>>352480087

But you do interact with it

>This is the same guy who said that Bioshock Infinite shouldn't fix it's gameplay and level design problems but instead focus more on waifufaggotry.

What?
When did he say that

He went on and on about how violence was bad and how the moments he liked the most were the barebones gameplay interactions with Elizabeth.

Errant Signal is a faggot.

Muh barbarians...

Isn't this the guy who said the barbarians in Civ are racist?

Why the fuck are you giving him views, OP? Explain yourself.

He's right though. The new Deus Ex is about as deep as Skyrim.

I mean, that's kind of fine?
That game pissed me off a lot too.
They give you a choice at the start of the game, and regardless of what you pick the same thing happens
Why the fuck did they give you a choice, then disregard what you pick

I don't really have any other game criticism videos to watch, and I liked his one on Tony Hawk

i guess his signal was...errant

I heard heard of this youtuber before but he's completely right though. There's far less to the gameplay in this game than the original Deus Ex, and I really agree that it feels more MGSV than anything. And these past two Deus Ex games are the most pretentious games I've played in the past decade that weren't made by David Cage. I think he makes and explores the points well too.

Thanks for the recommendation, Cred Forums. I'm gonna watch more of this dude's stuff. I've been looking for more video essay stuff instead of shitty let's plays.

The fact that you even deliberately seek out eceleb shit is reason enough for you to bite the bullet.

Just whatever you do avoid the Civ 5 video.

Then why don't you watch this guys videos
youtube.com/watch?v=4xsmUutxd28

but
but
muh barbarians

Why?

Wait, there are telling me there are human beings that actually like that game?

Okay, now I want to see it just to see why somebody would.

It's a good game though, he makes fun of it for dumb reasons

Okay half way through that video. I don't get what the problem is. All he's doing is talking about the ideology and views of history of a game that's all about that kind of stuff.

you haven't heard muh barbarians yet

Why won't you make videos any more, darkie?

I did. It was the second thing he talked about.

Anxiety presumably

You still post on twitter though

I already know Errant Signal is sort of SJW-ish

How about Game Theory? I feel that Matt Pat is a closet SJW and he is obnoxious

>, they'd give the player a cry button to press when made fun of.
Thats not what he says.

>e-celeb bullshit

>Game Theory

LUDO

Just tell me senpai

I hate him desu desu desu

>Far less gameplay
Do you mean game length? Because MD is a better game than Deus Ex in the gameplay department by a long shot.

the issue is what? that suggesting this game setting itself up as being about rise of civilizations can be be thought about in terms of civilisations?

Does he?
I don't use twitter.

He sounds like he belongs to the same crowd that cares more about the story than the game, who are infesting the hobby today.

>. All he's doing is talking about the ideology and views of history of a game that's all about that kind of stuff.
And people do not like the implications of that.

Thats pretty much it, and why "Barbarians!" is as much of a rebuttal as you will see.

>game theory
>tell me what to think Cred Forums!
Hopefully this is ironic

NARRATIVE

It's actually
>game analysis bullshit

That implying that some societies are superior to others is bigoted, therefore barbarians are problematic

The implications are completely wrong and opinionated though.

youtu.be/4N6y6LEwsKc?t=862
>On the other hand, FUCK THIS GUY
What did he mean by this?
Why isn't the author the definitive source on a piece of fiction?

Yeah he's fine, but he said something happened in his personal life that meant he wouldn't be able to make videos for the foreseeable. Shame, because he seemed like he would've been SBH tier. I talking to him on Cred Forums once

There is not a single game analysis channel that isn't either SJW "muh games are art" shit or random trivia picked up from Wikipedia.

What was he saying?
This is what it sounded like to me, that the only response to jabs aimed at the player, is the empowerment of punching them.
What was he suggesting if not a cry button

If you think some people are inherently and eternally less than you, akin to wild animals then yeah, thats got some negative implications.

Pretending it doesn't won't make that go away

less TO the gameplay.

They said less to the gameplay.

IS is great, too bad about everything to do with his personal life

youtube.com/watch?v=IyhrKPLDCyY

>Tfw your favorite game suffers from Ludo narrative dissonance

>people
No, societies

What's he do in his personal life?
I haven't heard about this, other then being a "Kickstarter Consultant"

Matt Patt is all over the place because all cares about is making money and clickbait. Any beliefs he actually has are likely overshadowed by this.

Like he made a better video about LGBT stuff than Extra "a JRPG where being gay or trans is a literal inner demon you have to kill has greatest LGBT representation ever in a video game" Credits but he also lets the goomba tits dude on his channel/network.

>What was he suggesting if not a cry button
Wait so to you there is only one way to have the player be affected by something and thats to give them a cry button?

Thats just you not being very bright. He mentions one thing in-game thats small and not a cry button and is almost implemented.

Some cultures are superior to others, get over it.

huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/polyamory-jealousy_n_2272175.html

You know what the solution is, right?
Look at channels done by developers.
Rami releases all kinds of 2 hour long lectures about making Nuclear Throne and other games
GDC puts out videos every day, of analysis done by developers that you can't see on wikipedia

I understand that this gets parroted by pretentious faggots but it's a real thing. Spec Ops: The Line is a good example.

Have you read The Death of the Author

so you actually agree with all his points just think of them as good things.

He's right about everything except BLM and other identity nonsense being worthwhile issues.

To be honest, the entire game would have been better if Adam didn't get essentially a free pass away from the discrimination.

Like if they cut out that Task Force 29 shit, and it was just him, working leads by himself, and struggling to work around the system that seems hell bent on keeping him down.

That would have been a much more engaging story.

Yes, and that game is a criticism of it.
The Narrator is supposed to be a stand in for the player, and the entire game is showing how this type of analysis isn't accurate, with the last level showing how uncomfortable the author was with his work being construed in such ways.

Or if, he actually earned it.
Like he wouldn't be allowed in areas, and as he progressed he got treated better.

I'd keep TF29 but have them apply their own bullshit to him.

Like nobody trusts him, not because he is actually a double agent, but because he is an aug, and even explain away his double agent red flags as "All augs are bad people away". His augs are turned off whenever meeting a member of the taskforce off-mission

That too.

Because then instead of just getting the option to say shit like

"Maybe the augs feel justified because they're being discriminated against."

You as the player could make the decision while it's happening to you. You could take shortcuts by being aggressive because as a player you may be presented with situations where you feel that's the only way out.

I've played the game so far, and all I've seen in terms of people discriminating against Adam, are his LOVABLE HARD-ASS SIDEKICK, and random people on the street. Kind of.

>Climb a giant radio tower to send a message to the police to let Jensen through
>Climb a huge tree to save a cat that was stuck at the top, everyone in the district loves Jensen now
>Climb a giant tower of scaffolding to get some kid's balloon - he was actually the police chief's son! The police in that area love you now

What he and everyone misses is that it's background; Deus Ex don't bitch about people being divided and such because the game is about the Illuminati and M12 fucking shit up.

It's like asking for a game taking place in the US to incorporate Trump and Hillary because it's an American issue.

No, I don't mean like that.
I mean through accomplishing objectives in the story, joining said organization.

This is deus ex. It'd be more like.

>"HEELP MY FAMILY MEMBER IS IN TROUBLE."

>"THANKS FOR SAVING MY FAMILY MEMBER. I'LL LOOK THE OTHER WAY NOW IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS CHECKPOINT."

The story was the only thing worse than the gameplay.
If those people were wigging out because their alternate dimension self was dead but they were alive, why wasn't every single characater in the game suffering from death sickness in the infinite universes where you shot them to death? I just can't imagine why anyone would want more of the stupid bullshit story over shooting dudes, even if the gunplay was especially bad for the series.

I am the person who said it, but it does really bug me
>Get shot in game
>it doesn't count, player shrugs it off
>get shot in a cutscene
>It suddenly counts.

>Get stabbed in game
>Can just get revived by a phoenix down
>get stabbed in a cutscene
>Dead forever

What do you want the police to do to you in-game?

Have a segment in the start of the game, where I'm not allowed into an area because I'm an Aug, have an enforced segment where I get punished if I use non-aug stuff, and then join the squad and gain perks for it that are role playing based

But the idea is that Adam isn't being directly affected by the issues. Does he need to be? No, but if you're making a game that isn't even going to touch on the larger conspiracy and focus completely on the domestic conflict, then having Adam deal with discrimination more directly would probably be more interesting.

>Have a segment in the start of the game, where I'm not allowed into an area because I'm an Aug
Hey you mean like that part in MD

Game theory is extra credit tier.
Avoid at all costs

What did they mean by this?
Doesn't that just mean you become a normal person? I don't think that supports the academic opinion and it actively oppresses the people who do it for the free money/popularity. Not at all progressive by the EC people.

they could just enforce those lines for one thing.

yes, exactly

which part is that?

Never mind I forgot that cop was fake lol

But the barbarians aren't a specific people, the fact that they're present throughout time periods, and aren't a specific ethnicity is proof of this.
They're saying that a specific societies aren't productive, and attack and steal instead of building things for themselves.
How is that problematic?

What do people think of his D44M video?

It's the best analysis on the game that I've seen

Aye internal consistency is very important in my book.

>But the barbarians aren't a specific people
Everyone else is, and Barbarians in historical context has meaning.

>They're saying that a specific societies aren't productive, and attack and steal instead of building things for themselves.
And when everything else conforms to a purely western, very american ideal of things that has implications. Understandable given the creators but still there. The point is part of a larger video

Here, let me give some recommendations.
youtube.com/watch?v=UPU_yi9Nv3M
youtube.com/watch?v=VZ4xevskMCI
youtube.com/watch?v=mpacdsZXOUQ&list=PLFFF86076AD617D55

>>>But the barbarians aren't a specific people
>Everyone else is, and Barbarians in historical context has meaning.
What the fuck does this even mean

youtube.com/watch?v=yuOObGjCA7Q
youtube.com/watch?v=6QlODYzC43g
youtube.com/watch?v=2wLHbKPRgUM

What, do you believe in it?

I'm not going to watch the video because I think Errant Signal is fucking garbage, but you summed up one of the problems with Mankind Divided.

I could break into any apartment, hack into computers, read any email, get into any storage shed and have the run of the entire city and nothing really came of it, except for some loot.

Like you said, there's no substance to a large majority of it.

What would you want to get out of it

That's because videogames work under the assumption that the character you're controlling performs all these actions flawlessly. That's also because we're all so impressed when a game actually acknowledges player mistakes and the world reacts accordingly.

They really should drop all these retarded storylines and "profound" themes and focus on basic reactivity first, it's what makes games great after all.

what can this dude do, so that i don't have to hear the fucking saliva sploshing around in his mouth when he speaks?

Dry his mouth by prepping the bull

It's important in everyones.
Suspension of disbelief isn't to be taken for granted

That's a good question, because honestly, I don't know. Something though. Why have all of these things when it's for no reason. Nothing comes of it.

I understand, flavor and world-building, but it's a world that isn't coherent. It's a world where no one is ever in their home. A world where every character can be boiled down to very specific details in superfluous emails. A world where everyone has a secret basement, or a hidden room where the real details are spelled out for you.

What's the point when I just jump from balcony to balcony and invade every citizen's personal items. Many times it just felt like a rummaging simulator more than an actual game.

Gone Home had more of a reason to look through random shit than this game did.

What's so good about his Tony hawk video?

>Why have all of these things when it's for no reason
They're optional, and some people seemed to really like it. I guess for the feeling of exploration/discovery, or just the need to pick up as much loot as they could?

I didn't really get the idea that it uses Lines while playing it
But it totally does, and gives a different context to those games that I could only "feel" when playing them at age 10

Lines as in what you grind or like?

Watch the video, he explains it

Freedom Wars had a good way of actually having the player experience a form of oppression. Basically, you're a convict who has to work off a sentence, and you have to earn literally every privilege or your sentence is extended. At the very start, you can't even walk around your cell more than 5 steps when you're off mission without them extending your sentence. When you earn your way out of the cell and can walk around outside, you get penalized for running too much, talking to people of the opposite gender etc.

Who's SBH?
Stealth black hand?

I feel story for people too stupid to understand why Aeris died in that scene. It's almost like they didn't play the game and just parrot what they've seen and heard.

>Get hit by meteors, world ending attacks all the time in combat
>nobody ever dies
>get stabbed in cutscene
>die
Why does she die, but when the world ends because of an attack, your character's don't, and just get 'knocked out'?

how can you be so thoughtful but yet drink the cool aid so hard?

Because, the analysis thing is a double edged sword.
Why do you think they all make videos on gamergate, either for or against it.
Because it's a trap, if you make a video about it, it's gonna be shit.

It's never framed as fact though, you do know that right?

are we going to have these threads every week?
isn't that, like, marketing or something

These are the only ways that we can actually talk about game analysis and get any replies though.
Found a new channel thanks to this thread
youtube.com/watch?v=6QlODYzC43g
And I appreciate that

You haven't played the game, have you? Or is the plot of FF7 too complicated for you?

>Press X to not cry

Different person, but I didn't play it.
Why does she die in that scene?

It's part of her fate as the last of the Cetra to activate the white materia/holy using her own life. She already knows she's gonna die there and surrender her soul or whatever you wanna call her spiritual energy.

So then what explains her death to a sword when she's withstood gunfire the entire half of the game before that.

For everyone talking about his ludo narrative dissonance video, look at it this way: in Bioshock, (and to some extent, infinite) you run about in a Randian dystopia, with the themes of the game centering around the flaws of objectivism (not saying that's correct or not, but that's largely what the game is a about. This would be fine if it wasn't contrasted by the fact that you are essentially forced to conform to that very philosophy the game seeks to criticize in order to progress, with your only moral decision being the cartoonishly evil choice of whether or not you want to murder a bunch of orphans. The dissonance comes from the fact that the gameplay is inherently at odds with the story, with no acknowledgement of that fact.
Contrast this with something like the Void, which has very similar themes, and gameplay that more strictly adheres to its philosophy without sacrificing entertainment. You must collect resources, but not be wasteful, and your goal in the game is to share those resources which give you life because that in turn is the only way to survive.

Or maybe niggers should go back to Africa.

Have you considered that he isn't actually cultish and your perception that he is might be flawed?

>Libertarian world
>Everyone is shooting at you, and stealing stuff
I don't see the dissonance, seems pretty accurate to me

Yeah, and I've rejected it. All these self-flagellating cultists who don't feel Der Wille Zur Macht need to be sent to the glue factory.

>ohhh it's so terrible to feel dominant and in control of your own fate abloo abloo life is meaningless

>with your only moral decision being the cartoonishly evil choice of whether or not you want to murder a bunch of orphans.
which itself conforms to objectivism, there is a morally correct action and that morally correct action is economically better for you.

Ken isn't an Objectivist, but his worldview is largely centred on Rand.

> muh artsy slavshit with no gameplay

...

But you are rewarded more in the long run for helping little sisters anyways, so there isn't even any consequence for picking the "good" option

>hi guys I'm user and I've literally never played The Void

Thanks for your input

joseph anderson does critique/analysis videos

The problem is that as the main character, you are also shooting at looting, and even taking heavy doses of ADAM, but it is seen as okay when you do it, simply because you're the protagonist.

Death of the Author both works and doesn't. The problem is the author as a person, and the author as a performer. If we view a creative work such as a book as a performance, then the performer and the performance becomes inseparable, as the performer is the means through which the performance is given form. It's the same way as if we saw a performance by Dave Chappelle where he says "Now let me take a moment to explain why the KKK is a great idea" versus if we heard the exact same line from David Duke. Both could deliver the line in a completely serious and deadpan manner, but the performer themselves are part of the performance and therefore the line delivered by Dave Chappelle would be recognized as a joke. The meaning of the line is informed by the performer. However, the performer and the person are not the same. The performer is created when the performance is created and exists alongside the performance but the person exists outside the performance. If 20 years later Dave Chappelle says that the line was actually serious and was meant as an endorsement of the KKK, then we have to seriously doubt his interpretation. In this case the text and the author clash and when that happens we choose the text over the author. That's what death of the author means. The author is not privileged in so far as to create meaning where there was none in the original text.

Yeah, because you're a libertarian

That would be fine if that were what the game was about as a whole, but one gets the feeling that that wasn't the authorial intent when the last boss is basically the personification of the metaphorical Atlas shooting lasers out of his face

>Errant Signal

lol, why would you watch that hack when there's kino like Extra Credits

DUDE CRUNCH LMAO

actual user here,

the videos which really broke the camel's back for me was his sunset review

youtu.be/PS_J214SXWU?t=9m59s

he outright says that there should be an elite telling people which "games" are worth funding, i might be wrong but he has his ways with words, it doesn't changes the fact he sugar coats a lot of this actual believes

>he outright says that there should be an elite telling people which "games" are worth funding
I dont know what part gave you that idea

He says that though
Complains that games where you're a strong woman of colour, but are compete failures in mechanics should get money, and watchdogs shouldn't.
Try reading the locked reddit comment thread on it
reddit.com/r/errantsignal/comments/3bhgs2/errant_signal_sunset_spoilers_mark_ii/
>disable comments
>lock reddit thread discussing the video
Seems like he's less a video producer, and more a 'teacher', dictating who and what the discussion should be.
Teaching us that games with unempowered black women are good, and ones with evil white men like Watch Dogs are bad.

People like to take the worst possible interpretation of content made by people they dislike

>reddit
>those walls of text

>He says that though
ok so whats the timestamp?

>Seems like he's less a video producer, and more a 'teacher',
First, video producer is a generic term, thats like saying he isnt a writer, hes a novelist.
Second his videos are him presenting a case for his analysis of a game, of course thats going to involve his thoughts. Not really sure what you're trying to say here? that he argues positions he thinks and thus isn't a guy making videos?

>reddit
Smdhtbqhwy

It's the only place he allows comments
Gotta have people who upvote and agree with what he says
People start disagreeing?
BETTER LOCK THAT REDDIT THREAD ASAP, CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE NOT AGREEING WITH ME

>Watch Dogs
>bad
That's true though

What novels has he written?

>It's the only place he allows comments
No?

Have you tried looking slightly below the current video?

We dont care about Reddit bitch fights, answer the question you replied to or shut the fuck up

Have you tried looking at that videos comments?

Are you having a giggle?

I teared up at the original ending of Evangelion, am I a faggot?

What?
I don't know what novels he released

He used to want comments on reddit because youtube has terrible comment systems, and gave up on that idea.

meaning, you're wrong, he allows comments elsewhere.

youtube.com/watch?v=HcSMm2FWgLU

Its a simile.

Then why the fuck isn't he called a writer?
Novelist=Writes Novels
Screenwriter=Writes scripts for the screen, movies, TV shows, music videos, etc
Writer is the catch all term
Don't call someone a screenwriter or novelist, if they don't actually do that

ok, "outright" was too strong of a word, but look at it this way
he basicly says that people are too dumb to get artsy games and want to be pandert to. he then calls the free market poisonous for status quo and then ends by saying we need to seperate financial success from artistic value.
throughout his whole monologue he never explains who should judge games and on what we base our assumptions.

are you dense? Do you not understand what an analogy is?

like all mexicans are criminals, am i right :^) ?

user, I think you misinterpreted what the other guy was saying, he wasn't claiming ES is a novelist or writer, he was comparing the distinction to the comparison the other user made

>then ends by saying we need to seperate financial success from artistic value.
Which we should?

Torment for example wasn't a smash commercial success, bloodlines was an abject failure commercially and we shouldn't judge it as a bad game because of that. Or do you disagree?

>Jeb Bush is a president
>but he'snot
>are you dense? Do you not understand what an analogy is?

>ok, "outright" was too strong of a word
Yes, you were full of shit, we all know

>he never explains who should judge games and on what we base our assumptions
Which, of course the only correct interpretation is he's pushing for a shadow cabal of Jewish bankers to funnel all videogame money into walking simulators.

Errant Signal is enough of a faggot by himself, you dont need to get hysterical and make shit up

>says MD only takes your lethal or non-lethal approaches into account when acknowledging your choices
>ignores agent Singh greeting you back if you saved him
>ignores Eliza creating a distraction if you finished her quest
>ignores the alarm going off if you called the wrong person in Switzerland
>ignores the entire Timochenko boss fight playing out differently depending on your choices
And possibly more stuff, just from the top of my head.

What kills me is that he suggests that the original did it so much better when its choices and consequences get blown way out of proportion to the point they became a meme.
>armory dude at UNATCO denies you ammo if your killcount is too high
>Anna Navarre talks shit about you if your killcount is too low
>saving Paul ultimately doesn't matter to the story or anything else
It's the same shit, yet one is okay while the other one isn't.

He's just one of those people who use any kind of criticism as a crutch for why they dislike it in an attempt to use video games as a means of social distinction. He's fat, right? I can hear it in his voice. I bet he also has a beard.

Not a native english speaker right?
That isnt what anybody said.

It was a shit analogy to be fair. What does it even mean?

>you dont need to get hysterical and make shit up
but
>Press X to not cry
Is a hilarious way to distill his ideas

user, pls. He wasn't claiming the guy was a novelist, he was saying the distinction in the previous post was vague, I will admit he had some funny wording but at this point you're being willfully ignorant.

exactly what it says?

that A is a subset of B, so saying "A rather than B" makes no sense.

>His Civ V video
>His GTA Victor video
>His Dishonored video

You ask wtf happened like it's a new thing user or as if he was good before, but here's the truth, he was always shit

>Which we should?

which we already do, there wasd no reason for this line beside trying to emphasis on the fact that certain games should get more exposure because "reasons"

>we
cute
>shadow cabal of Jewish bankers
full retard, anyway he completley ignores the fact that games are just goods, yet he acts like they have an inherint merrit and need to be make more public and if we fail to do so he can take the moral highground and bitch about it like the devs btw

>What the fuck happened to Errant Signal?
Nothing, he's still the hipster retard he always was.

>anyway he completley ignores the fact that games are just goods, yet he acts like they have an inherint merrit and need to be make more public and if we fail to do so he can take the moral highground and bitch about it
That has nothing to do with what you were arguing, stop backpedaling and changing the subject to try and make yourself not wrong

Errant Signal is one of those retards that thinks the narrative is the most important aspect of games.

I'm not sure its seen as okay, its seen as normal. You're actively becoming a citizen of Rapture over the course of the game as you loot more shit, kill more people, take more ADAM and rely more and more on Plasmids. You just haven't been there long enough to go completely fucking nutso.

And both have huge brand recognition.
Cult Classics can have huge value, why do you think numera got backed?

In some games it is.
Did people play Torment for the combat?

Yeah, that's dumb

The last boss was shit, but not for that reason

Sure, games can have a great narrative.
Still it isn't the point of the medium. You can have a game that's 100% gameplay and has no story but you can't have a 100% narrative game, because that would be a movie.
The thing is that he always tries to review games from a narrative perspective. That's why his Civ5 video is so dumb.

Narratively speaking all you can really say about Civ 5 is that Montezuma, Alexander, and Gandhi are huge cunts.

>still watching him after the Civ video

But sometimes the gameplay is an excuse, like in 999.

>review
They aren't really reviews

>The thing is that he always tries to review games from a narrative perspective
It isn't wrong to analyse a game or a movie or whatever on a single aspect. I've seen pieces that focus entirely on a games level design, or music or whatever.

>pretending youtubers were ever good
fuck off

No, it needs to show how bad and evil racism is
Games aren't art to these people, they're an excuse to 'teach' people lessons, and if those games aren't pushing their narrative, then they're problematic.

But, you could say the story isn't fleshed out, because they had to fix it in with shitty arena combat sections

>which we already do,
Not all people do, a lot of people saw sunsets commercial failure as proof it offered nothing worthwhile, hence him talking about this.

Thats why it was brought up, and I'd ask how you missed that but you've admitted fault in other aspects of the video already.

But, those people came from actually good games.
The original Bioware, games like Baldur's Gate 1/2.
The people who used the games as digital dungeon masters, and played classic CRPGs, that focused more on the story.
These people were always that portion of gaming, but they grew up.

nice word bubble

>a lot of people saw sunsets commercial failure as proof it offered nothing worthwhile

it's nice pulling shit out of you ass, isn't?
tell me, how would a system look like in which sunset would definitely get the exposure it assumptively deserve. or better yet, who is the judge to tell it should deserve it?

Bashing this game, for any reason whatsover, is a net good, so this video is totally fine despite his personal politics

Nothing. He's still the same whiny cuck he always was.

The game is a joke, you have leaders of nations that could not even make bronze or iron competing with Bismark for world domination. Its fucking dumb game, you can say "well it might make people think that barbarians (a fucking pixel on your screen) are subhuman. It is retarded, his view pretty much comes to "everything is political" and while a lot of shit can have political connotations it does not mean that there is one in here.

Not always. But it IS wrong to analyze Civ 5 from a narrative pov. It's like analyzing a radio show from a cinematography perspective.
My point is that he always tries to force this kind of analysis without taking the game into consideration.

point is it doesnt have no value and its failure isnt a condemnation, and he isnt prescribing some overlords to judge what gets made and what doesn't, as per your original statement .

>people mention his CivV review
>my face when actually checking it out
I'm only five minutes in. There's still roughly 10 minutes to go.

>people didn't shower this moron with dislikes like they should

>But it IS wrong to analyze Civ 5 from a narrative pov
Why? It has a narrative, characters etc. If it didn't, it'd just be a series of blank blocks hitting each other

>while a lot of shit can have political connotations it does not mean that there is one in here.
that isnt a rebuttal of the idea something has meaning

whatever you say, seems most people here agree with me

No, narritive is storytelling. A planned route of events meant to entertain.

Civ V is sandbox, you make your own story, so there is no narritive. Just a world populated by descriptions

>tfw the Dark Souls 3 review

By far one of the worse opinions ever recorded by mankind

>and he isnt prescribing some overlords

what else is he describing then? If the free market is poisonous and we as "gamers" aren't doing enough to give the game exposure because we are too dumb, or we only want "fun". tell me who is he describing, who is to tell what game has value which hasn't

>Worthy topics
lol

He's describing the government.
Those games should get money from the gubbmint, because it's easy to convince the state to give money to people, not because what they make is good, but because they're unprivileged

>what else is he describing then?
That people not treat commercially successful games as worthless while giving all the credit in the world to something as vapid as watch dogs
like, he says it in the video?

Besides, you can say "this is an issue" without "and some force must come in and correct it or else"

pure creation of yours.

>Besides, you can say "this is an issue" without "and some force must come in and correct it or else"

You can also say "I'm not going to say what the problem is" while showing pictures/video footage of it. Both are useful measures of being passive-aggressive and refusing to take responsibility for your own words while broadcasting/lecturing to people on YouTube.

>refusing to take responsibility for your own words
but you're the only one saying these things and insisting they are the only solution that can be possible, rather than just a change of attitude.

All on you buddy

>one more effeminate white guy on youtube talking about video games for longer than he has any right to
Not this shit again

>That people not treat commercially successful games as worthless while giving all the credit in the world to something as vapid as watch dogs

all you do is reiterrating the same points in the video without acknowledging anything said in the thread

>That people not treat commercially successful games as worthless

this is literally a figment of your imagination.
you create this strawman of "all people" so you can easily blush over the fact that the dev maybe juts made a 2deep4you game, that their marketing sucked, that overall value is subjective. once again, it all comes down crashing to "people" should listen to snarky internet commentators and do what they say because they know best

>all you do is reiterrating the same points in the video
>Addressing the actual content of the video instead of made up bullshit
How dare he, the content of the video has no baring here

>you create this strawman of "all people" so you can easily blush over the fact that the dev maybe juts made a 2deep4you game, that their marketing sucked, that overall value is subjective. once again, it all comes down crashing to "people" should listen to snarky internet commentators and do what they say because they know best
You're arguing about something completely different now

But you do interact with the world and it's problems. Play the game before you bitch, you stupid faggot.

Other than mentioning BLM, Islam and The Division, he is not wrong.

Here's the ultimate one
An hour on toxic masculinity
youtube.com/watch?v=kivtv6wabBk

He was right though. The Civilization games only have imperialist values. You definitely have no option to create a pacifist utopia.

>How dare he, the content of the video has no baring here

not what i said, he just tries to refute chunks of my argument without adressing the points i made.

>You're arguing about something completely different now

how so, all you do is take assumption on face value and base your arguments around them which leads to my conclusion

Discrimination in Deus Ex games don't really work because the augmented people are too badass.
It would be like being discriminated because you are rich, hence different than the poor people.

>SONIC IN 3D IS GOOD NOW BECAUSE I MADE A VIDEO ABOUT SONIC

>Implying that option exists IRL

seriously, he is pretty good, liked his Payday videos

>he just tries to refute chunks of my argument without adressing the points i made.
He addressed the points you made by pointing out how they dont actually exist in the video in question

>how so
Because what we're discussing has nothing to do with it being a shitty game or having bad marketing or whatever

Fedora overload

I just found out he lives in the same city as me, and I sent him an awkward email.

You want to meet up and touch weenies or something?

Help me out Cred Forums: how in the fuck the argumented people in MD are the hobos? Didnt they need a medicine to keep the rejection in check?

It makes no sense

>He addressed the points you made by pointing out how they dont actually exist in the video in question
not true at all, i pressed him on his strawman he jst dodged the question.

>Because what we're discussing has nothing to do with it being a shitty game or having bad marketing or whatever

you don't really get how everything feeds into the discussion and how Errant comes to his conclusion, anyway whatever this was doesn't goes anywhere. so have a nice day

>whatever this was doesn't goes anywhere. so have a nice day
If you want to bitch out that's fine, I won't bother pointing out your stupidity anymore, but everyone knows you're still here waiting for your (Yous)

That video was pretty amazing.

Visit the Prague ghetto. They have a hard time getting it.

>It makes no sense
It's Deus Ex

No, talk video games
Nobody I know in real life likes to talk game analysis

he had the same problem with DXMD that people had with bioshock infinite

I KNO RITE LMAO

>fight 3 girls
>Tear off 2 girls clothes during fight and just tatter one girls clothes
>Their cutscene models match up appropriately

>When that ludo narrative hits just right

>>>If this game wanted to really be art, they'd give the player a cry button to press when made fun of.

what

The video's title suggested it was just some SJW's call to arms, but it is actually good.

Yeah, the game is all about empowerment, and you get all these racial slurs thrown at you. Only way to respond is also empowered, which is punching them in the face.
He wants the players to cry instead after someone says bad words.

youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

>you create this strawman of "all people"
that was never said.

you keep making up quotes for people

But you can ignore it, this guy is getting as bad as Extra Credits.

Can't spell Extra Credit without Extra Redit

The other guy was right.
He's implying other people are having bad, wrong fun for getting games like Watch Dogs instead of Sunrise, which just comes off as very stuck up.
Him complaining that devs are telling other devs to "Get good" is another thing, that's legitimate advice, a lot of games sell because they aren't good, and if one dev is telling another to improve, that's productive

This reminds me of body positivity, and fat people who think that they shouldn't have to improve. Developers who don't think they need to improve, and get butthurt when they are proverbially told to lose weight

CQC>press Q to cutscene

Name one pacifist utopia autismo.

Switzerland :^)

>the land where pedophiles are allowed to roam free