How do we remove it from EVO 2017 user?

Give Mango the third win and they will leave. We can finally have some fresh air in the venue and not the disgusting odor

I'm looking forward to it though, OP.

3vo cant happen anymore, or at least it wont be nearly as impressive as winning 3 times in a row.

The problem is that the smash community practically invades EVO and is by far the rudest fanbase there.

Yes, let's remove one of the most popular and top games at the event.

Pretty much everyone is. I've read that some Melee pros want to boycott because
>"MUUUH BEST OF 5"

The general FGC far exceeds smash in cringey autism.

youtu.be/CsJfLKtGlfw

After the floating and the private rooms get added, it'll be gone when they ask for more free shit.

>SF4
>most viewed
>removed for SF5

>Melee
>most viewed
>not removed for Smash 4

?????

That's just Leffen I believe. That guy isn't coming to any US events any time soon though, so it doesn't matter what he thinks at the current moment.

You may be thinking of Smash 4 top players tho.

Only 5% of the community wants floating though.

We need more melee!

>There'll never be another U.S Leffen match in your lifetime.

I wonder what laffen will say next?
youtube.com/watch?v=4iNXhqaANqY

I miss leffen :(

It will happen, OP. MrWiz is just waiting for the right time

That's just McRib making empty threats to look good

You really think he would remove the second biggest game? Smash pays the bills

Smash also makes the bills though.

Smasher money goes to MrWiz's pockets. The bills are paid by Capcom.

>implying anyone actually watched SFV on espn
lmao
melee is always most viewed

So the proper way to go about this is falseflag as melee fags complaining about other games

>project dead
enjoy your every character is broken beyond belief and braindead easy to play
>pm players actually believe game and watch is ok in his current state

Why do they act all entitled and expect different treatment at tourneys but want to be FGC? All FGC members are autistic but smash players are literally stinking man babies that get butthurt at the fact no one cares

Let melee fags continue to be obnoxious and keep making ludicrous demands. They'll eventually get themselves kicked out

How much money do you think Capcom has left at this point?

>400k on ESPN
Did the autistic Smash Bros game hurt your brain?

the problem is they buffed everyone up close to fox's level, not releasing fox is the one that needs nerfing. meleefags get really sensitive over the topic of fox nerfs

Who is pic related rallied against? They have the "our group is about to fight their group" stance, but who is the adversary?

>complaining about doing shit at 8 am

I wonder what it must be like to not have a real job.

more than the money gotten from the 25% of smash entrants that actually paid the entry fee, especially after all the money needed to make the smash venue safe for human occupation for the next person that rents it.

Street Fighter

melee players don't suck nintendo's dick because they haven't done shit for the game and actively hated the players for years

the only reason 4 is there is because of nintendo and the mass of casuals thinking it's an actual competitive game

conversely, SF players have to clutch to every SF that comes out so that papa capcom doesn't just shut their shit down for good. people don't play SF for the love of the game. they do it for the money.

EVO is run like shit and cuts corners, It's funny that smashfags are the only ones to say it for all to see. Meanwhile other communities retreat back to Dustloop or Testyourmight or Discords to remain passive-aggressive even though they'll keep showing up to EVO anyway.

Glorified Garage Tournament. Look to Combo Breaker for an actual well run big FGC Major where the Head TO doesn't cheap out constantly and actually pays all his staff AND pays them on time.

Not everyone works a 9 - 5 job. Some of us are night shift

>Thinks Melee is competitive but Smash 4 is not.
>Both from the same franchise
Do meleefags understand that Melee has the title Smash Bros infront of it?

Most people work normal jobs during the day, Zero is treating it like it's the worst working experience he's ever had.

>25% of smash entrants that actually paid the entry fee

Here's your (You)

yea and some people don't have jobs at all, like the smash community.
One of the reasons they got dropped back in the late 2000s evo is because no matter what time slot they were in, they just couldn't show up on time.

Let's just float the top 2 to grand finals and let them do their precious first to five

But Fox did get nerfed. Just not enough probably.

No one has ever asked for either of those things

Everything about melee is so fucking surreal and trippy.

lmaoooooo not even as a bait

By ignoring it.

If no one is watching/playing, it will vanish.

>EVO wants Melee
>Nintendo won't let them feature melee on streams unless they also show sm4sh

you fuckers keep backpedaling that shit so hard.
in this thread alone you've gone from "only 5% of the community asked for it" to "literally not a single person asked for it" as if you think that it hides the fact that over half the community isn't asking, but demanding for it.

Literally no one wants Melee except the Melee community

melee fanbase has the least amount of niggers so that's automatically wrong.

Are you retarded? Third strike is more competitive than 5 and they're the same series

No one has ever asked to get floated to grand finals or asked for FT5's.

Third strike is a meme game with terrible balance and mechanics, and this clearly shows you know nothing about the community you attach to like a Remora.

>smash
>has had more incidents at EVO involving sexual assault, rape, and vandalism than any other game
>community is entitled whiners demanding skipping pools, private vip areas, and private training section
>shows no respect to other games
>has put the crowd to sleep because of how boring their matches are.

>including smash
>cutting the context of many of those pop offs which explain why they were doing that

lol get this shit out of here

The balance is off but the mechanics are far superior

Oh hey, just like melee compared to 4

>FGCucks are still butthurt that melee is the most popular fighting game at EVO

Loving every laugh.

Replace it with Capcom vs SNK 3

shoryuken.com/2016/07/19/street-fighter-vs-espn2-viewership-results-over-201k-tuned-in/

>Melee
>Fighting Game
pick one

>awful schedule
>nearly over a thousand people playing
>casino and hotels require them to finish up around a certain time combined with the fact that they were also getting ready to stream at a new area for the ESPN shit

haha smash kids are stupid

>Mechanics are far superior
>That horrible stun mechanic letting you continue to juggle after it
>parry literally removing zoning from the game
>Super art stocks leading to complete bullshit like yun having genei jin forever
>UO
5 is trash, but 3 is actively a broken game from a competitive standpoint, compared to the superior ST.

After how they booed Guilty Gear nonstop I hope they are never invited again

Was with you until you implied that ST is somehow less broken than 3rd strike

This is my favorite meme, please keep posting XD

When did this happen? You mean when Jebailey said "Who's ready for Melee" and people cheered?

I worded that badly.
I should've said comparable to the superior ST, which is, in my opinion, superior in being both a competitive game and a broken mess.

evo 2015 they booed the entire GG segment nonstop

>meleefags
>pic itself complains about smash4 being ran badly
>Zero doesn't even reg for melee singles at anything

This is a complete horseshit rumor spread by FGCmonkeys

I can't find any mention of this anywhere. Have a video or something?

Sounds like the pool shitting incident that never actually happened at CEO

you mean like the part where they kicked GG out of its own venue?
you mean like the part where they tipped over vending machines?
The truth finds a way user, and eventually we'll have video footage.

>trying to save face
Go to google and look up online. People reported this as it happened.

>awful schedule
Every other game had the same schedule
>nearly over a thousand people playing
Smash 4 and Melee had half of the entire convention hall to themselves. The other 12 games had the rest.
>casino and hotel time requirements
Every other game had the same schedule

I got baited this time, but I gotta remember not to talk with smash kids, because they're actually kids, and really aren't that smart and aren't capable of arguing

find a cure for autism

>you mean like the part where they kicked GG out of its own venue?
you mean the evo floor space that all games share

don't bother, they make reddit threads with similar enough titles to trick the search engine into hiding the real shit on to page 77 or so.

Evidence A, fgcmonkey spreading more bullshit

After seeing how Leffen reacted to MagicScrumpy's Fox nerf video my first impression of him is "pretentious, self-centered douche".

Leffen is a dumb swede cuck no one likes

It was fucking hilarious how he literally cried on stream about being bullied, the hypocrisy of this man is unmatched

linky or you stinky

yea man it totally never happened haha.

On my phone I'll be home in like 2 hours if this thread is still up i have it bookmarked

>booed the entire GG segment nonstop
No twitter posts, no youtube posts, no r/kappa posts
>kicked GG out of its own venue
You mean when EVO oversold it's venue space last year and, surprise surprise, the biggest game took up the most room on Saturday?
>tipped over vending machines
Again, I don't see this anywhere

>Smash gets 2 games because of corporate meddling
>majority of the players have large problems with boundaries and hygiene
>no MvC2 or Skullgirls at EVO
>any bonus prize pool for MvC3 has to be made from the nickels inside of players' socks

Isn't EVO about Fighting Games?

Let's be honest: the only reason EVO is still going is because of Smash.

So EVO put the Top 32 bracket for 3 games in the same small ballroom on Saturday and not everyone could fit in and the bigger game had more people in the room

How is this Smash's fault? Sounds like EVO didn't get enough venue space to accommodate everybody

Nice try. It's been reported on and easily found online.

The problem is we're too generous.
we let them come into our street fighter tournament as guests, and they demand more shit for free, and here we are complying.

>baaaw why did mr. Wizard broadcast the more popular game

Keep crying monkey

>Melee community
This implies that the game has a community, when in reality the community it built around the top 8 players and hero worship.

Nobody new is getting into melee, it's literally college students who used to play melee after school trying to be apart of something without investing time into it. I genuinely feel bad for the tiny amount people who actually play melee.

That's Sm4sh, which is a kiddie game through and through

All bullshit no source

We? You didn't do shit mr. Wizard saw that he could make mad shekels off smash and brought it in. No one cares about the 30 people playing skull girls

That's CEO, He said EVO 2015

There was no "booing" at CEO, Jebailey said "Melee will be delayed" and people booed. Jebailey later said "Who's ready for Melee" and people cheered

>no source
>source all over google

If nobody new is getting into Melee than how are the entrants growing by at least 20% every single year?

All illegitimate unless you provide concrete proof

>Jebailey said "Melee will be delayed" and people booed.

And you are saying this is okay? This happens a lot at majors, and I've never ever heard of a community booing over it. Even games that get canceled entirely because of cab issues don't issue people booing while other games are being played.

>all these accounts aren't proof because I said so
You melee fags really are reaching. I can't wait for you to finally get kicked out of the fgc for your toxic behavior

Because the general popularity of Evo is increasing in size and scope by 20%. Melee has no upsets and no rising players because there isn't any internal investing community in the game.

somehow make it not the most popular and profitable game there. it got peak viewers of the whole event this year, its not getting dropped any time soon

Smash is the reason that CEO is held at all, it would be like if the finals of Street fighter were cancelled at CPT.

Still no proof

There's no proof proving that the testimonies are false.

>Mr. Wizard
The man is a total sperg retard asshat, but don't give him more credit than he's due. He doesn't actually have much influence over critical aspects of evo, and he hasn't for fucking years.

I have my proof all over the internet. Where is your proof it didn't happen?

I'm saying no one was Booing Guilty Gear for being there. Jebailey was being an MC said the game would be delayed and some people were mildly upset, some were probably booing in jest.

who is plup and who is westballz

these are already 2 rising players that made it into evo 2016 top 8

That's not how it works kiddo, I wouldn't expect anything less from an FGCmonkey

>Smash is the reason that CEO is held at all
Dishonesty, but it also doesn't address the actual issue irregardless.

>Smash is the reason that CEO is held at all

All over the Internet

You still booed and disrupted the Guilty Gear event, and there was a ton of people both of stream, and in-person who feel that way.

ceogaming.org/ceo2016feedback

>Have no evidence to the claim that it didn't happen
>have no evidence to the claim that the evidence that it did is false
>no but you're wrong because primate

This is how the justice system works in the west, this is an American imageboard. If you don't like it Fuck off

Still does not excuse what was done. Delays, and even cancellations happen all the time, and this is a phenomenon that is completely foreign to the FGC for over 15 years.

I don't give a fuck what Jebaily takes credit for or tries to damage control.

what you basically agreed with me moron.

Remember to keep Smashfags on a short leash.

Is the FGC jealous of the Melee community?

It seems like every big fighting game out today has fans who hate the current installment and would much prefer to play an older game in the series. The Melee community is the only community with the stones to actually do it. (probably because Brawl was THAT bad)

We need to remove the fgc in general

Hunters orange leashes please so I can see them before I can smell them.

>B-but you hurt someone's feelings

When did the FGC get so soft?

Just play Shrek Super Slam instead

...

People still play ST, 3, U4, etc.
you can pretend it's jealousy or anything other than the straw that broke the camel's back all you want, it doesn't change the truth.

>smash is the worst Fanbase in the world, cancerous faggots always shitting on real fighting games.

I don't recall smashers trying to get SFV removed from evo

Really makes you think.

>every other company pays for their own games prize pool
>smashfags are stupid enough to pay for it themselves

I'd rather compete for someone else's money, not my own.

Because Smash doesn't care about other fighters enough to want to decide which one gets the axe, they just want enough gone.
Demanding multiple games of the same series in EVO actively denied another community a spot.
Demanding for VIP rooms and floating and VIP lobbies is probably going to cost another game a spot.

>People still play ST, 3, U4, etc.
lol no they don't

FGC is okay with getting railed in the ass by Shitty TOs and tournaments, that's why events like Final Round continue to exist and get big numbers every year even though it's a shitshow.

>I don't recall smashers trying to get SFV removed from evo
Why would they

that guy didnt knew anything about smash.
most people preffer melee or mods over melee because that shit is hard as fuck to play, but is more rewarding at the end.

ignore the autists, everybody loves melee but doesnt love to play it.
nintendo needs to make a game as easy to play as smash 4 while being as rewarding competitive wise as melee, many people wants that, but they never will.

Friendly reminder at the end of the episode people wanted him back cause he got rich

You aren't forced to pay anymore than a $10 entry (+venue fee) like all other fighting games

>Most people preffer melee or mods over melee

It's time for you to hit the showers.

4 Had more people sign up for it in both evo it had.

>wanting to play for a new installment
>"no you can't use proper equipment go fuck yourself"

I really wonder how that would go over

>floating would cause another game to lose its spot
Literally how.

They don't.

This post literally stopped saying anything of value half way through. Nice idea, though.
>the straw that broke the camel's back
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. Is the FGC the camel? If so, good riddance.
Prize pools don't matter to 99% of the entrants. And besides, it's a contest of skill. You put your money on the table, and if you win, you get everyone else's money. Sure, it's less money than the winners of other games, but most people play Melee because they love the game, not for money.

yea
that episode was 2000s evo and the ending is evo now.
and now we're dealing with the consequences of that decision.

>Prize pools don't matter to 99% of the entrants.

Ok, you're done. You tried. No one is bothering to play most of these trash fighting games for skill.

>Demanding multiple games of the same series in EVO actively denied another community a spot.
That's mostly Nintendo's doing. I'm a Smash 4 player and even I don't think Smash 4 belongs at EVO. Melee does, though, and the only way Nintendo will "sponsor" the event (read: they promise they won't take down the youtube VoDs) is if their new shiny game on their new shiny system is included.

Hence, why Smash 4 got completely shafted at EVO 2016. Nobody wanted it there except Nintendo.

youtube.com/watch?v=TCvL0Gpbh1M

>FGC talks shit about the melee community
>while sucking capcom dick and living off their money
>when capcom goes bust the FGC will burn to the ground and return to 2001
>meanwhile the melee community is a grassroot community that has become the biggest evo title despite its developers literally disowning the game and actively trying to sabotage it

Remind me how the FGC are the good guys in this story

I attend locals hosted by my clubs in my college. If I gave a shit about money, I wouldn't enter because I know half the people attending them will push my shit in.
I attend because I love pushing my technical skill to the limit, and playing against other people in real life is fun.

doesnt mean people dont see melee as a better game to both watch and play, its just fucking hard.

sheik is considered a hard character on smash4 pls

>DSP

you really could have done better.

Locals != actual tournaments

Shit, you're right. All of the FGC is just a scam so "top players" can make a ton of money from the game developers.

I gotta get in on this. Can somebody teach me how to SRK?

But that's wrong, the hardest characters are pac man, peach, and shulk

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>no one plays fighting games for fun
>But people at my locals do
>Locals != actual tournaments

I wish I was strong enough to move goalposts like you do.

>they haven't done shit for the game and actively hated the players for years

You know a fanbase is awful when even the original work's creator thinks they're faggots.

>Muh grassroots
>Battle by the bay, what's that?
>oh and you need to pay for private rooms for the players that are without a doubt going to be in the top 32, free of charge.
you stopped being grassroots when you became a tapeworm.

>Sakurai commended the Marvel 3 for basing their comp scene around the brokenness instead of crying about what should be removed

That's hilarious

>literally one tournament had a room for people who are on deck to play on stream

Kage tweeted that it was a VIP room because he's a fucking mongoloid

floating players is aids so I'll agree on that one

didnt said she was the hardest, but she is considered hard to play.
people just want to button smash and shit.

>involving sexual assault, rape, and vandalism than any other game
What the fuck. Are fighting genre players really that fucked in the head?

Pretty sure only a few consider Sheik hard and even they say she is easier than others.
Ness
Villager
Peach
Mega Man
Pac-man
Sonic
Ryu
Rosalina
Bayonetta now
Grininja
Mewtwo
Lucas
Captain Falcon
Duck Hunt
Link
And so many more are harder than Sheik.

I'd argue a lot of smash 4 characters have higher learning curves than Melee

>this local tourney for a $20 gamestop gift card and $100 with 30 entrants is totally the same as this tournament in las vegas with over 1000 people with more than $10k on the line

>Ness
>c falcon

Is this bait?

There's alot of hood rats in the FGC, but somehow they manage to not be as big a problem.
Think about that for a minute.
Smash is the foster care children grown up to the fgc's crime statistics.

It's not about feelings. It's about the fact that you are a unhygienic cancerous growth on our community and we are going to use anything to attack you because you fundamentally do not contribute to the initial culture, standards, or mutual respect that this community was founded with.

Reminder to support your local scene.
The way to defeat them is with passion, and not force.

Go ahead and try to do le ebin pk fire grab combo in high level play, see how that turns out

>No shulk

>link
>c falcon
>fucking Ness
>harder than sheik

Sheik, Ness, Mario, Diddy Kong, and Cloud are the easiest high tiers to pick up.

Also, friendly reminder that learning how to play a character =/= learning how to win international level tournaments with a character

Considering FOW did it well when he was active it seems to work

Ness has piss easy converts with piss easy kill confirms via back throw or up air

For glory hs clouded your sight, high-level Link is actually really fuckin hard to do

Nobody understands what criteria you're looking for here, champ.

Its almost as if the meta has evolved since then

Small tournaments = play for skill
Big tournaments = play for money

Maybe I haven't seen much of link but c falcon and Ness are jokes

>Bayonetta now
user i..

So you're saying the guy who got 261st place in SFV at EVO was playing for money?

Doesn't change Ness being easy as shit

Yeah

You should've seen the backlash when they did though.

Yeah Im not defending them, but Link is a really high risk-okay reward character

Hes decimated off stage, power shielding craps on his zoning and he struggles to kill since all his kill options are slow as hell, except maybe fair

He's also got those advanced bomb-footstool techniques that almost never work because they're too hard to set up

Why are Fightingfags so elitist?
Worse than FPSfags tbqh

fow also has been beat by having his thunder robbed.

Ness is stupid easy to gimp as well as Falcon. Ness is slow on movement and Falcon has to be agro to win. These things can be game costing at high level play

Easy gimp recovery and slow makes him hard at high level play.

It's more the pools starting at 8AM and continuing tournament level play on until after midnight. That on its own brings down the level of play given that it's impossible to get a full 8 night's sleep and be ready for your sets the following day, which is when things actually get hard in terms of competition.

Well, I'm sorry to say this, but he's fucking retarded.

I'm going to EVO next year to play Smash 4. I'm going to drown in pools, play lots of friendlies/money matches against good players, get drunk with my friends, then scream my lungs out watching finals of every game on the last day. It's gonna be an awesome vacation, well worth the cost.

I'd imagine Melee would have to suffer some sort of catastrophic crash of players and viewership sometime between now and then to have it removed, or the Melee community would have to do something so offensive to Mr. Wizz that he axes it, but even then he's a Jew so he's not gonna turn down free money from Melee even if they offend him.

tr4sh got sponsored in by Nintendo, it's not going anywhere as long as Nintendo wants it there. They're pretty much done supporting Smash4U and the Wii U as a whole though so it's possible they might drop EVO sponsorship next year, however it's also likely they'll rerelease Sm4sh on NX next year as a launch title so they'll be wanting to give it more publicity again by greasing the ol Wizman's palm to get it on the schedule again.

Pokken certainly won't be back though.

Should Melee fans really be ones to call other communities ELITISTS?
Poor Smash 4 has too suffer becaus eof the autistic elitism that exists in the melee world

>needing 8 hours sleep
You can function just fine in 5 - 6. Stop being lazy shits

ness is a camping character mate, stop gimping yourself and use lucas because clearly you are better at rushdown if you have this mentality.

I'm not saying humans need 8 hours' sleep, genius. However, a tournament environment is one where people are trying to stay at their top form for competitive play. It's not an unreasonable request, though I'm sure Mr Wizard has a good explanation (anything that size being run in 3 days is chaotic at best, cataclysmic at worst).

No you're play for money.

>8 hours is the standard
>Stop being lazy shits
How's highschool?

Ness is hardly campy, he just has tools to avoid it happening to him some

>Ness is hardly campy
Explain all the for glory shitters that only know how to use pk fire and back throw.

I don't play fighting games, I'm just here to watch retards scream at eachother

Post yfw melee will be at evo longer than SFV

>"nobody plays smash for fun/skill"
>here are a bunch of people who play for fun/skill
>"no they don't count, I have other criteria that I just made up"
>ok here's some more examples of people who play for fun/skill
>"no he doesn't count stop contradicting me and my stupid argument"

Please don't act like the community is founded on mutual respect homie. Everyone here knows that's some self-fellating fairy tale. Every fighting game community is linked, but separate, and Smash Bros has consistently operated separately due to the mechanics differences and the fact that it had 0 support. FGC and Smash communities are based solely on the games, and everything else evolved from that. There are all kinds of people in both communities, good and bad. Reducing it to some stereotype war between manchildren playing video games just shows how blind you are to the stupidity of your own community. We're all a bunch of faggots playing video games, and only the REALLY big faggots like you are the ones that try to elevate themselves above others because they play one game over another.

>for glory

theres your problem

i bet you think mac is just 'le c stick man' too

ok

>FGC and Smash communities are based solely on the games

Actually in the case of Capcom and Sm4sh they're very much and partially based off Capcom and Nintendo.

I mean the fanbases, not the infrastructure, obviously. If we were complaining about the companies no one would be pledging race war on Smash players.

The divide between Melee and Smash 4 is evidence of just the opposite, my friend.

Elaborate.

If you don't like how it's run why don't you just not attend it :^)

>wants to remove the best game from EVO
>is actually serious

Well, Melee and Smash 4 are different, despite being made by the same developer, Nintendo. The Melee and Smash 4 communities are different as well, and the things that make their communities unique are a result of the games themselves, not the developer.

I'm sure you could make a similar comparison with SFV and MVC3, which are two completely different games made by Capcom.

Nintendo and Capcom do provide support for their communities, but what really holds up all the different communities within the FGC is the organizers of large events, and the sponsors which provide much needed income. Other than that, it's just people. Lots and lots of people, and they're all influenced by the game they play, not the company that makes it.

>and the things that make their communities unique are a result of the games themselves, not the developer

One very distinctive difference in the communities is that one game has the developer's full support while the other is grassroots and has even been antagonized by the developer in the past.

Smash 4 was made by Namco and published by Nintendo.

Alright, I guess I can concede that Nintendo's change in policy over the past five years has accounted for a lot of the difference between Melee and Smash 4's community.

But I want to believe that even in SFV, a game with full developer support and the most advanced infrastructure in the FGC, the players pick up the game and practice for hours on end because they love the game itself, not because they want money or fame or to be a part of some big cultural phenomenon.

Is that naive? I think it might be naive. Oh well.

If every character is broken, nothing is broken.

You'd have to be an idiot to get into that shit trying to make money unless you're a fucking prodigy honestly. You'd make more and be less stressed just working a normal job 99% of the time.