Can we have a thread about MC OWH?

>120+ from OWH+

Seriously? Damn, I didn't think it had that many.

What happened to the previous thread anyway?

Threads die.

Which girls in this game have the best armpits?

The very last thread was just deleted

One of the other threads had all the class portraits posted, can't find it at the moment.

Are you supposed to keep running from the angel forever?
The furthest I've managed to go so far was 500km on a pirate, and some badass dudes suddenly spawned in front of me and burned me to a crisp.
I was finally managing to dent the angel because I had this axe that gave a 100% combo rate, but I ran out of time and the angel just ran away.

What are some of the better/easier classes?

You can if you want to. Or you can just kill her if you're strong enough.

Easiest starting class is probably the Swordmaster. Anyone that doesn't have Charisma growth can be a bit difficult since you can't get any allies.

Are the stat-perks any good or should I be using other perks?

Honestly depends on what class your using, if your gonna go a melee class something that stops equipment degradation is helpful, stat perks are really just useful when you have nothing else to fall back on early on.

I like taking identification, but I guess it isn't as big as a problem in MC since there's no real Rusty equips to make unknown things absolute garbage. Well, Rusty is still in as a debuff though, and might totally fuck up armors.

I always take some lockpicking in classes that don't have it for the free EXP from unlocking things.

I never played more than a few hours if OWH/OWH+, but I really loved it.
Just got the Vita version because I really wanted it portable, so I'll break down my thoughts.

Basically, I think the new interface is nice, and the game definitely looks a lot more polished. On the other hand, everything is slower than the original. The 30fps is one thing (though it really doesn't make sense to me, even the Vita should be able to handle this at 60fps), but it also seems to stutter a lot, like when running, and the load times are noticeably worse.
The traps are a questionable addition, but I haven't experienced any major frustrations with them yet.
The new character art is objectively better, but the new music is objectively worse.
The new graphics are nice, but not much of a difference. Ultimately, OWH looks better because of its speed and 60fps.
Overall, it's pretty good for a portable alternative, but I wouldn't recommend it for PC unless you've played the hell out of the originals already and want more.

>but I wouldn't recommend it for PC

Is that a don't get it, or if you have a Vita/PS4 get it on that instead?

The sutteering is not a fps thing. It's that the game does moves for every enemy between every step and it seems to calculate those too far and might do it in unoptimal manner, so simple act of moving bunch of characters around takes a tiny moment.

>traps inside towns
>it's a landmine
>it nukes half the residents
>you now have a bounty

Why would you do that?

I can't say. From what I hear, the PC version has problems with resolution and control mappings, so I'd say go for PS4 if that's an option.
In the end though, I think Vita is THE way to go, as having the exact same game but portable is great. If portability isn't a factor for you, then I guess it's your choice.

I've heard this before but it doesn't make it any better.
The original didn't have this problem, and it ran at 60fps and was made by some indie.

>The original didn't have this problem, and it ran at 60fps and was made by some indie.

It's bigger since it's widescreen, but I think MC OWH just has a bigger map in general, maybe that has something to do with it.

I didn't say it wasn't a problem, but stop talking about the fucking frame rate that you can't see in fucking turn based game.

You probably wouldn't even notice if original OWH also ran at 30.

Is there a better way to unlock all the classes than just picking Pugilist x5 and brawler?

Tying classes to #of wins rather than an in game condition is really dumb, I don't enjoy killing Alma but dying at 2.5km won't get me anything whereas retard rushing will unlock the new classes I want to try.

What are the unlock conditions?

Seems to just be every 2 wins unlocks a new class in the genesis hall.

what's the version to get?

MC? Vanilla or Plus?

Several classes need you to clear "anything" as another class specifically.

wew lad
Are you daft user? Of course you can see framerate in a turnbased game. Any game with animation has a framerate. The difference from 60fps to 30fps is quite noticeable. I'm not saying it takes away from the game, just that it's an undeniable facet of the game.
And then with the stuttering, yeah I accept that it's not framerate. It's still something that slows down the game and lessens its smoothness. Once again, not a huge thing, but you can't deny that it happens.

Just chill.

Why not all of them?

Get vanilla on sale, or whenever since i think it's dirt cheap anyway.
If you like it go ahead and get + too.
Get MC if you have a Vita and want it portable, or you play a shitton of the original and want more.

Wolf butt

I'm annoyed that the class select screen doesn't have the exact numbers on weapon/enemy bonuses like the ingame profile screen does.

Sadly the game crashes on me when loading up a map. There's a fix on the steam forums but the issue is there's no guarantee that he'll keep fixing it as update patches come out so I ended up refunding the game until some sort of official fix comes out.

Traps are the worst addition to MC. It slows the game down way too much by forcing you to attack every tile ahead or risk getting screwed over by RNG. They would have been fine if they only spawned in dungeons or in certain biomes, but right now they can just appear anywhere so any tile could be a possible game over. The original OWH was great because it was a roguelike without the bullshit. It's a shame to see the new game getting ruined by added bullshit.

Well, it's a remake of OWH, but it's also a Mystery whatever spinoff.

Tips for playing Ninja and Tourist in OWH+? I've beaten [s]the Demon Lord[/s] on [s]Normal[/s] with all the other characters, next up I'm getting the NPC's ending and properly saving the world.

How's MC:OWH btw? In terms of story and content, since we all know the gameplay mechanics needs fixing

>Legendary hero is an awoo
>Best waifu is a dog girl
Awoos are confirmed the best girls

Tourist is pretty much RNG the game. Best thing to do is grab charisma at the start and go into a partner world.

Ninja skills are shit. The cost is too high, you're basically a battle adventurer without the good skills.

Haven't gotten anywhere in MC's story to comment on that.

I think the original dev likes dog girls a lot.

OWH PORN WHERE

I want to fug Iris

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> left handed
trash

She's right handed when the clothes are on. True heroes are ambidextrous.

I have + and MC, why does MC feel so much harder than +, its like a dragon warrior spawns on me and instagibs me, or a skeletal archer knocks me into the corner and im stuck until the light gets me, and it took me like 8 tries to clear alma with a knight the first time compared to me being able to do it on the third run in +

Every monster gets skills at level one in MC, making them significantly more dangerous. More enemy variety also makes them more dangerous.

Towns are way harder to find, you typically end up overencumbered with a load of shit that you can't trade in for good stuff.

Anyone else run into issues of it just not loading up all the campaign worlds when you call up campaign updates?

It's currently only giving me the blow back world.

Works for me.

>R18 tags + Iris tag
>Only 1 nude gallery

Better than nothing I guess.

Maybe Steam thinks you aren't online?

>playing as a brawler with 3 stacked pugilist perks
>get some supposedly crippled guy to join me at the start but he can walk just fine?
>we walk a 1000 kilometers together and bond through our shared mourning of a girl that we couldnt save from the wall of death
>suddenly the fallen angel shows up and interrupts our joined attempt to swim to the other side of the ocean
>cripple bro gets burned to a crisp and i barely escape alive so I flip the fuck out and go on a rampage since my bro is dead
>get ripped from punching a herd of bunnies and walk 1000 more kilometers on my own while plowing through every monster, tree-hugger, and furry creature in my way
>just before the end of the world, the fallen angel shows up again and i combo punch her to death like the friend murdering whore she is to avenge my bro

This game is fun.

I don't think you can see your death screen, for the people who told me that last thread. It just shows whatever you screenshotted last.

>pick the titty monster companion
>oh don't worry about the cripple guy I'm sure he can get out on his own

Just found Baldur, goddamn is he useless. Restoring ST? Really? Maybe if I wasn't a bloody knight.

500 km and I can't find a town aside from the ones at the start. Wasted all my awakenings already, goddamn it's ridiculous trying to find towns in MC.

He was a little useful when I played a Queen, but he doesn't always Restore ST. I wish he did something else besides Restore ST.

Hm, after finally testing it out myself, detect is still pretty useful for finding towns. Nowhere near as bad as people were saying it was in MC.

>still waiting psvita version.
Cuck. The game is best played on PC.

>mods deleting video games threads
Why am I not surprised?

The PC version is a port of a console game, and it shows.

Well, as knight, you use ST to tank so your companions can do damage in peace.
But with just one ally who only restores ST... yeah that's a bad combo haha.

That really says a lot.

Only real problem is the loading times seem long for PC, The slowdown when moving is apparently related to stuff appearing way too much.

Does knight's blocking ability reduce the power of his thrown items like rocks and arrows or only his attacks?

I think it reduces it some. I had to throw out pretty much everything in my equipment area to kill a crow boss, including that 6 WT bow, it only did like 100 damage with guard up.

>Pick Samurai
>Almost every single level up is strength, Vitality, or weight limit
>Start with Katana that's inexplicably better than longswords and broadswords

Nippon strong.

Gotta press O.

Pick Ninja, put 3 on prowestler and 2 on critical and now you have a killing machine who can destroy almost everything in a single combo.

Press Y.

I didn't know what they meant by everyone talking too much, but after a couple companions, I see it now. The affection events just go on and on.

Also, generic speech with party members is just barebones speech in the outworld, no portrait dialogues unless you're talking in an affection event.

How do you unlock that?

Buy the perks with the hero points you get at the end of a run.

Thanks user.

How do you even play this game? I get raped so fast at the beginning.

Try going on an easier difficulty. Try not to fight the strong units, which is basically anything that's armored.

What class are you playing?

I'm trying knight out on the original version, I get destroyed so fast and can never find most of the shit I need to survive.

Might want to try a different world. What perks you got and what difficulty are you on?

Don't go into dungeons until you get some levels or good equips, and don't be afraid to use awakenings and other skills or items to get out of trouble.
Knight works well with other characters on your team. Try recruiting the soldier in the castle by giving yourself charisma perks.

Some worlds have the starting castle in dangerous areas like volcanoes, so try finding one that starts out in a grassy area instead.
Also keep playing on easy until you get the hang of the game.

So how the fuck do I unlock One Way Hero class? I'm supposed to get King Victor NPC after clearing 1 campaign and then do his quest, but after murdering the Angel with 3 different classes (Knight, Wanderer, Swordsman on normal), I still haven't unlocked anything.

Did you go to a random world, or one of the designated online worlds?

I picked one of those campaign worlds with the weird names.

I dunno, try clearing it on Easy.

You didn't pick the default random world it gives you, right?

Start a new quest -> select world -> campaign world -> update list with o -> then I pick one of those (usually enter the same world as other heroes)

Am I doing something wrong? The only castle resident I've unlocked so far is the wise mamel. (though he's trying to rip me off)

Try one of those worlds that come with a companion, put it on easy difficulty maybe.

Just in case, if you die you need to repick it else you go to random world.

The whole default selection is a random world is so annoying, but I'm one of those people that retry worlds, I guess.

If all else fails at unlocking the Hero, try killing the angel without wearing any armor. I'm just throwing out any idea I can think of.

Are those nice sprites from Mystery Chronicles or OWH/OWH+ also have them?

MC.

The more I see threads on it, the more I believe the better art is the only reason they really picked it up.

Waifufags as usual.

Of course we'd pick it up for the better art. That's also the reason why I don't care about indie games that try to pander to nostalgia. I'm no longer 10-year-old.

Thank you for proving my point on why your opinion of why MC is good doesn't really matter.

Hope you weren't one of those guys screaming about how MC's gonna die because you didn't buy it on PC because its port is shoddy and the shit MC brought over hurts as much as it helped to OWH/+'s gameplay.

Fuck off, retard.

Haha. I suspect you enjoy playing shit like Neptunia as well huh.

>yuri shit
Nah.

You don't get to talk about yuri being shit when you're just as fanatical about whether or not you can jerk off to cute girls, you hypocritical retard.

Fuck off, retard. The game looks better in every way compared to the original while keeping the game just as fun.

You've repeated yourself twice now. You've also just said "BUT IT'S FUN."

There really wasn't anything wrong with OWH's graphics. It's a perfectly serviceable game all things considered. You're just a dumb piece of shit who goes after bells, whistles, and how many hot girls you can jerk off to.

You don't even really appreciate the game, so why the fuck would your opinion on any aspect of it matter?

At least I'm not an autistic fuck who get triggered by anime art. Overall MC looks better in many way to the original:
Sprites look better, are higher resolution and don't look cheap.
Same for the UI which looks better as well, it also helps that unlike the original it's in HD so there's no black borders on the sides.
The new portraits are also better-looking which is also a nice addition.
Also just so you know I played and enjoyed both games, so I'm not sure what you're going about. To be honest the only things I thought was missing in the original a UI/character revision. The new classes and the fact there's not this bullshit tourist class is nice too. From what I read they also changed the story a bit, which is a nice touch to not feel too spoiled by the original.

>At least I'm not an autistic fuck
No you're a dumbass who clearly thinks with his dick moreso than his brain. If I had problems with anime art I wouldn't be able to play OWH to begin with. It's not like it hides its Japanese heritage or anything.

Quit jerking off so often, you're cutting off the circulation to it.
>there's not this bullshit Tourist class
You're right. There's a Tourist -1 class.

You don't sound like someone who's played any of the games before and I doubt I'm the only one you gave that impression to.

>Meet my first companion NPC
>Lvl 0 Charisma

>just had this happen with the King
>Lvl 1 Charisma

Stop posting, retard.

Every post you make makes you look dumber user.

But by all means, continue having a shitfest over being called out on your pathetic reasons to game.

At least I'm not a retard unlike you. I played and enjoyed both games.

You've said retard in every single post you've made, user.

I can't really talk because my vocabulary's definitely shrunk over the years, but for fuck's sake, at least get one of those vocabulary books and expand your palette of insults even the tiniest bit.

>I played and enjoyed both games.
Again, though, I really don't buy that.

>That's also the reason why I don't care about indie games that try to pander to nostalgia. I'm no longer 10-year-old.
If you were so staunchly against how "bad" OWH looked, you likely overlooked it. If you thought it was a shitty indie game, you likely overlooked it. By your own words, you absolutely looked into the "remake" because MC has better presentation.

I could say that MC inspired you to look beyond OWH's lesser graphics to give it a fair shot but I don't buy that happening in the slightest and you're such a babbling idiot that it sounds silly to entertain that conjecture.

I'm calling you a retard because you are a retard. I'm not going to stop calling you out for what you are. Blame your mother for not aborting when she found out her son had a deficient brain. You may also blame her for taking drugs/smoking as it may be the reason why you are a retard. Go back to twitter if I'm hurting your feelings.

I dunno why you keep bothering to reply to him, he's obviously retarded.

>OWH+ is round 50 MB
>MC is almost 4 GB
dayum

Do DoT effects like vial of flames take off the demon lord's barriers?

That's great, user.

Now give me a real argument instead of a long-winded version of this.

Because I like watching people dig their own graves. It's a rarity to see something this genuinely ignorant. Most other shitposters are just pretending to be retarded and no doubt now that someone else has openly called him out on it that's exactly what he'll try to claim but this is a guy who got pegged 100% for only getting this game because hot Wolf Girl Ass and is mad that people who actually care for the game saw through that in a heartbeat.

Don't think so, for that matter don't waste things like Cursed Bones on her shield to stop them from meditating until you've gotten rid of the barriers.

At first I thought that was all the voices added with dual audio but nope, all of this game's Audio is just 1GB.

Oh.
Does it at least pierce the barriers and deal some damage to her, or is it just completely blocked?

I can beat normal relatively okay but hard is just hard and sometimes plain unfair.
Any tips?

From what I can tell you always have a small chance to bypass the barriers (or at least that's how it's going for me with the encounters with them in this run) but otherwise it'll just count as one attack against them. Better to kite them and throw it at them after getting rid of them with melee/force.

Crits pass the barrier IIRC.

That explains it, currently trying to get a Swordsmaster win in and went all Crit Rate.

What's so fun about those games?

youtube.com/watch?v=NkWGp9GP2og

Damn, this is probably one of the best games I've ever played, not even joking.

>can't get good enough to survive Hard, even through cheese builds
>apparently the Dimensional shit is locked to Very Hard.

It doesn't matter anyways.

My relationship with this game has always been dropping it for a long while, coming back after months, playing it in short yet consistent bursts before doing that again. All that shit I gave MC-retard for it and I only started playing OWH+ again because I couldn't play MC at all on this PC.

I think I saw it yesterday on the PS Store.

Use the vault.

Anyone know what the legendary smith guy is for? The one that wouldn't repair your equipment because its not good enough for him or something.

Well, I still benefited at least. Some mobs killed him and I got 10 quality whetstones.

That's pussing out.

Real men come down to being trapped in the Corrupted Lands, some asshole Skelly behind him and that Demon Lord faggot in front of him.

Real men lose their shit at the wrongness of the world going to shit because of that floating fuck, repeatedly slamming their weapon into that bastard in outright fury, given up on succeeding at killing that fucker, just hurting him enough to make him have an inkling of the pain the rest of the world feels.

Real men have armor break before their body does, shields shattering, clothes torn to shreds, trying to swing again and again and again until that last hit sends them to the ground and their body won't move anymore no matter how much they want to.

And real men get to die knowing it ain't over yet. They'll be back. And next time they'll find something to shove right up that fucker's ass.

Enough being a faggot though, it's more fun trying to cobble shit together in randomly rolled worlds even if it means some campaigns end anti-climatically.

>tfw ORAORAORA-ing everything with 5x Pro Wrestler Swordmaster
now if only i was playing the new version so i could use that class that revolves around this shit

I'm just telling you're a retard. Get a trip so we can filter you.

>he actually came back after the thread started having conductive discussion
>he's still this afraid of losing an argument he long since lost

Got any tips for MC?

really enjoyed the original. no absolutely no business being that good and content dense for a buck. best value purchase in vidya since i got FTL for a dollar too

is this remake any good? what does it look like during game play?

i'm semi-interested in this game but it's like $25 on psn

I never lost the argument, retard. I was actually playing the game instead of whining like you.

never heard of it. what's it like

You can have more than 3 perks?
How?

Please keep going user.

You've gone from it being hilarious to just sad, to it being hilarious again because you could've long since just stopped but you won't anyways.

like a roguelike where you have to keep running from impending doom chasing you across the screen

you can play it multiple times to piece together a story about the world that existed before this apocalypse event

its dirt cheap and interesting

Follow your own suggestion, thanks.

Dunno about the remake, but in the original I wanna say you get more perk slots by just getting more perks. Or maybe unlocking new classes, I don't really know, to be honest.

The dump is afloat for a week or more.

So for someone who hasn't played either game, should I buy OWH+ or MC?

Alternatively I could get the entire bundle for only €11,70, as opposed to a single one of them for 8-9

Is there ever a reason to not use up your levels at a goddess statue? The statues seem so rare to me that not spending levels seems like a humongous mistake.

Get the bundle.

Oh I just realized that the bundle doesn't come with +, it's just vanilla and MC.
That further complicates things.

Best playthrough was in vanilla owh when I rolled a hero on inhumane maniac and somehow I got a holy weapon and a buddy tablet so I managed to make the demon lord join my party and defeated the darkness with a slender spear. I saved the replay as "true end".

OWH+

OWH+ because some of MC's additions are a bit on the cheap side of things.

OWH+ really does feel like bad luck getting you, but never outright bullshit like fire traps that set off all the explosives you were carrying. That's usually relegated to enemies who clearly breathe fire, or at least you'll discover that after a few runs.

I wish I got another good musics on MC:OWH instead of the some crapshots that they made now. Sky tileset music in MC:OWH sounds good though.

Just play it on PC and sell your Vita.

Planing on releasing a mod to replace MC music with OWH stuff and I have around 3/4 of it down already but got to say the amount of alternative music OWH has for stuff kinda makes it hard.

Some biomes in OWH have 4 or 3 tracks and I got to just pick one for the replacement in MC.

MC because OWH+ isn't on sale right now.

>Take one of the 2 NPCs at the start
>Not even 100km in I get a message about a companion that I can't recruit now