd now, airsluts upgraded.

I'm assuming this is an alpha and that they'll show up at release.... I hope

So there are alternate models for hte characters or something? I couldnt help but notice his actual character in the class selection screen didnt actually depict that model so I have no idea whats going on there.

You'd staple down the basics like "what classes are there" in an alpha.
Not that you can really call this an alpha, its an already released and working title, they just added some more assets (and taken out more it seems)

I think the games are more optimized then they appear, in a way. The problem is the creators don't fool the player. If there is a swarm of bugs every bug is rendered with ai and collision computed. In a big explosion physics kick in for every part created by the damage. They could bullshit some optimizations by making faraway horde a single unit or disabling physics for most of objects when fps dip but it would be less impressive game.

And I would love to see their pathfinding algorithm for ants. The fuckers find a way on any angled or curved surface (90 degrees or upside down) and the calculations don't kill the processor when facing several hundreds at the same time.

>we lost Air Raider and Fencer
There are 4 class slots in the menu. They're just not ready yet.

The game is built on top of 4.1, we're definitely getting best classes back.

>they upgraded the city graphics when thats the most taxing and least relevant thing ever
Environments are least taxing, actually. Though I bet the problem with collapsing buildings destroying framerate is still a thing.

HOLY FUCK. THOSE GIANT PEPES ARE AWESOME.

Why a low budget game like this makes me feel more hype than any fucking AAA game out there...?

We'll see.
Well atleast giving ranger sprinting could also mean that if we get a fencer he'll not be the gimped assclown he is now, and hopefully get a default movement option that doesnt need 2 specific weapons equipped...

Did they take sprinting from IA yet?

From what I read the first two missions are set in a prison, it looks to be map related and if I were to guess the first 2 missions here are the tutorial of the game while your character still has a "police uniform" to later having the standard.

Though I actually hope there are alt costumes you can pick.

>11:50
>[muffled Shadilay in distance]

Wow, is the first time I got trips. And nobody is saying anything about this...

Significantly reduced price.

Because it actually has gameplay and isn't a walky fealsy movie.

Yes, you can sprint now. The issue I see is that every gameplay footage I see still has people rolling around, I hope it isnt one of those fucking games where there is a sprint but its still fucking faster to roll.

This.
Even normally I'd not think EDF a full priced title but definitely not in this case if this gets released next year.

Sprint seems to have a "start up" animation which is weird. Like roadie running in Gears of War

Well that sprint seems to be useless for anything but getting from A to B the fastest - but it doesn't let you retain awareness of the battle or even see half the map like when diagonal rolling.

>>separate jump/dodge/fly buttons
Jesus fuck, this.

There's more than enough buttons on the gamepad, why the fuck are rolls and jumps mapped to the same one?

I havent played for a while but arent there some buttons that arent used for anything? Seems very odd.

Wingdiver looks like shi....bottom half is the only redeeming feature.

This is a new timeline by the way, the producer confirmed it on 4gamer.

I would of been worried about Air Raider and Fencer not making it but that class select menu was clearly made for 4 classes.
Though at the same time that would sadly mean no new ones either.

Holy shit tearing those giant spess frogs to pieces and they keep fighting. Looks funky.

praise kek

>lazor machineguns still makes your roll lose all momentum
why tho

>made for 4 classes

Well duh its clearly just EDF4.1's modified...
Clearly I'm the pessimistic one here but it looks to me that the menu wasn't altered yet, not that the classes haven't been put there...

I feel like the only motherfucker that noticed those frog-like enemies would've fit well in prey 2. It even has the style similar to that.

Stagger mechanic. The game is not supposed to be piss easy, you know. In 2025/4.1 "flying vehicles" saucers had shitty damage output, but their role was to pin players in place by staggering them.

Nice digits

>shitty damage output

I'd say they have pretty good damage output considering theres always 800 of them, all of them are scripted to flank and rear you and once one staggers you the rest just gangs up

Yeah it's built off on it but nah? This shit has already been altered.

M8 in Inferno the "flying vehicle" enemy not only will stun lock you but do a fuck ton of damage for something that's "supposed" to be a low class enemy. Even worse in DLC2 where the Red version of those lock on from you across the map.

Will they EVER use a new engine?

Not fast drones, slow laser ones.
Strange, but I always found them harder on easier difficulties than Inferno or Hardest. They move slower there that allows them to land more shots on you in one pass. On Inferno they move too fast to keep you pinned.

They both do solid damage, its easily enough to whittle you down even if its not as deadly as getting a facefull of ant-spunk at point blank.

When 2-3 of those shits lock onto you and you have 3 second of reloading you'll lose plenty of HP even on HARD

There's an actually trailer from D3 that's uploaded in 1080 60fps.

>>What more did you want?
Simultaneous PC release.

this. and maybe some quality of life improvements over 4.1's port

>The new particle and splatter effects

Holy shit I am so fucking hype. It manages to look so similar yet also so much better than EDF 4 at the same time

new UI and animations just to freshen things up

new engine while they're at it, why not

I mean it looks okay, but when you slap on a big new number I expect a few more changes than what I've seen so far. I was more excited for Godzilla and giant mechs in 4.1 than I am for anything in the footage I've seen so far.

Looks more like DLC than anything else.

This.

It looks like EDF 4.5

Yeah but that doesn't show off Gameplay well.

here it is anyway: youtube.com/watch?v=AUWHIy9pR9s

As awesome of a couch coop game these are, after playing 4.1 on pc, i'm NEVER getting one on console ever again.

you guys want reboot? thats how you get reboot

What doees that even mean

Come on, now. EDF5 is an obvious reskin of 2025, it's nowhere near to what 2017 was to 2 or 2025 to 2017. 5 feels more like an Assassin's Creed / CoD / FarCry type of sequel.

This IS a reboot, user. It's a completely different timeline than the other games

Also, I'd be completely fine with this type of "sequel" was sold for $20, but you know as well as me that D3 are going to jew out again and ask $50 for the thing.

Wow, looks like the same shit

for what i see its not on the 2017 branch of games, but the ps2 ones
also i think i see instead/apart underground nest missions, i think there are base defence and assaults inside alien bases

with some luck we will get all the good od 2025 and some of the older games, mainly more enemy variety

I think he's talking about a reboot like Insect Armageddon.

Then he is stupid, IA was like it was not because its a reboot, but because it was a different developer.

>giving shit to sandlot as if they were AAA devs

Nobody did that.
Everything we wanted was kept relative to the series.

...

Still not as good as Pale Wing but I think the design looks nicer than the last Wing Diver.

That map looks cool though

Same, Wing Diver was a hot mess, really, everything about her design aside from wing kit looked really trashy.

Thankfully this design looks kinda reminiscent of the Pale Wings

I posted this before near the top but I would be totally OK with this new costume if it wasn't for the bottom half of it.

DESU worst part of the Wing Diver costume to me was the whole shitty "shiny" look it had.

I love it, business up top, party down below.

>if it wasn't for the bottom half of it.

You are gay son.
Finally it isn't just trying to be sexy, but actually is.

I don't know what you're talking about guys. Even the first 2 missions they've showed so far felt pretty fresh.
They'll definitely add more to the 800 weapons, maybe removes some shitty ones.
I fucking pray for an upgraded laser chainsaw
They might even rework some of the classes more.

It's almost guaranteed to be better than 4.1 because all they do is improve upon existing stuff instead of reinventing everything from scratch. It what small Jap developers always do since they don't have enough budget to redesign everything.

>that bottom half

holy shit my sides

I kinda want alternative costumes, like the police uniform we saw.
The problem with that is that it just invites DLC.

Knowing D3, there will be a shitton of DLCs anyway.

Do you actually play EDF for titillation M8.

This new costume is the epitome of "I'm gonna pick the female character so I can stare at ass."

No, but theres also nothing in this game to warrant "taking it seriously" bar winning.
So if theres a half naked air bitch, it should atleast look good and sport some ZR, instead of the flying hooker in plastic shit we have now.

Good to see new aliens.

*holy shit my dick

I just think there's so many other games you could be playing for that kind of stuff, but whatever I'm sounding more offended by this than I actually am. I actually prefer this costume over the current one at least.

They are actual ayyyys too.

>frog actually sneaking around the city
That's cool.

Theres not a single non-porn or non-porn-modded game that I play "for" the lewd stuff, characters or outfits in it.

I just don't think having our wing divers in short shorts as a downside to anything at all, its a goofy game no matter how you look at it.

Imagine the moral boost of these asses floating above you, theres a reason the EDF can still sing in the face of death and a gajillion agressive giant insects.

Oh shit I thought they are just badass hectors.
Gigantic grey men, how wrong we were!

Please tell me that Armor crates now apply to all classes when collected.
This is all I fucking want.

Thank god for cheat engine.

>gore splatter
>can dismember the frogs
>different big alien

Dunno, might be cool.

I like the fact we can actually see what the invading forces look like now, rather than just their ships. The frogs and the ayy lmaos look cool as fuck. Does that mean Earth is getting tag teamed by them?

>stunlock is still in
>flying around the city with those fucks jumping and rolling around everywhere shooting at you

Dunno, might be hell.

>might be hell.
This is the EDF son. We walk through hell and come out singing on the other side.

>no pepe/wojack shop yet

>Ravagers having to call in for an assist

Frogs are obviously another foray by the ayys into genetic engineering and turning native species into weapons.

>implying

>Frog explodes into a giant blue blood spray

Cool

I also noticed that frogs at least communicate with each other when in group, at least it looked like that. In demo at one point one frop made a gesture with its hand and whole group that was standing in place began to move.
Everything explodes on death now and it's glorious. I thought killing ants already felt great, but they managed to crank it up to 11. Or like flying drones explode with chunks of shattered glass flying everywhere.

Oh shit, someone saved my stupid little photoshop, hell yeah

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So what city are the new levels based on?
Seems like France or something.

Is this the most American franchise to ever exist?

Guns
Violence
HUMANITY FUCK YEAH
Hot bitches
Tanks
Robots

My first thought was London, because EDF 2 had some levels set there but I'm not 100% sure
It's cool that they're putting in a lot more effort with the enemies this time round. From what little they've shown already, it looks to be much more interesting.

Not while this exists.

I just hope dragons will make a return.

I'm pretty sure they are redone London levels from an earlier game.

I got to say considering how much they like to recycle stuff they better keep all enemies from 4.1, don't remove shit like hectors just cause we got frog people now.

>they picked frogs
>to hold guns and behave like men

Gotta say theres a ton of deadly animals I'd go for before frogs, unless using their poison.

Nothing american about those things.

Will they let you dive this time or at least make the boxes float?

that's saints row 4

They did add sprint because fans were asking them about it, maybe they'll unfuck water and turn down the armor grind too while they're at it.

Fucking dragons. Another arch-nemesis for Air Raiders.

>Oh hey there, hope you don't mind while I pick you up and eat your ass
>What's that? You don't have any weapons that can kill me? Sucks to be you.

user don't be so stupid

everyone knows giant insects can't fly

I just want Fencer fixed.
weaknesses piled upon weaknesses piled upon weaknesses, and even the exploited movement is not enough to make up for any of it.

Reminds me, always thought it was strange how the insects ignore water even exists.

>You don't have any weapons that can kill me? Sucks to be you.
Wire shot and high caliber Whale cannon with 200p charge.

yeah, only if you have it on you. Playing online you usually just have things to support the team.

How would it guarantee better performance over a more mature engine?

>don't remove shit like hectors just cause we got frog people now.

This is what I'm afraid of.

>they leave them all in
Makes it obvious that this is nothing more than an expansion at best.
>takes them out
Low content and a standalone game that cannot really stand alone.

>TRIPS
PRAISE KEK

Wire guns were much much MUCH better in 2025 like lol, they thought it was a good idea to nerf every single Wire gun's damage by a whopping 2/3s for 4.1.

And limpets by 1/3. They seemingly really didn't like Air Raiders being able to handle themselves competently without a vehicle/air support.

The new drones are just decent looking reskins of the old drones i do kind of like the old spere like shape of the old, hoping these frogs aren't a replacement either.

I wouldn't mind something like the tripods from EDF 2. Exact same function as the hectors, but I always thought looked much more creepy and "alien".

I didnt understand many changes either.
I found the plasma lineup on WD to be entirely useless now, while on the 360 they were solid in damage output atleast.

>And I would love to see their pathfinding algorithm for ants. The fuckers find a way on any angled or curved surface (90 degrees or upside down) and the calculations don't kill the processor when facing several hundreds at the same time.

Yeah, it's fucking impressive. From a distance they always look like real ants swarming.

>always thought EDF series is garbage
>play it
>EDF! EDF! EDF!
Just how

EDF is FUN

It's almost a cult at this point. And we don't even really have to do anything. Just play the game. You'll convert. YOU ALL WILL! EDF! EDF!

I actually can't believe they nerfed one of the howitzer line of strikes to not come fully credited, they were already very niche in use. (or for dropping them off a Helicopter and quickly getting back in trick.)

As well as all whale weaponry was quite useful already despite being grenade thrown in 2025, gets buffed.

Meanwhile bunch of meme weaponry like impulse, rollers and shit that no one will ever use besides as a joke in higher difficulties were untouched.

Honestly I wouldn't mind the weapon roster wiped in 70%.

Theres so much useless shit its not even fucking funny anymore, and the 4.1 nerfs just made entire columns shit.

its fun blowing up cities just to kill a ton of bugs user

Yeah, especially shit that should be fun, like the SDL bikes. Except guess what, most of them are uncontrollable so have fun never being able to be cool.

EDF looks several times worse than how it plays.

I honestly look down upon people who can't enjoy EDF or Serious Sam games atleast a bit

>get to the mission when main base is attacked by dragons

Shouldn't be feelin, but I'm feelin.

Wing diver can lose 90% of homing weapons and all particle cannons. Not even mentioning "special" weapons which are just waste of development time that could've been spent elsewhere.
Remove all the meme non-Vulcan Hammer melee weapons from fencer or at least buff their damage.

I don't really see what you can take away from other classes though because they are all kinda usable in certain situations.

Honestly, I don't think EDF would be as charming if it actually had good graphics or whatever.
Being janky is why it's so great.

Roller mines and C4 I never really used with Air Raider, but I guess they could be used too.

This. I don't think upgrading the graphics is the best practice for EDF games.

So basically we got

>better graphics (not gonna impress anybody with them but whatevs)
>running with the most boring class
>giant frogs with detachable limbs
>enemies now jizz in the buildings when getting shot

If this

>could handle more than 4 guys or at least better servers than previous games
>had free dlcs
>had at least one new class

I would consider buying it. I'm a fan but I'll guess I'll pass on this one...

The animations of the new enemies look fun, though but still not enough for a new game

Literally every second weapon of the ranger is outclassed by another one of the same level range in all ways.
Theres just no point to half of them.

Also fuck everything that needs a guide kit, and as you said, all special weapons, they arent even "ineffective but fun to use", they are all literal shit with one time use and other worthless gimmicks.

>Remove all the meme non-Vulcan Hammer melee weapons from fencer or at least buff their damage.

Normal hammers are the ideal weapon against green ant swarms. And don't talk shit about the spears.

>today we become dragon skaters slayers
>the rest of the mission is depressing as fuck
I just wanted to be a army man

>>had free dlcs

how much of a bottomfeeder do you have to be to list free dlc as a positive that would make you buy a game?

Your opinion is worthless just like you are.

And they do it on Vita, no less! That's the most interesting part.

>fucking around Crimson inferno as WD
>let's try this "Final Days" special weapon or whatever, I mean it's level 87 it must be something
>creates a 5 line fence
>oh cool maybe I can stunlock entire hordes now
>enemy touches the source
>line completely disappears doing no damage

What were they thinking really?

>one column of melee weapons full of axes, hammers and whatnot
>like 1-2 situationally useful things in it altogether

Spears have their own column.
If they removed the first melee column from fencer right now I think less than 1% of the playerbase would care.

The C4 mines can be incredibly useful in the underground levels. Just throw them off cliffs, or stick them to the motorcycle and get the fuck out of the way

Spears aren't melee, they are CC-Piercers category

>CC-Strikers
>CC-Piercers
>Both mean close combat
>Not melee

Given how repetitive this game can get and how the prequels have done so little to make most missions something other than "this one is good for farming/oh boy, time to get the easy classes - lower the difficulty for this one" I do think we should get more content for the entry fee, user...

You know
> servers will he trash
> music will he reused
> half the missions will be familiar if you have played any prequel before

I ask for more missions so grinding is not such a pain in the ass

Fine.
All CC-strikers then.
Not to mention the spears reach to about a 100+ meters later on though.

IF YOU COULD ADD ONE FEATURE TO THIS GAME TO MAKE IT MUCH BETTER, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

With weapon balancing there is a issue as well with shit becoming even bigger shit when online with 4 people and enemies with their higher health. Have fun with a ton of trash lock on missile weapons taking a year to kill anything.

>Wing Diver specials

Hey guys I got a great idea, lets make a weapon where if any enemy so much as grazes it's ass on it, it vanishes. Also lets make this weapon take a year to reload.

>talking shit about guide kit

M8 you can destroy the Inferno Argo in under a minute on his first encounter with a single Leviathan Fencer user, the actual issue on that map is the drones.

(Actually killing bosses too quickly with Leiv is an issue all round making the enemy throw everything it was gonna gradually spawn all at once at you.)

Looks like Pale Wing is back. Not that it's much of a difference

Add more songs to sing

I know all that user.

But ask for content - not "free dlc", thats just fucking retarded, you are behaving literally like someone conditioned to think that new content can only come as DLC.

Let WD sing.
Get the cleaning lady to record some lines, I don't care, just let her sing.

Wait, you can't sing as her? That's fucking bullshit

>all the talk about the "hero from 8 years ago"
>all the talk about the Storm Team near the end of the game
>the sad EDF fight song

>(Actually killing bosses too quickly with Leiv is an issue all round making the enemy throw everything it was gonna gradually spawn all at once at you.)

I've noticed that, which is why I never found that shit useful.
But anyway thats not the point - where do I wipe my ass with Prominence?
Does the air raider really have to waste a fucking weapon slot so that mine weapon becomes "normal"?

These things are stupid, they shouldn't make cooperation work only through mutually gimping yourselves so that when you work together you are 20% better than if you were working side by side - or kill yourselves through what you said.

Now I'm saying this from the Fencer side and I'm obviously burnt out and bummed out about the entire class anyway.

Cred Forums's Kek is a mix of primordial god of darkness Kek and goddess of fertility Heqet.

Its because they keep mixing Heqet's name with Kek's.

Well, if it's gonna be free content, they could send another CD to my house or they could just give content... you know, that I can download... for... free, maybe?!

Oh no, wait, that last thing sounds too complicated and too retarded. Just send the CD by mail, guys.

Thank you.

Seriously though, that footage doesn't justify a new game which was my initial point

You can, but there is no actual sound coming, just text.

than word it like someone who isn't 13 and grew up on new-age gaming.

Fucking this. I've been playing co-op all the way through with a friend and it's irritating that WD can't sing along properly.

(not that guy)
Which is BS, just fucking hire one bitch to do the EDF deplooooooys, how expensive can that be?!?

Oh its coming alright

I think that user's point is that you didn't say something like "future content patches", since DLC implies something that you have to buy. They can just update the game with new content.

theearthdefenseforce.wikia.com/wiki/Brain
>digging through the edf wiki for shits
>The final paragraph of the brain page
>"In "Starry Prison" the same three phases are encountered, but the first phase has no spawner plates (instead there is a force of Hectors under the low-level Earth Eaters), the second phase spawns Gold Ants and Silver Spiders because the final DLC hates you on a very profound and personal level, and the Brain only actually shows up with the third phase. "
>because the final DLC hates you on a very profound and personal level

>With weapon balancing there is a issue as well with shit becoming even bigger shit when online with 4 people and enemies with their higher health. Have fun with a ton of trash lock on missile weapons taking a year to kill anything.

I love fencers using light/dispersal Mortar trash scattering enemies everywhere when myself as Fencer am trying to to funnel and kill all this shit quickly with a spear. Bonus points for friendly fire.

Are two deidity into one deidity,
the idols are both frightnening and silly

No, I'm soooooorry all of you but DLC means downloadable content. That's its definition. Your implying is your own fault. Don't drag me into this.

So it outsold the PS4 version?
What about 2025 sales?

>the second phase spawns Gold Ants and Silver Spiders
That's fucking nothing.
On inferno, it's the red flying machines and dragons that will fuck you up.

That's retail which was hard to come by. Game is sold on PSN too.

Two days ago my brother died next day my lover fell
Today most everyone was killed on that we must not dwell
But we will never leave the field we'll never say farewell
The EDF deploys!

Dude, English is my second language and I'm actually living in a french speaking country. I'm sorry if I talk like this but how many languages do you know? When one has to learn one quickly, one tends to use easy words to be more practical. I'm sorry

8 player co-op
online split screen co-op
some sort of GATTAI vehicle for air raiders, like a megazord type balam made of tanks
diving mechanics
make it so that some levels have built in air strike supports that use the target/beacon guns
make bikes and helicopters not handle like shit
escort missions

There's also gold spiders.

Why did you join the EDF?

It just felt right.

>implying

This is one big problem with explosive on later difficulties.
They aren't doing enough damage to kill and just send ant and spiders all over the place to let them flank you from behind.

I mean the 35mm cannon does 10K per shot and 2 NC290 cannons dish out extreme damage as well. Why would you use anything else really.
Also lock on missiles become really useless later on because they don't reload while not equipped so you have to wait 10 seconds for them to reload then another 10 second for full lock on which leaves you extremely vulnerable.

The really need to rethink some of the weapon balance.

The Nereid and Brute helis are fine.

2025 sold about 250k in its first week in Japan I think

I wanted some of that wing diver punani

>I mean the 35mm cannon does 10K per shot and 2 NC290 cannons dish out extreme damage as well. Why would you use anything else really.

Because of the fascination people have with explosives, you can see in these EDF5 videos too, Rangers using the shit Stingray for everything, not it's intended target of far away enemies.

I see so many Air Raiders overlooking the whole EXCELLENT Whale line cause it doesn't make "big boom."

There's an easy solution for that.
Just buff the big boom.

What's American about any of that?

Independence Day: The Video Game

To finally have friends

TO KICK THEM DAMN DIRTY ALIENS OF MY AMERIC- I MEAN EARF!

Optional RTS elements where you can co-ordinate a massive EDF battalion and they're style of combat for each operation. If you don't want to do it, the devs will have preset plans

An actual allied squad command system, with the ability to heal each other and save the player, vice versa. A small personal platoon that always sticks by your side.

I haven't figured out how to make this work. I have a feeling when you get into those massive deathswarm moments they would drop like flies and you'd have "REVIVE ME" everywhere. That shit would be annoying.
But I hate how the EDF itself in-game is a fucking joke and you singlehandedly have to win every battle yourself, completely alone.

Motherbase exploration and customization, but don't make it a grindy shitfest like MGSV. It serves as the new menu system. You can access every feature by activating things like lockers, battle plans and comms. Or just use a drop-down menu.
In co-op the lobby lets you explore the host's motherbase.

I would like more imeeeeersion in my silly giant bug shooter. But I want the flow to stay intact.

They should. It's just annoying meanwhile to have to deal with people ignoring recommendations of explosives not being that great in higher difficulties online with multiple people .

>Lemme just use Charon bomber here to kill like 10 ants, 20 NPCS and myself then stare at the pretty fire and feel accomplished while I wait for someone to revive me to do it again.

Sir, because I heard ant pussy is the best, sir!

The only thing that really gives me frame rate drops is when big buildings go down.

Giant Mechs.

More missions like Brute Force but where you could actually give some commands would be cool.

Join in progress or option to filter out rooms that are in progress

Fuck EDF. When will we get a sequel to Robot Alchemic Drive?

WE BATTLETOADS NOW

I like that the levels seem to be breaking away from the traditional EDF layout. Like already, the first level takes place in an underground bunker, the second a military base and the third being a battle in London(?) against giant frogs.

I think this is definitely one if the better things I've seen of the game, because its finally breaking away from the normal formula.

Like literally, every EDF game has the same level structure. The ant levels in cities, then the hectors arriving from sea, the red ants on beach level, the 3 level in a row cave missions, with the second one always being the one where you're surrounded at all angles. It gets repetitive and I'm glad to see they're trying to mix it up

I just hope we get more Mobile Fortress missions.

>i want the strongest class to be fixed

>animations are the same from 4.1
>models also seem to be the same from 4.1
>graphics basically unchanged even though it's a new generation of consoles

It looks like DLC for 4.1 at best, I'm not seeing anything new, I was hoping they would include some new classes at least.

Man, i really want good melee weapons.

The problem with EDF soldiers isn't necessarily their strategy or coordination; the problem is that they almost never get upgraded equipment except in the rare few missions where they are meant to win without you. The most that a player needs for effective command is a simple command wheel and for orders (via wheel or ingame chat), to tell them to attack or defend a target or location, follow or wait, keep distance or stay close; very simple toggle options.

It would be nice if the player could control what equipment the NPCs have. Perhaps after unlocking a weapon, the player can assign the preset generic soldier roles within a mission to use a particular weapon. If stricter balancing is desired, this can be locked by level and by a points system so that the soldiers can't all be equipped with the best possible stuff, for example, having to lower the grade of the rifles of all standard rangers to bump up the level of the rocket launchers carried by the rangers that are flagged to carry them.

>I'm not seeing anything new
Look again

reskinned enemies aren't new content user

We are missing the Virgil character in this game. Then again, that wouldn't be very EDF.

ok

You would think that the world governments would give the EDF a blank check to upgrade every time the ravagers come knocking.

At least a mech with melee stuff.

The first two missions are set in a prison and follow up on each other directly. Considering t hey contain only grey ants I'm assuming this is the "fancy" tutorial, including prison uniform for probably because you haven't joined the EDF yet or some shit.

It's looking nice right now since we haven't seen the same level repeated over and over and the fact that they specially made this demo to show off new stuff, I'm sure we will see the same thing you listed again anyway in addition.

Game runs extremely well on PC.
I'd say its optimized enough.

Well the DLC mission packs had a somewhat different mission structure.

If they keep it that way the game will be harder and more diverse.

Because giant ants killed my family

This, give the walker a sword or some shit

I wouldn't be surprised if the frogs are also referred to as "giant insects".

Ohara is a fucking idiot. The Dragons are obviously reptiles. Not insects.

They are called colonists for some reason.

>Let's barbeque those beetles!
>no actual beetles
Always threw me off

>Not a translation error for "giant lifeforms"

They are from Earth?
THEN THEY ARE JUST FUCKING INSECTS.

I fucking wish

But they're insects that transformed.

>hear about giant insects that can jump
>expect to see some grasshoppers
>it actually just jumping stpiders

I hope there's something that will make picking up boxes less tedious

More like EDF 4.2

"We are goin' in with the first wave; means more bugs for us to kill! You smash the entire area, you kill anything with more'n two legs, you get me?!"

"C'mon you apes! Do you want to live forever!"

>tfw playing 4.1 as a Ranger with dark grey armour listening to Klendathu Drop

youtube.com/watch?v=KpgyRjHJp-k

>Man, there's a ton of benefits for joining the EDF
>Says here I can get promoted quickly too
>What do I have to lose

To save our Mother Earth from any Alien attack!

Mobile Infantry does the dyin, the fleet just does the flyin.

Has someone made any EDF recruitment posters?

I wonder if there will ever be flyable jets in EDF
Actually, thinking about EDF if they expanded the scale even more and let you play around with multiple aspects of the military rather than just being grunts on the ground with occasional air raider support really makes me want to play something like that.

MLA mod exist for EDF?

1-2 From vicious giant insects who have once again come back!

A jumpy jet or vf mech type of thing would probably fit well in the game I think. Or at least a mech with wing diver style controlled jump jets.

1-3 We'll unleash all our forces we won't cut them any slack!

How do I not suck ass when playing Air Raider or Fencer?

The only thing is if the mechs get too good they would overshadow the other classes a bit, maybe
They look a bit more advanced in 5 than in previous games so maybe they're slowly ramping them up, although I suspect they'll still be pretty clunky

Air Raider vacuum gun pls.

Air Raider: Support the team, bringing the thunder
Fencer: Go fast, go hard. Or play siege mode.

You think the Pro might make EDF run a little better?

Modern science can only achieve so much.

If it's just a content expansion I expect content-expansion price.

Actually, looking at how fast the frogs and big ayy lmaos move, the mechs would have to be at least decently quick to not get murdered by them. But who knows, really.

I dont know,but the giant fortress balam , makes my dick so hard

The DLC missions didn't have to gradually start off easy and slowly one by one introduce new enemies. I would love it if all the missions in the game were like the DLC ones but that isn't going to happen.

>playing with a friend
>they go air raider
>progressing through hard
>they got the balam that actually has useable weapons
>still hasn't used it
I need to pester them until they do

The weapons are a joke and I'm going to guess it's on purpose considering the dev's "joke weapon" humor, it's really impossible to accidentally design weapons so shit that wasn't on purpose.

In the end the Final Balam has none just like the first.

Well that's disappointing. But still, I would like to at least see it.

PS. A Proteus with a single person in it is better at killing several Erginuses than the Balam, the actual weapon made for killing them.

Something a late DLC2 mission will teach you by force as Air Raider.

BUT WILL IT BE ON THE FUCKING XBONE?

>In the end the Final Balam has none just like the first.
What? Even the second Balamb has guns. They're not that bad actually. I haven't tried any Balamb after the second though.

I like EDF 4.1 trailers

*gasp* Unauthorized access to Satellite Orbit Weapon Nothung

Yes it just goes back to having just fists.

The vehicles that require multiple people to even move and fire weapons at once as air raider really bug me
I know they're for coop and stuff so that people have an incentive to get in vehicles, but it's not as though other players don't have anything better to do unless they're also air raiders who wasted everything else they have.

No. Crossplay would be nice, I mean the players are fairly small in number it would be nice if everyone was in one place.

English is my second language too and yet I don't confuse "content" with marketing terms.

>but it's not as though other players don't have anything better to do
user, when you're getting overrun, having a proteus with 20k+ health and massive firepower nearby can make all the difference.

The proteus is a bit of an exception since it actually has armour and weapons worth a damn, but the other multiple seat vehicles are really situational at best (aside from joke ones like the bike)

If EDF was moddable it would be the best game ever within a year.

add mod support and I'm a day one buy for pc. Still enjoy 4.1, but this looks nice as well. Liking that new WD too.

The Brute Helicopter is instant cheese on any map that doesn't have flying enemies, problem is no one wants to use it.

Truly science has proven that no matter who or what the enemy is, you just need bigger fists to beat it to death.

The early helicopters are ass to control, is why, even if some of them like the vulture are quite cost effective if you can aim properly

how hard is it to even get a hold of that?

Yeah but I meant as in even if someone take's the helicopter lol @ no one else getting in.

Talking about the 3 seat helicopter here just to be clear.

Think they call it the Howard engine?

>Cosmonauts
Aliums confirmed for commies.

I've only played 2017 with a room mate and we had a blast. Worth getting 4.1?

Yes

Is he playing on god mode or something? Those frogs were blasting the shit out of him for like 5 straight minutes, I thought you're supposed to die in a few hits in EDF.

Difficulty m8. Playing on normal you can tank for days even as wing diver a lot of times.

Ah okay, makes sense.

Steamspy is accurate withing the range that they give (+/- 6000).
VGCharts literally makes up numbers, then if there are any retail leaks on real numbers they go back and change them so they're accurate.
It wouldn't surprise me if it did better on Steam, but please don't use VGCharts as your source for that.

In EDF Normal is more like Easy, Hard is Normal, etc.

The jump from Hard to Hardest is huge though. Hardest is actually hardest. There is no proper hard difficulty in EDF.

You do know EDF 4.1 on PC has couch coop, right?

>Fencer

Equip a Blasthole Spear and a Tower Shield, congrats you are now well equipped to kill 90% of things as long as you keep attacking while being mobile by canceling spear attacks into dashes, the shield will stop anything that does manage to hit you.

2017 removed a lot of features from EDF1 and was actually a simple remake of EDF1. I'll agree that the jump from 2017 to 2025 was huge, which this one might not be, but from the look of it, it seems Sandlot is trying to polish their game and making the existing features better such as adding a sprint for ranger.

Is not a ridiculous jump as long as you're well equipped from hard.

Exactly, it's impossible to beat it on hardest on your first go while hard is perfectly viable. I made it till mission 50 on hardest till I gave up and continued on hard as everything was one hit killing me.

This is a five night freddy tier game series and you keep falling far it. Not impressed

Oh I see what you mean now.

Actually, the weapon level limit is what hurts in Hardest the most.
Inferno is easier sometimes because there's no limit.
Enemies kill you so fast on both difficulties you don't want to get hit anyway and limiting your weapons isn't doing much to help.

>a Bar named All Your Base

When/Where?

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>Hardest is actually hardest
Until you reach 70% completion and it suddenly becomes as easy as the below difficulties.

I wonder how many stuff they've snuck into all those moon billboards in 4.1.

Is this how people play Fencer on easy and normal?

I like to think no one from here ever plays on normal or below. I personally prefer the spine driver + nc100 cannon combo for my dash cancels, gives decent long range damage whilst moving.

Thats why hardest is Hard.
"normal" describes being able to go through the game without any speedbumps, which is why Hard=normal and Hardest = Hard

When shit gets hard you have to git gud and git better weapons through that atrocious fucking RNG.

Me too but then I'd never touch a greatshield, maybe for solo or something

You're an idiot, this actually becomes better the higher difficulty you go because the Blasthole spear gets incredible distances with great damage and piercing.

The Tower Shield is there in the case that you do take a hit and you don't need to play as careful as you would using javelin to dash cancel, otherwise if you are using a shield to reflect you aren't using the spear and this isn't worth while for normal enemies until Gold Ant / Silver Spider Spam.

This is the layout I spend most of my time utilizing Online for clearing Hardest and Inferno, normally on the other hand I have Battle Cannons / Hand Cannon / Hand Cannon + Melee.

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P-pepe?

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Did you know the reason these shits destroy Vehicles so quickly is because they programed their webs to inflict damage on several hitbox passthroughs?

It's not like any of our weapons piercing (except flamethrowers!) that goes through an enemy and only does damage once.

Some of our weapons pierce. Some ranger ones I think, and I know the Railguns go right through groups.

IIRC most class have some form of weapons with piercing properties.

Ranger has Stringer, Flamethrower
Air Raider has Limpet/Claymore ricochet,Web shot, Railgun
Fencer has an arsenal of armor piercing weapon
Wing Diver has ???

Yeah but I mean our piercing weapons (besides flamethrowers) can go through several of the enemy's hitboxes and only apply the damage once as you would expect.

Spider's Web doesn't follow this law, say it shoots web at a Gigantus passing through several of it's hitboxes, each hitbox it passes through will apply damage for each one.

Ah, yeah that's true.

Those particle effects and slpashes makes it 10 times funnier.

The webshots have the saem spider bug where each segment of the web can cause damage. if the weapon had hairworks tessellation on them it's be too OP.
But I don't think the ricochet weapons pierce and the wing diver's lighting bounding all over the place is their equivalent of piercing.

>Spider's Web doesn't follow this law, say it shoots web at a Gigantus passing through several of it's hitboxes, each hitbox it passes through will apply damage for each one.

Actually if I were to guess this is probably some unintended side effect of how the spiders web is essentially a ton of shots all linked together as separate parts for the physics, so the game thinks each "pass" is a new "bullet."

I would welcome it but I can already see some reactions to that.

>but PC players cheet

>Rangers form the core of the EDF ground forces and are highly trained frontline infantry able to use a variety of weapons and respond to many situations, admittedly usually by dying a lot.

They still didn't do jack all on modding for EDF 4.1 despite saying they would look into it for PC on the steam forums.

I would be really surprised if the PC release for EDF5 has anything at all.

Japs cannot into PC gaming, this has been a thing since videogames first began. Sad too, alot of nip games are flawed and need very simply tweaks to become amazing games.

>huge frogs

YES

youtube.com/watch?v=xGzCnn8x_Mg

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