STORM THEM

It's almost like Dark Eldar are poorly implemented into this game.

The campaign strongholds all feel like shit, honestly. They feel incredibly scripted and filed with the worst examples of artificial difficulty.

How is that so? They can shit all over everyone in early game you scrub.

Just use the dogs and lots of flying boats, that what I did.

I don't really like the Warphounds, because the sisters use flamers that drain morale, and the dogs eat themselves with low morale.

Your favourite mods? For me it's UA altough it completly FUCKED UP Orks, Firestorm over Kaurava is neat but I doubt even my grandchildren will be able to play the final version as the fucking thing is in perma beta.

How did UA fuck up the Orkz?

Your initial Ork pop is absurdly low and it takes too long to get things going, by the time you have basic Boyz and Shootas enemy already can start producing light tanks.

I recall it being a radius thing as well

>early game
>in a stronholg mission
Yeah, have fun.

These things made me quit Dark Crusade. Chaos will spawn a infinite number of these with an infinite number of defilers that I just couldn't fucking progress.

Fixed like the bayonet.
Keep up the good work soldier.

>playing campaign
>in Soulstorm at that

wow I wonder where lies the problem

Sounds like someone got their squad wiped out by a S10 Blast plate

>destroy a chaos icon
>A horror and obliterator squad come out

Who thought this was fun? At least you can destroy the defiler factory.

It was almost certainly a radius buff.

From what I've heard, the guard aren't even that good now.

Eldar, Space Marines, Necrons, and Tau dominate.

I'm sad the Grey Knights aren't overpowered, I think Matt Ward's Grey Knight codex had some incredible fluff, and I loved the sheer amount of customization I could have.

I think 40K is a dumb fucking, cringeworthy piece of shit for fedoras and dregs of society.

Yeah if i could even reach the defiler factory which was behind a giant wall of defilers and Horror Squads other infantry included. What the fuck was up with this difficulty spike. The area's defense was even at a 4.

How, user. Try to not use memes.

What faction were you playing?

Space Marines. Horror Squads can really fuck up vehicles and take forever to kill. Defilers are actually weak compared to Dreadnaughts but when they could have 10 defilers at once while I can only spawn like 1 dreadnaught because of my predator tanks it was hopeless.

Fuck those things.
>Install that cool mod that adds titans and lots of units in Dark Crusade
>Try the campaing as necrons
>Try to conquest the territory that gives you 2 attacks per turn
>3 of those units eat through all of my vehicles while obliterators destroy my skellies

Should've spammed more scarabs

You can use the hounds to tank all those flames and have a witch use the combat drugs so they dont break.

Wait, the drugs have a radius effect too?

I really want a 40K game in the vein of Red Orchestra.

Yep

Enjoy your Deathwatch pace Marine FPS instead.

>UA tyranids
>not FoK tyranids

It makes no sense to use trench warfare and swords in a setting with nuclear bombs and plasma weapons, every faction tries to out-edge the competiton by either wasting lives of their own soldiers or some boring rants about how much they love torture which is supposed to be grimdark but is just stupid, a lot of Space Marines chapters and IG regiments are very uncreative it's just ''it's X but in space!'' so we have retarded looking shit like space teutonic knights, space vikings, space napoleonic era soldiers etc which according to it's 13yo fanbase is ''awesome'' but for me it's kinda hard to take a guy bringing a sword and shield to a tank fight seriously.

Chaos is supposed to be this corrupting force yet what most chaos worshippers do? Go on Ork tier rampages. So corrupting and otherworldy especially Khorne which is the most generic evil god possible. The fact that almost every faction is a rip off doesn't help either.

You mean the talking Tyranids? Yeah it's such a great fucking idea to humanize swarm of planet devouring bugs.

I thought the Alpha Legion was supposed to be clever, subtle, and not really worship Chaos too much.

Why is Carron so fucking awful?

youtube.com/watch?v=Xf__Mf9zptU

>It makes no sense to use trench warfare and swords in a setting with nuclear bombs and plasma weapons

Not every faction engages in Trench warfare. Trench warfare is a result of mobility not equaling destructive capabilities. Orkz will just mob you, Eldar will outmaneuver you, Dark Eldar will raid, Tyranids swarm. IG are the ones holding it down the most, and even they can have cavalry and tank armies.

>every faction tries to out-edge the competiton by either wasting lives of their own soldiers or some boring rants about how much they love torture which is supposed to be grimdark but is just stupid

It's not edgy, it's grimdark. It's supposed to be cheesy and over-the-top.

>a lot of Space Marines chapters and IG regiments are very uncreative it's just ''it's X but in space!

Most chapters of Space Marines have no analogy to human culture, with a few exceptions like the White Scars. The most popular IG factions are the unique ones, but you can run Samurai or Arab IG if you want. It's having customization, or freedom of choice.

>space teutonic knights, space vikings, space napoleonic era soldiers etc which according to it's 13yo fanbase is ''awesome'' but for me it's kinda hard to take a guy bringing a sword and shield to a tank fight seriously.

They Grey Knights are more like Sorcerer-knights, the Space wolves are more like wolfaboo vikings. And they can take on a tank because their swords and armor are that good.

>Chaos is supposed to be this corrupting force yet what most chaos worshippers do? Go on Ork tier rampages. So corrupting and otherworldy especially Khorne which is the most generic evil god possible. The fact that almost every faction is a rip off doesn't help either.

Most of the corruption isn't happening on the tabletop. The chaos cults are corrupting people in the Imperium behind closed doors.

The Hivemind is a thing, though

THIS IS IT MEN THE MOMENT AH GLORY

WE'VE BEEN OVERRUN

youtube.com/watch?v=nb6cSEI1FLk

YOU WIWW HAVE IT

That doesn't mean Carnifex should speak human language.

I usually play with voices off but holy shit really? I've got to see this.

It's speaking Tyranid. It's for your convenience.

I don't give a flying fuck what a bug with life expectancy of 10 seconds has to say, I prefer to hear their growls like in UA.

How are you going to know you're under attack?

wh40k sets in a universe where A.I. is not allowed under any circumstances. Everything has to be maintained by near-robot former human cyborgs "Adeptus mechanicus".

Kind of like the better Dune setting

It still says my troops are under attack on the screen.

Good thing the post doesn't even mention AI right?

I've never played Dawn of War 2, only the mid-2000s one.

What am I in for?

A piece of shit.

I just bought it as well.

Tell me what to know.

Why is it shit

Alright campaign, but don't expect to play skirmish; the AI is just not capable. The mp can be fun, though you'll want to get Retribution for that.

I have every single Dawn of War 2. Why do I only want o play skirmish there?

You whine about fedoras and write this

yup

Tzeentch > Nurgle > Slaanesh> shit > Khorne

That story was hilarious, it created enough salt to power a jerky factory. I do like Matt Ward's fluff, shame GW is pushing it off now. He made way better codices than Kelly and Cruddace

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>not worshipping Slaanesh
>not living on a razor's edge
>not living a life beyond mortal comprehension

Stupid Khorne worshippers. The only thing Khorne has going for it is meme popularity, and brute strength.

>not spilling blood for the blood god every day

Copied the wrong link kill me.
youtu.be/9-gSJW3sHXE

Where are all the good IG FPS games at?

You're retarded. Several Guard regiments use modern style or futuristic tactics resolving around combined arms.
Only shitty artwork and some garbage stories make IG out as some WW2 Russia that throws people into a grinder.

Why would you play as something that literally anything in the Warhammer universe can kill in one shot.

If you fought against the tau, you'd get raped

I can already see you know fuck all about history.

200 player co-op to beat overwhelming odds

Yes a Karskin surely would drop after one fucking shot.

>WW2 Russia that throws people into a grinder.

holy shit nigga are you for real?

WITNESS

YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Well yeah.

One wound, bro.

In DC how do I build my Necrons? 2 scarabs, 2 warriors? rush wraiths?

Carapace armor won't do much against Tau rail guns and pulse rifles.

4scarabs, lord, rest of scarabs and full warriors untill you can get some immortals

Only a tomb spyder can make scarabs, and you built everything from one building.

So I say: Build 2-3 warrior squads, and then start building wraiths. Since you need a summoning core for wraiths

Embrace fate or not, it embraces you.

Does the mod exist for soulstorm?

I remember installing a full-retard mod that adds fucking everything from the board game but that was for dark crusade and I would love it for Soulstorm.

>Only a tomb spyder can make scarabs

Might be he meant these dudes.

Are Flayed ones any good? Should I use Pariahs, and how many of each infantry unit should I have?

Embrace pain, my brother!

cringe

I forgot about builder scarabs. Yeah, you want a few of those.

Flayed ones are good at demoralizing your enemy. You should use pariahs.

I can't tell you how much of each you need, because you won't need immortals and the like unless your enemy is spamming vehicles.

flayed ones have great stats but are way too fucking slow. They're cool to attack bases and tank damage. Pariahs are great but you can only have one unit of them.

1-2 units of immortals and the rest of warriors is usally a good mix, immortals aren't just good against vehicules, they have a great firepower in general and have a different range which is always good when attacking with a blob

It's a Warhammer thread, it's cringe-central. Embrace the cringe.

>IG cavalry(the horse kind)
How would this even work in an RTS?

>Quoting units is now cringy
Is this the famous neo Cred Forums?

Zerg unit with explosive lances

Would also have to have great morale and possibly provide a morale bonus in a radius
With pistols as an upgrade?

Was it heresy?

Well Deldars are my fav faction but I have to admit they are the weakest faction. Barely any units, most strong units have huge downsides, unique units have shitty abilities and the only saving grace are the whyches and the Dais of Destruction.

What's worse they turned units which should be a nightmare on the field like the mandrakes, warp beasts and Haeomunculus are fucking pathetic.

>tfw the fap pic that /tg/ wrote about this would be perfect if she didn't shit herself after the anal part
Why does /tg/ always add scat to their porn?

>playing any warhammer game for anything BUT the story.

>story
>in warhammer games

yes they are always so captivating

>the planet of Shitholia is attacked by Orks!
>omfg actually there is Chaos too
>emprah protects, btw mankind the best fuck the rest

really thought provoking and captivating

Ultimate apocalypse
>core dow feel is kept
Firestorm over Kaurava
>core game gets new mechanics to feel closer to tabletop

Both are good so it's pretty much up to you.

warhammer is war game and the whole lore is based around that

It's not very interesting story wise

Because that's what happens when you rape a girls shit hole user. Why do you think homos have to do so much preparation for anal sex
>blood from friction
>shit because your dick is basically becoming a plunger on their asshole and jerking it all out through suction

>tfw just read Baneblade
Man, I wish there were some really good IG games

But you are raping space elves
We don't know how their poopers work

But the story is the WHOLE appeal. Everything from plot points to just shit like how a gun works is fucking cool as hell its like you and your buddies sitting around a table bullshiting up a story about space without gay shit like star trek politics and then refining your bullshited up story into something even cooler.

Lieutenant. Get the firing squad.

Considering a god was made out of one of their orgies they probably shit out lube in response to being raped so that they can further enjoy their shame.

I thought everyone hated Matt Ward?

>not enjoying the glorious campaigns that both DoW and DoW 2 have to offer
>not enjoying the DC banter
>not enjoying SS METAL BAWKSES and lung cancer
>not enjoying STEEL RAYIN
WE LOST BECAUSE YOU WERE A WEAK.

Anyone else mad as fuck at how the portrayed mandrakes on SS?

What's the point of having las-pistols, they need to chew everything up.

Maybe a sturdier mount.

I actually hate them so much, I use them as little as I need to. I also don't like the lack of trueborn, wracks, grotesques, and venoms. I would have liked to have more than just incubi in my retinue, too.

Well I heard when the game was released there weren't some of the units you mentioned, but jesus both mandrakes and haemonculi look like meth addicts rather than warriors and mad scientists.

I just particularly hate the fact that the SS dialogue were nearly nonexistent

Damn jesus calm down why you so mad jesus calm down

I hope you guys realize that the updated DE Codex was released a few years after SS.

>tfw there will be never another campaign similar to the ones on DC and SS
>tfw Deldars will never be in another game
For some weird reason I found the campaigns on DC and SS so cozy and comfy. Also modding the game was incredibly fun, the only thing that made me mad was how hard it is to change the army colors on the campaigns.

If DoW 3 can have all the factions from Soulstorm plus Mechanicus, Inquisition, Chaos Demons, and Tyranids then I don't care how bad the gameplay is, I'll play the every living fuck out of it.

You'll lay down your life for the greater good, wouldn't you, Cred Forums?

I wouldn't mind a revamped DE faction. The new Incubus look cool as shit.

But if Dark Eldars are involved, I'd want some sort of RPG set in Commorragh with you deciding how you choose a profession.

No. Go get outsmarted by more Orks you pathetic, vagina nosed freak.

Do you have an Armageddon version of this with Ghazghkull?
>Yarrick aint my commissar

squad based game

I think peopel hate Khorne bevause he's so fucking overused. And that typical "ebil blood, spikes, horns, red coloring and le devil demons" is used to attract normies. He's so fucking overused that Khornate sorcerers are a thing. Emperor forbid they decide to make Slaneesh thrvmain focused god because normies would be shocked to find out women and trannies are vile raping, murdering penetration addicted whores.

yes

No

This is infuriating

ofcourse not heretical at all. They're just giving her back her chestplate. Why that kind cadet is offering his belt as a way for her to keep the chest piece on.

They're truly the gentlemen of the imperium.

I loved the Soulstorm Strongholds
Dark Crusade strongholds were too easy to just blow through, only a few felt like true pitched battles, Chaos in particular was pathetic.

What if you had an "Emperor protects" bar or something.
Like, you die in one shot but you dodge anything else until your EP depletes. Like a shield that regenerates but with a lore reason.

you need those flying knifeboard dork eldars in there, desu you just need a ton of melee to break their formation. Sisters of Battle have really strong anti-infantry capabilities, but their anti-vehicle and long range options are next to none. Those are two things you can easily abuse.

Why aren't you using the soulstorm ability on them?

Yeah, that wave died, but I threw in that same wave, but with two talos engines, and it worked. I also used the crucible of malediction to take some pressure off me.

Because I didn't have much pain.

>see 10 of those walking towards your base
wat to do?

Well, I'm playing the Eldar.

So I put my base in the webway, then I start building another base in the corner of the map, and I hope you get bored/pissed enough to leave.

Finally a DoW thread. I see it one of the less talked games on Cred Forums.

Seriously why have I not played this fucking game before.
>mfw using Dreadnaught for the first time

If that's not enough I just installed Ultimate Apocalypse mod & I'm overwhelmed by the quality & shit they added in. Here I thought Supcom+mods was the most fun & best shit in all rts.

What happens if your stronghold is attacked on either DC or SS?

You fight a skrimish map on that map. Its shit

Dark Eldar on the tabletop also have no sustainability.
If you don't kill most of your opponent's army within the first 2 or 3 turns as DEldar you might as well just gg.
The term I've heard used to describe them is as a glass hammer.

So actually SS got them right for the most part.

Well that's really disappointing.

What does UA add?

>It makes no sense

as it should be

More units, hero mechanics, better textures, that's just the gist of it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. And it does make sense to bring shields and swords to tank warfare if those shields can block cannon shots and those swords can cut through tank armor like a hot knife through butter.

>Dismantle base and build it on the other side of the planet.
>Bombard with Basilisk's while clogging the portals with the bodies of loyal guardsmen.
>By the time they reach the newly built base in approx 4-5 years time there should only be 3 or 4 of them left and re-enforcement's should have arrived.
>Re-build base back on the original position of the planet and repeat the cycle once more

>I do like Matt Ward's fluff

>even mentioning the unspeakable one
Someone post some Inquisition, because this is some heresy.

Should point out that some of the Mechanicus do in fact work with AI's, they just don't mention it to the inquisition.

Also low level computers are allowed and are actually quite common in the Imperium. Its only when they reach the sentience threshold is where they start becoming Heretek.

Also the Tau do use AI and robots.

>skip destroying dormant monoliths in necron stronghold
>get to the end and arm the bomb
>around 3 to 5 wake up
At least the tunnels made escape easy

That is actually what mandrakes were like back then...

>I only liked it because it made people mad

I'd really purge you if I could.

Fuck you man
I even installed soul storm, been itching to play it but fuck I got work to do
Shit man come on

>use Eldar
>take out 90% of the enemy with a single veteran Ranger squad

You people know nothing. Dark Eldar aren't bullshit Tau/Eldar tier but they are far, far, far away from SoB/Cron tier.
Their main issue, very much like Orks, is that they suffer in MUs with Tau, Eldar, and arguably IG. The races considered to be at the top, what a surprise? However, like Orks, they have good MUs against the other races which leave them in a comfortable mid-tier position. I'd argue Orks are a little better off, if only because Fire Warriors aren't an immediate loss for them.
They're a hell of a lot more involved than some of the other armies and their tech progression being two separate armories is kind of a huge drag but they are nowhere near as irrelevant as the bottom tier of the game. If I were to do anything to improve them I'd maybe have Talos come out just a little bit sooner in tech. Tier 2 instead of tier 2.5. Might be a little too powerful, though. Talos are terrifying.

youtube.com/watch?v=ClfhBZR9-As

Why are you doubting our spiritual liege? You're the heretic. You probably wished deep down your army had a Wardex, but you decided to be mad at him instead.

All he did was make fun armies with loads of customization options.

What Cred Forums thinks about howling banshees?

Target practice for gauss flayers

>Khornate sorcerers
>Crull using sorcerers to convert Guardsmen to sacrifice themselves

I had a seizure.

>eldar
>warp bonesingers in
>build webway gate
>plant bomb
>leave

Built for anal.

So who was the Traitor for you?

I regret not taking Cyrus more, him being the Traitor fucked up my lategame

You need sorcery to get demons to enter the materium, they don't just stroll out of the warp

>train for decades and hone your skill with a power sword to a razor edge
>reflexes faster than any human's and speed to match
>among the finest close quarters ground infantry the Eldar have to offer
>get caught by a hobbled together, lumbering, and barely awake adamantine tomb, then crushed and thrown into a boulder
lmao

Good riddance

WE WUZ

LIBRARIANS N SHIEEET

Avitus, like the canon bastard traitor he is. He isn't too useful compared to everyone else too, so it wasn't any skin off my back.

Jesus Christ, those nigger lips. He's like a walking caricature. What were they thinking?

He's from duh hive, cracka. An' he's gunna whip up some tight epistolary shit.

God bless.

Why the fuck would a dying race sent people into melee combat against demonic entities, tanks, burly orkz, and ferocious alien monsters?

Because this is Warhammer, bitch. Get metal or get the fuck out.

Well, I prefer Necrons. And Necrons have stomped on the retarded Eldar time and time again.

It keeps happening.

Those two are actually working on their ice-skating routine.

I'm actually wondering how this even happens, with all of their speed and prescience taken into account. Did he think it was a good idea to charge a dreadnought with a sword or something?

I think Dreadnoughts can swivel 360 degrees. So he could've tried sneaking up on him.

If you're going to bitch about posting quotes, you'd be better off in one of these threads.

That fucking 360 degree spin attack dreadnoughts did in DoW was so silly, but I still missed it in DoW 2.

>He doesn't know about the thin line of taking 40k seriously despite its self-irony

Stupid sexy banshee ass.

Will it be good?

I really hope.

mostly for the E.Y.E. 2 that will come after it

If Streum On is allowed to pursue their vision and decide the fate of the game it will be fantastic. I honestly wouldn't trust any other studio as much as them with the license. They're really passionate about it.

Probably

He's clearly a member of the Salamanders

You don't talk shit about Jonah "I played mindfuck with the hivemind" Orion bitch.

>nude SoB hung on meat hooks and bled out

muh dick for the blood god

That guy ain't near black enough.

Yeah Davian Cool with a Melta or assault gun made him irrelevant in terms of blob removal. And Cyrus surpasses him in taking down armor.

He does make the Ulkair fight a bit less tedious.

I wish chaos wasn't such shit for being a turtling bitch

their my favorite faction but they are made for being an absolute asshole with cultist more than anything

I fucking loved that trailer, especially that part, that dread just out of nowhere going "boom bitch get fucking rekt" game me a massive boner.

WE WUZ SPESS MEHREENS

Who /AdMech/ here?

You guys are ok I guess

I like xenos

...

Which ones?
Keep in mind there is a correct answer here.

This, humies are a bunch of zoggin gits

idk I know fuck all about warhammer I just like to jack off to xeno porn

Why are eldars the biggest jobbers?

It's the tradeoff.
The better their codex is, the worse off they are in the fluff.

...

Weren't Deldar just space pirates at one point?
When did they flip to full out /d/?

Slaanesh worshipers are /d/, Deldars are a combination of pirates with metal rock.

They've always had the BDSM/hardcore torture and murder angle to them. It's just the new models and artwork is a bit more explicit about it.

Eldar take arrogance to the extreme

>I will carve this lumbering behemoth apart with my sword that has been crafted by our finest Bonesingers. My superior speed and agility means I will prevail.
>Oh no

They had always had it but it felt more subdued, like "don't get captured by these pirates cause then it's worse than getting killed" rather than "I LOVE PIERCING MY DICK ON THE BATTLEFIELD"

Holy fuck, what is that giant thing?

It's called a Talos.

That'd be a Talos Pain Engine
The size on that one is a bit larger than they usually are though.

Settle down there with all that heresy user.

I believe the correct term is Engine of Pain, talos is a specific variation of a EoP

>talos is a specific variation of a EoP

And that's what it is in the pic. A Talos.

There aren't enough of these.

...

Right?

How did the one in get so big? Did which ever Deldar coven in that artwork run out of living slave to torture, decide to just make/clone one on their own, overdoing it and end up with their version of Evangelion?

>draws his sword and points as he gives the order to fire

You know he doesn't need to, he just really wants to.

Tau are so fucking aesthetic

Nerd

Haemonculi never stop experimenting on their pets. If one were to live long enough I'd imagine a significantly larger size would be easy enough to reach.

Shit, I was gonna post this one.

Tau firing lines are GOAT, they are so good that people fucking hate them for it

The way the Tau circumvent shooting rules is what's annoying. You have to be an army like Necrons to endure their shooting. Or be mobile like Eldar.

Weird, those are the top-tier armies.

Really makes you think, doesn't it?

>be SM
>fighting Tau
>getting raped in range
>just charge them with my tac marines
>watch as my marines manage to charge up to their lines and start to tear shit up in melee

I don't care how ineffective and bad of a strategy it is, the sight alone is cool enough for me

alternatively

>be Tau
>fighting IG
>watch as a single squad of fire warriors is able to hold the flank against a force of like 4/5 squads of guardsmen

This game is so awesome, man

tfw the necron lord dies in your base and isnt really a threat so you have a couple turrets dedicated to killing him when he gets back up

I was reading the wikis and I started wondering how are the chaos forces even considered a threat with Failbaddon the Armless being their "warmaster" and no chaos chapter ever winning anything?

Also any cool renegade chapter I should read about?

im late as fuck, but use ultimate apocalypse for skirmish, and titanium wars for campaign. titanium wars works great with the campaign and really ups the difficulty, for both dark crusade and soulstorm.

here comes the rape machine

There is at our honor, as Blood Ravens, as space marines, and so foolish.
We are the emperor!
If we fight in glory.
We will descend upon the name of our headquarters.
We will descend upon the emperor's fury There is at our door.
We have placed numerous beacons, allowing for our honor, as Blood Ravens, as Blood Ravens, as Blood Ravens, as space marines,
and devastating defensive deep strike!
Our perimeter has been prepared in the event that our enemies should be lost!
Battle brothers; space prepared to deep strike!
Our perimeter has been prepared in the emperor!
If we fight in space, prepared to deep strikes.
The Codex Astartes names this maneuver steel rain.
We fight for multiple simultaneous and we fight for our door.
We are the emperor!
If we will overwhelm them, we shall not die.
No, We fight for our honor, as space marines, and we fight for our battle brothers are stationed in the name of the emperor!