You know... this expansion wasn't so bad after all

You know... this expansion wasn't so bad after all.

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>Implying
Even if it had had a healthy amount of high-quality content, it wouldn't matter because neo-WoW is bad by default, having lost everything MMO and RPG about it.

The problem with Legion isn't that it's worse than WoD.
The problem is that it's WoD2.0

Should I get back into WoW or some other MMORPG (GW2)?

I want to fuck that orc.

play vanilla

shut the fuck up

have a (you) because it took a while for these stupid threads to pop up you fucking falseflagging retard fuck you

Heh, and people say girls don't play WoW.

What's your battle.net ID?

At least it had Yrel to redeem itself.

Remember when we though the pruning couldn't get any worse? Remember when 5 button rotations was a meme? Now it's 3 button rotations.
Now we don't even get unique leveling weapons or raid weapons. We just get to choose one of 3-4 skins.

>grind the same daily quests for next half a year: the expansion
and people felt for it

Any populated private server without P2W bullshit?

legion has been surpricingly fun desu, writing is beautiful and the quests feel like they actually have character, first expansion i've actually felt like reading what the NPCs say when i'm questing n stuff
I hit 110 just some hours ago, but leveling was pretty comfy

hunter class order hall is max comfy

>girls don't play WoW

WoW is the most hardcore game casuals play

Ever pornstars and couples with kids play this shit

Is there a more bland character than Yrel?

Wod was good, get over it.
Garrisons were great, get over it.
Time travel is great, get over it.
Orcs are great, get over it.
Apex is great, get over it.

Legion really is the perfect game for casual gamers.
Soccer moms have a mobile game to play and young elementary school kids cant comprehend how empty and cynical the world is so they'll love all the adventures they have in the game.
Can't really see anyone else playing Legion though.

>3 button rotation

Are you that bad at the game or are you just regurgitating the shit you hear on Cred Forums?

>guildmaster has a wife
>she's the officer
Sounds bad, but it was actually the friendliest, most helpful guild i've been in.

that sounds nice and what I'm looking for, thanks

Huln Highmountain? His descendant?

>You know... this expansion wasn't so bad after Legion.
fix

>Writing is beautiful
And this is when you know user is full of shit. The writing was so god awful that I refunded Legion two days in.

They denied my refund, I'm stuck with this turd now.
At least I can be sure I'll never pay a sub fee that'll fund future """""""""content""""""""".

>you will never be this cynical and fanny flustered over other people having fun in a video game you don't like.


I bet you have a Pepe folder you fucking faggot.

Gw2 is pretty good imo. Got back into it again a couple weeks ago and it's destroying my life. It's amazing how much shit has improved, especially the living story.
I enjoyed the game at release though so take that as you will.

tbqh tho if you were dissatisfied with the writing even when it was clearly a lot more developed than in any other expansions, then i dont know what kinda fucking expectations you have for a dying mmo, go read a book or something if you're that picky baka

i played it at launch too but stopped playing due to external reasons, i heard it became f2p and pay-to-win, is this still the case?

lmao

rofl

No

>writing
>quests
That's why I'm still skeptic af, everyone and their moms praise Legion for questing and how there's so much to do IN FIRST FUCKING WEEKS of expansion like there was any problems with this shit in WoD/MoP/Cata. Yeah, yeah, they already announced 7.1.

I guess you could call it pay to win in the sense that you'll be a lot weaker than other players if you dont have the expansion since the elite specs are so strong, but otherwise no.

Isn't it just a grindfest so you have to be neckbeard NEET if you want to progressio raid?

>high ranked officer's gf

ITS DONE
ITS SO FUCKING DONE

>neo-WoW

it might aswell be farmville v2

how things have changed since 2007 warcraft

>spend maybe a minute or two sending champs off on missions several hours long while you go out and get other shit done


Oh yeah, sure is mobile game tier, you salty fucking faggot.

>I enjoyed the game at release though so take that as you will.
Meh, that probably means I won't enjoy it then. I'm more of a FFXIV person. It honestly held my attention for longer than Legion but I still didn't enjoy it all that much. I guess I just need a more structured class systems, though some of the outspoken devs being abhorrent people might have swayed we away from it a little bit.

Maybe I'm burned over having purchased something with no content? Did you ever consider that? Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they're be irrational.

Even if 7.1 is just the new kara dungeon then it's better than 6.1's "selfie-cam is content, right"?
I agree that it's hard to judge Legion properly until all the content is out, and we certainly can't do it before even the first raid tier, but so far it's been good

Yeah instead of timegating all the content it just had no content.

>while you go out and get other shit done
Your post was almost correct. If there was "other shit" to get done you'd have a point.

I heard blizzard cut off a lot of garrison shit, but its still there.

Doesn't help with the nontalking community and queue simulation with dead landscapes.
Its like single player experience where the auction house is my only reminder that it actually has players in it.

I often feel sorry for this game, because it had so much more potential, and its world was actually interesting. At least for me.

Say what you want about WoD but the zones were pretty nice, it was fun until you ran out of stuff to do and the raids were good.

there's a lot of chatter on illidan in LFG chat. Most people just talk on teamspeak, discord, mumble or whatever else.

This entire thread must be purged.

Jesus, what dead server are you on?

Yes it was. Fuck off.

It was Blizzard experimenting with how little money they could put into a product and still turn a profit.
It was so fucking rushed and they were so far behind schedule with its development in the single year they had to work on it that the cinematics team DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE EXPANSION WAS EVEN ABOUT BECAUSE NOTHING HAD BEEN MADE YET.


Planned features were continuously scaled back each time the developers were asked about it. First, Karabor and that ogre castle were going to be the cities. Then, they became important quest areas that "players would not just visit once and then never again." Ultimately they both ended up as short lived questing areas where exactly that happened.
An entire zone was scrapped.
Another zone was unfinished for over a year after release until it was finally repurposed into a daily zone.
The centerpiece of the expansion, the Garrison, was to be a highly customizable base of operations that you could place in any zone you wanted. Blizzard's way of caving to player housing. Ultimately it became a daily quest-style area that was only available in one zone.
New models were not finished by launch, with Blood Elves pushed back to 6.1 and Cata models written off as "no plans."

It has the least content of any version of the game. It is the ONLY era of the game to have less than three raid tiers.

It was trash, and rightfully saw a historically large drop in players.

Fuck off OP.

lmao no

it was pure fucking trash. don't start this

>It is the ONLY era of the game to have less than three raid tiers.
You won't be able to say that for long. Legion is already looking to have the least reading content of any expansion.

This is one of my favorite memes, when the new game comes out people suddenly pretend to like the abhorred, previous game.

Dark Souls 2 would be the gleaming shit at the top of that meme heap though

>Legion is already looking to have the least reading content of any expansion.
>Reading
I'm sure you meant to say raiding but you're not entirely wrong. Legion has the lowest amount of leveling quests on any expansion, less than WoD even and WoD had almost half as many as MoP.

no amount of polishing can make look WoD good.
It was just so fucking bad, its impossible to make it look good.
The numbers don't lie.

>leveling quests
As in quests for levelling from 100-110? Blizz has put a much lower focus on levelling this time around, and since everything scales you can't really say things are levelling quests when the focus is on rep

>I fell for the legion meme
>get to 110
>world quests
>mfw

So what the fuck were the apexis anyway? Why aren't any of the orcs concerned about time travel shit?

What a retarded expansion.

youtube.com/watch?v=soRoNX-skLk

i physically cannot listen to this

>oceanic player
>want to RP
>but I still want to raid in a guild
>no oceanic RP servers

Since Frostmourne is mainly Alliance, what's the best PvE oceanic server? Thinking of making a Blood DK for some light raiding, probably only heroic. Plus the Horde PvP gear for DKs looks amazing in Legion. Never played on an oceanic server before since I was dicking around MG and WrA.

Barthilas or Jubeithos-Gundrak

>Legion is about 3 weeks post release
>shill threads on Cred Forums grind to a halt
>suddenly everyone hates WoW again

Either there's massive amounts of blizzadrones on this board or there's actively paid shilling going on by blizzard every time these expansions get close to release

>What were the apexis anyway?
A reference to TBC, like everything else in that shit expansion.

The story was fucking garbage and was just an excuse to get Gul'dan back while pandering to TBC fags.

>200 world quests achievement pops up
>Realize that I have been mindlessly doing these to build resources and to use them as a lottery ticket for legendaries
Blizzard knows what they are doing. The people with two legendaries are some very lucky/hated people.

>or there's actively paid shilling going on by blizzard every time these expansions get close to release
Well it does happen with almost every Blizzard game. There were HotS threads close to its release calling it the DotA killer for fucks sake.

>less than three raid tiers
what the fuck are you talking about
>HM tier 1
>BRF tier 2
>HFC tier 3

I haven't played Legion yet, is it safe to say the people on here saying Class Halls were nothing like Garrisons were wrong?

you still send followers off on missions and shit, i think you only get like 6 follows tho, but it's not like farmville anymore [spoilers]to some extent[/spoilers]

There's definitely marketing going on, no doubt about it. There were 20+ Overwatch threads in the catalogue 24/7 for weeks and the mods didn't even attempt to usher them to /vg/ or keep the thread count down which is suspicious as fuck.

I remember buying the piece of shit, taking one look at garrisons, and instantly closed my subscription until legion came out. Fuck that. .

as a person that hated my garrison, i actually really enjoy the simplicity and "straight to the point" mechanics of the Class Order Halls.

You like send followers on a mission and uh that's it.

>but it's not like farmville anymore
It's actually kind of funny because the customization of Garrisons is the only thing they actually removed. It's still a mobile game, it just has none of the features that make a mobile game feel like it's worth playing.
If you want to see a garrison system done right look at what FFXIV is doing with the upcoming patch. It's letting you recruit random people, you get randomly generated people to show up through out the week, the more things in the challenge log you do the more people will show up, you can only have 4 in your party though though, you have to dismiss one person if you want to hire another, so it's all about getting the right sub stats mixed with the cosmetics you want. Cosmetics do matter because you can equip each of your followers with real gear and even take them out into the world with you as companions and do dungeons with them to speed up thier leveling.

that actually sounds pretty nice in concept but knowing the game it's just going to fuck it up somehow and make it stale as ever.

Its so bad non of the WoW youtubers like it.

Blizzard stated that HM and BRF were the same tier.
Which is bullshit. BRF was supposed to be there AT LAUNCH.

It's a real shame that nothing like that will ever be added to WoW, would be too complicated to work into the mobile game.

>fighting 110 elite
>pet is on 10% health
>cast mend pet
>dodge
>+40 000
>dodge
>+40 000
>dodge
>+40 900
>elite dies, pet never going under 10%
what the fuck

>sink 80+ hours a week into legion since release
>every mythic every week
>help with mythics if raid group can't find a tank or heals
>140+ heroics, mostly leading speed runs for guildies who want to farm ap/bloods
>all AP WQ's ever, have the highest ap weapon in my guild
>max professions out, help people with bracer quest and oblit for cheap
>no legendary yet
>find out today that raid leader is sidelining me for a shitter do-nothing nobody new recruit who just happened to get the BiS legendary for our class, and that 'progression comes first, sorry man'.


Now I understand why murder happens. I am seething. My fucking blood is boiling.

I thought the term 'seeing red' was just a figure of speech, but now I know it is not. I put my life on hold for these faggots, and now they are dropping me for a fucking nobody who had good RNG.

Holy shit.

Just leave the guild.
They don't deserve your dedication.

Let's not fucking pretend here, basically everything post TBC was getting shit.

things that never happened.txt

Obviously there was fuck all for pve content, but the zones were way better than legion ones.

>being so shit you don't have several other guilds courting you for their core
your own fault

No its exactly like garrisons but you have maybe 1/10 of things to do there, and you can do them from your phone.

there is a mobile app which encourages you to not even actually play the game

wew blizzard went absolute madman.

>Posting this for like the fifth time.
>Most likely lying just to get you's and shitpost.

Why though?

Live vicariously through them, it's your duty as a guildy.

Or you can stop playing a game that has a loot system based on RNG, holy shit

It was fucking horrible.

>Ask some people what I should boost a mage or a rogue
>They unanimously decide mage
>I boost my mage
>It's fucking boring as shit
>Really wish I boosted my rogue but I'm too lazy to level it

Should I get Legion or Overwatch?

>A shit load of people talking about one of the most popular newly released games is suspicious
Fuck off. I'm sick of this shitty shill meme.

This happens with every major release because, oh holy shit, this is a video game board, where people talk about video games. Imagine that.

Jaina
Mekkatorque
Anduin
Tyrande
basically every Alliance character that isn't Greymane

Because even though Cred Forums is le anti gamer culture all you faggots do is practice hype culture, that's why the meme Cred Forums doesn't play games exists. because you faggots hype shit up and spam threads 24/7 and then the second it releases you get bored and hype up the next game.

neither

>Is there a more fappable character than Yrel?

fixd

>level my warlock because I've always loved warlock
>surprising no one, its trash tier thanks blizzard
>stare at all my other 100 alts
>hmm I've never mained rogue and outlaw seems fun, lets give it a go
>level to 110
>mfw literally rape any mob
>mfw rolling the bones and chaining Mark for Death is fun
>mfw blade flurry
>mfw dirty tricks so free gouges blinds cheap shots
>mfw Curse of the Dreadblades burst with Adrenaline Rush
>mfw its fucking amazing to play and fun

they nailed rogue. benched my warlock forever for this new god main.

>guild is all chill
>they have no rogues
>they saw I went rogue and my top 200k+ dps every dungeon
>guaranteed spot
>mfw

fuck you reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

my mains a holy paladin and I just wanted to try a fun DPS out

>need tank 830+ ilvl
>apply with 829
>accepted

honestly im surprised i can get into any groups on my demon hunter

>840 heroics
>Got a bunch of lucky drops so just hit 840
>Apply as holy paladin
>Invited
>"oh sry, didnt see u were a paladin"
>kicked

???????????

But holy paladin can deal some serious damage.

it's not that fun dpsing as them tho, usually i just chuck out a few holy shock crits and prism crits and spike up to the top

Vanilla is only fun for about a week, then the nostalgia wears of and you realise how horribly unbalanced and bare bones the game is.

I remember playing vanilla and it was frankly annoying to play.
Here's an example of your average day playing vanilla when it released.

>Get home from school
>Have to form a group of 15 people for UBRS
>Takes 1 hour to form the group, have to personally whisper people using /who if they want to join.
>Finally get a group going, head to the dungeon
>Tank has to leave
>Have to start using /who and whispering tanks again
>Another tank finally joins and arrives at the dungeon
>Dps says its getting late because the group took to long to form and leaves.
>You end up in this infinite loop of people leaving and joining
>Finally get the dungeon going
2 things ended happening
>It's gotten too late for you and now you have to leave
>You wipe on a boss halfway through and people quit and the group disbands
>The 5% chance the group actually worked
>You've just wasted hours of your life and accomplished nothing besides getting frustrated.

Man Vanilla sure was fun!

>Lying about 2nd best healer ever getting denied.

If Warlords taught me anything its that Orcs are completely braindead

What kind of men in their right mind would bother going to any other planets when you have Draenei women ripe for the interracial pounding

Overwatch.
You will get more out of it.
Legion has the potential to become just as bad as WOD, and the story at this point is just rehashing almost everything in an attempt to get people to resub.
Another group of former highborn elves turned junkies is gonna use a magic well to summon demons.
The Stormrage novel is rehashed as a raid (because blizz didn't bother to do it in Cata, when it already fucking happened).
It's another attempt to get BC fanboys to resub.
They're also setting up an expansion for Wrath fanboys. Sylvanas and Bolvar are gonna get it.
Facebook grind is still there.
Daily rep grind is back.
Blizz fucked up the numbers and people who get 1 legendary have an increased chance to get multiple. So raiding spots will be harder to find than ever.
DPS already surpassing end of MOP numbers (that number squish sure was useful, eh blizz?)

idk I have a feeling he meant to invite someone else before me. His english was broken as fuck

>Referencing past events
>Progressing a story is now considered getting fanboys to resub

you didn't even say the things that were clearly attempts to get fanboys back like demon hunters and dalaran, you just dished out random shit

What kind of content is missing that other expansions had? Or is it that you wanted to see something new?

the number squish was because garrosh could hit a hp rollover and be unkillable

iirc they fixed that so it doesnt matter how high shit gets now

Nice music, but you could say that about all the xpacs
It let me get the orgrimmar grunt set and that's all I wanted really
Grimrail depot was fun
Fuck garrisons

Vanilla was good because it was new, it had tons of faults, but imo it was still better than what we have now.
I think Wotlk could have been the best time, If it didn't contained all that retarded shit and LFG encouragement.
While TBC was good imo it was just, uninteresting and couldn't really grab me with itself, it missed the spirit what really keeps me pumped up, and Wotlk looked like where I said: "holy shit this looks amazing, this will be the game I can get hooked on."

The theme was set in fucking stone and the zones were amazing, the music was superb, the lore seemed good, wintergrasp could have been the biggest shit going on for me since I loved BGs, and Goddamnit they had to fuck it up. I was so damn disappointed.

And lets not start with the argent tournament.
Holy fuck who the hell thought that was actually good?

The torny came out around the same time Activision bought out Blizzard

oh man I wish there was a way to find out how each class plays at high level before boosting one
oh wait

>Just failed a 99% mission that gave a mission for a mount.

THANKS.

HAHAHA

My guild is constantly talking, finding a decent guild is the solution to most of that. Game feels completely dead otherwise (because aside from large, active guilds, it is dead)

I enjoyed the writing more than any previous expansion. Val'sharah and Azsuna quests were really fucking interesting. Stormheim was pretty dull. Haven't bothered with Highmountain because the Tauren spiritualism story is not my bag

Explain how it's WoD 2.0 without mentioning class order hall shit.

Why would you continue to be part of such a poorly run guild? Not like there's a shortage of raiding guilds who would love a dedicated player such as yourself my dude

Disagree, Suramar is as visually stunning as any zone or instance produced during BC, and I really love my BC instances/zones.

WoD good things:

1. Questing
2. Treasures
3. Flexible Raid Sizes
4. Socketed/Warforged Gear
5. Garrisons (at least while you were still building it)
6. Personal loot
7. Premade group finder.

WoD shitty things:

1. No flying until it didn't matter
2. LFR was completely pointless and ruined casual alts
3. Only two tiers of raiding
4. Assram
5. Stormshield/Warspear
6. Pointless factions
7. HFC lasted like 10 years
8. Fixed mythic raiding to 20 players. Killed 10m guilds.

Yeah you're right. How could it be WoD 2.0 if it has even less raids than WoD?

top kek

Someone explain to me why WoW expansions are priced the same as vanilla was but have 1/6th the content?

t. Person on a dead server with 80 to 20 faction ration as the 20%

On rails questing, filling that fuckin' bar shit. More time gated garrison bullshit.

From the same developers that brought you wod, we get legion. Omg how come Legion is wod2.0 guaranteed? Well, what else did you expect?

Why does Shaman have 2 mana bars now? Come to think of it, why do almost all classes have 2 resources?

Expalin how it is like wod without mentioning the precise shit that makes it like wod.

Are you fucking clinically retarded?

this is what you get for playing with tryhard faggots. what class are you?

Because people will buy the box no matter how much it costs.

Addicts.

This is why.

>tfw on a high pop server
>people are antisocial and never talk
>only talking is done by the same retards circlejerking in the tradechat
>Say "hi" in a dungeon
>Nothing is said back
WoW is probably the least social "MMO" I have ever played and I do consider it a singleplayer game at this point. I do like legion, but I have started to see other players as AI because nobody fucking talks or wants to help out others.

Yeah, I sure loved Orcs of Orccraft: Orclords of Orcnor.

>The Emerald Nightmare
>The Trial of Valor
>The Nighthold
>Tomb of Sargeras

?

Genuinely dedicated players are a scarce commodity. Just fucking market yourself to other guilds. Show them your playtime and achievements and tell them you're willing to join them if they fund the realm/faction transfer.

>>The Trial of Valor

Hmmm

What does that name remind me of

I AM VALOR JAR

It certainly wasn't the Dota killer. Valve themselves killed it for all but the most braindead Peruvian fans.

>the argent tournament.
Precisely the moment I dropped WoW, only to come back 2 months for WoD.

If I have to point out the nice things about WoD, it would be the premise and the start, with the introduction of the differents Orcs chiefs. Sure the time travel is silly as fuck but who wouldn't want to see Draenor in its past glory? It's a guilty pleasure that you accepted if you bought the game.
Also even if they were few, they nailed right the dungeons ambiance, the sweet feeling you get once you finish the grimrail Depot is unique.
Also not flying mounts.

Well for the rest, it's a steamy pile of shit.

I liked the tournament

lmao what server my dude, stormrage?

this sounds like the guild i just /gquit

Well, I'm enjoying playing it.

>BOE EPIC trinkets drops for me of trash mob
>Auto equip it without thinking.
>it has intellect on it, am a hunter
>100k gold gone just like that.