>pretty much every fallout, children are invincible Only in bethesda fallout.
In the 1 and 2 you could kill kids and you got a reputation as a child killer which meant you were hated by pretty much everyone.
Mason Anderson
you can kill children in fallout 1 and 2 you underage
Brayden Sanders
Bethesda games have mods to make children killable
Mason Adams
>killing CHILDREN Oh my god, seriously? You need medical help!
Jackson Howard
>reading comprehension
Cooper Watson
All the listed problems can be remedied by very simple mods unless you are a peasant.
Then you have no one but yourself to blame.
Jaxon Richardson
>reading comprehension
Asher Scott
40% of Fallout games have killable children.
Angel Young
You can always just reinstall deus ex and throw that kid into the sea.
No witnesses.
Christian Jones
>killing children start with yourself, kiddo
Sebastian Brown
Is the fact you can't murder children really the biggest source of immersion breaking for you in these games? Just play on PC if you want to be an edgelord, there's waaaaaay more options
Mason Clark
Good one
Noah Jackson
if the lack of child murdering breaks your immersion you really should lock yourself in a camping van and have it buried underground
David Ramirez
>le moralfags ruining my gaming
Look out guys Clint Eastwood is posting again
Ian Thomas
What a disgusting human being you are! How can you kill an innocent child? I refuse to share a board with someone like you...
Ryder Murphy
There is one
MISTAH JAY CEE DEHNTAWN IN DA FWESH
Andrew Clark
You know what's not good? You not being able to even understand what you write up. You should get that checked out along with your child murdering fantasies.
Nathaniel Martinez
the thing is, once you see it you cannot unsee it, it's somewhat unrealistic
Caleb Cruz
>muh immersion
Cameron Williams
I play Skyrim only with the "Killable Children" Mod.
Mason Jenkins
>Makes a thread literally complaining about not being able to kill children.
What the fuck is wrong with you? It has NOTHING to do with breaking your immersion and you know it you fucking freak.
Adam Davis
Immersion is a marketing meme and you fell for it.
Christian Rodriguez
>i don't know what immersion means
Carter Perry
moralfag spotted
Easton Campbell
until a very short time it was also taboo to have domestic animals and even elders among "open-world"/games were you could kill discriminately
Thomas Cooper
He even defends it.
Jaxson Edwards
>wanting to kill children ugh...
Caleb Lopez
Who is he and what is he defending?
Brody Price
HE
Andrew Allen
Because video games are a hobby not a way to replace the shitty reality that OP lives in.
Isaac Perry
>mentally intact human bean >hurr durr moralfag lol
Adam Rodriguez
thread reported to the FBI
Anthony Jones
I'm not even OP. You just can't read.
Samuel Davis
You can kill and even rape children in skyrim using mods user
Joseph Scott
>killing fictional characters is serious business
David Gomez
>killing INNOCENT PEDESTRIANS Oh my god, seriously? You need medical help!
Andrew Cox
Sure thing illiterate.
Xavier Kelly
Murdering every single Mother fucker on screen for 7 hours straight, OMG you need help!
Jaxon Long
Yeah na. How about you tell us WHY you feel the burning desire to kill children in a video game? And no, your level of immersion is not a valid reason.
Chase Evans
they do it so they can sell the games in germany. you can't sell any entertainment portraying the death of a minor in germany.
Jaxson Lopez
It's a fictional character in a videogame you anti-pragmatic idiot.
Luke Bailey
For what possible reason do you have to kill children?
Jeremiah Davis
for what possible reason do you not want to kill children?
Jayden Green
>A stray rocket hits an adult settler. He is blown apart and dies horribly.
>A stray rocket hits a child settler. The rocket harmlessly phases right through the child's face and impacts the ground behind him, also setting off several landmines and destroying a standing fuel tank. Several settlers that were standing near it all die. The child stands in the middle of the flaming wreck and the viscera of the dead settlers and is completely unharmed and unmarred by the explosion.
Zachary Richardson
I WILL TELL THEM YOU ARE A SPY AND THEY WILL KILL YOU fuck you louis pan you little shit
Luke Nguyen
Because there's really no reason to? What do you accomplish by doing so? What could a child possibly do to warrant his/her own death?
Hunter Adams
They're easier to kill than adults.
Bentley Williams
Joke's on the kid, he's an orphan now and he's going to starve to death, or get eaten by deathclaws or raped. I bet he wishes he had died with his family.
Carter Lewis
>dont make children killable >make an entire fucking town out of children
Fallout 3 doesnt get ENOUGH hate.
Robert Rogers
its a fucking vidya theres no reason to do anything at all . you buy games to idle at the menu?
Zachary Evans
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Ethan Watson
Yeah because GTA and Fallout are 12+/Teen/etc.
Wait...
Luis Sullivan
The fact that you can't murder children in such videogames hardly breaks the immersion for any mentally sane person.
Brayden Garcia
its a videogame its not real stop posting u fucking turd ur dialogue is making me cringe
Aiden Perry
>deus ex >I will tell them you're a spy and they will kill you >[geps externally] Did anyone ever leave louis pan alive?
Aaron Powell
>> In pretty much every fallout, children are invincible You can kill children in all the good Fallout games (1 and 2)
Thomas Edwards
A child could tell them you are a spy, and they will kill you.
Jackson Robinson
>In the 1 and 2 >Until it hit Europe* Fixed that for you.
Isaiah Cox
Children are faggots and a bit of murder is the best way to straighten them out. I was murdered every day as a boy and it never did me any harm.
Daniel Phillips
Actually it does. When a loaded fuel truck hits a household and completely obliterates it to the foundation, instantly killing its occupants except for little Timmy, that's immersion breaking, It grabs you by the neck and reminds you, 'oh yeah, npcs flagged as kids are totally invincible'. Immersion shattered.
Little Timmy should not be immune to physical harm just because he's a kid. People die, including kids.
Jeremiah Cox
> In pretty much every fallout, children are invincible
Play the original 2, not the faggy Bethesda shootan gayme.
Only in Germany, you stupid fat cunt, and it's the Americunts who demanded unkillable children.
Dylan Hall
>all the actual moralfags ITT It's just a game. You should be able to do what you want.
If I eat a cheeseburger in GTA: SA, it doesn't mean I like eating cheeseburgers in real life.
Henry Foster
Would Steam allow a Gta style game with killable children? If so I will make it ;)
Bentley Barnes
>Only in Germany, you stupid fat cunt, and it's the Americunts who demanded unkillable children. No, it was all European versions, but way to show your ignorance.
Samuel Foster
Feel free to use that argument in court. Also posting a Loli really not helping your argument
Blake Russell
>play Skyrim >little cunt in Whiterun constantly insults me every I run into him >have to just stand there and take it because of child immunity Thank god for mods.
Luis White
Ratings boards in most countries these days will ban the shit out of your game if you can kill kids in it. That's why the game you want will not be made.
Does it make sense? No. Is it really any worse to kill an innocent child than it is to kill an innocent adult? No. Does that matter? No because the underlying morals behind these decisions are emotionally based, not grounded in logic.
Though, if it makes you feel better, there are mods for every modern Bethesda game that allow you to kill the children in that game. So you could always just get that mod if it bothers you so much.
Thomas Cox
It's vidya, tho. Why do you care?
Owen Carter
>tfw you find out you could originally kill kids in Skyrim and they had to take it out because censors are fucking faggots
Ian Rivera
I need more of these.
Mason Hall
The slight increase in immersion by enabling child killing is not worth the potential bans across multiple countries for the gamedevs.
Connor Foster
I think it's dumb that game developers don't want you killing random kids, but don't care about you killing rando NPCs with families and responsibilities they have to care about
point is, you should be able to kill whatever you want in a game since there's not a moral high ground you can hold if you're indiscriminately killing adults instead of kids. You're still killing the same thing, which is a bunch of pixels anyway
Joshua Mitchell
>court The crime is against LITERAL ONES AND ZEROES
Brandon Miller
then why kids can kill adults in some games
Parker King
>Feel free to use that argument in court. Going to court for clicking a mouse to make a fictional character shoot fictional bullets at another fictional character? Sorry, I don't live in North Korea.
Gabriel Foster
Why stop with children? I won't be able to fully engage with a game until I can kick puppies and set kittens on fire. Also I should be able to rape the corpses of the people I kill. It's just realism!
Brody Phillips
What kind of dystopian third world shithole do you live in?
They are ok with murder being rated m but murder children is deplorable to them
Kevin Cruz
Now you're getting it. And now I want to play HellMOO again.
Jace Sanchez
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Tyler Morales
Invincible characters literally made me quit Fallout 4 on my first play through.
Granted, it wasn't the invincible children, it was the Mayor of the main city, whom I took the initiative to investigate by myself in the game until I had collected enough evidence to prove he was working with the bad guys. Then I sniped him from a hidden position using a silenced rifle, it would have been a clean, instant kill and no one would know it was me. Alas, since he was indestructible he survived and then the entire town instantly knew that it was me and exactly where I was using their psychic powers.
My immersion was completely shattered to the point that I just fucking quit the game right then and there. Fucking linear, rail-roady bullshit.
Austin Wright
Couldn't you kill kids in like the second mission of Deus Ex? How come that never caused a shitstorm?
Carson Evans
>Also I should be able to rape the corpses of the people I kill. It's just realism! I can do that in my modded New Vegas. The animations are shit though
Jonathan Sullivan
>unironic moralfags defending pixels
Camden Rodriguez
It's ok when Waifu-fags do it.
Angel Gomez
Because feminist liberals hadn't ruined games at that point.
Christian Hernandez
...
Liam Diaz
Lower quality but still good
Gabriel Sanders
If you were looking for a game that respects player agency, allows creative out of the box solutions to problems, and doesn't railroad you into its story and drags you back onto the Bethesda Adventure Line kicking and screaming if you dare leave it, you shouldn't have even considered playing a Bethesda game of any kind at any time. Literally anything else would have been a better choice.
Adrian Sanchez
>doesn't get the point at all Kill yourself.
Ayden Diaz
I want to be able to tear foetuses out of women and smear them across the asphalt.
Why do you Cred Forumsfags always have to try to twist literally everything to fit your narrow us vs. them dichotomy?
Jeremiah Nguyen
Conservatives are against abortion though.
Jaxon Hernandez
Are uteruses enough for you?
Andrew Price
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Jace Bell
That's literally the point, you idiot.
Evan Howard
Yeah, not to mention all those other countries that don't even have that fucking dichotomy. Fucking americans I swear.
At any rate, child murdering in games was killed back in the 90s by that wave of old people who wanted to bad violent video games. It had nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics, it was a knee-jerk reaction from old people to video games, which were new at the time.
Levi Garcia
I honestly can't imagine there's more than one or two actual moralfags in the thread. If even that, realistically. It's just a bunch of people playing the part for fun.
Sebastian Turner
They are genuinely stupid
Kevin Cox
the same reason to do anything in a video game: because you cannot do it in real life. theres no good reason foe being unable to kill children so it always comes down to asking 'why do you want to'. if you dont want to kill a kid in a video game then so be it but let it be a choice for the person playing the 'open world roleplaying game'
Justin Peterson
I read your post with a lisp. You speak with one don't you?
Julian Garcia
Only if they're occupied.
Cooper Kelly
That's retarded, I don't want to kill people IRL but its fun in GTA
Hunter Sanders
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Chase Sanchez
Completely different genre, but try playing The Guild or its sequel. It will scratch your itch for investigation and NPC assassination.
Andrew Evans
I haven't even posted an argument you triggered faggot.
Nolan Jones
Real talk: Developers likely also just don't want to put it in because they're lazy. I mean they have to make the model in general, then they have to animate it dying. Extra work for them, and we all know most devs are lazy sacks of shit.
Wyatt Hall
>Americans complaining about shooting children in video games >They do it anyway in real life because muh freedom lmao
Luke Foster
You are laughably child-like in your thought processes and know nothing about game design
Cooper Foster
I'm not american, but who is the group that's publicly against anything not politically correct these days?
Liberals.
Feminist liberals and SJWs. People like Anita Sarkstein, Zoe Quin and Brianna Wuu. Try to deny it. Their ilk ruined games.
Ayden Carter
Sorry, how do you see an inherent disregard of the already-vague 'PC values' as being necessary towards good game design?
Noah Scott
He can't starve to death or get eaten, since he's fucking invulnerable to all harm. Completely imperviousto both the enviroment and the player's actions.
That right there ruins immersion for me. You thought of all those scenarios, but then you have to realize that you'll come back and he will still be there. Static, unchanged and unaffected by anything in the world.
Having the option to kill kids and animals would make for a far more belieavable world.
>Playing Skyrim >Those two kids by the saw mill are being dicks to my Argonian for some reason >Playing as much of an evil character as I can, not that I really matters though, and decide to murder their dog >Bitch starts calling for the guard >Nothing I can do to stop her
Alternatively >Playing GTA while following all traffic laws >Get T-boned through an interception and shot into the sidewalk >End with some woman's mangled carcass wrapped around my hood >Realize she didn't have any children or anything because the world she is lacks an organic structure
Cooper Hall
So you think they aren't against killable children in games?
Jace Campbell
"PC values" change every time someone is offended. Trying to tiptoe around land whales feelings and please everyone is antithetical to creativity and creative freedom.
Bentley Nelson
Oh, so it's specifically killable children that make a good game?
John White
May you fall and slide on your slippery slope, into the valleys of shame, until you learn to shun that fallacious diversion.
Jaxon Bell
My point is that 'feminist liberals' are not why you can't kill kids in video games. That shit would be controversial and offensive across the entire political spectrum.
Levi Young
>this passive aggressive faggot response Just kill yourself you kike.
Owen Evans
>food analogy fucking americans
Elijah Williams
>Trying to tiptoe around land whales feelings and please everyone is antithetical to creativity and creative freedom. Especially since they aren't buying video games anyways. They put on a big huff about not buying them because it doesn't support their values, but then most of them don't buy the games even when they do align with their views. Supporting these people as a whole in the game development industry is a death trap for your company.
Brandon Johnson
play Divinity Original Sin You can kill anyone, even cats
Henry Murphy
>I don't know what passive aggressive means and now I'm angry and lashing out like a petulant child
Well suited for debate aren't you? Maybe wait until you are a little better equipped to handle semi-grown up conversation, you're not exactly doing your views proud
Jonathan Stewart
Especially cats. Those smarmy little shits. No I'm not going to bring you your stupid collar back!
Kayden Green
They certainly don't hurt, unless you're one of the SJW variety.
Gavin Ramirez
Yeah, it was definetaly Cred Forumsfags complaining about killing women in gta v stoopid people amirite?
Gavin Sanchez
>i have bested my opponent in the anime imageboard halls of debate
Tyler Clark
>tfw I'm a moralfag because I don't see the appeal in indiscriminate child murder
Sorry OP!
Levi Morales
Don't tell me you killed this p-poor cat user...
How could you...
Christian Bailey
It is realistic The West's birthrates are so low that there aren't any children
Benjamin Collins
This is one of the stupidest viewpoints i've read. Think about what you're saying.
>inb4 you somehow take this to mean 'killable kids are bad' again
Juan Morris
>I simply want a realistic portray of a city or town. I don't. I just want a game where I can shoot children and babies. My dream videogame is to have a school shooter simulator. That's all what videogames are good for: just virtual killing. If you really think about all good videogames involves killing.
Jace Sanchez
ugh...just ugh... we need to treat these npcs as if they're real people. HELLO BIGOTS??
how could you want to kill a fictional character in a videogame? Are you some kind of psycho??
Hudson James
That's right
Cooper Evans
>Cred Forums debate champion 2016 Niggers
Nathan Thompson
What I'm saying is that moralfag SJWs have negatively influenced gaming.
Christopher Miller
And your entire argument for that is that there is not as much non-PC content in games now, which I don't see being in any way important for a quality game. I enjoyed Katamari just fine.
Thomas Kelly
>they continue to take the moral high ground and defend pixels
Literally what is lost if you have the option of killing children?
Andrew White
You're admitting that this is an outside force that's dictating the state of current games. Just because you like the direction it's headed doesn't matter. By confirming the complaints you have shown them to be justified.
Brayden Martinez
Slippery slope isn't a fallacy when the slope is actually slippery. If 'moralfags' are why you can't kill kids, then they're also why you can't kill pets. A realistic city would have people walking dogs and such, no?
Liam Rodriguez
I agree. All NPCs should be invulnerable at all times. Cutscene deaths only should apply, and those should be used sparingly with your character showing the appropriate amount of physical and mental grief.
Angel Butler
muh emulsion
Andrew Powell
>it's okay when sjws destroy marketing demographics and niches because i get more katamari games
Samuel Moore
And again you're blaming a small subset of 'SJWs' when killing children is a pretty hardline taboo for most people regardless of political views.
Isaiah James
No, I'm saying the 'outside force' is arbitrary and has no bearing on the quality of a game, that's completely different, almost the opposite.
Seriously, do you read and comprehend words in a post, or do you just look for little openings and cracks so that you can claim to have won an internet argument? Try responding to the post instead of trying to refute it, it's easy to find semantic flaws in an inherently flawed language
Benjamin Howard
Because they're little shits
Aiden Miller
>You are literally this stupid
Do you post stuff like this because it's defeatist to just wear a hat that says 'I don't have an argument'?
Cooper Hill
>it's arbitrary to me because i don't play the games and like katamari instead Not an argument.
Luke Allen
lmoa learn to read kiddo
Carson Rodriguez
>Not an argument. I was responding in kind. What exactly would you have me respond to?
>it's arbitrary to me because i don't play the games and like katamari instead
So you actually are that stupid? Is that honestly what you took away from that post? I'll 'explain' it below, but if you hover, you should honestly feel bad about yourself for not comprehending a very simple argument
Katamari is an example of how non-PC elements are not necessary or any indication of a game's quality
Owen Green
I don't get it, why do you hate little kids so much?
John Robinson
>it's all okay because this one game was good >since this one game was good that means pc elements don't dictate every single games ability to be good
This is your argument. Seriously fuck off and kill yourself you retard.
Carter Mitchell
>GGfags literally moaning for elements to be included in games >Think these arbitrary elements are somehow an indicator of a game's quality >'We're really not like SJWs guys!'
Even the blindest GGfag must see
Mason Barnes
Several games have already had their development affected by SJWs. DOAX3 was not released in the west specifically because of "SJW nonsense", as said by the developers.
Luis Murphy
This. Bethesda are fully aware that modders will do it for them, it gets around the ESRB, and is the perfect solution. Yet OP continues to be a faggot.
Owen Rodriguez
>It's all ok because this one gaame was good So your argument really is that Katamari is the only good game without non-PC elements?
Again, try thinking before you type. You're in such a rush to win an anonymous internet argument you're making yourself come off like a massive retard. I KNOW that can't be what you meant, but there's no other content in your post
Ian White
You can kill children in the Witcher iirc
Henry Miller
this is pretty shit bait
Levi Brown
>So your argument really is that Katamari is the only good game without non-PC elements? No you cock sucker, you're stating that because katamari was good that you don't care about sjw influence and creative stifling which you admit exists .
>i don't like it so your niche should go away
Isaiah Mitchell
yeah I really don't care that the other guy is arguing.
I hate zombie games, their indicative enough that all video games are good for is senseless murder. The no russian scene in call of duty was pretty satisfying. screen cap this one day I will make a videogame where this is the main feature
Ayden Williams
>because katamari was good without non-pc elements every single game can be too
Jose Price
its illegal due to uS federal law as western devs have said to have a killable child in a game which is why most games will never have children as rockstar has said since it destroys the innocence of childhood.
Jaxson Myers
Good rebuttal. I take it your eyes have been opened
>some people STILL happily associate themselves with the GG movement
jesus christ
Parker Anderson
Sorry, where did I 'admit' creative stifling exists? Once again, claiming the opposite. You need to take a break from a specific board on the Cred Forums website, it's killing your ability for debate
Ryan Morris
I read up on GG and it seemed to be a group focused on exposing corruption in journalisim. It was sparked because of Zoe Quin allegedly launching DOS attacks on the websites of competing game developers. It ran into trouble because Zoe was a woman, which guaranted unconditional support form feminists and allowed the implementation of a Progressive Stack, which is what also cut the legs off of the Occupy Wallstreet movement.
Whenever I see this "you're just like them SJW" finger pointing I just think that person is an idiot. I don't see fags on Cred Forums influencing games like SJWs do, or even attempting to.
Caleb Rogers
No one who isn't retarded likes zombie games anymore, tho.
Nathan Hill
Nice backpedal sjw weasel.
Henry Flores
Child murder would, undoubtedly, make ESRB slap any game that includes it with the AO stamp, and that is seen as a literal death mark by publishers, as it narrows the audience down quite a bit.
Camden Adams
>GG is now focussing on killing children in games
way to go guys
Adrian Garcia
>Games with the AO rating are considered by the board to be unsuitable for those seventeen and younger; AO-rated games can contain higher levels of violent, profane, sexual, or pornographic content than the Mature (M) rating (the next-lowest on the scale) can accommodate. AO is the highest and most restrictive of the ESRB's content ratings, and dramatically impacts the commercial availability of games which carry it; all three major video game console manufacturers (Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony Interactive Entertainment) refuse to allow AO-rated games to be published for their platforms, and most retailers refuse to stock AO-rated games. Due to these self-imposed restrictions on the marketing and distribution of games with the rating, the AO rating has been described as a "kiss of death" by critics educate yourself.
Lucas Campbell
If you put killable children in your game, the game will be banned by most retailers. So can't really blame publishers/devs. Blame censorship that nobody cares to do anything about.
Luke Bell
Are you retarded? Murdering imaginary children is freedom and a conservative value, yes. Censorship in the other hand is a leftist tool.
Mason Edwards
Are there bad video games that would've been good if only they had allowed you to kill children?
Are there good video games that allow you to kill children but would've sucked if they didn't?
Asher Myers
what
Luis Murphy
There's so much that's silly/ just wrong with this post I'm wondering if it's worth going through and highlighting everything, or if the effort is too great so I'll just take the hit to my user pride and let you believe you have a point
Isaiah James
i slew that kid in deus ex for talking shit to me
then i reloaded because that's not me
Kevin Kelly
Pretty sure you acted like little shits when you were a child, and I see nothing changed.
Gavin Evans
You should not be allowed to draw stick figures killing each other if one of them is smaller and a child.
If you're going to try to use terms for arguments in place of arguments themselves at least get the terms right. That's 2 you've used incorrectly now
Jose Perez
Hello.
Luis Carter
Hi I didn't look at your image, want to give me the gist so I can presume you've at least thought about your point and not just blindly followed a meme?
Thanks for admitting that SJWs are why killable kids aren't in games now.
Brody Rivera
No one cares about your moral grandstanding kike, go protest against hate speech or whatever it is you do.
Jack Scott
Thanks for the textbook example of GG reaching and 'reasoning'. You can't be happy with that.
Anthony Morgan
Hello German Government.
Luis Myers
you don't notice if something is not quite right unless it's forbidden.
It's about having the freedom, putting something there which is invincible is stupid.
Jonathan Cook
>lose argument >F-F-FUCKING JEW! kek
Easton King
>Urgh. Could you just like, urgh. I mean totally, like, urgh. >*rolls eyes* >*cringes*
Okay? What does that have to do with anything?
Leo Bennett
>failed samefag >just giving up and spouting memes
Pretty pathetic kid
Hunter Torres
I have no idea. As you posted it, maybe you could give us the intended meaning?
Luke Roberts
>One of classic books that are mandatory readings at school involve a graphic description of an innocent child being burned to death in a furnace It's alright
>Killing children in video games NO YOU CANNOT!
John Allen
see
Dylan Bell
I means you're a dipshit SJW who thinks a persons rights should end where your feelings begin.
Jaxon Watson
in Dying light there is a type of children-zombie who you cannot kill but you can stun them. This is gettin ridiculous
Angel Young
So why participate? Why give it a go if you don't care to comment?
>I'll just post an image if I lose, then it's like I've really won!
So see through
Lincoln Cooper
>he said as he nervously cries about fictional videogame characters being killed
Jacob Diaz
Well that's a massive leap isn't it, care to point out where you got that information?
I know it's condescending talking to you like this, but there's no other way to approach it. The aim is, if you try to find evidence of your claim, you will see there is none, and you have been scared of a boogeymen for the past 3 years
Xavier Watson
It's not like the ESRP is a thing or anything about , this isn't immersion breaking your just being a edgy 14 year old
Jason Lee
Haha I knew you couldn't leave it be. Take that as confirmation of my point. I can see you are desperately scrambling around in 'pretend I was trolling' mode now so I'll leave you to it
Adrian Flores
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Nicholas Hill
Nice deflection, keep crying about all those fictional videogame characters that have been killed.
Michael Scott
In first two Fallout games you can kill children in fact you can witness entire family being executed. I'm surprised later Fallouts toned down the grimdark when 3D world could really expand on it.
Colton Morales
Games are supposed to be an escape from reality
Austin Morgan
for you
Angel Anderson
Why would you be surprised? The SJW moral police won and deemed such things in videogames to be the greatest sin.
Jaxon Myers
Huh? These? You can kill them
Julian Thompson
Killing children would give it a higher rating. It's rating bulls hit. Blame Hillary and Tipper Gore.
Brody Foster
>No, it was all European versions, but way to show your ignorance. Not him, but I'm sure my version had kids. So not all european versions.
Liam Jenkins
>b-b-but killing fictional characters in videogames is so bad and wrong wahhh
This is one of those things that people don't like hearing. And for good reasons.
But I actually do understand where OP is coming from, sorta.
See, when I bought the deluxe edition of Fallout 3, I thought I was going to get something like Fallout 1 or 2 but in a big expansive world like an Elder Scrolls game.
I had a character I played in 1 & 2, sort of a loose characterization. An evil, violent, unscrupulous man. With one rule. He never killed kids. Ever. I once gunned down that sonofabitch Ian because he opened fire in a street in the Hub and killed a kid.
So, when the back of the box said "unlimited choice!" I had to test Bethesda's word, because I was already a little annoyed by the whole nonsense with the "find your father!" story that I didn't find engaging or interesting despite Liam Neeson's wonderful voice talents.
Anyway, I was looting a supermarket after deciding I wouldn't explore Megaton, since I'd seen that in one of the trailers. Outside, I ran into a boy. He told me about "them!" and ran off.
I decided now was as good a time as any to test that "choice!" spiel on the back of the lunchbox. I saved, and grimly hit the V.A.T.S. key...
... And noticed I couldn't actually shoot at him or complete the V.A.T.S. attack in any way. Curious, I switched back to the rather crappy shooter mode, and hosed him down liberally with SMG fire.
I noted, that like so many of the infuriating NPCs in Oblivion, he was invincible.
"Ah," I said to myself. "My choices don't actually matter at all. It's really just the choices I'm allowed to make that might matter."
I learned, over the course of the game, that many, many NPCs were invulnerable, and that many many areas could not be traversed because of invisible walls. I came not to care for the Capital Wasteland, and my irritation with it culminated with Fawkes' radiation immune ass telling me to get in the flooded chamber.
I did eventually play the DLC. But it soured my view of the game.
Easton Ramirez
Lack of denial is what's killing you. What SJWs believe is that rights end where feelings begin. They take this ideology and they apply it to EVERYTHING. Political correctness is actual correctness for them. Free speech and freedom of expression can get fucked if it offends the smallest minority.
Of course the conventional law doesn't allow this, so they make it support this. Some mentally unstable mutant who identifies as a whale doesn't like a feature in game X? Que an army of SJWs on twitter harassing the devs over it. No offense is too small for them, so long as it gains support the support of todays outrage culture obsessed youth, it blows up.
Henry Rogers
>The claim that you need to kill children to make a game immersive is ridiculous >OMG NU MALES DON'T WANT TO KILL KIDS IN GAMES
This is why your 'movement' is treated as children whining
Andrew Morris
read your own sticky dumbass
Ryan Williams
Keep crying little bitch lmao
Christian Ramirez
>Where did you get that information >Just expands on it
redundant
Brody Roberts
>The claim that you need to kill children to make a game immersive is ridiculous
That's not the claim retard, the claim is that it breaks immersion.
Blake Scott
>Are there bad video games that would've been good if only they had allowed you to kill children?
hatred
Blake Mitchell
>Child murder is added into a game >It carries the same kind of consequences and social stigma as it does in the real world
There, both parties satisfied.
Nathaniel Cox
For some reason a lot of corporations (including EA) allow this loud minority of retards who think feelees are the best influence them even though it doesn't give them much money.
Dominic Hernandez
The killing children thing getting out of games happened before SJW became popular. It's a backlash from Colombine.
Eli Brown
>He thinks not agreeing with numale SJWs is a "movement"
I just call it common sense.
Julian Cooper
it's still bullshit i'll make my school shooter simulator release it on pc without any publisher help I'll make millions
Michael Russell
>Skyrim >150 mods >storm into Windhelm's throne room >use a shout to send everything on the table flying >stop time >use paralyzing arrows to paralyze all the guards >resume time >walk up to ulfric who tries to fight >stop time again >smack ulfric's back with a giant hammer and use a shout >kill all the guards >resume the time >everyone except ulfric is dead >walk up to him >rip his heart out >use "Raise Army" and raid Solitude with my new skeleton army of nords >mfw
Nicholas Ortiz
How would they make it different to regular murder? >this mass murderer has crossed the line and now killed a child, we will not tolerate it (we did before because he only killed adults, that was okay, but now that he killed some kids it's different)
Isaiah Hughes
People do tend to see the killing of children as worse than killing adults. It carries the same legal consequences of course, but people will think you more of a monster than a "regular" murderer.
That's just how humans work, for some reason.
Thomas Murphy
You're definitely the kind of guy people laugh at in public
Carter Thompson
>>this mass murderer has crossed the line and now killed a child, we will not tolerate it (we did before because he only killed adults, that was okay, but now that he killed some kids it's different) That reminds me of every single argument in this thread against killable child npcs :^)
Zachary Brown
>>Playing as much of an evil character as I can, not that I really matters though, and decide to murder their dog You'll realize just how hard it is to be as evil you can when literally everything is morally good. The only two things I can think of are the thieves guild and the assassins guild but other than that you're fucked
Cooper Green
Right but from the point of view of the murderer on the loose, there's no real difference, people will run for their lives from him or try to kill/arrest him either way.
Anthony James
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Brody Richardson
Not necessarily. If you were to incorporate this into a game, from a gameplay perspective, having killed children could permanently make you a social outcast and lock you out of basic societal services even after you have suffered the regular consequences of homicide in the game.
Nolan Hall
>having killed children could permanently make you a social outcast and lock you out of basic societal services But being a mass murderer who killed numerous innocent adults wouldn't?
Bentley Stewart
In reality, a mass murderer would most likely never set foot outside a prison again, but someone who maybe killed one or two kids may and most likely will.
Michael Wood
I always wanted to kill a children.
Gavin Lee
You can kill animals in GTA already you dumb faggot. Hell, you can shoot Franklin's dog if you want.
Levi Mitchell
yeah dude me to I've always wanted to play a game where I can bust down a door and fire a huge machine gun into a densely packed room full of kids and have each kid with their own separate voices of just screams and super realistic physics of everything getting destroyed with dismemberment and the game is also a rape simulator so it's a mass murder school shooter rape simulator
Brayden Thompson
Why not? Does it harm anyone?
William Martinez
In 1984 you could gun down a kid in Law of the West for the C64.