Please quit doing fantasy themed Souls games, and start doing cyberpunk. You've done fantasy themes for like 4 games now and it's gotten old, we're sick of it. If you do cyberpunk you can get way more creative than you could with fantasy, especially with environments, character customization and designs, and weapons and combat. Think of all the crazy guns and shit you could have!
So please, no more fantasy, just do cyberpunk from now on.
op is right, dark souls is played the fuck out, they need to do some new shit
Nathan Clark
I agree, real sick of this generic ass old castle, bad swamp, evil forest aesthetic.
Oliver Cox
No they need to add some new gameplay mechanics. souls is only acceptable gameplay wise because it is multiplayer focused. You can't do any combos, cancels, or other stuff that enhances your abilities. The closest I can think of is turning with your greatsword swing in Ds1 to make it hit earlier.
Jackson Nguyen
>souls is only acceptable gameplay wise because it is multiplayer focused
What?
Lincoln Ross
>souls is only acceptable gameplay wise because it is multiplayer focused >You can't do any combos, cancels, You might want to actually play the game for an hour or two before you spout any more embarrassing and ignorant bullshit.
Caleb Martin
Souls games have no real combos.
Cameron Campbell
Miyazaki said it's over you fucking retard, only last thing are the dlcs coming out for DS3 but that's it, it's done
Alexander Taylor
He said no more Dark Souls game, doesn't mean he can't make a new Souls like game like Bloodborne and it's gonna happen
Lucas Kelly
He meant specifically the Souls franchise is over, he still plans to make "Souls-like" games.
Jacob Robinson
Good, he can move on to sci fi and cyberpunk now. Sick of that sickdark fantasy shit he kept peddling for years.
William Howard
Oh no, it's that Cyberpunk faggot again.
Kevin Rodriguez
No one is saying that they have combos like a street fighter game where you can do two light attacks and a heavy and throw a fireball out of your nipples. You can, however, chain your basic moves together (which to be fair in PVP is often not extremely useful), or throw in a different move during a sequence of attacks. It's basic, but it's still a combo.
Brody Brown
Actually he said he won't be making them anymore, but if B-team keeps shitting them out he won't stop them
John Reed
>No one is saying that they have combos like a street fighter game where you can do two light attacks and a heavy and throw a fireball
In other words souls games have no real combos, like I said.
Matthew Bennett
Can they shit out some cyberpunk souls games then? No one wants more dark fantasy shit, it's played the fuck out.
Nathan Harris
>tfw no big cyberpunk openworld city game
Jaxson Thompson
I actually agree. I'm not against fantasy in games but for Souls game a change of scenery would be welcomed
Landon Clark
That's my point, he can move on to other settings now and he probably will considering how Bloodborne was
Leo King
>GTA: cyberpunk edition.
Angel Torres
#Rekt
Colton Johnson
A combo not resulting in some flavor of special move at the end does not make it not a combo. I can't really think of a better term for a series of attacks chained together. I can't really imagine SF-like combos adding much to the game, either. I'd much rather they do something like make the weapon arts in 3 not near-universally useless.
Leo Wood
>this faggot again Cyberpunk is garbage. Literally every environment is just "rainy city with neon lights."
Cooper Davis
What? Do you want to play Dark souls: Ultimate ninja storm edition?
Jace Ortiz
fuck your cyberfuck give me armored core back you fucking coons
Lucas Sullivan
Fantasy is garbage. Literally every environment is just "castle in dark forest with torches"
Jace Scott
> triggered
Benjamin Green
He's already said that one of the 3 games From Software is currently working on is a new Armored Core game.
You're late.
Isaac Fisher
Even if DS did combo, you have like 3 attacks and they have a recovery time that spans wider than your mom's asshole. It is not even relevant. DS combat is shit. And I'm saying this after 4.2 souls games. It got boring.
Parker Kelly
From Software here.
OP is a fag.
Kayden Reed
Does it trigger you that e very souls and bloodborne vid I see the environments and characters all look the same? I can't even tell the difference.
>Literally every environment is just "rainy city with neon lights."
That's only because the majority of people who do cyberpunk are creatively bankrupt hacks that just rehash the visuals of the Blade Runner movie completely unaware that that was supposed to be capturing the feel of film noir, not cyberpunk.
Levi Collins
You apparently tried it, so do tell us how the combat worked.
Nathaniel Bennett
So they can fall in line behind Cyber Punk, Deus Ex, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Fallout, Borderlands, Portal, Dead Space, Crysis, Halo, Doom, etc, etc, at being a totally original game set in the future.
Hudson Clark
Holy fuck that game looks badass as fuck! This is what we need more of.
Nolan Baker
>Please quit doing fantasy themed Souls games, and start doing cyberpunk.
How do you know they'd be any good at fucking cyberpunk? Fuck off.
Camden Peterson
All the games you listed are superior to fantasy shit. Fantasy needs to be phased out for sci fi, we've had enough of shit like WoW,
Jack Evans
i wont believe it until i fucking see it and not more fucking dark souls bullshit
Nathaniel Gray
>How do you know they'd be any good at fucking cyberpunk?
Well they aren't any good at fantasy yet that didn't stop them from churning out 4 of those shits.
Joseph Martin
Hey, a GTA set in the future might not be such a bad idea.
Fuck, I think that's what GTA VI is gonna be actually.
Isaac Lewis
A Musou game adjusted for pvp.
Matthew Richardson
That's the only way Cyberpunk should be handled.
Jason Gomez
>WoW's influence is heavy in the industry, and that can be kind of annoying, because that aesthetic is pretty bad imo. But Wow's fantasy looks almost nothing like Dark Souls's fantasy. Jumping onto future-fantasy, isn't going to be more original per se. We already have a lot of it.
Oliver Lopez
>Fuck, I think that's what GTA VI is gonna be actually.
Unlikely. Rockstar is incapable of producing anything themselves, they just recreate what they've seen in movies and TV, and there's not enough future shit for them to rip off to create an entire GTA game.
Adrian Martin
Souls fantasy is just as bad, replace giant retarded pauldrons with fountains of energy spraying out and replace it with generic brown n bloom medieval clothes with boring weapons.
Blake Perry
Holy shit you're a massive retard, I did not even understand what you just wrote.
Aiden Scott
Dunno why I greentexted that. Strange.
Dark Souls grounds things in realism, so when it does present you with absurd imagery, it stands out even moreso than it would in other games.
Luke Perry
>Dark Souls grounds things in realism,
Yeah that must be why they have shit like blood red skies with fucked up moons just because, real grounded in realism
Jose Ortiz
Is this cyberpunk faggit gonna post this thread everyday?
You're as bad as the Ni-Oh spammer.
Juan Wilson
Why must you be so taxing to talk to?
Nathan Bennett
no this guy is actually worse, he contributes to more elaborate shit posting.
Blake Davis
Speak for yourself fucci, I am still waiting for a dark souls sequel or an instance based souls mmo until then sci fi can sugdig
Tyler Richardson
This is why Cyberpunk faggots don't get shit.
Brandon Stewart
Sci Fi is the future. Witcher 3 was the phase fantasy was being phased out, Dark Souls 3 was the deathbed, and WoW Legion was the Doctor finally yanking the plug. Fantasy is DEAD. Cyberpunk is the future. Cyberpunk 2077, Deus Ex Mankind Divided.
Cooper Hughes
Huh? Are you accusing me of being a cyberpunk fag?
Matthew Gray
>Sci Fi is the future legit talk but consider this. Fantasy may be at the deathbed but so is sci fi. None of the games you counted matter as they are all basicly vaporshit while dark souls being actually really unique albeit generic in its locations. Ramp up the locations and you are set be it sci fi or fantasy so the discussion is how we fix creative use of levels locations and the lore instead of scifi will fix all fantasy bad
Grayson Long
Cyberpunk only works as Crime dramas and nobody cares about the story in crime drama games.
Jaxson Richardson
Cyberpunk works well as arena combat games too, it just hasn't been done yet. Imagine a cyberpunk moba.
Jonathan Martin
no.
Charles Murphy
>moba No.
Aaron Stewart
>moba
noooooooooo.....
Hudson Edwards
So then you're calling the person who I told is taxing, a cyberpunk fag?
Brandon Reyes
yes.
Joshua Cox
Who is we? I'm not sick of anything.
I'm just waiting for that one fantasy game that uses pre-hellenic Khorasan/Hindu Kush/Indus Valley as its aesthetical inspiration.
Zachary Cook
The only reason mobas suck is lack of creativity, directly due to them being so fantasy based. They all make you fight in a fucking boring ass forest, and most of the characters are always generic fantasy shit like elves and buff men with swords/axes, and faeries and dragons. Imagine a cyberpunk moba where you fight in fucking badass rainy cities at night, and factories and shit. And the characters are badass robots, cyborgs, aliens, space marines. Cool shit. And the items are cool stuff like laser rifles and energy cores and capacitators, not fucking "mana stone" and "heart of health" or "shield of dontdie".
Carter Hall
OK, I think I get where you were going with that comment now. You're alright with me.
Jace Williams
>B team shitting it out Miyazaki shit out 3, stop praising him for fucking up the 3rd game. please let the DLCs be good
Grayson Miller
>Dark Souls grounds things in realism ???
Eli Bell
>cancels
Fuck off.
Isaac Edwards
>cyberpunk moba
David Ross
That's not fully using the potential of Cyberpunk.
Cyberpunk always involve urbanised shitholes, laced with hightech as well as dubious east asian corporations.
Ryder Jackson
mobas blow ass because you're a fucking CRIPPLE until you farm for gold until you get can your build up and running.
Only then do you feel like every other fucking videogame character at the START of their games.
They intentionally hobble you in order to increase the timesink factor of their game.
Gavin Diaz
????????
My first "no" should've clarified the whole thing.
Camden Murphy
Imagine fighting on a map that's a shithole city, with dark alleyways being the jungle and thugs being the jungle creeps. And each base is an evil corporate headquarters with multiple floors you have to take down.
Alexander Kelly
>mobas blow ass because you're a fucking CRIPPLE until you farm for gold until you get can your build up and running. >Only then do you feel like every other fucking videogame character at the START of their games.
That's an unfair comparison, Megaman, Samus, and Castlevania characters all start out weak as fuck until late game. Megaman has to kill 8 fucking bosses AND collect armor pieces before he can even reach his full potential.
Brayden Young
Yep. Here's your starting class. The game's visuals start off fairly typical, and then grow to become absurd over time. You're a knight, in knights armor, and a standard longsword, fighting other knights in knight's armor, wielding standard longswords. The fantasy elements look more absurd by comparison, because it's like reality is being twisted. Unlike other games, where everything is oversaturated glowing colors, looking like happy meal toys.
Well I was still unsure, because the tone of the post was unclear. It kind of sounded like you were disagreeing with me. I feel like you could have replied to the other cyberpunk fag with that comment. Directed it his way, not mine.
Nathan Wood
No. Cyberpunk works best as GTA game with strong espionage elements.
Jaxon Richardson
>Unlike other games, where everything is oversaturated glowing colors, looking like happy meal toys.
More people prefer WoW's aesthetic to Souls. Legion's sales don't lie.
Jack Brooks
Theres a reason western studios dont just make 5 medieval fantasy games in a row. Bioware did Dragon age, then Mass Effect Bethesda did Skyrim series, then Fallout CDPR did Witcher, then CP77
Talent in the studios get bored of the same thing, and consumers dont like buying same game over and over. Even ubisoft who did medieval focused game scattered modern day bs into it so its not monotomynous.
Matthew Rodriguez
The first thing you see is a prerendered video about gods and dragons fighting in an apocalyptic hell-scape. You can also begin the game as a club-wielding, loincloth wearing shriveled corpse who cannot die. And the game drops a bus-sized demon on you within the first couple minutes of gameplay.
Real life can be quite colorful and pleasant and it often is, with glowing colored lights everywhere.
Jaxon Barnes
Exactly. Asians need to realize people are sick of fantasy, especially mmos makers. FF 14 looks like ass and so do all the korean mmos.
Andrew Roberts
This isn't a popularity contest. My point was just that Dark Souls's style of fantasy is distinctly different than WoW's style. So when the user said "we've had enough of WoW", that doesn't really pertain to games like Dark Souls.
Grayson Evans
>. If you do cyberpunk you can get way more creative
>rainy street >damp slum >rainy skyscrapers >dark alleys
yeah they can burst from creativity
Justin Anderson
WoW has been around for longer and so has accumulated a large fanbase.
Jacob Howard
>Cyberpunk isn't fantasy
???
Nathaniel Lopez
You're limited. Try this in addition to what you listed:
Meanwhile fantasy is just different variations of forests, castles, dungeons, and caves.
Ethan Torres
If they made it, due to its marketing it would be a western script driven cyberpunk game for western gamers, which is generally aesthetically shit.
The reason why its shit is because when it comes to cyberpunk the devs always copy the elements of blade runner, and sadly millennial crap like matrix as well, and intentionally get rid of those Japanese "cultural" aesthetics that originally were a lot in cyberpunk genre. They replace it with another shitty dudebro humors like yakuza bluh bluh and stereotypical asian figures in general.
Eventually it always ends up in another western cliches, dull modern american city based cityscapes and circumstances like CDprojekt one or Deviant Art tier shit art. So then, what if they make Japan based cyberpunk like GITS, snatcher, cybercity oedo and shit, of course NOBODY in the west would buy it except weebs.
Jacob Baker
Cyberpunk is science fiction Mass effect is science fantasy
Aaron Parker
In the prerendered video, they present all the fantastical elements as twisted realities. The dragons look about as real as you can get considering dragons don't actually exist. But they're presented in a way that makes you think that perhaps they could exist. The God is just a big old man with a white beard and rich clothes, backed by a bazillion of knights that wear armor one could conceivable craft, albeit a bit fancy with it's horns.
The witches are just chicks in robes creating flames.
Nito is just a big skeleton covered in other big skeletons. But the skeletons look to be proportioned like humans, they give the sense of proper anatomy, not like anyone is going to count the skeleton's bones or anything, but they appear like real skeletons.
You initial undead visage appears to have realistic anatomy. You can see the muscles and other flesh.
It's all seemingly realistic things, that have been twisted and contorted into this absurd image.
Samuel Thompson
Seen all those locations plenty in video games. In fact, a lot of those locations are in fantasy games. Even science labs.
Lincoln Thomas
>Steel mill, oil ring, factory
Ya real diverse m8
>highway, Japanese temple.
Your commmintment to this shitposting crusade is admirable but it's shit like that where you slip up.
Angel Sanchez
>But they're presented in a way that makes you think that perhaps they could exist. I understand what you mean but the reasoning is stupid. The Undead Asylum is made from plain looking bricks therefore Dark Souls is 'realistic'. That's silly, but whatever. I'm not going to tell you to stop liking things.
Henry Foster
Don't know who this "we" is but I am certainly not sick of it and would very much prefer they don't join the garbage bandwagon of late trying to make futuristic games something cool, which honestly they ain't.
Jack Evans
Mass effect is high scifi, not science fantasy. You wouldn't call Star Trek science fantasy, would you?
Benjamin Gonzalez
nah, thanks, but i'd take one about space
Jayden Jackson
Just make a Dune Souls-style game. It would be exactly the same solid gameplay, but with much more interesting visuals and designs.
Alexander Nguyen
>CP77
Do you mean Cyberpunk 2077? That's not out yet. Besides, Bioware and Bethesda are considered shit these days.
Jose Phillips
Aliens looking like humans in costumes is fantasy. Science fiction tries to ground things in plausible science where aliens have a evolutionary history and "magic" doesnt exist.
Jace Scott
fuck me it's this retard again
Evan Ramirez
agree, dark souls is the best first person shooter i've ever played, the best part is when you kill santa claus in a strip club
Robert Collins
I didn't say Dark Souls is realistic. I said it's grounds things in realism. There's a difference. The very second sentence in the post where I first made the statement, is acknowledging the game's absurd imagery. But just because the game has dragons and gods, doesn't mean that it's of equal distance from reality as other games with dragons and gods.
Landon Peterson
Cyberpunk 2077 user
Gavin Gutierrez
can't wait for Bloodborne 2 with a quarter of the inspiration of the original
Nathan Ramirez
Cyberpunk is more about the feel rather than aesthetics.
Gabriel Cooper
Yeah needs more rainy factory roofs while rich people observe a gritty deathmatch or whatever that thread was
Aaron Morales
>Star Trek science fantasy Catgirls just screams hardcore scifi.
Brandon Sullivan
>aliens looking like humans in costumes is fantasy Okay user
Colton Mitchell
>It's going to have the same engine as the witcher games.
how do you feel about his?
Gabriel Mitchell
cyber ninjas laser swords dude parkour and complicated melee and shooter mechanics dude
Jordan Long
I'm alright with it, it's a good engine. They said they're revamping the tools for 2077 and shit. Blood and Wind already showed improvement over the base game regions.
Xavier Wilson
Something like this. I wouldn't mind them basically throwing a new setting/concept and a few new gameplay gimmicks over what is essentially the same basic game every few years. Until someone starts doing their formula better and outselling them, they'd basically be printing money. And a new setting/gimmick was exactly what bloodborne was and everyone fucking loved it
Isaac Martinez
If you dislike my interpreation it takes at least 5 seconds to google a 2nd more reliable opinion as to what constituted as scifi or science fantasy.
Isaac Hernandez
Alchemy isn't science. Tossing some beakers full of green boiling shit, vials of bat wings, and glowing orbs doesn't make it a science lab.
Even the devs for CoD realized futuristic is cooler.
Bentley Martinez
Warhammer 40k is the greatest sci fi cyberpunk setting of all time.
Andrew Williams
Science is a method. And the setting in which science is exercised, have their own tropes. An alchemy lab is just the same as a science lab. Both are the tropy places where scientists conduct their research.
Do you think that in sci-fi games, the green beakers, and the blue LED lights mean anything?
Carter Reyes
The green beakers are good for the environment and the blue LEDS help your rig run cooler.
Asher Brooks
Alchemy isn't science, it's based in bullshit. People used to think diseases were caused by tiny demons for god's sakes.
Jeremiah Bell
Well in a way aren't viruses caused by tiny demons? And in a fantasy world, couldn't tiny demons potentially exist? Look, the gist of it is that the theme is the same. You can call it Alchemy or science, but they both revolve around the idea of conducting scientific experiments in a lab. Also, half of the stuff in sci-fi settings are bullshit.
Luis Reed
>Gamers Against Fantasy I wasn't aware such sub-humans are able to exist under Holy Terra's atmospheric conditions
Colton Brown
>Also, half of the stuff in sci-fi settings are bullshit.
It's still based on plausible science. Some dude in an "alchemy lab" tossing a bat wing and eye of newt into a breaker of green liquid to create a healing potion is retarded and makes no logical sense. That would be more like if a sci fi setting had some "scientist" throw a gear, an LED, and a motherboard into a box and a fucking nuclear bomb appeared as the result.
Kayden Nelson
I'm pretty sure that from their 3 upsoming games that one is a spiritual successor to Dark Souls like Dark Souls was to Demon's Souls and King's Field before it but that it'll actually use new gameplay mechanics rather than basing it on the Demon's Souls template again. Then there's a reboot of an old IP and a brand new IP that Miyazaki says is weird even by From standards. One of them has VR support and will release next year as well.
Dylan Gray
No, it's more like when someone types nonsense on a computer screen, runs the protocol through the matrix, and then eureka! They figured out how to put a stop the magnetic interference that's blocking the communication with the satellite.
Nathaniel Ward
>it'll actually use new gameplay mechanics rather than basing it on the Demon's Souls template again.
I hope so, they need to use platinum games style combat
James Rodriguez
>you've done mecha for like 12 games now
They made Armored Core before the Souls games, user. And there are way more of them.
Brandon Young
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Jaxon Williams
yeah from soft really needs to try their hand at the mech genre
Nicholas Stewart
Not this dude again.
Brody Sanders
Beats generic dark evil castle in bad vile forest.
Jonathan Martinez
Why not both at the same time? Miyazaki wants to do it.
>Much of the interview, in fact, revolves around what sort of From projects Miyazaki might like to work on besides Dark Souls -- a new Metal Wolf Chaos game, for example, or some sort of new mech game mixing the design sensibilities of From's Dark Souls and Armored Core games.
>"You know, we actually released a Dreamcast game pretty similar to that concept, named Frame Gride," Miyazaki told Vice. "It's a mix of fantasy and mecha genres, both of which I love working on. I'd love to work on a game that evokes the same themes as anime series like Aura Battler Dunbine and The Vision of Escaflowne, but it would be incredibly difficult to do so. I want to work on a game like that, but other people at From Software would think that would be an impossible idea."
Jace Diaz
Sounds awful. Escaflowne was stupid as fuck.
James Butler
I would be okay with this, but only if it uses either a horror, or Lovecraft inspired horror style like Bloodborne as the premise.
Jason Torres
but those are the best kinds of evil castles
Jason Long
No, it needs to be sci fi, no fantasy show.
Skyscrapers in cyberpunk cities>>>>>>castles
Joseph Harris
Just stop souls.
Kevin Stewart
Holy shit. Maximum shitposting.
Eli Campbell
Dear op.
Fuck you. Steam punk is for fucking neckbeards.
Matthew Hall
No, no one prefers fighting robots over demon
You can go fuck yourself, OP.
Sincerely, user
Easton Allen
>Cyberpunk 2077
Lucas Turner
>No, it needs to be sci fi, no fantasy show.
Horror isn't fantasy exclusive.
Aaron Brooks
I've been saying the next gta should be in space. Plasma rifles, space stations, starships... Would be mayhem.
Gabriel Edwards
>Lack of creativity.
user Lol league has the "magic and technology mixed" aesthetic down pat. Pic related is a "brought back to life" cyborg useing necromancy and technology. And dawngate WAS original at least untill EA fucked them up the ass.
Jason Fisher
GTA always has criminal protags. Why the hell would they be on a Space station/Starship?
Jack Russell
Cause its the future. Space criminals. Stealing valuable resources or some strange artifact. You're always some guy that falls back into a life of crime. It's really not that tough. Just gotta figure out how the mechanics for jacking a starship in space would work. I imagine a world similar to cowboy bebop.
Justin Morales
Dark souls in a gigantic space station dead space style would be great
Liam Smith
Fuck you op i want dark soul 4 with extra meme
Josiah Rivera
>In other words souls games have no real combos
And why do you want 'true' combos in the first place. May as well have one player breakdance while the other sits and watches.
Christian Foster
I expect that Space piracy would be part of the side quests.
Dominic Rodriguez
What if 'magic' does exist though? Why should it matter genre wise though? Nobody knows how a dilithium hyper-drive would work.
Connor Morgan
this one looks interesting gameplay wise but i really don't like the artstyle. One of the best selling points of the souls series (and bloodborne) is the amazing and weird artstyle and monster design. This looks too bland and generic, i would have preferred something more like Blame! for a futuristic setting
Colton Long
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Landon Allen
surge looks ok. I feel like something is missing though
Adam Russell
>90 thousand future sci-fi shit games everywhere >RTS and 4x have been consumed by future space bullshit >Shooters are all future aliens shit >Not even dark souls, the only single fucking game where you can fight using a god damn pike is free from futuristic annoyance
Go play literally anything else, leave souls as it is