The state of PC gaming

it's hard to believe a meme created by totalbiscuit, a man who is literally cancer, made it this far

>PC gaming is lightyears less shitty.

Bullshit. PC gaming is useless without games, as long as console exclusives exist, PC gaming is simply a dumping ground for ports of console games making it a secondary platform and no, having multi controller input doesn't substitute for actual video games you cuck.

>Dark Souls
>Old
How young are you guys?

you don't build PCs for "exclusives"
that's console-stuff and I don't want anything to do with it

I care for good games regardless of when they came out, and there are so many I missed out on that I'll be able to play in the future
you can't do that on a PS4 because you're limited to whatever its small library offers you

whenever I get the urge to get a console it's for 2-3 very specific games and nothing else, there's a chance I might not ever buy a game for them after those 2-3 titles ever again

but I know for a fact I'll be playing PC for pretty much the rest of my life at least if I don't grow out of vidya

Dark souls came out in 2011, which is 5 years or half a decade ago.

Nice bait Op, haven't seen this one yet.

I built my PC a year ago because I had to for work and I had the choice to turn it into a ''le epic gayman peeceee wit da mods'' by buying some overprice graphics component but decided not to and waited I out.

There has been absolutely nothing coming out on PC that has convinced me to buy a non stock GPU. PC gaming is completely devoid of software at the moment, all of its native software is made for Pentium 3 PC's. I have no idea why people do the whole le gayman epic mods peecee thing, PC gaming is utterly pointless.

>Old
Megaman is old
Thief: The Dark Project is old
Hell, VtMB is getting to that point
Dark Souls is hardly old

/thread

>you don't build PCs for "exclusives"
>that's console-stuff and I don't want anything to do with it

So investing in a platform for software that is exclusive to the platform is a bad idea?

What you're basically saying is that PC has no games and is worthless

>It's an emulator/indie box
And to think, you could've already done this with your laptop. But no, you had to drop $600 on a gaming PC. Dumbass kek.

Pic related, it's all the money I saved by not buying a PC.

This is the age of multiplats, I'm not buying a console for 1 or 2 games.
>worthless
How is better performance and customization worthless? I simply don't enjoy playing on consoles, regardless of the games they have.

>So investing in a platform for software that is exclusive to the platform is a bad idea?
no, don't get all passive agressive on me
if all you want are those exclusives, go for it
just don't forget that that's all you're getting

I'm saying PC has too many good games from the past

that one game you loved as a kid?
it's extremely likely you can play that on PC

>all of its native software is made for Pentium 3 PC's
There actually is a difference between dual-core and quad-core performance in most AAA games. An i5 is usually worth the money over a Pentium or i3.

I know this is a troll thread but honestly if you played the newest Doom without a Mouse and a keyboard then you didn't play the game.

Modern games are there and a few of the games you named are on PC.

m-muh 1080p......60fps

a-a-antialiasing

>I simply don't enjoy playing on consoles

The platform that has been standard for nearly 3 decades and essentially created the gaming industry and supports a ecosystem for third and first party games development and admittedly carries software you are obviously interested in, is not something you want to play on?

PC games were some of the first video games I ever played but you people need to let go at some point, the golden age of PC gaming is over, it being an official console port machine should tell yousomething

Yep, playing fps with a mouse and keyboard is considerably better feeling, too bad the best fps games don't release on the platform.

name one game op listed that's on pc, and don't tell me splatoon on cemu because cemu doesn't fucking work and is eons away from supporting the gamepad

>The state of PC gaming is deplorable
Just like console gaming.

> essentially created the gaming industry

Murica isn't the whole world, in yurop and especially the UK it was home computers that carried the game industry back around those times.

>it being an official console port machine

it's really quite sad, but true

>The state of gaming is deplorable.
ftfy

>Name a game you want to play this gen chances are you can't on pc.
What if the games I want to play aren't identical to the games you want to play?

>as long as console exclusives exist, PC gaming is simply a dumping ground for ports of console games making it a secondary platform
PC has overall more exclusives than consoles.

Since like 2006 PC's strength haven't been exclusives. It's been the best multiplats.

Which I'm okay with, mutliplats are what I play the most.

That said PC is still the only platform with good grand strategy, which is the best genre that exists, which makes PC the best platform.

>I'm not buying a console for 1 or 2 games.

Yet you bought a PC, the king of multiplats and no games. I mean if you dont acknowledge console games that are multiplat, then why don't you hold PC to the same standard?

I don't see the sense in buying a $700 system to play old games either when a $300 system is perfectly capable. Ideally you'd buy a $300 PC and use $300 on a platform that actually has games you seem to want to play.

I am sure there is more than 1 or 2 game you are interested in but you know what you like and don't like at the end of the day, I just hope you aren't actively trying to reduce the amount of video games you may be interested in due to platformtism

That some retarded logic.

If you buy an XBONE the same thing applies to half those games you mentioned. Same if you only buy a wii u and you know that 80% of people only buy one console because "muh sony" or "muh nintendo"

If you want to play all those console exclusives, fine by me. I could and still can buy all three consoles but there´s nothing there that interests me that much, maybe bloodborne but that's it. I think people that defend console exclusivity are the kind of people that just like to say "lel I'm playing this and you're not" to feel good about themselves. You know, toddlers.

>forced controller
>usually locked at 30fps
>paid online
>meant to be played on a TV instead of monitor
>no game customization with few exceptions
So no, I don't like playing on consoles. I don't care if PC is 100% multiplats, it's still more enjoyable to me than a console is.

>PC gaming is useless without games, as long as console exclusives exist

PC has more quality exclusives than PS4. Even Wii U has more quality exclusives than PS4.

>consloes
>essentially created the gaming industry
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

Somehow there's poop in my soup and countless other games like it don't quite stack up to xenoblade or smash or whatever.

Do people seriously build a PC say in the last year or so and only play stuff from 2015-2016?

I have a massive backlog of games I need to play and I enjoy my sharp textures and 60fps every time I do.

>How is better performance and customization worthless? I simply don't enjoy playing on consoles, regardless of the games they have.

Seriously, that's your rebuttal to him calling it worthless? As long as you have those stats, like 60fps, 1080p+, etc., you don't care about what you're actually playing?

Do you even enjoy vidya or is it just some sort of elite standard-checking, dick-measuring contest for you?

I dont buy games I just pirate them.

Good leave PC gaming forever and stick to your console you fucking normal person.

Why do they invade my hobby expecting everyone to cater to them?

So your last resort is cherry picking?

That's enough for me I guess. Stay delusional.

>I mean if you dont acknowledge console games that are multiplat, then why don't you hold PC to the same standard?
If a game is also on PC I'll get it on PC. Yes, consoles have multiplats, I'm not denying that, but the only multiplats I get on console are games that aren't on PC, like Bayonetta or Red Dead. If you only play on console than having multiplats on that console is obviously a factor. But it isn't for me personally since I do own a PC for AAA multiplats.

>Windows is Windows, every year it becomes less and less usable
>Linux just isn't viable as an alternative
>think about maybe picking up a PS4 and using that as my main way to play games
>realize no M&K support
>release there is no customization options
>realize I can't try to troubleshoot games by myself
>realize I would be tied to only playing the newest games and the occasional remake
>realize I can't mod the games to suit my needs
>realize I can't have 80+ fov and instead will perpetually feel on the verge of vomiting
>realize I can't try out games before I buy them
>realize I can't pirate them
>realize I can't find good third party deals and reduce costs
>realize there is no comfort in console gaming

The fact that people on here are so obsessed with exclusives kinda show just how bad the systems are.

I just don't understand the priority of PC gamers.

Play both multiplats and exclusives

or

Play just multiplats and miss out on exclusives

The only benefit being you can play multiplats like wacth dogs 2 at higher settings and pay out the ass for it due to parity

I don't understand it

There are literally no good console exclusive (except Bloodborne)

>PC has no exculsives
Next you are going to tell me AAA are the only games being made.

this is fucking bait

Yeah, PC gaming is not worth it. I looked into getting back to PC gaming about 2 to 3 years ago after all the PCMasterrace memes and all I have seen are console ports and toaster tier exclusives so I did not go that route. The only worthwhile exclusives I am missing out are the total war games but I am not a huge fan so whatever.

>who cares about individual quality OUR NUMBER IS BIGGER

There are very few pc exclusives that can even approach console exclusives.

>>Windows is Windows, every year it becomes less and less usable
Are you fucking stupid? Windows has the same usability every year, it doesn't somehow degrade and suddenly it can't play your game.
>Linux just isn't viable as an alternative
11k games and growing

>assblasted

Too scared to senpai

>What are your thoughts on pc vidya
Somewhat similar. I was planning on upgrading when Nvidia released Pascal but it seems I waited too long. Last generation, PC gaming was the definitive way to play multiplatforms. This generation, AAA games have become so safe that the bulk of the releases are visual updates to franchises that were becoming fatigued before last gen was even over.

So I got myself a dirt-cheap gtx 960 and a pre-owned ps3 and have been emulating and playing console exclusives for over a year now and have been loving it. I still want to experience above 1080p/60hz but the cost of the enthusiast PC hardware simply does not justify the range of software available right now.

>As long as you have those stats, like 60fps, 1080p+, etc., you don't care about what you're actually playing?
What? There simply aren't a lot of console exclusives that interest me. Handhelds seem to have better exclusives this gen than PS4 and Xbone.
>Do you even enjoy vidya
Yeah? I have tons of games I enjoy on my Steam account and DOSbox, why would I need a console?

Because here's why
>play 95% of the games in the best possible way because of shit like
Or
>play 5% exclusive games but have a miserable experience for the rest of the 95%

Also. I'll do what I did with the PS3 and 360. Get one when the new generation comes around to catch up on some of the exclusives when they cost like 2 dollars a pop.

I genuinely got my 360 for 30 bucks. Shame it's so awful, if I bought one full priced I would be so mad.

This.

Consoles are simply too restricting, inconvenient and anti-custumer.

I'm not saying that but if you want to talk about good PC exclusives, the sheer majority of them don't need a build that costs more than $300 to run.

It invalidates the very reason to build an expensive gaming PC because if PC exclusives are games a person truly cares about they simply wouldn't have invested so much in shitty AAA multiplats to begin with. It seems far more sensible to build a cheap gaming PC and buy a console for exclusives

The optimal way to do it is buy a gayming PC for AAA multiplats at 60fps and buy consoles for cheap after the gen's over to play any exclusives you missed.

>There are very few pc exclusives that can even approach console exclusives.
Go to the archive and look for "good/successful indie games" threads.

Just because you don't knoe about them doesn't mean they don't exist. Your ignorance is not reality.

I can still play more games than any console can because PC can simply emulate those so called "exclusives."

You never said anything about price.

>Are you fucking stupid? Windows has the same usability every year, it doesn't somehow degrade and suddenly it can't play your game.

With the addition of built in malware and their focus on restricting the users.

Also, with each new Windows generation more and more games become less playable. It's actually surprising how many games are a bit wonky in Win 10.

>11k games and growing
vs like 200k games and growing.

Thereby validating the very reason to buy consoles in the first place by admitting their games are worth playing.

...But not worth playing right now, 10 years down the line through emulations perhaps?

If you like Japanese games obviously PC gaming isn't for you

>How is better performance and customization worthless?

Every single time with you pc shits.

>games? pfft who cares? I got 4k concrete resolution to masturbate to

PCs were never meant to be exclusive for gaming. Rather, the games were just an addition. If you had at least one brain cell, you'd remember that a console IS a computer dedicated solely for gaming.

I like a lot of exclusive PC games (particularly in the simulation and strategy-type genres, but there are also a shit-ton of shmups and arcade-y exclusives too) and I like a lot of multiplats, and I like a lot of emulated games from previous generations and arcades. Having all those games on one system is ideal for me.

Everything is dead. The state of everything is deplorable.

To be fair. Not anymore. Right now consoles are just computers with locked down OS's with a focus on gaming.

To be fair, the doujin scene (and now even Steam) is flooded with JRPGs, STGs, and VNs.

>console IS a computer dedicated solely for gaming
And yet it still has inferior performance, not to mention it's way more restricting and anti-customer.

Go figure.

>Thereby validating the very reason to buy consoles in the first place by admitting their games are worth playing.
The reason why they aren't worth playing is because consoles can't do 1080p and 60 FPS.
>10 years down the line through emulations perhaps?
You can play Wii U games right now if you want, it doesn't take as much time as you think.

Most people don't really care about 60 fps. Look at how well received OoT was, and that was 20 fps.

PC has better porn games.

age 1 is compatible with modern windows, what are you talking about?

Actually, consoles have way better performance than PC. It's just that they have calculator tier hardware.

>You can play Wii U games right now if you want, it doesn't take as much time as you think.

Why woulnt you just get a wiiU at that point? For $300 you can get a wiiU console capable of n64, game cube, wii native emulation and wiiU piracy right off the batt

How much dose it cost to emulate wiiU games on PC?

The biggest Japanese titles still skirt around PC or only get ported 5 years later or the like. It's getting more than ever before but still not enough to dump consoles entirely.

I genuinely can't play OoT.

I can do 30fps if I get accustomed to it. But 25 and lower is just unplayable to me.

Maybe he means without fan mods to the game

>How much dose it cost to emulate wiiU games on PC?
Zero in case you already have a PC.
>Look at how well received OoT was, and that was 20 fps.
Times changes, consoles still struggle with FPS but I can't play games like that anymore. I realize the average person probably doesn't care but it'd be completely unplayable for me.

>You can play Wii U games right now if you want, it doesn't take as much time as you think.

There are like 3 playable games and even they choke so badly on modern systems it's hardly enjoyable.

I don't know. I don't own a current gen console and there aren't really a lot of Japanese games I feel like I'm missing out on.

Bloodborne, maybe Persona 5 but I haven't been able to enjoy 3-4 much since I left high school.

>Zero in case you already have a PC.

If I didn't already have a PC, what kind of specs do I need to emulate wiiU games properly?

There is a shit ton of genres that are either too dead or too niche to get new games on consoles, while they still get new games on PCs thanks to indie devs.

I guess consoles are beter if all you are interested in is mainstream AAA shit.

The highest end specs ever

They're Nintendo games, it basically requires nothing to run them 1080p at solid 60 FPS. I think it mostly depends on your CPU than anything else. dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/

>pretty much all niche Japanese devs are flirting with PC because traditional gaming is dying in Japan and they need to find ways to get by
>Falcom, who used to be one of the biggest Japanese PC devs has all but abandoned PC

It hurts. Especially since unlike all these endless Neptunia and shit their games are actually sort of interesting.

Why can't you have a gaming PC and consoles?

I have an Xbox, Ps2, Ps3, Ps4, gaming laptop, gaming desktop (need repair) a wii and a DS. I own over 500 games. What am I missing here?

Most of them aren't out yet. A large glut of them are coming in Nov-March

Because most people on here are poorfags.

Protip: Most humans are poor. Probably because richfags like you steal their money through scams and they don't even realize it.

Took me years to pull that together. I had a lot more when I was younger and regretfully, sold it off.

Hypothetically, say two people, A and B, both have the same amount of money, and both can afford
>an Xbox, Ps2, Ps3, Ps4, gaming laptop, gaming desktop a wii and a DS and over 500 games

One of them buys all that shit. The other one doesn't. Who's poorer?

With rare exception, everything you sold would be worth even less now, so unless you are a hoarder, you should only regret not selling more off sooner.

Such as? Genuinely curious.

There are a few games, like Nioh and stuff that looks a bit interesting, not "I gotta get a console for this" interesting, but more "it's the end of the generation so I might as well pick up a PS4 now that it's dirt cheap" interesting.

There are lots of great games you haven't played because you only play surface shit or anime faggot shit because you are a faggot, OP.

/thread

I can honestly say that in the past five years I have spent more time on my Amstrad GX4000 than I have on all other consoles combined.

Nigga. I've been a neet for like 5 years. I haven't even touched a next gen console.

But the truth is, had I money, I would get every fucking console I could get my hands on, even if it had fuck all games. Because money.

>11k games and growing

11k of the shittest indie games

Ah, you didn't ask me how I got them!

But now to set you straight.
>Xbox: Craigslist 40 with games
>Ps2: Funcoland trade ins
>PS3: Demons Souls...Paid full price.
>Laptop: Gift )
>Desktop 2000
>Wii garage sale, paid 20 and 25 for the copy of Xenoblade, only game I wanted for it.
>DS: Xmas gift.
>500 games: Steam sales, Markdowns, Garage sales, gift cards trades etc.

Learn how to be a bargainhunterfag like me.

Its not that hard, just have to wait things out sometimes.

That's only true for like the PS2 era forward.

Retro games are more expensive than ever now than it's cool to be a "retro gamer XD".

>indie games
if those are your touted exclusives you have very little going for you

Regret selling that Sega CD and console combo.

Literally fucking this, couldnt put it better

FF15 (I know you know), Last Guardian, Nioh, World of FF, Berserk Musou, Gravity Rush 2, Ace Combat 7.

It may just be that these titles aren't your cup of tea though and you're aware of them but feel like waiting is more justified but some people are probably itching to play a few. After the Nioh Beta it's going to be tough for me to resist getting it day 1 and I almost never get games day 1.

The only way the price would be relevant is if the net cost was negative. Spending money, any amount of money, means you have less money.

False. Tons of pre-PS2 games are dirt cheap. Check out ebay, I just did a quick scan to make sure I wasn't talking shit, loads of dirt cheap NES, SNES, C64 games.

Jelly. My country has a terrible resale market.

At lowest you will find used games at like 20-30 bucks.

>visit Amazon UK and Game
>fuckload of games for 1-2 pounds
If the shipping wasn't so much I would be swimming in old niche titles.

>had I money, I would get every fucking console I could get my hands on, even if it had fuck all games. Because money.
You sound like you're very bad with money

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>Name a game you want to play this gen chances are you can't on pc.
I can play Total War: Warhammer and will be able to play Civilization 6 just fine. How do you think Civ 6 will run on your console my man?

Yes, good indie games are few and far between.

But so are AAA games as a matter of fact.

>Name a game you want to play this gen

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Correct assumption but gifts are a zero-sum property, but everything about gaming is costly. It's not a cheap hobby. I never buy new games on release except for the ones I truly believe in like the Souls series. But I also have a budget, if I can't afford it, I don't undersell or a bad trade for games just to own them. I pass over a lot of games.

Sometimes I think I went to school and got a good job just to keep up with my gaming hobby.

Hmm, just thinking out loud.

you don't have to build a super-high-end-rig to enjoy games.

just build something really meh-tier if you're starting out, with some research being done (look at various discussions and ask around).. Basically you should get something "upgradable", and not be too concerned about performance, The big things are: Case and Power-Supply... don't skimp on these. If you've done research, and neither Intel nor AMD are looking like they're moving on to a new standard "socket" for their motherboards/CPU's, go ahead and get a nice motherboard, otherwise aim lower and cheaper, don't focus on needing a full ATX, a mini-ATX or micro-ATX sized one is enough. just make sure it has at least 1 full PCI-express port on it.

as for CPU and Graphics, do research, look at the CPU's and GPU's coming out, make sure it's not a minor upgrade of last-year's models, and then try to buy the middle-tier, as it's usually the best compromise between price-performance.

play some older games, download some mods, see how you like it... the games generally are cheaper on PC, with Steam and GOG, and even Origin, sales..

so buy a few games, and if you like them/the way they play, start saving

>gaming
>not a cheap hobby
You really don't know what an actual expensive hobby is. Gaming is pretty cheap overall when compared to all other hobbies out there.

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I'm actually very cheap and greedy. I had 4gb's of ram until a month ago because I couldn't justify getting more, only only then did I buy it because it was on sale and I had a coupon.

99% of the items I've bought in the last 2 years have been from China and cost less than 3 bucks. I'd rather wait 2 months than spend 1 buck more and get an item locally.

After 5 years of being an unemployed neet I still have over 1000 bucks left in the bank from when I worked 3 months one summer ages ago.

But, if I had the money to spend, I would get a fuck load of consoles. Video game is my main hobby, I would spend a lot of money there.

>Name a game you want to play this gen chances are you can't on pc

This is a stupid statement for a lot of reasons. For one, PC games aren't really separated into "generations". There are plenty of PC games I want to get that are available currently, and shitloads more that I want to emulate later on, and none of those games are options on consoles without hacking an emulator into it and its way more limited than what I could do on my PC.

There are games I want on just about every platform. I would love to play Rune Factory 4. I would love to play the Muramasa remake on the Vita. I wouldn't mind grabbing Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U. I'm looking forward to one day playing Bloodborne and Disgaea 5 on a PS4. I have like 24 games on my Steam wishlist at this very moment.

If I am going to play every game I "want" I'm going to be dropping shitloads of money on like 4 different consoles. But you know what? Dropping that same money into my PC gets me access to MORE games then buying up all those other consoles would. I have access to shitloads of past games, and I will be able to play games much further into the future thanks to having the option to scale back graphics settings. Not to mention it will cost me less to upgrade down the line if the need arises. And then there is naturally everything else that a computer does better than a console ever will.

Everyone should have a decent PC for gaming, because it's honestly the most cost effective option to have access to the most shit. You can tailor your PC to your exact budget and needs much more so than you can with consoles. And hell, a PC gets you more console games than any single console does anyway.

>I played 350 games in a few years

Your pic is a very apropeit self portrait, I must say only a child would front such an obvious lie or think the five min he spent with each game is "played"

So we both agree then; spending a lot of money makes you poorer than you would be if you didn't spend a lot of money. So it makes no sense to call people who spend less money on less things 'poorfags,' since all other things being equal, they end up with more money than someone else who started with the same balance but bought more shit.

Or to answer the original question more succinctly:

Why can't you have a gaming PC and consoles?
You can, but sometimes it's worth saving money.

At what point did I compare the expense of a gaming hobby against the expense of other hobbies?

>gr8b8m8

>At what point did I compare the expense of a gaming hobby against the expense of other hobbies?
When you called it a cheap hobby.

The real response is "No but I don't like spreadsheet sims"

>gaming is costly. It's not a cheap hobby
>Not comparing gaming to other hobbies
Do you even English?

I didn't know Total War and Civ feature spreadsheets. Do you always get this salty about grapes you can't have console shitter?

But that would make him a faggot.

This is double sided. PCfags think that AAA games are the only exclusives being made, when there's a ton of no name games out there too.

Consolefags think that PC only gets ports when it's the main platform for mmo/moba/fps games.

So you're all wrong. If you like a particular genre, then buy the thing it runs on, don't pretend one is magically better than the other.

My toaster can't run Civ so I play my own version manually in Excel.

>At what point did I compare the expense of a gaming hobby against the expense of other hobbies?
When you said it's a cheap hobby.

"cheap" is relative and dependent on comparison.

i never once asserted I played all of those games

I disagree, it does take expenditure to invest in such properties, ie games, consoles, power, internet connection etc. But it doesn't make me "poorer" for it. It means I have more money invested into it. Everything has a depreciation value to it and I think that the only investment on that list is the steam library, non of those games have a resale value.

If I put the work in I would come out ahead if I sold everything, I mean everything.

You sir/madam know nothing about investment, so please, don't talk to me about poorfags. I never called ANYONE a poorfag. I just asked why he couldn't have both. Some other user ran in with that.

Stupes' I said, "not a cheap hobby." Read, bro, it's fundamental.

All this b8, not enough time.

Civ doesn't play anything like that, and it can run on any toaster. Educate yourself shitter.

>Gravity rush 1/2, odin sphere, persona 5, ffxv, bloodborne, xenoblade x, bayo 1/2, splatoon, halo 5, halo MCC, sm4sh, destiny

if this is the "notable" games this gen, then pc isnt the only gaming platform that's in a deplorable state

Yes, I mean when you said it's not a cheap hobby. My mistake, didn't proofread. In any case, you're a fucking retard that doesn't know how English works.

Then why post the numbers at all?

We both know you where implying it, but after skimming this thread I doubt you have any PC at all

UMADBRO?

Engrish preese: It's not a cheap hobby. Means, exactly what I said: hobby is not cheap, meaning it is expensive.

Learn to read broski.

>You sir/madam know nothing about investment, so please, don't talk to me about poorfags.
Ok, I concede.

Why do you think they're called console fags? Not that PC fags are better.

see and It's ok if English isn't your first language, but that still means you're wrong.

>in the literal sense of backward compatibility, PCs DON'T have it. there are a huge number of old PC games whose executables aren't compatible with new machines (age of empires 1 comes to mind)

While there are fairly "hard" incompatibilities with old PC games, this isn't true, even making a direct comparison to console backwards compatibility.

Console backwards compatibility often relies on software emulation. This is equivalent to running DOSBox to play old games. In fact, PCs have a hardware advantage here- PC processors include special virtualization extensions so old x86 stuff can run at close to full speed. Between emulation and virtualization, PC achieves backwards compatibility (even if it can be inconvenient to access it).

>He thinks 9000 teethbux is a lot

>At what point did I compare the expense of a gaming hobby against the expense of other hobbies?
So it's clear you can't even follow a conversation, since that is what I was addressing. Good luck with your life user, you're going to need it.

>price to play all PC exclusives: $500~1000
>price to play al console exclusives: $300+$300+$300+whatever the price of old consoles

LEL.

I never said it was big money, but I do think making over £1k in less than a year on roughly one third of my portfolio puts me at least a couple of notches above 'knows nothing about investment.'

Also the fact that I don't consider buying videogame hardware and software as any form of 'investment' puts me way ahead of the user I replied to in that regard.

Anything that runs on a graphics API from before DX9 requires some doing to play at good speeds on W8+ AFAIK

Diablo II runs at 24 fps on my shitbox from 3 years ago. Luckily it looks so bad that it doesn't really matter what it runs at.

PC gaming is dying, it is an undeniable truth. Sales are dropping, less and less PCs are being sold, and the developers just flat out don't care for you anymore. The only reason that developers stopped making PC exclusives is because of pirating. I don't blame them, I wouldn't leave my main source of income in the hands of thieving pirates either. Most of the exclusives PC gaming gets these days are poorly designed indie games, and that's only the indie developers using you as a stepping stone because they cannot afford to publish games on consoles. To pay extra money to game exclusively on PC is the most idiotic thing you could possibly do in regards to gaming. Consoles and PC do the exact same thing video-game wise, and you would have to be an oblivious fool not to realize this, and that is exactly what you are if you use PC as your primary platform.

Valve, what Cred Forums proclaims as the savior of PC gaming, has even caved in to their own thirst for money and abandoned the platform of PC. They're making a console because they know that this will stop the pirates from completely destroying their profits. You have nothing left now.

>Not having a PC and your console/handheld of preference.
>Attaching your entire identity to the things you own.
>Doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself that PC has no redeeming qualities aside from graphics.

I use my PC for art, prepping for campaigns, homework, tons of stuff. It's an important tool, so I invested a reasonable amount of money to build my own. As an added benefit, it can play games and I have lots of freedom about what programs I can use. It's nice having that tailored experience.

I buy consoles whenever they get cheaper and the library interests me.

Most stuff runs ok in my experience. Morrowind runs just like it used to on any new windows OS. Same for the Total War games. Only stuff I've had problems with are Civ 3 giving me some fucked up aspect ratio at unsupported resolutions and Max Payne having some weird sound bugs.

Lol

>The only reason that developers stopped making PC exclusives is because of pirating.
Did you not try the new Total War or Hearts of Iron 4? Civ 6 is coming out soon and it's PC exclusive as well.

>PC gaming is dying, it is an undeniable truth. Sales are dropping, less and less PCs are being sold

For me PC gaming is amazing. I jumped on the PC train late last year and have just found an endless supply of vidya to play, and at higher qualities than ever.
This year so far on PC I've beaten:
>Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
>Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc
>Danganronpa 2: Goodbye, Despair
>Final Fantasy X HD
And while I haven't beaten them yet, I've had a lot of fun with:
>Phantom Brave PC
>God Eater Resurrection
>Hyper Light Drifter
>Valkyria Chronicles
>Killer Is Dead
And as far as upcoming games to look forward to, there's:
>Nier Automata
>Tales of Berseria
>Death's Gambit
>OneShot (extended version)
>A Hat in Time
Honestly, PC gaming is amazing, and this is the best time for PC gaming in ever. So many Japanese games that used to not be seen anywhere on PC are now coming in the near truckloads. I don't know how you could find yourself a lack of things to play.
FFXV, Halo 5, and Halo MCC will probably find their way on PC eventually.

I got a 980ti rig with skylake, with a 144hz monitor. Yet, most of the time is sinking towards Super Robot Wars OG:MD for ps4. Persona 5, Tales, will follow suite. PC is just an expensive internet tool.

>"look at all these games you can't play on PC"
>proceeds to list majority weebshit, or in some cases just regular old shit

only good game on that list is bayonetta 2, and i've already got a wii u

>Replying to pasta
>Using Nvidia stock as a metric for PC gaming
You do know that PC sales aren't directly related to Nvidia stock price, right? And that's even without considering the Nvidia tech in non-PC devices.

That said, PC gaming evidently isn't dying. You just have worthless metrics.

Morrowind is DX9. You've gotta go back to say 2000 or earlier, then you start running into issues. Same games Just Work somehow though, especially if they have a software renderer like Deus Ex

Most exclusives this year came to PC
Most exclusive games this gen or last gen has the PC
Most game ever that are playable on hardware sold in 2013 or later is the PC

PS4 has
>Bloodborne
Xbone has
>Halo MCC

If any of those games are worth extra $300 to you then go ahead, get a console, otherwise you can just play multiplats with the best performance while having all the benefits of having a PC. If you alread have a PC, the choice is even easier, just buy a $200 GPU and slap it in your PC.

You overvalue unreleased exclusives and don't care about what you're actually playing on consoles. You don't enjoy vidya, it's just some elite dick-measuring contest of who has the most exclusives for you.

>he doesn't play grand strategy, 4x, city builder, roguelike, RTS, point n click, god games, programming games, or any of the other dozen patrician genres with literally no console presence

Sorry you have shit taste? Maybe you should have just stuck to consoles since you love AAA DLC shitfest garbage so much

arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/01/dont-look-now-but-the-pc-is-the-worlds-biggest-gaming-platform/

>Most exclusives this year came to PC
>Most exclusive games this gen or last gen has the PC
But they're indies so no one cares. A PC exclusive isn't really an exclusive unless it requires a good GPU to run. If it can run on any intel integrated shitter then any consolefag can run it on their PC since only normalfags don't have a PC.

>in the literal sense of backward compatibility, PCs DON'T have it. there are a huge number of old PC games whose executables aren't compatible with new machines (age of empires 1 comes to mind)

imagine being this fucking stupid

brb while i play another game of lucasart's 1996 groundbreaker Afterlife in DOSBOX

A ton of those games didn't even come out in 2015 and some won't even make 2016

>you dont acknowledge console games that are multiplat, then why don't you hold PC to the same standard?

Because PC has the largest pool of multiplats, when 99% of games coming out this gen are multiplat, and they have the best performance and customization options (ie input schemes) on PC.

You have to be a completely retarded child to buy a console for multiplats. I can't being stuck playing shit like Overwatch and Witcher on consoles.

>PC Gaming is dying

how many times have i heard this, and how long, 2008? 2010?

Also, Hiro is thinking of implementing IDs and ban e-celebs, the two most voted change by Cred Forums so sayonara you meme-loving fucks

>DOSBOX
This is not BC. This is emulation

Without reading the article I can't comment on the quality of the metrics, but it's almost a year out of date so it's still worthless.

Surely it's only harmful to our position (that PC gaming isn't dying) when you use irrelevant or outdated information to 'prove' our point? Stop doing that.

Don't forget RPGs.

>But they're indies so no one cares. A PC exclusive isn't really an exclusive unless it requires a good GPU to run. If it can run on any intel integrated shitter then any consolefag can run it on their PC since only normalfags don't have a PC.

That's a fucking retarded argument. If it's on PC it's on PC.

What a fucking stupid image.
>DaSIII is suddenly THE benchmark for performance and graphics, even though FROM are some of the most incompetent devs when it comes to ports
>modding is dead because I don't know what I'm talking about, enbs aren't mods because arbitrary reasons
>MW2 didn't have dedicated servers, so therfore no PC games does (lol what are server browsers)
>RTS games are dead because I say so/don't know any better/I'm shit at RTS
>no counter to better FPS games because it's true
>muh price
>"fps doesn't matter" fucking lmao
>every steam game is indie shit, lol what are steam sales
Seriously what stupid faggot wrote this shit?

>Thread IDs

Fucking finally

>it's not a PC exclusive unless it requires expensive hardware to run

Rio is over, you can stop with the olympic winning mental gymnastics now.

2/10 got me to reply

Where's your proof that PC gaming is in fact dying?
And since you think my link is outdated I expect yours to be within the last week

Off topic, but when I saw DETROIT at E3 I thought it would be a modern update of this classic:
ifiction.org/games/playz.php?cat=&game=232&mode=html

Basically, it's a text game where you get 1 move. You start the game, make 1 action, watch what transpires, and that's it. The game is over. The content comes from having hundreds of possible verbs implemented. It seemed from the trailer that this game would be just the one short scenario, but with like a hundred branching endings, like a AAA version of The Stanley Parable. Turns out it's just another fucking boring movie disguised as a game.

Why can't people ever take a risk and make something cool?

>halo 5

But the only worthwhile part of it is on PC now

>But they're indies so no one cares.

Unless its exclusive on console, then suddenly it's indieshit worth bragging about.

Console fanboys are hands down the dumbest motherfuckers out there

It isn't a dumb argument, it's a practical one. Does it matter if Risk of Rain is PC exclusive if I can play it on a PC from 6 years ago? No. Everyone in the western world has at least that, no matter whether they're consolefags or PCfags. It gets you nothing over consolefags to have that game since they have it too.

I don't care what you call it fag. Show me how you can play PS1 games on your PS4. Oh you can't hahahaha

>PS4 has Bloodborne but I don't like Souls games so basically PS4 has no exclusives.

>But they're indies so no one cares.
>i-it doesn't count b-because I say so!
Just fuck off already. Plenty of indie titles are better than most games AAA industry shits out these days.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I have agreed with twice that PC gaming isn't dying, including the post you replied to.

>our position (that PC gaming isn't dying)
>our point

>PC gaming evidently isn't dying

I realise that starting with 'get better metrics' is a bit advanced for you. First of all, learn to read.

PC gamers: depressed from too many options
Console gamers: happy to only have a few

Why is humanity such a disappointment?

It was never a practical argument. It's the literal definition of a double standard fallacy. You don't get to arbitrarily decide games exclusive to a platform are no longer exclusive to fit your bias narrative.

...

I fucking guarantee you're the faggot who gets mad when PCfags (wrongfully) dismiss the PS4 library as "weebshit".

In the mind of a sonygger, an unreleased exclusive they can't play is better than games that people already can play and run better on PC.

Yes it is and your fucking braindead for insisting it isn't. What are these low spec games considered then? If they're not PC games? What magical non-existent machine are they running on? What do they get identified as?

"We can't call this a PC game because it doesn't require a brand new video card."

You're picking a really dumb hill to die on.

No it really doesn't. If it's indie it'll be on PC eventually, you just wait. Indies aren't worth paying for.

Like doesn't enter into it. I can run Risk of Rain right now even though I'm a consolefag. It isn't a real exclusive.

It doesn't count because consolefags can play them

In platformwars, exclusives are about exclusion. "I don't have a gaming PC so I can't play X" or "I don't have a PS4 so I can't play Y"

No one is excluded from playing pixelshit indie except phonefags.

Why? PS4 has two games currently and one is weebshit

They're plebPC games. Not Gaming PC games.

>data becomes invalid within a year
>even though nothing major has happened to the gaming industry within that time that could possibly alter sales

Risk of Rain isn't even PC exclusive dude.

The whole "it's only PC exclusive if it runs on high end PCs" doesn't hold up when you have console faggots claiming they can run Civ V at max on a huge map with 12 ais with a 6 year old laptop. You don't have a leg to stand on.

> Does it matter if Risk of Rain is PC exclusive if I can play it on a PC from 6 years ago?
Yes.

>Everyone in the western world has at least that, no matter whether they're consolefags or PCfags.
Buying a relatively good PC will be cheaper than buying a shitty PC and a console.

Stop being retarded.

>nothing major has happened to the gaming industry within that time that could possibly alter sales
Except for almost a year's worth of sales, you mean.

>Indies aren't worth paying for
I spent around $50 on the game Freedom Planet and I feel that it was money well spent

>Uncharted 4 isn't a PS4 exclusive because It doesn't require a PS4 pro, I can just run it on my old PS4

Your laptop is a PC, deal with it, cretin.

Is GTA 5 finally on pc or do i have to sign another petition

The Sony marketing department is spinning up for the Holidays it looks like

Again, so? They're still using a PC. It's exclusive to PC.

>In platformwars, exclusives are about exclusion.

In the real world, exclusives are about whether you can play it on more than one platform. If you can only play a game on a single platform, it's defacto exclusive.

You don't get to twist the definition of exclusive to fit your console war driven narrative where any games that don't require an expensive graphics card is automatically "pixelshit indie"

>he thinks all indie is pixelshit
It's evident you don't even fucking know what you are talking about.

This post reeks of butthurt.

Vidya has been sucking in general. I love my pc to death, but if you take a look at consoles, only the Wiiu has a few good games. PS4 has "a lot" of weaboo trash (good for them), but i don't like them.

Just play the old classics and mod them to death

It's on PC but you might want to pre-emptively sign a GTA6 petition just in case.

>It doesn't count because consolefags can play them

Not without a PC.

>B...but that doesn't fit my warped personal definition of a PC

>Risk of Rain isn't even PC exclusive dude.
It's a hypothetical. I can't be assed to look up whether the game is or is not on Vita or some obscure platform.

>The whole "it's only PC exclusive if it runs on high end PCs" doesn't hold up when you have console faggots claiming they can run Civ V at max on a huge map with 12 ais with a 6 year old laptop.
Can they? Then it isn't a PC exclusive. I know I could run Civ4 on an intel integrated shitter from 8 years ago

>Buying a relatively good PC will be cheaper than buying a shitty PC and a console.
Consolefags only buy prebuilts. Prebuilt shitter+console is cheaper than Prebuilt "good"

Then I guess I qualify as the PEECEE MASTUR RACE, right? No? Aww why not?

But we're not in the real world, we're on Cred Forums. And Cred Forums is platformwars all the time every time.

Then there's no point in hyping "PC gaming" since literally anyone in the western world can boot up some indie game and be a "PC GAMER"

It's a fun added derision. I enjoy many pixelshit indies.

Or a master troll.

All consolefags are PC gamers then.

>They're plebPC games
>Not Gaming PC games.

This isn't a real distinction because they're still fucking PC games. It's redundant and assinine to count only certain games as "Gaming X games". You're a complete idiot.

Think of it like a flowing river. Instead of water, it's video game titles. New shit gets released ever year and the old stuff flows out of it into the seas. It's the river's natural state. A description of what the river was like 1 year ago is in all likelihood still an accurate description of what the river is like today. If you're coming along and claiming it isn't, then it's up to you to prove that's the case.

>Then I guess I qualify as the PEECEE MASTUR RACE, right? No? Aww why not?
Sure, go ahead and apply on /reddit/

>This isn't a real distinction because they're still fucking PC games. It's redundant and assinine to count only certain games as "Gaming X games". You're a complete idiot.
Then tell me how someone with an Intel integrated card is excluded from being "PC master race"

>It's a fun added derision. I enjoy many pixelshit indies.
Which doesn't mean all indie games are pixelshit.

Have fun playing things like Grim Dawn on your shitty PC.

This is weaponized autism.

I love my PC!

I never said anything about "PC Master Race" you fucking chode.

>Which doesn't mean all indie games are pixelshit.
Pixelshit indie is a subset of indie that will run on iGPUs because of shitty pixel art graphics, not intended to include all indie.

Generally MASTER RACE garbage describes someone who is using better hardware, yeah.

So no, that person wouldn't be considered a member of the PC master race but it doesn't change the fact that the game is a PC exclusive.

Its not that pc gaming getting old and stale, its just OP getting old and stale.

Then your whole argument is redundant, since PC still gets exclusives that won't run on shitty PCs that even consolefags own.

Go ahead and post it running Warhammer Total War :)

PC gaming is fun!

>it's not a real PC exclusive if it's indie

>it's not a real PC exclusive if it's a dead genre (aka genre missing from modern consoles)

Do consoletards have any idea how retarded they sound?

I am absolutely claiming otherwise (not when it comes to literal rivers, but when it comes to hardware and software sales).

Actually, I'm claiming otherwise when it comes to rivers as well. Ever heard of floods and droughts? Those are just extreme examples; rivers don't flow at a uniform constant rate, river levels rise and fall all the time, etc etc.

But throw all that away and for the sake of argument we'll agree your position is reasonable (it isn't, it's retarded). You still have a year of missing data, so your position is based purely on assumption. Put another way, the data you have does not describe the situation user claimed it described. Year-old data is worthless when describing the current state of most things, certainly things like markets and industries. Pretending otherwise is dishonest or just plain dumb.

>Do consoletards have any idea how retarded they sound?
nope

When you call someone a consolefag, you are implying you belong to the PC master race.

If they can run the game without being part of the master race then it is not an exclusive because it is meaningless in the platform wars. It exists in a realm of liminality where both consolefags and master race have access to it.

Yes but far less compared to the huge lists of indie games that are PC "exclusive"

Not the "RTS is dead" guy but RTS is dead on PC as well.

Consoletards are normies who play AAA only.

Go figure.

There are so many great games to play!

>PC games that run exclusively on PC aren't PC games because I say they are.

>When you call someone a consolefag, you are implying you belong to the PC master race.

No. You're literally fucking retarded.

>PC exclusives are bad meme

I dunno, how many people on Cred Forums have put 1000 hours into Mountain Blade?

While console games like Xenoblade & Purse owner are kind of just a play once & never play again thing

Even these indie games are high quality!

No, because I am a consolefag and I can play them.

Then you have no grounds of superiority over them with which to deride them

>I can't be assed to look up whether the game is or is not on Vita or some obscure platform.

So you're admitting the PS4 is an obscure platform? Because it's on PS4.

You couldn't be arsed to look it up but you still decided to argue about it and pretend to know what the fuck you're talking about when you clearly don't.

>Can they? Then it isn't a PC exclusive.
Civ V is objectively a PC exclusive even if you can run it well on an iGPU, which you can't.

You are a primo example of why console warriors have such a bad reputation and are rightfully considered idiots by the rest of the gaming community.

>Then you have no grounds of superiority

I do because you're completely fucking retarded which you are derided for. Literally everyone else here is superior to your dumb ass.

This. OP isn't describing a problem with PC. He's describing a problem with gaming in general. I have three older cousins, all upper-middle class with small children ages 8-12. These kids can basically afford whatever consoles they want and their parents buy it for them because they were themselves into gaming a few decades ago. I'll describe what each of them plays:

One is addicted to her mincecraft app on iPad and plays little else. She owns a 3DS but literally never touches it. All she owns for it is shovelware and Luigi's Mansion, which she seldom plays.

One owns a PS4 and buys little other than yearly sports releases on it. He grew up playing app games on his iPhone and little else can hold his attention for long. Doesn't own a single shooter, FPS, RPG, Action/Adventure game, literally just NHL games and Madden. It's Maddening to try to talk about games with him. He owned a Wii when he was a little younger but only ever owned shovelware for it and Wii Sports.

The last one owns a Wii U and a PS4. He is the most spoiled of the bunch but doesn't even touch either console ever. He owns a bucnh of FPS games but prefers to play god knows what on his iPhone and iPad.

None of these kids has ever used a PC for gaming, or fallen in love with AAA gaming titles like I did at their age (I beat Ocarina of Time the year it came out at age 7 and have basically only played AAA for as long as I can remember, whether it was on consoles or PC). I very much doubt they have even bought a physical game of their own volition that wasn't a gift from their parents. They simply aren't interested in anything that requires a significant investment of time and an attention span longer than that of a fly. The gaming industry is in big trouble now that these kids that grew up on mobile are reaching adolescence. The iPhone 1 came out in 2007, which was already 9 years ago. It isn't just PC that's in dire straights nowadays, it's the entire industry catering to Generation Z.

>You couldn't be arsed to look it up but you still decided to argue about it and pretend to know what the fuck you're talking about when you clearly don't.
It doesn't matter which game I picked. I'm using it as a quick access game that any toaster can run. Too many indies are ported to console to keep track of it all.

>Civ V is objectively a PC exclusive even if you can run it well on an iGPU, which you can't.
If I could run it well on an iGPU it wouldn't be, because I am a consolefag, and a PC exclusive must EXCLUDE me.

Then call me retarded and not a consolefag. Consolefag implies there is something inferior about my choice of gaming platform, not my intellectual faculties.

Yeah, you can, doesn't change the fact that you can't play it on a console.

Based on your retarded logic, I can insist that games I can emulate are no longer exclusive to their respective console because I have access to them along with console players.

How do I play Ninja Gaiden Black and Red Dead Redemption on PC?

What about Bloodborne? Or Bayonetta 2?

I spent $2000 on my computer, and I want to play these games.

Oh what's that?

I can only play assfaggots and The Division in 4k? Oh shit.

Old and new, there's always something to play on PC!

>frogposter is dumb
Figures.

Dumb frogposter.

You admitted you were a consolefag and you are retarded. So it's fair to call you a retarded consolefag who is inferior.

PC is still outstripping consoles. You can clearly see it with the increasing number of console games coming to PC, the increasing similarity in console and PC hardware, the incredible popularity of multiplayer PC games and the number and size of PC games tournaments.

Handhelds are better than home consoles right now. Consoles have some good exclusives but I'd rather be playing on PC than consoles. Most games on both are simply better on PC and me buying a 400 dollar machine for 4-5 games isn't worth it to me.

>Implying even Console fags want to replay RDR by whipping out the old PS3

You miss the butthurt when no remaster was announced?

>Based on your retarded logic, I can insist that games I can emulate are no longer exclusive to their respective console because I have access to them along with console players.
You are correct. Games that can be emulated are no longer exclusives--de facto, because PC master race can play them without resorting to owning the console they are on. Exclusives are about EXCLUSION. They have to exclude to be exclusives.

And sometimes when they're REALLY new, they look really pretty too!

I could play that on my ps2 14 years ago.

You waited that long to play it?

Truly the master race, eh?

>How do I play Ninja Gaiden Black and Red Dead Redemption on PC

You can't play either of those games on your PS4 last I checked.

>Or Bayonetta 2?

See above

I agree with you OP. PC only users wont admit it though. They have spent too much money on their PCs to accept they fucked up.

But I didn't before then when I was called a consolefag but was still acting retarded.

I use DOSBox and Kega for 90% of my gaming needs these days. Everything is basically shit. There's no reason to buy anything -- not consoles, not new PC hardware. It's all a crapshoot waste of money. All the good studios were bought out and destroyed, and Konami is out there making pachinko eroge. What in the ever living fuck.

Yeah, its awesome! It has all the content of Disgaea DS and Disgaea PSP with higher resolution character artwork! And now soon I'll get to play Disgaea 2 PC as well!

The only souls game I missed was bb, wasn't a fan of the setting. Destiny was lackluster, halo burnt out after 3. Might buy the new Nintendo console for the new Zelda or something. I ended up borrowing a friends ps4 for one day to finish the new ratchet and clank campaign in one day, definitely fun but not worth buying a ps4 for 10 hours of gameplay. I enjoy a massive library on PC, no frame drops, incredible graphics. Sure, I'll buy a secondary console when I see a game worth playing. Right now I'm just soaking in Witcher 3 @ 1440p, really fun. Might try my hand at some of the RTS's I've missed out on due to my old pc and I might play some emulated classics or indie hits. Who knows. The one thing about PC that gets me is the library is intimidating, dunno what I'll play next. In conclusion, the platform is the best fit for me. Pick your poison shitlords.

Year-old data doesn't prove any of that in any way.

Once again:

I agree PC gaming isn't dying, but it makes no sense to use irrelevant or outdated information to try and prove it.

Sony has been nonstop shilling lately. It's hilarious how many anti-modding posts are popping up after the Fallout 4 thing.

Undertale - Great game loved by all of Cred Forums and /vg/. Ended up as a classic gem people will talk about for years to come.

Uncharted - Forgotten after a week

Really makes you think.

>Undertale - Great game loved by all of Cred Forums

>It doesn't matter which game I picked

It does when you're making an argument about how exclusives are not actually exclusives. You used a multiplat as an example of an exclusive and instead of owning up to your ignorance you tried to excuse it as a "hypothetical" which makes no sense.

>If I could run it well on an iGPU it wouldn't be,
You couldn't, and yes it still would be. Civ V is objectively an exclusive because you need a PC in order to run it. Your exclusion memes hold no water.

>I am a consolefag
>Consolefag implies there is something inferior about my choice of gaming platform

So you admit there is something inferior about your choice of gaming platform

Yeah, I also played it on PS2 when it came out. That doesn't mean that people don't play old games anymore. People still play old games and something coming to PC just adds to people's backlogs.

>$6,000 PC
>cherry picking this fucking hard
And yet consolefags still wonder why everyone treats them like retarded children.

>But I didn't before then
Yes you did. Literally in that same fucking post you said "I am a consolefag" verbatim. You said it before then too

Meanwhile while I wait, I can get to finishing Phantom Brave, another really awesome game on PC!

UC4 looks like dogshit in that environment

But user he was only pretending to be retarded! That proves you and all the PCfags are retarded because he tricked you into thinking he was retarded!

We have data and you don't. We have the proof and really you just refuse to accept it. PC gaming is still the superior platform and it's still more popular than consoles.

It's still making more money and things haven't changed significantly in the last year. Nothing has changed for consoles. The thing that could change it is the upgraded xbox and ps4 but the chances of that happening are pretty slim.

Looking at the data and simply closing your eyes doesn't change it.

Welp, I was going to upgrade my PC but then this thread made me realize that there are Zero (0) games to look forward to.

The fuck happened?

Ah, PC gaming is such a wonderful treat

>It does when you're making an argument about how exclusives are not actually exclusives. You used a multiplat as an example of an exclusive and instead of owning up to your ignorance you tried to excuse it as a "hypothetical" which makes no sense.
Just imagine I picked an indie game not on consoles. It isn't hard.

>You couldn't, and yes it still would be. Civ V is objectively an exclusive because you need a PC in order to run it. Your exclusion memes hold no water.
"Something is an exclusive even though it isn't really exclusive to PC master racers"
--You
Maka no sense to me, sir. What MEANING is there to a PC exclusive if I can play it?

>So you admit there is something inferior about your choice of gaming platform
No shit, anyone with a brain can tell PC is better when most games are FREE.

But I did not say it before the first time I was called a consolefag. A humanoid chose to attack my retardation as my platform choice instead of my retardation.

You got tired of gaming and you have poor taste

>You can't play either of those games on your PS4 last I checked.
In what way did I imply I even owned a PS4? I'm just saying the best games of all time have been exclusives to either a company (i.e. only sega or sony consoles) or a single platform.

Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy IX, Streets of Rage, Ninja Gaiden Black, Bloodborne, No One Lives Forever, Virtua Fighter 4

Without exclusives or money for exclusives, you get watered down shit like your average power fantasy or annual franchise title multiplat. When you're spread thin, you lose quality in order to appeal to mass demographics. With exclusives, you have to impress and are focusing on one ecosystem. What would you rather play? Bloodborne or Far Cry 4?

>he's not excited for Tales of Berseria
>he's not excited for Nier Automata

You are a dumb frogposter is all.

THEY'RE MAKING A NIER SEQUEL?

Wait, you didn't know? Yes!
youtube.com/watch?v=ARHVKZ5K1b0
youtube.com/watch?v=Iq3_phBQA_Y
youtube.com/watch?v=StXRi5zPPjk

But i can play those on my PS4 and i get a physical edition as well.

Also most games on Steam are now 60$ so price isn't even an excuse anymore and games use DENUVO so i can't pirate them.

>caring about Tales series - the definition of mediocrity
>caring about buttonmashing low skill ceiling shit for console kiddies

Rather just play iRacing

How can you not like someone this crazy?

>Streets of Rage, Ninja Gaiden Black, Virtua Fighter 4

You realize these are ports right? Two of them are from arcades.

The best games of all time have been exclusive is a lie you have to tell yourselves because outside of lazyness the only reason to own a console these days are for exclusives. You overvalue exclusives to the point where you attach quality to games that aren't even released yet and rationalize your console purchase just to await "greatness".

>Without exclusives or money for exclusives, you get watered down shit like your average power fantasy or annual franchise title multiplat.

>he actually think all the money AAA industry makes goes into game development
Get real.

THEY'RE MAKING A NIER SEQUEL? Woah and it's coming to windows this time? I wonder if this means a nier port to pc. Doubt square has time with their lineup atm but still. Fucking that game man. Hidden gem.

Performance is still better on PC for the vast majority of games. Why would I play on PS4 if I can play it on PC?

What reason could I possibly have to do so?

We awaited greatness. Now only 400 more dollars for it

No he's right. There really isn't shit to look forward too unless you're 13 and easily impressed

>The state of PC gaming is deplorable. Sure you get forward/backward compatibility, 60 fps, any controller, free online, you name it. But do you know what you don't get? The only part that really matters, the games. Name a game you want to play this gen chances are you can't on pc. Gravity rush 1/2, odin sphere, persona 5, ffxv, bloodborne, xenoblade x, bayo 1/2, splatoon, halo 5, halo MCC, sm4sh, destiny etc. - if you're pc only you miss almost every notable game of the gen. The pc exclusive genres like rts and mmo are basically dead, and shoddy console ports of 5-10 year old games abound.

Well you know keep paying sony/microshaft to build you a little gaming pc for you and everyone else can keep not getting any exclusives on PC.

However none of the aforementioned titles are enough for me to want to buy into their jew schemes of consoles that now need to be replaced every 2 years. (for best quality gameplay goy)

tl;dr supporting sony/xbox is literally worse than supporting nvidya/razer atm.

>What would you rather play? Bloodborne or Far Cry 4?
Neither.

Denuvo online check. Denuvo servers go down, your game goes down forever. At least a disc based PS4 ver will still work

But you won't have as much control over how they look and will have to move from your computer to play them. Plus when the PS4 gets replaced it'll probably not be backwards compatible, but hat will probably not be an issue anytime soon on PC.
Though if physical is important to you then PS4 definitely is the way to go

>Just imagine I picked an indie game not on consoles. It isn't hard.
Apparently it is for you, since you couldn't actually cite one. Don't ask me to imagine an argument for you just because you couldn't make one

>"Something is an exclusive even though it isn't really exclusive to PC master racers"
>--You

I didn't actually say that, nice strawmen though. Why are you shitposting?

>What MEANING is there to a PC exclusive if I can play it?
It means you need a PC to play it. Just like console exclusive means you need a console to play it. It isn't hard.

>, you get watered down shit like your average power fantasy
That explains why the most popular exclusives on your console are power fantasies.

what happened is all pc gets are shoddy belated console ports now, so you might as well play the games when they come out on console

so if your computer can emulate games up to the wii with acceptable graphical fidelity there is no reason to upgrade ever

Name five games to look forward to that will come out in the next 6 months.

You have 3 days to answer.

No, you are just an ignorant retard who can't be bothered to do his research.

Did you also stop listening to music altogether when Justin Bieber used to be popular?

Look in the past. Why were the best games always exclusive?

Either exclusive to pc, exclusive to ps2, exclusive to gamecube, exclusive to nes, exclusive to genesis, exclusive to dreamcast?

When exclusives died at the beginning of this gen, the only shit released has been garbage.

The PC has some of the best games out there too!

>But I did not say it before the first time I was called a consolefag

Yes you did > I can run Risk of Rain right now even though I'm a consolefag.

Stop backpeddaling you braindead consolefag.

>The pc exclusive genres like rts and mmo are basically dead,

>you need to upgrade every 2 years for best quality gameplay goy

for pc you can take that statement but replace 2 years (actually 3, the ps4 came out in 2013) with 1 year

>Apparently it is for you, since you couldn't actually cite one.
Too lazy to find one since everything gets ported to consoles because indiefags want to make a quick buck

>Don't ask me to imagine an argument for you just because you couldn't make one
All you have to do is have some intellectual honesty and know that such games do exist. They help your master race cause anyway so there's no reason for you to deny them.

>I didn't actually say that, nice strawmen though. Why are you shitposting?
That is what you said, just rephrased.

>It means you need a PC to play it.
The problem with this is, the bar is too low. It's a useless term, because everyone has a PC.

You know how hackers sometimes attack the servers of services like PSN to make them go down? How come no one attacks Denuvo to demonstrate how flawed it is as a form of DRM?

If PC is so great, then why don't the Japanese game on PC?

Nier Automata at the very least

My PC from PS4 launch still has better performance than the PS4 PRO

They should. But the check in is monthly so not many would notice since it'd be back up by then

That would be an alright reason if it actually happened. Besides that Denuvo is still a minority in game titles. More games don't have it than do.

Again, why would I play games on PS4 that I can play on PC? What's the best reason you have for playing games on PS4 instead of on PC?

>console platforms bribe or use contracts to lock developers from putting their games on PC

>"Guys, consoles are so much better! :^)"

If exclusives translated directly to quality PC would be the only console anyone would ever need.
>"Oh goodness guys we might sell twice as much of this game now that its multiplat lets just make it shit."

The best games are exclusives to make you BUY CONSOLES because they know the games are above average and PAY devs for the rights, so you need an xbox for this and a new ps4+ for that. Wake up. Stop supporting jews.

It depends on what you like. What games do you usually play?

But they do! More Japanese games are being made available to the Japanese on PC than ever! (Danganronpa 1&2 and Neptunia recently got Japanese version updates, and most if not all NISA games and D3 Publisher games are available to the Japanese)There's even porn artists gaming on PC! Fuck I wish I could remember the name of the guy. Some Japanese artist with an avatar of Stocking that plays Disgaea PC a lot

Because very few japanese companies know how to make a good game. The exceptions do come to PC. Pic related

>That would be an alright reason if it actually happened.
You have to hedge your risk. You don't know if it'll ever happen.

>More games don't have it than do

Obviously you buy the Denuvo games for console but pirate everything else.

>Again, why would I play games on PS4 that I can play on PC? What's the best reason you have for playing games on PS4 instead of on PC?
The Denuvo reason is the only reason, or if you have an issue with the game on your PC and it crashes no matter what you do and so you refund it and buy the console ver.

>Nier Automata at the very least
Why? Everything seen from it thus far looks painfully average, casual, and it's made by Platinum, whose only ok game was Vanquish. Everything else was either style over substance or no style, no substance

I highly doubt Nier Automata will be better than Ninja Gaiden Black.

He said Japanese, not Japanese games. As in, he's asking why the Japanese aren't playing on PC.

so? your argument was that releasing something better is jewy because you must buy it "for best quality gameplay goy"

Clarification: They don't know how to make a good game on a technical level, meaning that PC ports would be too hard or shit. (Dark Souls 1)

Vanquish, Nioh and Bayonetta are not on PC. You're just in wishful thinking land where every game that is good happens to come to PC. It doesn't work like that. Chance, life, the world doesn't work like that. Sometimes good games get on shit platforms.

It won't fit on a train and Japanese work all day so they spend no time at home except to eat and sleep

How come you can't play YS VIII or Shiren the Wanderer on PC?

What about Nioh? Or Zelda Breath of the Wild? Or Vanquish? Or Yakuza?

>ARMA 3
>DOTA 2
>Hearts of Iron 3
>DOOM
>DIABLO 2

I want to ask PC Gaymurs a question.

When it comes to the NX, what will you do?

I actually buy my games and to be honest the only Denuvo game that looks interesting to me is TW Warhammer. Even then I wouldn't buy it because it's massively overpriced, has very little content and it already has massively overpriced DLC.

Denuvo doesn't seem like a very good reason to play games on PS4 since consoles are DRM in and of themselves. It's DRM that costs 400 dollars.

>Zelda Breath of the Wild

CEMU

my argument was console exclusives and gimmicks are more jewy than better pc parts released yearly

I'm not the same user. Just pointing out your argument that PC needs to be replaced every year is false.

shake my head in disbelief at Nintendo and wonder why they just don't stick to 3ds games

You just like casual shit thats not pcs fault
The hardest most competitive games are on pc.
Also consoles perform like shit

>Ys VIII, Shiren the Wanderer, Nioh, Vanquish, and Yakuza
Because they are Japanese games made with consoles in mind first. You'll likely be able to play them on PC before long too! In fact, I'd bet Shiren the Wanderer especially will be on PC before summer of next year!
>Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Because its a first party Nintendo game. Being Nintendo's very own game, it doesn't make any business sense to release the game on PC. It would take away from the sales of their console!

If Mobile is so shit, then why do the Japanese game on mobile more than anything else?

>Or Zelda Breath of the Wild?
Because Nintendo makes the hardware for that game you stupid fuck.

>built in malware
Go back to your Cred Forums tinfoil hat linux threads.

It isn't really about the DRM for me, it's about assurance that I will be able to play the game in the future. If there was a form of DRM that assured me that the game would work for 70 years, no interruptions, no problems, no breaking fraps or things like that, I'd be fine with it, because it wouldn't be harming me. That is for the most part console disc DRM. Sure your PS4 may die but there have been enough made that you will pretty much alwasy be able to find one for your lifetime. The disc will die but not for 70 years or so as long as you don't destroy it yourself.

>If Mobile is so shit
It's not shit. Most mobile games are gameplay-focused

>has to list games from three different consoles to make a point about exclusives

>Too lazy to find one since everything gets ported to consoles because indiefags want to make a quick buck

There you go making excuses again for your laziness and ignorance. And you're telling me I need intellectual honesty?

>All you have to do is have some intellectual honesty

That's incredibly ironic coming from you. You've been intellectually dishonest this entire thread. Case in point:
>That is what you said, just rephrased.
Why are you rephrasing it? Because you know that's not what I said, you put words in my mouth. You're an intellectually dishonest shitposter using strawmen.

>The problem with this is, the bar is too low.
Hot opinion you got there. Too bad it doesn't mean shit when the objective fact is Civ V is PC exclusive

You've been completely demolished in the argument, you don't have a leg to stand on. At this point you're just replying for the (You)s, so it's safe to disregard you as a shitposting retarded.

Because those Japanese are shit humans. Good Japanese play on console or handheld except those fucking Neptuniafags and whoever plays all these shitty games that are about looking at hot bitches rather than gameplay or even story

but >muh graphics

>2016
>wanting weeb garbage on PC

ah i see

yes it is false, and I did it to show him how stupid his argument was

>Most mobile games are microtransaction-focused

Fixed

Why am I not suprised to see neo Cred Forums defending mobile games? This whole board only exists for shitposting now.

I thought most mobile games were Gacha focused

>not building a dedicated Cred Forums browsing machine

You dun fucked up.

>No true Japanese plays on mobile

My old nintendo games already don't work because the batteries are dead but they work just fine on my PC because of emulation.

Discs also don't last forever and from what I read 30 years seems to be one report for CD life. The price and scarcity of older game consoles is also a limiting factor. Already if you want to play some N64 games you'd be lucky to find copies now for a good price.

PS2s, Xboxes and Gamecubes are relatively cheap and easy to find because they're not that old however the prices for unopened games are still quite high and the prices for even opened copies can be 20 dollars.

Nothing lasts forever and consoles are still an inferior platform for preserving the past.

I have a question for pc gaymurs. When your game runs like shit or doesn't turn on, what do you do?

I try turning it off and back on again. I change the in-game graphics settings to see if that fixes it. I go into the Steam forums and see if others are having the same problems and if fixes have been found. I sometimes make threads pointing them out myself.

Spend 5 minutes looking up a fix or download a patch to get it working again.

When console games run like shit or crashes there's literally nothing I can do except wait for the console maker to allow the devs to patch it

>all that japtrash

Get a refund.

Can't do that with console games (in most countries)

>There you go making excuses again for your laziness and ignorance. And you're telling me I need intellectual honesty?
They're good excuses though. Do you actually want to go open a new tab and go to gamefags or something and look up indie games until you find one that is PC only? I don't.

>You've been intellectually dishonest this entire thread.
Nonsense. I have said I am a consolefag. I have said PC gaming is better. That's 900% more intellectually honest than almost any consolefag or PEECEEgamoor on this board.

>Why are you rephrasing it? Because you know that's not what I said, you put words in my mouth. You're an intellectually dishonest shitposter using strawmen.
Not at all. It's because when rephrased that way it makes your statement look retarded, which it is. If a consolefag can play your "exclusive" it isn't exclusive. Period.

>Hot opinion you got there. Too bad it doesn't mean shit when the objective fact is Civ V is PC exclusive
Enjoy your meaningless terms that exist for intellectual games rather than real situations. "It's a PC exclusive. Sure, consolefags can play it but it's still PC exclusive!" "I want to play Odallus. Ok I just downloaded it and it's running on my shitty Intel HD 4000 card. This sure is exclusive to people who identify as PC gamers!"

>You've been completely demolished in the argument,
"Hot opinion" yourself. You just don't want to admit that consolefags get to enjoy a large part of PC's library while still remaining consolefags, so you can keep listing off thousands of "exclusives" that any consolefag can play. If you were intellectually honest, you'd only list games that a consolefag would be lusting after like you guys lust after Bloodborne, which would be something like Warhammer Total War, NOT something that will run on an iGPU

Leaving an image of a particular game with l33tgaming speak is either very poor shilling or top-tier bait.
If you wanted to make the argument that your game was good, you'd leave actual reasons or webms or what have you. But you're the equivalent of a half a second name-drop ad on TV between much bigger ads

That's how it is, op. Most active pc players either dump thousand of hours into shitty shooters like cs or assfaggots.

I like Japanese games

The problem with OP's argument for me is that in my experience the big meme console exclusives are really quite overrated. I had a 360, PS3 and Wii last gen and I genuinely just enjoyed the multiplats the most, and walked away from almost all of the exclusives that people use to justify their console hardware with a resounding "meh" for the most part. So in 2011 I sold my consoles, built a PC and never looked back.

Sometimes there's a worthwhile exclusive that will interest me but they're so rare that I just can't justify buying a console for one. At the absolute most I will buy a console at the end of the generation for a bargain basement price and play the 2 or 3 games I missed. So far that list is 2 games: BB and TLAU, the latter of which I really suspect to be a bit overrated but I'd like to try for myself anyway.

Most active console players dump thousands of hours into shitty shooters like COD or sports games like Madden or Fifa. Oh and don't forget Minecraft, one of the most popular games on consoles today.

Has Cred Forums always been a pc nesting ground?

Or was there some event that made Cred Forums so pc-centric? I had a computer as a kid and played games on it but couldn't keep up up with gpu cycles anytime I wanted to play a new game and dealing with a random game just not working. So I stopped with pc ever since I got a Dreamcast.

But why is it that every time a game is announced, there's always asking of the pc version?

I don't know the answers to these questions. I game on console and access Cred Forums on my laptop from 2001 and my phone.

tl;dr

Done embarrassing (You)rself yet?

Why? Are you a cringelord?

I'm guessing so.

>consoletard mobileposter

opinion discarded

No, keep giving me (YOU)

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The prior's far worse than these. PC gaymurs don't even play good games. At least Bloodborne sold 2.5 million

>But why is it that every time a game is announced, there's always asking of the pc version?
Because more options is more beneficial to consumers, so being able to have a choice of where you can get a game is nice. Plus the PC version of games is usually higher quality and/or at least offers a bit more control over the game. And due to the way PCs are, once a new console generation appears you won't lose access to all your older games. You get to play new AND old ones, whilst backwards compatibility is questionable on consoles.

Its just in the end a lot more consumer friendly an environment. NOt that I'm trying to pull a console vs PC thing, but generally if a game isn't 1st party and its not on PC, demand for such is present in the hopes of changing that as it'd be beneficial for everyone for a game to be available in more places.

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Pathetic.

>$6000
Just for fun I tried to build the most expensive PC I could without being retarded and just buying the most expensive thing on the list. Only managed to get $4300. I'm sure I could get $6000 if I got an x99 board but unfortunately pcpartpicker doesn't have x99 or the -E series CPU's.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/7pkxHN

Are you saying das3 is bad?

I don't really like realism in games and tend to like anime art. Japanese games offer this in great supply, so I like them. I'm also very fond of boss fights and really crazy out of the ordinary things happening in games, and Japanese games just seem to supply this more.

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it is.

But why is port begging so common for PC users if it's apparently a "more consumer-friendly" and "popular" environment than consoles? Console guys never port beg.

>Bloodborne sold 2.5 million

That's pathetic compared to the numbers Minecraft and generic sports games are played on PS4. Console gaymurs don't even play good games, you eat shit hand over fist and shove it down your throat.

You have it backwards. PC is for multiplats, a means of having a better experience than the alternative. Consoles for for hostages - uh, I mean, exclusives.

>1080
try the new titan and then come back

What do you call PC's hostages that no one wants except people who already own PCs?

The pic was illustrating that pc gaymurs have shit taste and would rather play dork souls 3 or indie shit with no gameplay rather than mushihimesama despite saying they have better taste and play "challenging" games..

They beg for Fallout 4 mods quite a bit, actually.

>being this anally annihilated

Your tears are delicious.

People ask for games on PC because sometimes games aren't announced on PC and people want to play them on their platform of choice. Asking for something is the best way to let a company know there is a demand for something, and if there's a demand for something, company's may be more inclined to make it available to such consumers.

As for your latter statement, I dunno; I've seen people ask for PS4 games on Xbox before. It probably happens to some degree but you just don't notice it.

It sold more than Dork Souls 3 did on PC

Your (you)s sustain me

Because it isn't PC exclusive
>Dork Souls

post discarded.

>I'm too retarded to learn how to make simple electronics function
>here's a picture of some retarded looking bitch looking retarded, it's meant to illustrate how retarded I am

Yeah ban all phone posters pls hiroshima

>mushihimesama

Maybe they just don't like bullet hell games? I personally don't find them appealing or particularly fun and would much rather play dark souls.

I think we all know PC gamers hate challenge. That's why they whine when save anywhere gets removed from a game.

>being so despesrate for (You)s you shit your pants for attention on an Egyptian donkey breeding forum

Why do "pc gaymurs" have to beg if the're the dominant platform? Once again, I don't see console guys begging for pc games

DS3 is fucking abysmal, DS2 is shit.

One day you'll come to terms with the fact that despite Souls being your favorite series, you only really like 2 or 3 out of 5 games.

Do you listen to yourself when you speak? You should, because you don't listen to anyone else.

You can't directly compare PC exclusivity to console exclusivity because that isn't a matter of contract restrictions or related bonuses. That's a pragmatic decision because development on PC doesn't require any sort of royalties. You don't need Microsoft certification on your patches before you can push them out. It's a matter of being an easier and cheaper platform to develop on.

Still, I'll concede the point if you can name a few games that are exclusive to PC for reasons beyond being simply infeasible to play with a controller.

To repeat myself:
People ask for games on PC because sometimes games aren't announced on PC and people want to play them on their platform of choice. Asking for something is the best way to let a company know there is a demand for something, and if there's a demand for something, company's may be more inclined to make it available to such consumers.

>But why is port begging so common for PC users
It's not, the last time a port begging petition reached a notable amount of signatures was several years ago. Console warriors love to meme about port begging to fuel their inferiority complex

>Console guys never port beg.

Instead they beg to cancel ports and take down reviews, which is far worse.

change.org/p/washington-post-remove-the-washington-post-review-from-uncharted-4-s-metascore
web.archive.org/web/20111119104312/http://www.petitiononline.com/capcompe/petition.html
change.org/p/rockstar-games-dont-make-a-pc-version-of-gta-v#share

That's ironic considering any shooter on console comes with auto aim.

But you meme about "git gud" and pc gaymurs having taste.

Well why don't you play an actually challenging game?

If it didn't we wouldn't be able to play it because controllers are shit for FPS
Love,
Consolefag

He's probably very young and does not know where PC gaming and consoles have come from.

Because the PS4 and Xbone are legitimately shit compared too older consoles. Sony and Microsoft have literally abandoned all of the reasons that people originally bought consoles. Paid online, mandatory installs, patches, broken games, less local multiplayer/coop. Consoles are basically PCs except they don't have any of the benefits to an actual computer.

I care more about hardware, specs, frame rate, compute power, multi controller input, graphics sliders and digital purchases to give a shit about games or console games for that matter.

Give me power first, games are secondary on my priority list. I don't give a shit about shit console games, I rather max my hardware first and foremost, what's so hard to understand??????????

>I don't see console guys begging for pc games

Also why do "console gaymurs" always throw a tushy tantrum whenever one of their exclusives ends up on PC? Should they be secure about their dominance?

>For me PC gaming is amazing.
>lists psp games and last gen console ports

PC gaming at its very finest ladies and gentlement

I didn't say any of that shit, actually, I'm not the same user. I'm just saying don't be surprised that people on PC aren't that interested in bullethell games with some 110% weeb name and artwork.

Personally I don't enjoy playing super challenging games. There's a sweetspot with difficulty, harder isn't better.

Souls isn't my favorite series. Castlevania is ;^)

Souls games are like 8/10s, but the only one that's really bad is DeS "let's put enemies EVVVVVVERYWAHERE LOL" 2

>The pic was illustrating that pc gaymurs have shit taste would rather play indie shit with no gameplay

The most popular games on console are COD and a port of a PC indie game. Console gamyers literally eat shit.

You just described modern console fans.

Well duh, PC gaming feeds off console scraps. But the scraps are good. It means PC gay Moors don't have to pay as much for the games which they really don't want to

But I'm having fun user
Also I forgot to mention Tokyo Xanadu as something else I am looking forward to

>deplorable
I bite. Maybe you should use pc more than gaming OP

Better than listing unreleased console games that were announced last gen and still aren't playable yet.

>So a few years ago
>Gtx 970
That came out last year you fuckwit, op hang yourself

>PC gaming feeds off console scraps

When its on console, it's NEVER EVER YOU WISHED YOU HAD THIS

When it's on PC, it's suddenly "scraps"

>name a game you want to play in this gen
>bloodborne
>THIS GEN

>2013

No way it has been that long already. It just cant.

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Sadly. This generation of game player is very different from mine. As time goes on the elders are a dying breed. Sometimes I wonder why I'm here.

There's absolutely no difference between playing these games on your computer or on the console they debuted on except for smaller game community and dealing with hackers

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Have fun with the console ports. No idea hwy you don't just game on console, all the games are there, instead you beg for ports on PC and probably don't even play PC games. My mind is blown at this level of retardation. You're missing out on games because your dumb

Read the next sentence you gay moor.

so you'll play xandu..

i'll play xandu and ys 8 and trails 1,2 and possibly 3

He plays on PC because he's poor and the games are free on PC. Do you know how expensive it is to buy games when they come out on console? 60 per game really adds up. Say you want 4 games. That's 240 dollars. On PC sure you have to wait sometimes, but it's free.

I don't need to, because
>PC gaming feeds off console scraps
Literally discredits anything you have to say. You outed yourself as a shiteating retard.

>playing on console
Enjoy paying for online I guess.

>Retard cannot handle truthful discourse and is triggered by any negative statement about his ingroup

Which of these games forces you to deal with hackers? Almost all of them are single player last I checked.

see

That's exactly what I'm saying. And it's not even like he's getting better graphics. They look the fucking same. Triple A games made are made with console in mind as well, so the benefits you'll get on pc are minimal at best unless you seriously can't play a game at 30fps (which I don't know how you played on PS1 or n64 if you did).

>truthful discourse
Is that what you're calling your asinine shitposting and braindead meming nowadays?

Its 60FPS and has more graphics options (PS4 and Vita versions are 30FPS). I can play it at a higher resolution than any other version too should I ever get a monitor better than my current one.
Because the PC gets the best version of these games, and I won't have to movie from my computer to play them. I also just like that once the next console generation comes, I will still be able to play newer and older games on this one same machine rather than having to move back and forth.
Plus its a neutral system in some ways. The PC has gotten Wii U, Xbox One, PS4, Vita, and 3DS games, but oftentimes such games aren't across those systems.

>no halo 5

lol

You can't handle that PC gamers feed on scraps and consolefags can't handle that PS4 has one game. You're both idiots.

God Eater ad Souls, you shit-eating tard.

As well as every multiplayer shooter

>That's exactly what I'm saying. And it's not even like he's getting better graphics. They look the fucking same.
You really have no idea. PC almost always looks better.

>He plays multiplayer in souls
kek

I haven't run into any hackers on God Eater and can't imagine why there'd be any.
Its not a competitive game; the prospect of fearing hackers is just silly.

>The state of PC gaming is deplorable
it's really not

we have literally all the games except for some nip exclusives, which a lot end up getting ports sooner or later. That and the only franchise keeping the xbox alive (Halo), which the next game is coming to PC anyway

my only gripe with PC gaming right now is nvidias increasing monopoly and steams lack of curation/qc

this bait threads are lame
4/10 making me reply

>You can't handle that PC gamers feed on scraps

"truthful discourse"

You're triggered by PC so you shit yourself on Cred Forums because of it

>Its 60FPS and has more graphics options (PS4 and Vita versions are 30FPS). I can play it at a higher resolution than any other version too should I ever get a monitor better than my current one.
Why do you even care about any of that shit?

Was Red Dead Redemption unplayable for you because it was 720p and 30fps?

How could you play ps1 games at 240p and under 30fps? OH NO THE HORROR!! CRASH BANDICOOT ISN'T 60FPS??? NOW I SUCK AT THE GAME BECAUSE OF ARBITRARY REASONS THAT DON'T FUCKING MATTER

what are u going to do with the new god eater on console, danganronpa 3 and ys8 since you like falcom games? just sit there and miss them like a retard??

oh no wait u can max psp handheld games on your pc oh shit that's really worth it!! dude you don't even play pc games, whats the point of what you're doing at all?? just go to consoles u retard

>people building PC's not knowing exactly what they want to do or play

please just fuck off

You're triggered by the truth so you display agitation when it is stated.

>we have literally all the games

Are you a lizard?

But that's wrong because nothing you stated is true

God Eater 3 is only for Japan right now retard. They wouldn't announce a PC port until the Western version. Keep in mind the Western versions for PS4 and PC were released at the same time.

>people building pc's to play psp and console ports while completely ignoring actual PC exclusives

This pisses me off beyond words, I want to find these people and do things to them

if you want to go by sheer numbers, and the availability of emulation, yeah we do

nice reaction image though, really makes up for your lack of argument

I have the same problem with my ps4. Can't play anything because nogaems. Shit sucks.

Port port port port PC port report

Get out of here with your reasonable behavior, I bet you have friends too!

Idort is the perfect lifestyle if you've got the money. Wherever possible, you can get the power and freedom of the PC, but without locking yourself out of a wide array of console exclusives.

God Eater doesn't force you to deal with hackers and he didn't list Souls.

>As well as every multiplayer shooter

You're a shit-eating retard if you play multiplayer shooters on console. Fact.

No, its not unplayable, its just better. If I have a choice between a lower quality or a higher quality version, I'll take the higher quality.
That doesn't mean the lower quality versions are unplayable.
Also I tend to go back and play older games at higher resolutions and the results are usually still prettier
I'm going to wait and see if they get ported to PC like GE:R, GE2, DR1, and DR2.
I find it doubtful that they'll actually wind up being PS4 exclusive. If anything, I'm more worried about God Eater Online; I could very well see that staying Japan only/phone only which would be a real bummer.

>PC gaming is useless without games
No shit, any gaming is useless without games. Thankfully there are more games released on PC than on every console ever combined.

Thanks for proving my point. You're just meming shitposter.

>Why do you even care about any of that shit?
Framerate is gameplay. yes, I would argue that the gameplay of a game at 30fps is worse than the gameplay of one at 60fps. Gameplay is even better at 120fps and 144fps. This is simply a fact, the only people who defend 30fps are the people who want cinematic "games" that want to be movies.

/thread

I can play Doom, Witcher 3, King of Fighters XIV and Bloodborne all on one system.

What about you?

>No OG Xbox emulator
>No 360 emulator
>No PS3 emulator
>No Vita emulator
>No Ps4 emulator
>''We have all the games''

How is Uncharted PC shit? oh wait

Losing the argument?
Shout SHITPOSTER!
Confusing the enemy
and allowing you to
claim VICTORY!

holy fuck this looks awful

The worst part is this dva thinks they're fucking competent probably

>Was Red Dead Redemption unplayable for you because it was 720p and 30fps?

It would be infinitely better if it you could play it at +1080p and +60fps. Don't even pretend for a second that sonyggers wouldn't jizz their pants if a RDR remaster was announced for PS4 running at 1080p60

Of course you'll ignore the double standard, depsite the fact that sonyggers are about to buy the PS4 PRO just for "4k" and improved framerates, just so you can meme about how PCfags only care about graphics becasue HURR CONSOLE GAMES FROM 1996 ONLY RAN AT 20FPS AND THAT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU? GHURRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Why would you want to play bad games?

>Uncharted

Out of all the games.. at least pick good things like Ni No Kuni. It's truly sad that NNK 2 might actually go to PC though

>DOOM on console
Please kys

>This is simply a fact, the only people who defend 30fps are the people who want cinematic "games" that want to be movies.
No I just don't give a shit. I'll still whoop your ass in Street Fighter whether it's 30fps or 60

As a Sonyigger who hated RDR, I wouldn't. Waste of dev resources. Literally all of Mexico was filler. ALL OF IT.

>Modern Rockstar
Not even once

>I can play Doom, Witcher 3 on console

>What about you?

I'm not a shiteating retard stuck with playing shooters on a console

Cred Forums universally fucking hated NNK.

I can play Scalebound, Nier Automata, Sonic: Lost World, Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, and Code of Princess all on one system.

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10k games on steam alone
+emulators
+the thousands of games not on steam
?

>Don't even pretend for a second that sonyggers wouldn't jizz their pants if a RDR remaster was announced for PS4 running at 1080p60
No I wouldn't "jizz my pants". I don't buy remasters. I play all games on the original console like they were INTENDED to be played unless it's a full up rework with all new graphics. But even then, the new graphics usually ruin original artwork.

>spout nothing but memes and a very silly and bait level claim that goes against reality
>why don't people take me seriously? how dare you call me a shitposter! you're losting the argument! everything I say is the truth you're just triggered!

You named two good games and they're not even out yet

And none of those is Bloodborne :^)

I just counted and the Playstation 4 has only 21 released physical exclusives that aren't available on Vita, Remastered or on PC.

Pathetic as fuck.

He's right though

the only reason undertale gets shitposted about now is because of the contrarian children who post here

It was more of an extention of their hate of PS3 which affected MGS4 too, NNK was a literally brilliant game and had very little flaws. MGS4 was one of the best metal gear solid games as well.

You're posting webms of people who are not only playing on console, but also don't know how to play video games. This isn't fair

this one actually is on pc tho

>best game ever
>isn't even out

Why don't you refute the central port that PC isn't about eating up console ports and staring at their grass textures blowing in the wind? Warning: do not use Cred Forums as a source since it proves that PC is about eating up console ports and staring at their grass textures blowing in the wind

All Sonyggers do is list unreleased games you fucking retard.

>I-It's NOT even GOOD!!!!

There's a reason fighters are locked at 60 on console. Most racing games and multiplayer shooters are 60 on console. Pro FPS players usually use the highest framerates possible, which is why every CS player uses 144hz monitors. Framerate has a direct impact on performance in a game. Games can be good at low framerates, but they will ALWAYS, 100% be better at higher framerates.

Boo hoo someone on a PC might be able to play a game I can play on my PS4

WHY DO I EVEN LIVE!!!

That's because we only have one game so far. I think we have two and Nights of Azure counts as a game but gaymejournos disagree so I'm not allowed to like it

People who know how to play video games don't brag about playing shooters on a PS4.

>playing bloodborne at 30fps
lmao seriously user?

>trying to justify why call of duty and 30fps is better than mustard

Just play what you like brah. Relax.

All of the ones I posted are on PC. I'm confused at what you're getting at.
Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus, God Eater Resurrection, htol#NiQ: The Firefly Diary, Shantae and the Pirate's Curse, Disgaea, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Phantom Brave, Danganronpa 2: Goodbye, Despair, and Lost Planet 2 are all on PC. I posted those images, respectively.

If you're asking why I posted with such an odd posting style, as if I was pretending they weren't on PC, it was because this thread is trash and I wanted to demonstrate that there are good games on PC

>every CS player uses 144hz monitors.
CITATION NEEDED

>'you dont get games'
>20+ years of games dont count cause they're old though lol
>also never have to worry about PC2 coming out and invalidating your library

Your "central port" isn't even an argument. There's nothing to refute, you haven't done anything to substantiate your claims.

Why should anyone take you seriously when all you do is shitpost and meme?

Not him but I honestly got the feeling of the opposite. That you were choosing bad games that were on PC but ported from console to prove that PC only gets shit games as console ports.

Bloodborne is a fantastic game, I'm glad the PS4 has at least one good game but god damn it gets shitposted to hell and back on this board.

Nights of Azure looks fucking hawt, the sequel is looking good too.

That still ''not all the games'' so I don't know wtf are you even trying to prove. Tons of amazing console games are not on PC and never will be.

Also Steam has a massive problem with lack of quality control. See Digital Homicide. Gaben needs to stop being a fat fuck and cleanse Steam.

The evidence is Cred Forums. Surely you see it too. People shitposting over how much better PC vers look. That establishes two things: PC gay moors play console ports and that they love staring at floor textures to make sure they're crisp and clear.

Well, I didn't mean that.
I enjoy most of these.

>As a Sonyigger who hated RDR
Your opinion is irrelavent.

Who are you trying to kid? The fact is that even a basic RDR port to PS4 would be considered a major release by Sony fanboys all because it isn't on PC.

Just drop the whole "I only play on the original platform like they were INTENDED to be played" act, you're not convincing anyone.

That's actually true, when a game is release on PC and console it's harder for me to enjoy the game and it's discussion.

It's more of a sense of togetherness when a game releases for a single platform there is no platform or hardware wars because everyone is getting the same experience and the unite under the same umbrella, people just talk about the game happily.

When a game gets a PC port discussion is essentially fucked from day one, there is no redeeming it, it's just permanently fucked from that point due to hardware wars and PC users coming into the discussion. I can assure you 90% of PC users who will play ni no kuni 2 and participate in shitposting the game and PS4 users haven't even played the first one, you know, because masterrace and consoles are shit and all.

Console games are just better when they stay on consoles and PC users a left without a game, it's the best solution. Then the only shitposting that happens is from outsiders who are shitposting from the sidelines and it's much easier to deal with and ignore

What a nice happy statement in the middle of an awful thread.

there's been maybe 5 games worth playing in the last years. Therefore i have a toaster and mainly use it for emulators and porn.

As well as all the other applications that consoles can't do such as video editing and music production.

>Warning: do not use Cred Forums as a source
>Only I am allowed to use Cred Forums as evidence

Thanks for proving my point. You're an ignorant retard and nothing you say matters. Opinion discarded.

I'm also a Sonygger who hated Uncharted without playing any of them and hated TLOU.

I represent what is known as The Japanese Game Playing Audience.

Perhaps you have heard of us.

>Didn't even read the rest of the sentence for why not to use Cred Forums as a source

>when a game releases for a single platform there is no platform or hardware wars

Stopped reading right there. You and I both know that's completely bullshit since consolefags still complain about PC users ruining their threads for exclusive games like BB and UC4. There is no winning with you shitheals.

sonyggers are known for trying to shit on anything not sony (wiiu, xbone, anything).

This so much. See Dark Souls General and Bloodborne General. /dsg/ is a cesspool while /bbg/ is slower and dramatically better. You ask someone for help in /dsg/ and all you get is >Playing on console XD. PC fucks are cancerous.

I've never seen levels of autism flowing through someone on Cred Forums like this. You really believe console exclusivity provides a better community on a containment board like Cred Forums?

I'm not even going to bother refuting anything you said as it's obvious your perception of console exclusivity is so fucking distorted you're either clinically retarded or you actually believe this.

He's talking about pro cs players in which case it's true and documented.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UaM765-S515ibLyPaBtMnBz7xiao0HL5f-F1zk_CSF4/htmlview

I am on Cred Forums and I didn't even play it. How can it be loved by all of Cred Forums?

>build $1000 PC
>get free new and old games for life
>can customize to my liking
>watch movies/browse the chan/watch YouTube and play games side by side
>60+ FPS on all games
>components last for years

>console cuck buys $400 console
>pays $60 a pop for games
>$1000+ for decent TV
>60 FPS and lower
>has to shitpost in every PC thread because he's bitter
>has to pop out $400 more dollars every time a new system comes out
>has to wait for remasters to play older games
>has to buy an entirely different console to play other games

last 5 years*

>Modded Skyrim and other casual shit
>moba's
>competitive fps
>great rpg's
>access to kbm controls
>free online
>greatest pornbox

Sorry I'm not going to waste my time with your retarded ramblings. Come back when you can form a coherent argument without shitposting or contradicting yourself.

Wish we could just talk about video games on this board instead of platforms. Thanks for the nice reply too user!

This post is far more pathetic than all the port begging petitions combined.

No problem. Hopefully Bloodborne gets that port to PC in the end, heh!

>When a game gets a PC port discussion is essentially fucked from day one, there is no redeeming it, it's just permanently fucked from that point due to hardware wars and PC users coming into the discussion
What are God Eater threads?

>Cred Forums is analysis of why PC versions of games are better than console versions with ground and wall texture pics
>You: I want to prove PC is about more than console ports using Cred Forums as evidence

There's nothing wrong with it being PS4 exclusive since Sony's the publisher.

I'm hoping whatever FROM works on next is as good multiplatform or not.

>consolefags still complain about PC users ruining their threads for exclusive games like BB and UC4.

That's true though, there hasn't been a single Uncharted thread on Cred Forums that hasn't been derailed and shitposted to death. Bloodborne has managed to scrape by simply because of its popularity and legs, there have been non shitposted threads but many have been shitposted to death by PC users

>You really believe console exclusivity provides a better community on a containment board like Cred Forums?

Yes, it literally dose, every single ex-console exclusive that gets announced for PC, the discussion gets completely fucked, look at Nier for example, every single thread now involves hardware wars where as before, it was a niche game with small but comfy and civil discussion.

Discussion is infinently better when PC users are taken out of the equasion and left to their own devices without a game to play. Console users prefer not to have involvement with PC users but they beg so hard for games they actually get them and then proceed to destroy discussion.

Don't shitpost at him in my place, user, we all know Sony won't allow it. Unless it's through PSNow...?

>The state of PC gaming is deplorable
It's still better than consoles. It's really all quite fucking terrible. The only way to win is to not play.

This.

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>Wish we could just talk about video games on this board instead of platforms

It'd be easier if everyone was on the same platform, and even if we are idealistic about it, say everything did migrate to PC's we already have GPU wars as-is.

is there any advantage to playing on 4:3 monitors? I would have thought widescreen would be better due to higher FOV.

Weak pasta

>UC4
There hasn't been a serious Uncharted 4 thread on Cred Forums ever.
It's always console war baiting. (To be fair, I may have missed one here or there, but I have never seen an actual thread for Uncharted 4 that wasn't "Webms to show you what you're missing out on" and "Muh exclusives."
Also,
>PC users start everything
I am pretty sure 90% of all console war shit on this board is falseflagging and intentional flaming because people genuinely believe Cred Forums is solely Cred Forums 2.0 and for (You) farming and not for any real discussion.

The only thing we can do is pray games don't get ported, at least we know first party games and some third party games like Nioh will never come to PC. We just have to try our best to enjoy those games fully and thank god PC users miss out on it.

Oh wait never mind I didn't see the part about black bars.

I think most people should be able to agree that Nvidia and AMD are both bad but for different reasons. AMD is incompetent and Nvidia takes advantage of that incompetence to fuck over customers

>Discussion is infinently better when PC users are taken out of the equasion and left to their own devices without a game to play.

>there hasn't been a single Uncharted thread on Cred Forums that hasn't been derailed and shitposted to death....many have been shitposted to death by PC users

So you complain about PC users shitposting in threads for exclusive games that are not on PC, yet you are still arguing that threads for multiplats are ruined by the PC boogeymen because those games are on PC

You are full grade, 100% pants-on-head retarded. THere is no save for you, you're utterly hopeless.

>You: I want to prove that I am a dumbass shitposter who is agitated by PC and has literal shit for brains

Ok, good job then.

ignores my post. ggez op.

I might be inclined to sympathize if it weren't for the fact that every Nintendo and Xbox discussion thread gets shitposted to death by Sonyggers. Oh boohoo you can't talk about Bloodborne or UC4 without shitposting, I guess that's what you get for being the most cancerous fanbase on Cred Forums by far.

>look at Nier for example, every single thread now involves hardware wars where as before, it was a niche game with small but comfy and civil discussion.
You faggots were crying about muh PCuck port begging in nier threads before the port was announced. Don't fucking lie pond scum.

Why would I be agitated by PC? PC isn't a universal concept like "truth," it's just a box with a bunch of rare earth minerals and wires in it